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If you Guys are Confused stay chill. Im using the 256 GB Model and it is flying. I’m Playing Diablo Immortal on Desktop Mode 4K 60 on Ultra Graphics and the M4 is still Cold. I mean it’s really Cold nothing warm. And I’m Using on my Side Apps Discord, Apple Music and Safari and No Laggs nothing. If you are a Poweruser like using 4 Big Programms wich needs the Power of the RAM go for 1 TB and 16GB RAM. Either the 8GB Modell is working very good. The RAM Management is good and uses if the system needs more memory the Unified Memory is working and you will never run out. So most of the People should use the 256GB and saves a lot of Money. Have a Good day to everyone ✌🏼
Hi buddy I’m going to buy the 256gb model 13inch I love Movies in oled , and taking my Xbox controller on holiday to play some cloud gaming Does it run nicely gaming ? 😊
I was waiting for this review, i ordered mine on launch day and ordered the 256gb because i still use my 2018 iPad Pro 12,9 64gb, 64gb is nog enough but 256gb is more than enough for me but i only saw the next day that there are 2 different M4 chips. I looked at many reviews but nobody tested the difference they only showed what the most expensive iPad Pro could do. Thank you i now know i ordered the right one.
One downgrade except for the wide lens camera, the speaker has less bass on the m4 than the m2 13 inch. Could be because the body is thinner so less body volume.
It is called optimisation. You do not have to thrash the cores for every intensive task, as you have diminishing returns. We see this clearly with Windows and Qualcomm's X-Elite, where running at 80 watts is not 1:1 with added performance per watt.
It‘s unused because Apple has already said it won‘t work optimally until the new OS comes out with optimised drivers. This whole video was a waste of time. It‘s like playing a new game without new drivers, of course no difference shows. Reality is, more cores, more ram = better performance
@@garimakharra1784 For students that won’t be gaming. The 256gb would be more than okay. They can use google docs of office 365 to share all there notes between there iPad, classmates and teachers
Great comparison, Max! Hopefully iPad OS 18 will allow these iPads to tap into more of the power of the M4 chip. Of course by the time WWDC comes, people will be past the return window. That is why I’m keeping my 1TB model, more RAM, faster read and write speeds and the possibility of more performance is worth it to me.
Well it’s about longevity, this things gonna still beat the latest Samsung tablets even 5-6 years from now that too with the latest software! This thing can last YEARS meanwhile Samsung tabs with their mediocre performance might start to dwindle within 3-4 years
I was wondering where is 512gb version in terms of ssd speed. Checked it on my iPad and got higher read and write speeds than on 1TB version: sequential read: 3180 write: 2942 random read: 12983 write: 9972
Before I used to be careful before buying something that was sponsored but nowadays I just trust everything on this channel. My power brick, and now the cover. Thanks max and Wadeem
I tried the ESR case and it wasn’t very good. Heavy, wouldn’t hold iPad upright in the high vertical, and refrigerator magnet wouldn’t work as iPad kept sliding down.
@@Stargazer9900you shouldnt have to use additional magnets, but I wonder if you put four strong magnets on your fridge in the shape of the iPad and then put the iPad on that if it might become more useful? When I saw them put the iPad on the fridge in the trailer for the cover I immediately felt like my own fridge wouldn’t be strong enough for that. I ordered one and I’ll test it out for myself but if this case is 75% as good as I hope it will be, I’ll be happy about it.
I’ve been waiting for a video like this. I’m not much of a gamer, but I tested Resident Evil Village on the iPad Air M1 and on the basic iPad Pro M4. The M1 struggled to hit 30fps with med/low settings. The M4 was over 60fps with a mix of high/medium settings. If you were to max out the settings and resolution, it would use around 11gb of RAM. I didn’t expect the difference between the two iPads to be an issue and this video proves it. Thanks for putting in the work to stress test these.
I bought the 2TB model, now I don't need to carry around a big laptop everywhere! My powerhouse stays at home, I carry around my iPad pro, sync and offline my docs so I can work on the move
That’s why in Apple marketing material, the title is the bigger ssd, then when you click there, they tell you it has an extra core. They know the difference in performance is negligible.
This was so surprising and is going to save me money. Thank you! The difference is SGD900. I literally wanted to buy the 1TB version for the additional CPU core and RAM in HK, but ran out of time. Now I’m buying the 256GB version.
@@betonline88 Because 1 TB is way more expensive and I don't need that much storage and according to Max tech video, on an iPad having 16 GB of RAM doesn't make much of a difference, unlike Macbook, so I went with 512
I don’t see this as unexpected. Where it is pushed, there is a bit of difference, but for most tasks not really. Which for one extra core out of 10, is what you’d expect. Ultimately I got the 1TB version for storage and RAM - any extra performance is just a bonus.
Please compare the RAM or memory management between the 8GB and 16GB of the iPad Pro (M1, M2, or M4) models in a detailed test comparing iPadOS 17 and iPadOS 18 . In other words, does iPadOS 18 allow more RAM allocation for apps? Please redo your stress test that you originally did on iPadOS 15, but this time, do it on iPadOS 18 - please.
