@not hing lol on Element/Matrix you can create your own server lol so all your metadata was on your server inshort there's no need to worry about it sir
Same. I think it might have something to do with the Linux community. It's pre-installed, or easily available (by that, I mean the front page of a Repo Store) on a lot of Distros, I think some make the connection that it's automatically private because of that. That's the only reason I can think of, anyway.
@@MK-of7qw Phantoms don't add any real value to the game, other than providing material to repair elytras. But at the same time, they greatly diminish the player's freedom by effectively "punishing" them for not sleeping regularly. Phantoms are especially bad on multiplayer servers, where all the players must be sleeping at the same time in order to skip the night.
Glad to see Session get some love, remember finding the project a good while ago & thinking it could easily become a Signal competitor. Can't wait to see the "Ultimate Comparison" video. Any chance of getting more videos like this regarding Browsers, MobileOS, & PC OS? Your videos have been a great help on my personal journey towards privacy
@@macktheripper7454 He wasn't really wrong about anything in the video, it's more that the problems he raised in it don't actually affect his average viewer. People were freaking out like they needed to delete Signal overnight when a "wait and see" approach makes a lot more sense for the majority of us.
Threema is my major messenger. It's from Switzerland with Switzerland laws and all servers are in Switzerland. It's fully crypted. Check it i use it for more than 6 years...
Y'all are sad about Telegram being so "bad" while it is way more than a messenger. The possibilites and cross platform support is unmatched, there are bots you can program yourself, huge public groups, channels, secret chats, files up to 2 GB can be shared, many privacy features and much more. It has so many use cases! And the monetization is needed, especially with half a billion users. And they want them to make private and not in private chats but only public channels, so the average user won't see them much :) It's also the most relieably and convienent to use out of all the messengers, tho escpecially signal is also great! Just my opinion :)
agreed I enjoy Tele for all the options.I just know the nature of the beast.If I need to say something really private I will hop on over to signal.They all have their positions.
He just have the sane feeling that you shouldn't you anything in this world and just stick to the idea that all people and main stream apps are made by terrorists
I wouldn't even have Element/Riot on the list honestly. The included rooms list had openly visible child pornography boards all throughout. This is the default list we are talking about here, no searching required. They should honestly be shut down until they can properly curate the rooms they supply people with. Been a problem for multiple years.
Briar seems like a dream to me! No annoying voice messages, video calls or anything. Just pure text messaging, I love it. 7:27 why was that so funny to me? :D Maybe because of the trollface and because I expected him to stay honest. :P
@Unknown Ghost Shadow activists, dissidents, whistleblower? Not only criminals need privacy... Briar is a great tool that can save (innocent) people' s live
People around me are finally moving towards Signal, and now I have a Pixel 4a 5g with CalyxOS, and Signal drains my battery like crazy. Without it, I can go 3-4 days on 1 charge, with it 2 days, max. Super annoying.
I've got most of my friends on signal now, and more keep popping up as 'now on signal' from time to time. So, switching yet again to another app isn't going to happen unless something major goes wrong with it. And it does have a good balance of usability and privacy.
Threema for me. I don't care if I have to pay the equivalent of a Starbucks coffee to use it or that it has a small user base. Important to me is: no telephone number required for registration.
@@hhhgggdsВи праві, дані платіжної картки надаються саме Швейцарській компанії Treema, яка несе відповідальність ща Вашу конфіденційність! Так що в цьому поганого, якщо Ви не злочинець, чи не терорист, чи не шпигун? Я наприклад довіряю уряду Швейцарії та підходом там людей до бізнесу! Але якби я був хакером то мабуть вибрав Briar und SimpleX )
Session is based in Australia which has anti encryption laws. Signal uses Amazon web servers. Matrix not true decentralized and is inneficient to run your own server. No xmpp conversations?
I think the list is missing XMPP Conversations? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. - Better federation than Matrix Element - End-to-end encryption through OMEMO - Doesn't require a number I don't use XMPP, though. I just read about it, so I'd really like to hear your thoughts on it before trying!
How does it have better federation than Element, awh Matrix you mean? Don't know how much I should value this opinion since you can't distinguish Element and Matrix. OMEMO lacks of cross signing, and doesn't have native group support like MEGOLM does.
