Orbea Rise MX Mullet Bike - The 160/160 Travel Swiss Army do it all bike??
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- My Initial Impressions after 5 Rides on the Rise and I am throughly impressed. Orbea should have made the bike this way to start with. Geo feels absolutely spot on. Aggressive, Plush, planted, but yet playful, lively, and fun. Not sure I can think of a better all rounder Ebike right now.
Sick build... unlike me, you sure knows what you are doing, I’m also in Irvine and ride the same trail as you, but you are much better rider, I hope I can see you on trail sometime, that bike is not hard to spot ... Good review, keep up the good work!
Right on! This is awesome. I've been on a Rise for the past month. I love it. My local trails are pretty gnarly (North Shore) and I would love to go slacker with mullet and some extra travel. Might be a good winter project. Looking forward to your full bike check and hearing more details about it.
~One word of caution for Rise owners.... the e*Thirteen carbon cranks that come stock with some of them have a known issue with the spindle screw caps coming loose. One of mine fell off on a down hill run and my entire crank fell off 20m into the following climb. e*Thirteen sent me a couple replacement screws (with lock tight) a week later. So if you have those cranks, check the spindle screw caps (or better yet, take them off and apply some lock tight).~
Are you located in Vancouver, (north shore). Been considering a Rise with longer fork and possibly longer stroke shock.
@@Coastal-rsidedown Yep, I live in North Vancouver. You can see me on my Rise on CBC and some other North Shore & Squamish trails on my channel "I Do Blues". I'm likely swapping my 140mm Fox 34 with my brother for a 150mm Fox 36 next month. That then gives me the option to further burley it up to a 160mm fork (w a 160mm shock & mullet setup) if I feel like I need it.
Great Vid, The Rise was my First Choice, Had I known you could fit a 216mm shock on it, I may have waited.....I ended up with a Trek Rail 7 long stroke to get 169mm rear travel, Fox 38 170 up front.
Man this is my dream bike
awesome job with the build. the stock m10 build is awesome except for the recon tire. definitely gonna try your setup
Dissector rear at a minimum!! If you put a 29x2.6 DHF or Assegai up front, it slackens the stock 29er to 65.0 degrees. I have tried this
@@mtbmike9866first thing I did was put a 2.5 assegai up front and dissector in the rear. I think I'm gonna run the float x2 out back I don't mind the air shock. The way you have your setup it's probably close to a 64degree head angle, looking proper. Loving this bike, now all I need to figure out is how to keep the cranks on lol.
Great video Mike 👍😉
Cheer matey ,,, great review .... we have the same bike and im coming off a mullet levo .... will stick with the 29er for a bit longer but may switch ...
I’m hoping they start releasing a model similar to this since I’ve seen them grow I. Popularity! I converted my 2022 Santa Cruz Bronson to a 170 rear using cascade components link. Switched to the DHX2 is amazing!
Nice video, so Orbea knows what they can change for next season. Did you only changed the rear shock and go additional changes are needed to do so (besides the offset bushing)? Looks sick!
I named the bike the Rise MX. I used an offset bushing because the 35mm wheel I used raised the back end a bit. It can be run just fine without an offset bushing
Great video greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Very interesting, the only reason i went with the levo over the Rise was because I was afraid of the 150/140 suspension being to little coming from a 160/160 analog bike. Maybe I should reconsider the Rise since I rarely ride more than 1½ hours and don't need a beefy battery. But loves those jump lines.
Never ridden a Levo. I can only compare it to a Decoy. The rear end of the Rise feels identical to my Decoy in terms of small bump sensitivity and mid stroke. The rear travel is actually 162mm compared to the Decoy at 165. Oddly, It feels better than the Decoy on hard bottomout compressions (cases) but I attribute that to the DHX2’s massive bottomout bumper that ramps up very nicely compared to the DVO Jades’s bumper which is small and soft and feels like you’re hitting a wall.
The Rise is way way more playful but still very capable downhill and my times are actually faster on the Rise than the Decoy. The Decoy however feels more stable at very high speed straighter trails due to the longer wheelbase, weight, and the 180mm coil fork I had on it.
1.5hrs is perfect for the Rise. I normally do about 2700-2800’ an hour (full boost, full 85Nm 🤫). A full battery in 85Nm Mode will get about 3500-3700’.