Having only 8GB of RAM won't be very helpful for multitasking in the future, whereas 16GB will be much better. The only thing I don't like about Apple is that they force us to choose the 1TB or 2TB storage options to get 16GB of RAM. Why don't they offer 16GB of RAM with the 256GB or 512GB storage options? Most people would opt for 16GB of RAM regardless of the storage size because many of us are already paying $1 monthly for iCloud storage
@@yallheartheteaisboiling9989 LLMs are RAM hogs. Xcode Predictive Code Completion won’t work on Macs with less than 16GB of RAM for example. iPhone 15 Pro with 8GB of RAM can do Apple Intelligence while the base iPhone 15 with 6GB can’t, why do you think the base iPhone 16 now also has 8GB of RAM?
It would make more sense to do a comparison like this only after the devices have been out for at least 3 months. All this video is showing me is that Apple & devs haven't truly optimized its software for the hardware. Wouldn't be surprised if we see better performance variance in a few months.
True but still, parameter wise, there is still minimal difference between these two tested devices. There is not so wide range for making improvements for apps using higher specced iPads Pro. In my opinion the bandwidth of ssds and ram size will matter in the optimisation much much more then cpu difference ...
These are such high-performing chips that they fly through tasks like this like a hot knife through butter. They do not need to smash all cores because iPadOS has great optimisations. What this tells us is that this iPad Pro will handle anything with aplomb and is easily the best tablet in the world in performance.
I just bought a 256gb M4 iPad and an M3 Macbook Air, w/ 16gb RAM. I mostly store my stuff in cloud drives, so high local storage isn't a necessity. Looks like I made the right choice in both cases in terms of best value!
I feel the reason ipads are not doing to well, is becuase ipad tech overall has matured, and there is little apple can do to make buyers more excited about new ipads.
No one gets excited because, let’s be honest iPadOS is just iOS with a different name. It’s too limiting. They need to do something to get it away from iOS
Ipad OS is so limited. Even with mouse support; I can get a similar task done on OSX in a fraction of the time. Even cutting and pasting something simple from one program to another. It’s needlessly frustrating. IPad does some stuff incredibly well; but it definitely seems like the OS has hit a development wall of sorts.
Most people by ipads to do "ipad things", like web browsing or playing some games. besides adding 120hz to the ipad air, there isnt much else apple can do to give users a better experience for that sort of tasks. And for some reason apple choses not to improve ipad OS for users looking to do proffeshional work. The sky-high price of the 13" pro also puts it in a akward spot
Nah, I'm still going to buy the 1TB version, not because I need that much storage, but because it supports significantly more layers in Procreate, which I use for my work.
@@Meven2001 The iPad Pro with 1TB of storage has 16GB of RAM, while the 512GB version only has 8GB of RAM. For comparison, the iPad Pro 12.9 64GB (2nd generation) can open 55 layers in Procreate at 3000x3000px, 300 DPI. The iPad Pro 13 with 256GB and 512GB can open 112 layers, and the iPad Pro 13 with 1TB can open 204 layers, almost double the number of layers compared to the 256GB and 512GB versions.
@@acerolahwq2649 I use my iPad for work and make complex, Portraits and landscape work as well as architectural work / design. I got the Pencil pro and the 256Gb Model of the 13 Inch Pro. Its been perfectly fine, more than perfect in fact. Most of my drawings dont exceed 25 layer, if theyre super detailed I might hit the 35 mark. I see no reason as to why id ever need more than 112 layers on any given project.
Can you do a power input test for the iPad Pro M4? I’d like to see how fast this iPad can charge and how big of a (n understatement) lie the power draw is - for example, the iPhone was advertised as 20w charging but the pro max can actually charge at 30 watts, and the iPad at 35 watts for the 11 inch and 41 watts for the 13 inch.
The 16GB ram will be benefit when it run on device LLMs later on, Apple may try to fit in a small size LLM in next iPadOS update, the extra ram will help gives more leg room for other application running seamlessly. Hence that's why only 1TB + model will get 16GB or ram for holding LLM model locally.
This comment aged poorly, there’s nothing about apple intelligence that needs 16gb of RAM, in fact the only real feature the IPad will have is a damn calculator 😂
I really appreciate this video after I purchased my 256 GB model. I had a lot of mixed feelings for the first day and now I’ve had it for six days and I watch your video and I feel so much better saving that $600
Great review Max Tech. Try pushing the IPad, multi tasking with the extra screen. Live streaming, trading reading charts, gaming etc. That way we can see if the Ram makes a difference.
Really appreciate video I was planning to buy the more expensive one with more ram but after seeing this video it’s not worth it just going with the regular one really help on deciding 👍🏼
Same here. Happy with my baseline model. I’m upset at Apple for withholding an extra performance core to the terabytes tiers but I guess it’s not a big deal.
