I quit going to the hall, because of the shunning. I knew Jesus would never treat people that way, plain and simple. They are so brainwashed, they won't listen to any reason.
I am so sorry to hear that. I to was shunned about 20 yrs ago. I did research and learned it was not the truth and have been happy I am out. I hope you find peace.
We are a rather large community who have experienced the effects of being shunned, which feels completely opposite to what we understand love to be. I've never had an elder reach out to see how I am, emotionally, spiritually, or otherwise. I regret to admit I was suicidal at one point because I was still connecting the organization to God almighty and felt very unworthy to live. One day, I will tell my story. It has taken much prayer, time, and study to rewire that old judgemental JW thinking, which is very similar to the former scribes and phrases Jesus denounced while here on earth. They didn't like him reasoning with them and performed the ultimate shunning of him also. Our heavenly family absolutely loves us regardless of how others view or treat us. There is so much evidence in the New Testament to prove this. Christ came to set matters straight as things had really gone off the rails for the former chosen ones. We are now under the new law of love, which supercedes the old laws that had their purpose fulfilled once our savior made it safely through an undefiled lineage. Just love with all your heart, and you will find the truth.
My ex wife’s uncle was DF . He had asked the elder that he wanted reinstatement and was told “I don’t have time for this we are building a Kingdom Hall” He killed himself that day . What a waste . And what a way to treat someone
We should pray sincerely for those we love that are still in fear. We should pray for our children, parents, any friends we lost. My Jehovah open their eyes and rescue them. We still love them.
Eric, my friend, i just want to say Thank You to you for posting your videos. I only just recently came across them, and have been watching them. It has been many years since I have left the organization, and have been just reading my NIV bible on my own. I would not say about myself that i have a deep understanding of everything in the bible, (but i think that is okay. Jesus did say that the simple were the ones who understood his message.), so that is why I appreciate your videos. They are informative and promote bible understanding. I actually have been avoiding ex-JW content because they tend to bend towards being hateful. I find that to be discouraging. I am looking for encouragement, not negativity. But at the same time i do want to know the truth. You are doing a good thing, and i appreciate it.
I was DF 3 times . Reinstatement 3 times . Then I woke up finally last year and my family shunned me again so I took the decision to dissasociate myself. I took back my power . Now it’s on my terms. Disfellowshipping is cruel and unchristian and unnecessary
Thank you Eric! I can think of a very lovely sister who will be thrilled to see you cover this topic, it was on her wish list. She was hoping you would do a video on this subject:-) You never disappoint:-)
Good job, Eric! A few years ago I wrote to the GB that if they didn't change their unbiblical doctrines, including shunning policy, God would use his "servant" from Romans 13:1-7 to correct them. The latest events probably show that it's going to happen soon.
Thank you for shedding light on this very harmful practice, Eric. I never realized how mean, judgemental, and hurtful this form of 'discipline' was until I experienced it myself. I can not imagine our loving heavenly family ever coming up with such a destructive way of handling the flock.
@@isaiah30v8 Jesus was speaking in hyperbole's (exaggerations) ... what he meant was that you should always seek him first... he never meant to shun your brother or sister... Jesus also said that heaven and earth would pass, but not his words... does that mean that heaven and earth sometime won't exist anymore? ... Jesus also says to sell all your belongings and follow him... has any human being on earth done that?... there you go... learn and think with your heart and mind...
@@isaiah30v8your right Jesus said it would happen. Who knew it would be the Jws that were and would be lost. Those who have love among them are Jesus true followers. Jws are the ones who are still in…are the ones we must be ready to lose.. I’m afraid your interpretation is backwards.🤦🏻♂️🙏
Where I don't have T.V. (Cable) Just cheap internet, which gives me what I need. I don't watch the news, because they only report what needs to be seen. But what I just heard from this video shocked me. I've been by their words disfellowshipped since 2007. I thought of going back, but there was an obstacle presented before me to make that step. I never kept taps of what was going on their religion. Anyhow I've been asked back then by some whom would come up to me and asked if I thought of coming back. Well about month and a half ago I had one, whom I respected as dear friend. Came up to me put on arm around me and asked "Do you ever of thinking coming back" My answer "always" and he said "That's a start" Then I stumbled on these videos which showed up in my Gmail. I was hooked. I have watch 1/3rd of the back and present videos. Would I ever go back them or their congregation... NO... I was so blinded and soaked in all their writings, teachings, council, told what and not to do, whom I should fellowship with. I was a their puppet. It really makes me feel sick. My heart goes out to my old friends whom I haven't talked to or seen. I hope they see and their heart up. But As I have heard they, the Gov. Body twist their words like a snake. I would like to thank Eric and the people who help in producing these videos. looking forward to the next video.
Beautiful Eric!..Cant wait for the next video..I fully appreciate your corrective guidance...Yes shunning is unlovingly hurtful and shamefully disgraceful..How we need to not touch this unclean thing by not sharing in her sin and so staying clear of her plague. Are we not a log snatched out of the fire!..Indeed!..All my love mi hermano!..😊
Another well spoken clarification. I'm looking forward to the next video. I'm looking forward also to reading your recent book. Thank you for the clarity that is missing from the majority of Bible based discussions no matter their source.
Thank you for continuing to share your well reasoned biblical logic, I greatly appreciate it and consider it a precious gift that offers relief from the limitless void of contentious arguments.
Great job Eric. I am being shunned as I write this comment. It’s been at least 3 weeks since I sent my letters to my friends and not ONE has responded to ask what led me to disassociate. Its a feeling of sadness and emptiness and a terrible loss. It’s very difficult to deal with. Thank you for all your wonderful work. ❤
Dear Ludmilla a big hello was born in left 3 years ago at 80 years of age and my brother and cousin do not speak anymore lost a huge amount of friends yes it is not easy GOD IS YOUR REFUGE much love Bev
Greetings Bev. Unseen to yourself YOU have many friends Bev, we are spread around the planet, also invisible 'eternal' friends. There is a reason shunning is called 'inhumane', it is soul and spirit destroying.
And here something else - You do not even have to be Shunned to be directed away by the Elders. If you accidently put a foot wrong or upset someone unintentionally, you can and will be driven away, yes effectively engineered out. They have 'door staff'; the doors will be shut through the Meeting; it's true, so much Double Talk and Bigotry goes on behind in secret and the Elders gang up on you. Not even the Circuit Overseer will be contactable, the Circuit Overseer only appears once a year to shake your hand. The Branch Office will not entertain your problem and will certainly not respond to your request to deal with anything in person but just roll off their tongue a Pre-Selected 'once verse fits all' Bible Verse. The whole thing is a sham. There's no evidence of real love in my experience, it's just like a pub quiz with no prizes. If you want a clue, the answers in the Watch Tower study are all in the above paragraph. So much Bigoted people in Suits, so much Bigotry you wouldn't believe.
David- Isn't it amazing that the WT organization coerces JWs to spend 2 billion hours every year to gain new converts, yet, when one of their own becomes inactive or is allegedly guilty of some infraction for which they are not even disfellowshipped for, ALL JWs turn their back on them and do not even try to help?! It's a horrible business model (and WT is a business)! It is like a salesman working 17,000 hours to get one new customer, yet he doesn't even try to keep the customers _he already has._ Miss a few meetings and all of your "friends" forget about you, and the Elders certainly aren't going to check up on you. They don't care enough to make a simple phone call.