Did you consider the Fox X2 over the coil? For even more playfulness?
@@arohdepetersen I wanted to try the X2 but concerned the air can would hit the main triangle at full compression. There is clearance for an X2 on a Large/XL frame but could not confirm clearance on a Medium frame
What length shock did you put on to make it 160mm
210x55 is stock.
What’s the new coil shock eye to eye?
I just ordered mine and have a 160mm fork to put on. But wanting to do the same for the shock
Really been wanting a new H series Rise and was hoping to make it a 160/150 bike. 160/160 is even better. I was leaning more toward an enduro bike, but I really like the lightweight e bike thing so if I can get close to enduro numbers with a Rise that’s probably what I’ll do
Hi, greetings from the UK. V nice bike, impressed 👌I see you have been swamped by Rise owners with comments and Qs so I apologies in advance for one more set of Qs. So, I've ordered a 2022 H15 and plan to change spec so here goes and hope you get back (it is Christmas after all 😉). Frame size is XL. Plan to leave the rear 29 and stick a 216x63 shock: OK for full compression clearance?. I also plan on fitting offset bushings and/or a 'Works Components' angled headset to slacken the HA. I also plan on going 170 up front. Its the shock Q which is key so I appreciate your experienced reply. Merry Christmas and have a top New Year from me over here in the grey and murky UK 👍😫😐
Merry Christmas!!! Yes that shock clears no problem. Your plan is a solid plan. I’m curious to see how you get on with the angled headset. One of the biggest issue with the angled headset is it adds 10-15mm of stack underneath the head tube which is not ideal. Might as well up the fork to a 170 Zeb if you go that route which has a very tall Axle to crown. 38 is not as tall as a Zeb but taller than a 36. Anyways, good luck and have fun with the Rise!!!
@@mtbmike9866 Hi Mike, you sir, are a good man! 👌New bike should be here end of Feb early March. Using a WC angled HS on my M10 Wild FS bringing it to 64 and it rides V nice . Looking forward to the lightweight arriving and yes, I'm keeping the full-fat for multi-day big mileage adventures 👌 Keep an eye on my channel for when the Rise arrives . Thanks again from me 👍
Yes, please do a detailed bike check..
I will very shortly. I will call the Video “Pimp my Rise”
looks SO much better than the latest incarnation with the tape and the ugly stem (and with that smaller wheel it just looks wrong)
Both are mullets and does take getting used to. I used to HATE the look but now I’m slightly more accepting of it.
Yea I’m not digging the stem. Mabe I’ll get an I9 silver color stem. Regarding the wrap, I’m a fan. Hides/Blends the motor
@@mtbmike9866 i guess you didn't ask for a custom paint job ? you could have had the same result, i ordered mine in raw carbon, no paint, no stickers, 8 months of waiting :D did you have another e-bike before the Rise ? if yes, how does it compare ? (i have a Levo now, i want a less powerful bike)
@@pizzagorgonzola4699I had a Decoy. It was more stable going very fast downhill. But the Rise is much better everywhere else.
MYO program takes too long. Was concerned I may not like the bike or the battery may not be good enough. I don’t want to wait 8 months because Orbea always has delays. Plan for 10-12 months
@@mtbmike9866 i guess it will be quicker if i learn to paint bikes, and try to get hired by Orbea
I'd love to see the new geo on this bike. I have a stock MTeam with Assegai. Love it as a trail bike but would love to see more it slacker. Wonder how your Mullet Rise turned out.
seems like an awesome build!! May I ask how much you spent and if it is possible to get a precise list what you changed? Or is that secret? :)
You can sell parts you take off to offset the cost of the replacement parts.
All you need is
27.5” wheel, 27.5” tire, 216x63 (8.5x2.5) shock, 160mm air spring
@@mtbmike9866 awesome, thanks! And what about the front? Is the geo-change with the additional 10mm on the fork just fine?
@@mtbmike9866 Nice work, I would like to do the same on mine, can we meet for a coffee?
Hey Mike - love this video and your follow up one too. It's been really informative as I beef up my new Rise H30. Question - where did you source the offset shock bushing?
www.offsetbushings.com/products/offset-bushings-orbea-rise
Great video, my Rise M20 will arrive later this month. Have a Öhlins rfx 36 fork and some magura mt5 Fabio Wibmer edition brakes waiting for it. That coil you have in the back looks dope, what brand is it?