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@MaxtechOfficial - Firstly love your videos. I have a suggestion to test the ipad pro. Can you try using it like a laptop with stage manager enabled and multitask as in, be on a zoom call and in the background export some images. That might show difference in RAM
Too late, I already bought the 1 TB version. I did it because of apps like Procreate. More RAM equals higher resolution with more layers. But I guess none of my projects will ever reach the threshold.
Maybe if we pray hard enough, ipadOS 18 will have a more mac like experience and allow the higher specs on the more expensive models to be taken advantage of.. haha who am I kidding.
@@gosman949 I ordered Paperlike. PS: Why would you hope for such a thing? Is it because you hope that "idiots" like me need to be punished for giving money to Apple? Apps like Nomad Sculpt, ProCreate and ClipStudio Paint allone are worth the investment in an iPad with good specs.
great video just what i was looking for - I'm also curious about the relative battery life... suspect the 9-core will perform better with lower power consumption?
Apple stated last gen extra Ram is not for extra performance but for handling the SSD/ Storage when the IPAD is Fully loaded/ Storage is maxed out at full capacity. You will definitely not see a difference comparing base model and 1 tb without the storage not being maxed out. You have to do real testing bro, I would thought you of all people would have known that, by now.
I’m on base 256GB. I knew what i was buying, and ultimately don’t need the crazy performance. What i did need was the Pencil Pro and screen tech. I wanted the Face ID, four speakers and metal Magic Keyboard. Fly’s through everything I need it to
@MaxTechOfficial Please, could you verify if those 16 GB RAM M4 iPads will be improved in the future with a newer version of the iPadOS operating system as well as the apps? And will we see a bigger difference in overall performance? Thank you.
Could you do a ram comparison with multiple Apps at once similar to how you have done it with the Mac? Since with stage manager you can have 4 Apps running at the same time so could have the browser open with different tabs like your gmail, some articles and a RUclips Video playing in the background and then have two Video or Photo editing apps exporting or benchmark apps running at the same time. It would also be interesting to compare it directly to a similar spec Mac with the same apps open.
They did one with the M1, 3 years ago, and apparently decided it’s not worth bothering revisiting it🤣. The tests were also half-serious, they didn’t even use apps that would be known to real iPad users that are RAM hungry for the RAM test, and Genshin left in the starting menu🤣🤣🤣. Seriously speaking, I saw a huge difference in multitasking from 8gb M1 to 16gb M4. Some real RAM eaters - Safari tabs, Google Earth + Apple Maps photogrammetry, 3D modeling with complex models, multiple chat apps, honkai star rail, no apps get closed UNLIKE the M1. Not a direct M4 8vs16gb but unless M1 somehow had less effective ram it shouldn’t matter.
Hello !! I am planning to buy the ipad pro m4 for digital art , gaming , editing , netflix etc etc . But I am confused whether i should get the 8gb ram 512 gb version or the 16gb ram 1tb version . I am not going to do any heavy office work or any production work . Which one should I get ?
Good question bud, if I can afford it I always buy the highest spec even if I don't need it , that way i`m hoping to be future proofed to a degree , and hopefully the extra money spent allows the device to be useful for years to come . I hate buying new tech every one or two years , I like to maximise my use of it until the wheels fall off ... so to speak 😉.
Until the apps are optimized, the better performance is wasted. The bigger problem is that most app developers only target the lower spec. So, my $2k iPad pro is only as good as $399 iPad. It's all in software, but they all share the same OS and same apps.
I would love to see you guys do a showdown between the M4 iPad Pro and the M1 MacBook Air (both fan-less and could possibly do an M1, M2, M3 MB Air vs M4 iPad Pro showdown) to see just how far Apple has come with this latest iteration of M series chips (even in an iPad form factor).
512 seems to be the sweet spot :) I made a good choice. I would like to see how many apps you can keep open on either model before they have to refresh
Thanks! This is the video I’ve been waiting for. I have an M2 11” 256GB, but unfortunately I recently cracked the screen and didn’t have AppleCare. So far, it still works fine but I’m afraid of travelling with it and will pass it on in my family. I use my iPad for the regular stuff and use it for primarily for music creation and video editing. With the M2 I have not found that I’ve run up against any cpu issues, so I imagine that the M4 will be the same and better.
Great to see Pro App benchmarking for the iPads - please keep extending this. Maybe track loading FCP & Logic or Octane X too? Unsure if Photoshop has a scene/benchmark/macro which can be run. Looks like your Lr test needs more images (500?) Could the graphs include Macs for comparison? FYI Solar Bay is matching performance of an M1 Max (maybe good to see it in a chart as the 3DMark site excludes Apple products)
Here's another set of Jazz Disk Bench 7.0.2 Pro data-points. Device: iPad Pro (model iPad16,5) 13-inch (May 2024) 512GB wi-fi Sequential read: 2876 MB/s Sequential write: 2485 MB/s Random (4K) read: 12911 iops, 50 MB/s Random (4K) write: 9487 iops, 37 MB/s Latency read 0.07129 ms Latency write 0.04688 ms
I hope you had some delay between updating and running these benchmarks. It’s known that background processes can eat into performance for a period of time after updating
For students, the Ipad has always been a no-brainer if you take advantage of the apple pencil. Lack of software compatibility has always forced those same students to buy a laptop, sometimes even windows depending on the application. The Ipad by far is one of Apple’s best products, it is getting close to the device that can do it all. Hopefully in the future they can bring themselves to let us use more applications to take advantage of the extra performance and efficiency
The 256GB model is already extremely expensive so there was no way I could justify an additional $600. Anyway, the base level storage is already more than I need. Overall I do feel super happy with my purchase and it seems like a big upgrade to me. Especially the magic keyboard seems way nicer and I'm so happy about the camera location change.
