I want to add a little something regarding Specter If you have the rest of the abyssal hunters and are willing to invest into them (getting their modules), Specter becomes a genuine monster, capable of facing and surviving most things to the point that you'll rarely get to see the doll, while also dealing high amounts of damage; to actually threaten her the enemies need to get to One-shot levels of damage, in which case you just switch to S2 and laugh in their face while they keep whaling at her Just adding Gladia (with module) to the same squad allows both of them to shrug off stuff like Manfred's artillery cannon as if it was nothing, and getting the whole squad together just all of them stupidly strong With that being said, i don't think her placement should change as the requirements for her ro reach peak performance are really high, and on her own her preformance is still just aight
Not to mention you can pair her with original specter for immortal shenanigans. Just have them both together and trade off the doll form/self stun to block a boss for a good amount of time. The boss will be constantly blocked by the two, especially if they have an attack that makes them stop for a long period of time (such as the Steam Knight)
bruh gavial that synergises with horse sword guy made her s and specter having broken abyssal hunter squad dosent change her placement consistency much, and fr... gavial is A+, just better blaze
@@Murmur_65 eh, gavial doesnt really fit the same use case as blaze. i use blaze for my annis and afk setups. although in all other aspect for me gavial is better. its such a shame blaze only has 1 skill! no other skills!
@@VladumereAnd that is the same logic for why I don't agree with this video's assessment of Chongyue. Chongyue and Mountain being same archetype totally means their kits are comparable in the same usage case fr! Mountain is an actual lane-holder, Chongyue is about actually killing stuff beyond a low level of defense. Mountain is supposed to block, Chongyue is supposed to kill and spend little time blocking if possible.
Always happy to see an arknights vid from you! Edit: The only placement I genuinely disagree with is W. While her archetype does hold her back a bit, her damage and crowd control is nothing to sneeze at. I think high B tier or low A tier would be a better placement for her.
C is about right. W is B tier when the map suits her kinda like ifrit. the problem with alot of later maps is they have alot of undeployable titles mainly near the enemy spawn so spawn camping with W s2 is no longer a thing. plus they have alot more angles in them, very hard to find a range spot where there is a convenient funnel with no angles where one ranged operator can cover a whole section of the map by themselves. go play an older map with W s2 and then play a modern map with her and see the vast difference. the only exception for map content would be IS since W does have good value in that mode while you are building your team out but i wouldn't say that would bring her up a whole tier overall since that is just one mode. plus she now competes with ground titles from other operators so this really leaves you with S3 for your general purpose skill and S3 is good damage when enemies are clustered but that is also map dependent. and with its year 1 sp recharge rates it requires far more thinking then modern operators where its just if the skill is ready just use it don;t worry about the recharge. And you need to understand that Tier lists are for general use content. Using ifirit as an example she is S+ tier when she works just because she does high damage + debuff all in one on both skills, but she's C tier when she doesnt have her setup i.e. 1 tile. since now its okay if you don't need the debuff, would another caster be better in that spot that can only hit one tile?
Could u explain in more detail what she does? Im new to the game and currently saving for her and Chongyue bc i rlly like them and im in love with CC characters that can block a big amount of enemies bc it helps me a lot!
In case you haven't noticed it yet, weedy is also top cc operator but no where near next to meta monsters, your logic falls off because that's like 1 category compared to everything else
i don't think you need to change her rating but for rosmontis s3, the pillar spawns aren't entirely random they prioritize tiles with enemies on them, and then prioritize closest to the blue box -- only if there are no enemies in range (or no deployable tiles with enemies on them) will the pillars drop randomly, so just a little bit of timing can prevent them from landing on a bad location. you can also retreat the pillars if they do land on a bad spot
Slight correction: You said for Skalter that her summon can be used for "double buffs or cover spots she's not at". Unfortunately, only the latter is true, the summon simply expands her range to include the 8 tiles around it. Putting it near an op already covered by Skalter doesn't provide a double buff. Kinda wish it did though!
Oh boy, I have opinions: You really did NTR dirty man. She is powercreeped by all the new "delete buttons" added to the game, but she is still very good and usable. She has three really useful skills, with S1 for lane-holding (especially in annihilation) and S3 providing True Damage for bosses with hefty defenses or bullshit evasion (Manfred, Andonain...), her prime skill is S2. Apart from the big damage she ditches, she also goes over Deployment slots, making her very good on CC or as a panic button when you have your full set up and something goes south; and gets four shields, which makes her amazing against slow-hitting bosses. I will personally put her in S due to flexibility since I use her in almost all my clears (I avoid broken operators -Yato, Texas, Mylnar, and Ling- since they simplify the game too much in my opinion), and since you said that you would take into account their state when they were released, I think you should at least bump her to A. Please :) Also, I find Gavialter a bit underwhelming on her own. Without her synergy with Mylnar, I don't think she is better than Blaze or OG Spectre, and find little reason to use her myself (Maybe because I "banned Mylnar). For me would be a B, but the fairest rating is probably an A. On the other hand, you really did justice to my man Chungus, he is cracked if you plan for his little set-up. However, the top operators right now are already cracked without the need for planning or set-up :/. I also laughed hard at "Mumu, first 6* tactician vanguard". Hope it was intentional, love to see disrespect to poor Vigil.
I’m going to pin this to see how much more people want to chime in with their thoughts since I did feel like I was underselling how broken an extra free operator that isn’t a one star is. She ignores mechanics and that will always be valuable so maybe I was too harsh!
Have to disagree on specter alter, especially if you run her with gladia module and spalters x module you have a nearly unkillable 2 block low dp cost unit that deals huge amounts of damage during skill 2 and deploys a doll with very high arts damage with a decent slow, with the bonus sp gain of the module ontop of the damage and slow buffs on the doll you get a very strong nearly unkillable unit that can cheese a lot of challenge content. Her only con imo is that you need to invest heavily into her module and are prone to use one deployment slot for gladia too. Otherwise great placements 👍
Spectral I think was the one operator where I genuinely didnt know how to rank. I felt so fraudulent talking about her since I have her but never use her since my smooth brain drops guards with Texalter and Yato making it so smooth it’s frictionless. I knew I wanted to finally build Gladia for a reason though, and this might be it
To expand on this even more, there's effectively 2 entirely different rankings for each of the AH units, depending on if you're ranking their performance alone, or ranking it with every AH in a team with their buffing modules. Like regular Skadi is a joke unit, Skadi with 30% DR, 50% more hp, 2.5% hp/second, more attack, skalter support etc. Is actually an absolute juggernaut.
I sometimes also just put skadi into the team for her passive attack buff that is active even if you dont deploy her to beef up my gladia and spalter even more haha@@zecrayz4840
Not that it matters, but Vigil was actually the first 6 star tactician vanguard, not mumu, but you’d be forgiven for forgetting Vigil is a 6 star. Hypergryph sure did…
nian main skill has been s2 since like 2021 and is currently regarded as THE tankiest defender and has seeing use in max cc risk since her realease my prob aint the position, cus yeah shes just "yet another defender" for 90% of the player base and almost no one cares for max risk and similar but u gotta make her justice by talking about what nian truly does or she does what not even hoshi can
@@YokiraOkada only when shes tanking againts something like a mudrok golem she loses def as she gets attacked (doesnt matter how strong the hit is she gets her def reduced even regardless if the hit would 1 shot her or deal 1 dmg )
I haaaaddd to stop and pause when you placed NTR in B Tier. So, skill 1 isn't necessarily crazy by itself, but there are so many spaces in the game where you can plop her behind a defender to shred some high DEF high ATK enemies in a fire and forget kinda way. That extra tile of reach makes a huge difference and she does so much consistent high damage in this form. Crazy versatile, very lazy. S Tier Skill Skill 2 is busted. Unless you're running so omega-tight super clutch tier stage where you absolutely need 13 unique ops for the strat to work, she is basically a free include. Very helpful for blind runs, and even if the stage turns out to be easy and you don't need her, she can jut help end the stage faster with the added dps. Like you mentioned, also very good for melting those high ATK low ASPD enemies thanks to the shield. Makes her really good for chipping down one of those bosses with loads of health that meander around all stage. The stun I find comes in very helpful with this skill as well. S+ Oddly enough skill 3 is the one I find myself using the least. It's just very specific in when you want to use it, because let's be real any scenario you would want this skill why not just Surtr it? However for those who do NOT have Surtr like myself for the longest time having that flexibility on a unit with 2 already excellent skills makes her such a valuable swiss army knife of a unit. Plus you really get to stick it to those annoying dodge enemies that Surtr can't help with. A Tier skill Still really enjoying the video, but I had to throw my 2 cents in on this. I promise I'm not just being nice to her so I can sleep with her sister (Blemi call me ;))
Added note: Her S3 is usable if there is a boss with high def,res and hp since when blocked by her or her summon from S3, she deals true dmg which can bypass shields,def,and res. So there are some use to it but not practically usefull in a lot of cenarios. S tier.
Honestly I think B tier is about right for NTR. Her S1 is a worse Blaze S2. Her S2 is a worse Texalter/Yato Alter. Her S3 is a worse... any boss killer? Against a boss that can demolish her Blazing Sun, it becomes useless quickly. If the boss needs True Damage, Kal'Tsit S3 is more reliable and flexible, and Amiya S3 (Caster) and S2 (Guard) are more accessible. If the boss can be taken out with Arts or Phys, then Mlynar, Pozy, Typhon, Ebenholz, Ceobe, Surtr, Horn, Qiubai etc pump out multiple times the damage compared to Nearl's cap. And that's not even taking into account future high DPS Operators like Degen, Ray, Wisadel, etc. NTR does cover more roles and niches than any single meta unit, but at the cost of not being as good at the niche as any of them. Maybe this might bump her up to B+ or A-, but NTR per se is not a meta unit, and the community usage and rankings also reflect that.
I find the idea of skalter "Falling off" kinda funny to me. I'll always use her just because she's just that good at both buffing and healing. I must say though that putting NTRK under ash has me feeling all sorts of ways. I just can't. I can't agree with that xD. You even mentioned her arguable m9 status, but the fact is that in most teams I can always fit her in because having that 12th slot be a character that doesn't take a deployment slot, deals a ton of damage just by being slapped down and then can tank some serious hits while also dealing really good damage? I just can't. I caaaaaaaaaan't.
Rosmontis is so underestimated by players that have no idea how to use her, while people that know exactly how to abuse her power love to play with her. Her S3 is just the fastest way to get rid of anything that can be blocked, often so fast you don't even see the end of the animation before everything near the pillars is dead, and with her module that even goes for heavy armored targets.
