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@@tokyotourist no it’s not she thought she had control over everyone bullied them to vote her way as soon as she was on the chopping block bam race card .
Survivor players are in a GAME to win one million dollars. Some act as heroes, and others as villians. Shan played HER game, and those actions didn't violate Survivor rules. Many viewed Shan as entertaining. Imo, judging a person's "real" personality BEFORE the winner is selected often isn't an accurate assessment. Also, if every player acted nice or sweet, it wouldn't be Survivor.
How she pulled off to get JDs advantage and activating the 3way idol was impressive. I hope she stuck with the Heathers vote and kept Naseer at final 10.
Shan was one of the greatest players to grace this game. Her downfall was listening to people like Ricard to get rid of Naseer and also listening to Deshawn. She did so amazing
@anidiotmakesthings I agree, but I'd say the same thing about Colton Cumbie, the entire survivor community likes to claim him as the worst villain of all time, and in reality he was more entertaining imo than shan.
That moment when she talked her parents’ divorce made me cry! I was six when my parents got divorced and my Dad was the reason for all of it and never mentioned it and I didn’t choose who to stay with until I turned 13. So I saw Shan’s family pain.
it was actually a very good season, i hated it at first with all the new changes, but i feel like i got to know all the cast members and it was a spectacular season
Haven’t received a vote in the premerge at all and dominated the beginning of the merge. Her downfalls was not taking out Ricard early & not voting out Heather in the Final 10.
The best thing I can say about her is if somehow her and Ricard both made it to the end, she was never anyone's sidekick. As a fan who use to have a bias towards woman, she would have been a much more satisfying winner than the last few woman that have
i don't. shan played terribly. and erika deserved to win the game. i'm not even just saying that as a canadian. shan treated people like crap. it's like watching chrissy during the merge in 35. when her and ryan had power, they took advantage of everyone. and funny enough i really like chrissy as a player
what really upsets me about shan, is that she was pushing for the black players to get to the end, but she voted out jd. and then she has the nerve to call deshawn a snake for doing the exact same thing. i've said it once and i'll said it again, shan is a hypocrite
Her tribe kept going back to tribal and there wasn't much she could've done. JD broke her trust and she still saved him twice before ultimately booting him. JD himself said he was going to go after Shan the moment he had the chance to in his exit interviews. She was very correct in this move. Are you going to blame Liana as well for getting rid of a fellow black man too? literally at the first tribal? LMFAOO. Deshawn was a snake because that convo about "doing it for the culture" happened hours before tribal that night and then right after Shan spent the entire time with the medics for a health issue. Deshawn being the absolute SNAKE and COWARD he is took this time preying on her downfall. She felt so betrayed because he really reassured her that they were good moments before her vote out. She deserves to be bitter.
@@tj.8924 what deshawn did was strategy, but shan wants to make it out to be that deshawn was a traitor to his race. when she's done the exact same thing. what i'm saying is that she can't say that kind of crap without taking some fault of her own
@@tj.8924 i'm not saying what shan did wasn't strategy. and don't you dare say that i'm a sexist because that is a low blow. what i'm referring to is that shan voted out jd who is black too, but when deshawn does it to her, she has the nerve to call him a snake for it.
@@lafingscarecrow reading comprehension is very lacking huh. please refer to my first reply or you can do your own research on the countless exit interviews where JD said he was going to go after Shan if he had the chance to. and then the second paragraph where i give you the reason why shan felt so betrayed. hint: its because she was with the medics all day after that man child told her every thing was great and the black alliance was going to the end. danny even confirmed shan's retelling of what happened was true! from the mouth of dehsawn's bestie.
@@tommymcphee3777 exactly the second she listened to ricard her game went to shit. she should’ve controlled more and if I’ve learned anything from her it’s to keep your foot on the gas and don’t care what anyone else says because the second u give them what they want they’ll just get rid of u
i dont understand this take because all she did post-merge was follow orders of men with bruised egos who cant fathom women being in charge. maybe if she stuck to her guns and ignored deshawn and ricard's dumb ass plans, she'd perhaps would have won
Really a complex character so loved her on the show. One of the biggest female villians on modern survivor. Reminds me of Angelina but Shan is way more manipulative and toxic.