I was waiting for your video to come up. I now have decided which model to pick. You guys are amazing at comparing these two new iPad models thoroughly. I see no other RUclipsrs have tested the new iPad thoroughly. Keep it up!
2 thoughts: 1: This partially explains why they didn't mention 9 core vs 10 core at all during the keynote. 2: It will be interesting to see if there is a bigger difference at the end of the year with iPadOS 18 and time for app developers design apps that can take advantage.
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Amazing video. I’m shocked people aren’t making more of these in comparison on the 8gb versus the 16gb.
If you Guys are Confused stay chill. Im using the 256 GB Model and it is flying. I’m Playing Diablo Immortal on Desktop Mode 4K 60 on Ultra Graphics and the M4 is still Cold. I mean it’s really Cold nothing warm. And I’m Using on my Side Apps Discord, Apple Music and Safari and No Laggs nothing. If you are a Poweruser like using 4 Big Programms wich needs the Power of the RAM go for 1 TB and 16GB RAM. Either the 8GB Modell is working very good. The RAM Management is good and uses if the system needs more memory the Unified Memory is working and you will never run out. So most of the People should use the 256GB and saves a lot of Money. Have a Good day to everyone ✌🏼
Hi buddy I’m going to buy the 256gb model 13inch
I love
Movies in oled , and taking my Xbox controller on holiday to play some cloud gaming
Does it run nicely gaming ? 😊
this could really use some grammar fixes
@@wootton900It doesn't matter how good is your SoC if you're playing cloud...
Can you olease try ragnarok origin at full settings high everything please
What’s desktop mode?
In past years Apple has said the RAM was doubled for the high storage capacity models to help manage the storage not for app performance.
Exactly
For me,
iPad doesn't need to be a Mac,
but I don't want it to just be a larger iPhone.
I want it to be a bigger iPhone. I have a old iPhone. It’s good at being a phone. It’s good at watching videos. My iPad is good for things at home.
me 2 bruv
I was waiting for this review, i ordered mine on launch day and ordered the 256gb because i still use my 2018 iPad Pro 12,9 64gb, 64gb is nog enough but 256gb is more than enough for me but i only saw the next day that there are 2 different M4 chips. I looked at many reviews but nobody tested the difference they only showed what the most expensive iPad Pro could do. Thank you i now know i ordered the right one.
Its perfect to my situation xD Im also have ipad pro 2018 and think about new one
Waiting on the comparison vid between the m2 and m4 iPad Pro
There isn’t an M4 air 😂 it’s an m2 iPad Air which is the upgrade from m1
@@TerraNerds I meant to say pro lmao
@@lefthanded5473 just making sure you knew a lot of people recently though the new air was M4 😂
M4 should run like the M2 with half as much power
One downgrade except for the wide lens camera, the speaker has less bass on the m4 than the m2 13 inch. Could be because the body is thinner so less body volume.
Thank you. Feels like the extra core is barely used!
It is called optimisation. You do not have to thrash the cores for every intensive task, as you have diminishing returns. We see this clearly with Windows and Qualcomm's X-Elite, where running at 80 watts is not 1:1 with added performance per watt.
It‘s unused because Apple has already said it won‘t work optimally until the new OS comes out with optimised drivers. This whole video was a waste of time. It‘s like playing a new game without new drivers, of course no difference shows. Reality is, more cores, more ram = better performance
@@FlatEarthDenier suggest me which is better for phd students 256 /512/1TB?
@@garimakharra1784 For students that won’t be gaming. The 256gb would be more than okay. They can use google docs of office 365 to share all there notes between there iPad, classmates and teachers
This was what I have been anticipating!! A comparison between the binned M4 and the full M4 !! Thanks Max Tech ❤
Great comparison, Max! Hopefully iPad OS 18 will allow these iPads to tap into more of the power of the M4 chip. Of course by the time WWDC comes, people will be past the return window. That is why I’m keeping my 1TB model, more RAM, faster read and write speeds and the possibility of more performance is worth it to me.
The M4 is like having 1000 horsepower with iOS being a 5 galling gas tank.
This is the perfect comment.
