Bugera Amps are dangerous?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- You all know what they say about this amplifier, they catch fire! While that's probably nonsense, I wanted to check one out and see if we could get it chugging. So commence the chugs.
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Dude I've owned the 333XL infinium since 2016 and I can tell you its a bad ass beast complimented and asked about by a few famous guitarsist from bands I've played shows with pre covid. Like metal church who we're close with, same with Jack Russell's great white, George lynch's mob to name a few. I've gotten a lot of compliments on tone. Me I love it ! And have after countless hours of shreds no issues AT ALL ! 🤘😎🤘
Forgot to mention I dropped some high end electro harmonix 6L6s in and love it even more. Never had that microphonic noise your talking about. Also I always ran my pedal board through the looper and played through the clean channel.
Lol. Microphonic
The old stock used plastic clips that would melt. The infinitum is just their way of saying "we fixed the clips". I have had mine since 2016 with no problems
100% this but imho there were updated non infinium models with direct soldered cables!
Infinitum gave you self biasing tubes, the 333 had socket issues, that also got fixed in the 333xl. Never had an issue with mine either.
@@ayeapprove Yes, the melting/burning plastic connector problem was fixed way before Infinium models existed. But the reputation stuck anyway.
''The infinitum is just their way of saying "we fixed the clips''. Nah, it's just your way of talking about things that your feeble mind is unable to understand. Just tell any amp tech what you say, they'll laugh in your face. Nothing personal, but I own several Bugera amps and I do know exactly what the Infinium does. You won't find this stuff on amps costing 6 times more, Hughes and Kettner puts a basic version of the Infinium on their more expensive amps, and it can't do half of what the Infinium does. It's ok to not understand stuff, but not ok to go around talking as if you understood it. Peace...
@@philosopher1276 are you ok?
Bugera amps are fine. I bought a 1990 in 2010 and aside from coming from the factory biased extremely hot, I never had any issues with it. I still play it from time to time. Despite being a clone of the JCM 900, I would argue that this is actually a better amp because it has more gain and I can gig with it and never have to worry about it being stolen because nobody wants a Bugera.
By the way, love the classic NES Final Fantasy sound effects. Been loving that game since it first released.
I'm glad you caught that! One of my all time favorites.
@@TaylorDanley I actually preferred Dragon Warrior 3 and 4, but the NES Final Fantasy definitely has a desperate, spooky quality to it that the other remakes and remasters didn't have. I still go back and play the original NES version from time to time.
Hey Taylor,
The microphonics is from the tubes.I have 3 Bugera's and I always change the stock tubes .Not the best quality. I run a BBE sonic maximizer in the effects loop of my Bugera's just to beef up the low end. Pretty decent amps.
The 333xl is better suited to Peavey JSX/XXX cabs in my experience of owning one for many years. I've always found that I would have to change out the stock pre-amp tubes almost all the time because of their microphonic nature. The age old controversy of them catching on fire was in the older, pre-Infinium models but has been resolved in the Infinium models. I think they're great amps and not just for the affordability.
Their trirec is pretty neat.
I wish they still made them.
Also, love the final fantasy sfx. Really adds alot of spice to the editing.
I bought one. Amazing tone, when you change the tubes! Terrible amps, terrible service, returned for not being fixed under warranty (we are allowed here to simply return if the repair under warranty excedes 30 days) and, a couple of years latter THE AMP STILL HADN'T BEEN TAKEN TO REPAIR FROM THE DEALER THAT SOLD IT TO ME BY THE BRAND, so the dealer ended up giving me my money back and stuck with an amp that had a recognized factory deffect (the amp got stuck in the clean channel when hot). With that money I bought a used Marshall that is still going strong with 0 issues and a ton of mods made! Best descision of my life
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, I've been very curious about Bugera amps. I am really interested in this particular model and have seen a couple for sale in pawn shops near me
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you can find one cheap get it. My trirec is awesome. The 6262 is a good 5150 clone as well.
@@thulsadoomed I will for sure... Thanks for the advice
Good amps for the money, I have the 333xl and 6260 I've had them since they released the infinium thing, both still working no issues at all in all the years I've owned then , I also own Peavey's and engl and Marshall and I can tell bugera stand up to those no problem.
I had a 333XL and loved it! The only reason I got rid of it was my back hurt from hauling it 🤣
Thing weighs a ton
Daaaaaaaamn that's probably the best tone I've heard from a guitar with active pickups :)
I'm usually much more of a passive guy but for some reason with the 333XL these EMGs sound really good!
