Big business wants to keep China at ease and allow us to keep using their cheap exploited labor. Why else would our own politicians keep allowing China to pilfer our tech, brainwash our kids on TikTak, buy US farmlands, and fly spy balloons over our country.
If mass fishing wasn't around...for decades, without doing just that I find it difficult to follow your logic. Have they overfished the Oceans? Yes they have. Is plankton worried about it? Not really. The life of the Ocean is in its Plankton and the ability to keep producing it as it does now.
@@Mari-gn8su So what you're telling me is you don't understand how modern Navies and Shipping Companies work or how almost all Nations are disposing of particular waste and byproducts. The Ocean is and has been the dumping ground and will continue to be. No one enforces global cleanliness and everyone pays someone to get away with it. Mining wouldn't contribute a noticeable percentage increase as the technology to reach those depts and perform will have to be of the highest caliber. They won't be mining the way some people tried to visit the Titanic.
The deep sea bed is pretty void of life. It's almost like a desert. The consequences are negligible compared to the pollution caused by surface mining.
Absolutely wrong. That exact type of thinking of 'can't do anything about it, I'll just live with it' is how you end up with a country like Russia. When society starts thinking like that on a macro level, that is when problems arise. Learned helplessness. There is plenty you can do locally and individually to improve your own life & community. Waiting on the fed or state government to fix your problems is the problem. Bloom where you are planted as they say@@Bl00dMalice
They never mentioned oil or natural gas so why are you referring to the fossil fuel industry. It's minerals that they brought up. 😂 Plus, they look for new mineral and oil deposits every day. They would simply mine the materials and then control the supply by slowly releasing it out to prevent price plummeting. This isn't complicated.😂 You guys think you have some inside scoop, but you don't.
@@wrdsalad Yes, but not a single image of the colorful and thriving deep sea ecosystem was mentioned let alone shown. They want people to think it's just a bunch of lifeless rocks.
If we aren't a signatory to the treaty, then the US companies aren't obligated to recognize the areas the others have set aside. The US military is obligated to protect US ships.
True, but what business wants to risk their international market. Some of those minerals would be sold on the global side and the international market might block that business from doing anything with those countries that are not part of that treaty.
That is true, but then the US would counter-block and the US has a huge market. I think that something should be worked out. When I worked for an offshore oil and gas magazine, I joked about mining the gas hydrates on the ocean floor before they are released into the atmosphere. Of course we wouldn't be allowed to strip mine the ocean's floor. Well, maybe not. @@Adohleas
They literally only sent scooping and suction devices to grab rocks at the bottom of the ocean. This doesn't even involve pollution or disturbances of the ocean ecosystem. What are you talking about?
@@costidisa Ok perhaps that's true. But relative to other mining operations that involve ruining natural landscapes, this isn't very damaging. That's why I referred to the operations in such a way.
That is one of the worst lobbyist I have ever heard in my life. “Lockheed Martin left because of business reasons, not because of the treaty.“ “No, they left, because there was no treaty.“ “Well… That was a business reason.“ Bruh, what? 🤦♂️
The thing was that it was proposed first by the democrats to mine the sea. Then, as you expected, the GOP could not have done, so any thing spoken by-or brought first-by a democrat. Will always result in the gop to say, 'no'.
Democrats support mining the ocean, Manganese nodules which form over millions of years, the least renewable resource. The Heritage foundation, Libertarians unwittingly save the day. All of these bureaucrats can ever talk about is "Billions of dollars", or "Business", or "economic superiority". There's nothing more dystopian than a Lockheed Martin ocean extraction company. Goodness people wake up.
It’s like with Antarctica, the United States doesn’t make any territorial claims to Antarctica nor does it recognizes any other countries’ claims, even though it has the biggest presence there. The same goes for the seabed.
not much difference to China saying they "own" the South China Sea.... what are you going to do about it? Despite international rules, they couldn't care. "it's ours"
@@rangerrick2246A big alliance of islands in the South China Sea which the U.S. stands with would beg to differ, and if China actually tried to restrict movement in the sea all hell would break loose.
@@rangerrick2246interesting fact, US does not sign the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, But EU, Russia, China and most of countries in the world all signed it.
