Indeed. Now apply this level of transparency to all of human history, where we weren't being recorded and most everyone had areas to bury or discard unwanted infants. There's cultural reasons built into Japan for infanticide, among other cultures, specifically because babies die and/or cannot be taken care of. Time to be extra grateful for the systems we do live in, from morality to social networks that can help care for babies.
@@jodiforeman3314 imagine these detectives have to go home to their family knowing this kind of stuff and they can't/don't want to confide with their loved ones. I really hope all detective get free therapy for what they see
Especially if audience can pick up on the shock everyone else must have felt... to tell the story from the account of the roomie who found the baby... no one is going to ever talk about how she's probably going to have night terrors, spend thousands crying and weeping in therapy, affect her and her future kids and partners life, etc. Where is her justice
No water more importantly, no love or comfort. As not to confuse anyone else when I say water, I mean hydration. Formula has water even breastmilk. Dehydration happens quickly in newborns.
@@sammanthaford3982 She didn’t intend to surrender her anywhere or she would’ve. She thought if she kept partying and not getting prenatal care that this baby would be stillborn like the first one but when that didn’t happen she just let her starve. She NEVER intended for that baby to live.
You would think she would've learned from her own horrible childhood. Instead she out did her mother and did worse. Apple didn't fall far from the tree at all, shit the apple is still hanging on... Smh 😢
Imposing life on a child that did not give consent to life isn’t “mercy”…. It’s a life sentence. It’s only mercy if you believe that life is good. And that’s fine. But you shouldn’t make those choices for others. If the child you bring into the world doesn’t think life is good - then you’re actually the arsehole, aren’t you?
She's extremely self-centered with absolutely no empathy. She did not regard her own baby as a human being who can suffer until death from dehydration and starvation. She murdered her daughter passively. Passive or active, it's still 1st degree murder. I'm glad she won't have the possibility of parole until she hits menopause, when she cannot get pregnant again. As a mother, I cannot imagine doing that to a baby or a child. She's the one who's not human.
@@NineNineOne While I agree that it isn't so clear-cut, I do want to point out that the decision whether or not you want to be alive is one you cannot make until you have reached a certain level of development that allows you awareness. An infant doesn't have that yet, and by cutting their life short, you take away their freedom of choice. If you feel you have brought a child into a terrible world that brings mostly misery, the most ethical course of action to me would still be to put the child up for adoption and give it a fair chance to be raised by loving people as their own who may instill a joy for life into your child that you yourself could never do. If it fails, it is up to your child to decide life is not worth living and step out if they so desire. That would not have constituted a crime, either, and for good reason. However, I will say that perhaps her own youth has been so bad that she lost faith in adoption as a viable solution, and she may have actually intended her own actions as a mercy. With that being a plausible explanation - though no excuse, obviously - I would argue she is not necessarily a horrible monster, but she sure violated a lot of written AND unwritten rules of our society.
Perhaps her life has been hell and she knew putting the baby in the system would be giving the baby the same life. This is what happens when children have children.
@@MFnMelaroni so they didnt find it odd at all or think twice at all that a random "fake" baby shows up in their room outta thin air? theyre not victims they're negligent dumbasses
I 100% get how strange it seems that the roommates didn't immediately react, then went to sleep until the next morning. But, I'm sure it's one of those things that are so extremely shocking and bizarre that your brain wouldn't even immediately comprehend it COULD even be legitimate.
I feel bad for the girls who are forced to live in this place-- it seems deeply unsanitary, from the staff's person rooms to the communal spaces. The fact that people are finding pieces of "flesh" that get eaten by dogs and the body of a baby that no one calls the police over for two days makes me feel like these "troubled teens" are in a deeply unhealthy and unsafe environment.
I know someone who got sent to one of a “ Christian home for troubled girls”. All it really was, was getting free work on the guys farm. They never sent the girls to school. They worked on the farm all day, straightening up the house and going to church on Sunday. It was finally shut down. Every time I hear about one of those “schools” I think of the person who was sent away instead getting real help.
Exactly! I found out i was pregnant at 12 days pregnant & that is the day i quit heroin. My whole life and existence changed fir the better. My priorities & reason for everything was to be healthy for our son & get EVERYTHING ready for his delivery & life. I stacked up 9 months of diapers ,had so much clothing & new blankets, a stroller,carseat,baby Bjorn body carrier & a bassinet & crib & cute night lights....everything is for our son. Now he is 10. I just can't understand this female. She is psychotic.
A 22 year old woman, who had been successfully adopted as a baby, letting her own baby starve to death, then crying that she wants HER mom (to comfort her). Wow
Yeah like why didnt she give her baby the same chance that she had? If she didnt want to he a mother she had so many options but she chose the worst way out
The comment and the response say more about how little how you guys don't know how trauma works. And this is something that we can learn to address our situation and prevent harm others in other levels. She basically don't feel capable to have it. 0 skill on emotional or resolution and never addressing trauma was the perfect storm for this disaster. I hope she suffer because is horrible but the human part of people neglect her in the beginning and escalated to this is horrible in their own way. I don't get it why this channel don't educated. They repeat the obvious and 0 real analysis from reals professionals. Then you have the morbid crime fans or people like me that work in this field and watch this to have more perspective.
We need to talk more about this cabin she was at... No one knows what a pregnant girl looks like, she had flesh in the bathroom and they took a picture of it and didn't call the police, after some people speculating that she was pregnant they found a dead baby in HER room and they thought it was fake and didn't call 911, a dog ate a flesh remains, MULTIPLE PEOPLE heard a baby crying and didn't call the police,.... THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY!!!
I blame it on very young people living/working there who have life issues and little experience. So, they hesitate out of fear and uncertainty. There's a lack of supervision by older people. Their faith teaching inhibits their thinking and gives them no options how to deal with this situation without fearing punishment. A recipe for tragedy
“Maybe she’s not meant to live” what do you MEEAAAAN. She is alive! You created her, you gave birth to her, she is alive and breathing in your closet! The only reason she didn’t live is because of you!!!
I really felt that when the detective said, “You let her starve so your life wouldn’t be affected”. That’s what it boils down to with this vile repugnant adult child. 😢
Makes me physically ill. I shouldn’t have watched this. We just lost our 3 month old son to SIDS 3 weeks ago. It’s just not fair. Disgusting evil women like this treat their precious children like they’re worthless garbage and I’m sitting over here wishing I could trade places with mine. This “woman” is a monster. I just can’t even think about what this little angel went through, the suffering💔… I hope this sweet little girl is up in heaven playing with my son and all the other babies gone too soon. Life just isn’t fair.
@lolo-nn4vm Heavenly Father, lift up the precious infant who passed away from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). We pray for comfort and strength for the family and loved ones who are grieving this unimaginable loss. Lord, we trust in your perfect plan and know that this sweet soul is now resting in your loving embrace. We pray that you grant peace and understanding to those who are struggling to make sense of this tragedy. May your presence be felt in their lives as they navigate through this difficult time. We also pray for all the parents and families who have lost a child to SIDS. May they find solace in knowing that their little ones are now safe in your arms, free from any pain or suffering. May your love and grace surround us, especially during times of grief and loss. And may we find comfort in knowing that you are always with us, holding us in your everlasting arms. In Jesus' precious name we pray, Amen.
@high-bi-password Most states still have abortion rights. It's state by state. Stop listening to MSM lies. I don't even know of a single state that has completely outlawed all abortions.
@high-bi-password NOBODY FORCED HER TO CARRY HER PREGNANCY!! she wasn't denied any abortion, she had every opportunity to do that if she wanted to, her boyfriend drove her to the hospital but could've at any time drove her to go get an abortion you talk about, you people and your garbage about abortion rights are insane, at what point was she ever denied a f***ing abortion?!?! Your "right" to murder(abort) your baby is and has and unfortunately always will be available...but nice try🤦♀️
@@amusedBYfoolsOh don't even. Even her bf said her parents asked when they were having kids! Just like she said she'd lose her job when obviously other girls worked there that had babies!
i feel for you and your wife. What a shame that women like the one in this video don't even think about how happy they could make others if they would give their unwanted child for adoption. Instead she kept on drinking heavily and let that poor baby starve. I wish your and your wife the best and I do hope you both stay strong together. Of course I hope for your wish to come true - one way or the other!
The girl that heard the baby crying experienced far more compassion and grief than the baby's own mother. That poor girl will have to live with the guilt of 'if only' for the rest of her life. You could hear the heartbreak in her voice.
@@musicfan2010100 Which is sadly because other people are so quick to judge. And also, because sometimes the law doesn't go in favour of the person defending themselves/others (getting charged for manslaughter when you were defending yourself, or getting charged for criminal damage for breaking into somewhere that your concerned about).
This is such a disturbing case. She couldn’t take the baby to a fire station or hospital??? Instead she let that poor baby starve to death? Intentional cruelty. She’s a horrible human being.
@@animallover9037Intentional cruelty is different from neglicence. She was negligent. She didn't dangle the baby by its feet and laugh as it cried. She couldn't have coped with that, so instead she pretended it didn't exist. Never happened.
@@animallover9037it’s so strange. She gave her water with a cup but there were baby bottles in the apartment. She was gonna lose her job for having a baby, but two co workers took care of their babies on campus, her bf was gonna be upset but he wanted a kid, her family was gonna be upset, but they wanted a grandchild? And she’s getting drunk the whole pregnancy? So strange.
This is one of the most disturbing cases I’ve heard, solely because I can imagine how much pain and suffering her poor baby went through, hungry and thirsty, no nappies just left to lay in her mess for hours and hours on end till mom comes back. This is the stuff of nightmares, she tortured that baby.
The ending really got me. That poor child was just feet from formula bottles, a warm crib, and a chance to live. Instead, all she got was one of the most selfish "mothers" to ever live. Disgusting.
She probably wasn’t allowed to have contraceptives and this is the result - girls having babies they don’t want, having to hide it from everyone… I feel sorry for her having to grow up like this, being so brainwashed by religion she’d rather let her baby die, than have anyone find out that she’s having se# outside marriage.
None of that has anything to do with "faith". She didn't want the baby to get in between her and her mans life. Plain and simple. If you think "faith based" automarically means doesn't end well, you live in a biased mind. Far worse and far more cases happen outside of "faith" as you say.
@Jebbreh Guess I struck a nerve. 😉 There are other safer, saner ways to prevent an unwanted child from being born, or stop a baby from "getting in the way" of one's life, but Christian brainwashing prevents considering them. As does being in a total institution environment like the camp where even speaking of such alternatives is forbidden, let alone trying to access them with limited funds, support, knowledge and transportation. Your comment only proves my point.
You know nothing about religion My sister was pregnant before mariage and what did we do? Nothing, she has a beautiful son and a daughter. You accuse religious people of brainwashing, ironic. People choose to be a-holes and religion has nothing to do with it. If it was fear due to religion, she wouldn't have done what she did, because last time I checked ending a life is worse than having a baby out of wedlock. Also she chose to abandon the baby instead of actually dealing with the situation.
Yes!! That’s exactly what you should have done! Do I take her to the ER? YESSS!! That’s exactly what you do! What am I missing? She knew what to do, but she DIDNT
This detective is a hero. Until now I never looked at their work the way he put it, being the voice of those who died because there's nobody else to speak for them. He fought hard for that poor nameless baby and got justice.