I own a bunch of vintage & boutique amps, but I also own a Bugera BC-30. I picked it up on close-out and have been impressed. It looks like a Matchless DC-30, but it plays & sounds closer to a Vox AC-30(with a different preamp control). It sits in my office at home for when I feel the need to fire up and play during the day. It was an incredible value for the quality as it's got a lot of hours on it with zero problems.
Yes the Tri-rec was an awesome amp. Totally hand wired had 2 tube rectifiers and a solid state rectifier. Very versatile. Why they dont make them anymore has got me.
They got sued by Mesa
Great review! Just a advise: the "microphonic" buttom might be because ot the tubes. When they are poorly fitted they do that sound. I believe that what caused this may have been the transport. If I'm right, just open the amp and fit the valves better.
Thank you for providing the historic reference, this answered more for me than the actual review (which was fine). I'm not a musician but wanted a reasonably priced quality tube amp. Went in to heavy research mode for about a month and based on personal criteria began focusing on the bugera t50 infinium. I ran across a number of "reviews" that came to similar conclusions as yours. They seemed to begrudgingly acknowledge the pros while grasping for cons. One reviewer touched on about 7 aspects of the amp, begrudgingly acknowledged 5 positives, pointed out that the 2 negatives would likely be mute points given everyone's taste for pedals, acknowledge the low price point and still gave a "would not recommend". I even commented asking "If it's budget priced and has all going for it that you said, what did I miss," Reply: "I just don't like it."
Since most of the reviews were positive, I made the purchase. I am VERY HAPPY with mine! I will likely never be able to push this amp anywhere near it's limits. But knowing some musicians that could push this amp, I would not be ashamed to pull it out if they wanted to play. It's not about the musicians being "snooty", practiced musicians can "feel" the poor action on a keyboard, they can hear subtle differences, etc.
You're video was the only one that gave some of the company's back story. I now believe that a lot of the negativity surrounding their produces is because of how their management is perceived and not due to something being lacking in their engineering.
Very usable. I think a positive way to think of these type of lucky-for-cheap find amps, is getting creative in using them in different parts, for layering/stacking etc. I use a pine box 1x12 I had built on a lazy Saturday, breaking every rule of cab making, and it's found it's way onto multiple tracks for cleaning picking parts. Just something about it - give em all a chance!
I've now had my Bugera 6260 for over 10 years and its still going strong. For what it is, (a Peavey knock off) it does the job I need it to.
Nasally sounding. It's about 3khz to 4khz, Most Eningeers call it the "Honky" zone. Most amps don't have any immediate means to pull it back. An Eq pedal, be it Parametirc or Semi-Parametric will help find it and shape it to your ears at the source. Getting it right at the Source is always the ultimate goal!
I own two. One is when they first came out and another two years later. All the tubes have been changed. One with JJ 6L6 the other has JJ EL-34 tubes. All preamp tubes are
Mesa boogie AX7's I've had to change resistors in the power section. If the treble is high, presence is low. I love them. But I also have a Lee Jackson XLS500 and a Mesa Boogie Stiletto. Custom slant 4x12 cabs. Lynchbacks on top, creambacks on bottom.
Exceptionally great offerings on the market form a price point perspective. Though I do agree with many that they’d benefit from having a resonance dial.
As for the microphonic issue. I’ve used a 333XL Infinium in the past and didn’t notice such a problem. It could be down to the tubes needing to be replaced as a couple of my other tube amps developed a similar issue with the tubes eventually failing within a few months. On that note, I understand that biasing isn’t needed with these Bugera amps and the Infinium versions improve upon reliability issues while also extending tube lifespan.
I replaced the "fixed" resonance resistor they have in the amp with a 1 MEG pot. Now I have a working Resonance control. It REEEEEAAALLLY makes a difference in the low end.
@@shawngraham4075 Great modification!
I had a 6062 for a couple of years, had a decent tone, never failed me and it’s really good for the price.
the only thing that failed on my 6262 was the power LED
The Amp sounds great imo. Can see why people say it's a hazard this thing is "fire"! 😆 nice tight and "warm" sounding amp even without the boost. Kind of reminds me of Devil drivers guitar tone 🤘
I owned this amp for 8 years. Sold it 2 years ago. I regret it. I had the 4-12 cab too. Also sounded good. Supposedly the 333 is a copy of the XXX and the 333XL is a copy of the XXX2 which I also think is the JSX amp. These amp get a bad name because the very first ones has a tube power connector the was clipped onto the board and it would vibrate and then eventually burn. People would then simply solder the wires to the pins on the board. I opened mine to find out they had remedied that by adding some glue to the connector. I never had a problem with mine. I didn't gig out with it but I used a Marshal power brake attenuator so I did push it a little bit. I also has the 6262 which sounded just like a 5150, 6505 clone. The clean was a lot brighter on the 6262 but I liked the sound of the 333XL more as I play heavy rock and not metal.