@@climatechangedoesntbargain9140 Oh, you'd be right to doubt my opinion. I don't know the technical parts of encrypted messaging. That's why I'm asking for the Techlore team's thoughts. To my understanding, XMPP is the protocol used in the Conversations (messaging client), while Matrix is the messaging protocol for Element (messaging client). Correct me if I'm wrong. I draw those points mainly from Rob Braxman Tech. He said that the vast majority of users of the matrix messaging platform are in two servers (matrix.org and element.io servers). So, in practice, the platform is centralized as a duopoly, while XMPP Conversations has (maybe?) hundreds of servers. As for OMEMO, I really don't know much about that part. I don't know what cross signing is or what native group support is. I'll try reading about those, but I doubt I'll understand it really
No ones talking about xmpp with pgp. I wonder why, cause thats the ultimate privacy method as of now! May be its because its not normal people friendly.
Does the lack of end to end encryption really make Telegram less secure or private? Can you please explain why? I mean, Telegram has done a lot to make their apps usable even when it is censored in that country and all their apps are open source. Signal doesn't have open source clients
It DOES have end to end encryption for SECRET CHATS. The thing is that telegram was made with the intention to be cross platform so your messages can be accessible on multiple devices at once. Should every chat be end to end encrypted, they won't be accessible on the desktop or web client. That's the reason secret chats cannot be seen on the web or desktop, only server based chats can.
In reality, ALL chats are encrypted. Normal chats use server to client encryption while secret chats use end to end encryption (for this reason they can only be read on the phones of both the sender and the receiver).
Because telegram offers unlimited cloud storage and public channels In my country it used to pirate movies and web series isp wont block better than torrent :)
@@R1ch4rd yaa that's right and ur guess is right .wbu? Edit . some company give copyright strike to those pirating public channel and telegram used to ban them
@@cheemsdog7757 not to offend, but I assumed you're from India by your writing style and grammar. And also Telegram is popular in India for those reasons you specified.
Very good work bravo !, I found your channel recently and I really loved your work continue to inform and help people about anonymity.Γreetings from Greece! Peace n stay safe!
What about Jami and Threema? I want to know @techlore review on these apps. I don't care about what people voted for in community poll. And your thoughts on XMPP?
Signal is great, the worst con for me is both phone number requirement aaand not storing messages in an password encrypted database and "forcing" us to use something like molly-im (fork of signal with encrypted storage)
I’ll say it again . THREAT MODEL. Define yours, and do your research to find and use what gives you peace of mind. This is just a list of 4 (or 6) decent options.
I'm with you. So many important features requested and needed and for an entire year they did none of them but set up a fecking digital coin that has a steaming pile of shenanigans with them. Awesome, Moxie.
Getting non-techies to use a new messaging service is hard enough which is why Signal should be number 1 since no one is going to get most people to use Briar. Let's be realistic.
I am currently using Wire, also some Telegram. And I am testing Session and Jami. Jami is not on this list. Also Jitsi meet will do for an alternative to Zoom.
@@vicstoron The gov of course. But politicians are violating our rights with the spyware they subsidize. They should be making completely open source systems the mandatory standard perhaps by making closed source spyware systems illegal. After all there are laws which say businesses must take reasonable precautions to protect our info from hackers. Using windows or apple computers isn't protecting our data. I know of many businesses including banks which are surfing the web with the same computers they use to store sensitive customer data and accounts. That is not taking reasonable precautions. That is sheer stupidity and asking to be hacked. If systems with fake security weren't available people wouldn't use them. They should be removed from the market.
Because it doesn't e2e encrypt all chats by default I guess. On a side note, he recommends Protonmail, which was banned in Russia because it was hard to track the users. Something similar happened to Telegram. Russia tried to ban it because the creators of telegram rejected to give the government the personal data of users and access to their messages. Though it is implied that Telegram staff can access the messages except secret chats
One thing you missed in this comparison is that, A messenger app is not you use individually and that you can choose what you want. No. This choice heavily depends on other people with whom you want to connect to. Yes, Briar is awesome, but it's worthless if i can't connect to my friends and family, which was the intent. If you look at that. Mobile number is although insecure, but is the dominant way people generally connect thru some app. Not all people will search 100s if not 500s of their contact list one by one and add their ids manually. I'm on Briar since 2 years now, but nobody is there. So i had to use telegram and signal.