It's too late. Anyone could have been a hero to raise a concern in time or raise a child semi-properly. The real parents of the murderer; the coworkers, the cohabitants that have seen the signs of the pregnancy. What about the boyfriend who haven't noticed the _second_ pregnancy?
Yeah, I don’t understand that part either. Look at the filth she lived in. What a great example for the girls she was supposed to be helping even WITHOUT what they know now😒
She is crying, but not because she lost a baby, but because she got caught. Bringing the baby to a hospital, giving up her so a loving couple could adopt her would be the right thing to do. Why she didn't wanted to do it? She didn't wanted to caught and go to jail.
Except she wouldn't have gone to jail if she gave up the baby. There would be no further consequences. That was the safe route to go. But because she was misinformed about the 48 hours instead of 72, and because her "acting sick" didn't convince her boss to send her home, she didn't find an opportunity to. All in the name of that stupid religion she was raised to believe in. Her boyfriend saying her family would have welcomed a grandchild is absolute nonsense. They would have dropped her like a brick. Religion works that way.
@RacingPepe Oh please, her parents were asking her and the boyfriend when they were going to have children. She wasn't working 24 hours a day. Hospitals are open 24/7 she could have dropped the baby off before work.
@@RacingPepe you’re trippin. You don’t know her parents and what their thoughts were on the situation. This girl is a monster. Period. End of story. She did NOTHING for that poor baby. Absolutely NOTHING…
All those females that live in the cabin are disgusting. Not smelling a dead baby, seeing a dead mummified baby and going to bed afterwards, picking up a piece of flesh and raking pictures of it and letting a dog eat it. Absolutely nasty women.
So, she went bike riding but couldn't drive an extra 20 mins and drop off her baby anonymously? She had all the information. So many couples and families would love a newborn. One phone call, ONE!
It sounds like they couldnt believe that it was real. They just couldnt process it. I mean, who would find something like that and immediatly know "Oh wow this is an actual mummified human baby in my roommate's room." I would also think it was fake. But after some thinking, I would start to wonder.
Right! I was just saying this to myself. Absolute hypocrisy and delusion. I can't even imagine people out there existing that do these types of things. Heartbreaking 💔
Same with the girl who heard crying but chalked it up to a ringtone or computer sound. She sounded heartbroken when she realized after the face and it was too late. That has to be nerve-wracking to know you had the chance to save that baby. Ugh
@@sweetie523I can only imagine they’ll live with a heavy ‘If only’ on their shoulders. Of course, it isn’t their fault at all… but I know how I’d feel.
Been watching this with my earphones with my little girl fast asleep next to me.. how anyone could treat another person, adult like this let along a baby.. and innocent child, your own baby! Truly disturbing, thank you again EWU crew for another educational video! ❤
@amusedBYfools building a case against a woman who admitted on camera, after she agreed to talk without a lawyer, that she let her newborn daughter starve to freaking death.... yea, you're goofy for sure!
@@amusedBYfoolsShe accepted talking to him without an attorney, if you were paying attention, genius. It's more sad that YOU sympathize with this "young girls" desperation of escaping motherhood because she's too selfish, sick, and proud, and cares only about what benefits her life. She's not a young girl and even most "young girls" would not starve their baby and find a way to get help..... desperation= give up for adoption (she had the idea but did not follow through and drop her off at safe haven), or give to a family member, not starving and torturing an innocent being for 4 days. There are zero excuses for her. She even had the resources. stop making excuses for these monsters, you're thinking like one too.
Yup same here have headphones in with my two daughters next to me I had absolutely no one had to go to a domestic violence shelter when I had my oldest theirs no excuse.. oh and i was 5 years younger than her.
She knew about safe drop sights, she’s a product of adoption, she had months to prepare or make a plan. She killed her baby, because like, it was like, too hard like, you know.
She was scared because of her religious family, job, etc. Religious extremists make women feel shame about having sex and becoming pregnant. I blame the religion, not this poor young woman
@@trentonscismYou can admit religion is a factor without absolving her of literal infanticide. She found the time to go to a hospital to give birth, not under a deck like she said, which means she had the time to surrender her baby.
To advocate for available abortion. For available birth control to every female (like, actual female, not trans). To have real medical care and real medical education for women despite whatever religious consequences that state or community that imposes. AND to perhaps keep investigators from this job to leave it to people that actually have blood in their veins and pumping through their heart and brain...unlike this fuck. If you don't think this person was extremely affected, you're brainless, if don't think this person was going through a real HELL, you're heartless and emotionally dumb too. This entire situation was handled horribly. The justice system handled this just as immaturely as the young woman did. When states make a woman's right to her own body secondary to the rights of someone else, whether their life depends on her body or not, we will always have these completely avoidable tragedies. This is so fucked up.
I remember hearing a story from reddit . A family in England had bought a house that was a nunnery about 300-400 years ago. While some repairs/renovations were being done they found a bunch of skeletons of newborns hidden behind one of the walls.
@@lindseyarnold1586 not all birth parents are good: case in point ☝️ Good lard! At least there would have been a chance but it’s hard to say with these religious conservatives. Shasta is very rural and conservative. I live in the next county.
Poor baby girl. You died not ever experiencing any love, not even any care. There's one teared up RUclipsr out here that your short, tragic life has touched. I'm thinking about you with love in my heart. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
So let me get this straight. These young women work with troubled teens, and one has killed her baby and the other two "didn't know what to think" of the baby's body, so they just went back to bed. I hope this program for troubled teens has been shut down. What a horrible place!
Couldn't believe what I was hearing they just ignored the smell and was able to sleep with the horrific sight fresh in their mind absolutely disgusting
It's faith based lol. Due to the recent serious of events in the US I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more places like this start to pop up. You're right though, terrible places these are
The problem I have with her, it’s her age, she’s an adult, a young working woman that already had a baby before. She stated how devastating it was for her boyfriend, when they lost their newborn baby, which means he was happy to be a father together with her and wanted to have the family they’d desired. So, the excuse for not telling him about her second pregnancy doesn’t make sense, together they had months to prepare for the baby’s birth. And if marriage was important for her job, they could’ve married at the city hall. That’s again it’s another excuse that doesn’t make sense,she knew when her coworkers had their babies, they had their babies with them at work. She could’ve continued her job, and had her baby girl with her, as well. She was too old for her to use her parents as an excuse, especially when her boyfriend said they were always asking them when was she having a baby. When they kept the first pregnancy a secret from her parents, he couldn’t understand why, when her parents wanted a grandchild from them. Again, she used another excuse that doesn’t make sense, because she knew her parents would have lovely welcome her baby girl in their arms and spoiled her as all loving grandparents do it to all their babies. She was 23 years old, she wasn’t a young teenager, although she talked like a teenager. She had a boyfriend who loved her, and wanted to be a father, so she was not alone without any kind of help from her relationship. She chose not to let him know about his second living baby for days, she had time to talk to him and ask him for help with their baby girl. But, she chose to leave her baby alone for hours, crying, screaming and slowly dying of hunger, that’s cruel. I’d to write it down for my brain to comprehend her intentions at the time, by her actions it shows she had no intention of being a mother to the poor baby girl, she didn’t even had chosen a name for her baby during her pregnancy. Something so special and important for a mother to be, taking time to choose the precious baby name. When the baby is born and placed on our arms, (if we were the ones giving them birth or if they were given to us, but brought to us by another mother that carried them when we couldn’t), we look at them and feel a type of love that only a mother can understand, it’s different from all other loves we have experienced in this world. She had the ability and knowledge to take the baby to safety and she chose to let her baby die, instead of taking her to the hospital, a neighbor’s house, a firehouse, call 911 for help instead of having a baby fall on the ground during the night, outside and alone when the baby was born, why, the only sad answer that it’s difficult for our hearts to accept, she didn’t want her baby, and she used all types of excuses to ignore the truth. What did she do with the placenta? She knew what she had to do when the baby is born, the umbilical cord was broken when the baby fell to the ground. She put herself in danger of bleeding from the uterus the way the baby was born. Now, I understand why she’s in prison for life, I’ve seen teenagers in the past take the same actions before and after pregnancy and the baby was found later dead, but they didn’t get life in prison. One case was unbelievable, because the teen mom didn’t get any harsh punishment for killing the newborn baby. She didn’t want the baby, she didn’t love her baby, she knew she could have taken the baby to a safe place in her city, she knew about it by working with troubled teens, it’s hard to comprehend her actions. She destroyed everything she was trying to keep by making terrible decisions in her life. Please, if you are or you know someone in the same situation, don’t make the same mistakes and poor decisions as her. Tell someone about your situation, don’t be afraid of what you don’t know or cannot control. Sometimes people’s reactions are different than theirs words, situations are different from one another. Your parents may be helpful and they might be there for you, they might have an idea of a place where disparate couples have their names in long lists for adoption. Or a couple from work, a cousin in their family that cannot get pregnant, miracles happen every day. Sometimes our mistakes can make us feel we are in the worst situation ever in our lives and we are completely helpless and alone. We are not, we have a loving Father in Heaven that is always there for us, it’s up to us to make the first step and humbly pray for His love, forgiveness, help, guidance, and show our gratitude for all His blessings and miracles in our lives. He will help you through your journey. Believe in Him and know there’s nothing a loving parent won’t do for his children, imagine what our Celestial Father would do for us.
her room is DISGUSTING. that alone should’ve been a red flag. how can she be employed by a troubled girls camp when she was clearly still insanely troubled? she had no business working there and neither do the girls who saw the infant and chose to go to bed instead of reporting it immediately.
My God, the phone interview with the lady that heard the baby crying is heart wrenching. That poor woman will feel guilt over something that was absolutely not her fault, probably for the rest of her life. My heart breaks for her.💔
@@HeatherL7290you didn't hear about the drinking? See the obvious chaos that was her room? I'm glad all of you always do the right thing no matter what the price. My heart breaks for this girl.
That grown woman just cried for her Mom after leaving her own child to starve to death. I just cant comprehend a job or reputation being more important than a childs life.
@@kandiceblair1105 I agree, that is not "a mistake", a mistake might be thinking about letting her die for a few minutes , if she was really afraid of what people would think, & then looking at her baby & coming to her senses. If she went those 30 miles to the supermarket & did buy her formula, if she did care for her baby girl , & if she did feel guilty about ever considering allowing her to suffer forever...but she didnt make a sudden deadly mistake, she kept it up for days with a cold perseverance. We dont need beings like her, people who can watch their own helpless infant scream for food & suffer for days, in our global community. How can she live with herself?
I’m disgusted by this psycho. I’m 28 weeks pregnant and knowing she didn’t even have the decency to leave the baby at the fire station, hospital or even a local church breaks my heart. Insanity.
The salt in the wound is hearing that she herself was adopted. But she’s rather kill a baby than put it up for adoption. She was given a second chance in life and her baby was given NONE
And its quite normal that the brestmilk doesnt come out the first time. Happens to most women. Just get formula in the meantime. Like she said she couldve gone to walmart!
People and religious groups need to stop making women and girls this embarrassed and ashamed of becoming pregnant. Women are severely punished in many ways for becoming pregnant outside of marriage.
As someone who grew up and still lives in that environment, i agree. But its no excuse. You dont kill a baby. Period. Thousands of us had babies anyway and we didnt freaking kill them. And the vast majority of us werent even treated.any differently like we all.feared. this girl didnt do this because of fear of shame. She did it because she didmt want to be a mom Same reason every other mother who kills her baby does.