@@jakeraught4939 yup, she has Italian ancestry but just like most mixed-race black people, they only acknowledge their black side and ignores their other side.
I never understood why people liked her.. I hated how fake she was on the show, ready to backstab anyone but then getting extremely mad when someone tried to do the same thing she was gonna do. And especially post Survivor she seems like such a horrible person
This season was a disaster once Shan left. Telling Ricard was the biggest mistake. I can't believe he did that to her and let the other side Erika and Xander win. So bad. I really wish it was Shan, Liana, Deshawn and Danny final 4. That would have been beautiful. Sucked it ended the other way
Seriously hated Shan, and I don’t think I’m alone. Toxic personality, poor decision making, responsible for premature departure of great characters, false sense of entitlement, and that horrible stank face on the jury bench
As a black survivor fan I thought she was one of the worst players of all time! The nerve of her to question deshawn as a black player was a personal attack. Especially when she and liana were going to vote him out first and it was ricard not deshawn that got her out! So it was okay for her and liana to have options other than their black alliance but not Danny and deshawn?? Now their intentions as black men are questioned?? Her and liana chose ricard over them! 😒
@@shesarrived7690 that’s what I didn’t understand, why is it ok when it’s her doing something, but when it’s against her she deems it immoral? Made no sense, major hypocrisy on her part
@@tj.8924 this type of attitude isn’t actually moving things forward like you think you’re doing. Shan is a person first. If we drop race from the conversation just a bit, we may find racial issues subside. People can hate Shan. It’s not about her skin
How did she screw over Liana's game? Tiffany confirmed that Shan leaking Liana's advantage was not her fault. At the summit, Liana reassured Shan that the Yase girls are in a tight alliance so because of that, Shan assumed they knew. Liana was 100% at fault for this miscommunication. Also, Liana ruined Shan's game point blank period. Danny personally told Shan that Ricard has to go and she agreed but Liana's dumb ass went up to her after saying dont believe the guys, they are plotting against YOU. Hence why Shan thought them trying to get rid of Ricard was a shot at her.
@@tj.8924 Oh yeah, according to tiffany's exit press, Shan was supposed to get the advantage, not Liana. Plus, Liana could've easily come up with a different power to her advantage but instead, she told Tiffany what it really was, and that gave the Yase 3 ammo to disarm Liana's advantage.
Shan was a huge bully!! Her and ricard were nasty to everyone and to each other. She came across as emotionally manipulative and peak toxic. She seriously did not understand how to speak to people with respect. Showed zero listening skills. Her comments towards deshawn were so hurtful and delusional when she literally had a melt down every single episode she was in the game and after she was voted out… when she couldn’t control him she literally bullied him and tore him down… my man and I were contemplating quitting watching this season because of her character… I know it’s a game but man I can’t believe she’s a pastor 🙄
@@tj.8924 Shan showed every single episode that she had zero emotional intelligence and was a bully. She treated almost everyone on that beach like crap including Ricard her #1, and Danny at the ponderosa. The problem is that everything she said to deshawn could be said about her. It’s comes across as projection when she was so emotional every single episode and benefited the most from the all black alliance. Regardless of what she felt she can still speak to another human being with common decency and respect, but it was impossible with her. She crossed the line so many times this season.
I don’t know if this is the minority opinion or not, but I did not like Shan. She was very controlling and manipulative, but not in the good way. She blew up if she didn’t get her own way and the way she spoke to people irritated me a bit. I found her to be hypocritical at times. I think her premerge was fine, but once the merge happened my likeness for her stated going down.
I've never seen so many openly racist and sexist people. I knew when I saw the jury that Xander didn't have a chance. He didn't get a single vote, even though he should have won in a landslide. Australian Survivor is way better than the American version. People can see for themselves, it’s now available on Paramount Plus. The contestants are way more likable and they actually have to fight and struggle. Plus the challenges are so inventive and refreshing. It feels like the American one just uses the same ones over and over again.
and Aus Survivor is dog shit. People give this season so much flack for having outrageous twists than idk how they can watch that abomination. Never seen a show fuck over their contestants like Aus Survivor does
Xander lost due to his poor jury and perception management and lack of agency and awareness. He will say so himself, check his tell all with the Survivor Specialists. He lost fair and square because he played a lackluster game and Erika played better.