As an actual owner of a Bugera 1960 head (which is a Marshall 1959 SLP clone) I can verify several things; Bugera amps are well built. They sound great. They are reliable. I have been recording with mine constantly for the last year through a 2x12 and a Two Notes Captor X. Absolutely no issues with the amp. The 6262 and 333XL are both on my wish list. The infinium tube life tech makes it a no brainer, no more $350 for an amp tech every time a tube goes out.
Thanks for sharing!
Owner of 333XL here, that thing is brutal sounding out of the box.
I run it with a TS boost in front, dial back the gain, EQ in the loop and it marches alongside any recto or 5150 out there.
Getting ready to add a choke to the power tubes screens.
This amp is killer for the price or any price for that matter!
"for all you Clean dorks" LMFAO!!!!!
I had the 333 combo
For $300, you get a 3 channel 5150/6505 clone.
Not perfect, but it would scream.
It had the fault most of the amps had.
A high voltage jumper, coming off the power supply board, to the tube board, was connected with a cheap plastic housing.
The fitting would get hot, move around on the pin, and arc.
That potentially could kill the entire amp, depending on how far thru the circuit it got.
Mine just scorched the board, and I put in a less cheap part in.
Later I bought a Tri-Rec, for $400.
Ran it thru an oversized Mesa 4x12.
This is the closest Boogie Rectifier clone I have ever heard, at any price.
I'm an older dude, grew up playing almost exclusively Boogies from 1988 on.
I say with no hesitation, you cannot find a 100+ watt tube head that could even compete with the brutal tone this thing put out, for $400.
Then one day I turned it on, flipped the standby switch and-
Nothing. I bypassed the switch and-
Still nothing.
It has sat in my gear closet underneath many other amps I have blown up, or just got sick of for about 8 years now.
BTW, it's for sale!!!
Cheap!!!
I have an Infinium v22, nearly 6 years with zero issues. Cleans up and can give impression of a Fender Deluxe, drive it and can imply a Vox ACxx. Anyone looking for Marshall tones, as it sits won't get you there but with a Marshall pedal, gets close enough.
The fire situation was kind of 2 pronged. There was an issue with a type of clip that they used in the beginning, which they fixed quite early on. There was also a lot of issues with people who had never owned a genuine tube amp before and they did stupid things with it. I've owned this head for the better end of 7 years now and I've never experienced any issues with it as far as problems go. This amp is supposed to be somewhere between a JS1 and a XXX from Peavey. I've been able to get some really great tones out of it. Everything from wicked brutal distortion and some really great cleans and blues crunches. I've since moved on to a Mesa Mark V so I now use the Bugera as a back up but this has been a great amp for the price point if you want a genuine amp. I know many people opt for Amp sims nowadays and who can blame them. But as far as quality goes, after the initial issues which Bugera fixed, I haven't heard of anything fire related happening in years. (And I mean many years at that.)
I’ve been saying the same thing since these amps came out also, the clip wasn’t rated for the heat generated at that junction which was weak anyway and created what is called a hi joint (high resistance high heat). I own the 120 watt 333 pre infinium and the amp slays. Still have it to this day.
@@djritm3215 I truly love mine. I still use it. Wouldnt sell it for the world.
After the thumbnail I knew you were gonna keep a fire extinguisher in the shot. Great video. I have played one of these and they sound good in the room. I don’t know about recording.
I've used mine live and for recording for many years. Always sounded good....never any issues! But always good to make sure it's an Infinium model to be on the safe side!
Glad you liked it!
I have the TRIREC Infinium I love it. I have not had any issues with mine i have had it for a while now. I also have the 1960 Infinium That sucker is loud really loud.
I own one of these... well, NOT an infinium... I have done several mods to it... I removed the crap plastic molex connectors from the power transformer to the preamp board so I made it "fire safe" lol... in the preamp, I upped a few resistor values, close to Peavey Triple XXX values... then I changed the resistor in relation to the "XL" switches... it is MUCH more noticeable with the mod... not engaged, the lead channel reminds me of modded Marshall, with the "XL" engaged, it is very MESA like. thick, but not muddy. The initial crunch of the pick attack is much more prominent. Active pickups dont need a boost to have plenty of oomph... lastly, I removed the fixed "resonance" resistor and installed a Resonance pot... I use JJ E34L power tubes and Ruby HG 12ax7 preamp tubes... it truly sounds light years better than a stock 333xl, fo sho!