Just wanna correct with the First Alter, Lava The Purgatory was the first one introduced. But If your saying 1st Gacha Alter Then Skadi will be taking that title. Despite that Good Vid.
Lapland Alter S3 idea: A semi truck drives across the map vertically or horizontally based on Lappland's facing, dealing one hit of massive true damage to all enemies in the 3 rows/columns it covers.
I have 3 limited operators, and that is 3 more than i actually use you mentioned at the start the "artificially inflated rarity", and i completely agree - rare units doesn't mean they are necessary
So basically, if you need a brain to use them, they are lower on the list. (No, Rosmontis placement is not rng, if an enemy is in range that tile will always get priority, which means in most cases you can pinpoint very much where she pillars will spawn.)
Still doesn't make her good though. You'd have to be memeing for her to have any relevancy. Dusk and W are useless because they're in archetypes that are bad and because Wet Chen and Eyja exists for those purposes. And Nian is useless cause Hoshi is easier to get
@@rainzerdesu Thankfully the game doesn't punish your not having the best unit for the job (and relevancy doesn't matter much in a single person pvpless game) I mean I have rosmontis, dusk and chalter as well as nian and hoshi, and yet I can interchangeably use them and as long as I can clear the stage with 3 stars, I'm happy Also I disagree with dusk and W being bad just because of their archetypes
@@divinity_4 Whether the game punishes you or not is irrelevant. Just because the game doesn't force you to use a "meta" unit doesn't suddenly make Rangers an S tier sniper.
@@divinity_4 Useful - adj, able to be used for a rpactical purpose. Practical - adj, likely to succeed or be effective in real circumstances; feasible. Feasible - adj, possible to do easily or conveniently. To use him in all purpose play would require specific tryharding. Therefore, your result would not be achieved either "easily" or "conveniently". Useless.
Just to add to specter alt. Playing abyssal Hunter team in SSS is really op. The fact you can stack 10 times instead of regular 5 ops made my run almost afk. Double Specter usually the blocker in those abyss team
Okay, I can't really agree with several points of this video. 27:48 you say Gavialter gets points for synergizing with Mlynar. First, you didn't make synergy a case for previous Limiteds, or questioned their synergy in the case of Rosmontis. Secondly, Mlynar's kit has nothing to do with Gavialter. That their skills more or less match up is a happy coincidence as far as we know, and so it should have no bearing on Gavialter's placing. Why is this a point? Well: At 26:31, when talking about Specter Alter, you conclude that her kit is just "fine" even with her module. It's funny you mentioned the Module, because Specter Alter is notably highly synergistic with other Abyssal Hunters, whose modules all synergyze with other Abyssal Hunters. On her own with modules, Specter Alter is a decently strong lane-holder. When put up in a team focused on Abyssal Hunters with modules, however, she turns into a goddamn *monster,* being able to tank basically anything, punch back extremely hard, have fairly good uptime on her skills all while regenerating HP/s and buffing other equally stastistically-impressive units on your team. That is *true* synergy and it is completely ignored when talking about something in her kit, whereas you praise Gavial Alter for having a fake synergy invented by players. Anytime a new AH is released with a module, you can expect all AH to benefit from it, but who knows if the same will ever apply to Gavial or Mlynar. Mlynar at least does have some synergy in his kit with other Kazimierz ops, but not Gavial, she's a solo woman who happens to have a relatively self-sufficient kit that can fit into most teams, so what works is up to your account. This isn't even to mention that Gladiia, the keystone of Abyssal Hunter teams, is/was a *free unit* , whereas both Mlynar and Gavial have to be rolled. That's one topic. The second one I wanted to talk about is Chongyue 32:48 How is Mountain a better Chongyue??? Because they are both 6* Brawlers that automatically makes their kits comparable? Mountain's main use case is to be a cheap lane-holder with self-sustain, Chongyue's main use is to be a DPS who can hit off-lane or from behind a lane-holder, though he has enough bulk to lane-hold for a while. It's not to the same extent as Mountain's self-regen, but he also doesn't tank his defense to do it unlike Mountain. Mountain will fold against high-defense/high-attack and then he is no longer applicable to that situation. Chongyue isn't really built to block, but he does punch hard, and that means he is still applicable if set up well. If we want to talk about invented synergy like when we did Gavial Alter, then we can bring up Stainless, who single-handedly boosts every single attack-recovery Operator through his S3, and now Chongyue can charge his skill without needing to wait for enemies to come to him. He can even just spend his time operating the turret while waiting for the next wave. In some situations, if you expect a large mob to walk down the same lane, Mountain will be overwhelmed by numbers because he only has 2-block in his tile. Even if he's killing some, anything decently tanky will cause enemies to walk past him. Chongyue can preempt them with his range and potentially lane hold simply by killing them before they reach him. They don't work the same, ergo you can't really compare their kits just because they are in the same branch. Mountain compares with other block lane holders like Mudrock more than he does with Chongyue, and thus you can absolutely run both in your team for different situations and it'll be fine.
yeah, even now i would put W in B tier, as elite/boss enemies do have a lot more armor than they did before. having her in the same tier as nian and rosmontis is crazy for me. nian is mostly a side grade of hoshi, and ros... has some issues and with the modules made her a niche use, but W has always been a decent damage dealing and usable in most content.
Rosmontis. I remember I bring her everywhere during rainbow 6 collab. Sad to see her’s not being use anymore. I never thought her S3 as a skill mainly to stall XD. Since her s3 is her highest dmg skill. I just use her pillar as a bonus shield for enemy switch target and the stun at start of skill just to give her couple free hit in. I usually wait for the enemy to get closer 1 more block because I know she can’t hit outside range and I can manually retreat it. Her aoe multi hit crush the peon very fast and her module just made her just made her role of killing weak mob even better (the plant bug in SSS, bug in rainbow, bottle and cup, that thing look like spinning top in dmc4 in the future main story)… I don’t think Dusk s3 spawn summon on random, she only spawn on where she attack.
I don't really understand your review on dusk tbh, dusk's module y completely negates most of her drawbacks for skill 3, her dp cost is way lower and comparable to st casters, and she gains sp almost instantaneously if you manage to get her freelings into the field as soon as you deploy her. Also as others have pointed out the freeling placements are not random at all and will always target the tile the enemy is in. Even if you somehow end up having the enemy blocked by freeling at the edge of the range where dusk can't hit them, unlike rosmontis's skill you can always just retreat that freeling so that the enemy can come into the range again, and you can also recharge really damn quickly if any of those freelings are left over from the skill. And the fact that her attack stats are already crazy with all the buffs she gets from her talent and modules and stuff, I'd say her being an aoe caster is a blessing rather than a curse. Not meta breaking of course, but still a really _really_ good unit to have and nowhere near the bottom of the list.
Rosmontis pillar ain't random, they will prioritize landing on enemies close to the blue box in her range, if there are no enemies that's when it's random.
My max lvl M9 both module lvl 3 Dusk without skin cuz I want the one in Ambience Synesthesia is crying but my big brain likes to use her as a defender and don't bring defenders some times to force her to shine :v
I like how a lot of these positions in the tier list would be upside down if we were to rank them with base skills. Amazing tier list I agree with all of them except nearlter she should be in A in my opinion.
Since I haven't really seen anyone saying these in the comment, I want to point out a few issue with your Rosmontis, Dusk and Spalter review -Dusk and Rosmontis S3 does not place their summon at random. Rosmontis places the pillar on 2 enemies closest to the bluebox inside her range upon the activation of her skill. Dusk places her summons on enemies she attacked is there's space available, otherwise, nothing happen. -The issue of "if they place their summon/pillar at the edge of their attack range cause them to be unable to attack" is a completely false myth. You can literally see this for yourself in your Dusk footage at 14:47 where she attacked the enemy near the edge, summoned her summon on them, seemingly "pushed them to the edge of her range", but she can still attack them afterward. This is a technique that is referred to as Split-boxing. -Rosmontis also unable to attack air unit, on top of a pretty hefty DP cost, which are some of her biggest issue yet I don't remember you ever bringing it up. -Dusk Dp cost is ridiculous for the value she brings -Spalter clone is not invincible. It just does not have any block. This means that it can still take damage from ranged attacks as well as splash damage, however, melee only enemies will pass right through her and wont attack her. -Her clone damage is one of the biggest thing separating her from her base version. As said by another comment, Its art damage is surprisingly potent and the slow allows for a pretty darn good stall, which unlike her base form, who after using her S2, she just sit there and stunned, being almost useless. She also work much better with other abyssal hunter module. -Spalter, due to her being a Doll Keeper instead of a Centurion, Cost around 7 less dp to deploy (16 vs 23) or 5 if you P6 base Specter. This is a huge difference and got overlooked. Is she worth it to get if you already invested into her base form? That depends on you. Is she an upgrade over her base form? In vast majority of the situation, yes. I would argue she's a huge upgrade.
OK, so to add my two cents on Limited operators. we started out with Rosmontis and W, and I VERY rarely use either. would still kill for the phantom thief W skin. then we got Nian who, I only ever use in the workshop. lol. then we got uh Dusk and Ash, Skipped Dusk so I would have enough pulls to guarentee ash. Ash is pretty good, but I forget she exists. only ever use her s1 to clear 1-7 slightly quicker. then they decided to give global and CN their own limited events to make the schedule easier to adjust with the time lag. so we got Red skadi and Water Chen. both are good. I use Red skadi more because I use emnity ops more. she tends to smooth out high rarity clears since she basically adds 60 levels of stats to operators in range. then we get guard nearl who again I use all the time for S2 because it kills the thigs and doesn't use deploy limit. then we got specialist specter who again I love her mechanics and use her all the time. 2 block, hard to smush, does AOE arts damage and slow, good times. then we got gavial alter, who ...works but I'd usually rather use blaze s2. then we got texas and Yato who make Phantom look like garbage, and phantom isn't garbage. he just looks like it, in comparison. then we got muelseye who seems mid, but has a kit thats fun enough to want to try to make it work. doesn't bait fire as good as specter alter, but a 3 block unit for 12 DP that generates DP seems fine. just not uh, OMG must pull levels of broken like texas and yato and chen and such were. then we get eyjaberry and virutosa who I don't have, really haven't been sold on eyjaberry and kinda want viruosa and her mid 6 star astesia banner mate.