Very witty and accurate
At this point we just need a macOS iPad, “touch screen mac”
Well it’s about longevity, this things gonna still beat the latest Samsung tablets even 5-6 years from now that too with the latest software! This thing can last YEARS meanwhile Samsung tabs with their mediocre performance might start to dwindle within 3-4 years
Or a horse with no legs
日本人です。この差は気になっていたので、とても助かります。ありがとうございます。日本は経済が良くなく、円安が発生しているので、iPadProM4 13inchを買おうとしたら1番安いモデルでも新人の給料1ヶ月分に相当するのでiPadProはとても高級品となっています😢
I was wondering where is 512gb version in terms of ssd speed. Checked it on my iPad and got higher read and write speeds than on 1TB version:
sequential
read: 3180
write: 2942
random
read: 12983
write: 9972
Same here, i can confirm!
Before I used to be careful before buying something that was sponsored but nowadays I just trust everything on this channel. My power brick, and now the cover. Thanks max and Wadeem
I tried the ESR case and it wasn’t very good. Heavy, wouldn’t hold iPad upright in the high vertical, and refrigerator magnet wouldn’t work as iPad kept sliding down.
@@Stargazer9900you shouldnt have to use additional magnets, but I wonder if you put four strong magnets on your fridge in the shape of the iPad and then put the iPad on that if it might become more useful? When I saw them put the iPad on the fridge in the trailer for the cover I immediately felt like my own fridge wouldn’t be strong enough for that. I ordered one and I’ll test it out for myself but if this case is 75% as good as I hope it will be, I’ll be happy about it.
I’ve been waiting for a video like this. I’m not much of a gamer, but I tested Resident Evil Village on the iPad Air M1 and on the basic iPad Pro M4. The M1 struggled to hit 30fps with med/low settings. The M4 was over 60fps with a mix of high/medium settings. If you were to max out the settings and resolution, it would use around 11gb of RAM. I didn’t expect the difference between the two iPads to be an issue and this video proves it. Thanks for putting in the work to stress test these.
Got mine yesterday 😍😍 chose a 13inch M4 pro with 9 core version in black. OMG it looks so good and I am totally happy with the performance
me too 512gb
Finally! Been waiting on this 🎉
Okay but those geekbench specs are incredible, just as fast as an Intel i9 processor!
faster than my m1max studio lol
Faster😊
Its faster than my last years i9, thats crazy, I never wanted to buy an ipad before but now thinking about it
@@stevenjamesofficial that’s nuts!
@@mii7s I think I’ll wait for the M4 MacBook Air.
I bought the 2TB model, now I don't need to carry around a big laptop everywhere! My powerhouse stays at home, I carry around my iPad pro, sync and offline my docs so I can work on the move
I’m happy I got the 512GB model
That’s why in Apple marketing material, the title is the bigger ssd, then when you click there, they tell you it has an extra core. They know the difference in performance is negligible.
Well the m4 is probably binned so you probably will get better battery with the unbinned 10 core chip
This was so surprising and is going to save me money. Thank you! The difference is SGD900. I literally wanted to buy the 1TB version for the additional CPU core and RAM in HK, but ran out of time. Now I’m buying the 256GB version.
In Canada, the jump from 256GB to 1TB is $900 😢. Thanks for this!
Yes bro😢very expensive
Thank you for doing this comparison, now I can go for 256 base configuration with ease of mind without felling left out 😘
well 256 has a single nand, gonna be slower, I opted for 512 tho
@@Matchleader at this point why don't go for 1tb and get the double RAM ?
@@betonline88 Because 1 TB is way more expensive and I don't need that much storage and according to Max tech video, on an iPad having 16 GB of RAM doesn't make much of a difference, unlike Macbook, so I went with 512
Great video! Will probably save a lot of people some money!
I don’t see this as unexpected. Where it is pushed, there is a bit of difference, but for most tasks not really. Which for one extra core out of 10, is what you’d expect. Ultimately I got the 1TB version for storage and RAM - any extra performance is just a bonus.
Please compare the RAM or memory management between the 8GB and 16GB of the iPad Pro (M1, M2, or M4) models in a detailed test comparing iPadOS 17 and iPadOS 18 . In other words, does iPadOS 18 allow more RAM allocation for apps? Please redo your stress test that you originally did on iPadOS 15, but this time, do it on iPadOS 18 - please.
iPad Pro M4 = Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut.
iPad OS = Speed bump every 100 feet.
Having only 8GB of RAM won't be very helpful for multitasking in the future, whereas 16GB will be much better. The only thing I don't like about Apple is that they force us to choose the 1TB or 2TB storage options to get 16GB of RAM. Why don't they offer 16GB of RAM with the 256GB or 512GB storage options? Most people would opt for 16GB of RAM regardless of the storage size because many of us are already paying $1 monthly for iCloud storage
8gb is enough for years and with the money saved you can buy the next gen M6 iPad Pro
Not to mention Apple Intelligence will heavily benefit from more RAM
@@brechtxt8096 well I Will wait and see nothing is there for now
@@brechtxt8096not really lol
@@yallheartheteaisboiling9989 LLMs are RAM hogs. Xcode Predictive Code Completion won’t work on Macs with less than 16GB of RAM for example. iPhone 15 Pro with 8GB of RAM can do Apple Intelligence while the base iPhone 15 with 6GB can’t, why do you think the base iPhone 16 now also has 8GB of RAM?