I have a buddy with a Bugera V22 combo. Great amp. I actually quite like it. Apparently the issues with Bugera amps catching fire predates the infinium technology branding, and is probably what lead to them creating the smart tube health tech to begin with. I'm also pretty sure you're right about the user error bit, and they likely created infinium to play it safe from a PR perspective.
I have two pre infinium 6260s. I like them, they're a hell of an amp for the money. One is stock and has been solid. The other had some issues and I modded it while it was torn apart. One of the pins on a power tube had to be isolated because the board had gone conductive and was causing that tube to runaway bias and red plate (I have a marshall jvm 210 that also had the same problem and fix) and it also had some broken solder joints that needed touched up. Construction is pretty much on par with other amps built in China.
One thing I've noticed across multiple bugeras is that you absolutely do NOT want to bias your tubes using the measurements in the bugera manual. For some reason bugera has people running their amps so hot it's no wonder some caught on fire. We're talking 90% dissipation and higher.
I seriously love your channel and demos I'm excited to see this one
I bought a 6262 back in like 2011, somewhere around there, brand new. Mine was one of the affected ones, which turned out to simply be bad quality molex connector pins (inferior quality metals in the pins that provided too much resistance, thus melting the molex connectors). I addressed this issue myself by removing the connectors and soldering the wires directly to the board. This fixed the problem. Funny story, when I got out of the band scene, I sold all my gear, including the amp. I had since bought a TriRec and at the time, didn't know how to dial it in so I thought it was crap (once I figured it out, it's a fantastic amp). But that was after I had found and bought another 6262 that was for sale locally on ebay from a pawn shop about 45 mins away. I got to looking at it and thought "is this my old amp??" after noticing a tear in the tolex in a specific spot. Then I saw the tubes, knowing those were also the same I had replaced...I opened it up and saw the repair I did, and finally confirmed it with the serial number that I originally registered with the company after I bought it. It had somehow come back home, albeit in far worse shape than when I had it, but nonetheless, the same amp.
They're great amps that sound fantastic. I'll never forget, we were playing a show out of state and this other band played before us, one of the guitarists was playing a Mesa half stack, nothing but big $ equipment. I was playing through an Avatar 4x12 with G12T-75's and V30's, like the Bogner Uberkab. I also had a couple of pedals for tone shaping, and I biased the amp myself slightly hot when I replaced all the tubes. The Mesa guy was blown away by my sound and made a point in telling me how much he loved my tone.
As for the 333XL, my lead guitarist played one and it was one I sampled in the store side-by-side to the 6262 and I just could _not_ get a sound I liked out of it. Even the store owner (small independent shop) said he didn't really like them and hadn't been able to get a good sound out of them either. But my lead guitarist seemed to like it for some reason.
I have an Infinium 333XL and always liked the way it sounds. It takes pedals very well. As far as your question of it being a good bang for the buck or a dumpster fire I think that just depends on the luck of the draw. Mine worked great for about 2 years the XL switches basically shattered when pushing them in. I believe the plastic becomes very brittle after time because this amp generates a lot of heat. Then when engaging the effects loop the tubes started making an extremely loud clicking noise. Replaced the tubes no difference, sounds like a machine gun. I don't feel the amp is worth sending in to repair.
9 years on mine and have never had a problem.
@@michaelkeudel8770 Which is exactly why I said luck of the draw.
@@z1g it was caught pretty early in the production run, but unfortunately some made it to store shelves by the time they discovered the issue.
@@michaelkeudel8770 What do you mean by "It" ?
@@z1g the first run of amps with the bad sockets.
I have a 1960 Infinium (modded Plexi clone) that I got in trade for a 412 that was only worth about $100 and it's phenomenal. Aside from great tone it is incredibly loud. Last gig I played my drummer said "my earplugs feel useless with this thing" which is what I like to hear. I almost always play it with volume on 7 and have had absolutely no issues thus far.
I hope the bad rep remains, it keeps the prices reasonable
dude i just bough an 1960 infinium to make it on steroids . do you think this is possible ? because i really do it is. so i want to send it to a amptech to get things right with proper connections also with better components. i really dont mind to spend some cash but i really believe its possible to achieve.