After what she did to JD, Shan is officially my most hated player in Survivor of all time. Hopefully they never bring her back on the show again and confine her to being in the kitchen.
Shan's premerge is just chef's kiss.
she killed it
her and ricard’s storyline was amazing!!!
They had a very rocky aliance but still stayed together till final 8 it was amazing.
Shan was the main character and was such a compelling player. Her control over UA is something I will remember forever.
Right she dominated that tribe they all got played 😂
They were Idiots
She was a race card player .
When it got tough that’s all she had
@@W3TFART That’s a very ignorant and short sided take
@@tokyotourist no it’s not she thought she had control over everyone bullied them to vote her way as soon as she was on the chopping block bam race card .
She was so entertaining. Definitely a lock for the next returnee season
@anidiotmakesthingsshut up .
That villain background music was such a fun recurring thing. I get a good chuckle out of it everytime I hear it in an episode.
Survivor players are in a GAME to win one million dollars. Some act as heroes, and others as villians. Shan played HER game, and those actions didn't violate Survivor rules. Many viewed Shan as entertaining. Imo, judging a person's "real" personality BEFORE the winner is selected often isn't an accurate assessment. Also, if every player acted nice or sweet, it wouldn't be Survivor.
3:25 My favorite confessional of the season
“You should’ve shouted out TRIBAL because that’s where we ended up!” 💀
How she pulled off to get JDs advantage and activating the 3way idol was impressive. I hope she stuck with the Heathers vote and kept Naseer at final 10.
LMFAO “tribal!”
That was the funniest thing of this whole season
I LAUGHED SO HARD
Shan was one of the greatest players to grace this game. Her downfall was listening to people like Ricard to get rid of Naseer and also listening to Deshawn. She did so amazing
Truly an iconic villian
Defo all I was thinking watching her …. Perfect pick for a next hero’s Vs villains season …. Her and Ricard did an ABSOLUTE clean sweep of their tribe
@anidiotmakesthings I agree, but I'd say the same thing about Colton Cumbie, the entire survivor community likes to claim him as the worst villain of all time, and in reality he was more entertaining imo than shan.
Shan singlehandedly renewed my love for Survivor
That moment when she talked her parents’ divorce made me cry! I was six when my parents got divorced and my Dad was the reason for all of it and never mentioned it and I didn’t choose who to stay with until I turned 13. So I saw Shan’s family pain.
My fav villain since Russell
I never understood the amount of hate she got. She was so damn entertaining as a villain and is the kind of characters we need to lit every season.
S41’s best
it was actually a very good season, i hated it at first with all the new changes, but i feel like i got to know all the cast members and it was a spectacular season
Haven’t received a vote in the premerge at all and dominated the beginning of the merge. Her downfalls was not taking out Ricard early & not voting out Heather in the Final 10.
I wanted to try the papaya 😂
Love her!
Goddess. Nothing else to say.
The best thing I can say about her is if somehow her and Ricard both made it to the end, she was never anyone's sidekick. As a fan who use to have a bias towards woman, she would have been a much more satisfying winner than the last few woman that have
A bias towards female players?
The first evil pastor I’ve ever seen. Glad she showed her true colors to those she preaches to
You should do Xander and Nasser!
I wish they voted out Erica here over Shan
i don't. shan played terribly. and erika deserved to win the game. i'm not even just saying that as a canadian. shan treated people like crap. it's like watching chrissy during the merge in 35. when her and ryan had power, they took advantage of everyone. and funny enough i really like chrissy as a player
what really upsets me about shan, is that she was pushing for the black players to get to the end, but she voted out jd. and then she has the nerve to call deshawn a snake for doing the exact same thing. i've said it once and i'll said it again, shan is a hypocrite
Her tribe kept going back to tribal and there wasn't much she could've done. JD broke her trust and she still saved him twice before ultimately booting him. JD himself said he was going to go after Shan the moment he had the chance to in his exit interviews. She was very correct in this move. Are you going to blame Liana as well for getting rid of a fellow black man too? literally at the first tribal? LMFAOO.