Spalter might not be as impressive as the others but she has more girlfriends than the others and with said girlfriends you just solo events with style, because what is better than winning with a group of Albino red eyes girls that smell like fish :v Also I was wrong, NTR has more GFs cuz I'm counting Shinning/Nightingale/Platinum/Gravel/Monique/Her own sister and aunt cuz she is NTR/Dokutah/half of RI cuz when she was a defender she was already a giga chad in RI. So yeah: Spalter in "Gimmick tier" and NTR in "The Tier"
As someone who has only about a 8 months in arknights, I have about 16 6* operators(including free ones) and out of them 5 are e2 and 6 aren't even leveled up. SO as a Mumu enjoyer(the sole reason I started playing about 3 months before her banner) and got her, my best bet is to just not deploy her but if I do then copy reed alter or lin on her clones and pray it goes well. My Mumu is just E1 rn but as soon as I have a decent roster of good operators I'll e2 her for more benefits.
Just to add a thing to Rosmontis, her s3 isn't random it prioritizes units in her range for the pilars. It doesn't mean you can't fuck up the placement but from my experience its really hard to if you actually think about what you're doing.
i genuinely maxed mumu but never ever once brought her to comps cuz of her and I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Myrtle. I try to play Mumu. My Myrtle prints more dp. I try to play Saileach. My Myrtle prints more dp. I try to play Vigil. My Myrtle have more impact. I want to play Texas the Omertosa. Her best team has myrtle. I want to play high dp guards, they all want myrtle. She grabs me by the throat. I grind for her. I clear for her. I give her the potential. She isn't satisfied. I pull Typhon. "I don't need this much damage" She tells me. "Give me more potential." She grabs my Thorns and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel my module more so I can print more dp." we dont have her module yet, I don't have enough orondum. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs her flag. She says "nah id print". There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure, no competition in dp printing. What a cruel world.
Disagree about dusk best skill being S3 honestly all 3 of her skills are super useful especially with her unique module giving sp regen per freeling S3 uptime is much better but not only that her S1 is amazing with M3 filling the same niche as eyja S2 but better IMO. her second module also reduces her dp cost by 8 (?? the fuck) and gives her attack speed which were the 2 things holding her back. her % damage talent is also great with S1 as without a buffer it gives her an additional multiplier. Her S2 definitely came in handy for as a early drop in certain stages. drop vanguard -> pop vanguard skill -> spawn dusk that attacks and spawns 2 freelings. now the lane is held for 25 second and after that your S2 is up and you just exterminate everything that comes. definetely not the best archetype but dusk is by far the best one and also has the best art in the game (main reason why i always bring her).
Super duper agree on this entire comment!! This video is good but I don't really get why he completely ignored the modules which more or less fixes most of her problems and makes her amazing to use, nowhere near useless as the video makes it seem. Just use module x for skill 1, module y for skill 3 and any for skill 2 (i admit this is my least used skill tho), although module y is already really flexible with all of her skills with dp reduction and sp regeneration. Definitely very biased but she is easily an S tier operator or at least a higher A+ with the module.
I think i can vouch for every new doctor that Ash is like the best support in the game, being able to attack air, priortize drones so no leaks, cheap DP, drop a stun grenade to prevent leak even more, and a fast s2 with short CD times that melts everything till skullcracker is everything a young doctor could want. I think i just spammed her as support unit at every stage until I watched kyostinv guides for 3-8 and events, so she's an S tier girl in my heart and I don't think I'm alone, Ash❤💥
I have to say Spectral really grown on me. I was initialy upset when i got her since i wanted Irene, but did end up building (and eventually maxing) her and after using her for a while i realised that 1.She doesen't rely on any other unit in the squad and survives in 99% cases on her own 2. She easiely kills trash mobs and (with either s2 or s3) elites 3.She is great decoy unit to shake attention off your more vulnerable operators 4. COME~ MORE~ MOOORE~ ahem yeah so she's easy to use, deals solid damage, can take a lot of damage, provides nice utility with s2 immortality and doll's movespeed debuff and she's cheap to deploy. Laurentina pretty much never leaves my main team and maybe she's not overpowered, but instead she's perfectly balanced as all things should be. Also placing Margaret bellow A tier is a blasphemy sir, you shall be corrected.
13:04 Jokes on you, I’ve read every piece of dialogue this game has ever put out, and I was actually hella hyped to see that resolution. But yeah…..it like me and 3 other people that felt that way.
im a day 1 player, occassional content creator and have all the limiteds (f2p btw). In my opinion it was a fair ranking overall but i think some units did get a slightly lower rating likely due to less experience from using them to properly rank them. Nian was an mvp for my day 1 clear of Pinch-Out and when properly invested she's very good defender that can tank right about anything while providing insane utility no other defender of her type does. W is very good aswell, many see great success using her in IS, i find her stunning bombs quite useful at times at her dmg is okayish. Rosmontis and Dusk are pretty bad here i can agree on. Hard to redeem these units. NTR and Specter Alter definetly should be bumped up a tier. NTR has been a clutch unit to have and she was also a key unit for me to successfully do Pinch out max score day 1. Specter works very well with her abyssal teammates and is quite fun combo. Lastly i'd also bump up Chongye which i'm sure many might actually disagree with me on this one, but Chongye is a cracked unit. He requires some brain power to be used as you gotta have good positioning and planning when playing a stage and also need to charge his skill up until it's up permanently but once you achieve these 2 he demolishes the stage. Surprisingly it's really not that difficult to get him to work, i'm using him very often and it makes for very nice fun auto clears once all is setup. I'm just trying my best not to give in to the urge to smoothbrain with texas and yato alter (i fail to resist the urge often).
Could you tell me your thoughts on why rosmontis and dusk are so bad? I can 100% vouch for dusk being a great unit but i only recently got and built rosmontis so i don't really know much about her (aside for the "cant hit drones" thing)
@@divinity_4 as day 1 player i have almost every operator ever released. If i had to chose my team rosmontis and dusk just doesn't cut it as there's just way better options. In general no 6* is bad, there's just layers to it and rosmontis and dusk are bottom tier.
@@wolfafe I see, I guess it depends on the playstyle as well I also have most of the meta characters like surtr, chalter, ling and others but I can still integrate dusk really well in my team to the point where I can play her as any other "delete button" character with her module; just plop in, wait for her skill 3 to charge and get a minute long big aoe damage + freelings. But yeah I can definitely agree that there are others that can do it better with lesser investment, still I don't think that means dusk and rosmontis are irredeemable since they already do their jobs very well
@@divinity_4 you can make argument that dusk is okay despite every other 6* mage being better than her but sure if fully invested she will do her job. On the rosmontis part tho, naw dawg she just bad either way. Surely if you fully invest and bring her in team with broken chars you can incorporate her but it's just how is. Their kits are underwhelming in comparison to the other roster of same tier. People do guides how they clear hardest stages using only 3-4 stars and 1 support unit which is a broken unit that basically does all the job while the 3-4 stars are just bodies. You can use any operator that way. I mean i love using my fully invested Ho'ol but admitted she's terrible in comparison to other mages, she's probably worse than dusk aswell but hey full investment i use her skill she hits some heavy hits still bad.
@@wolfafeI get it now, but dang I'm kinda disappointed to see that rosmontis isn't as good as I wanted her to be, but I guess I'll still try to use her somehow Also you really opened my eyes with the guide thing lol, although I'm sure it's not every guide out there but I definitely see that happening many times
As a guy who has all limited but Nian and Rosmontis I can agree with the list, although in my personal opinion skalter should be s+ since she can pretty much turn even the worst ops into useful ones
lucky enough to have completed all limited 6star ops with eyja. fave is mumu. water elf is life. also love the abyssal hunters with their modules. basically immortal when they in a squad.
As a long time f2p mumu was fun to save for Pairing her with dorothy or Exu is just a fun time all around. Texas dodging me just to give me trauma cat (and 11 more 6* counting dupes) is still the biggest punch in the face hypergriff's ever given me 😢
4:30 wait, no. 100 USD is not worth 30 pulls, it's 130 OP + 55 free OP for a total of 185 OP that converts to 33,300 worth of orundum, which equals to 55,5 pulls. For the worst scenario of 1800 pulls (which extremely rarely, if ever happens) you just need around 3,300 USD, almost halving the amount said in the video.
Useful vid. My first event when I start playing was with Ling banner and I got her. She was my main, till I got Texas alter. I easily get kirin yati from first pull, she is still level 1, after watching this I have to build her. For future, collecting all orginite for R6 rerun. I played R6 for it's first 3 years. Before it turned to mess. Never liked Ash, but here she looks adorable.
i play since launch and i am very lucky i have only once spent money and have every operator except some of the 5 stars that are locked through progression, and i have to say i really love how many options this game gives. i dont many uses for all these operators but i can clear nearly every map with just the operators that i like. of course some of them are broken but i also dont even use units like surtr and mlynar anymore. i think the depth of the game is amazing
Damn, full pot 6* is up to 6000$? Lucky me who have max pot in cost of couple of monthly cards... That actually was the best banner in my life, as I had no limited operators but Gavial from free pulls, and I ended up having max pot Texas, NTR, W and Skalter... While I was saving 300 just to spark W to get the K-On! squad
That’s if you gun it for a banner and that assumes absolute worst case scenario of you somehow not pulling a single copy and getting off banners every single time in your 1800 pulls since that’s 6 sparks. It’s absolute nuclear winter but it’s usually closer to like $400-$500 with sparks. Without… pray you don’t go that deep.
I have Muelsyse and Yato alter. I tell you what, it’s fun when right from start of map I can say: “fuck you I pull out my Hoshi twice, have fun go through that.”
for me, ling is the hardest to learn. Thou simple, you need to know how every map works and the timing. Chalter is the most "BALANCE" limited op in the game. She's a beast lmao deals twice massive damage, mid sp cost, slow enemies, semi afk op, increase range and can deal both aerial and land enemies.
A new video, it really must be Christmas....or close enough. The only one i would argue with to a degree is NTR, her true damage means she is one of the best ways to deal with arse hats that have ridiculous dodge, the other being the ex wife. I say this as a guy who has ntr but hasnt built her though and just borrows her when needed as i do feel that Kal can do her job if not better in most situations, though the double team with both will wreck most bosses. As for favourite it's hands down Gavial Alt as she for ages has been one of my fav AK characters and her alt is gorgeous and love the play style. I was also one of those ppl who ignored skill 2 and went straight into S3 and m3 that, 5 block, damage reduction, att speed and that terrifying noise... whenever i activate that skill i always hear "nom nom nom" in my head as she devours the poor sods. Plus she solos SSS. I am missing Nian(though not fussed even though she is very pretty, but i got hoshi), dusk (do kinda regret not trying hard for her as i do like her and her kit), Ash(again not fussed) but then the one i regret so hard not going broke for is Spectral......she is so damn gorgeous and I did the cardinal sin of buying her skin while not owning her. As a mostly f2p i am currently saving for her when she appears again in an even just to spark her, thats right dont care about other limited ops, i am rolling for her.