I owned like 40/50 amps in past years always buying and trading in used market. Had all. Oranges, Marshalls Fenders.. all. And I'm currently sold to Bugera Infiniums now. I own a T50 Infinium. Love the cage style lunchbox design cause of portability. 50 watts in only 10kg. Di out, cab sim, infinium auto bias and monitoring life health. class A/AB switch, reverb, tone cut, phat switch, 2 channels footswitchable, no bias adjustment, no pair matching, acepts el34 or 6l6. If a tube fails it shows wich one and you can replace just that one. Dont need to change the pair. All of that for a fair price... come on!. Its a great of a deal. Using for many months and always sounds as new with no issues. Cuts very well in a band. Want to talk about unreliable amps? Marshalls and Blackstars. They are becoming more and more shitty quality every serie. Peavey and Laney are solid construtions and tone. Very reliable. Fenders are ok too. But i'm very disappointed with Marshall. Unless you buy a high end model, chance are that they will disappoint you
My guess with that frequency you’re not digging is since you barely touching it at all makes it ping with the microphonic aspect, the vibrations from the cab when you’re playing are getting picked up too.
That's a great point, I didn't think about that. You are probably right!
Cool to see you get your hands on one of these! The other guitarist in my band had one of these around 2012. I really wanted to like it, but I had a Crate Blue Voodoo 120 and this just sounded muddy in comparison right from the factory. He changed the tubes, no help. After hearing this, I'm thinking that he got a bad one. You got a pretty great tone out of this and the string definition was still there. 🤘
Yeah, might have just been to aggressive cutting the highs, those knobs are so sensitive!
It's also possible your friend wasn't very good at dialing in his amp? Lol always a possibility and one people seem to forget to take into account
@@FulcrumsEdge Always good to consider all angles. Doubt it though. It was "what the hell is wrong with this thing" bad. We both noodled with it week after week during practice until he gave up and just started using it as a power amp. 🤷♂️
Got a modded Bugera JCM900 clone that is perfect. Sounds monstrous with a Fortin 33 and and my Solar 7 strings. Will use a Plumes OD (The green one) with active pickup guitars to compensate for the extra compression and already tight low end. My favorite tone however is still 515III with Fishman or EMG pickups. Just use a EQ pedal to tighten things up without coloring the sound.
hi dude , question; how you modded the bugera ? i have one bugera which i want to mod but first changing parts and have a proper look by an amp tech. do you still have yours?
fun video man! What about the noise gate tho, did it work?
Snap, you're right. It's fine... nothing super special. It doesn't cut the noise as much as it shelfs the top end.
The new ones are awesome and have all the bugs worked out. A friend who worked at Guitar Center said, he actually had one catch on fire on an early bugera amp on the demo floor.. Supposedly a customer was playing through it for about 20 minutes and paused to go to the restroom, but did not unplug and left it on.
The Bugera is a clone of the peavey jsx. I'm pretty suprised the tones you got from it. For an amp on marketplace for 400 I cant hate
Same!
Played many shows with a Bugera 1960 and was told several times out of all my rigs, the 1960 with pedals was the best tone. And I had PRS, Rivera, Fuchs and other boutique heads. It was 100% reliable too. Brand snobs looked down on me, that was the only negative.
Yyyyyeah... the cork sniffers DO get mad. Only because your tone sounded better than theirs and you only paid a few hundred for the amp. Lol
Owned a Non Infinium 6262 for years....gigged it for years with no issues. I replaced all the tubes with JJ preamp/Ruby power amp tubes. And I recently scored another 6262 head for virtually nothing. My only criticism is I wish we had got the resonance controls instead of reverb.
Quality vid, fella. Seen a few bands get decent sounds out these things, can't complain for the price point.
I need help my friend,Vypyr x2,fender mustang 212 or line 6 flextone 3,I played the Vypyr and wasn't impressed surprisingly...love to hear your opinion.thanks again👍🤘
I had 333xl and it is a XXX clone. It had it's issues, but nothing that wasnt easily fixable. I recall doing one small repair, but that was because someone broke the input jack, which is plastic...