@@mpacino1224but he/she are right, it's not wrong but you can do better like use a RUBBER or morning after pill:) or do not crempies at all, what so disgusting about that now? They do it qll the time and can't take the responsibility
@Tread1775 Right! So irritating. That poor child! Her child’s father might have been able to help her had she just told him, she was not thinking clearly at all and was very selfish.😓
@@BP-iz2ltdon't put this on the church. The church would have helped her. This camp had other councilors with babies, and any church I have ever belonged to help women that are pregnant/recently given birth. I got pregnant at 17 and while I wasn't a Christian till my 30's I worked in the nursery at a large local church. The people there were wonderful. I was gifted clothes, diapers, wipes. When I gave birth prematurely they were bringing me food and offering to help take me to the hospital, I didn't have a car yet, so I didn't have to take the bus. Don't blame the church. Any church that refuses to help a woman and a baby in need is not a church.
My daughter died at birth. My best friend is adopted. So was his sister. I have very little sympathy for this murderer. There were options. She chose to let her daughter die.
What did that even mean? Seriously, what was she even talking about? What was she trying to say? What point was she trying to make? That absurd question-“Who dies like that?”-makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I am dumbfounded by the question. I can’t even begin to wrap my head around what it is that she was actually asking. It’s infuriating! Was she asking who-as in who specifically? Was she referring to the baby she starved, neglected, and ultimately chose to murder? Premeditatedly, over at least six months (and that’s being extremely generous). Her baby girl. Her innocent, defenseless, newborn daughter. It’s a level of cruelty and delusion that’s incomprehensible. Then, to have the audacity to ask such an asinine question after committing such a horrifying act is beyond sickening-it’s a mockery of humanity itself. ‘Who dies like that?’ Her baby did. Because of her.
@@corrinaramos5906this was a religion camp. There’s a lot of iconography with crossed ankles and a raised hand. She sees it as god punishing her. That baby died screaming and reaching for help
I absolutely guarantee that she did not try to give that baby water. If she was heartless enough to leave the baby alone for hours on end while she soiled herself and starved, then she definitely didn't think to try giving her water. I think the detective gave her the water idea after she said that she was giving the baby her finger to suck on. She wasn't trying to provide nourishment, she was trying to get her to shut up. As horrible as it sounds, I don't think this girl gave a second thought to that poor baby. If you notice during her interview, the times she cries are only after admitting her massive screw-ups; she doesn't shed a single tear when she tells the detective about finding her baby dead. That's pretty telling, to me.
I get what you mean and agree with you. However, you literally can’t give babies water. It’s lethal to them. They can only consume milk/formula their first weeks of life.
What's even worse, is the ending. The realization that there were bottles, and a breast pump in the unoccupied house where she kept the baby girl. She could've easily fed that baby. She made a conscious decision not to. 😢 That poor baby starved to death. Such a sad and tragic case.
@MobileGames-xz2ff yes there wasn't much soiling. Also that's why the baby was mummified. Dehydrated and surrounded by blankets and clothing keeping oxygen out, it did not decompose.
"It wasn't intentional" but didn't go get any FORMULA or help of ANY kind. It was ABSOLUTELY intentional! There's no way she wasn't screaming for food! She didn't "sleep" with her unless she was already gone! I can't even sleep when I'm hungry! Umbilical cord still attached? Like wtf? Why didn't she just drop her at the safe site? You didn't name her bc you didn't plan on keeping her! And if you KNOW "you and your boyfriend don't have jobs or a place to live, why are you having UNPROTECTED S3X?! Especially after you've already had one hidden pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage!!? Like no. You have no excuse for this, Jessica!
Incredibly well said! Agreed! Here I thought she was 13 or something... but a 23 yr old in the 2010's?? Nah uh , bitch!! You and your selfish ass need to go directly to hell!! Forget about prison... no $200 for you , ever!! RIP to that poor tortured baby girl... let this be a lesson... Don't want a baby? DONT HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX THEN STUPID!!
Can't believe she actually had the gall to say "I did care for her". She didn't even take the slightest steps to meet a baby's basic needs for survival. She keeps saying "it's not me" taking no responsibility for her actions.
@@somethinginthenothing for some reason I wanna refer to her as baby Ellie, it's just the mom in me thinking if she couldn't even be bothered to name her, then in my mind, I'll name her! 😞
@@Sfoxeythere is a murderpedia page on this case. An article cited on the page, written by someone who was in the courtroom during opening statements or closing arguments, said that the baby was named Lily because she needed to have a name for official records
This is why sexual education is IMPORTANT. Teaching people at a young age how to be responsible with sex and how to avoid situations like this (with pregnancy, protection etc). And if it happens, what the options are and what to do if you don't want the child. So senseless and ridiculous to do something like this? There's no reason to go full term, give birth and kill your newborn, give it up or something, this is heinous.
that is not going to happen at a troubled teen program they just torture and abuse the kids and in some cases like this the studentss become the staff aafter
@@cathy2earth usually sex ed is taught in school as a child/teen. Schools need to enforce educating kids on their bodies and the consequences of unsafe sex. These programs are absolutely horrid though I do understand that for sure.
@@bixx420 umm u need to google troubled teen industry. You are not taught that in troubled teen prorams. You get raped and abused and taught to be quiet
The roommates said that her room was gross, messy, and smelled like dead animals. Then one of them finds a dead baby, and decides to PUT IT BACK and just go to fucking bed instead of calling 911.
It's not right but there are quite a number of people that cope with denial. A mummified baby would be a horrific sight for anyone. It may have been so horrible they couldn't cope with it at first and needed to convince themselves it was just a weird doll.
That's so f*cking sad. She knew about safe drop off places and everything but still chose to kill her. She claims her milk didn't come in but it absolutely would've if she'd feed that innocent baby properly. She wanted that baby to die period. She's a horrific monster.
her fake @ss crying and dumb excuses she gave when she was asked (why didn't you do something?), and acting so heartbroken and asking for her (mom) after she starved a baby.. A NEWBORN to death PISSED ME OFF
👏💯👏 *Yes! Exactly what I said to myself. Satan absolutely does roam this planet! This case is the perfect example.* *May this precious baby girl Rest in Heaven.* 🩷😭🩷
She starved her? Instead of dropping her at the fire department or something? Shes just worried about her boyfriend leaving or her parents judging HER not a care about that baby
Her boyfriend was sad the first baby didn’t make it even though he was blindsided, so her worry about that falls flat to me. Her parents might not approve, but she’s an independent grown woman who made a choice to have unprotected sex after firsthand experience with what could result. What gets me is she had a whole plan to take a sick day and take the baby to somewhere but instead of actually doing that she goes to work and hopes someone tells her to take a sick day as if she didn’t have more pressing concerns than what her coworkers thought of her taking a day off.
@@GreebleClown She probably had a lifetime of lying and could never be trusted. Caring so much about her job and her pitiful life of survival in a chaotic mess.
Who goes to sleep after finding a mummified baby? "Faith-based camp for troubled teens." Should we assume they didn't teach basic sex ed? "Intimacy before marriage was strongly discouraged." Yeah. Preaching abstinence always works.
While she is to blame for her choices, it really shows how shame and fear based religious preaching doesn't work. It does much more harm than good. Religion lead to me throwing myself on banisters to induce miscarriages because I was being molested. I almost certainly wasn't pregnant because there was never any sperm directly in my vagina, but I've got religious sex education to thank for that. 😊
Jaw DROPPED when I heard she just left the baby in a room… I can understand being shocked and overwhelmed, I can even get hiding a stillborn… but when that baby comes out alive… She said she was looking at safe drop locations, why didn’t she do that for THIS poor baby? “I don’t know” is NOT an excuse for not calling for help! 911 is free, what a monster.
@@missyflutter5562you have to have given birth to understand it? You’re joking right? I have given birth once and will be giving birth twice to twins in June. I didn’t kill my baby.
I ran out of colostrum when my son was 3 days old that was the same day we just got back from the hospital. That night was horrible I didn't realize I ran out but my son was CONSTANTLY crying, no one slept. I was sobbing I couldn't figure out why he was just constantly crying. I changed his diaper and his pee was brick yellow/red I panicked. It was 3AM in the morning I had my husband run to a 24 hour cvs to get formula so he could eat. There's no way if that baby starved no one else heard anything. Thankfully I got my supply in the next day but that was so scary.
@@christianward-nisbet8833i found court documents and her name was Lily. She was only named because baby Lily needed to have a name on her death certificate or some similar paperwork
According to an article listed in the murderpedia page for this evil being, someone who was in the court room said that this innocent baby’s name was Lily.
This is one of the best interrogators/interviewers I’ve ever seen holy shit, he started off with empathy trying to understand but the way he snapped and ate her tf up at the end 😭😭
A good interrogator is one that draws information out of a person. I personally think he launched into aggression too quickly and didn’t give her a lot of room to comfortably admit what she was thinking (which is what we would want).
One minute in they say it takes place in a "faith-based boarding institution for troubled teens", i can immediately tell it's gonna be twisted beyond belief. I've heard of many victims, hell, *survivors* of those places
This is the problem with strict religious parents bringing up very isolated and ignorant children. I get that she felt she couldn't turn to anyone. It's all a shame
I had my first child at 20 and learnt that breast milk can take up to 48 hrs to produce post labour. Colostrum is the fluid that comes in before breast milk, and contains antibodies for the baby. She didn't even try.
I’ve heard that in the UK women like this are not judged harshly or prosecuted, instead they are sent for mental help. It is in fact our culture that has caused this, the culture of slut shaming & looking down on unwed mothers Woman that do things like this usually come from religious backgrounds, imagine that their fear of judgement is greater than their fear of murder. This is the society we have created & it won’t end till the judgment ends 💔❤️🩹💔
I had my first child at 13 years old. I would imagine that at 22 years old one should have more common sense.should have given the child up for adoption Shame really
And considering she had a still born in the hospital she would have been told about the milk taking time because she still would have had milk come in when She delivered the stillborn baby. She wanted that baby dead. She could have bought formula at any time she had a car and a fucking job. She's evil AF...
@@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts You really just tried to blame this on everything but the person who gave birth. She isn't a mother. This has nothing to do with religion. You are showing youe bias. People are judged regardless. She did it out of being selfish because she didn't want it it to interere with her and her mans life. Plain and simple. Shaming people can be bad and good. In this case, good. She shouldn't be banging without protection if she didn't want a kid. And send them to prison like her. Don't be soft or hide behind "sympathy for criminal" garbage.
@@toribern816theirs definitely no excuse but those religious places can be INSANE with their beliefs, shaming, and hatred. Idk what she was thinking. She ought to be ashamed of herself. I hope she does see that babies image frozen from being gone for so long everytime she closes her eyes. Absolutely appalling.
Just hearing what that tiny, innocent baby had to go through, wow, it's hard to believe someone could be so selfish. The detective questioning her looked visibly overwhelmed. I hope he's okay, this whole experience must've been soul-crushing.
The fact that she was drinking so heavily throughout the pregnancy absolutely would have brought judgement from everyone if the truth came out. Even the father would be questioning why she continued to drink so heavily. I think her shame added to her secrecy and deadly inaction.
"All I had was clear stuff" "I was hoping my milk would come in" That clear stuff is colostrum and so so beneficial for the baby, and your milk will never come if you're not putting baby on the nipple to tell your body to make milk. I am so annoyed listening to this bs.
this detective was awesome. Eased her in with friendliness and gave her what for. Completely broke her down, and made her face the horrendous thing she did.