Until Eyjafjalla alter, Specter alter was the best way to heal enmity operators and that was huge for CC strats using Mudrock and others. I love using her even for regular operators for the good buffs too
Imo spectral has to be A tier at least cause she is such a good laneholder, her skill 2 is the same as the non alter one but the skill itsef is still very op in some situations, and the doll with her module upgraded has so much cc and dmg that even if they kill her the puppet will just kill them all. Even without considering the fact that she works best in the abyssal hunter team which is one of the best teams, she is still very strong,you just have to spend for her modules and you're good to go
The digimon bit is great, i wanted to say good shit on placing high. I know in card games running non meta decks is risky but i also know it's funny as your opponent probably don't know how to counter your deck lmao!
Thank you! It was super weird since the whole reason I did it, was because I told my friend I would beat Digimon Cybersleuth by year end and said I'd do this to make up for it, and grinded the deck with him. I probably could have gotten top 16 if I wanted too force draws as my opponents I lost to weren't good, but ran stall decks and I said I'd rather try to rush out and go full aggro instead of going to time, solely because there was no difference in prizing between top 16 vs top 32, so I didn't care enough about my rank either way.
I feel like Nian sucked for years but now that enemies have powercrept quite a bit a strong protector defender is actually really useful for a lot stages. I found her super useful on all the damazti cluster stages and in reclamation algorithm, for instance. With her X module I'd rate her even higher than Hoshi for tanking a single strong enemy. She's not S tier or anything but C tier feels outdated, to me. I definitely would have agreed a year ago.
Try broke gang pity pull :1 yellow head, blue and urundium, then play boss stage after that pull the 10x one. Usually you need 1-3 (x10) pull but after a month grinding you can afford that. I got all those limited char but none of them even max lv since broke gang doesnt even afford the lmd and exp to max it all but eagerly wanted to upgrade it all.
Is it bad that I have more fun using Grey alter than Rosemontis for general content? Like…I’m not out here saying Rosmontis is BAD, but idk, I hate the limitation of her skill 3 and skill 2 has the biggest thing going for it being that it’s one of the longest stun durations of any skill and lasts a while. I also think clinger in general being a sniper that can’t hit aerial enemies just feels….bad.
I disagree very hard on the chongyue assessment. He is not a worse mountain, that’s like saying gavial is a worse blaze (she’s better most of the time.) regardless, chongyue blows mountain out of the water when it comes to damage, and tbh since his release I haven’t touched mountain outside of VERY specific afk setups. His talent and his skill stack multiplicatively with each other. His dual strike works with his skill because instead of one 380% nukes, he does two. Even without a healer, he just kills everything before it even approaches him. With skalter, saria, or warfarin, he deletes 95% of enemies so easily I never look at his lane. The landholder tag is so saturated nowadays that just having self sustain isn’t enough to warrant being good. I can tell you haven’t used him enough to see the 3k red numbers on massive elite enemies.
I disagree on W only having 2 useful skill as I have used her S1 a frequently up precision stun sometimes. But I will agree that she has not aged the best... Until we get Walter who is a magic bombs caster.
From my experience: Nian - I'm not gonna lie... I think you rank Nian too low. Because of I don't got Hoshiguma until last month and I'm not level up Cuora. Nian is my one choice which has a solid defense and more blocks. (Which S2 is a more defense, art damage reflect and silence attackers) Rosmontis - I used her a lot so S3 I can confirm that it's not random....at least it's on the ground-enemies that nearest to her first. And the second pillar is on other spot if there are. If it not land too far you can retreat the pillar... it not have to use pillars to do damage though. But a block must been made to do so, fast-redeploy can do that. Specter - This... I'm not agree with you. On her doll-form it's a 3x3 square AOE arts damage with slow effect on top of that. Compare with base Specter will stun when S2 ended and the alter one that turn to doll after end of S2. I prefer alter one... (also alter version use less DP and really good stats too)
as a certified top nearl fan, i with all bias, i rate her s+ with no reason given. tho when you do need true damage, it's hard to beat nearl (imo) ling is good great for general content tho, best trust farm op lmao pulling texalter p5 was my best investment, grinding is to get the last pot at this point
I disagree with some of your takes on Spec alter, NTR knight, Gavialter, and Mumu. In your analysis of Specter alter her skill 2 was not given nearly enough credit. The invincibility period is 5 sec longer than her original, and doll form with mod x reduces movement speed by 60% and deals 80% atk as arts damage. While this skill overall has lower overall dps than skill 3, its general utility is much higher. There aren't many operators that can do what she can, which for me boosts her ranking. NTR knight's skill 3 is still to this day one of the few sources of true damage, its general usage is definitely lower than skill 2, but in specific instances when true damage is useful there aren't many altenatives. I feel Gavialter is rated a bit too highly. While she is a strong unit, her role as a centurion guard is quite easily replaceable and if her only specialty is her synergy with Mlynar then that shouldn't grant a S tier rating. And lastly, Muelsyse wouldn't be rated very high even if you have good operators for her to copy, because as a vanguard she is outshined by flag bearers and Ines, and her damage potential isn't higher than your average dps operator.
all agree except for Spelter, alone, yeah she is okay, but togetehr along with her abyssal, she is nigh unkillable, with extra hugh atk dmg, AoE as icing on the top. We all knew that abyssal hunter is AK golden girl all along, and togetehr, they are very very good
spalter is really good with abyssal team tho, i clear the story (yes to chapter 12) with abyssal team as main op, and damn how easy is that, consider you put gavial alter as s tier consider her synergy with other op, i think you should put spalter higher
As a max potential Chen alter haver, I STILL understand the outrage behind her. It’s ridiculous how good she is and there ZERO reason for her design to be the way it is. It’s so dumb.
chongus is busted with skalter. his skill does way more dmg due to it scaling of his usually low atk (which is buffed by skalter), and it solves his sustain problem. specter is a monster with the 3 other abyss hunters in the squad (only gladiia needs to be deployed, a free 6*, skadi and andreanna only have to be in squad) of course its harder to justify higher rankings due to them not being overpowered by themselves like yato or texas, but its kinda disingenuous to disregard what operators can do with support (to a certain extent of course, a full buff/debuff team wont save rosmontis) Even Nian is the beefeist tank in the game. (new cc is pinch out 2, dont fall for hypergryphs lies) I would also argue that yato s1 is the boss killer, a single other buff/debuff unit will allow her to absolutely shred higher def bosses. It isn't as braindead as s2, but its potential is much higher.
Pinch Out was the best event ever for the same reason it was the worst event ever. Never have I thought I’d activate Surtr’s “unlimited duration” skill three times without having to redeploy her.
thanks for the video, Omni. I still wonder about Chelter vs Typhon tough. Because in worst case, i need to spark Chelter on the anniv banner shop which mean i don't have anything left for Typhon. Can you give me some advice about that? Which one i need to pull?
Typhon users are LM7 appreciators so they are very big brain (hard to use) Chalter users are coomerbrained and smooth brained. Also Typhon will come back again so you’ll get another shot at her, but Chalter is legit top 5 and if you have Pozy you’re probably fine. Idk how good Typhon will be but she requires some set up
@@TheOmniBlade In that case, i already got almost every EX tier operators (based of gamepress), except Chelter and Ling. I want Chelter for general use, but when i think it again, my team is already strong enough with Mlynar ft. Yato-Texas duo for that purpose. So, it's make me wonder if Chelter will be "game changing" addition for general purpose or not. In Typhon case, IS#4 is what i set in mind, especially when i often got headache from many boss stage on previous IS. But, i'm not pretty sure how much i will use her for general content outside of boss stage. For clearing farther tiles like Typhon does, for now, i use Horn and GG which perform pretty amazingly for that niche.
I want to add a little something regarding Specter
If you have the rest of the abyssal hunters and are willing to invest into them (getting their modules), Specter becomes a genuine monster, capable of facing and surviving most things to the point that you'll rarely get to see the doll, while also dealing high amounts of damage; to actually threaten her the enemies need to get to One-shot levels of damage, in which case you just switch to S2 and laugh in their face while they keep whaling at her
Just adding Gladia (with module) to the same squad allows both of them to shrug off stuff like Manfred's artillery cannon as if it was nothing, and getting the whole squad together just all of them stupidly strong
With that being said, i don't think her placement should change as the requirements for her ro reach peak performance are really high, and on her own her preformance is still just aight
Not to mention you can pair her with original specter for immortal shenanigans. Just have them both together and trade off the doll form/self stun to block a boss for a good amount of time. The boss will be constantly blocked by the two, especially if they have an attack that makes them stop for a long period of time (such as the Steam Knight)
@@Myar692 stall knights but it sucks if you cant block the boss cause thier block count is low
bruh gavial that synergises with horse sword guy made her s and specter having broken abyssal hunter squad dosent change her placement
consistency much, and fr... gavial is A+, just better blaze
@@Murmur_65 eh, gavial doesnt really fit the same use case as blaze. i use blaze for my annis and afk setups. although in all other aspect for me gavial is better. its such a shame blaze only has 1 skill! no other skills!
@@VladumereAnd that is the same logic for why I don't agree with this video's assessment of Chongyue. Chongyue and Mountain being same archetype totally means their kits are comparable in the same usage case fr! Mountain is an actual lane-holder, Chongyue is about actually killing stuff beyond a low level of defense. Mountain is supposed to block, Chongyue is supposed to kill and spend little time blocking if possible.
Hands down, Gavial Atler best limited atler cause she can crush me with her ̶t̶h̶i̶g̶h̶s̶ battle axe🥰
Totaly with her battle axe 🥰🥰🥰
As if she'd ever pay attention to your existence
@@giuliasteele FALSE, she would, but not as a man, but as a homie.
Always happy to see an arknights vid from you!
Edit: The only placement I genuinely disagree with is W. While her archetype does hold her back a bit, her damage and crowd control is nothing to sneeze at. I think high B tier or low A tier would be a better placement for her.