Yes, David. And I personally had that experience with Watchtower. The Elders will gang up on you. And Watchtower headquarters will not consider fervent pleas for justice.
Encore une fois un grand merci pour vos vidéos. Vraimentt dommage qu'on ne puisse les écouter directement en français. Néanmoins, je vous remercie sincèrement pour tout le travail que vous faites vous et votre équipe. Have a good Day !
Gogs final attack accompanied by a great crowd..and clouds..such imagery always frightened me..clouds covering the land ! How can anyone escape CLOUDS !?? Ezek 38. But how well that description fits the advent of social media..which has enabled the GATHERING TOGETHER of isolated people from different parts of the earth..to coalesce into a community of ex jw,s..who can united oppose the Governing Body and offer support..( spoken of as ones taking cover under shelter...safely away from HAILSTONES @ rev 16:8-11)
@@marielle3866 c'est très gentil de votre part de me le signaler. C'est ce que je fais. Je regrette que le site Étude Béréenne soit sans suite depuis environ 1 an. Écouter dans sa propre langue maternelle est plus confortable et permet de mieux saisir toutes les subtilités vu l'importance et la profondeur de la Bible. Bonne soirée !
Up until 25 years ago they were able to keep a closed community and avoid apostates and be their own isolated group. But now with the internet....no more. The shunning won't work anymore. They're going to have to shun half of the followers as more and more people wake up.
Bravo Eric! As I look at just a few of the comments following this video the collective comments have made it all to evident that the reasoning surrounding this subject that you have made are true and good. Well done and we look forward to the next installment.
Eric this was a great great video. As sad and undeserving of the lives lost, Watchtower is fully responsible for ALL the deaths involved. This entire institution is riddled with decades of murder suicides. The entire leadership very undeserstands the effects of SHUNNING. They simply don't care, because it fulfills their narrative when someone leaves and resorts to drugs alcohol ect. These shunned individuals are self medicating because of their internal emotional pain that they are suffering due to loosing their entire social network they ever knew. If an ex members flounders in such debauchery then this will only APPEAR to prove true and give a false sense of credibility to the cult's leadership. Then this will give the entire organization of appearing as the "True Religion " ..the brainwashed members don't KNOW that ALL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS CLAIM TO BE THE TRUE RELIGION. THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCES ARE IS THEIR DOCTRINES. Religious leaders are running a PONZI SCHEME. Their tools are Shame Obligation and Guilt. And the GB will take your family just like the mafia. Watchtower's time is now up. The world is tired of their hate towards others not like them, their hate towards the government and the mentality cruelty/CSA towards their members. Watchtower will now be exposed on a worldwide 🌐 level. The leadership will be stigmatized in the worst way. And there will be nothing this DOOMSDAY CULT will be able to do about it.
Our Lord and Saviour is exposing them as he promised...Come Lord Jesus...they have drag Jehovah's name through the mud...who will go to clear his Glorious name??? Eric thanks for all you do in restoring our Creator's Name!!!! tears is just streaming down my face by the destruction of innocent lives destroyed by this Organization!!!!
It looks like the Watchtower Society is about to fall any time now. Their dirty secrets should be brought to the light of truth, even if it embarrasses their so-called "God Jehovah", for those dirty secrets are what embarrass and dishonor the true God of the Holy Bible.
Indeed. The Watchtower Society's Governing Body deserves all the reproach not only for their cruel shunning policy but also for covering up cases of child sexual abuse (CSA). They should also be prosecuted for ordering their elders to destroy documented evidence of reports of sexual abuse against children in their congregations over the years.
A while ago...I finished watching the movie "Jesus of Nazareth" . The Pharissees in this movie reminds me of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I always enjoy your videos eric. but this was a particularly powerful presentation. TY for all the hours and hard work of preparing this clear and logical presentation.
Thank you Eric. It appears that the Society is collapsing under its own weight. I spoke w/ my 83 yo mother a few days ago (having not spoken with her for about 5 months) and she as much as hung up on me because she had to prepare/study for her meeting that night. Clinging to it with everything she has left.
Well done br Eric. Clear and informative. Very faith strengthening and enthusing to spiritual growth. In the Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures is a frequent term, 'strength to strength' where as the Greek scriptures it is 'faith to faith'. Same meaning. Demonstrate faith and that faith grows stronger. I see this in you sense you started your podcast in the beginning. It is also evident in the comments returning back. Your words are strengthening the faith of the crushed and disappointed ones, giving us a truly stronger and living faith. This was originally the purpose of the WTBTS, to lovingly cultivate and grow mature followers of our Lord. Thank you br. Eric for stepping up and filling that vacuum. A life well lived.
Beautiful video! I was disassociated then a few years later disfellowshiped, years ago. I since then got reinstated but have faded away. The mental pressure was terrible I still suffer from mental illness now. I have family in JW. I have become born again I’m a little nervous that if they find out I’ll be seen as an apostate reported then shunned. Lord JESUS, please help us. Ps: I’m looking forward to your next video!
@@flostep9887 I know this. I was just voicing my dismay and sadness when that time comes. It’s sad to lose your only close family members. God always comes first.
I am a somewhat now faded JW baptized 30 yrs ago. In general however in those yrs my friends and associates were mostly "worldly" non-jw. Of course the congregation is also a social network but the "love" of the bros/sis is , in general, quite superficial, unless you do develop close relationships as I did. But i was not emotionally dependent on "the congregation" at all -at any time - so fading out for me was easy. My siblings however are still heavy duty JWs and, except for one of my sisters who doesnt speak to me for no other reason that i dont go to meetings ( therefore a bad associate) the rest of us get on well though if i was actually DFed, that would change. If i ever were to be DFed it would not concern me too much in regards to my siblings because it would show the superficiality and conditionality of their "christian love" and the fakery of it all. The intense irony of my sister is that she spends much of her time "teaching" the bible to others ( via studies and witnessing) about the virtues of being christian ,yet refuses to spend any meaningful time in helping look after the needs of our father ( also a JW baptised at 80 to appease the family) who resides in a nursing home in the SAME suburb as her and my siblings. JWs are fully conditioned and convinced to NEVER question ( CANNOT question) the GB under ANY circumstance. Of course the penalty in doing so almost ALWAYS leads to disfellowshipping/ shunning so its almost the perfect mechanism of control. If the GB came out and did a complete about face on some doctrine under the guise of "new light", the rank and file would accept it regardless. The definition of "New light" is whatever the GB says it is. Yet the founder of the JWs , Charles Russel said that "new light" ( new understanding) never replaces " old light"( old understanding) but only builds on it. The trouble is that a lot of the "old understanding" has been fully discarded( eg pre 1950, the JWs viewed excommunication ( aka disfellowshipping) as a tool of the devil practiced by false religion ( namely the catholics) and was unsupported by scripture yet now they embrace it as a key part of their "christian love" fruitage. The "judicial" system as practiced by the JWs is very much pharisaical but the majority are conditioned not to see it like that and believe its "christian" because the GB wholly defines for them what is "christian". If the GB does not approve of some view, automatically this becomes the view of the majority and to question that ALWAYS leads to consequences. Ive observed this in my 30+ yrs as a JW but also as one not wanting to "progress" or desiring to "reach out" for any position of "authority"- mind you, its never called "authority" but as an elder or MS you are supposedly just a "lowly servant" to the brothers looking after their spiritual needs with Jesus as your master. The reality however is otherwise.