Nothing so far has impacted privacy/security of users. And there is currently no reason to migrate outside the obvious issues. (Phone number) But things can always change regardless of how recommended a trusted a tool is.
@Techlore, I wanted to ask you a question, will GrapheneOS be available for the FairPhones as well?? & that goes for CalyxOS as well it would be a shame if that DIDN'T happen😢 the phone is Pro Right-To-Repair & /e/-Foundation even sells FairPhones with /e/-OS Pre-installed Maybe even libreboot them😏 FairPhones could be the "ThinkPad" of smartphones
I think is unlikely that Graphene or Calyx will support Fairphones due to stuff related to firmware of the device. but, if something like a coreboot for fairphones start to happen (as you described) and that makes support with Calyx or Graphene possible, I can definitely see it happening, but dunno if it will.
@@techlore Fair enough. I must have missed that poll. In my opinion Jami does not get enough airtime and is better for everyday use than Briar as it has a lot more features. Could you please do a Jami review as I would love to hear your thoughts on it?
What about qTox. There are also things like scuttlebutt / scuttle over tor. (Manyverse is the phone app for scuttle). Scuttlebutt is also interesting as it can be completely off line
Do you use IOS or Android? What do you suggest for privacy? I don't want to lock the phone down completely but would like to encrypt images, messages, emails, etc.
@@BurgerKingHarkinian on 4chan once I read it has all the signs to be a honeypot. they are not Open source (only their website is Open source but who cares about their website) there is no independent code review nor there's any documentation about their security design. and they are in USA, usa government behind closed doors. would put pressure on Wickr to add a backdoor on those messages, and we don't know if that's the case
Są tu dwa komunikatory które są używane w Rosji. Musicie sami poszukać na RUclips z czego na czym korzystają i jak z tego korzystają. Nie można wszystkiego publicznie ujawniać bo to będzie również informacja dla hackerów.
Status im? it's also p2p..ish (does use nodes). It also has its cryptocurrency, what's the problem with those? I don't get it. It seems to be similar to Session.
alternative title: Techlore roasts Telegram and then gives the top 4 Best Messengers for Privacy
He probably roast Telegram users next like me.
@not hing lol on Element/Matrix you can create your own server lol so all your metadata was on your server inshort there's no need to worry about it sir
A "Roast list" would be a great video idea. Top 5: FB Messeger, WhatsApp, Google Messenger, Snapchat, Kik, etc.
Nekogram X is more secure than Telegram
Telegram isnt IM, its social media like Facebook, Discord and VK.
My face when telegram had the most votes: *hide the pain*
Same. I think it might have something to do with the Linux community. It's pre-installed, or easily available (by that, I mean the front page of a Repo Store) on a lot of Distros, I think some make the connection that it's automatically private because of that. That's the only reason I can think of, anyway.
Telegram is currently one of the most popular substitutes for WhatsApp.
@@InventorZahran so what?
WhatsApp is most popular 😀
Telegram is like the Minecraft Phantom of messengers. give people a choice of options and they pick the worst one =D
@@MK-of7qw Phantoms don't add any real value to the game, other than providing material to repair elytras. But at the same time, they greatly diminish the player's freedom by effectively "punishing" them for not sleeping regularly. Phantoms are especially bad on multiplayer servers, where all the players must be sleeping at the same time in order to skip the night.
Glad to see Session get some love, remember finding the project a good while ago & thinking it could easily become a Signal competitor. Can't wait to see the "Ultimate Comparison" video. Any chance of getting more videos like this regarding Browsers, MobileOS, & PC OS? Your videos have been a great help on my personal journey towards privacy
Always have more like it on the back burner!
@@techlore always look forward to your videos
@not hing Source?
In Privacy Session wins. Just no video call because of the system.
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
had to pick my jaw off the ground when he said kik and SC lol.
Yeah I was like - Oh Henry
I was so shocked when he said snapchat. 🙄😂 Oh my god!
Same 😂
Techlore is probably one of the most important channels on youtube right now
Did you say Rob Braxman?
My vote goes to the hated one
But ok
No he did not
yes
Telegram is absolutely beautiful and fast. Its a shame that privacy isn't its main subject.
yes ! but now it doesn't work like it used to
there are some typa bugs
How can you expect privacy in a public channel? + there are secret chats
But, it is miserably useless for offline usage.