Those in the background are Cane Creek Progressive Springs. They work very well to give the bike a more playful character!!
Great video. I just got my first ebike the Giant Reign E+0 PRO but it’s 55 lbs .You owned YT decoy before right? What’s the main difference, pros and cons of having a lighter ebike ? Loving my Giant reign but also looking at the Orbea rise too. Tempted to sell my analog bike and get the Orbea rise or maybe sell the Giant reign later this year? Thanks!
How much lower was the bottom bracket from 29 to 27.5 rear and did this make jumping off lips easier?
What bottom out clearance are you getting with the long shock? I guess with 27.5 wheel there should be plenty. Can you still fit 29 in the back?
Plenty with a 27.5 rear end. However with a Small frame with the saddle fully slammed it could be close.
Works with full 29er but BB is a bit high and HT steepened. Others have added 2 offset bushings which helps if you run full 29er
Hi mtb mike, I have a large and plan to keep 29er. Plan on 216x63 with. 500-550lsrindex coil. 170mm fork. Do I still need offset bushings for it to work or is the offset bushings more for geometry
My Rise due this week! looking fwd to your detailed bike check. I have a YT Decoy but am wondering if I should sell it and set up the Rise to be the one bike to ride it all. How do you find it vs. the Decoy? I find the Decoy a bit muted until you hit chunkier or more DH terrain, then it really comes alive.
Mike that again a great video! this bike can be ride on 29/27.5 ? cheers
Tried to fit the float x2 today, not possible because the can hits the frame, it is way larger than both dhx2 and dpx2, if that can save time to anyone...
That sucks, I heard it works on L and XL frames but Mabe not on small and medium
@@mtbmike9866 My frame is size L, I think the top tube hole is in the same place, so even if the frame is bigger, the shock mounts right, but the can will hit the top tube at 2/3 of the stroke. Hopefully i didn't run it without checking by releasing the air slowly, otherwise that would have been so costfull.
Did you thought about trying a progressive spring ? Has the linear suspension been an issue for you ? Also have you tried the 85nm with stunlocker ?
I am afraid that i am going to run a higher value then desired for the right support (475lbs instead of maybe 450), and loose some ability to pop out , and loose comfort on rocky rooty terrain, but i so often ride with different weight, from just clothes, to protections+waterbag+battery pack, that makes up to 6kg difference, from 89 to 95kg easily, and often up to 2kg more on a sunday because of cheat day. I also do a lot of mixed terrain with a lot of small technical climbs and can't go the way to switch open/firm all the time, so going to soft doesn't seems right.
I don't know if i am mistaken in my approach, i know that i kind of want best of both worlds, that's why i think progressive could be the right way for me, i have even hesitated to go again with dpx2, but that 140mm felt so harsh at first, i still want to give a try to the coil, i just find the orange colour to be atrocious with the blue rise, that makes two good reasons to go straight to an other spring.
From what i have read mrp springs are huge and that could be same trouble as float x2, but crane creek could be an option, all you need apparently is 2 adapters.
I would really like to hear much feed back from the coil users on the rise about that.
@@elpachato I’ve seen photos of a Large frame and an X2 mounted as well as an XL frame. Mabe there are some tolerances to the frame?
If you look at the leverage curve, the Rise is pretty progressive. The Pinkbike article shows the leverage curve. It is definitely not Linear.
Progressive spring depends on the shock used. The DHX2 has a very large bumper that ramps up very smoothly on hard compressions. If you are running a different shock and smaller bottomout bumper, perhaps a progressive spring is required. I know the DVO shocks have a very soft foam so bottoming out will be like hitting a wall. Ohlins and Fox have larger bumpers. I am 150lbs naked or up to 160lbs geared up and find a 400lb to be adequate for my riding style. I feel the back end is plenty playful and poppy without the progressive spring so although I have a 400-488lb spring, I have no desire to use it.
@@elpachato oh and Yes, STL is installed..... 🤫
MTB MIKE I can’t see how the x2 could work, I didn’t have the time to take a picture since I was to worried about the potential damage that was close to happen. I have not had the opportunity to compare different sizes side by side, maybe the xl has the top tube coming up at a higher angle to allow the x2 to use its travel, but the L does not.