This one pissed me off so much I have to comment twice. She didn't want to lose her job but yet she spends life in prison. Makes no sense and that poor baby...May she rest in peace.
I got pregnant with my first child when I was barely 20 and my boyfriend at the time told me either I abort or he would not be involved with me anymore or the baby. I was terrified. But you know what I did? I told my support system. I started college at 10 weeks pregnant. When I found out that my son was going to be born with a birth defect, I was devastated but determined that we would get through it together. My life changed forever, I was no longer allowed to be a carefree woman in my early twenties. But now, 8 years later, that boy is my whole world. He is the best big brother, the most creative kid, and he has the sweetest heart. I couldn’t imagine not giving him the chance. I couldn’t imagine birthing a baby that I didn’t name. I have no sympathy for this person at all whatsoever and I hope she never gets parole.
@@MissMiaAfroGoddess thank you so much! He did, he was born with gastroschisis and spent a month in the NICU when he was born. He’s now a happy and healthy almost 8 year old though, other than not having a belly button you’d never be able to tell he was ever sick!
@@emilyturner5985 I don't understand how he doesn't have a belly button. We all get nourishment thru the umbilical cord, so was his removed during surgery post birth?
It’s a terrible shame that religious entities attach so much shame to sex. Using birth control isn’t allowed, sex before marriage isn’t allowed, having a baby while unmarried isn’t allowed, abortion is murder. Pastors often won’t marry couples who are pregnant. And you become persona non grata if you’re a single mother. There is little support for women in this predicament. I grew up in an evangelical church and there were so many tragedies in this same vein I left the church in my early twenties and have never looked back.
How About DON'T Have S*x, you won't get pregnant Problem SOLVED Don't blame faith, blame yourself for not controlling your LUST They add shame so that you don't become a "Baby mama"
I cannot thank EWU enough for bringing lesser known cases to public light. Awareness is a beautiful thing to have.
Indeed. Now apply this level of transparency to all of human history, where we weren't being recorded and most everyone had areas to bury or discard unwanted infants. There's cultural reasons built into Japan for infanticide, among other cultures, specifically because babies die and/or cannot be taken care of. Time to be extra grateful for the systems we do live in, from morality to social networks that can help care for babies.
that detective was relentless....thank you
@@jodiforeman3314 imagine these detectives have to go home to their family knowing this kind of stuff and they can't/don't want to confide with their loved ones. I really hope all detective get free therapy for what they see
@@Undomaranelppl
Especially if audience can pick up on the shock everyone else must have felt... to tell the story from the account of the roomie who found the baby... no one is going to ever talk about how she's probably going to have night terrors, spend thousands crying and weeping in therapy, affect her and her future kids and partners life, etc. Where is her justice
Literally all she had to do was drive to a fire station or hospital ANYWHERE and hand over the baby and leave, no questions asked
And she admitted to knowing that too
But that requires action/work and this POS just can’t be bothered.
So true, it's no question asked you wont be pursuit by police afterward
I'M FULL! 🔔
It's mind blowing women do this shit. U can seriously drop a baby off no problems no questions. This woman is disgusting
No name. No food. No clothes. She NEVER intended to keep this baby.
And she was drinking the whole time, shameful..
Yep. 💯
But then she knew that from the beginning. She intended to surrender it to a Chino safe harbor location.
No water more importantly, no love or comfort. As not to confuse anyone else when I say water, I mean hydration. Formula has water even breastmilk. Dehydration happens quickly in newborns.
@@sammanthaford3982 She didn’t intend to surrender her anywhere or she would’ve. She thought if she kept partying and not getting prenatal care that this baby would be stillborn like the first one but when that didn’t happen she just let her starve. She NEVER intended for that baby to live.
Her birth mother showed her mercy and gave her up for adoption. She showed that baby zero mercy. It’s absolutely disgusting.
You would think she would've learned from her own horrible childhood. Instead she out did her mother and did worse. Apple didn't fall far from the tree at all, shit the apple is still hanging on... Smh 😢
Imposing life on a child that did not give consent to life isn’t “mercy”…. It’s a life sentence. It’s only mercy if you believe that life is good. And that’s fine. But you shouldn’t make those choices for others. If the child you bring into the world doesn’t think life is good - then you’re actually the arsehole, aren’t you?
She's extremely self-centered with absolutely no empathy. She did not regard her own baby as a human being who can suffer until death from dehydration and starvation. She murdered her daughter passively. Passive or active, it's still 1st degree murder. I'm glad she won't have the possibility of parole until she hits menopause, when she cannot get pregnant again. As a mother, I cannot imagine doing that to a baby or a child. She's the one who's not human.
@@NineNineOne While I agree that it isn't so clear-cut, I do want to point out that the decision whether or not you want to be alive is one you cannot make until you have reached a certain level of development that allows you awareness. An infant doesn't have that yet, and by cutting their life short, you take away their freedom of choice.
If you feel you have brought a child into a terrible world that brings mostly misery, the most ethical course of action to me would still be to put the child up for adoption and give it a fair chance to be raised by loving people as their own who may instill a joy for life into your child that you yourself could never do. If it fails, it is up to your child to decide life is not worth living and step out if they so desire. That would not have constituted a crime, either, and for good reason.
However, I will say that perhaps her own youth has been so bad that she lost faith in adoption as a viable solution, and she may have actually intended her own actions as a mercy. With that being a plausible explanation - though no excuse, obviously - I would argue she is not necessarily a horrible monster, but she sure violated a lot of written AND unwritten rules of our society.
Perhaps her life has been hell and she knew putting the baby in the system would be giving the baby the same life. This is what happens when children have children.
When the detective said he was the only one speaking for the baby and he didn't even have a name for her. That got me.
Me too :-(
This is awfully sad isn't it
Same!!!!!😢😢😢
Just like abortion babies, speak for them as well.
Except minors assault victims(who should have access to abortion)
*Abortion is not Contraception*
You're a fool. The police aren't speaking for anyone but themselves. If you are being serious and not a troll, you have a lot to learn.
*Finds mummified dead baby*
"That's weird."
*Goes to sleep*
lmao seriously like wth
Let's not blame them. They're honestly victims in this too. I'm sure the baby actually looked fake for two people to think it was.
😂
@@MFnMelaroni so they didnt find it odd at all or think twice at all that a random "fake" baby shows up in their room outta thin air? theyre not victims they're negligent dumbasses
I 100% get how strange it seems that the roommates didn't immediately react, then went to sleep until the next morning. But, I'm sure it's one of those things that are so extremely shocking and bizarre that your brain wouldn't even immediately comprehend it COULD even be legitimate.
I feel bad for the girls who are forced to live in this place-- it seems deeply unsanitary, from the staff's person rooms to the communal spaces. The fact that people are finding pieces of "flesh" that get eaten by dogs and the body of a baby that no one calls the police over for two days makes me feel like these "troubled teens" are in a deeply unhealthy and unsafe environment.
The staff are repugnant. Some Cheistians
I know someone who got sent to one of a “ Christian home for troubled girls”. All it really was, was getting free work on the guys farm. They never sent the girls to school. They worked on the farm all day, straightening up the house and going to church on Sunday. It was finally shut down. Every time I hear about one of those “schools” I think of the person who was sent away instead getting real help.
Hardly surprising if the young people caught up in such a place end up even more messed up and less capable of doing the right things.
They're old enough to clean up
She’s 22…she works there
Her drinking while pregnant tells you everything you need to know.
Yep, intentionally trying to kill that poor baby girl. This entire case and footage made my stomach turn. Sick b*tch.
Exactly! I found out i was pregnant at 12 days pregnant & that is the day i quit heroin. My whole life and existence changed fir the better. My priorities & reason for everything was to be healthy for our son & get EVERYTHING ready for his delivery & life. I stacked up 9 months of diapers ,had so much clothing & new blankets, a stroller,carseat,baby Bjorn body carrier & a bassinet & crib & cute night lights....everything is for our son. Now he is 10. I just can't understand this female. She is psychotic.
@@linalicious415 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She didn’t even know she was pregnant, relax
She said she hid her pregnancy. How do you not know you're pregnant but admit to hiding your pregnancy?
A 22 year old woman, who had been successfully adopted as a baby, letting her own baby starve to death, then crying that she wants HER mom (to comfort her). Wow
Yeah like why didnt she give her baby the same chance that she had? If she didnt want to he a mother she had so many options but she chose the worst way out
I can't wrap my brain around her narcissism.
It makes me sick how she could do such a thing..
The comment and the response say more about how little how you guys don't know how trauma works. And this is something that we can learn to address our situation and prevent harm others in other levels. She basically don't feel capable to have it. 0 skill on emotional or resolution and never addressing trauma was the perfect storm for this disaster. I hope she suffer because is horrible but the human part of people neglect her in the beginning and escalated to this is horrible in their own way. I don't get it why this channel don't educated. They repeat the obvious and 0 real analysis from reals professionals. Then you have the morbid crime fans or people like me that work in this field and watch this to have more perspective.
@@InaruTanamahuh?
We need to talk more about this cabin she was at... No one knows what a pregnant girl looks like, she had flesh in the bathroom and they took a picture of it and didn't call the police, after some people speculating that she was pregnant they found a dead baby in HER room and they thought it was fake and didn't call 911, a dog ate a flesh remains, MULTIPLE PEOPLE heard a baby crying and didn't call the police,.... THIS PLACE NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY!!!
I blame it on very young people living/working there who have life issues and little experience. So, they hesitate out of fear and uncertainty. There's a lack of supervision by older people. Their faith teaching inhibits their thinking and gives them no options how to deal with this situation without fearing punishment. A recipe for tragedy
The faith isn't inhibiting reporting. Being troubled teens does.
@Studydog899 they mean the staff not Jessica? Unless the staff are all former "inmates"
Crazy stuff!
It's California. They're not real bright over there.
Agree. So many obvious reasons to have called the police.
“If she can make it to my days off it was meant to be” is one if the most DISGUSTING things ive ever heard.
This is a good example of the kind of disgusting, self-serving, magical thinking religious people engage in.
“Maybe she’s not meant to live” what do you MEEAAAAN. She is alive! You created her, you gave birth to her, she is alive and breathing in your closet! The only reason she didn’t live is because of you!!!
@@dharmallars💯
I wonder if she ever thought how much that Lil baby was suffering. Her dad probably would have took her even. I just don't comprehend
Yeah, that’s the most insane rationalization I’ve ever heard.
I really felt that when the detective said, “You let her starve so your life wouldn’t be affected”. That’s what it boils down to with this vile repugnant adult child. 😢
Makes me physically ill. I shouldn’t have watched this. We just lost our 3 month old son to SIDS 3 weeks ago. It’s just not fair. Disgusting evil women like this treat their precious children like they’re worthless garbage and I’m sitting over here wishing I could trade places with mine. This “woman” is a monster. I just can’t even think about what this little angel went through, the suffering💔… I hope this sweet little girl is up in heaven playing with my son and all the other babies gone too soon. Life just isn’t fair.
@lolo-nn4vm Heavenly Father, lift up the precious infant who passed away from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). We pray for comfort and strength for the family and loved ones who are grieving this unimaginable loss.