Deshawn was a snake because that convo about "doing it for the culture" happened hours before tribal that night and then right after Shan spent the entire time with the medics for a health issue. Deshawn being the absolute SNAKE and COWARD he is took this time preying on her downfall. She felt so betrayed because he really reassured her that they were good moments before her vote out. She deserves to be bitter.
@@tj.8924 what deshawn did was strategy, but shan wants to make it out to be that deshawn was a traitor to his race. when she's done the exact same thing. what i'm saying is that she can't say that kind of crap without taking some fault of her own
@@lafingscarecrow oh so when the man does it its called strategy? i see.
@@tj.8924 i'm not saying what shan did wasn't strategy. and don't you dare say that i'm a sexist because that is a low blow. what i'm referring to is that shan voted out jd who is black too, but when deshawn does it to her, she has the nerve to call him a snake for it.
@@lafingscarecrow reading comprehension is very lacking huh. please refer to my first reply or you can do your own research on the countless exit interviews where JD said he was going to go after Shan if he had the chance to. and then the second paragraph where i give you the reason why shan felt so betrayed. hint: its because she was with the medics all day after that man child told her every thing was great and the black alliance was going to the end. danny even confirmed shan's retelling of what happened was true! from the mouth of dehsawn's bestie.
I liked shan but her downfall was playing a game where only her ideas mattered and o ky her plans could be executed
Wrong. The second she started listening to others ideas is when she got in trouble
@@tommymcphee3777 exactly the second she listened to ricard her game went to shit. she should’ve controlled more and if I’ve learned anything from her it’s to keep your foot on the gas and don’t care what anyone else says because the second u give them what they want they’ll just get rid of u
i dont understand this take because all she did post-merge was follow orders of men with bruised egos who cant fathom women being in charge. maybe if she stuck to her guns and ignored deshawn and ricard's dumb ass plans, she'd perhaps would have won
@@tj.8924 preach
Really a complex character so loved her on the show. One of the biggest female villians on modern survivor. Reminds me of Angelina but Shan is way more manipulative and toxic.
I LOVE HER
She burned Deshawn pretty good!
nobody could make me hate shan. GREATEST CHARACTER OF THE NEW ERA. BEST TO NEVER WIN. SCREWED BY 26 days as a social player.
But she aint a good player. She voted off players who were loyal to her - and kept Ricard, a very strategic player. 🤷🏽🤷🏽
She did herself in.
She's a strong, black, African American woman of color 🙌🙌 #blackgirlmagic
She’s a strong ITALIAN woman!
@@jakeraught4939 yup, she has Italian ancestry but just like most mixed-race black people, they only acknowledge their black side and ignores their other side.
I never understood why people liked her.. I hated how fake she was on the show, ready to backstab anyone but then getting extremely mad when someone tried to do the same thing she was gonna do.
And especially post Survivor she seems like such a horrible person
I dindt See her Mad🤷🏽♂️
@@rosinelankos8010 you must be blind🤷🏽♂️
This season was a disaster once Shan left. Telling Ricard was the biggest mistake. I can't believe he did that to her and let the other side Erika and Xander win. So bad. I really wish it was Shan, Liana, Deshawn and Danny final 4. That would have been beautiful. Sucked it ended the other way
Seriously hated Shan, and I don’t think I’m alone. Toxic personality, poor decision making, responsible for premature departure of great characters, false sense of entitlement, and that horrible stank face on the jury bench
As a black survivor fan I thought she was one of the worst players of all time! The nerve of her to question deshawn as a black player was a personal attack. Especially when she and liana were going to vote him out first and it was ricard not deshawn that got her out! So it was okay for her and liana to have options other than their black alliance but not Danny and deshawn?? Now their intentions as black men are questioned?? Her and liana chose ricard over them! 😒
@@shesarrived7690 that’s what I didn’t understand, why is it ok when it’s her doing something, but when it’s against her she deems it immoral? Made no sense, major hypocrisy on her part
Just say you hate black women
@@tj.8924 loved liana, hated Shan
@@tj.8924 this type of attitude isn’t actually moving things forward like you think you’re doing. Shan is a person first. If we drop race from the conversation just a bit, we may find racial issues subside. People can hate Shan. It’s not about her skin
do ricard!