@@youngc0930 Things came to head in July 1977, with the release of the UNCLOS III "Informal Composite Negotiating Text" for the LOSC. This text included a "Part XI" to regulate the deep seabed. Under this text, the deep seabed (defined as "the Area") was declared to the "common heritage of mankind." It would be subject to regulation by a UN body, the International Seabed Authority, which would license commercial exploitation and collect royalties from operators. So far, this was broadly consistent with the U.S. policy. But, as proposed, this "Authority" also would operate its own company, identified as the "Enterprise," to conduct deep seabed mining, alongside commercial operators. "Enterprise" profits then would be distributed among member states on the basis of "equitable sharing," with particular regard for the interests of developing and landlocked states. Member states would be required to transfer their technology to this "Enterprise" and to "developing countries" to allow them to engage in seabed mining alongside established operators. The then chief negotiator for the United States at UNCLOS III, U.S. Ambassador Elliot Richardson (a former U.S. Attorney-General) declared these features "fundamentally unacceptable," but remained at the UNCLOS III bargaining table, in the hopes of reaching better terms.
So correct me if I'm wrong here: Steven Groves from 10:58 ~ 11:29 explains that signing into the treaty is meaningless because, in his words: "It's China, who is a party to the treaty, who doesn't obey the rules of the road. They're getting into a near collision with the US vessels in the South China Sea. The United States respects and adheres to the international law. It is the Chinese who are the scofflaws here, and the idea that the US joining the treaty would somehow change that Chinese Behavior has no basis in reality."So what he's saying is that because one guy doesn't follow the rules, it's best not to play the game in our backyard while that guy gets all the gold they found digging in the backyard, and we don't get a penny because we didn't participate? What kind of logic is that? If we were a part of that treaty, we would obviously have some kind of friction with other players in the backyard. At least, the difference is that we get something from participating. This mining operation has benefits to the entire US economy as a whole since the materials there is used to run all of our technology in the US. Get this thought inside your head: A GOLD MINE IS BEING DUG IN OUR BACKYARD. OTHER COUNTRIES ARE BENEFITING, AND WE DON'T SEE A PENNY ENTERING OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY.
You are thinking exactly how the media wants you to think. We should not be mining the sea floor period. By all means, vote for the destruction of the sea floor ecology that we have not invested the same amount of money, material, and human power into as we have outer space.
@@tekboi1984 real progress will only occur when we decide to evolve beyond killing eachother. But until that time you are right,i guess. Diplomacy and treaties are the first stepping stones that will make good things possible.People like Trump will obstruct and delay that,for sure. Which is a terrible waste of opportunity and time.
@@dlewis8405 But how is it "renewable" or "carbon free" if you need to mine the deep ocean floor for minerals? Minerals are not renewable and extracting them is far from a carbon free process. Not to mention the other environmental damages mining causes for sea life etc.
United States owns all the worlds oceans, why would they ratify a treaty that puts them on the same level as everyone else? Once the Chinese fill up their ship with ore we can just take if we want. we can let them have it. we can do what ever we want
60 minutes is so biased in this report it makes me question the credibility of their story. Some scientist have long explained that deep sea mining was not economically feasible. Whether it s true or not, 60 minutes should have gone deeper on that issue rather than brushing it off
I don't get it. If the treaty is not ratified, American companies can exploit the seabed legally since no law prevents them from it. If it is ratified they can still exploit it legally if only they go through some pointless paperwork with the UN. Either way i don't see what's stopping them from mining if they think there is money to be made.
@@stvdmc2011 What rule of law? Its not a "rule of law" if you choose whether or not to adhere to it. Besides, the point is, even with "the rule of law" Nothing prevents companies from mining the ocean floor, so why don't they?
So what is the cost of recovering these rocks from the bottom of the ocean? It is competitive with current mining? If it costs 10X as much, I can see why no one is jumping at the bit to harvest it.
A Canadian mining company demolished the town my dad was born in zacatecas mexico they relocated everyone by giving them a small check and telling them they would be able to go back so they left they’re homes thinking they would be able to come back but the Canadians took everything down and it’s now a mine.
But, what about all the rare earths in Australia ?? Isn't that tons easier to mine. And there's a huge deposit of lithium in southern california that's being mined right now !
the open ocean should be open to any that want to mine in it outside of national borders... if you're in international waters you should be free to mine whatever you want!
While I would agree, a business isn't going to risk their international market if their home country didn't join an agreement that has been signed on by a large number of nations. Its basically financial suicide.
Then it will become the biggest garbage dump in no time,for those who dont care about anything.Great idea..no regulation always ends well,..doesnt it,Einstein??