Lord, we trust in your perfect plan and know that this sweet soul is now resting in your loving embrace. We pray that you grant peace and understanding to those who are struggling to make sense of this tragedy. May your presence be felt in their lives as they navigate through this difficult time.
We also pray for all the parents and families who have lost a child to SIDS. May they find solace in knowing that their little ones are now safe in your arms, free from any pain or suffering.
May your love and grace surround us, especially during times of grief and loss. And may we find comfort in knowing that you are always with us, holding us in your everlasting arms.
In Jesus' precious name we pray,
Amen.
This is just one tiny reason why we need abortion rights. Force people to carry pregnancies and this will happen to many more babies. Pro-life my ass.
@high-bi-password Most states still have abortion rights. It's state by state. Stop listening to MSM lies. I don't even know of a single state that has completely outlawed all abortions.
@high-bi-password NOBODY FORCED HER TO CARRY HER PREGNANCY!! she wasn't denied any abortion, she had every opportunity to do that if she wanted to, her boyfriend drove her to the hospital but could've at any time drove her to go get an abortion you talk about, you people and your garbage about abortion rights are insane, at what point was she ever denied a f***ing abortion?!?! Your "right" to murder(abort) your baby is and has and unfortunately always will be available...but nice try🤦♀️
"What happens now?"
"You're going to be arrested"
"Why?"
Almost slapped my monitor there.
"Murder"
"What does that mean"
omfg
@@MrOrcen The clueless entitlement is real.
She can't be that clueless, dude. I want to slap the adulthood into her. She talks and acts like a teenager! What is wrong with this one????
😂
She said “for what?” I think she wanted to know what she was being charged with and what was going to happen to her.
“I just want my mom”
The sick irony
I thought the same
I was waiting for this comment.
Yeah I could not believe she said that
came here to say that
Right. That’s all her baby wanted too
That poor baby girl. Left to starve alone without even being named. This is horrible.
Yea. It’s really is. I’m pretty disgusted right about now…. 26:27
yeah that’s pretty fckn sad. jesus christ
She's evil to the core! All she cared about was herself.
Horrible. Letting your child die so your life isn’t affected by their existence is the epitome of selfishness.
Everytime i finish a drink, i'm gonna name the can before i throw it in the trash.
This grown woman is acting like she’s a 12 year old who got pregnant and was scared and didn’t know what to do.
Crazyyyy it's almost like that information is heavily stigmatized/regulated for some reason 🤔
The fact that she tried to say that the umbilical cord just "fell out of her" was the first clue that she wasn't telling the truth.
My husband told me the cord wasnt as easy to cut as he thought it would be lol..🥴
@@notsorryyouretriggered FrFr💯
@@notsorryyouretriggeredit is not easy at all lol
@@notsorryyouretriggeredAgreed, it was kinda like cutting through a water hose.
Sometimes that can if the placenta comes out right after. But it's not common
Im here for the narrator. He could read the back of a shampoo bottle and I’d be interested.
Whattup EWU crew, it's... THE RAVEN
His name is Russell archey
He is the Raven!! Harbinger of true crime! ❤
Lol swear 😂 agreed
Let's just not hope he'd be in an old school Herbal Essence commercial... I don't want to hear him that way, but if you do, then enjoy lol
"I just let her starve and didn't BOTHER to find her any food or help, but i didn't harm her"...lady, that IS harm.
hope she gets an extra charge for that
Libs want to let her off with a warning
She is a child too. Walk a mile in her shoes before you judge this girl. Blame the adults that forced this stupid religious crap on all these kids.
@@amusedBYfools I thought this whole thing was a part of the Dems new “abortion strategy “ they extended it from 26 weeks to 3 months after birth
@@amusedBYfoolsOh don't even. Even her bf said her parents asked when they were having kids! Just like she said she'd lose her job when obviously other girls worked there that had babies!
It sickens me how many people like her have children, and yet my wife and I have been struggling for years to have one of our own.
i feel for you and your wife. What a shame that women like the one in this video don't even think about how happy they could make others if they would give their unwanted child for adoption. Instead she kept on drinking heavily and let that poor baby starve.
I wish your and your wife the best and I do hope you both stay strong together. Of course I hope for your wish to come true - one way or the other!
Dear God I’ve treated a baby bird fallen from its nest and cared for it better than this woman could for a human being.
congrats?
@ jessica?
Not just a human one that was the person she should care for the most
interspecies parenting?
Fr what the f
The girl that heard the baby crying experienced far more compassion and grief than the baby's own mother. That poor girl will have to live with the guilt of 'if only' for the rest of her life. You could hear the heartbreak in her voice.
Yeah I would’ve at least called for help or 911 just in case….lesson learned
Why didn't she call 911? It's better ti be wrong than ending up having to live with the fact you did nothing and a baby died because of it.
@@Lizzie-h3j We are very much a "mind your business" and "how you raise your kids is not my concern" type of society.
@@musicfan2010100 Which is sadly because other people are so quick to judge. And also, because sometimes the law doesn't go in favour of the person defending themselves/others (getting charged for manslaughter when you were defending yourself, or getting charged for criminal damage for breaking into somewhere that your concerned about).
@@AllAboutPurple You are blaming HER?
She explains everything she could’ve done, then says “I didn’t know what to do”.
Yes she did. Call 911 & call her mom, when she was in labor.
This is such a disturbing case. She couldn’t take the baby to a fire station or hospital??? Instead she let that poor baby starve to death? Intentional cruelty. She’s a horrible human being.
@@animallover9037Intentional cruelty is different from neglicence. She was negligent. She didn't dangle the baby by its feet and laugh as it cried. She couldn't have coped with that, so instead she pretended it didn't exist. Never happened.
@@animallover9037it’s so strange. She gave her water with a cup but there were baby bottles in the apartment. She was gonna lose her job for having a baby, but two co workers took care of their babies on campus, her bf was gonna be upset but he wanted a kid, her family was gonna be upset, but they wanted a grandchild? And she’s getting drunk the whole pregnancy? So strange.
She couldn’t make a decision… that’s clearly the issue. She was overwhelmed and in denial and dissociated.
RIP little babies. Thank you EWU Crime Storytime 💠
This is one of the most disturbing cases I’ve heard, solely because I can imagine how much pain and suffering her poor baby went through, hungry and thirsty, no nappies just left to lay in her mess for hours and hours on end till mom comes back. This is the stuff of nightmares, she tortured that baby.
It's horrifying...poor thing didn't get to live a single moment in peace or comfort... just suffered every second from birth to death....
That women didn't even feed her baby 😢
I agree with you. One of THE WORST.
I'm glad I saw your post early... I don't think I'm gonna finish this video.
Well what do you expect when half of the country thinks it's alright to un-alive babies?
Camp Councillor?? The filth and disarray in her room should have been reason for immediate dismissal.
Exactly !!!!!
Yup 👍
You think people care nowadays?
@@alexlogan202Nowadays? This happened 10 years ago🫤
@@kaylakitty3814yea and now a days it’s worse
Too selfish to keep her, and when she killed her, she was too selfish to let her go?! What an absolutely terrible human.
It's all about not wanting to be found out. That's the selfish part.
@@2degucitas *evil.
But why on earth did she keep the body?? The whole thing is mental.
The ending really got me.
That poor child was just feet from formula bottles, a warm crib, and a chance to live. Instead, all she got was one of the most selfish "mothers" to ever live.
Disgusting.
As soon as I heard “a faith-based camp for troubled teens” I knew this was NOT going to end well as per unplanned pregnancies. Never does.
She probably wasn’t allowed to have contraceptives and this is the result - girls having babies they don’t want, having to hide it from everyone…
I feel sorry for her having to grow up like this, being so brainwashed by religion she’d rather let her baby die, than have anyone find out that she’s having se# outside marriage.
None of that has anything to do with "faith". She didn't want the baby to get in between her and her mans life. Plain and simple.
If you think "faith based" automarically means doesn't end well, you live in a biased mind.
Far worse and far more cases happen outside of "faith" as you say.
@Jebbreh
Guess I struck a nerve. 😉
There are other safer, saner ways to prevent an unwanted child from being born, or stop a baby from "getting in the way" of one's life, but Christian brainwashing prevents considering them.
As does being in a total institution environment like the camp where even speaking of such alternatives is forbidden, let alone trying to access them with limited funds, support, knowledge and transportation.
Your comment only proves my point.
@@cyberpunkcentral8500 She WORKED there
You know nothing about religion
My sister was pregnant before mariage and what did we do?
Nothing, she has a beautiful son and a daughter.
You accuse religious people of brainwashing, ironic.
People choose to be a-holes and religion has nothing to do with it. If it was fear due to religion, she wouldn't have done what she did, because last time I checked ending a life is worse than having a baby out of wedlock.
Also she chose to abandon the baby instead of actually dealing with the situation.
The fact that she keeps saying “I didn’t know what to do” “should I go to Walmart and get formula?” Are you kidding me?!!
That’s what I was thinking. Like… YES! DO THAT!!!! 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Yes!! That’s exactly what you should have done! Do I take her to the ER? YESSS!! That’s exactly what you do! What am I missing? She knew what to do, but she DIDNT
She's just trying to throw in anything that will stick so she can avoid having to say that she intended for her to die
Formula is pоison, literally garbаge. If you have a bаby, please don't feed it that.
Everytime she said "I didn't know what to do" she gave 20 fucking examples of better options she could have done instead of what she did.
This detective is a hero. Until now I never looked at their work the way he put it, being the voice of those who died because there's nobody else to speak for them. He fought hard for that poor nameless baby and got justice.
I started crying when he say “today, i am her voice”
It's too late. Anyone could have been a hero to raise a concern in time or raise a child semi-properly. The real parents of the murderer; the coworkers, the cohabitants that have seen the signs of the pregnancy. What about the boyfriend who haven't noticed the _second_ pregnancy?
Discovers dead, mummified baby. Shrugs and goes to bed. Wut?!
“Dead mummified baby” as opposed to the alive mummified babies lol.
Didn’t they state this was a home for troubled girls? And she’s a counsler? Drinking a lot and killing babies 🤮 Great job vetting!
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Yeah, I don’t understand that part either. Look at the filth she lived in. What a great example for the girls she was supposed to be helping even WITHOUT what they know now😒
Mate, the guy isnt even in office yet. Dont particularly take a shine to him but you really don't help matters by making comments like this.
Trump wasnt even president you 🤡@Schinzo__
@@Schinzo__ what are you talking about? Every woman in the country is within a 3 hour drive from an abortionist if shed made that choice.
She is crying, but not because she lost a baby, but because she got caught. Bringing the baby to a hospital, giving up her so a loving couple could adopt her would be the right thing to do. Why she didn't wanted to do it? She didn't wanted to caught and go to jail.
Especially since she was adopted.
Except she wouldn't have gone to jail if she gave up the baby. There would be no further consequences. That was the safe route to go. But because she was misinformed about the 48 hours instead of 72, and because her "acting sick" didn't convince her boss to send her home, she didn't find an opportunity to. All in the name of that stupid religion she was raised to believe in. Her boyfriend saying her family would have welcomed a grandchild is absolute nonsense. They would have dropped her like a brick. Religion works that way.
@RacingPepe Oh please, her parents were asking her and the boyfriend when they were going to have children.
She wasn't working 24 hours a day. Hospitals are open 24/7 she could have dropped the baby off before work.