I have the dhx2 but haven’t really used it yet, because mine was delivered with a bright bumper which I found to be so ugly and surely prone to get dirty. I will now try to get one with the regular black one. Also the eye to eye exceeds the frame capacity by half a mm, so i will wait for the offset bushings to arrive before mounting it again, as I don’t like the linkage to be forced backwards by the shock. Maybe that is not so serious, but I rather not go this way since it gets the geometry back to the trail configuration angles which is a little too much lean to the front, and the bb is a little too high too.
I don’t want to go in the mullet way, but I see how that can maybe help with the feeling of the coil working nice with a heavier spring as it gets your weight more on the back. I guess it must feels like the 140 rear/160 front in all 29er, but the front feels very slack that way, which I feel more demanding for the arms.
Maybe I will try the 475 when I get the bushings, opening the compression could be key to soften it, that could work, just not liking this colour at all.. and way more expensive than adding spacers to an air shock !
Great build, can’t wait to see more! Where did you get those handlebar bands for the cable? I can’t find them anywhere…
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@@mtbmike9866 thanks brother.
Hi mike, i think you could also get into the motor configuration and adjust the motor angle mount position, apparently this motor has a captor to check when you are getting into climbing, and with your setup it can detect you are when you are not because you have made the bike slacker.
I think i might try to do mine 150/160 to keep the 29er as it is and just raise the bb a bit, it will help since I tend to hit the pedals with it as stock.
Mine is a L and I would go rather for a float x2, do you think that would fit (with range extender), what size exactly should I look for ? I guess I don’t need bushing the way I want to go so it should be simplier.
Thanks for sharing, that’s a big help !
Ok i thought i could find a shock that matches the 150mm rear setup to keep the geometry but that seems to not exist, so i will go with the float x2 in same size as you.
If i am right to keep my HA same, i will need to put an offset bushing to make eye to eye as a 213, is it going to be a problem in 29er rear with a size L ?
Where can i find this bushings ? i am located in france
Great review~ i can see that you are using 400lbs spring. How much do you weight? And what percentage sag do you get with it? Im trying to go same route as you are.
I’m 150lbs naked. I’m running about 25-27% sag in the attack position. I think a 400lb in a shock with a large bottom out bumper like the DHX2, Ohlins, or EXT with their Hydraulic bottomout control works well. If you have a shock with a small or softer bumper like a DVO shock you may want to go up to 425-450
Great upgrade, at least by the looks.
Wont the bb become to high when you raised the suspension 20 mm?
The rear wheel is 27.5” so the BB height is identical to the stock bike
Hey Mike. Does the 216x63 fit without the offset bushing and 29er? I'm planning on going 170/160 with coil and 29er front and back.. Do you think this would work out?
Thanks in advance!
You’d have a very high ~ 350-355mm bottom bracket. Head tube would be around 65-65.5. A few guys doing this are installing two offset bushings which will bring down the BB to a more reasonable 345mm and HT slackens a bit to 64-64.5 degrees. The guy I know doing this is running an X2 air shock with a Fox 38 at 160mm
@@mtbmike9866 Thanks for the reply. So to say: If i wanna use a 170mm fork, i should use a Mullet Setup or 2 offset bushings combined with the 216x63 shock?
@@MrWuselig Mullet setup gets the BB just a tad higher than stock and will also be a hair slacker too. I used a mullet setup with 1 offset bushing but now considering removing it as slackening the bike also reduces Reach. My reach dropped probably10-15mm 😔
thinking about doing this with an 22 m20 i think. 25% is very tempting
Great video! I plan on setting my H15 to mullet as well when I get it (hopefully it’ll come in next month 🤞). Question. What’s the internal rim width, tire psi and rider weight if you don’t mind sharing? Thanks!
35mm inner width wheels, 21/26psi, 150lb or 160 ready to ride. With 30mm, I’d run 22/27psi
Can you give me some information about your height and length of your inner legs? My height is 176 an inner leg length is 80. actually I don’t know what size I have to choose - M or L - both should be possible.
68” height, 32” inseam, 73” wingspan.
