First Porsche Macan EV Highway Range Test! Goes Farther Than Taycan
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Kyle and Dr. Robert Meier who is responsible for the Macan complete vehicle jump inside a prototype long range version of the vehicle for as close to a 70-mph highway range test as we can recreate in California! Join us..,
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The best part of this video is having someone in the passenger seat who actually knows the answers to all of Kyle‘s questions.
I had the pleasure of working with Robert on the @frauscherboats electric boat project and he is just awesome. Top guy.
Kyle's driving companion often looked bored sitting there with his arms crossed.
Exactly!
10000%!!
@@MF-et5nkhe had sweaty armpits
I am surprised Porsche agreed to this with pre-production units.
Yeah, pretty cool! Can’t wait to run a series production unit on our test loop to log a comparable number for our usual testing
Porsche knew the range would be exceptional……but I’d be more interested in how it does being driven as a Porsche should/would😎
I think they know this car will be great effeciency wise and want to get the word out.
@@ruftime The 1% life of Porsches around the world. How are the lucky ones driven? :-D
They allowed it Because it’s pretty much a finished product, it’s the end of development and they know exactly how to build a EV by now.. technically it’s pre pro but it’s probably 98% complete
325 miles or 523 km real world - impressive! Great new PPE platform together with Audi.
Real world is the constant - don't touch - 70 mph speed?
@@saasiswhite yeah it is since you can compare to the other cars - same test
322 miles for higher elevation. Edmunds did the same test at lower elevation and got 305 miles.
Thank you, Kyle, and thank you Porsche for making this possible. This may be the first Porsche I can consider owning, at least once my Mach-E goes back in mid-2026.
How have you liked the Mach-E?
Bless the brands that offer both an instrument cluster and a HUD. It's such a small cost, but helps the driving experience so much.
Amen
Tsport has a couple small instrument screens that are easy to install.
@@chrisroberts3963 Should I forgive brands that make me pay full price for a featureless car? Because prosthetics are on sale thanks to their disdain of customers and at times safety? Let's put the rear view screen somewhere down low in a car that wins every argument...
This car won't be cheap
@@tabletsardar9366 Good luck getting a cheap Cybertruck. No instrument cluster, no HUD, no gear stalk, no turning stalk.
It does have a normal horn, which is odd because it's already loud doing nothing.
322 miles actual range for a SUV on the highway is great!
Around 3.2 miles per kWh doing 70 is indeed great 😃
And porsche doesn't lie about thier range estimates like tesla
@@G82Watts Tesla doesn't "lie". They are perfectly within their rights to report exactly what the EPA test results allow them to report. The problem is that the EPA test is entirely unrepresentative of real-world highway driving. The test *desperately* needs to be updated, as I don't believe it's been changed at all for several decades, and cars can and will drive much faster than the EPA tests for.
@@coredumperror well tesla has an on going law suit about lying about the range estimates of their cars. They lie about 0-60 times by using rollout. They use minimalistic design as an excuse to cut corners and lower manufacturing cost and drive their profit margins up. Whole lot of lying and justifying why they do what they do
@@G82Watts Reported for misinformation.
This thing wins the mid-size crossover SUV road tripping wars. Impressive 300+ miles at 70mph and that monster charge curve that adds probably 140-150 miles in 15 minutes.
In California..
If you can get EA station to work
@@chrisak49 explain why Porsche wouldn’t just use Tesla Superchargers?
@@anthonyc8499 Because Porsche Macan EV uses CCS plug while Tesla Superchargers have NACS plugs. Even if you use an adapter, you won't get even 1/3 the charging speed. Hyundai/Kia eGMP cars are only getting 50kwh speeds at Superchargers.
That's because of their voltage. Newer superchargers should be able to accommodate high voltage charging. @@chrisak49
Hi Kyle,
The technical engineering term that you would use for "heat scavenging" is HEAT RECOVERY. Especially when it comes to HVAC equipment such as heat pumps. Not trying to be hypercritical in a demeaning way. Just educating for future reference as you appreciate such an extensive attention to detail in your analytical reviews of EV's.
My dude, next level getting a development car, and a range test, and a Porsche! ahhhh 🤯
wonder the price..
Too much.
Did you see that wink at the turn around from the engineer when Kyle said it should get more than 300 miles?
Must be so amazing to have an engineer right next to you to answer your questions. I have a deep respect for engineers since they are pushing forward the boundaries of whats possible and as a car enthusiast I feel like Porsche engineers are among the world's best. Great video!
Porsche is insanely good at iterative design (unlike ahem a certain company). Their first products are always just okay and then second versions are killer.
I like his response when asking about heat recovery. “Every Joule…”. I would love to get one of these in the future based on what we’ve seen so far.