_"the JWs viewed excommunication ( aka disfellowshipping) as a tool of the devil practiced by false religion ( namely the catholics) and was unsupported by scripture yet now they embrace it"_ WT has embraced a great many practices and beliefs it formerly condemned as unscriptural and Satanic. Tells you a lot about the organization, doesn't it? They are masters of flip flopping, self-contradiction and hypocrisy.
This happened to me yesterday. A family member of mine died and I wanted to reach out to my aunts who I haven’t seen or spoke to in 15 yrs. (They are elders wives and pioneers) ( I am still a witness not df) I still go. My aunt wouldn’t talk to me unless I proved myself, she wanted to know the name of my elders my congregation if we were still on zoom it was like Nazi Germany she was trying to see if I was real and if I was who I said I was so she wanted to call my CO as well. She knows very well who I am so I gave her my elders information and everything and it still wasn’t good enough I finally told her she can stick it where the sun doesn’t shine and you know what her response was “See I knew you weren’t a true Christian.” So she basically baited me pushed me and pushed me treated me like crap and then when I reacted to her she sat back and said see. That’s what people in this organization do they treat other people like absolute crap and then when they react to it and stand up for themselves they cry persecution and say oh see I knew you weren’t Christian no that’s narcissistic gaslighting. Disgraceful. Because of the shunning and treating family the way they do their efforts in the ministry are absolutely futile and they can’t see it.
Great job for standing up to them they have a problem not you you don't follow man's teaching you follow God's it took a lot of nerve to do what you did to stand up to them all jehovas witnesses are terrified to stand up to thier leaders because they follow their teachings not Jehovas raise your head up high and look forward not what's behind you for what's behind you is not from God
From outwards appearance we can't judge whether he is a good christian bcos we don't read his heart except Jehovah God.Good works do not cover only preaching works but many others like exercising generousity,kindness filiality to parents,purity of hearts ,honesty n fairness
I was shunned one month ago and I did nothing unscriptural. My feiends in the congregation who own a hot dog stand told me "They said that we can't talk to you." The wife said, "I can only smile at you" 🤔🤫🤐..........But I thought that they had "free will" 🤷🏾♀️.......I am looking for an attorney. They need to be stopped ✋🏿 ✋🏿 ✋🏿
Nope, we were never given free will within the Watchtower Organization. “ Answer in you own words according to the things written for you in the paragraph” and “No independent thinking brothers and sisters.”… Do you remember those words? 😂
The biggest problem jw have ,you can show them something in the Bible ,that CLEARLY contradict there beliefs ,and they will really believe in there heart that you are trying to trick them,the second big problem they have ,they will believe the word of men ,in the wt mag as truth thats FULL of speculations ,before they believe the word of God ,So Sad!!,Isaiah 48:17-18 ,Genesis 40:8 ,Jeremiah 17:5
The Leaders have the Rank and File vulnerable while they treat ex members that way...which results in these horrible actions. The whole while the Leaders are living in their well fortified Compounds!
You’re Amazing Eric!!! Thank you for speaking up!! 🔥🔥🔥 Doug gave a public marking talk about me in 2019, because I “put fitness ahead of Jehovah” ??!??!
So are you! Been watching your TikTok. Well done! Doug?! Don't get me started... 😞 For them, Jehovah is the Organization and the Organization is Jehovah. So sad.
"Unbiblical" shunning practices? Is there anyone who dare says, "Un-Christlike" shunning practices? Why is almost everyone of ALL "Christian" religious groups giving "The Bible" credence and a more prominent position than the one God commanded us to listen to, His Son. (Luke 9:35) Personally, I do not care what "a book" says about a matter, I care about what "Christ" says (and taught his Apostles). Is not Christ Jesus "The Word of God?" How in the world did a book usurp that holy position? So there are two "Words of God?" No! Just as there is one God, there is only one Word of God, Jesus Christ. Yet, many time and time again show a lack of faith in him by referring to a "book" and what "it:" says. How about what Christ says? He is not dead you know. He ascended but is still with us. (Matt 28:19-20) God sent is His Son. Men sent a book. Obey God's command to "Listen to His Son." If He wanted us to listen to a book, He would have said so. Inspite of what has been written here, people are hard-headed and will still place a book above the one who "is" The Word of God. It is Christ who condemns shunning, not a book.
I have a question with all due respect ,what BOOK are you talking about? 🤔 ,i hope you are talking about watch tower publications ,or wt (books and mags). also you pointed to Luke 9:35 what book did you get that verse from .🤔 John 8:31-32
Hello Brother Eric, Thanks for the video. Please would you put part 1 of 2 or something like that. So it's easier to work out the order of this new video series you've put together. Thanks again. 🙂
I just understand why Anthony Morris is not part of the GB. He is the goat for changing a policy. He was who insist that the policy would never change. So, now will look like he was in his own view, not the GB. A simple way, a normal political way, to escape for a bad decision.
JWs isolate themselves . Disfellowshipping was used once when a Christian man was the talk of the town about a grave sin and later it was used by prideful men to throw people out of the congregation. 3 John 1:9,10 This practice was used sparingly. I belong to Paul I belong to Apollo’s I belong to the GB. People with mental illness can’t handle more rejection. Years ago I heard about a man that got DFd in Australia, he lost his wife, kids and job. He would break into the elders house and poison the milk. The elders family got very sick. At the time I wondered why these things didn’t happen more often. When you lose everything........ Maybe Jehovah has released the winds against the JWs. The elders have never had fear of their actions..... as an elder told me.... oh they thought the pain this person was feeling was amusing I told them about-they thought it was funny.... until I told them and they have a gun. Not fun anymore... they thought for a minute and said oh people like that just end up using it on themselves. No fear-Jehovah protects them.
Great video brother Eric, I think, Watchtower should be broken up all assets sold. And the money distributed to all members. Especially the people with no decent pension. Because they wasted their early years working for free for Watchtower.
This is what they wanted to do. No one forced them. Why don't you ask them. They have no regrets. They will be taken care of by the Watchtower and bros and sisters. The Watchtower will NEVER go down. They have Jehovah's backing.
@@helenjacox9817 You are right they were not forced. They were manipulated. By Watchtower leaders the "governing body" Much like a person who is tricked by a con man into parting with money. Those rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses were conned. So you could say of a person who is conned out of their life savings. This is what rhey wanted to do. Finally, the Watchtower does not have Jehovah’s backing. He does not support evil religious leaders who deliberately lie. A clear example of a Watchtower lie. Is the 1914 doctrine. There are many more Watchtower lies i could mention.
@@helenjacox9817 Women and non-elders weren't allowed to see tge Shepherding book. It has secret teachings. The women and non-elders were not fully informed. The religion called Jehovah's Witnesses is part of Babylon the Great.
The shunning contributed to my ex-husband’s suicide. Not the entire reason, but part of it. No surprise the impact of shunning and destroying families is creating havoc and violence.
I enjoyed meetings more When i was shunned..😂 That shocked me!!! 😮 Really... I am a very artistic person. Im not average. I am not normal. So. I never fit in anyway... Why was it when isolated from all, only then....able to see. Interesting isnt it.