C is about right. W is B tier when the map suits her kinda like ifrit. the problem with alot of later maps is they have alot of undeployable titles mainly near the enemy spawn so spawn camping with W s2 is no longer a thing. plus they have alot more angles in them, very hard to find a range spot where there is a convenient funnel with no angles where one ranged operator can cover a whole section of the map by themselves. go play an older map with W s2 and then play a modern map with her and see the vast difference. the only exception for map content would be IS since W does have good value in that mode while you are building your team out but i wouldn't say that would bring her up a whole tier overall since that is just one mode. plus she now competes with ground titles from other operators so this really leaves you with S3 for your general purpose skill and S3 is good damage when enemies are clustered but that is also map dependent. and with its year 1 sp recharge rates it requires far more thinking then modern operators where its just if the skill is ready just use it don;t worry about the recharge.
And you need to understand that Tier lists are for general use content. Using ifirit as an example she is S+ tier when she works just because she does high damage + debuff all in one on both skills, but she's C tier when she doesnt have her setup i.e. 1 tile. since now its okay if you don't need the debuff, would another caster be better in that spot that can only hit one tile?
Mentions Vigil while talking about Nian then says that Muelsyse is the 1st 6* Tactician Vanguard. 😆
Even vigil would say he isn’t a 6 star
Another video that insanely underrated Nian, she's literally one of the top CC operators of all time
Could u explain in more detail what she does? Im new to the game and currently saving for her and Chongyue bc i rlly like them and im in love with CC characters that can block a big amount of enemies bc it helps me a lot!
In case you haven't noticed it yet, weedy is also top cc operator but no where near next to meta monsters, your logic falls off because that's like 1 category compared to everything else
i don't think you need to change her rating but for rosmontis s3, the pillar spawns aren't entirely random
they prioritize tiles with enemies on them, and then prioritize closest to the blue box -- only if there are no enemies in range (or no deployable tiles with enemies on them) will the pillars drop randomly, so just a little bit of timing can prevent them from landing on a bad location. you can also retreat the pillars if they do land on a bad spot
Slight correction: You said for Skalter that her summon can be used for "double buffs or cover spots she's not at". Unfortunately, only the latter is true, the summon simply expands her range to include the 8 tiles around it. Putting it near an op already covered by Skalter doesn't provide a double buff. Kinda wish it did though!
Oh boy, I have opinions:
You really did NTR dirty man. She is powercreeped by all the new "delete buttons" added to the game, but she is still very good and usable. She has three really useful skills, with S1 for lane-holding (especially in annihilation) and S3 providing True Damage for bosses with hefty defenses or bullshit evasion (Manfred, Andonain...), her prime skill is S2. Apart from the big damage she ditches, she also goes over Deployment slots, making her very good on CC or as a panic button when you have your full set up and something goes south; and gets four shields, which makes her amazing against slow-hitting bosses. I will personally put her in S due to flexibility since I use her in almost all my clears (I avoid broken operators -Yato, Texas, Mylnar, and Ling- since they simplify the game too much in my opinion), and since you said that you would take into account their state when they were released, I think you should at least bump her to A. Please :)
Also, I find Gavialter a bit underwhelming on her own. Without her synergy with Mylnar, I don't think she is better than Blaze or OG Spectre, and find little reason to use her myself (Maybe because I "banned Mylnar). For me would be a B, but the fairest rating is probably an A.
On the other hand, you really did justice to my man Chungus, he is cracked if you plan for his little set-up. However, the top operators right now are already cracked without the need for planning or set-up :/. I also laughed hard at "Mumu, first 6* tactician vanguard". Hope it was intentional, love to see disrespect to poor Vigil.
I’m going to pin this to see how much more people want to chime in with their thoughts since I did feel like I was underselling how broken an extra free operator that isn’t a one star is. She ignores mechanics and that will always be valuable so maybe I was too harsh!
@@TheOmniBlade >_> tsk the disrespect man... go find people on your circle for same opinions and lets see how it turns out
Have to disagree on specter alter, especially if you run her with gladia module and spalters x module you have a nearly unkillable 2 block low dp cost unit that deals huge amounts of damage during skill 2 and deploys a doll with very high arts damage with a decent slow, with the bonus sp gain of the module ontop of the damage and slow buffs on the doll you get a very strong nearly unkillable unit that can cheese a lot of challenge content.
Her only con imo is that you need to invest heavily into her module and are prone to use one deployment slot for gladia too.
Otherwise great placements 👍
Spectral I think was the one operator where I genuinely didnt know how to rank. I felt so fraudulent talking about her since I have her but never use her since my smooth brain drops guards with Texalter and Yato making it so smooth it’s frictionless. I knew I wanted to finally build Gladia for a reason though, and this might be it
To expand on this even more, there's effectively 2 entirely different rankings for each of the AH units, depending on if you're ranking their performance alone, or ranking it with every AH in a team with their buffing modules. Like regular Skadi is a joke unit, Skadi with 30% DR, 50% more hp, 2.5% hp/second, more attack, skalter support etc. Is actually an absolute juggernaut.
I sometimes also just put skadi into the team for her passive attack buff that is active even if you dont deploy her to beef up my gladia and spalter even more haha@@zecrayz4840
This is the longest video I’ve worked on in years so I hope you all enjoy and let me know your thoughts (and if I screwed anything up again)
correction its HG not yostar who make the game.
yostar only publish the game so its all based on HG decision regarding operator kit.
Not that it matters, but Vigil was actually the first 6 star tactician vanguard, not mumu, but you’d be forgiven for forgetting Vigil is a 6 star. Hypergryph sure did…
A bit screwed where you forgot that Tachanka, Blitz, Frost are also a limited operator. Oh yeah, Rathalos Armor. Oh yeah, that cat collab thingy.
nian main skill has been s2 since like 2021 and is currently regarded as THE tankiest defender and has seeing use in max cc risk since her realease my prob aint the position, cus yeah shes just "yet another defender" for 90% of the player base and almost no one cares for max risk and similar but u gotta make her justice by talking about what nian truly does or she does what not even hoshi can
Isn't Cement the tankiest one against physical damage?
@@YokiraOkada only when shes tanking againts something like a mudrok golem she loses def as she gets attacked (doesnt matter how strong the hit is she gets her def reduced even regardless if the hit would 1 shot her or deal 1 dmg )
I haaaaddd to stop and pause when you placed NTR in B Tier.
So, skill 1 isn't necessarily crazy by itself, but there are so many spaces in the game where you can plop her behind a defender to shred some high DEF high ATK enemies in a fire and forget kinda way. That extra tile of reach makes a huge difference and she does so much consistent high damage in this form. Crazy versatile, very lazy. S Tier Skill
Skill 2 is busted. Unless you're running so omega-tight super clutch tier stage where you absolutely need 13 unique ops for the strat to work, she is basically a free include. Very helpful for blind runs, and even if the stage turns out to be easy and you don't need her, she can jut help end the stage faster with the added dps. Like you mentioned, also very good for melting those high ATK low ASPD enemies thanks to the shield. Makes her really good for chipping down one of those bosses with loads of health that meander around all stage. The stun I find comes in very helpful with this skill as well. S+
Oddly enough skill 3 is the one I find myself using the least. It's just very specific in when you want to use it, because let's be real any scenario you would want this skill why not just Surtr it? However for those who do NOT have Surtr like myself for the longest time having that flexibility on a unit with 2 already excellent skills makes her such a valuable swiss army knife of a unit. Plus you really get to stick it to those annoying dodge enemies that Surtr can't help with. A Tier skill
Still really enjoying the video, but I had to throw my 2 cents in on this. I promise I'm not just being nice to her so I can sleep with her sister (Blemi call me ;))
Added note: Her S3 is usable if there is a boss with high def,res and hp since when blocked by her or her summon from S3, she deals true dmg which can bypass shields,def,and res. So there are some use to it but not practically usefull in a lot of cenarios. S tier.
the tier list isn't end all, play who you want lol
someone still new she doesn't sound that crazy OP or anything, i think B tier is fine
Honestly I think B tier is about right for NTR.
Her S1 is a worse Blaze S2. Her S2 is a worse Texalter/Yato Alter. Her S3 is a worse... any boss killer? Against a boss that can demolish her Blazing Sun, it becomes useless quickly. If the boss needs True Damage, Kal'Tsit S3 is more reliable and flexible, and Amiya S3 (Caster) and S2 (Guard) are more accessible.
If the boss can be taken out with Arts or Phys, then Mlynar, Pozy, Typhon, Ebenholz, Ceobe, Surtr, Horn, Qiubai etc pump out multiple times the damage compared to Nearl's cap. And that's not even taking into account future high DPS Operators like Degen, Ray, Wisadel, etc.
NTR does cover more roles and niches than any single meta unit, but at the cost of not being as good at the niche as any of them. Maybe this might bump her up to B+ or A-, but NTR per se is not a meta unit, and the community usage and rankings also reflect that.
I find the idea of skalter "Falling off" kinda funny to me. I'll always use her just because she's just that good at both buffing and healing.
I must say though that putting NTRK under ash has me feeling all sorts of ways. I just can't. I can't agree with that xD. You even mentioned her arguable m9 status, but the fact is that in most teams I can always fit her in because having that 12th slot be a character that doesn't take a deployment slot, deals a ton of damage just by being slapped down and then can tank some serious hits while also dealing really good damage?
I just can't. I caaaaaaaaaan't.
i love how the first few limited banner just a additional ops that doesnt really overpower, and then there's chalter, ling, texalter, etc
For my take I'd make some slight adjustments to the list, otherwise, not bad.
Rosmontis is so underestimated by players that have no idea how to use her, while people that know exactly how to abuse her power love to play with her. Her S3 is just the fastest way to get rid of anything that can be blocked, often so fast you don't even see the end of the animation before everything near the pillars is dead, and with her module that even goes for heavy armored targets.
Glad to know I didn't do too bad in your eyes
Just wanna correct with the First Alter, Lava The Purgatory was the first one introduced. But If your saying 1st Gacha Alter Then Skadi will be taking that title. Despite that Good Vid.
Lapland Alter S3 idea: A semi truck drives across the map vertically or horizontally based on Lappland's facing, dealing one hit of massive true damage to all enemies in the 3 rows/columns it covers.
I have 3 limited operators, and that is 3 more than i actually use
you mentioned at the start the "artificially inflated rarity", and i completely agree - rare units doesn't mean they are necessary
As 1 of the 8 that has max pot Rosmontis, I feel attacked.
Soon to be 9 I just need 1 more pot, I love rosmontis she's incredibly fun to play
So basically, if you need a brain to use them, they are lower on the list.