@@dyxlexorcist wdym offline usage
No mention of Threema? Come on! By far the best mix of security and usability, hands down!
It was one of the options in the community poll. That said it's a centralised solution that costs money.
@@eldrago19You get what you pay for.
I will try Session. (Signal is my second option if I don't like Session)
Signal is still my favourite
Why ?
Signal: Still a great balance between privacy and user experience.
And, it can be used offline.
Nice to see a sensible response to The Hated One's video on Signal which a lot of people seemed to interpret the wrong way.
I like the hated one but he gets a lot wrong ..the more people talking about privacy the better tho
@@macktheripper7454 He wasn't really wrong about anything in the video, it's more that the problems he raised in it don't actually affect his average viewer. People were freaking out like they needed to delete Signal overnight when a "wait and see" approach makes a lot more sense for the majority of us.
Threema is my major messenger. It's from Switzerland with Switzerland laws and all servers are in Switzerland. It's fully crypted. Check it i use it for more than 6 years...
Briar reminds me of the old days, me and my friend sitting in bed at night chatting locally on our Nintendos without connecting to a central server
I like Threema, works perfekt on my A4 with Calyxos. Jami looks also very cool but not many people use it and I dont know how safe it is.
Y'all are sad about Telegram being so "bad" while it is way more than a messenger. The possibilites and cross platform support is unmatched, there are bots you can program yourself, huge public groups, channels, secret chats, files up to 2 GB can be shared, many privacy features and much more. It has so many use cases! And the monetization is needed, especially with half a billion users. And they want them to make private and not in private chats but only public channels, so the average user won't see them much :)
It's also the most relieably and convienent to use out of all the messengers, tho escpecially signal is also great!
Just my opinion :)
agreed I enjoy Tele for all the options.I just know the nature of the beast.If I need to say something really private I will hop on over to signal.They all have their positions.
Using telegram for more then 5 years, love it.
Same here.
It has the best UI among all the messengers.
@@openalternative Yes and probably most featured pack as well.
Same I have been using Telegram for a long time but not using encryption by default is concerning :(
@sudo nsudo it is. Not by default but on secret chats.
The hated one Ftw
He makes video like anything in this world is entirely against them
He just have the sane feeling that you shouldn't you anything in this world and just stick to the idea that all people and main stream apps are made by terrorists
I wouldn't even have Element/Riot on the list honestly. The included rooms list had openly visible child pornography boards all throughout. This is the default list we are talking about here, no searching required. They should honestly be shut down until they can properly curate the rooms they supply people with. Been a problem for multiple years.
So what do you suggest? Upload filters?
Damn you really must be naive
Session is much better, than it was and it's developing fast.
Briar seems like a dream to me! No annoying voice messages, video calls or anything. Just pure text messaging, I love it.
7:27 why was that so funny to me? :D
Maybe because of the trollface and because I expected him to stay honest. :P
My favs: Telegram for mobile messaging, Softros for local network chats without using the Internet.
You are joking, right?
BRIAR my favorite
Honestly briar is overkill for 99.9% of users
@Unknown Ghost Shadow activists, dissidents, whistleblower? Not only criminals need privacy... Briar is a great tool that can save (innocent) people' s live
@Black Lives Matter all lives matter
@Black Lives Matter I have never been treated differently by any race.
@Unknown Ghost Shadow baby boomer.
@Black Lives Matter Agreed
And also Pink lives matter.
Matrix has Read Receipts that cannot be disabled. Even what you look at is public because of Read Receipts.
Good catch! Which do you recommend?
@@privatename542 maybe some other client instead of element, that lets you opt out of sending read receipts
4:04 Session!
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
People around me are finally moving towards Signal, and now I have a Pixel 4a 5g with CalyxOS, and Signal drains my battery like crazy. Without it, I can go 3-4 days on 1 charge, with it 2 days, max. Super annoying.
I've got most of my friends on signal now, and more keep popping up as 'now on signal' from time to time. So, switching yet again to another app isn't going to happen unless something major goes wrong with it. And it does have a good balance of usability and privacy.
Threema for me. I don't care if I have to pay the equivalent of a Starbucks coffee to use it or that it has a small user base. Important to me is: no telephone number required for registration.
Matrix offers that as well
You gave all your most important credentials and you say nO pHoNE nUmBer... hahahajaha duuude
@@hhhgggds No credentials needed. RTFM
To be clear: I didn't buy the from Threema, but in the App Store. Threema knows nothing about me.