I have long arms and legs and can fit both M and L also. I went with a M because I wanted a more playful bike and I’m glad I did. My Decoy is a L, my Specialized Enduro is an S3
do the orbea rise has symetric or asymetric rear wheel?
What did it do to the reach? It must have shorten that reach over 20mm plus! I don't know, seems like a killer idea but think would have to size up as to not completely throw off the center and reach. Adding a longer stem to correct just wouldn't work, who wants to run a 50mm stem.
The bike (size Medium) measured 65.0 degrees from the factory with 2.5/2.4 tires. You lose about 4-5mm of reach for every half a degree reduction in head tube. In this case, my reach dropped from 450mm to 440-442mm.
As a result, I changed the stem out from a 40mm to a 50mm to compensate.
Not even noticeable and I never wanted this bike to be a super long super stable bike. I wanted it to be playful with just more capability because by local trails demand it
@@mtbmike9866 yeah I get that but I would think the reach would be a hell of a lot less than that. That's just accounting for the fork, changing the stroke of the shock will affect hta/bb/reach as well. Also swapping to the mullet will affect all those as well. Not saying it's not a good and I could be wrong but from experience all that adds up to more than just that. Just interested in seeing what the numbers really are after all the changes. Awesome bike though 👍🏻
Other than the wheel change, any other shenanigans with setting up mullet rear wheel? i.e. did you have to mess with the speed sensor etc?
Just shock and Stunlocker to remove limiter
@@mtbmike9866 Cheers. Did you fit an offset bushing on the shock mount? If so, which end did you fit the bushing to? Also, 216x63mm shock? cheers
I live in OC also, did you happen to order 2 offset bushings and only using one? If so I'd buy one off you. Thanks Tom
I got 2 but only using one. Not selling in case I use both for a 29er setup
@@mtbmike9866 ok, thanks!
Can I ask, do you think its possible to make it a 160 front(like you did), mullet, but just 150 in the rear? or maybe not? Thanks
Yea, shove a 4mm thick slotted washer underneath the shock’s bottomout bumper to limit its stroke from 63mm to about 59mm.
55mm is 140mm travel
63mm is about 162 travel
So 59 will get you about 150
@MTB MIKE Sick build bud! Question: How do you feel about the your Rise set up to shred, in comparison to your YT Decoy? Is there overlap in purpose of use? Do you like one more than the other?
Major overlap!!! Rise technically has 162mm rear end and Decoy has 165mm. So rear end feel over hard landings and suppleness feels the same. Same Head tube.
Rise is faster on cornering, braking while the Decoy feels more stable at high speed straightaways. Also The longer fork makes a noticeable difference over high speed chunk. Both great bikes. My descending times are a bit faster on 90% of the trails and in terms of fun, the Rise easily wins.
The Rise definitely playful but on fast descents I personally don’t think it’s great , it gets overwhelmed especially on bigger jumps it’s still an amazing bike but imo it’s a bit like a Santa Cruz 5010 with a motor. PLEASE DONT GET ME WRONG THE RISE IS A GREAT BIKE AND ITS FANTASTIC ON TRAILS IT CLIMBS JUST AS GOOD AS THE ORBEA WILD IN TURBO MODE I’d give it 9/10 👍🏾
@@mtbmike9866 the only thing I find on the descents the Rise is you feel like you’re leaning forward a bit but it’s still great fun, I mean it’s a £7000 bike it’s gonna be good 👍🏾
Where did you purchase the rubber straps from? I cannot find them separate from the display.
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Could you explain please How did you fit a longer eye to eye shock? Does it lifts up the bottom bracket
Longer shock raises BB, Smaller wheel lowers BB, end up with a mullet and more rear travel
Thanks, waiting for your next video 👍🏻
@@mtbmike9866
Hi Mike,
What's the new BB height on your mullet, new shock and offset bushing set-up?
Thanks.
@@ggaattzz with 1 offset bushing, 338-339mm. It’s can vary up to 5mm dependent on tires. Without it, 341-342mm
@@mtbmike9866 Great! Perfect! Thanks very much for advise and this great mod video. Will do the same set-up as yours.
All the best! Cheers.
New on your channel Awesome content !!
How do you feel about the new alloy bike with 540wh battery? Do you ever wish for more battery on your rise? 1.5kg heavier... Love your advice?