It would make more sense to do a comparison like this only after the devices have been out for at least 3 months. All this video is showing me is that Apple & devs haven't truly optimized its software for the hardware. Wouldn't be surprised if we see better performance variance in a few months.
This.
True but still, parameter wise, there is still minimal difference between these two tested devices. There is not so wide range for making improvements for apps using higher specced iPads Pro. In my opinion the bandwidth of ssds and ram size will matter in the optimisation much much more then cpu difference ...
These are such high-performing chips that they fly through tasks like this like a hot knife through butter. They do not need to smash all cores because iPadOS has great optimisations. What this tells us is that this iPad Pro will handle anything with aplomb and is easily the best tablet in the world in performance.
I just bought a 256gb M4 iPad and an M3 Macbook Air, w/ 16gb RAM. I mostly store my stuff in cloud drives, so high local storage isn't a necessity. Looks like I made the right choice in both cases in terms of best value!
Who cares about performance when it’s running iOS
Not for long…
Yep
@@UKPtrk do you really think Apple would laugh it with just enough time to get away from the 14 day return window? Devious
it's the 8gb vs 16gb ram that matters, 16gb would be so much better future proof. But yeah, definitely not worth that extra 600 bucks
@@UKPtrkwishful thinking 😂
I feel the reason ipads are not doing to well, is becuase ipad tech overall has matured, and there is little apple can do to make buyers more excited about new ipads.
Increasing base prices , limited backward compatibility and artificially limiting air to 60hz doesnt help.
No one gets excited because, let’s be honest iPadOS is just iOS with a different name. It’s too limiting. They need to do something to get it away from iOS
Ipad OS is so limited. Even with mouse support; I can get a similar task done on OSX in a fraction of the time. Even cutting and pasting something simple from one program to another. It’s needlessly frustrating. IPad does some stuff incredibly well; but it definitely seems like the OS has hit a development wall of sorts.
Most people by ipads to do "ipad things", like web browsing or playing some games. besides adding 120hz to the ipad air, there isnt much else apple can do to give users a better experience for that sort of tasks. And for some reason apple choses not to improve ipad OS for users looking to do proffeshional work. The sky-high price of the 13" pro also puts it in a akward spot
It sells way more than the Mac though… it sells a lot more than ppl realize
I’m surprised there wasn’t a DaVinci comparison or export times for video editing
I'm sure there will be later
Take 5 seconds longer, is that worth it?
Nah, I'm still going to buy the 1TB version, not because I need that much storage, but because it supports significantly more layers in Procreate, which I use for my work.
Exactly why I got a 1tb.
Same
What is the difference between the 512MB and 1TB ? Can you tell me the numbers of layers you can do on both ?
@@Meven2001 The iPad Pro with 1TB of storage has 16GB of RAM, while the 512GB version only has 8GB of RAM. For comparison, the iPad Pro 12.9 64GB (2nd generation) can open 55 layers in Procreate at 3000x3000px, 300 DPI. The iPad Pro 13 with 256GB and 512GB can open 112 layers, and the iPad Pro 13 with 1TB can open 204 layers, almost double the number of layers compared to the 256GB and 512GB versions.
@@acerolahwq2649 I use my iPad for work and make complex, Portraits and landscape work as well as architectural work / design. I got the Pencil pro and the 256Gb Model of the 13 Inch Pro.
Its been perfectly fine, more than perfect in fact. Most of my drawings dont exceed 25 layer, if theyre super detailed I might hit the 35 mark.
I see no reason as to why id ever need more than 112 layers on any given project.
The doubled ram is NOT allocated for program use. It’s strictly for data handling for the larger storage.
Apple has been planning this for over 11 years and its so satisfying to see all of this come together
We are gonna need a 11 vs 13 Pro now 👌🏻
Thanks for this video. That helps alot!
Great review! I like your tests that other reviews have not covered to show us the 9c vs 10c ipad differences.
Can you do a power input test for the iPad Pro M4? I’d like to see how fast this iPad can charge and how big of a (n understatement) lie the power draw is - for example, the iPhone was advertised as 20w charging but the pro max can actually charge at 30 watts, and the iPad at 35 watts for the 11 inch and 41 watts for the 13 inch.
PLEASE do a video comparing performance in some more pro apps like Final Cut, Logic, and Resolve
The 16GB ram will be benefit when it run on device LLMs later on, Apple may try to fit in a small size LLM in next iPadOS update, the extra ram will help gives more leg room for other application running seamlessly. Hence that's why only 1TB + model will get 16GB or ram for holding LLM model locally.