@@slowbluesmaster are you totally dumb or what? When you use your card to pay you give them all your information
@@hhhgggdsВи праві, дані платіжної картки надаються саме Швейцарській компанії Treema, яка несе відповідальність ща Вашу конфіденційність! Так що в цьому поганого, якщо Ви не злочинець, чи не терорист, чи не шпигун? Я наприклад довіряю уряду Швейцарії та підходом там людей до бізнесу! Але якби я був хакером то мабуть вибрав Briar und SimpleX )
I would like to know your take on Jami.... or did I miss something?
Thank you for all the info :-)
1:49 Also ads that coming to Telegram will be only available to large-traffic channels.
Session is based in Australia which has anti encryption laws. Signal uses Amazon web servers. Matrix not true decentralized and is inneficient to run your own server. No xmpp conversations?
signal is open source ands end to end encrypted... (OPEN SOURCE )
I think the list is missing XMPP Conversations? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
- Better federation than Matrix Element
- End-to-end encryption through OMEMO
- Doesn't require a number
I don't use XMPP, though. I just read about it, so I'd really like to hear your thoughts on it before trying!
How does it have better federation than Element, awh Matrix you mean?
Don't know how much I should value this opinion since you can't distinguish Element and Matrix.
OMEMO lacks of cross signing, and doesn't have native group support like MEGOLM does.
@@climatechangedoesntbargain9140 Oh, you'd be right to doubt my opinion. I don't know the technical parts of encrypted messaging. That's why I'm asking for the Techlore team's thoughts.
To my understanding, XMPP is the protocol used in the Conversations (messaging client), while Matrix is the messaging protocol for Element (messaging client). Correct me if I'm wrong.
I draw those points mainly from Rob Braxman Tech. He said that the vast majority of users of the matrix messaging platform are in two servers (matrix.org and element.io servers). So, in practice, the platform is centralized as a duopoly, while XMPP Conversations has (maybe?) hundreds of servers.
As for OMEMO, I really don't know much about that part. I don't know what cross signing is or what native group support is. I'll try reading about those, but I doubt I'll understand it really
@@industriaaltaria1198 regarding Bradman: I saw his video, he says a lot - and I commented on it - see the comments to the pinned comment
@not hing how about not spamming every comment with nonsense statements?
Signal is perfect for chatting and It's the best I've ever used!!! ✨
this channel is underrated
Would like to see a video on Threema, Jami, and Twinme
Just noticed the video, said 'oh Techlore' , this gonna be usefull and unique as usual
No ones talking about xmpp with pgp. I wonder why, cause thats the ultimate privacy method as of now! May be its because its not normal people friendly.
Its not hard to use at all
I just hate that signal tells all your contacts when you get the app and what contacts you know have the app. Completely goes against privacy.
Curious how you guys feel about threema? Specifically vs signal? Was half expecting to see it on the list
Does the lack of end to end encryption really make Telegram less secure or private? Can you please explain why?
I mean, Telegram has done a lot to make their apps usable even when it is censored in that country and all their apps are open source. Signal doesn't have open source clients
I agree, it's usability is amazing
It DOES have end to end encryption for SECRET CHATS.
The thing is that telegram was made with the intention to be cross platform so your messages can be accessible on multiple devices at once. Should every chat be end to end encrypted, they won't be accessible on the desktop or web client. That's the reason secret chats cannot be seen on the web or desktop, only server based chats can.
In reality, ALL chats are encrypted. Normal chats use server to client encryption while secret chats use end to end encryption (for this reason they can only be read on the phones of both the sender and the receiver).
@@jamesentenaro6830 look at Matrix and think about your comment again. Feel embarrassed
@@climatechangedoesntbargain9140 Matrix needs backup to prevent losing data. Then it isn't synchronization.
Not embarrassed at all lmao
Because telegram offers unlimited cloud storage and public channels
In my country it used to pirate movies and web series isp wont block better than torrent :)
Pirate bay < telegram
Let me guess... India?
@@R1ch4rd yaa that's right and ur guess is right .wbu?
Edit . some company give copyright strike to those pirating public channel and telegram used to ban them
@@cheemsdog7757 not to offend, but I assumed you're from India by your writing style and grammar. And also Telegram is popular in India for those reasons you specified.