@@RacingPepe you’re trippin. You don’t know her parents and what their thoughts were on the situation. This girl is a monster. Period. End of story. She did NOTHING for that poor baby. Absolutely NOTHING…
Because they would most likely file a police report and she would be arrested for abondoning a baby. This is real life, not a disney movie.
The "peice of flesh" was placed on a deck and photographed... then a dog ate it.
WHUUUUH?!
That parts lowkey the most disturbing to me 😭
Two Words..
.... Nightmare Fuel!!!
I had a violent cringe reaction and immediately yelled "oh God, nooo!" To my poor dog who didn't do anything.
All those females that live in the cabin are disgusting. Not smelling a dead baby, seeing a dead mummified baby and going to bed afterwards, picking up a piece of flesh and raking pictures of it and letting a dog eat it. Absolutely nasty women.
Sounds like that troubled teens place needs to be investigated for it's incompetent manager$
So, she went bike riding but couldn't drive an extra 20 mins and drop off her baby anonymously? She had all the information. So many couples and families would love a newborn. One phone call, ONE!
They really found a dead baby and just went to bed?
That's what I was thinking? Like what???
like she said she was definitely traumatized and convinced herself it was fake at first
Right?!
I thought the same thing. I thought, “Excuse me? They did WHAT?!” And who the hell can sleep after finding a deceased baby?
It sounds like they couldnt believe that it was real. They just couldnt process it. I mean, who would find something like that and immediatly know "Oh wow this is an actual mummified human baby in my roommate's room." I would also think it was fake. But after some thinking, I would start to wonder.
" I just want my mom"!! Wow your baby wanted her mom too!!
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Right! I was just saying this to myself. Absolute hypocrisy and delusion. I can't even imagine people out there existing that do these types of things. Heartbreaking 💔
I thought the same thing
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@@LiminalHellscape how is that funny ur strange
The maintenance man was SO close to saving that baby 😭😭😭
Same with the girl who heard crying but chalked it up to a ringtone or computer sound. She sounded heartbroken when she realized after the face and it was too late. That has to be nerve-wracking to know you had the chance to save that baby. Ugh
Yeah, dude missed the baby by a minute. Crushing for sure.
@@sweetie523I can only imagine they’ll live with a heavy ‘If only’ on their shoulders. Of course, it isn’t their fault at all… but I know how I’d feel.
At least he actually went out there and searched the unit 😢
"it was so weird, like, who dies like that?" your baby did.
Been watching this with my earphones with my little girl fast asleep next to me.. how anyone could treat another person, adult like this let along a baby.. and innocent child, your own baby! Truly disturbing, thank you again EWU crew for another educational video! ❤
It's sad that you can't understand this young girls desperation. The detective only cares about building a case.
Where's her attorney??
@@amusedBYfoolsdo you amuse yourself, goofy?
@amusedBYfools building a case against a woman who admitted on camera, after she agreed to talk without a lawyer, that she let her newborn daughter starve to freaking death.... yea, you're goofy for sure!
@@amusedBYfoolsShe accepted talking to him without an attorney, if you were paying attention, genius. It's more sad that YOU sympathize with this "young girls" desperation of escaping motherhood because she's too selfish, sick, and proud, and cares only about what benefits her life. She's not a young girl and even most "young girls" would not starve their baby and find a way to get help..... desperation= give up for adoption (she had the idea but did not follow through and drop her off at safe haven), or give to a family member, not starving and torturing an innocent being for 4 days. There are zero excuses for her. She even had the resources. stop making excuses for these monsters, you're thinking like one too.
Yup same here have headphones in with my two daughters next to me I had absolutely no one had to go to a domestic violence shelter when I had my oldest theirs no excuse.. oh and i was 5 years younger than her.
She knew about safe drop sights, she’s a product of adoption, she had months to prepare or make a plan. She killed her baby, because like, it was like, too hard like, you know.
Yeah the fact that she knew all her options and didn't even bother to do anything was damning.
Or whatever… 😂
She was scared because of her religious family, job, etc. Religious extremists make women feel shame about having sex and becoming pregnant. I blame the religion, not this poor young woman
@@trentonscism she killed her baby, you need help.
@@trentonscismYou can admit religion is a factor without absolving her of literal infanticide. She found the time to go to a hospital to give birth, not under a deck like she said, which means she had the time to surrender her baby.
Detective, “where do we go from here?” All of us watching, “PRISON!!” 😂
Correction: under the prison.
She had no intent to keep or take care of that baby. The intent was always to get rid of her. F*ck Jessica.
To advocate for available abortion. For available birth control to every female (like, actual female, not trans). To have real medical care and real medical education for women despite whatever religious consequences that state or community that imposes. AND to perhaps keep investigators from this job to leave it to people that actually have blood in their veins and pumping through their heart and brain...unlike this fuck. If you don't think this person was extremely affected, you're brainless, if don't think this person was going through a real HELL, you're heartless and emotionally dumb too. This entire situation was handled horribly. The justice system handled this just as immaturely as the young woman did.
When states make a woman's right to her own body secondary to the rights of someone else, whether their life depends on her body or not, we will always have these completely avoidable tragedies.
This is so fucked up.
My line was "25 to life", but yeah.
I remember hearing a story from reddit . A family in England had bought a house that was a nunnery about 300-400 years ago. While some repairs/renovations were being done they found a bunch of skeletons of newborns hidden behind one of the walls.
the fact that she was adopted... but couldnt surrender her baby to be adopted and have a chance at life. rest in peace
she was at JYA an was likely tortured and abused before becomming a staff. Google Troubled teen industry abuse.
You hint that all adoptions are good, not at all.
Being an adoptee, even in a good situation can be difficult.
@@lindseyarnold1586 not all birth parents are good: case in point ☝️
Good lard!
At least there would have been a chance but it’s hard to say with these religious conservatives. Shasta is very rural and conservative. I live in the next county.
@@lindseyarnold1586 This is correct. People who aren't adopted can't even begin to imagine what it's like.
@@lindseyarnold1586as an adopted person, i was just coming here to say that. thank you!
Poor baby girl. You died not ever experiencing any love, not even any care. There's one teared up RUclipsr out here that your short, tragic life has touched. I'm thinking about you with love in my heart. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Thank you. ❤
😭💔 Thank you. RIP, baby girl ❤
So much, this 💔😭
Yes me too. Poor sweetie may she feel loved now in the beyond ❤
So let me get this straight. These young women work with troubled teens, and one has killed her baby and the other two "didn't know what to think" of the baby's body, so they just went back to bed. I hope this program for troubled teens has been shut down. What a horrible place!
And they have people like her working there....heartless cold monster😮😢
Couldn't believe what I was hearing they just ignored the smell and was able to sleep with the horrific sight fresh in their mind absolutely disgusting
Absolutely baffled.
And what kind of place for troubled teens allows their graduates turned employees to drink on site?
It's faith based lol. Due to the recent serious of events in the US I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more places like this start to pop up. You're right though, terrible places these are
The problem I have with her, it’s her age, she’s an adult, a young working woman that already had a baby before. She stated how devastating it was for her boyfriend, when they lost their newborn baby, which means he was happy to be a father together with her and wanted to have the family they’d desired.
So, the excuse for not telling him about her second pregnancy doesn’t make sense, together they had months to prepare for the baby’s birth. And if marriage was important for her job, they could’ve married at the city hall.
That’s again it’s another excuse that doesn’t make sense,she knew when her coworkers had their babies, they had their babies with them at work. She could’ve continued her job, and had her baby girl with her, as well.
She was too old for her to use her parents as an excuse, especially when her boyfriend said they were always asking them when was she having a baby. When they kept the first pregnancy a secret from her parents, he couldn’t understand why, when her parents wanted a grandchild from them.
Again, she used another excuse that doesn’t make sense, because she knew her parents would have lovely welcome her baby girl in their arms and spoiled her as all loving grandparents do it to all their babies.
She was 23 years old, she wasn’t a young teenager, although she talked like a teenager.
She had a boyfriend who loved her, and wanted to be a father, so she was not alone without any kind of help from her relationship. She chose not to let him know about his second living baby for days, she had time to talk to him and ask him for help with their baby girl.
But, she chose to leave her baby alone for hours, crying, screaming and slowly dying of hunger, that’s cruel.
I’d to write it down for my brain to comprehend her intentions at the time, by her actions it shows she had no intention of being a mother to the poor baby girl, she didn’t even had chosen a name for her baby during her pregnancy. Something so special and important for a mother to be, taking time to choose the precious baby name. When the baby is born and placed on our arms, (if we were the ones giving them birth or if they were given to us, but brought to us by another mother that carried them when we couldn’t), we look at them and feel a type of love that only a mother can understand, it’s different from all other loves we have experienced in this world.
She had the ability and knowledge to take the baby to safety and she chose to let her baby die, instead of taking her to the hospital, a neighbor’s house, a firehouse, call 911 for help instead of having a baby fall on the ground during the night, outside and alone when the baby was born, why, the only sad answer that it’s difficult for our hearts to accept, she didn’t want her baby, and she used all types of excuses to ignore the truth.
What did she do with the placenta? She knew what she had to do when the baby is born, the umbilical cord was broken when the baby fell to the ground. She put herself in danger of bleeding from the uterus the way the baby was born.
Now, I understand why she’s in prison for life, I’ve seen teenagers in the past take the same actions before and after pregnancy and the baby was found later dead, but they didn’t get life in prison. One case was unbelievable, because the teen mom didn’t get any harsh punishment for killing the newborn baby.
She didn’t want the baby, she didn’t love her baby, she knew she could have taken the baby to a safe place in her city, she knew about it by working with troubled teens, it’s hard to comprehend her actions.
She destroyed everything she was trying to keep by making terrible decisions in her life.
Please, if you are or you know someone in the same situation, don’t make the same mistakes and poor decisions as her. Tell someone about your situation, don’t be afraid of what you don’t know or cannot control.
Sometimes people’s reactions are different than theirs words, situations are different from one another.
Your parents may be helpful and they might be there for you, they might have an idea of a place where disparate couples have their names in long lists for adoption. Or a couple from work, a cousin in their family that cannot get pregnant, miracles happen every day.
Sometimes our mistakes can make us feel we are in the worst situation ever in our lives and we are completely helpless and alone. We are not, we have a loving Father in Heaven that is always there for us, it’s up to us to make the first step and humbly pray for His love, forgiveness, help, guidance, and show our gratitude for all His blessings and miracles in our lives. He will help you through your journey. Believe in Him and know there’s nothing a loving parent won’t do for his children, imagine what our Celestial Father would do for us.
This is why contraception is so important...
Yes. Thank you
These things are very prone to happen when religious cultures forbids sex or discussions about it.
The more contraception has been available the more these things have happened
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@@klee88029or when women are told fetuses are the same as parasites.
her room is DISGUSTING. that alone should’ve been a red flag. how can she be employed by a troubled girls camp when she was clearly still insanely troubled? she had no business working there and neither do the girls who saw the infant and chose to go to bed instead of reporting it immediately.
Do you think that means my best friend is also a murderer, lol? Sorry, couldn't resist. You can have a messy room and be a good person.
My take exactly.. Glad I was not the only to pick up on this...
@stevnated
My neice. But I noticed the mess and wonder about people live like that.