(No, Rosmontis placement is not rng, if an enemy is in range that tile will always get priority, which means in most cases you can pinpoint very much where she pillars will spawn.)
Still doesn't make her good though. You'd have to be memeing for her to have any relevancy. Dusk and W are useless because they're in archetypes that are bad and because Wet Chen and Eyja exists for those purposes. And Nian is useless cause Hoshi is easier to get
@@rainzerdesu Thankfully the game doesn't punish your not having the best unit for the job (and relevancy doesn't matter much in a single person pvpless game)
I mean I have rosmontis, dusk and chalter as well as nian and hoshi, and yet I can interchangeably use them and as long as I can clear the stage with 3 stars, I'm happy
Also I disagree with dusk and W being bad just because of their archetypes
@@divinity_4 Whether the game punishes you or not is irrelevant. Just because the game doesn't force you to use a "meta" unit doesn't suddenly make Rangers an S tier sniper.
@@rainzerdesuyes but at the same time Rangers not being an S tier unit doesn't make him useless, that's the point I'm trying to get at
@@divinity_4 Useful - adj, able to be used for a rpactical purpose. Practical - adj, likely to succeed or be effective in real circumstances; feasible. Feasible - adj, possible to do easily or conveniently.
To use him in all purpose play would require specific tryharding. Therefore, your result would not be achieved either "easily" or "conveniently".
Useless.
Just to add to specter alt. Playing abyssal Hunter team in SSS is really op. The fact you can stack 10 times instead of regular 5 ops made my run almost afk. Double Specter usually the blocker in those abyss team
The Dusk disrespect is crazy
I spent 300 pulls on Rosmontis and i use her a lot so i would say she was worth it for me, gotta spend another 300 on Nian now
Okay, I can't really agree with several points of this video.
27:48 you say Gavialter gets points for synergizing with Mlynar. First, you didn't make synergy a case for previous Limiteds, or questioned their synergy in the case of Rosmontis. Secondly, Mlynar's kit has nothing to do with Gavialter. That their skills more or less match up is a happy coincidence as far as we know, and so it should have no bearing on Gavialter's placing.
Why is this a point? Well:
At 26:31, when talking about Specter Alter, you conclude that her kit is just "fine" even with her module. It's funny you mentioned the Module, because Specter Alter is notably highly synergistic with other Abyssal Hunters, whose modules all synergyze with other Abyssal Hunters. On her own with modules, Specter Alter is a decently strong lane-holder. When put up in a team focused on Abyssal Hunters with modules, however, she turns into a goddamn *monster,* being able to tank basically anything, punch back extremely hard, have fairly good uptime on her skills all while regenerating HP/s and buffing other equally stastistically-impressive units on your team.
That is *true* synergy and it is completely ignored when talking about something in her kit, whereas you praise Gavial Alter for having a fake synergy invented by players. Anytime a new AH is released with a module, you can expect all AH to benefit from it, but who knows if the same will ever apply to Gavial or Mlynar. Mlynar at least does have some synergy in his kit with other Kazimierz ops, but not Gavial, she's a solo woman who happens to have a relatively self-sufficient kit that can fit into most teams, so what works is up to your account. This isn't even to mention that Gladiia, the keystone of Abyssal Hunter teams, is/was a *free unit* , whereas both Mlynar and Gavial have to be rolled.
That's one topic. The second one I wanted to talk about is Chongyue
32:48 How is Mountain a better Chongyue??? Because they are both 6* Brawlers that automatically makes their kits comparable? Mountain's main use case is to be a cheap lane-holder with self-sustain, Chongyue's main use is to be a DPS who can hit off-lane or from behind a lane-holder, though he has enough bulk to lane-hold for a while. It's not to the same extent as Mountain's self-regen, but he also doesn't tank his defense to do it unlike Mountain.
Mountain will fold against high-defense/high-attack and then he is no longer applicable to that situation. Chongyue isn't really built to block, but he does punch hard, and that means he is still applicable if set up well. If we want to talk about invented synergy like when we did Gavial Alter, then we can bring up Stainless, who single-handedly boosts every single attack-recovery Operator through his S3, and now Chongyue can charge his skill without needing to wait for enemies to come to him. He can even just spend his time operating the turret while waiting for the next wave.
In some situations, if you expect a large mob to walk down the same lane, Mountain will be overwhelmed by numbers because he only has 2-block in his tile. Even if he's killing some, anything decently tanky will cause enemies to walk past him. Chongyue can preempt them with his range and potentially lane hold simply by killing them before they reach him. They don't work the same, ergo you can't really compare their kits just because they are in the same branch. Mountain compares with other block lane holders like Mudrock more than he does with Chongyue, and thus you can absolutely run both in your team for different situations and it'll be fine.
Something about W - she's in solid A for me, cause she's truly shines in IS mode
yeah, even now i would put W in B tier, as elite/boss enemies do have a lot more armor than they did before. having her in the same tier as nian and rosmontis is crazy for me. nian is mostly a side grade of hoshi, and ros... has some issues and with the modules made her a niche use, but W has always been a decent damage dealing and usable in most content.
Rosmontis. I remember I bring her everywhere during rainbow 6 collab. Sad to see her’s not being use anymore.
I never thought her S3 as a skill mainly to stall XD. Since her s3 is her highest dmg skill. I just use her pillar as a bonus shield for enemy switch target and the stun at start of skill just to give her couple free hit in. I usually wait for the enemy to get closer 1 more block because I know she can’t hit outside range and I can manually retreat it.
Her aoe multi hit crush the peon very fast and her module just made her just made her role of killing weak mob even better (the plant bug in SSS, bug in rainbow, bottle and cup, that thing look like spinning top in dmc4 in the future main story)…
I don’t think Dusk s3 spawn summon on random, she only spawn on where she attack.
I don't really understand your review on dusk tbh, dusk's module y completely negates most of her drawbacks for skill 3, her dp cost is way lower and comparable to st casters, and she gains sp almost instantaneously if you manage to get her freelings into the field as soon as you deploy her. Also as others have pointed out the freeling placements are not random at all and will always target the tile the enemy is in. Even if you somehow end up having the enemy blocked by freeling at the edge of the range where dusk can't hit them, unlike rosmontis's skill you can always just retreat that freeling so that the enemy can come into the range again, and you can also recharge really damn quickly if any of those freelings are left over from the skill. And the fact that her attack stats are already crazy with all the buffs she gets from her talent and modules and stuff, I'd say her being an aoe caster is a blessing rather than a curse. Not meta breaking of course, but still a really _really_ good unit to have and nowhere near the bottom of the list.
Rosmontis pillar ain't random, they will prioritize landing on enemies close to the blue box in her range, if there are no enemies that's when it's random.
oh really? that helps me out a lot because I have a rosmontis but only use her 2nd skill cause her 3rd was pretty quirky
People should really learn that they can just evacuate Dusk summons to let enemies walk into her range tbh
I luv how you picked up the torch Yii left behind, opening skits do be funny :>
My max lvl M9 both module lvl 3 Dusk without skin cuz I want the one in Ambience Synesthesia is crying but my big brain likes to use her as a defender and don't bring defenders some times to force her to shine :v
I will always support waifu over meta. If it works, then no reason to question the results
I like how a lot of these positions in the tier list would be upside down if we were to rank them with base skills. Amazing tier list I agree with all of them except nearlter she should be in A in my opinion.
Since I haven't really seen anyone saying these in the comment, I want to point out a few issue with your Rosmontis, Dusk and Spalter review
-Dusk and Rosmontis S3 does not place their summon at random. Rosmontis places the pillar on 2 enemies closest to the bluebox inside her range upon the activation of her skill. Dusk places her summons on enemies she attacked is there's space available, otherwise, nothing happen.
-The issue of "if they place their summon/pillar at the edge of their attack range cause them to be unable to attack" is a completely false myth. You can literally see this for yourself in your Dusk footage at 14:47 where she attacked the enemy near the edge, summoned her summon on them, seemingly "pushed them to the edge of her range", but she can still attack them afterward. This is a technique that is referred to as Split-boxing.
-Rosmontis also unable to attack air unit, on top of a pretty hefty DP cost, which are some of her biggest issue yet I don't remember you ever bringing it up.
-Dusk Dp cost is ridiculous for the value she brings
-Spalter clone is not invincible. It just does not have any block. This means that it can still take damage from ranged attacks as well as splash damage, however, melee only enemies will pass right through her and wont attack her.
-Her clone damage is one of the biggest thing separating her from her base version. As said by another comment, Its art damage is surprisingly potent and the slow allows for a pretty darn good stall, which unlike her base form, who after using her S2, she just sit there and stunned, being almost useless. She also work much better with other abyssal hunter module.
-Spalter, due to her being a Doll Keeper instead of a Centurion, Cost around 7 less dp to deploy (16 vs 23) or 5 if you P6 base Specter. This is a huge difference and got overlooked.
Is she worth it to get if you already invested into her base form? That depends on you. Is she an upgrade over her base form? In vast majority of the situation, yes. I would argue she's a huge upgrade.
OK, so to add my two cents on Limited operators.
we started out with Rosmontis and W, and I VERY rarely use either. would still kill for the phantom thief W skin.
then we got Nian who, I only ever use in the workshop. lol.
then we got uh Dusk and Ash, Skipped Dusk so I would have enough pulls to guarentee ash. Ash is pretty good, but I forget she exists. only ever use her s1 to clear 1-7 slightly quicker.
then they decided to give global and CN their own limited events to make the schedule easier to adjust with the time lag. so we got Red skadi and Water Chen. both are good. I use Red skadi more because I use emnity ops more. she tends to smooth out high rarity clears since she basically adds 60 levels of stats to operators in range.
then we get guard nearl who again I use all the time for S2 because it kills the thigs and doesn't use deploy limit.
then we got specialist specter who again I love her mechanics and use her all the time. 2 block, hard to smush, does AOE arts damage and slow, good times.
then we got gavial alter, who ...works but I'd usually rather use blaze s2.
then we got texas and Yato who make Phantom look like garbage, and phantom isn't garbage. he just looks like it, in comparison.
then we got muelseye who seems mid, but has a kit thats fun enough to want to try to make it work. doesn't bait fire as good as specter alter,
but a 3 block unit for 12 DP that generates DP seems fine. just not uh, OMG must pull levels of broken like texas and yato and chen and such were.
then we get eyjaberry and virutosa who I don't have, really haven't been sold on eyjaberry and kinda want viruosa and her mid 6 star astesia banner mate.