@@R1ch4rdwell it's nothing to get offended btw accent matters the way of writing. Correct me if i'm wrong, i guess ur from russia ?
Very good work bravo !, I found your channel recently and I really loved your work continue to inform and help people about anonymity.Γreetings from Greece! Peace n stay safe!
What about Jami and Threema? I want to know @techlore review on these apps. I don't care about what people voted for in community poll. And your thoughts on XMPP?
"Just don't say Telegram"
TELEGRAM!
Why?
The Hated One is still good regardless of his signal opinion
He still recommends Signal.
@@openalternative i thought he wanted to redirect his acquaintances to something else. It's still not a bad option to consider
Bit too much fear mongering.
Signal is great, the worst con for me is both phone number requirement aaand not storing messages in an password encrypted database and "forcing" us to use something like molly-im (fork of signal with encrypted storage)
And then Marlinspike's hatred of third party clients and other people using their research. I just wish Wickr would share their source code.
Will molly-im continue to support SMS given signal dropping support?
I love telegram. Thanks for the cool video
So it looks like a choice between Matrix and Briar. Anyone here ever use either?
the problem is that only people we don't know use them..when I install them nobody uses them lol
This is very true.!!!!!!!!!!!
1) THREEMA LOST TO TELEGRAM are you kidding me -- I'm so curious about the Techlore take on Threema
2) Henry's salty face
3) What about Wire?
I’ll say it again . THREAT MODEL. Define yours, and do your research to find and use what gives you peace of mind. This is just a list of 4 (or 6) decent options.
Honesty I can't take Signal seriously after the MobileCoin débâcle
I'm with you. So many important features requested and needed and for an entire year they did none of them but set up a fecking digital coin that has a steaming pile of shenanigans with them. Awesome, Moxie.
Finally the wait is over 😬 🤩
Getting non-techies to use a new messaging service is hard enough which is why Signal should be number 1 since no one is going to get most people to use Briar. Let's be realistic.
I am currently using Wire, also some Telegram. And I am testing Session and Jami.
Jami is not on this list.
Also Jitsi meet will do for an alternative to Zoom.
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
@@belletable147 I suppose no. Unless you got some keyloggers.
@@cyberp0et Ok, thanks a lot for the information.
The gov should be somehow steering us towards these apps and also linux based devices instead of subsidizing spyware.
who do you think is backing and that benefits the most from these big corp spywares?
@@vicstoron The gov of course. But politicians are violating our rights with the spyware they subsidize. They should be making completely open source systems the mandatory standard perhaps by making closed source spyware systems illegal. After all there are laws which say businesses must take reasonable precautions to protect our info from hackers. Using windows or apple computers isn't protecting our data. I know of many businesses including banks which are surfing the web with the same computers they use to store sensitive customer data and accounts. That is not taking reasonable precautions. That is sheer stupidity and asking to be hacked. If systems with fake security weren't available people wouldn't use them. They should be removed from the market.
I don’t get it… Why so much hate for Telegram? Did something happen that I’m not aware?
Because it doesn't e2e encrypt all chats by default I guess.
On a side note, he recommends Protonmail, which was banned in Russia because it was hard to track the users. Something similar happened to Telegram. Russia tried to ban it because the creators of telegram rejected to give the government the personal data of users and access to their messages. Though it is implied that Telegram staff can access the messages except secret chats
Check out "TwinMe" and "Skred" no email or phone # required. P2P
One thing you missed in this comparison is that,
A messenger app is not you use individually and that you can choose what you want. No.
This choice heavily depends on other people with whom you want to connect to.
Yes, Briar is awesome, but it's worthless if i can't connect to my friends and family, which was the intent.
If you look at that. Mobile number is although insecure, but is the dominant way people generally connect thru some app.
Not all people will search 100s if not 500s of their contact list one by one and add their ids manually.
I'm on Briar since 2 years now, but nobody is there.
So i had to use telegram and signal.
What are your thoughts on Dust messenger?
I was waiting for this 🤣🤣 u are awsome
Threema is pretty good
I'd love an actually FOSS version of telegram
can you do some deep diving on the utopia ecosystem, prometheus and butterfly protocol....... much appreciated
So it is okay to keep using Signal right? I don’t have to migrate my entire family to another messaging app yet again after WhatsCrap? Lol
Nothing so far has impacted privacy/security of users. And there is currently no reason to migrate outside the obvious issues. (Phone number) But things can always change regardless of how recommended a trusted a tool is.