My 6260 infinium head has just broken down for the 3rd time since 2016(new) ..it's never been misused,never been out of the house...and has very very few hours on it...just played through for short periods of time every now and then over the years ...mostly because it's so loud with a 4x12 cab ....repaired twice under warranty but of course now the warranty is long gone...I flipped it on last night to let the tubes warm up and noticed the jewel lights weren't on.. foot switch lights weren't on either...I said well let's see what the deal is now,so flipped the standby switch up and power tubes immediately went from an orange glow to a bright blue glow getting brighter and brighter to the point of looking like they wanted to blow like a light bulb...started a slight humming noise and I said nope I don't feel like unloading a fire extinguisher all over my jam room so I cut it off and that was that...have no idea what's up with it but I guess it's going to some kind of amp shop...I guess I'll email music group first just to see what they say...I always bragged on Bugera when others shit on them but now I may change my tune...I mean the amp has barely been used and very very lightly at that.
Daaaaaaangit! I enjoyed the heck out of all of this. I've got my eyes on a 333 (but it's not a 333XL) for only $200 USD. After a smidge of research I now see that the xl has the noise gate, different tubes and the lack of XL buttons. Bummed about the lack of noise gate but for the price it's worth a shot. Killer demo!
I have some Bugera infinium models. The 333xl infinium and the 6262 infinium. They never caught on fire but several years ago for about a three week period during the summer they were picking up am radio stations. I kid you not. You wouldn't hear it while I was playing but when I quit playing you'd hear the radio station. I have no clue how that happened and it was only for that short period of time. But hey when I needed a break from playing I could tune in to some Sports Talk Radio. Let's see the Mesas, Peaveys and Engls top that.......
Check out the Trirec Infinium. I think it sounds a lot better. Doesn’t have that nast spike in the high end that you don’t like lol.
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That thing is a monster! \m/
I have the bugera 3xl and its a great amp. Switched the tubes out when i got it because it fizzed alot but now its good to go! Also have the 6262 infinium and its a great budget clone to the 5150 alternative.
The xl is a jsx clone, has noise gate and boost. The 333 regular head has no noise gate, has a dampening switch on the back, and is modeled after the triple x.
I figured that was the case, thanks for letting us know!
@@TaylorDanley try runn8ng a modeler or preamp pedal in the fx loop. I run a kartakou colossus rack preamp through the return and it sounds awesome.
I have a bugera 333 xl (not infinium) that I bought used more than 10 years ago ... exploited for years and concerts and in all this time I had only one problem, a blown diode (20 cents) in the power section. and we all know that tube amplifiers are delicate ... i think like all things it goes a bit to luck. another guy i know has a 333, in more than 10 years never a problem. in conclusion i think with good maintenance are a good deal, especially used, for a good budget rig
Yeah, I don't think you can go wrong with one. Especially on a budget.
God damn, that TONE!!!!!!!
Also the boosted Lead channel with the XL switch = HM-2 city
It does get into hm2 territory doesn’t it? 🤣
had a 333 from 2008 . got it used.. heavily.. but its original valves were there and working fine.. it sounded great. i only sold it bcs i ordered the iconic and had a backup jcm800 clone.. i couldnt justify owning so many big amps.. i might buy another 333 one day again tho.
I've had one for about two years then sold it biggest mistake of my life never had any problems with it and the tone you get out of this amp is very unique not only does it do modern metal it just has this tone I've never got from any other amp
Good news. They’re super cheap and available everywhere lol
Any machine is an incendiary device if you misuse it right.
Scored one of these bad boys for 200 with a 2x12 bugera cab. It’s a friggin champion
Just picked one up 2nd hand, it rocks love it, just wish I can find the pedal to switch channels, but it rocks
I have 6262 Infinium, it suits my needs
I own one since 2010. It never let me down and does not have that microphonic issue. Instead it produces a small "hum", like transformer hum.
I agree about that mid hi freq that is annoying.
The only reason I don't use it nowadays is becaus it does not have midi or ctrl for channel switch. A shame.
A (US) friend of mine used my Bugera 6262 for a 2 month tour in Europe. 46 shows, no problems. Original tubes still in there.
Dude that fire smoke looked so real at first lol
We’ll as the fire thing goes it didn’t blaze into a inferno like you would think. The mother board just smoked and than pretty much would be useless. This happened to a band mate back in the day. Funny thing was he got a crate blue voodoo and still uses it to this day with a Marshall cab. Your last two videos have definitely brought back a lot of memories of the early 2000’s
I have a bugera 6262. 1st gen. I had a wire plug connector melt and amp stopped working. After about 10years of sitting. I opened it up and soldered the wires directly to the board. Been playing it flawlessly for a while now.
Yeah my bugera 333 had the power transformer connector melt.
I had to solder the cables directly to the board
Yep, a friend had that same model and it burns in a middle of a gig where I was the mixing engineer hahahah
Great amp, great sound, but a little weird thing with the electricity...