Mining the ocean floor has too many risks. On-shore mining has the advantage of being able to monitor and mitigate contaminates that may be produced during mining operations. Mining underwater - any spills will just be washed away with the currents. Such is the case today with off-shore oil/gas operations... many well heads are leaking gas & oil direct into the ocean. Out of sight... out of mind? I say this as someone who has been involved in the mining industry for 25+ years. I have travelled the world and have seen "good" mining and "bad" mining practices - and everything in between. Underwater mining would be far too easy for less reputable companies and countries to engage in mining practices that have the potential to dramatically damage the environmental balance in our oceans. This will not end well.
Well said. I too have been involved in mining for 27 years from the regulatory side. DSM as it stands today is all about greed! As you said, this will not end well.
bruh this still looks so so so bad for the ocean in every way there are no worthy upsides of even doing this or allowing this its absolutely un expectable and needs to be stopped
@@AaronRClarkI sure don’t want to ruin the oceans, at the same time we are running out of minerals in the US to manufacture many products, we love to use as the IS runs on capitalism and sales, sales, sales.
@@jamesharrison2374we are not running out of resources. We are being blocked from accessing them. Northern Minnesota has a huge copper and nickel potential and it gets shut down by the dems
Who can hear the ecology? All I hear is the cash register going cha-ching. All i can see is the women im bout slay, and future Exwives. Some call me a dreamer, but Im not the only one. One Love. I can dry your tears with these 100s. Do it, watch. It does make you feel better.
as you can see from the footage, there is nothing on the bottom but rocks. What are we killing? I think this is just more ecological panic to keep countries out. The problem is, these rare earth materials are essential to our way of life. Don't ignore its uses
What a badly researched and reported piece. China is NOT leading the negotiations - the costs of DSM are astronomical compared to land mining; and market prices for all these minerals have dropped up to 30% in the last 2-3 years. A manganese nodule contains mms of nickel on EACH one (taking 5m years to accrete) vs a slice 15' wide in a terrestrial mine! How many nodules need to be gathered in the most hostile environment on the planet, to match one slice on land? The deep seabed is teeming with undiscovered biodiversity and will NOT come back at any timescale in our life time or that of our great great great grandchildren. This is literally destroying Pandora for Unobtanium (when in this case it CAN be obtained and reused on land).
china's flexing of muscle, building military power and not playing by the rules is the same way other countries viewed America in the past but as a student of history this isn't surprising I just listen to hear the reactions and analyze the times were living in
I can't wait to have that discussion about what the maritime laws actually say... the USA has been going around all these years saying freedom of navigation means they can sail their warships anywhere - much of world disagrees
I think that it's more likely that we'll have colony's on the moon and mars in a generation. As if moving silt around on the bottom of the ocean is really going to do that much and the ocean is HUUUUGE. Sorry I think you're just feeling a bit special.
It's so especially because it's so close... You would think you'd like to keep an eye on all those countries trying to accumulate precious metals for the future.....
The heritage foundation is ridiculous. So complain about China not following the law by .. not following the law? And put National security at risk. Should be ashamed
We are after the gold rush now. Ive spent 27 years permitting mining operation on Federal lands. Yes, there are minerals that are difficult for the USA to obtain in the USA, but like oil there are no shortages of minerals. There are also no shortcuts to obtaining minerals these days strategic or not. If demand is there someone will figure a way to get at it. Days of fast, easy and cheap minerals are over. To think one can go out and dredge up valuable ore with minimal efforts are foolish at best. Perhaps its time for the USA to rethink its vision for strategic minerals production. I would hope it will depend less on getting it from 3rd world countries fast cheap and easy.
The difference between a Chinese warship and an American warship is vast. 66 of ours can out-manouver and out-weapon two hundred Chinese vessels. Better air support, far better stealth, better speed, and smarter munitions. Otherwise, of course, we'd feel the need to build more.
The ocean is not for sale. The United Nations has nothing to say about it. Donald Trump has nothing to say about it. If your actor president wants a piece of the ocean, he has to speak with me high on the ocean. 😁
So let the un tell us what to do no thanks china litrerly just starting mining an went it's mine now. They haven't signed anything they just did it. America should do the same thing
I couldn't care less about environmental impact. This is way too important of an opportunity to pass up, especially if our geopolitical rivals are using it to take advantage of us.
We're too busy fighting each other, we're losing our grip in the world stage.
Specifically one group seems very unwilling to govern
No. People are being purchased in the parties to fight for the interests of other countries.
Big business wants to keep China at ease and allow us to keep using their cheap exploited labor.
Why else would our own politicians keep allowing China to pilfer our tech, brainwash our kids on TikTak, buy US farmlands, and fly spy balloons over our country.