This comment aged poorly, there’s nothing about apple intelligence that needs 16gb of RAM, in fact the only real feature the IPad will have is a damn calculator 😂
I really appreciate this video after I purchased my 256 GB model. I had a lot of mixed feelings for the first day and now I’ve had it for six days and I watch your video and I feel so much better saving that $600
Great review Max Tech. Try pushing the IPad, multi tasking with the extra screen. Live streaming, trading reading charts, gaming etc. That way we can see if the Ram makes a difference.
Better title: "is it worth spending 600$ for youtube to open 3ms quicker"
Correction, black cable only comes with higher end 10 core model not based on colours
Really appreciate video I was planning to buy the more expensive one with more ram but after seeing this video it’s not worth it just going with the regular one really help on deciding 👍🏼
Extremely helpful video. Thanks!
Thanks for this video. Puts my mind at ease.
Same here. Happy with my baseline model. I’m upset at Apple for withholding an extra performance core to the terabytes tiers but I guess it’s not a big deal.
Results Are All The Same Due To iPad OS! Doesn’t matter if you have a 2017 10.5 iPad Pro or the 2018 iPad Pro. It All Runs The Same Due To iPad OS Optimizing The System / Device To Run Smoothly!
ive been waiting for this video for such a long time, I am so excited
Thanks guys. Was hoping to see a review like this
You saved me a ton of money, I love you man
Will be interesting to see if the 512Gb models that could have dual NAND chips narrows that difference between the 9 & 10 core models yet further.
Thank you! So let’s go for the 256gb model 🎉
Thanks for making my decision a whole lot easier! Looks like the 11inch 512gb model it is then 🙌🏽
The only question I have about the synthetic tests is if they've been designed to take advantage of the additional RAM in the 16GB model?
Man this is the video i have been looking for since the new ipad came out
@MaxtechOfficial - Firstly love your videos. I have a suggestion to test the ipad pro. Can you try using it like a laptop with stage manager enabled and multitask as in, be on a zoom call and in the background export some images. That might show difference in RAM
Too late, I already bought the 1 TB version. I did it because of apps like Procreate. More RAM equals higher resolution with more layers. But I guess none of my projects will ever reach the threshold.
and I hope you got the texture glass!
Maybe if we pray hard enough, ipadOS 18 will have a more mac like experience and allow the higher specs on the more expensive models to be taken advantage of.. haha who am I kidding.
Exactly why Im going with 1TB too
@@gosman949 I ordered Paperlike.
PS: Why would you hope for such a thing? Is it because you hope that "idiots" like me need to be punished for giving money to Apple? Apps like Nomad Sculpt, ProCreate and ClipStudio Paint allone are worth the investment in an iPad with good specs.
@@JustKeepFlying I really hope for some iPad surprises presented at the June event.
Wonder if the 512GB model would have single NAND as well?
I’d like to know too. I suspect it’ll have two chips and maybe have comparable SSD performance to the 1TB model. Would really like to know.
Same, someone review the 512 model as well!
Okay, well didn't expect that!
Thank you for saving some people some money!
great video just what i was looking for - I'm also curious about the relative battery life... suspect the 9-core will perform better with lower power consumption?
Wow.. thanks for all that testing. You literally destroyed the logic of getting a 1TB 10-core iPad Pro right there.
Apple stated last gen extra Ram is not for extra performance but for handling the SSD/ Storage when the IPAD is Fully loaded/ Storage is maxed out at full capacity. You will definitely not see a difference comparing base model and 1 tb without the storage not being maxed out. You have to do real testing bro, I would thought you of all people would have known that, by now.
Does 512 have 2 NAND flashes and higher memory speed
Yes
@@stevebarnes3108 thank you
@@stevebarnes3108 thank you
I’m on base 256GB. I knew what i was buying, and ultimately don’t need the crazy performance. What i did need was the Pencil Pro and screen tech. I wanted the Face ID, four speakers and metal Magic Keyboard. Fly’s through everything I need it to
@MaxTechOfficial Please, could you verify if those 16 GB RAM M4 iPads will be improved in the future with a newer version of the iPadOS operating system as well as the apps? And will we see a bigger difference in overall performance? Thank you.
Could you do a ram comparison with multiple Apps at once similar to how you have done it with the Mac? Since with stage manager you can have 4 Apps running at the same time so could have the browser open with different tabs like your gmail, some articles and a RUclips Video playing in the background and then have two Video or Photo editing apps exporting or benchmark apps running at the same time. It would also be interesting to compare it directly to a similar spec Mac with the same apps open.
They did one with the M1, 3 years ago, and apparently decided it’s not worth bothering revisiting it🤣.
The tests were also half-serious, they didn’t even use apps that would be known to real iPad users that are RAM hungry for the RAM test, and Genshin left in the starting menu🤣🤣🤣.
Seriously speaking, I saw a huge difference in multitasking from 8gb M1 to 16gb M4. Some real RAM eaters - Safari tabs, Google Earth + Apple Maps photogrammetry, 3D modeling with complex models, multiple chat apps, honkai star rail, no apps get closed UNLIKE the M1. Not a direct M4 8vs16gb but unless M1 somehow had less effective ram it shouldn’t matter.