My dearest friend a devout JW would not discuss anything happening against wt Germany etc told me remember it's expected we are in the last days of the last days don't think about it.any how thankyou for your recent video on scriptural doctrine of shunning.
Watching Tony Morris at 15:08 and smiling to myself. Somewhere right now good ol' Tony is feeling sting of being on the receiving end of the so-called congregational discipline. I'm sure he knows to never speak freely now though, lest he get the full "apostate" treatment.
I heard JW saying not know when Armaggedon coming. Also stop preaching time for JW members. And active JW not to be judgmental to Ex JW or DF cause might be in new world order. Only God can judge not man. Big changes for JW now.Thank you for your hard work and vids!
Why are you JW's that are commenting on an 'apostate' channel in the first place? Your GB says you're not supposed to do that. So supposedly he is wrong and you are wrong but it's okay for you to be wrong (and disobedient) and also have the nerve to lecture somebody else? 👌🏽😂
I have commented on this on a different video and was told by a Witness that she is her own person and will do as she sees fit! 😊. Apparently she finds it perfectly acceptable to view and comment on 'apostate' videos. I wonder what the elders in her congregation would have to say about her associating with 'apostates'?
@Dutchess 1st according to the elders manual, she can get disciplined for that. If she's her own person, I'd love to see her boldly proclaim that to the elders in her congregation. She won't, though, in a million years.
Hello, I hope I can help answer your question. For many, their whole family is a JW. Imagine being a very young person, and being kicked out of the only home you ever knew. Getting no help from any friends or family. They refuse to help or talk to you. This scenario happens repeatedly. Now, if a person is not young, but older, again, imagine you're children no longer speaking to you, maybe you have grandchildren and you're no longer allowed to see them or speak to them. Maybe you had friends for decades, and they stop association with you. These are only a couple of scenarios. All of which can be mentally and emotionally debilitating. It is a form of abuse. Many commit suicide. Many have to go to a therapist to deal with the extreme depression they now have. You mentioned you wouldn't have an issue with someone no longer talking to you, and that's great for you. But please don't project how you would react, to how others should react. We all have our own way of coping and dealing with trauma. And shunning is certainly abusive and traumatic. Hope this information helps.
A year and a half ago I walked away. Too much two faced behaviour from fellow witnesses and the g.b. Updating of the online nwt. Causing division by forbidding those not jabbed from attending the hall, or pioneer school or elder school. No elder has contacted me since I walked away, not once. I did receive a telephone message from an elder's wife about the Memorial saying that their Memorial was at the assembly hall, but I could go to a different memorial at a nearby hotel. Kind of like a slap in the face. I must say I do not miss anything about being jw. Granted I am on my own and the only one in my family who was jw, so it has been sonewhat easier for me than for others.
Jesus would never shun anyone. He would love them, say hello, check in on them in hopes of reaching them, but would certainly not show outward distain towards someone like the Witnesses do. You don’t associate with them but certainly love them in hopes of reaching them someday. My opinion.
What did Jesus call Judas Iscariot. Traitor, slanderer, thief.He was not going to put up with it .when it was time to celebrate the wine and the bread, Jesus said: Not All of You Are Clean. Jesus dismissed Judas. He lost heavenly life permanently. He is dead and will Never be resurrected. Did Jesus feel bad? Absolutely not. Elders just don't disfellowship you.they try very hard to help you. They will spend hours with you. But the person does not want to be a JW anymore. So now you are unclean in Jehovah's and Jesus eyes. The decision comes down from heaven and Gods holy spirit let's them know what must be done Just think about it.
I am Josephine demirbas Joseph's mum I am Jehovah's witness stop apostating we die for Jehovah stop turning every thing to your reasons your opinion we know we are hated
@osasgideon8431 - What is biblical is removing a wicked man from among the congregation that gathers to worship together. That is not shunning? If I work for a company and they remove me by firing me, that is not shunning? The company doesn't require all the employees to have nothing to do with me, not even to say hello to me if they pass me on the street. You see how you can be so easily played by the Organization? They start by defining shunning, get you to accept their definition, then tell you that 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 supports their definition and application of the word, when it fact, it does nothing of the sort.
Hi Jacob, maybe you want to prove all how or what are that's proved. Maybe you can put some examples, so we can see how. Because you will be very happy to prove the point for yourself and for everybody else. Right? But if you don't have at least 25 years, of least, please avoid going forward. But you are free to try anyway. Remember God gives us free will, so you are completely free to do what you want.😇✌
I quit going to the hall, because of the shunning. I knew Jesus would never treat people that way, plain and simple. They are so brainwashed, they won't listen to any reason.
i was shunned over 20 years ago and I still feel the pain as mental anguish and emotional Pain.
I am so sorry to hear that. I to was shunned about 20 yrs ago. I did research and learned it was not the truth and have been happy I am out. I hope you find peace.
We are a rather large community who have experienced the effects of being shunned, which feels completely opposite to what we understand love to be.
I've never had an elder reach out to see how I am, emotionally, spiritually, or otherwise.
I regret to admit I was suicidal at one point because I was still connecting the organization to God almighty and felt very unworthy to live. One day, I will tell my story.
It has taken much prayer, time, and study to rewire that old judgemental JW thinking, which is very similar to the former scribes and phrases Jesus denounced while here on earth. They didn't like him reasoning with them and performed the ultimate shunning of him also.
Our heavenly family absolutely loves us regardless of how others view or treat us. There is so much evidence in the New Testament to prove this.
Christ came to set matters straight as things had really gone off the rails for the former chosen ones. We are now under the new law of love, which supercedes the old laws that had their purpose fulfilled once our savior made it safely through an undefiled lineage.
Just love with all your heart, and you will find the truth.
I've been shunned 200 yrs now.
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@@vintage6346 😂 I hope so!
My ex wife’s uncle was DF . He had asked the elder that he wanted reinstatement and was told “I don’t have time for this we are building a Kingdom Hall”
He killed himself that day . What a waste . And what a way to treat someone
So sad, and yet so believable.
I'm sorry to hear of that. Much ❤️.
We should pray sincerely for those we love that are still in fear. We should pray for our children, parents, any friends we lost. My Jehovah open their eyes and rescue them. We still love them.
My Heart aches for all those still inside including my Daughter and Grand Children may Jehovah and The Lord Jesus rescue them..
Eric, my friend, i just want to say Thank You to you for posting your videos. I only just recently came across them, and have been watching them. It has been many years since I have left the organization, and have been just reading my NIV bible on my own. I would not say about myself that i have a deep understanding of everything in the bible, (but i think that is okay. Jesus did say that the simple were the ones who understood his message.), so that is why I appreciate your videos. They are informative and promote bible understanding. I actually have been avoiding ex-JW content because they tend to bend towards being hateful. I find that to be discouraging. I am looking for encouragement, not negativity. But at the same time i do want to know the truth. You are doing a good thing, and i appreciate it.
I was DF 3 times . Reinstatement 3 times . Then I woke up finally last year and my family shunned me again so I took the decision to dissasociate myself. I took back my power . Now it’s on my terms. Disfellowshipping is cruel and unchristian and unnecessary
Thank you Eric! I can think of a very lovely sister who will be thrilled to see you cover this topic, it was on her wish list. She was hoping you would do a video on this subject:-) You never disappoint:-)
Thanks DF!