Agree, the Republican Senators don't want it. They are paid by people who don't want it. DISGUSTING!
Yes they are called repliCONS!
Why are you selling this as a good thing? It will probably destroy marine life snd the ocean
If mass fishing wasn't around...for decades, without doing just that I find it difficult to follow your logic. Have they overfished the Oceans? Yes they have. Is plankton worried about it? Not really. The life of the Ocean is in its Plankton and the ability to keep producing it as it does now.
one would hope there would be regulations in place, but I doubt they will be that effective
@@Mari-gn8su So what you're telling me is you don't understand how modern Navies and Shipping Companies work or how almost all Nations are disposing of particular waste and byproducts. The Ocean is and has been the dumping ground and will continue to be. No one enforces global cleanliness and everyone pays someone to get away with it. Mining wouldn't contribute a noticeable percentage increase as the technology to reach those depts and perform will have to be of the highest caliber. They won't be mining the way some people tried to visit the Titanic.
The deep sea bed is pretty void of life. It's almost like a desert. The consequences are negligible compared to the pollution caused by surface mining.
Stop that! You don't own the seabed.
This will end badly
Lol, China will sign onto any treaty, doesn't mean they abide by it.
How else would USA keep you distracted
Just like the US. Nothing different
I am from china and I confirm this message
I remember America, I really loved her.
Not me. America's been going downhill ever since I was born.
@@selohcinsounds like you might be the problem then with thinking like that
@@Allaiya.Not really. Common person can see it but can't do anything about it.
I feel sorry for our kids. We're slowly handing their well being away into foreign hands.
Absolutely wrong. That exact type of thinking of 'can't do anything about it, I'll just live with it' is how you end up with a country like Russia. When society starts thinking like that on a macro level, that is when problems arise. Learned helplessness.
There is plenty you can do locally and individually to improve your own life & community. Waiting on the fed or state government to fix your problems is the problem. Bloom where you are planted as they say@@Bl00dMalice
This was the Fossil Fuel Industry owned politicians voting no. They do not want the prices for minerals used in renewable energy to drop.
Exactly. Land based miners do not want this and they are the interested party with the deepest pockets right now unfortunately
Bingo!
That makes the most sense for sure
They never mentioned oil or natural gas so why are you referring to the fossil fuel industry. It's minerals that they brought up. 😂 Plus, they look for new mineral and oil deposits every day. They would simply mine the materials and then control the supply by slowly releasing it out to prevent price plummeting. This isn't complicated.😂 You guys think you have some inside scoop, but you don't.
Lithium will be mined underwater. for demsZZZZzs little elec cars
*MADE SURE NOT TO SHOW A SINGLE VIDEO OF SEA FLOOR ECOSYSTEMS IN THIS REPORT, EH?* If people knew what was being destroyed they would be outragrd.
This topic was mentioned at 5:55. Without a licence, "[The US] won't have a say in environmental rules for mining the deep."
@@wrdsalad Yes, but not a single image of the colorful and thriving deep sea ecosystem was mentioned let alone shown. They want people to think it's just a bunch of lifeless rocks.
5:59 shows an anemone get plowed over
No one gets outraged at China for destroying the environment and even if we did the CCP wouldn't care what we think.
If we aren't a signatory to the treaty, then the US companies aren't obligated to recognize the areas the others have set aside. The US military is obligated to protect US ships.
True, but what business wants to risk their international market. Some of those minerals would be sold on the global side and the international market might block that business from doing anything with those countries that are not part of that treaty.
That is true, but then the US would counter-block and the US has a huge market. I think that something should be worked out. When I worked for an offshore oil and gas magazine, I joked about mining the gas hydrates on the ocean floor before they are released into the atmosphere. Of course we wouldn't be allowed to strip mine the ocean's floor. Well, maybe not. @@Adohleas
Yep like what china does
I hate that sea bed mining will only destroy the sea and life in it.
thats all it will do? are you sure?
Now that greed has destroyed so much of the earth, time for big powers to ruin our waters and oceans 🤦
They literally only sent scooping and suction devices to grab rocks at the bottom of the ocean. This doesn't even involve pollution or disturbances of the ocean ecosystem. What are you talking about?
@@ironeagle4274 can you think ahead? At all? Look at the title of the video.
@@ironeagle4274 mining definitely involves pollution
Hate to breaks it to you but everything you use requires these resources. And we need more than we have available on land.