So 322.5 miles at 289 Wh/miles means it consumed 93.2 kWh, which is probably very close to the net useable battery capacity.
Porsche said that it uses 95% of the 100 so yeha around that
Gotta add a bit for ancillaries.
Wow,impressive numbers ,as expected,Porsche isn't messing around ,well done. Great video Kyle
I’ve been looking into getting a Porsche and I like electric vehicles. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I might want to get one of these. Never saw myself as a CUV driver but this could be the best of both worlds, usability and fun to drive..
I have a '22 Model 3 LR that's a great daily driver, and I've done 2 3400 mile road trips in it. I'm spoiled by the efficiency of my car on the highway, averaging 18 minutes per charge (that avg includes some 30 minute charges while eating lunch or dinner). But, once the other manufacturers install J3400 ports, I'm currently most interested in the Macan, iX mDrive 50, and EQE or EQS SUV's.
Stay away from European electric cars is my advice 👍
Just traded my model 3 performance in for this got tired of the minimalistic dull interior and this looks far more sleek and aggresive. Someone said my m3p looked like an egg and that hit me hard 💀 the fit ans finish is something u will notice right away. Just touching the steering wheel and dash u can tell its high quality. The sound isolation is miles better then teslas. Also having a HUD that shows u everything u need in ur windshield is amazing. It also has self driving for highways that even more smooth of an experience then teslas. No random jolts and the steering wheel doesn't go left right left right.
@@G82Watts Good story bro 🙈😂
@@G82Watts You're not fooling anyone troll, this isn't even for sale yet.
@@rj8u if ur broke yes👍
More than the range (which is a function of battery size), this is the efficiency that I find impressive: 289 Wh/mile is really good, especially for a big SUV. The Macan has more utility and a lower price than Taycan, higher quality and stronger brand than Audi, and especially with NCAS charging, it might become a best-seller in the upper range of the EV market - even perhaps as a more compact and more efficient alternative to Rivian.
Big SUV? 🤔. It’s a compact SUV at most. Definitely smaller inside than a CR-V or RAV4.
Will it have NACS, tho? The one Kyle drove has a CCS1 port. Though admittedly, no one has said they'll be putting NACS ports on their US EVs until next year, so that's probably why.
Until you find owners with software issues like every other VW, Audi, and Porsche EV before the Macan.
@@chrisak49dude. Give it a rest. Just dump your Tesla stocks and live happily.
There are many of us who prefer other brands over Tesla products (or can't stand their CEO so would never consider purchasing their product). Yes their cars are "decent" and yes they have the super charger network, but the Koreans and Germans are coming on crazy strong with their EV offerings. In fact in almost every measurable metric, they are now ahead of Tesla technology wise.
Tesla was first: credit where credit is due. But now, there are many excellent options, all of which continue to get better and better...
This is the first time I hear someone calling the Macan a “Big SUV”, must be from Europe or something.
322 miles on a highway with a Cross over suv. Good 👍
These reviews are effing brilliant. Kyle is on my wavelength.
welp, adding the macan to my 2025 shortlist now.
Vielen Dank Dr. Robert, hoffentlich bekommt Kyle noch mehrere Gelegenheiten für solch eine Zusammenarbeit. "Nicht schlecht!"
This is going to be a fantastic EV when it hits the market.
Great video. Kudos to Porsche for letting this happen, and they chose their YT partner very wisely!
Let me cry. My future new car looks amazing!
They need to make a Kyle Conner version of this vehicle. This is just about the perfect vehicle for him.
Good range, great charging! Will be a fantastic machine in the real world.
Can't way to get comparison video of Macan and 5N!
This will sell as hot cakes in the Nordics!
Over 320 miles at an average of 60 miles per hour is not bad!😉 Maybe we will see 200 miles here in Norway at a temperature at -15 to -20 degrees (5 to -4 F)🥶👍🏻
As a person living in Finland I am also interested in hearing about how it does in cold weather. In Helsinki we have had plenty of those -15 -20c temperatures.
Wait for the Bjørn Nyland Review for that
Most cars on European inter city, autobahns etc roads do speeds far in excess of the 60MPH so you’ll be lucky to get 140 miles before the stopping to charge
Funny that that Edmunds couldn't discuss the trim levels in their video. Presumably they had the Turbo on the same day you had the 4.
5 hour drive without a bathroom break is crazy!
He uses a piss Bottle
So thankful I have a 2024 Macan GTS ICE coming this spring.
Props to Kyle, you're running an awesome channel.
You lucky duck 😎 Looking forward to all the sweet Macan content you got coming. Hopefully a mountain blast as well... Full send.
Great video also, and impressive range. Thumbs up 👍
Depending on the price Porsche could sell lots of those in the US, even if they need an adapter for using J3400 chargers.