I picked up a Bugera Trirec half stack with no tubes in the head for $300 a couple months ago. Got some tubes in it and replaced some of the fuses and it sorta kicks ass... the cab is dull sounding but the head into my engl cab, its a pretty freaking sweet head. The Trirec also uses infinium tech. This amp won't replace my evh but it is well suited as a backup.
I used to own a Bugera 333XL 212 combo before it was stolen from me. Aside from the stock speakers being mud, it was exactly the amp i wanted...until it broke. The newer Infinium amps are fine, but the amps made before the Infinium line came out had problems (not as major as rumored, but problems) and mine was no exception with something in the power section popping and letting out the magic smoke. I remember when i bought it, i'd posted on the old Rob Chapman forum that i was looking for something "American high gain" sounding for cheap and one of the mods pointed me to the 333XL-212 which was only $350 at the time. I got my $350 out of it and then some, and deeply wish that A: I knew how to maintain tube amps so it wouldn't have broken, and B: that it wasn't stolen before i could get it fixed
The JSX and XXX are almost identical, and Bugera made clones of both. The 333 is a clone of the XXX and the 333XL was a clone of the JSX (The Bugera having the XL buttons and the Peavey having FAT switches, both being low mid boosts)
I owned one of the models that was supposed to blow up but it never blew up. Apparently playing guitar in your bedroom from 1:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. at incredibly low volumes is not very demanding on an amp. It probably did catch fire with the next owner though. He used it for practice in a non-air conditioned Barn / practice space.
Hi. I've owned one of these (212 combo version) since they first appeared. The only issue I have experienced is the status light for the standby switch stopped working in the first month, this had no effect on the operation of the amp. The power and standby lights on my amp are blue and not red...meh.
I recently changed the preamp valves (12 mths ago). The replacement valves were apparently a higher gain valve. In a practical sense this means that using the high gain input of the clean channel, along with HB pickups, resulted in an early AC/DC tone (nice). This was not the case with the OEM valves. Unfortunately, this also meant that lower gain crunch tones are a bit harder to achieve with finessing the gain knob.
I also dialed back the PRESENCE knob-40%.
I've found the clean channel to be a bit of a gem. I play a Godin Solidac (HSH) and find that I get a remarkably wide range of tones from the channel. I find the channel has a warm "woody", high percussive "knock" to it, if that makes sense. The BASS and TREBLE knobs on the CLEAN channel are very reactive but I find the MID control very subtle, so much so that sometimes I wonder if it is actually working (it does). Makes a good pedal platform.
The amp is LOUD (120w). I also have a Boss Katana 100w head and there is NO comparison in tone nor volume, but at least my crusty old man's back doesn't squeal like a little bitch at the thought of lugging it. 🤣
Overall I'm happy with the amp and my decision to buy. I've recorded with it, both mic'd and using IRs, and it sounds great (to my ears). For context I spent just over 20 years playing professionally (Aussie Pub rock/metal bands averaged 3 to 4 gigs a week) and owned Marshalls (valvestate 212 and 2 JCM 800 heads), Fender (Solid state?), MesaBoogie (Cal50+), Engl (Screamer50), Laney (AOR? 100w valve) and Peavey (Bandit Special 120).
Great that we live at a time when you can buy a half way decent valve amp without the need to sell a kidney or two.
Retube this with the high gain kit from euro tubes. 6L6 makes the amp much better. Also the FX Loop knobs affect the tone. Best to have them set to 12 in the back.
Stock tubes are cheap trash.
I watched several of the pre infinium ones smoke out in the middle of playing. The power boards would short out across the power tube sockets or the plastic clips inside that carried too much voltage that shorted out
Just pulled the trigger on a bugera tri-rec, waiting for it to get here. Needless to say I'm pumped.
I own the Tri-rec and the 333, no fires yet. I did have to send the 333 in for new tubes shortly after purchase but they were covered under warranty. No problems since the repair. I drive the hell out of it and it continues to perform as expected.
My 6262 combo has held up for almost a decade with little to no issues. The only reason I’m debating selling it, is that it’s too loud and newer amps have built in controls to reduce power.
I sometimes use attenuator with my 6262. Just to tame the lead channel. The clean crunch doesn't need it. And the 333xl is the best quiet amp.
my bugera333xl with el3 tubes works great but I also have a bugera 333 with 6gl tubes and it gets real hot and the reverb and the fx loop does glitch after being on a while!! but I love em"
Not a bad amp at all. I used it for 7-8 years, then I bought the original one, Peavey JSX for 400€. Well, sorry for the Bugera friends, but the sound of JSX is on another level. Bugera sounded always a bit "weak" and "distant". JSX sound instead is a wall.