@@illien_3915 That sounds good. (Also a Honkai: Star Rail player here)
It will be interesting to see a fresh comparison once iPadOS 18 is here. I’m guessing it will be fully optimised for the extras on the 1T/2T.
Hello !! I am planning to buy the ipad pro m4 for digital art , gaming , editing , netflix etc etc . But I am confused whether i should get the 8gb ram 512 gb version or the 16gb ram 1tb version . I am not going to do any heavy office work or any production work . Which one should I get ?
Good question bud, if I can afford it I always buy the highest spec even if I don't need it , that way i`m hoping to be future proofed to a degree , and hopefully the extra money spent allows the device to be useful for years to come .
I hate buying new tech every one or two years , I like to maximise my use of it until the wheels fall off ... so to speak 😉.
@@mikldude9376 yep . Same here
Until the apps are optimized, the better performance is wasted. The bigger problem is that most app developers only target the lower spec. So, my $2k iPad pro is only as good as $399 iPad. It's all in software, but they all share the same OS and same apps.
Did you use the 11 or 13 inch versions in this video? Please also do a comparison of GPU performance between the 11 and 13 inch versions
3:14 9 vs 10 cores and you get 8% difference. Why would you expect anything different?
The bezels should be a bit thinner.
I would love to see you guys do a showdown between the M4 iPad Pro and the M1 MacBook Air (both fan-less and could possibly do an M1, M2, M3 MB Air vs M4 iPad Pro showdown) to see just how far Apple has come with this latest iteration of M series chips (even in an iPad form factor).
Thanks for the video. I was hoping you would do one on this topic.
Plz same test after WWDC updates on AAA games, DR, FCP, Procreate and Logic with 10 apps running in the background!
Please redo this same test with iPadOS 18!!!!!!!!!
This is exactly the video I’ve been wanting to see! Is the 1gb version worth the upgrade? Thanks, you just saved me $600.
What else besides benchmarking is the benefit of having more performance in the iPads?
512 seems to be the sweet spot :) I made a good choice. I would like to see how many apps you can keep open on either model before they have to refresh
Thanks! This is the video I’ve been waiting for. I have an M2 11” 256GB, but unfortunately I recently cracked the screen and didn’t have AppleCare. So far, it still works fine but I’m afraid of travelling with it and will pass it on in my family. I use my iPad for the regular stuff and use it for primarily for music creation and video editing. With the M2 I have not found that I’ve run up against any cpu issues, so I imagine that the M4 will be the same and better.
Is there a storage read/write speed difference between 256GB and 512GB?
Thank you verymuch❤❤
Nicely done! Thank you for doing this video.
Great to see Pro App benchmarking for the iPads - please keep extending this. Maybe track loading FCP & Logic or Octane X too? Unsure if Photoshop has a scene/benchmark/macro which can be run. Looks like your Lr test needs more images (500?) Could the graphs include Macs for comparison?
FYI Solar Bay is matching performance of an M1 Max (maybe good to see it in a chart as the 3DMark site excludes Apple products)
Here's another set of Jazz Disk Bench 7.0.2 Pro data-points.
Device: iPad Pro (model iPad16,5) 13-inch (May 2024) 512GB wi-fi
Sequential read: 2876 MB/s
Sequential write: 2485 MB/s
Random (4K) read: 12911 iops, 50 MB/s
Random (4K) write: 9487 iops, 37 MB/s
Latency read 0.07129 ms
Latency write 0.04688 ms
I hope you had some delay between updating and running these benchmarks. It’s known that background processes can eat into performance for a period of time after updating
Will the software update allow iPadOS to utilise the extra core more efficiently?
For students, the Ipad has always been a no-brainer if you take advantage of the apple pencil. Lack of software compatibility has always forced those same students to buy a laptop, sometimes even windows depending on the application. The Ipad by far is one of Apple’s best products, it is getting close to the device that can do it all. Hopefully in the future they can bring themselves to let us use more applications to take advantage of the extra performance and efficiency
The 256GB model is already extremely expensive so there was no way I could justify an additional $600. Anyway, the base level storage is already more than I need. Overall I do feel super happy with my purchase and it seems like a big upgrade to me. Especially the magic keyboard seems way nicer and I'm so happy about the camera location change.
I was waiting for your video to come up. I now have decided which model to pick. You guys are amazing at comparing these two new iPad models thoroughly. I see no other RUclipsrs have tested the new iPad thoroughly. Keep it up!
you will not get the texture screen. So sorry!
What about gaming performance? Do games benefit at all?
Thanks for the test. I'm getting the baseline 13inch.
Interesting to see. Wonder if you could do a Logic Pro max-out test on them both to see if the RAM makes much difference on that.
2 thoughts: 1: This partially explains why they didn't mention 9 core vs 10 core at all during the keynote. 2: It will be interesting to see if there is a bigger difference at the end of the year with iPadOS 18 and time for app developers design apps that can take advantage.