Good job, Eric! A few years ago I wrote to the GB that if they didn't change their unbiblical doctrines, including shunning policy, God would use his "servant" from Romans 13:1-7 to correct them. The latest events probably show that it's going to happen soon.
You are so right...My husband is divorcing me because I woke up and left the Organization...
@@flostep9887 Let him go, you're not his slave. When he opens his eyes he'll regret it, I guess.
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I'm sorry for your pain. Marriage is supposed to last until death. Watchtower hypocritically destroys marriage.
Thank you for shedding light on this very harmful practice, Eric.
I never realized how mean, judgemental, and hurtful this form of 'discipline' was until I experienced it myself.
I can not imagine our loving heavenly family ever coming up with such a destructive way of handling the flock.
Matt 5:43-48
@@isaiah30v8 Jesus was speaking in hyperbole's (exaggerations) ... what he meant was that you should always seek him first... he never meant to shun your brother or sister... Jesus also said that heaven and earth would pass, but not his words... does that mean that heaven and earth sometime won't exist anymore? ... Jesus also says to sell all your belongings and follow him... has any human being on earth done that?... there you go... learn and think with your heart and mind...
Hmm..
Well..considering the difficulties and pain it causes has it played part in fulfilling rev 11:6 & rev 16:8-11 ?
@@isaiah30v8your right Jesus said it would happen. Who knew it would be the Jws that were and would be lost. Those who have love among them are Jesus true followers. Jws are the ones who are still in…are the ones we must be ready to lose.. I’m afraid your interpretation is backwards.🤦🏻♂️🙏
Where I don't have T.V. (Cable) Just cheap internet, which gives me what I need. I don't watch the news, because they only report what needs to be seen. But what I just heard from this video shocked me. I've been by their words disfellowshipped since 2007. I thought of going back, but there was an obstacle presented before me to make that step. I never kept taps of what was going on their religion. Anyhow I've been asked back then by some whom would come up to me and asked if I thought of coming back. Well about month and a half ago I had one, whom I respected as dear friend. Came up to me put on arm around me and asked "Do you ever of thinking coming back" My answer "always" and he said "That's a start"
Then I stumbled on these videos which showed up in my Gmail. I was hooked. I have watch 1/3rd of the back and present videos.
Would I ever go back them or their congregation... NO...
I was so blinded and soaked in all their writings, teachings, council, told what and not to do, whom I should fellowship with. I was a their puppet. It really makes me feel sick. My heart goes out to my old friends whom I haven't talked to or seen. I hope they see and their heart up.
But As I have heard they, the Gov. Body twist their words like a snake. I would like to thank Eric and the people who help in producing these videos. looking forward to the next video.
Beautiful Eric!..Cant wait for the next video..I fully appreciate your corrective guidance...Yes shunning is unlovingly hurtful and shamefully disgraceful..How we need to not touch this unclean thing by not sharing in her sin and so staying clear of her plague.
Are we not a log snatched out of the fire!..Indeed!..All my love mi hermano!..😊
Thank you Eric . You explained this crystal clear ! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Another well spoken clarification. I'm looking forward to the next video. I'm looking forward also to reading your recent book. Thank you for the clarity that is missing from the majority of Bible based discussions no matter their source.
Thank you for continuing to share your well reasoned biblical logic, I greatly appreciate it and consider it a precious gift that offers relief from the limitless void of contentious arguments.
Couldn’t agree more, thanks so much for sharing.
Great job Eric. I am being shunned as I write this comment. It’s been at least 3 weeks since I sent my letters to my friends and not ONE has responded to ask what led me to disassociate. Its a feeling of sadness and emptiness and a terrible loss. It’s very difficult to deal with. Thank you for all your wonderful work. ❤
Dear Ludmilla a big hello was born in left 3 years ago at 80 years of age and my brother and cousin do not speak anymore lost a huge amount of friends yes it is not easy GOD IS YOUR REFUGE much love Bev
Thank you for your support and friendship, Ludmilla.
What great courage you display, Bev.
Greetings Bev. Unseen to yourself YOU have many friends Bev, we are spread around the planet, also invisible 'eternal' friends.
There is a reason shunning is called 'inhumane', it is soul and spirit destroying.
@@JamesHughes-up9zn thanks James very true and help. From on HIGH strengthen us .
Well presented Eric! I hope this video finds its way to many to see it in the right light.
And here something else - You do not even have to be Shunned to be directed away by the Elders. If you accidently put a foot wrong or upset someone unintentionally, you can and will be driven away, yes effectively engineered out. They have 'door staff'; the doors will be shut through the Meeting; it's true, so much Double Talk and Bigotry goes on behind in secret and the Elders gang up on you. Not even the Circuit Overseer will be contactable, the Circuit Overseer only appears once a year to shake your hand. The Branch Office will not entertain your problem and will certainly not respond to your request to deal with anything in person but just roll off their tongue a Pre-Selected 'once verse fits all' Bible Verse. The whole thing is a sham. There's no evidence of real love in my experience, it's just like a pub quiz with no prizes. If you want a clue, the answers in the Watch Tower study are all in the above paragraph. So much Bigoted people in Suits, so much Bigotry you wouldn't believe.
David- Isn't it amazing that the WT organization coerces JWs to spend 2 billion hours every year to gain new converts, yet, when one of their own becomes inactive or is allegedly guilty of some infraction for which they are not even disfellowshipped for, ALL JWs turn their back on them and do not even try to help?!
It's a horrible business model (and WT is a business)! It is like a salesman working 17,000 hours to get one new customer, yet he doesn't even try to keep the customers _he already has._
Miss a few meetings and all of your "friends" forget about you, and the Elders certainly aren't going to check up on you. They don't care enough to make a simple phone call.
Yes, David. And I personally had that experience with Watchtower. The Elders will gang up on you. And Watchtower headquarters will not consider fervent pleas for justice.
Thank you brother Eric. You always have a balanced loving interpretation.
Encore une fois un grand merci pour vos vidéos. Vraimentt dommage qu'on ne puisse les écouter directement en français. Néanmoins, je vous remercie sincèrement pour tout le travail que vous faites vous et votre équipe. Have a good Day !
Gogs final attack accompanied by a great crowd..and clouds..such imagery always frightened me..clouds covering the land !
How can anyone escape CLOUDS !??
Ezek 38.
But how well that description fits the advent of social media..which has enabled the GATHERING TOGETHER of isolated people from different parts of the earth..to coalesce into a community of ex jw,s..who can united oppose the Governing Body and offer support..( spoken of as ones taking cover under shelter...safely away from HAILSTONES @ rev 16:8-11)
Tu peux mettre les sous titres en français dans les paramètres même si la traduction automatique n'est pas parfaite.
@@marielle3866 c'est très gentil de votre part de me le signaler. C'est ce que je fais. Je regrette que le site Étude Béréenne soit sans suite depuis environ 1 an. Écouter dans sa propre langue maternelle est plus confortable et permet de mieux saisir toutes les subtilités vu l'importance et la profondeur de la Bible. Bonne soirée !
Up until 25 years ago they were able to keep a closed community and avoid apostates and be their own isolated group. But now with the internet....no more. The shunning won't work anymore. They're going to have to shun half of the followers as more and more people wake up.