I have three Bugera amps: A 6262, a V55 HD, and a V22 Combo. I love them. They sound great. In fact I sold my Marshall 1987X Plexi because it just became such a one trick pony for me.
Dude that fiff at 2:45 is a banger \m/
I bought a 6260 from the used market once, worked in the rehearsal room. The second I got home, it didn't work anymore
Are you using a pedal to get the heavy tones from the Amp I r are you just plugged into the front of the head, and what effects do you use. Mitch
I've had mine for 12+ years. It was one of the first Infinium models, so no fires ;) In fact, I've never had a days problem with it (never been microphonic either, must be a bad tube you have somewhere). All I've ever had to do was change a set of power tubes about 8 years in. Still on my second set that works fine. I think it's a fantastic amp ..& not just for the price. You can get some absoutely killer tones out of it... from OSDM to 80's metal & shred..
My favorite amp next to the Trirec Infinium 🤘
I can't tell you how many bugera amps I have fixed for this issue back when they 1st came out. Not bad amps actually, after those spade connectors are removed
Great video, I have a mate who has that exact amp and swears by it. I have a Bugera 6262 Infinium that I picked up for cheap second hand a few years ago and it sounds great, zero complaints although these days I'm more reliant on digital (Kemper or Helix) for rehearsing and recording.
I had a 333xl for a couple years. Great amp. I finally got my hands on a Bugera Trirec. It is a beast of an amp. Extremely good mesa clone tone. I use my Trirec for most of my videos if anyone is interested in the variety of tones it can produce. Very good effects loop. And at 120w extremely loud
Got mine 'not working' for peanuts. hardwired the ribbon cable to the power tube board and had no probs since. Too easy!
Does this have EL34s in the power section? A lot of reviews I see of the JSX say that swapping 6L6GC tubes into the power section kills that nasal honk in the treble/high mids. My personal experience agrees - I like my JSX way better with 6L6s in there. I like this a lot more than the XXX (or plain 333) because of the versatility of separate Presence/Resonance controls and less apeshit crazy Ultra Channel.
It comes stock with EL34s
@@RiffWraith yep but when you buy used you never know what you're gonna get. I got a used XXX combo from GC with KT77s in it. Have also gotten several used amps from them with burnt out power tubes so it's a crapshoot 😅
😂 Agreed 💯
Oh, that's interesting! It did have EL34's... something I should have mentioned in the video 🤦♂️
I got 2xJJ KT77s on my 333xl, bought new just before Infinity-models.
I own one since nearly 10 years now. Sounds and plays great! But i prefer the LOW-Input for a warmer sound.
there is also a cheap clone of the tri rec very hyped back then but it lacks quality big time even so dangerous that they had to took it out of the marked for that reason.. sound and price was ok!
Bugera had a trirec model. This is a Peavey JSX/XXX clone
@@robbyrayrosellothats just what i said 🤷
I currently own a 333 Infinium (not an XL) and it’s phenomenal, pretty much indistinguishable from a XXX. It’s a little tricky to dial in with the active EQ, but nothing crazy. I also had a 1990 Infinium that I sold almost 10 years ago, and it was a good amp but not particularly my style. I think Bugera had a bit of a QC problem in the early days which they fixed (as far as I know), but the reputation still plagues them to this day.
I've tried a couple of bugera amps before and wasn't blown away by them. One was one of their mini heads, one was the 5150 clone, and the other was a combo amp, and there wasn't anything bad about them, necessarily, they just didn't wow me. This one seems pretty cool. I hear the Bugera models with the Infinium technology are the ones that address the issue previous models had with reliability and the burning.
Bugera never made a mini 5150 clone. Ever. I wish they did because I'd buy it
The first couple sets of amps that shipped where terrible. But the quality control has improved alot since then. I dont own one. Never have. Just have spoken to a bunch of people who have had them.
I have 2 old blue gem 6262s. The combo and the head. Both have been absolute work horses.
I like how the ampeg... video he showed me some amps you may want to crank all the way up and work your way down instead of the normal inverse.
This shape of the guitar is so fucking evil in the coolest way possible.
this was in the beginning .(blue lights) , the newer infinum (yellow lights) have fixed all these smal problems , the bugera amp are good , they are all copies from Peavey line ,
5:38 I thought you were starting to play Here and Now by the Ernie’s 😂