@@tessaducek5601 Yeah, they are different creatures aren't they? Lol
A lot of abuse happens in the troubled teen industry so this wouldn’t surprise me that she works at one of those places
My God, the phone interview with the lady that heard the baby crying is heart wrenching. That poor woman will feel guilt over something that was absolutely not her fault, probably for the rest of her life. My heart breaks for her.💔
You mean the tool that told everyone to stop asking because "she told me she doesnt have sex"? Charge the religious troglodyte too
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@nicolegroves6880 Yeah, she was noticbly more upset than the "mother"
Yes she definitely will wish she’d had done something the rest of her life. I hope she can forgive herself.
@@HeatherL7290you didn't hear about the drinking? See the obvious chaos that was her room?
I'm glad all of you always do the right thing no matter what the price. My heart breaks for this girl.
It just sickens me how depraved people can really be. Bless that beautiful sweet baby girl may she rest in peace ❤❤❤
That grown woman just cried for her Mom after leaving her own child to starve to death.
I just cant comprehend a job or reputation being more important than a childs life.
That's because you're not a narcissistic sociopath Jezebel
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She left her newborn to starve to death 😭😭😭😭 she really shouldn't be living
@@kandiceblair1105 I agree, that is not "a mistake", a mistake might be thinking about letting her die for a few minutes , if she was really afraid of what people would think, & then looking at her baby & coming to her senses.
If she went those 30 miles to the supermarket & did buy her formula, if she did care for her baby girl , & if she did feel guilty about ever considering allowing her to suffer forever...but she didnt make a sudden deadly mistake, she kept it up for days with a cold perseverance.
We dont need beings like her, people who can watch their own helpless infant scream for food & suffer for days, in our global community. How can she live with herself?
I’m disgusted by this psycho. I’m 28 weeks pregnant and knowing she didn’t even have the decency to leave the baby at the fire station, hospital or even a local church breaks my heart. Insanity.
There’s no excuse for what she did. I’m 12 weeks pregnant with twins and I have a 2 year old. There’s a special place in hell for people like her.
Exactly!!!!👏👏👏👏
She’s scum and always will be. Irresponsible and uncaring. A big F you to her!
She’s a vile disgrace of a human
Also good luck with your baby
The salt in the wound is hearing that she herself was adopted. But she’s rather kill a baby than put it up for adoption. She was given a second chance in life and her baby was given NONE
You can’t feed babies water, this woman is exhausting! 🤦🏻♀️
And its quite normal that the brestmilk doesnt come out the first time. Happens to most women. Just get formula in the meantime. Like she said she couldve gone to walmart!
@@izzatihassan1475religious background, probably ZERO sex education. Zero prenatal care. Stupid murderous woman.
Her crying is exhausting,too.
People and religious groups need to stop making women and girls this embarrassed and ashamed of becoming pregnant. Women are severely punished in many ways for becoming pregnant outside of marriage.
Thank you for this comment!!!! I agree!!!!! It’s such a shame!!!!
Stop taking crempies before your wedding
@@cookiemang4128 seriously you are gross. Keep that crapp in your upper head.
As someone who grew up and still lives in that environment, i agree. But its no excuse. You dont kill a baby. Period. Thousands of us had babies anyway and we didnt freaking kill them. And the vast majority of us werent even treated.any differently like we all.feared. this girl didnt do this because of fear of shame. She did it because she didmt want to be a mom
Same reason every other mother who kills her baby does.
@@mpacino1224but he/she are right, it's not wrong but you can do better like use a RUBBER or morning after pill:) or do not crempies at all, what so disgusting about that now? They do it qll the time and can't take the responsibility
“Just the clear stuff” girl that’s milk before it really starts flowing. That baby could have eaten just fine 😢
Yeah. Has important nutrients
That's the most important part, so full of nutrients.
As a man, I learned that 35 years ago, with my wife during prenatal Dr visits. Google wasn’t even a thought to her. 😤
@Tread1775 Right! So irritating. That poor child! Her child’s father might have been able to help her had she just told him, she was not thinking clearly at all and was very selfish.😓
We need more women's health taught in public schools 😢
Drive to a firestation, church, a house were the lights are on, ring the bell and leave the kid there! WTF is wrong with people!!
Right?! ANY PLACE away from her would have been a Safe Place.
church put her there....
@@BP-iz2ltdon't put this on the church. The church would have helped her. This camp had other councilors with babies, and any church I have ever belonged to help women that are pregnant/recently given birth. I got pregnant at 17 and while I wasn't a Christian till my 30's I worked in the nursery at a large local church. The people there were wonderful. I was gifted clothes, diapers, wipes. When I gave birth prematurely they were bringing me food and offering to help take me to the hospital, I didn't have a car yet, so I didn't have to take the bus. Don't blame the church. Any church that refuses to help a woman and a baby in need is not a church.
She didn't name her. She knew she wasn't letting her live
My thoughts exactly. That is the ONLY reason she wouldn’t have named her..to kelp herself emotionally detached from “it”. Terrible
⏫️THIS!!! 100% Every pregnant momma I have known has a selection of baby names picked out. That poor baby girl 😢💔
Exactly....
My daughter died at birth. My best friend is adopted. So was his sister. I have very little sympathy for this murderer. There were options. She chose to let her daughter die.
Jessica asking “who dies like that” about HER OWN BABY…now that shit got me pissed off. I’m glad the judge saw her for the selfish murderer she is
Every remark that came out of her mouth wan inhuman.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566 Makes me wish most State's still had the DP!
i believe shed be let free if it happens today in California
What did that even mean? Seriously, what was she even talking about? What was she trying to say? What point was she trying to make? That absurd question-“Who dies like that?”-makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I am dumbfounded by the question.
I can’t even begin to wrap my head around what it is that she was actually asking. It’s infuriating!
Was she asking who-as in who specifically? Was she referring to the baby she starved, neglected, and ultimately chose to murder? Premeditatedly, over at least six months (and that’s being extremely generous). Her baby girl. Her innocent, defenseless, newborn daughter.
It’s a level of cruelty and delusion that’s incomprehensible.
Then, to have the audacity to ask such an asinine question after committing such a horrifying act is beyond sickening-it’s a mockery of humanity itself. ‘Who dies like that?’ Her baby did. Because of her.
@@corrinaramos5906this was a religion camp. There’s a lot of iconography with crossed ankles and a raised hand.
She sees it as god punishing her.
That baby died screaming and reaching for help
EWU is still the OG of true crime .Love to see a new upload.
Edit: oh my heart...this story is so tragic
this iss what happens when kids are sent to abusive teen torture programs they go crazy
@cathy2earth , also when they are indoctrinated to believe they are sinners and will "burn in hell."
@@lindseyarnold1586I was but murder is worse than giving birth! Baby could’ve been adopted
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34:36 "but you didn't name her before all that" -took the words out of my mouth, she's beyond manipulative and self-centered
"I guess she just starved"
Absolutely disgusting.
“ *I JUST WANT MY MOM* “
My heart breaks thinking how that is all the baby needed to have a chance at life.
When she said that, all I could think was, "YEAH, and so did that baby you tortured."
Goes to show how immature she was
Dad might have been a better choice that time
I absolutely guarantee that she did not try to give that baby water. If she was heartless enough to leave the baby alone for hours on end while she soiled herself and starved, then she definitely didn't think to try giving her water. I think the detective gave her the water idea after she said that she was giving the baby her finger to suck on. She wasn't trying to provide nourishment, she was trying to get her to shut up. As horrible as it sounds, I don't think this girl gave a second thought to that poor baby. If you notice during her interview, the times she cries are only after admitting her massive screw-ups; she doesn't shed a single tear when she tells the detective about finding her baby dead. That's pretty telling, to me.
I get what you mean and agree with you. However, you literally can’t give babies water. It’s lethal to them. They can only consume milk/formula their first weeks of life.
What's even worse, is the ending. The realization that there were bottles, and a breast pump in the unoccupied house where she kept the baby girl. She could've easily fed that baby. She made a conscious decision not to. 😢 That poor baby starved to death. Such a sad and tragic case.
@@michelleholmes7582I know! I couldn’t believe that part.
Please tell me how you can soil yourself if you have no food or water in your system.
@MobileGames-xz2ff yes there wasn't much soiling. Also that's why the baby was mummified. Dehydrated and surrounded by blankets and clothing keeping oxygen out, it did not decompose.
"It wasn't intentional" but didn't go get any FORMULA or help of ANY kind. It was ABSOLUTELY intentional! There's no way she wasn't screaming for food! She didn't "sleep" with her unless she was already gone! I can't even sleep when I'm hungry! Umbilical cord still attached? Like wtf? Why didn't she just drop her at the safe site? You didn't name her bc you didn't plan on keeping her! And if you KNOW "you and your boyfriend don't have jobs or a place to live, why are you having UNPROTECTED S3X?! Especially after you've already had one hidden pregnancy and subsequent miscarriage!!? Like no. You have no excuse for this, Jessica!
letting your own child starve is always intentional. disgusting demon fr
Incredibly well said! Agreed! Here I thought she was 13 or something... but a 23 yr old in the 2010's??
Nah uh , bitch!! You and your selfish ass need to go directly to hell!! Forget about prison... no $200 for you , ever!!
RIP to that poor tortured baby girl... let this be a lesson... Don't want a baby? DONT HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX THEN STUPID!!
Christian brain rot
No excuse
This is probably not the first time 😕
Jessica is the epitomy of evil..
Crying and pretending to be a human when underneathe the surface she is a pure Monster..
Can't believe she actually had the gall to say "I did care for her". She didn't even take the slightest steps to meet a baby's basic needs for survival. She keeps saying "it's not me" taking no responsibility for her actions.
Even worse when you know all she had to do was open the cupboard and there were bottles & breast pump😭
You expect anything else when most women DEMAND the right to murder their own child? This is what that looks like over time.
She didn't even care enough to give her a name
@@somethinginthenothing for some reason I wanna refer to her as baby Ellie, it's just the mom in me thinking if she couldn't even be bothered to name her, then in my mind, I'll name her! 😞
@@Sfoxeythere is a murderpedia page on this case. An article cited on the page, written by someone who was in the courtroom during opening statements or closing arguments, said that the baby was named Lily because she needed to have a name for official records
This is why sexual education is IMPORTANT. Teaching people at a young age how to be responsible with sex and how to avoid situations like this (with pregnancy, protection etc). And if it happens, what the options are and what to do if you don't want the child. So senseless and ridiculous to do something like this? There's no reason to go full term, give birth and kill your newborn, give it up or something, this is heinous.
that is not going to happen at a troubled teen program they just torture and abuse the kids and in some cases like this the studentss become the staff aafter
@@cathy2earth usually sex ed is taught in school as a child/teen. Schools need to enforce educating kids on their bodies and the consequences of unsafe sex. These programs are absolutely horrid though I do understand that for sure.
@@bixx420 umm u need to google troubled teen industry. You are not taught that in troubled teen prorams. You get raped and abused and taught to be quiet
if she'd had even one supporter who could have let her know her options this wouldve been a different story
this is exactly right and it will keep on happening as long as this abstinence only bullshit is taught to teenagers.
The roommates said that her room was gross, messy, and smelled like dead animals. Then one of them finds a dead baby, and decides to PUT IT BACK and just go to fucking bed instead of calling 911.
Yes!!!! I am so glad someone brought that up!!! I was thinking the same thing
It's not right but there are quite a number of people that cope with denial. A mummified baby would be a horrific sight for anyone. It may have been so horrible they couldn't cope with it at first and needed to convince themselves it was just a weird doll.