We here united for a common history needed to re-start our lives with a healing perspective. Christ is the starting point to go on
Bravo Eric! As I look at just a few of the comments following this video the collective comments have made it all to evident that the reasoning surrounding this subject that you have made are true and good. Well done and we look forward to the next installment.
Eric this was a great great video.
As sad and undeserving of the lives lost, Watchtower is fully responsible for ALL the deaths involved. This entire institution is riddled with decades of murder suicides. The entire leadership very undeserstands the effects of SHUNNING. They simply don't care, because it fulfills their narrative when someone leaves and resorts to drugs alcohol ect. These shunned individuals are self medicating because of their internal emotional pain that they are suffering due to loosing their entire social network they ever knew. If an ex members flounders in such debauchery then this will only APPEAR to prove true and give a false sense of credibility to the cult's leadership. Then this will give the entire organization of appearing as the "True Religion " ..the brainwashed members don't KNOW that ALL RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS CLAIM TO BE THE TRUE RELIGION. THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCES ARE IS THEIR DOCTRINES. Religious leaders are running a PONZI SCHEME. Their tools are Shame Obligation and Guilt. And the GB will take your family just like the mafia. Watchtower's time is now up. The world is tired of their hate towards others not like them, their hate towards the government and the mentality cruelty/CSA towards their members. Watchtower will now be exposed on a worldwide 🌐 level. The leadership will be stigmatized in the worst way. And there will be nothing this DOOMSDAY CULT will be able to do about it.
AMEN!!!
Our Lord and Saviour is exposing them as he promised...Come Lord Jesus...they have drag Jehovah's name through the mud...who will go to clear his Glorious name??? Eric thanks for all you do in restoring our Creator's Name!!!! tears is just streaming down my face by the destruction of innocent lives destroyed by this Organization!!!!
It looks like the Watchtower Society is about to fall any time now. Their dirty secrets should be brought to the light of truth, even if it embarrasses their so-called "God Jehovah", for those dirty secrets are what embarrass and dishonor the true God of the Holy Bible.
Indeed. The Watchtower Society's Governing Body deserves all the reproach not only for their cruel shunning policy but also for covering up cases of child sexual abuse (CSA). They should also be prosecuted for ordering their elders to destroy documented evidence of reports of sexual abuse against children in their congregations over the years.
A while ago...I finished watching the movie "Jesus of Nazareth" . The Pharissees in this movie reminds me of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The GB match the description of the evil slave.
I always enjoy your videos eric. but this was a particularly powerful presentation. TY for all the hours and hard work of preparing this clear and logical presentation.
Thank you, Sheryl. Go good to hear from you.
Masterful as always. Cant wait for the next video
Thank you Eric. It appears that the Society is collapsing under its own weight. I spoke w/ my 83 yo mother a few days ago (having not spoken with her for about 5 months) and she as much as hung up on me because she had to prepare/study for her meeting that night. Clinging to it with everything she has left.
@butziporsche8646 -that is well said --"clinging to it with everything she has left."
Well done br Eric. Clear and informative. Very faith strengthening and enthusing to spiritual growth.
In the Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures is a frequent term, 'strength to strength' where as the Greek scriptures it is 'faith to faith'. Same meaning. Demonstrate faith and that faith grows stronger. I see this in you sense you started your podcast in the beginning. It is also evident in the comments returning back. Your words are strengthening the faith of the crushed and disappointed ones, giving us a truly stronger and living faith.
This was originally the purpose of the WTBTS, to lovingly cultivate and grow mature followers of our Lord.
Thank you br. Eric for stepping up and filling that vacuum. A life well lived.
Beautiful video! I was disassociated then a few years later disfellowshiped, years ago. I since then got reinstated but have faded away. The mental pressure was terrible I still suffer from mental illness now. I have family in JW. I have become born again I’m a little nervous that if they find out I’ll be seen as an apostate reported then shunned. Lord JESUS, please help us.
Ps: I’m looking forward to your next video!
If you love your family more than Jesus you are not worthy of the good news... you cannot stay on the fence you will have to choose eventually...
@@flostep9887 I know this. I was just voicing my dismay and sadness when that time comes. It’s sad to lose your only close family members. God always comes first.
@@WampanoagNative
May Jehovah put into your mouth the right words when and if you have to talk with any elders. May Jehovah protect you from them.
I am a somewhat now faded JW baptized 30 yrs ago. In general however in those yrs my friends and associates were mostly "worldly" non-jw. Of course the congregation is also a social network but the "love" of the bros/sis is , in general, quite superficial, unless you do develop close relationships as I did. But i was not emotionally dependent on "the congregation" at all -at any time - so fading out for me was easy. My siblings however are still heavy duty JWs and, except for one of my sisters who doesnt speak to me for no other reason that i dont go to meetings ( therefore a bad associate) the rest of us get on well though if i was actually DFed, that would change. If i ever were to be DFed it would not concern me too much in regards to my siblings because it would show the superficiality and conditionality of their "christian love" and the fakery of it all. The intense irony of my sister is that she spends much of her time "teaching" the bible to others ( via studies and witnessing) about the virtues of being christian ,yet refuses to spend any meaningful time in helping look after the needs of our father ( also a JW baptised at 80 to appease the family) who resides in a nursing home in the SAME suburb as her and my siblings. JWs are fully conditioned and convinced to NEVER question ( CANNOT question) the GB under ANY circumstance. Of course the penalty in doing so almost ALWAYS leads to disfellowshipping/ shunning so its almost the perfect mechanism of control.
If the GB came out and did a complete about face on some doctrine under the guise of "new light", the
rank and file would accept it regardless. The definition of "New light" is whatever the GB says it is. Yet the founder of the JWs , Charles Russel said that "new light" ( new understanding) never replaces " old light"( old understanding) but only
builds on it. The trouble is that a lot of the "old understanding" has been fully discarded( eg pre 1950, the JWs viewed excommunication ( aka disfellowshipping) as a tool of the devil practiced by false religion ( namely the catholics) and was unsupported by scripture yet now they embrace it
as a key part of their "christian love" fruitage. The "judicial" system as practiced by the JWs is very much pharisaical but the majority are conditioned not to see it like that and believe its "christian" because the GB wholly defines for them what is "christian". If the GB does not approve of some view, automatically this becomes the view of the majority and to question that ALWAYS leads to consequences. Ive observed this in my 30+ yrs as a JW but also as one not wanting to "progress" or desiring to "reach out" for any position of "authority"- mind you, its never called "authority" but as an elder or MS you are supposedly just a "lowly servant" to the brothers looking after their spiritual needs with Jesus as your master. The reality however is otherwise.
_"the JWs viewed excommunication ( aka disfellowshipping) as a tool of the devil practiced by false religion ( namely the catholics) and was unsupported by scripture yet now they embrace it"_
WT has embraced a great many practices and beliefs it formerly condemned as unscriptural and Satanic. Tells you a lot about the organization, doesn't it? They are masters of flip flopping, self-contradiction and hypocrisy.
I doubt if they will put up with me very long.
Excellent commentary!!!
Excellent teaching video Eric. Who knows how many JW’s may be helped here.