My 282 estimate was way low... Color me impressed! 😮
Kile is smiling like a kind in toy store. The engineer is frowning half the time like the toy store owner when there's an unguarded kid inside it :-D
That's the perfect analogy.
Great, informative video. I learned much about the Porsche Macan from you. Unfortunately, your passenger, at times, looks as if he drew the short straw… 😂
Makes me want to save all my money to get one. Well played Porsche!
Impressive gum retention skills.
Please ask for an update on the 718 or whatever it will be called Boxster / Cayman EV. That’s what I’m really interested in. There are so many small to medium sized cross overs but no real EV sports cars.
Its already getting tested here in Germany (Charge Port is in the back by the way)
@@Knnnkncht interesting. I have seen spy videos from Sweden and I have seen a lot of speculation and guessing but there’s not much specific information that I have been able to find.
322.5 with 1% left
A bit silly to post the results without conditions - really leaves people with the wrong impression of the test
@@KyleConner know you want people to watch the full 33 mins but it was 66-72 degrees roughly vh2.9s per kwh for efficiency. Didn't see anything notable to report about as far as conditions.
Porsche and Cybertruck videos are a great way to cross that big 200k subscribers mark!
Great range, I see Porsche really nailed it. Funny Kyle calling the front tires pizza cutters at 235mm. The Mach-E base comes with 225mm tires square. 😊 And the Macan has 285mm in the rear for their “most aerodynamic model” 😅 very Porsche.
They are pizza cutter tires in the front, MachE was also called out for that.
I hate teslabjørn calling taycan's 19" wheels skinny when they are actually 285 in the back 😇
the king of ev related stuff on youtube!
Thank you for this impressive video.
I love that they seem to show the battery temperature.
Now I'm looking forward to the new Audi A6 e-tron.
Great range...huge battery to do that too. Which isn't a bad thing for those who like to go a bit longer before stopping. Will be interesting to see how the charging curve will be with that battery size.
Charges 40.6 kWh in 10 min for an average of nearly 244 kW. 274 kW at 27 % peak so far.
@@abraxastulammo9940 Where are you seeing that?
@@coredumperror Car Maniac video "Porsche Macan-e: Lädt so schnell wie LUCID, verbraucht wie TESLA"
@@abraxastulammo9940 Thanks for the source! Wish I spoke German, haha.
@@coredumperror No problem, I only looked at the charging screen 😅
he was so careful with his words not to give driving impressions, Kyle is a true professional!
Of course the Prosche employee wears a Jack Wolfskin jacket :)
I just heard this car existed 3 minutes ago. Thanks for the review!
Solid efficiency!
322.5 mile with a real door handle. It’s possible!
This video I have waited a long time for! Popcorn time
Its insane how much better this looks then a model X and Y. Even in a camo wrap and with those weird rims. This looks amazing. I love the headlights and rear lights and overall body deisgn. Plus it actually has LUXURY unlike the mini van X and model egg Y
Teslas are the minimalist one egg and one slice of tomato breakfast while the luxury Germans provide a full meal with bratwurst, waffles, and everything else for about the same price.
Let’s see price performance. Nothing comes close to S&X for big power and reasonable price.
@@smartelectriccar u people make 0 sense. U act like straight line performance is the only thing that matters. Lmfao. U get better driving dynamics. Better chassie. Actual luxury. Better looking actual head turning car with road presence. The fit and finish of a porsche is night and day..u can just touch the steering wheel or dash and feel the quality difference. Nothing about a tesla feels like ur in something special or expensive. Hell u don't even get a HUD or gauge clusters. U have to look down and to ur right just to see anything while other cars have it all integrated into the windshield. 😂 If straight line performance only mattered all the rich people would of had dodge demons back in the day.
Impressive range, this might be my top contender for my next daily driver. I hope it will be available without a sun roof, I hate sun roofs and glass roofs. At least it has cover so I could live with it. Even in April in the southwest I am baking in the sun with my Targa off.
2:18 - it's wrapped in gloss black but underneath appears to be the classic Porsche color GAURDS RED. 😎
It looks like it could be Papaya
This opportunity is taking place all over the globe with the press and social media influencers - not just Out of Spec
I love the content, but I would lose the chewing gum 🤣. Also, you had the head of the Macan project from Porsche but did not ask many questions. It seems like a wasted opportunity.
Very neat early access but can we please stop caring so much about range!? It's a PORSCHE! When you go buy a 911 or a 718 you don't ponder about its mpg! As long as it is "enough" the major focus of a Porsche test drive should always be how it feels to drive it!