Welcome Back fellow Doctor 🎉
Spalter might not be as impressive as the others but she has more girlfriends than the others and with said girlfriends you just solo events with style, because what is better than winning with a group of Albino red eyes girls that smell like fish :v
Also I was wrong, NTR has more GFs cuz I'm counting Shinning/Nightingale/Platinum/Gravel/Monique/Her own sister and aunt cuz she is NTR/Dokutah/half of RI cuz when she was a defender she was already a giga chad in RI.
So yeah: Spalter in "Gimmick tier" and NTR in "The Tier"
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As someone who has only about a 8 months in arknights, I have about 16 6* operators(including free ones) and out of them 5 are e2 and 6 aren't even leveled up. SO as a Mumu enjoyer(the sole reason I started playing about 3 months before her banner) and got her, my best bet is to just not deploy her but if I do then copy reed alter or lin on her clones and pray it goes well. My Mumu is just E1 rn but as soon as I have a decent roster of good operators I'll e2 her for more benefits.
Just to add a thing to Rosmontis, her s3 isn't random it prioritizes units in her range for the pilars. It doesn't mean you can't fuck up the placement but from my experience its really hard to if you actually think about what you're doing.
Just blows past nearl being one of the few sources of big true damage....
i genuinely maxed mumu but never ever once brought her to comps cuz of her and I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Myrtle. I try to play Mumu. My Myrtle prints more dp. I try to play Saileach. My Myrtle prints more dp. I try to play Vigil. My Myrtle have more impact. I want to play Texas the Omertosa. Her best team has myrtle. I want to play high dp guards, they all want myrtle. She grabs me by the throat. I grind for her. I clear for her. I give her the potential. She isn't satisfied. I pull Typhon. "I don't need this much damage" She tells me. "Give me more potential." She grabs my Thorns and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel my module more so I can print more dp." we dont have her module yet, I don't have enough orondum. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs her flag. She says "nah id print". There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure, no competition in dp printing. What a cruel world.
Disagree about dusk best skill being S3 honestly all 3 of her skills are super useful especially with her unique module giving sp regen per freeling S3 uptime is much better but not only that her S1 is amazing with M3 filling the same niche as eyja S2 but better IMO. her second module also reduces her dp cost by 8 (?? the fuck) and gives her attack speed which were the 2 things holding her back. her % damage talent is also great with S1 as without a buffer it gives her an additional multiplier. Her S2 definitely came in handy for as a early drop in certain stages. drop vanguard -> pop vanguard skill -> spawn dusk that attacks and spawns 2 freelings. now the lane is held for 25 second and after that your S2 is up and you just exterminate everything that comes. definetely not the best archetype but dusk is by far the best one and also has the best art in the game (main reason why i always bring her).
Super duper agree on this entire comment!! This video is good but I don't really get why he completely ignored the modules which more or less fixes most of her problems and makes her amazing to use, nowhere near useless as the video makes it seem. Just use module x for skill 1, module y for skill 3 and any for skill 2 (i admit this is my least used skill tho), although module y is already really flexible with all of her skills with dp reduction and sp regeneration. Definitely very biased but she is easily an S tier operator or at least a higher A+ with the module.
Also I didn't know her second module also buffs her attack speed what da heck?!?!
NTR is amazing also because her EN va is Lae’zel from Baldurs Gate 3 (Devora Wilde)
I need to play that with my new PC, I’ve started getting more into tabletop so it seems like something up my alley!
I have 3 of those. Rosmontis, Texalter, and Yalter. Yes. Texalter and Yalter together, both on S2, delete bosses in seconds.
Hehe, i also have both but eh you need like a lot of deployments of them to kill an average boss with high res and def
I started playing during Nian’s banner and I was really lucky I got her. I actually didn’t even realize she was limited until way later
NTR having true damage is very good to remember for many of the recent fights. And Mylanr really pumped NTR up.
I think i can vouch for every new doctor that Ash is like the best support in the game, being able to attack air, priortize drones so no leaks, cheap DP, drop a stun grenade to prevent leak even more, and a fast s2 with short CD times that melts everything till skullcracker is everything a young doctor could want. I think i just spammed her as support unit at every stage until I watched kyostinv guides for 3-8 and events, so she's an S tier girl in my heart and I don't think I'm alone, Ash❤💥
love how you called muelsyse the first 6* tactician vanguard not even counting vigil in cause he's garbage
His ass is not tacticing with that thing made of paper
I have to say Spectral really grown on me. I was initialy upset when i got her since i wanted Irene, but did end up building (and eventually maxing) her and after using her for a while i realised that 1.She doesen't rely on any other unit in the squad and survives in 99% cases on her own 2. She easiely kills trash mobs and (with either s2 or s3) elites 3.She is great decoy unit to shake attention off your more vulnerable operators 4. COME~ MORE~ MOOORE~ ahem yeah so she's easy to use, deals solid damage, can take a lot of damage, provides nice utility with s2 immortality and doll's movespeed debuff and she's cheap to deploy. Laurentina pretty much never leaves my main team and maybe she's not overpowered, but instead she's perfectly balanced as all things should be. Also placing Margaret bellow A tier is a blasphemy sir, you shall be corrected.
you did not have to shame zamazenta like that man
2:24 - 2:27 "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe" (c) Einstein
13:04
Jokes on you, I’ve read every piece of dialogue this game has ever put out, and I was actually hella hyped to see that resolution. But yeah…..it like me and 3 other people that felt that way.
im a day 1 player, occassional content creator and have all the limiteds (f2p btw). In my opinion it was a fair ranking overall but i think some units did get a slightly lower rating likely due to less experience from using them to properly rank them. Nian was an mvp for my day 1 clear of Pinch-Out and when properly invested she's very good defender that can tank right about anything while providing insane utility no other defender of her type does. W is very good aswell, many see great success using her in IS, i find her stunning bombs quite useful at times at her dmg is okayish. Rosmontis and Dusk are pretty bad here i can agree on. Hard to redeem these units. NTR and Specter Alter definetly should be bumped up a tier. NTR has been a clutch unit to have and she was also a key unit for me to successfully do Pinch out max score day 1. Specter works very well with her abyssal teammates and is quite fun combo. Lastly i'd also bump up Chongye which i'm sure many might actually disagree with me on this one, but Chongye is a cracked unit. He requires some brain power to be used as you gotta have good positioning and planning when playing a stage and also need to charge his skill up until it's up permanently but once you achieve these 2 he demolishes the stage. Surprisingly it's really not that difficult to get him to work, i'm using him very often and it makes for very nice fun auto clears once all is setup. I'm just trying my best not to give in to the urge to smoothbrain with texas and yato alter (i fail to resist the urge often).
Could you tell me your thoughts on why rosmontis and dusk are so bad? I can 100% vouch for dusk being a great unit but i only recently got and built rosmontis so i don't really know much about her (aside for the "cant hit drones" thing)
@@divinity_4 as day 1 player i have almost every operator ever released. If i had to chose my team rosmontis and dusk just doesn't cut it as there's just way better options. In general no 6* is bad, there's just layers to it and rosmontis and dusk are bottom tier.
@@wolfafe I see, I guess it depends on the playstyle as well
I also have most of the meta characters like surtr, chalter, ling and others but I can still integrate dusk really well in my team to the point where I can play her as any other "delete button" character with her module; just plop in, wait for her skill 3 to charge and get a minute long big aoe damage + freelings. But yeah I can definitely agree that there are others that can do it better with lesser investment, still I don't think that means dusk and rosmontis are irredeemable since they already do their jobs very well
@@divinity_4 you can make argument that dusk is okay despite every other 6* mage being better than her but sure if fully invested she will do her job. On the rosmontis part tho, naw dawg she just bad either way. Surely if you fully invest and bring her in team with broken chars you can incorporate her but it's just how is. Their kits are underwhelming in comparison to the other roster of same tier.
People do guides how they clear hardest stages using only 3-4 stars and 1 support unit which is a broken unit that basically does all the job while the 3-4 stars are just bodies. You can use any operator that way. I mean i love using my fully invested Ho'ol but admitted she's terrible in comparison to other mages, she's probably worse than dusk aswell but hey full investment i use her skill she hits some heavy hits still bad.
@@wolfafeI get it now, but dang I'm kinda disappointed to see that rosmontis isn't as good as I wanted her to be, but I guess I'll still try to use her somehow
Also you really opened my eyes with the guide thing lol, although I'm sure it's not every guide out there but I definitely see that happening many times
As a guy who has all limited but Nian and Rosmontis I can agree with the list, although in my personal opinion skalter should be s+ since she can pretty much turn even the worst ops into useful ones
All these ringing endorsements for Eyja
AND SHE STILL EVADES ME
Specter in B… in B for “just use both of them”
Ah, you're back...
I failed to get Mumu and got that crazy looking Aunty instead 😭
lucky enough to have completed all limited 6star ops with eyja. fave is mumu. water elf is life. also love the abyssal hunters with their modules. basically immortal when they in a squad.
as someone who exclusively uses limited ops, hell yeah
As a long time f2p mumu was fun to save for
Pairing her with dorothy or Exu is just a fun time all around.
Texas dodging me just to give me trauma cat (and 11 more 6* counting dupes) is still the biggest punch in the face hypergriff's ever given me 😢
4:30 wait, no. 100 USD is not worth 30 pulls, it's 130 OP + 55 free OP for a total of 185 OP that converts to 33,300 worth of orundum, which equals to 55,5 pulls. For the worst scenario of 1800 pulls (which extremely rarely, if ever happens) you just need around 3,300 USD, almost halving the amount said in the video.
Useful vid. My first event when I start playing was with Ling banner and I got her. She was my main, till I got Texas alter. I easily get kirin yati from first pull, she is still level 1, after watching this I have to build her. For future, collecting all orginite for R6 rerun. I played R6 for it's first 3 years. Before it turned to mess. Never liked Ash, but here she looks adorable.
i play since launch and i am very lucky i have only once spent money and have every operator except some of the 5 stars that are locked through progression, and i have to say i really love how many options this game gives. i dont many uses for all these operators but i can clear nearly every map with just the operators that i like. of course some of them are broken but i also dont even use units like surtr and mlynar anymore. i think the depth of the game is amazing
Damn, full pot 6* is up to 6000$? Lucky me who have max pot in cost of couple of monthly cards... That actually was the best banner in my life, as I had no limited operators but Gavial from free pulls, and I ended up having max pot Texas, NTR, W and Skalter... While I was saving 300 just to spark W to get the K-On! squad
That’s if you gun it for a banner and that assumes absolute worst case scenario of you somehow not pulling a single copy and getting off banners every single time in your 1800 pulls since that’s 6 sparks.