At my weight and fitness level, I am very happy with the smaller battery. If you are much heavier or out of shape a bigger battery is useful. My bike right now is 18.7kg without pedals. Does 1.5kg make a difference? It’s kinda like me riding my bike with a range extender. The biggest thing I notice is the slight difference in braking (need to brake sooner) and how the bike feels in the air turning the back wheel sideways. If your riding is mostly on the ground and just small jumps there’s minimal differences. Another more important difference is the tire pressure. I add about 1.5psi more in the back tire whenever I run the extender as I feel the tire hits things a lot harder than it does with less weight. Remember that 1.5kg on the bike isn’t the same as 1.5kg on your body as an impact first deflects the tire, then your suspension and then your legs. So if you weigh 1.5kg more, your legs can absorb it no problem but if the bike weighs 1.5kg more the wheel is taking the majority of that impact before the suspension does so you can hear and feel the impacts are harder on the tires.
This is why running a heavier 23kg ebike requires DD or ebike or DH rated tires despite a rider weighing only 65kg. On the Rise I feel EXO tires are barely adequate so a tougher casing may be required on the alloy rise and if you mount an extender, then 100% need a tougher casing
@@mtbmike9866 Thanks a lot for the insight. I am only 145lbs and tend to stay on the ground! I feel like the larger standard battery will give me more flexibility. I'd hate to have range anxiety, especially as I would like to do some long all-day rides. I'll think about it. Thanks!
@@radicalturkey I am recovering from a Broken arm and went out for my first ride in 9 weeks on the Rise. The beauty of the bike is you can ride it with the motor off. I did 650m of climbing with 80% battery left because I turned it off most of the ride to try to get some excercise in. I was able to ride and keep up with slower Acoustic riders no problem. Now a heavier bike will be harder to pedal with no power.
To Mike and anyone else who have made the mullet conversion:
I too have my M10 Medium converted to mullet setup based on your feedback for a couple weeks now.
Front Fork Fox 36 160mm / Rear Shock Plush Coil 160mm = 216x63mm (8.5x2.5) with one offset bushing (tail).
In the past couple rides, I started to hear some weird friction noise below the frame when going over some bumps so I looked closer and found that the rear shock coil has come into contact with the frame and has left some marks under the top tube. I am a bit concerned as I am wondering if it would cause any damage to the carbon frame.
Anybody has experienced with this issue and how would you resolve it?
I’ve read on medium and small frames you have to go with a Fox Black steel or Fox SLS coil since they are a 3-4mm smaller diameter than other coils. I know my 400lb VALT coil is 2-3mm larger diameter than Fox coils and PUSH coils have the Largest diameter especially in the middle. I believe you can fit a Fox spring on a Push coil. I’ve put a Cane creek on a Push before no problem so fox should work.
How did u get a Push coil for the Rise. If you try to order they will only sell you a 210x55 on a Large or XL frame
@@mtbmike9866 Thanks for the detail feedback, appreciated it very much.
I used a DVO coil (#400 x 2.5) with a good 2nd hand Push that was recently serviced. I will try the FOX SLS coil instead and will report back if it helps with the clearance.
What was the cost savings for doing that?why not just buy a bike with more travel? I’m looking to buy but too many choices
No Cost savings, you spend a lot more $$$. But what other bike is 40lbs, has a range extender on the bike that ups the battery to 612wh, 60Nm of torque, and very capable downhill? I already own a 55lb Ebike and the quality of the ride is very different.
I Just added a 210x55 DHx2 to my rise and the coil contacts the frame at full compression. Can you take a peak under your top tube to see if you are running into this issue? Thanks.
Hmm, Looks like there is a hint of Orange under there meaning it did rub at some point. It’s been 8-9 months and 1000 miles.
@@mtbmike9866 ok. Thanks for confirming. I’m at 250mi and not sure if I should move back to an Air can. I love the feel of the DHX2 but don’t want to have any frame problems in the long run.
I'm weak with right hand turns. Need more left hip strength.
Yep, Mabe also because my right foot is forward (I’m goofy foot).
Yep it's to do with your leading foot... Try left foot forward on right corners, but slow the speed a little, try it on a trail you know well first!