Loved her but she’s screwed over Liana’s game too many times. 😭
How did she screw over Liana's game? Tiffany confirmed that Shan leaking Liana's advantage was not her fault. At the summit, Liana reassured Shan that the Yase girls are in a tight alliance so because of that, Shan assumed they knew. Liana was 100% at fault for this miscommunication. Also, Liana ruined Shan's game point blank period. Danny personally told Shan that Ricard has to go and she agreed but Liana's dumb ass went up to her after saying dont believe the guys, they are plotting against YOU. Hence why Shan thought them trying to get rid of Ricard was a shot at her.
@@tj.8924 Oh yeah, according to tiffany's exit press, Shan was supposed to get the advantage, not Liana. Plus, Liana could've easily come up with a different power to her advantage but instead, she told Tiffany what it really was, and that gave the Yase 3 ammo to disarm Liana's advantage.
Anyone think Voting Shan for future Survivor Second Chance, All Stars, or 50?
I like her but she seems unstable and confused at times.
Shan was a huge bully!! Her and ricard were nasty to everyone and to each other. She came across as emotionally manipulative and peak toxic. She seriously did not understand how to speak to people with respect. Showed zero listening skills. Her comments towards deshawn were so hurtful and delusional when she literally had a melt down every single episode she was in the game and after she was voted out… when she couldn’t control him she literally bullied him and tore him down… my man and I were contemplating quitting watching this season because of her character… I know it’s a game but man I can’t believe she’s a pastor 🙄
She said deshawn was "throwing tantrums" when really he refused to get sucked into her pace and get bossed around.
@@boogie1434 exactly! She was gaslighting him
What does her profession have to do with the game weirdo
@@boogie1434 the entire cast literally called that man a sensitive, whiny ass baby in their exit interviews. shan was right!
@@tj.8924 Shan showed every single episode that she had zero emotional intelligence and was a bully. She treated almost everyone on that beach like crap including Ricard her #1, and Danny at the ponderosa. The problem is that everything she said to deshawn could be said about her. It’s comes across as projection when she was so emotional every single episode and benefited the most from the all black alliance. Regardless of what she felt she can still speak to another human being with common decency and respect, but it was impossible with her. She crossed the line so many times this season.
The fact that people loved her blows my mind.
she was an interesting character who brought the mess
Why? I only know her from this video and she seems like a good player
I don’t know if this is the minority opinion or not, but I did not like Shan. She was very controlling and manipulative, but not in the good way. She blew up if she didn’t get her own way and the way she spoke to people irritated me a bit. I found her to be hypocritical at times. I think her premerge was fine, but once the merge happened my likeness for her stated going down.
Yas same!
liana next pls
Played great pre merge terrible merge in my opinion
i couldn’t stand her. i didn’t realize it was an unpopular opinion till i looked at this comment section
She didn’t play like a pastor
She didn't say she would.
@@survivorfandan_sa9 she also cussed at ponderosa which is a very not pastor thing to do
@@sawyermcelhaney1234 is she a pastor of ponderosa?
Who caressssss omg
@@Nyckidd ikr😭like let the girl play
I've never seen so many openly racist and sexist people. I knew when I saw the jury that Xander didn't have a chance. He didn't get a single vote, even though he should have won in a landslide.
Australian Survivor is way better than the American version. People can see for themselves, it’s now available on Paramount Plus. The contestants are way more likable and they actually have to fight and struggle. Plus the challenges are so inventive and refreshing. It feels like the American one just uses the same ones over and over again.
Erika played much better game than xander. Xander was a goat who was on the outs for majority of the season.
Xander played a shit game. Get the fuck out of here, this is a video about SHAN and SHAN only.
and Aus Survivor is dog shit. People give this season so much flack for having outrageous twists than idk how they can watch that abomination. Never seen a show fuck over their contestants like Aus Survivor does
Xander had no idea what was happening he had an idol he coulda made moves with but he never did
Xander lost due to his poor jury and perception management and lack of agency and awareness. He will say so himself, check his tell all with the Survivor Specialists. He lost fair and square because he played a lackluster game and Erika played better.
After what she did to JD, Shan is officially my most hated player in Survivor of all time. Hopefully they never bring her back on the show again and confine her to being in the kitchen.
She’s not as good as she thinks she is.