Eric your videos are so informative 🎉 Thank You
This happened to me yesterday. A family member of mine died and I wanted to reach out to my aunts who I haven’t seen or spoke to in 15 yrs. (They are elders wives and pioneers) ( I am still a witness not df) I still go. My aunt wouldn’t talk to me unless I proved myself, she wanted to know the name of my elders my congregation if we were still on zoom it was like Nazi Germany she was trying to see if I was real and if I was who I said I was so she wanted to call my CO as well. She knows very well who I am so I gave her my elders information and everything and it still wasn’t good enough I finally told her she can stick it where the sun doesn’t shine and you know what her response was “See I knew you weren’t a true Christian.” So she basically baited me pushed me and pushed me treated me like crap and then when I reacted to her she sat back and said see.
That’s what people in this organization do they treat other people like absolute crap and then when they react to it and stand up for themselves they cry persecution and say oh see I knew you weren’t Christian no that’s narcissistic gaslighting. Disgraceful.
Because of the shunning and treating family the way they do their efforts in the ministry are absolutely futile and they can’t see it.
Yes, they "bait" their victim and then revel in any "push-back" from their victim. It has happened to me, too.
Great job for standing up to them they have a problem not you you don't follow man's teaching you follow God's it took a lot of nerve to do what you did to stand up to them all jehovas witnesses are terrified to stand up to thier leaders because they follow their teachings not Jehovas raise your head up high and look forward not what's behind you for what's behind you is not from God
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I review what has happened to me, and I listen to other people's stories, too.
It's not that they can't see it. They don't want to see it.
A very excellent video dear brother Eric
Very Well Presented , Bro. Eric . . . 👏😌
And very Timely !! 😉👌
From outwards appearance we can't judge whether he is a good christian bcos we don't read his heart except Jehovah God.Good works do not cover only preaching works but many others like exercising generousity,kindness filiality to parents,purity of hearts ,honesty n fairness
To me shunning is so childless like grade school behaviors
I think you meant "childish". What it is is hateful and from the evil one. Matthew 5:32-37
Speaking of childish, bullying is also childish as well as unkind, which is what shunning is, too
I was shunned one month ago and I did nothing unscriptural. My feiends in the congregation who own a hot dog stand told me "They said that we can't talk to you." The wife said, "I can only smile at you" 🤔🤫🤐..........But I thought that they had "free will" 🤷🏾♀️.......I am looking for an attorney. They need to be stopped ✋🏿 ✋🏿 ✋🏿
Nope, we were never given free will within the Watchtower Organization. “ Answer in you own words according to the things written for you in the paragraph” and “No independent thinking brothers and sisters.”… Do you remember those words? 😂
Great Job Eric God Bless You
The biggest problem jw have ,you can show them something in the Bible ,that CLEARLY contradict there beliefs ,and they will really believe in there heart that you are trying to trick them,the second big problem they have ,they will believe the word of men ,in the wt mag as truth thats FULL of speculations ,before they believe the word of God ,So Sad!!,Isaiah 48:17-18 ,Genesis 40:8 ,Jeremiah 17:5
Bravo! Excellent video Eric! I see John 13:34,35 in a new light. Who did Jesus shun? Looking forward to your next video!
Well explained 😊
Thank you 🙂
Dear Shunners:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” -Abraham Lincoln
The Leaders have the Rank and File vulnerable while they treat ex members that way...which results in these horrible actions. The whole while the Leaders are living in their well fortified Compounds!
You’re Amazing Eric!!! Thank you for speaking up!! 🔥🔥🔥 Doug gave a public marking talk about me in 2019, because I “put fitness ahead of Jehovah” ??!??!
So are you! Been watching your TikTok. Well done! Doug?! Don't get me started... 😞 For them, Jehovah is the Organization and the Organization is Jehovah. So sad.
Very very good
"Unbiblical" shunning practices? Is there anyone who dare says, "Un-Christlike" shunning practices? Why is almost everyone of ALL "Christian" religious groups giving "The Bible" credence and a more prominent position than the one God commanded us to listen to, His Son. (Luke 9:35)
Personally, I do not care what "a book" says about a matter, I care about what "Christ" says (and taught his Apostles).
Is not Christ Jesus "The Word of God?" How in the world did a book usurp that holy position?
So there are two "Words of God?"
No!
Just as there is one God, there is only one Word of God, Jesus Christ.
Yet, many time and time again show a lack of faith in him by referring to a "book" and what "it:" says.
How about what Christ says?
He is not dead you know. He ascended but is still with us. (Matt 28:19-20)
God sent is His Son. Men sent a book.
Obey God's command to "Listen to His Son."
If He wanted us to listen to a book, He would have said so.
Inspite of what has been written here, people are hard-headed and will still place a book above the one who "is" The Word of God.
It is Christ who condemns shunning, not a book.
I have a question with all due respect ,what BOOK are you talking about? 🤔 ,i hope you are talking about watch tower publications ,or wt (books and mags). also you pointed to Luke 9:35 what book did you get that verse from .🤔 John 8:31-32
Hello Brother Eric,
Thanks for the video.
Please would you put part 1 of 2 or something like that.
So it's easier to work out the order of this new video series you've put together.
Thanks again. 🙂
@billyroland2758 - That is a very good point Billy.
I just understand why Anthony Morris is not part of the GB. He is the goat for changing a policy. He was who insist that the policy would never change. So, now will look like he was in his own view, not the GB. A simple way, a normal political way, to escape for a bad decision.
Ezekiel 45:9- against shunning etc
Interesting.
If I am deprived of communication, on the contrary, I will only be glad, because the values are different.
Sorry for my "English"
Thank you for sharing your feelings
JWs isolate themselves . Disfellowshipping was used once when a Christian man was the talk of the town about a grave sin and later it was used by prideful men to throw people out of the congregation. 3 John 1:9,10 This practice was used sparingly. I belong to Paul I belong to Apollo’s I belong to the GB. People with mental illness can’t handle more rejection. Years ago I heard about a man that got DFd in Australia, he lost his wife, kids and job. He would break into the elders house and poison the milk. The elders family got very sick. At the time I wondered why these things didn’t happen more often. When you lose everything........ Maybe Jehovah has released the winds against the JWs. The elders have never had fear of their actions..... as an elder told me.... oh they thought the pain this person was feeling was amusing I told them about-they thought it was funny.... until I told them and they have a gun. Not fun anymore... they thought for a minute and said oh people like that just end up using it on themselves. No fear-Jehovah protects them.
Great video brother Eric,
I think,
Watchtower should be broken up all assets sold.
And the money distributed to all members.
Especially the people with no decent pension.
Because they wasted their early years working for free for Watchtower.
This is what they wanted to do. No one forced them. Why don't you ask them. They have no regrets. They will be taken care of by the Watchtower and bros and sisters. The Watchtower will NEVER go down. They have Jehovah's backing.
@@helenjacox9817
You are right they were not forced.
They were manipulated.
By Watchtower leaders the "governing body"
Much like a person who is tricked by a con man into parting with money.
Those rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses were conned.
So you could say of a person who is conned out of their life savings.
This is what rhey wanted to do.
Finally, the Watchtower does not have Jehovah’s backing.
He does not support evil religious leaders who deliberately lie.
A clear example of a Watchtower lie.
Is the 1914 doctrine.
There are many more Watchtower lies i could mention.