I mean if you're in shock people can do anything tbh. no one goes to their roommate's room and expects to find a dead body
That too is horrific. How could they not call 911 immediately!?!?
Why wasn't she reported for having a nasty room ?? I thought that was against school regulations !
That's so f*cking sad. She knew about safe drop off places and everything but still chose to kill her. She claims her milk didn't come in but it absolutely would've if she'd feed that innocent baby properly. She wanted that baby to die period. She's a horrific monster.
her fake @ss crying and dumb excuses she gave when she was asked (why didn't you do something?), and acting so heartbroken and asking for her (mom) after she starved a baby.. A NEWBORN to death PISSED ME OFF
"I can't get that image out of my head"
Good! I hope it fking haunts you every single time you close your eyes
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*Yes! Exactly what I said to myself. Satan absolutely does roam this planet! This case is the perfect example.*
*May this precious baby girl Rest in Heaven.*
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She actually said "who dies like that?" Like are fucking kidding me ugh 😢
She doesn't look like it's haunting her tbh. I hope she reads these comments and realizes she's trash.
@@taraharvey8123....YES TARA , AND MAY THE LORD GOD BLESS YOU , TOO !!!! 🎉❤🙏🙏
This whole story from start to finish is just outrageous and heartbreaking.
Absolutely demonic. Babies dying over selfishness.
She starved her? Instead of dropping her at the fire department or something? Shes just worried about her boyfriend leaving or her parents judging HER not a care about that baby
Her boyfriend was sad the first baby didn’t make it even though he was blindsided, so her worry about that falls flat to me. Her parents might not approve, but she’s an independent grown woman who made a choice to have unprotected sex after firsthand experience with what could result. What gets me is she had a whole plan to take a sick day and take the baby to somewhere but instead of actually doing that she goes to work and hopes someone tells her to take a sick day as if she didn’t have more pressing concerns than what her coworkers thought of her taking a day off.
@@GreebleClown She probably had a lifetime of lying and could never be trusted. Caring so much about her job and her pitiful life of survival in a chaotic mess.
Who goes to sleep after finding a mummified baby? "Faith-based camp for troubled teens." Should we assume they didn't teach basic sex ed? "Intimacy before marriage was strongly discouraged." Yeah. Preaching abstinence always works.
While she is to blame for her choices, it really shows how shame and fear based religious preaching doesn't work. It does much more harm than good. Religion lead to me throwing myself on banisters to induce miscarriages because I was being molested. I almost certainly wasn't pregnant because there was never any sperm directly in my vagina, but I've got religious sex education to thank for that. 😊
Jaw DROPPED when I heard she just left the baby in a room… I can understand being shocked and overwhelmed, I can even get hiding a stillborn… but when that baby comes out alive… She said she was looking at safe drop locations, why didn’t she do that for THIS poor baby? “I don’t know” is NOT an excuse for not calling for help! 911 is free, what a monster.
How many times have you given birth?
@ How many times have you left braindead comments defending someone who left a baby to starve to death?
@@missyflutter5562you have to have given birth to understand it? You’re joking right? I have given birth once and will be giving birth twice to twins in June. I didn’t kill my baby.
@@HalfNHalf.so technically giving birth 3 times 😮
And it just keeps getting worse and worse
I ran out of colostrum when my son was 3 days old that was the same day we just got back from the hospital. That night was horrible I didn't realize I ran out but my son was CONSTANTLY crying, no one slept. I was sobbing I couldn't figure out why he was just constantly crying. I changed his diaper and his pee was brick yellow/red I panicked. It was 3AM in the morning I had my husband run to a 24 hour cvs to get formula so he could eat. There's no way if that baby starved no one else heard anything. Thankfully I got my supply in the next day but that was so scary.
Too disturbing for me to finish till the end. Thank you for bringing light to this horrific incident. RIP Angel baby girl.
I'm with you, babies and animals killed or harmed,I can't do it,my heart hurts for them.
Angel sounds perfect for this little lady.
@@christianward-nisbet8833i found court documents and her name was Lily. She was only named because baby Lily needed to have a name on her death certificate or some similar paperwork
According to an article listed in the murderpedia page for this evil being, someone who was in the court room said that this innocent baby’s name was Lily.
You'll be happy to know she got life in prison, possible parole in 25 years. She won't be having anymore babies.
This is one of the best interrogators/interviewers I’ve ever seen holy shit, he started off with empathy trying to understand but the way he snapped and ate her tf up at the end 😭😭
When he laughed when she mentioned “Knocked Up”…I know it was to build a connection with the perpetrator but damn I would not have been amused
A good interrogator is one that draws information out of a person. I personally think he launched into aggression too quickly and didn’t give her a lot of room to comfortably admit what she was thinking (which is what we would want).
Especially because she's an adult and he talks to her like one, as he should. He is fantastic.
One minute in they say it takes place in a "faith-based boarding institution for troubled teens", i can immediately tell it's gonna be twisted beyond belief. I've heard of many victims, hell, *survivors* of those places
Agree ❤
Yes. They’re places where abuse is rampant, and ‘purity culture’ MESSES people up.
Yeah. Cults.
Yup that's exactly what I thought too. A cult
@@sharonthompson672as a Christian I honestly think that to. Places like that are doomed to make stuff like this happen
This is the problem with strict religious parents bringing up very isolated and ignorant children. I get that she felt she couldn't turn to anyone. It's all a shame
I had my first child at 20 and learnt that breast milk can take up to 48 hrs to produce post labour. Colostrum is the fluid that comes in before breast milk, and contains antibodies for the baby. She didn't even try.
You cannot compare experiences of different mothers. I'm 29 and I didn't know that.
I’ve heard that in the UK women like this are not judged harshly or prosecuted, instead they are sent for mental help. It is in fact our culture that has caused this, the culture of slut shaming & looking down on unwed mothers
Woman that do things like this usually come from religious backgrounds, imagine that their fear of judgement is greater than their fear of murder. This is the society we have created & it won’t end till the judgment ends 💔❤️🩹💔
I had my first child at 13 years old. I would imagine that at 22 years old one should have more common sense.should have given the child up for adoption
Shame really
And considering she had a still born in the hospital she would have been told about the milk taking time because she still would have had milk come in when She delivered the stillborn baby. She wanted that baby dead. She could have bought formula at any time she had a car and a fucking job. She's evil AF...
@@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts You really just tried to blame this on everything but the person who gave birth. She isn't a mother.
This has nothing to do with religion. You are showing youe bias. People are judged regardless. She did it out of being selfish because she didn't want it it to interere with her and her mans life. Plain and simple.
Shaming people can be bad and good. In this case, good. She shouldn't be banging without protection if she didn't want a kid.
And send them to prison like her. Don't be soft or hide behind "sympathy for criminal" garbage.
Geez that room was disgusting.
Blame Management
@@DEBORAH4-ut9sznooo blame goes to JESSICA!! And JESSICA alone!!!!!!!!
girl you can’t sit there and look that detective in his face and say that you cared about that baby. you didn’t even give her a name.
25:00- She’s making me sick. She’s used to playing people, even able to generate fake tears at will.
6:10 "I didn't name her" broke my heart...
26:10 is where I heard it
@brokearse2011 and 6:10 you can hear it first.
Well I think it's good she didn't name the baby. She doesn't deserve to give a baby a name
@@aliciaraeb I wonder who ended up naming her and what they named her. Poor angel.
@@stevnated yes, poor sweet girl, I can't even imagine. 😔
When someone says, “I promise you I didn’t do anything “ its an indicator of lying
I swear to you I'm not lying. Like, on my Dad's ashes this is like the Gods honest truth shall God like strike me down if I'm lying.
No! she didn't do anything for her baby to survive.
“I swear to god I’m telling the truth I would tell you if I did”lmao they always say that! Damn liars
@@iwiwd624 its funny when you hear a person say this, it's almost always a lie.
An adult dating for 3 years… and you don’t tell anybody you’re pregnant….why??? Da fuq??
Yea I don’t get it either. It’s 2024. No excuses
@@toribern816theirs definitely no excuse but those religious places can be INSANE with their beliefs, shaming, and hatred. Idk what she was thinking. She ought to be ashamed of herself. I hope she does see that babies image frozen from being gone for so long everytime she closes her eyes. Absolutely appalling.
And the bf didn't know.
Purity culture.
Just hearing what that tiny, innocent baby had to go through, wow, it's hard to believe someone could be so selfish.
The detective questioning her looked visibly overwhelmed. I hope he's okay, this whole experience must've been soul-crushing.
The fact that she was drinking so heavily throughout the pregnancy absolutely would have brought judgement from everyone if the truth came out. Even the father would be questioning why she continued to drink so heavily. I think her shame added to her secrecy and deadly inaction.
Agreed, and I also think she was hoping to miscarry by drinking so heavily.
"All I had was clear stuff"
"I was hoping my milk would come in"
That clear stuff is colostrum and so so beneficial for the baby, and your milk will never come if you're not putting baby on the nipple to tell your body to make milk.
I am so annoyed listening to this bs.
I don't think she even tried to feed her.
@cemoihonay Unfortunately, I agree.
she didnt try, she didnt stay with the baby, she didnt do anything leave her to die
this detective was awesome. Eased her in with friendliness and gave her what for. Completely broke her down, and made her face the horrendous thing she did.
She shouldn't get let out of prison until after menopause if EVER. She's just like Keli Lane
This one pissed me off so much I have to comment twice. She didn't want to lose her job but yet she spends life in prison. Makes no sense and that poor baby...May she rest in peace.
I got pregnant with my first child when I was barely 20 and my boyfriend at the time told me either I abort or he would not be involved with me anymore or the baby. I was terrified.
But you know what I did? I told my support system. I started college at 10 weeks pregnant. When I found out that my son was going to be born with a birth defect, I was devastated but determined that we would get through it together.
My life changed forever, I was no longer allowed to be a carefree woman in my early twenties. But now, 8 years later, that boy is my whole world. He is the best big brother, the most creative kid, and he has the sweetest heart.
I couldn’t imagine not giving him the chance. I couldn’t imagine birthing a baby that I didn’t name.
I have no sympathy for this person at all whatsoever and I hope she never gets parole.
Proud of you, glad you made it through! Did your son end up having the birth defect? Take care, wishing the best for you and your family
@@MissMiaAfroGoddess thank you so much! He did, he was born with gastroschisis and spent a month in the NICU when he was born. He’s now a happy and healthy almost 8 year old though, other than not having a belly button you’d never be able to tell he was ever sick!
@@emilyturner5985 I don't understand how he doesn't have a belly button. We all get nourishment thru the umbilical cord, so was his removed during surgery post birth?
God bless you and your resilience. I hope you and your child have a fulfilling life
u should have worn protection, m0r0n lol
The odor didn't lead them to the baby. Them looking for a blanket lead them to the baby.
It’s a terrible shame that religious entities attach so much shame to sex. Using birth control isn’t allowed, sex before marriage isn’t allowed, having a baby while unmarried isn’t allowed, abortion is murder. Pastors often won’t marry couples who are pregnant. And you become persona non grata if you’re a single mother. There is little support for women in this predicament. I grew up in an evangelical church and there were so many tragedies in this same vein I left the church in my early twenties and have never looked back.
How About DON'T Have S*x, you won't get pregnant
Problem SOLVED
Don't blame faith, blame yourself for not controlling your LUST
They add shame so that you don't become a "Baby mama"