@9:51 "why do you have the button when we have the latch" I don't get this question, the button locks the charger, the latch doesn't lock the charger it just secures it in place (if it wasn't locked anyone could just press the latch and pull it out). I could understand asking why use a button why not just have it tied to the cars lock/unlock, but having the car able to lock the charger in place is a separate function from having a latch on the charger.
Very impressive range. Thanks.
OOS Mom’s Model Y had better watch it’s back!
I’m sold………. bye Tesla 😊
Was at 60mph ave
At this point, anything less than 300 miles is completely unacceptable. Especially at this price point
Under 300 Wh/mile is impressive
Not having gum play around your mouth when you have the camera on your face would be awesome next time. Awesome review though! I have a Macan S and a Tesla M3. Love them
Yeah, exactly. Had to show it to my wife because she didn’t believe me when I told her about the gum.
@@mofomatIs this some flashmob internet campaign from the tesla forums where everyone comes to complain about the gum for some lulz? 😅
LOL at Robert's face as the video goes on. He's a good sport but obviously this is not the way he'd prefer to spend his day.
Awesome I wished they kept the clamshell hood like on the original Macan
Impressive estimated range. Looking forward to it's actual range test in Colorado 🤗💚
Thanks Kyle. That’s seriously impressive range. I am looking forward to the Q6 range performance. Will we see an improvement?
Wow. In terms of the UK that would easily get you from Nelson's column in London to Grey's Monument in Newcastle-upon-Tyne without a stop. It's hard to argue for more than that really. Most people doing that sort of drive would want to stop for at least a 10-15 break.
I see both the relevance and the irrelevance of both places.
Note: I enjoy your work and would like to suggest leaving the gum for off camera. I’m sure it was an oversight. Otherwise great video.
Finally!! Look at those wheels! Love them. Finally a manufacturer truly to committed to maximizing range. Small wheels with minimal cuts in them.
Versus say Rivian. I love Rivian and own one but they should’ve come out with a more aerodynamic 20 inch wheel versus the 21.
Are they production though? I would be surprised
@@0-Will-0 I hope so. I find it ironic how manufacturers talk about how they want to make efficient vehicles yet they sell giant wheels on even base trims. Why not offer an efficiency package on every vehicle and trim? Which includes smallest wheel and tire package.
Agreed.
Very interesting video and great mileage. Looking forward to hearing more about the car as it’s on my list. One request - please don’t talk to us with gum in your mouth, it looks revolting!
Feinstaubplakette 👌
German car with us specs in Murica
Now I’m even more interested to see the Cayman EV. So tired of every EV being a fugly cuv. Though, Macan looks better than most cuvs.
Price starts from 80k?
Congrats to Porsche for engineering the new Macan for great battery range. If priced competitively it will do well in America.
I see 100k for loaded base, 120k loaded S and 140+ for turbo
The 🐐 is back at it again. LFG!
Fantastic looking car, great EV product from Porsche. Impressive they are letting Kyle run it for 5 hours!
I know getting onto the 10 from Haven when I see it! Much love from the IE!
I’ve charged at that EVGo in Rialto before 😭
Lose the gum
This really is what I would expect minimum from a 100kwh battery.
I find all batteries around that do 300miles minimum.
Spit out your gum Kyle
Thanks, Kyle. Have you asked Robert why Porsche didn’t keep the clamshell hood? One of my favorite features on the combustion engine model.
Should have done this test on a Sunday at 2am. No traffic to worry about then. However, I like this test because it’s more real-world to hit traffic. That range is great…
Born and raised in the Inland Empire. I would have advised not stopping in Colton.
So the Edmunds guy was in the "top spec" car in front :)
Hello Kyle. While it's great that the Macan went 300 miles, I'm not so sure about the efficiency. If my calculations are correct, based on the ~29 kw/h per 100 km indicated on the car's display, this equates to about 2.13 miles per kilowatt hour. In similar use a Tesla Y LRDM car would travel almost 4 miles per kw/h. The implication is that this car achieves 300+ miles not because it's efficient, but because it has a large battery. Have you reached a different conclusion?
Can we europeans please have the metrics also. That would be awsome 💚🚙
Kann man nicht mal den Kaugummi rausmachten. Also manche Leute …
I'm disappointed to hear that American-sold Macan BEVs will get air suspension and glass roof standard; I don't need/want either, and that is just going to jack up the MSRP needlessly...
I hope the suspension gets a bounce mode like mercedes 😅
Wow that is really impressive!!
Yes, I watched the Edmunds Cars channel video on their range test yesterday.
That tire is the same one that came on my 11/23 Model Y.
What a masterpiece! Can't wait to buy it. When is it coming out in the US, Kyle? Thank you.
I'm glad they have a Dr. in charge of the Macan at Porsche. It will be safer that way.
lose the gum
Nice range, I’m finally getting ready to get into the ev world 😂