@@helenjacox9817
Women and non-elders weren't allowed to see tge Shepherding book. It has secret teachings. The women and non-elders were not fully informed. The religion called Jehovah's Witnesses is part of Babylon the Great.
The shunning contributed to my ex-husband’s suicide. Not the entire reason, but part of it. No surprise the impact of shunning and destroying families is creating havoc and violence.
@jclark-sealy9068 -- I am so sorry to hear that. That is so tragic.
I enjoyed meetings more When i was shunned..😂
That shocked me!!! 😮 Really...
I am a very artistic person. Im not average. I am not normal. So. I never fit in anyway...
Why was it when isolated from all, only then....able to see. Interesting isnt it.
You might want to try our meetings: beroeans.net/events/
My dearest friend a devout JW would not discuss anything happening against wt Germany etc told me remember it's expected we are in the last days of the last days don't think about it.any how thankyou for your recent video on scriptural doctrine of shunning.
Watching Tony Morris at 15:08 and smiling to myself. Somewhere right now good ol' Tony is feeling sting of being on the receiving end of the so-called congregational discipline. I'm sure he knows to never speak freely now though, lest he get the full "apostate" treatment.
Maybe the subliminal messages in the watchtower booklets and memorial invitation are putting out there.
Merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo très intéressante. Dommage que cela n est pas en français car ils y a des personnes qui ont du mal à lire mais merci
"Shunning" is pretty harsh, is the good word? I'm not certain, we are always, dear brother, expecting your coming back. Love never ends...
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Hello Eric, can u please share video on celebrating birthday and Christmas. Is it wrong or pagan to celebrate birthday and Christmas?
they do not shun thieves for sure :)
Nor do they seem to shun pedophiles in their congregations, which they ought to and turn them in to police and other law enforcement authorities.
When I was baptized Christian I was asked by JW whoever baptized you know the Bible? What should I have said?
Did the person who baptized you believe in Jesus Christ?
Correction:....spiritually.
I heard JW saying not know when Armaggedon coming. Also stop preaching time for JW members. And active JW not to be judgmental to Ex JW or DF cause might be in new world order. Only God can judge not man. Big changes for JW now.Thank you for your hard work and vids!
Hi brother, when will this video be uploaded in the Spanish channel?….
I've been ill, so I'm weeks behind.
@@BeroeanPickets hope you feel better soon, take care of yourself first.
Why are you JW's that are commenting on an 'apostate' channel in the first place? Your GB says you're not supposed to do that. So supposedly he is wrong and you are wrong but it's okay for you to be wrong (and disobedient) and also have the nerve to lecture somebody else? 👌🏽😂
They are on these channels because they are COUNTING TIME!!!👌Gal 6:4
@@zip6404 😂
@@1Rhettsgirl13 👍
I have commented on this on a different video and was told by a Witness that she is her own person and will do as she sees fit! 😊. Apparently she finds it perfectly acceptable to view and comment on 'apostate' videos. I wonder what the elders in her congregation would have to say about her associating with 'apostates'?
@Dutchess 1st according to the elders manual, she can get disciplined for that. If she's her own person, I'd love to see her boldly proclaim that to the elders in her congregation. She won't, though, in a million years.
Keep up with the good job Eric but I wanna ask you something you know that Jehovah isn't the real name of god
🙄..!!??!!.....
Why do Jehovah's Witnesses take SHUNNING so hard?
Hello, I hope I can help answer your question. For many, their whole family is a JW. Imagine being a very young person, and being kicked out of the only home you ever knew. Getting no help from any friends or family. They refuse to help or talk to you. This scenario happens repeatedly. Now, if a person is not young, but older, again, imagine you're children no longer speaking to you, maybe you have grandchildren and you're no longer allowed to see them or speak to them. Maybe you had friends for decades, and they stop association with you. These are only a couple of scenarios. All of which can be mentally and emotionally debilitating. It is a form of abuse. Many commit suicide. Many have to go to a therapist to deal with the extreme depression they now have.
You mentioned you wouldn't have an issue with someone no longer talking to you, and that's great for you. But please don't project how you would react, to how others should react. We all have our own way of coping and dealing with trauma. And shunning is certainly abusive and traumatic. Hope this information helps.
@@soakedinoregonm.7204 Thank you
A year and a half ago I walked away. Too much two faced behaviour from fellow witnesses and the g.b. Updating of the online nwt. Causing division by forbidding those not jabbed from attending the hall, or pioneer school or elder school. No elder has contacted me since I walked away, not once. I did receive a telephone message from an elder's wife about the Memorial saying that their Memorial was at the assembly hall, but I could go to a different memorial at a nearby hotel. Kind of like a slap in the face. I must say I do not miss anything about being jw. Granted I am on my own and the only one in my family who was jw, so it has been sonewhat easier for me than for others.
@@dutchess1st62 understood thanks
I'm a Christian & was told Iby JW I'm following false religion what?
John 4:23 says that we should not follow religion, but only the Christ
Jesus would never shun anyone. He would love them, say hello, check in on them in hopes of reaching them, but would certainly not show outward distain towards someone like the Witnesses do. You don’t associate with them but certainly love them in hopes of reaching them someday. My opinion.
What did Jesus call Judas Iscariot. Traitor, slanderer, thief.He was not going to put up with it .when it was time to celebrate the wine and the bread, Jesus said: Not All of You Are Clean. Jesus dismissed Judas. He lost heavenly life permanently. He is dead and will Never be resurrected. Did Jesus feel bad? Absolutely not. Elders just don't disfellowship you.they try very hard to help you. They will spend hours with you. But the person does not want to be a JW anymore. So now you are unclean in Jehovah's and Jesus eyes. The decision comes down from heaven and Gods holy spirit let's them know what must be done
Just think about it.
7 month old human being😢
I am Josephine demirbas Joseph's mum I am Jehovah's witness stop apostating we die for Jehovah stop turning every thing to your reasons your opinion we know we are hated
I too am willing to die for Jehovah. I'm willing to die for his Son and my Lord, Jesus. But the Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is not Jehovah.
The gb needs to read the scripture at jer 19: 5 about their shunning policy and keep in mind Matt 7:12
it is biblical . refer to 1 Corinthians 5:11-13
@osasgideon8431 - What is biblical is removing a wicked man from among the congregation that gathers to worship together. That is not shunning? If I work for a company and they remove me by firing me, that is not shunning? The company doesn't require all the employees to have nothing to do with me, not even to say hello to me if they pass me on the street.
You see how you can be so easily played by the Organization? They start by defining shunning, get you to accept their definition, then tell you that 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 supports their definition and application of the word, when it fact, it does nothing of the sort.
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JW's have been proven to be God's people. Apostates will take full responsibility for their hatred and violence towards God's people.
Hi Jacob, maybe you want to prove all how or what are that's proved. Maybe you can put some examples, so we can see how. Because you will be very happy to prove the point for yourself and for everybody else. Right? But if you don't have at least 25 years, of least, please avoid going forward. But you are free to try anyway. Remember God gives us free will, so you are completely free to do what you want.😇✌
Jw''s have proven to be both unscriptural and unloving!..Take that two witness rule!😴
Exposing the false teachings that the governing body teaches is not hatred
It’s a Cult. Get out.
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It is unfortunate that they nullify Christ sacrifice. Thank you Eric! ❤❤