WHERE IS THE LINUX VIDEO????????????????
I'm using Signal, Session & Threema
Session is based in Australia part of the five eyes
Yessir. Thank you!
@Techlore,
I wanted to ask you a question, will GrapheneOS be available for the FairPhones as well??
& that goes for CalyxOS as well
it would be a shame if that DIDN'T happen😢
the phone is Pro Right-To-Repair & /e/-Foundation even sells FairPhones with /e/-OS Pre-installed
Maybe even libreboot them😏
FairPhones could be the "ThinkPad" of smartphones
I think is unlikely that Graphene or Calyx will support Fairphones due to stuff related to firmware of the device.
but, if something like a coreboot for fairphones start to happen (as you described) and that makes support with Calyx or Graphene possible, I can definitely see it happening, but dunno if it will.
Jami ?
That's what I prefer especially over Signal telegram and session
If you check the community poll, it was between Jami, Telegram, and Threema.
@@techlore Fair enough. I must have missed that poll. In my opinion Jami does not get enough airtime and is better for everyday use than Briar as it has a lot more features. Could you please do a Jami review as I would love to hear your thoughts on it?
Lol, I have them all, still watching the vid
At least there's Telegram 😌
CupWire is definitely my favourite.
trash
+1 for Session and Element.
Screw Telegram and Signal for still requiring a phone number.
@not hing Proof? Citations?
Does Windows know what I'm doing in the Session messaging application?
I love Briar for my super important messages to the Jackal, but for my friends I use Olvid & Signal 😏
You also read Day of the Jackal? :D
What about qTox. There are also things like scuttlebutt / scuttle over tor. (Manyverse is the phone app for scuttle). Scuttlebutt is also interesting as it can be completely off line
Do you use IOS or Android? What do you suggest for privacy? I don't want to lock the phone down completely but would like to encrypt images, messages, emails, etc.
Thoughts on Wickr?
I would also like to know what are your thoughts about this one
it is a honeypot
@@deus5185 what makes you think it is?
In Germany a lot of drug dealers are using wickr
@@BurgerKingHarkinian on 4chan once I read it has all the signs to be a honeypot. they are not Open source (only their website is Open source but who cares about their website) there is no independent code review nor there's any documentation about their security design.
and they are in USA, usa government behind closed doors. would put pressure on Wickr to add a backdoor on those messages, and we don't know if that's the case
Can you please make a video about Wispr? I can’t find anything online from a secure source
Wire, Jami, Delta Chat... :)
God bless you btw what do you need to study in uni to become a security researcher
Sucks that my friends are too stupid to use Signal. They are still on Facebook messenger and I am not on facebook anymore. 😒
Są tu dwa komunikatory które są używane w Rosji. Musicie sami poszukać na RUclips z czego na czym korzystają i jak z tego korzystają. Nie można wszystkiego publicznie ujawniać bo to będzie również informacja dla hackerów.
there is no Whatsapp in this equation.? I would have expected an explanation why not?
telegram is fair for me 👍🏻
Threema, XMPP and Jami?
@Robes ****** centralized corporate shit
Status im? it's also p2p..ish (does use nodes). It also has its cryptocurrency, what's the problem with those? I don't get it. It seems to be similar to Session.
Threema Is #1
Where did you get that cap from I need a cap but if its from eff it's even better
Donate to them!
@@techlore They only have a Beanie as far as i can see
You didn’t talk about iMessage
I was thinking the same thing… should’ve said, ‘top 5 best messengers for privacy & security for android/pc’!
How to use element, I have installed it and whenever I send anything its showing to the sender and to me also that unable to decrypt keys withheld.
Syphon
Status
conversation for xmpp is really good
I was hoping for it to be atleast in the honorable mentions as its really underrated
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What about “status” (dapp messenger on Ethereum network) - wire and jami?
Signal is what I am trying to use. One of my friends complains that is will not send full Picture quality.
Personally, I've never had an issue with picture quality with Signal. - S
@@techlore Thanks..
Wow. Great please make web 3 based completely encrypted app
What do you think about Rolo? It uses Blackberry's security
Is there a way to get session on iOS without the App Store?
Can you do a video about or give your feedback on Sekur?