It’s absolute nuclear winter but it’s usually closer to like $400-$500 with sparks. Without… pray you don’t go that deep.
I have Muelsyse and Yato alter. I tell you what, it’s fun when right from start of map I can say: “fuck you I pull out my Hoshi twice, have fun go through that.”
for me, ling is the hardest to learn. Thou simple, you need to know how every map works and the timing. Chalter is the most "BALANCE" limited op in the game. She's a beast lmao deals twice massive damage, mid sp cost, slow enemies, semi afk op, increase range and can deal both aerial and land enemies.
All I need in my life Is Texas the omertosa baner rerun.
A new video, it really must be Christmas....or close enough.
The only one i would argue with to a degree is NTR, her true damage means she is one of the best ways to deal with arse hats that have ridiculous dodge, the other being the ex wife. I say this as a guy who has ntr but hasnt built her though and just borrows her when needed as i do feel that Kal can do her job if not better in most situations, though the double team with both will wreck most bosses.
As for favourite it's hands down Gavial Alt as she for ages has been one of my fav AK characters and her alt is gorgeous and love the play style. I was also one of those ppl who ignored skill 2 and went straight into S3 and m3 that, 5 block, damage reduction, att speed and that terrifying noise... whenever i activate that skill i always hear "nom nom nom" in my head as she devours the poor sods. Plus she solos SSS.
I am missing Nian(though not fussed even though she is very pretty, but i got hoshi), dusk (do kinda regret not trying hard for her as i do like her and her kit), Ash(again not fussed) but then the one i regret so hard not going broke for is Spectral......she is so damn gorgeous and I did the cardinal sin of buying her skin while not owning her. As a mostly f2p i am currently saving for her when she appears again in an even just to spark her, thats right dont care about other limited ops, i am rolling for her.
Until Eyjafjalla alter, Specter alter was the best way to heal enmity operators and that was huge for CC strats using Mudrock and others. I love using her even for regular operators for the good buffs too
When I heard that Ash is coming back, I cried
Imo spectral has to be A tier at least cause she is such a good laneholder, her skill 2 is the same as the non alter one but the skill itsef is still very op in some situations, and the doll with her module upgraded has so much cc and dmg that even if they kill her the puppet will just kill them all. Even without considering the fact that she works best in the abyssal hunter team which is one of the best teams, she is still very strong,you just have to spend for her modules and you're good to go
The digimon bit is great, i wanted to say good shit on placing high. I know in card games running non meta decks is risky but i also know it's funny as your opponent probably don't know how to counter your deck lmao!
Thank you! It was super weird since the whole reason I did it, was because I told my friend I would beat Digimon Cybersleuth by year end and said I'd do this to make up for it, and grinded the deck with him. I probably could have gotten top 16 if I wanted too force draws as my opponents I lost to weren't good, but ran stall decks and I said I'd rather try to rush out and go full aggro instead of going to time, solely because there was no difference in prizing between top 16 vs top 32, so I didn't care enough about my rank either way.
I love your arknights videos
And I love you random watcher for your support!
I feel like Nian sucked for years but now that enemies have powercrept quite a bit a strong protector defender is actually really useful for a lot stages. I found her super useful on all the damazti cluster stages and in reclamation algorithm, for instance. With her X module I'd rate her even higher than Hoshi for tanking a single strong enemy. She's not S tier or anything but C tier feels outdated, to me. I definitely would have agreed a year ago.
That intro….I didn’t know Yii schizophrenia was infectious.
Use mumu second skill (able to heal her summon) and copy penance , undestruction summons 😂😂😂
Nian might be C tier but shes S++++++ tier as a waifu and in my heart
Vigil being ignored like the middle child in a family
Try broke gang pity pull :1 yellow head, blue and urundium, then play boss stage after that pull the 10x one. Usually you need 1-3 (x10) pull but after a month grinding you can afford that. I got all those limited char but none of them even max lv since broke gang doesnt even afford the lmd and exp to max it all but eagerly wanted to upgrade it all.
Is it bad that I have more fun using Grey alter than Rosemontis for general content? Like…I’m not out here saying Rosmontis is BAD, but idk, I hate the limitation of her skill 3 and skill 2 has the biggest thing going for it being that it’s one of the longest stun durations of any skill and lasts a while.
I also think clinger in general being a sniper that can’t hit aerial enemies just feels….bad.
37:10 sad vigil on the corner
I disagree very hard on the chongyue assessment. He is not a worse mountain, that’s like saying gavial is a worse blaze (she’s better most of the time.) regardless, chongyue blows mountain out of the water when it comes to damage, and tbh since his release I haven’t touched mountain outside of VERY specific afk setups. His talent and his skill stack multiplicatively with each other. His dual strike works with his skill because instead of one 380% nukes, he does two. Even without a healer, he just kills everything before it even approaches him. With skalter, saria, or warfarin, he deletes 95% of enemies so easily I never look at his lane. The landholder tag is so saturated nowadays that just having self sustain isn’t enough to warrant being good. I can tell you haven’t used him enough to see the 3k red numbers on massive elite enemies.
I disagree on W only having 2 useful skill as I have used her S1 a frequently up precision stun sometimes. But I will agree that she has not aged the best... Until we get Walter who is a magic bombs caster.
When you use Ling don't bring any lane holder and healers. Just bring 2 vanguards and use heli drops for the rest. 😅
From my experience:
Nian - I'm not gonna lie... I think you rank Nian too low. Because of I don't got Hoshiguma until last month and I'm not level up Cuora. Nian is my one choice which has a solid defense and more blocks. (Which S2 is a more defense, art damage reflect and silence attackers)
Rosmontis - I used her a lot so S3 I can confirm that it's not random....at least it's on the ground-enemies that nearest to her first. And the second pillar is on other spot if there are. If it not land too far you can retreat the pillar... it not have to use pillars to do damage though. But a block must been made to do so, fast-redeploy can do that.
Specter - This... I'm not agree with you. On her doll-form it's a 3x3 square AOE arts damage with slow effect on top of that. Compare with base Specter will stun when S2 ended and the alter one that turn to doll after end of S2. I prefer alter one... (also alter version use less DP and really good stats too)
as a certified top nearl fan, i with all bias, i rate her s+ with no reason given. tho when you do need true damage, it's hard to beat nearl (imo)
ling is good great for general content tho, best trust farm op lmao
pulling texalter p5 was my best investment, grinding is to get the last pot at this point
I disagree with some of your takes on Spec alter, NTR knight, Gavialter, and Mumu.
In your analysis of Specter alter her skill 2 was not given nearly enough credit. The invincibility period is 5 sec longer than her original, and doll form with mod x reduces movement speed by 60% and deals 80% atk as arts damage. While this skill overall has lower overall dps than skill 3, its general utility is much higher. There aren't many operators that can do what she can, which for me boosts her ranking.
NTR knight's skill 3 is still to this day one of the few sources of true damage, its general usage is definitely lower than skill 2, but in specific instances when true damage is useful there aren't many altenatives.
I feel Gavialter is rated a bit too highly. While she is a strong unit, her role as a centurion guard is quite easily replaceable and if her only specialty is her synergy with Mlynar then that shouldn't grant a S tier rating.
And lastly, Muelsyse wouldn't be rated very high even if you have good operators for her to copy, because as a vanguard she is outshined by flag bearers and Ines, and her damage potential isn't higher than your average dps operator.
I am one of those 8 Dokutahs that P6d Rosmontis on her banner. Hahaha.
all agree except for Spelter, alone, yeah she is okay, but togetehr along with her abyssal, she is nigh unkillable, with extra hugh atk dmg, AoE as icing on the top. We all knew that abyssal hunter is AK golden girl all along, and togetehr, they are very very good
spalter is really good with abyssal team tho, i clear the story (yes to chapter 12) with abyssal team as main op, and damn how easy is that, consider you put gavial alter as s tier consider her synergy with other op, i think you should put spalter higher
As a max potential Chen alter haver, I STILL understand the outrage behind her. It’s ridiculous how good she is and there ZERO reason for her design to be the way it is. It’s so dumb.
Schrodinger's operator with Mumu.
for me Nian is in tier s+ only for her beautiful aspect
chongus is busted with skalter. his skill does way more dmg due to it scaling of his usually low atk (which is buffed by skalter), and it solves his sustain problem.
specter is a monster with the 3 other abyss hunters in the squad (only gladiia needs to be deployed, a free 6*, skadi and andreanna only have to be in squad)
of course its harder to justify higher rankings due to them not being overpowered by themselves like yato or texas, but its kinda disingenuous to disregard what operators can do with support (to a certain extent of course, a full buff/debuff team wont save rosmontis)
Even Nian is the beefeist tank in the game. (new cc is pinch out 2, dont fall for hypergryphs lies)
I would also argue that yato s1 is the boss killer, a single other buff/debuff unit will allow her to absolutely shred higher def bosses. It isn't as braindead as s2, but its potential is much higher.
I have like 10 limiteds and the only one I always use on every stage is spectral
my guy, Nian should be in A tier, galvial alter also, she's too much to be in S tier
Pinch Out was the best event ever for the same reason it was the worst event ever. Never have I thought I’d activate Surtr’s “unlimited duration” skill three times without having to redeploy her.
thanks for the video, Omni. I still wonder about Chelter vs Typhon tough. Because in worst case, i need to spark Chelter on the anniv banner shop which mean i don't have anything left for Typhon.
Can you give me some advice about that? Which one i need to pull?
Typhon users are LM7 appreciators so they are very big brain (hard to use)
Chalter users are coomerbrained and smooth brained.
Also Typhon will come back again so you’ll get another shot at her, but Chalter is legit top 5 and if you have Pozy you’re probably fine. Idk how good Typhon will be but she requires some set up
@@TheOmniBlade In that case, i already got almost every EX tier operators (based of gamepress), except Chelter and Ling.
I want Chelter for general use, but when i think it again, my team is already strong enough with Mlynar ft. Yato-Texas duo for that purpose. So, it's make me wonder if Chelter will be "game changing" addition for general purpose or not.
In Typhon case, IS#4 is what i set in mind, especially when i often got headache from many boss stage on previous IS. But, i'm not pretty sure how much i will use her for general content outside of boss stage. For clearing farther tiles like Typhon does, for now, i use Horn and GG which perform pretty amazingly for that niche.
I got both kirin R yato and Texas alter but I don’t know a good team for either of them