I just ordered dpx2 in 8.5X2.5
Do I need to run offset bushing?
I’m going to keep 29er set up and just want to add more travel
Yes, 2 offset bushings. Without it you steepen your headtube by 1 full degree (65.5->66.5) and raise your BB by 8-10mm
@@mtbmike9866 would the modification the frame will avoid orbea warranty?
@@vfayner355 Yes, any modification to the bike can void your warranty.
What if you want to increase it to 150mm
In mullet 160mm shock sizing, run a 3mm spacer below your bottomout bumper
In 29er setup, I’d run a 210x60mm Ohlins shock
Does the range extender fit? Btw. really nice bike 👍👏
It better fit!!! 😆 Arrives in a week or two.
I think the piggy on the DPX2 and DHX2 extends about the same distance....
@@mtbmike9866 i hope 😅 give me response.
@@sonimaniacs can always flip the shock if there’s interference
Hi I’ve been checking in uk can’t get that size shock ?
8.5x2.5 inches or 216x63mm. Very common size
What size offset bushing did you use? Love the setup.
Front triangle is 8x21.84mm
Shock Extender or the Yoke side is 8x15.75mm
I ended up only using 1 of the offset bushings
@@mtbmike9866 Thank you, looking forward to the geo update. Particularly the BB height.
@@sanjosedre BB height is dependent on tires. With 2.5/2.4 Assegai/DHRII combo, BB is 339mm
How long is the Fork travel ? 160 mm?
Yes, 160
@@mtbmike9866 thanks, I’m upgrading my New RISE, I’ll soon post some video about it, probably I’ll increase the head angle, of course in the mixed wheels format
Can anyone confirm if a Fox Float X2 would fit a size large H10? Thanks 😊
It won’t fit a medium without rubbing slightly. I’ve seen them on some L and XL’s. One guy
Has had both an X2 and then a DHX2. Said the coil was night and day difference
@@mtbmike9866 Cool, I take it the guy preferred the coil. I'd prefer a beefy air shock if I can squeeze one on. Thanks for replying!
Great job ! Great vid ! Awesome bike! Maybe it’s just me but your voice sounds muffled
Sorry, just speaking to an old Gopro 7 and my iphone. No Dead cat or special mic used.
@@mtbmike9866 cool. Was hoping you were not wearing a mask outside.
Who did you order from and how long did it take for new bike day to arrive?
Evo.com, ordered Feb 1st, delivered 3rd week Feb
I ordered from bike bling at the beginning of February, I was told first week of March. I just recieved ups email today saying I'll get it April 8.
Thank you guys.
Your SoCal emtb post was the first I heard of the Rise and I’m sold. Riding a Sight in Orange County.
Ordered from Bike Bling today!ETA early May but expect it to be pushed back, April, longest month of this year.
@@mtbofadown that's awesome! Building mine right now.
Hi, shock measure?, original Fox 210 x 55
8.5x2.5 (216x63). With 1 offset bushing, 214x63
@@mtbmike9866 hi Mike where do you mount the offset bushing upper or lower?
How come you didn’t upgrade the rotors?
They have since been upgraded. Turned completely black and smoked after a Kernville trip that was >5000’ non stop descending
@@mtbmike9866 Ah, what size spec is your dhx2? Did you have to do anything else in the rear to make it work? Does it hit under full compression? I over stroked me levo to 160 & tested it with an X2 a few years ago, barely cleared. I have a 2022 dhx2 laying around from my enduro.
@@TJ-po9ol 8.5x2.5 (216x63) DHX2 w/ 1 offset bushing. Clears just fine
27.5 in the back???
How did you get the back to 160 when the frame is 140?
216x63 shock. You can use a 210x55 if you want also
@@mtbmike9866 whats the default shock of the bike?
@@e-bikerides4618 210x55 is the stock shock length for 29er, 140mm rear travel.
@@mtbmike9866 what you did is indeed correct! Nice! (I did the math...lolo)
So, are you happy with how it rides??
Nice!
I think the only concern is that when you bottom out on the rear, you have to have in mind that you BB gets about 1-2cm lower than initially designed. This is something you have to keep an eye on!
Ep8 rattle,
I have a solution for the noise,
Industry 9 LOUD Hubs!!!!
@@mtbmike9866 👍