@@costidisa Ok perhaps that's true. But relative to other mining operations that involve ruining natural landscapes, this isn't very damaging. That's why I referred to the operations in such a way.
Humans destroyed the land where they mine. Now they are going to do the same on the sea floor🤦🏻
It's waaay worse than that. Do some research on deep sea mining. I hope you didn't like doing things like swimming in the ocean or eating fish.
That is one of the worst lobbyist I have ever heard in my life.
“Lockheed Martin left because of business reasons, not because of the treaty.“
“No, they left, because there was no treaty.“
“Well… That was a business reason.“
Bruh, what? 🤦♂️
Now you know which Senators has their hands in Chinese pockets.
Oh yeah, and China is such a environmental conscious country😂😂😂😂
They passed us up in clean energy a long time ago!
They're trying harder than we are, that's for sure.
@@Pimpin-rm1ju you believe that lmao
@@LM2.S54you believe nonsense on China?
just about as much as the US?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Republican party does not want to mine..? Where am I
The thing was that it was proposed first by the democrats to mine the sea. Then, as you expected, the GOP could not have done, so any thing spoken by-or brought first-by a democrat. Will always result in the gop to say, 'no'.
It’s something democrats are fine with, so R obviously are against it for that reason
Paid off by China's lobbyists!
Imagine mining an area you've only discovered 10%. Plastic already in our waters and they wanna mine?!?! Craziness.
Democrats support mining the ocean, Manganese nodules which form over millions of years, the least renewable resource.
The Heritage foundation, Libertarians unwittingly save the day. All of these bureaucrats can ever talk about is "Billions of dollars", or "Business", or "economic superiority".
There's nothing more dystopian than a Lockheed Martin ocean extraction company. Goodness people wake up.
It’s like with Antarctica, the United States doesn’t make any territorial claims to Antarctica nor does it recognizes any other countries’ claims, even though it has the biggest presence there. The same goes for the seabed.
Yep, now watch China build an "artificial island" just SE of Hawaii, on their mining patch one day.
not much difference to China saying they "own" the South China Sea.... what are you going to do about it? Despite international rules, they couldn't care. "it's ours"
@@rangerrick2246A big alliance of islands in the South China Sea which the U.S. stands with would beg to differ, and if China actually tried to restrict movement in the sea all hell would break loose.
@@rangerrick2246interesting fact, US does not sign the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, But EU, Russia, China and most of countries in the world all signed it.
@@youngc0930 Things came to head in July 1977, with the release of the UNCLOS III "Informal Composite Negotiating Text" for the LOSC. This text included a "Part XI" to regulate the deep seabed. Under this text, the deep seabed (defined as "the Area") was declared to the "common heritage of mankind." It would be subject to regulation by a UN body, the International Seabed Authority, which would license commercial exploitation and collect royalties from operators. So far, this was broadly consistent with the U.S. policy. But, as proposed, this "Authority" also would operate its own company, identified as the "Enterprise," to conduct deep seabed mining, alongside commercial operators. "Enterprise" profits then would be distributed among member states on the basis of "equitable sharing," with particular regard for the interests of developing and landlocked states. Member states would be required to transfer their technology to this "Enterprise" and to "developing countries" to allow them to engage in seabed mining alongside established operators.
The then chief negotiator for the United States at UNCLOS III, U.S. Ambassador Elliot Richardson (a former U.S. Attorney-General) declared these features "fundamentally unacceptable," but remained at the UNCLOS III bargaining table, in the hopes of reaching better terms.
So correct me if I'm wrong here: Steven Groves from 10:58 ~ 11:29 explains that signing into the treaty is meaningless because, in his words: "It's China, who is a party to the treaty, who doesn't obey the rules of the road. They're getting into a near collision with the US vessels in the South China Sea. The United States respects and adheres to the international law. It is the Chinese who are the scofflaws here, and the idea that the US joining the treaty would somehow change that Chinese Behavior has no basis in reality."So what he's saying is that because one guy doesn't follow the rules, it's best not to play the game in our backyard while that guy gets all the gold they found digging in the backyard, and we don't get a penny because we didn't participate? What kind of logic is that? If we were a part of that treaty, we would obviously have some kind of friction with other players in the backyard. At least, the difference is that we get something from participating. This mining operation has benefits to the entire US economy as a whole since the materials there is used to run all of our technology in the US. Get this thought inside your head: A GOLD MINE IS BEING DUG IN OUR BACKYARD. OTHER COUNTRIES ARE BENEFITING, AND WE DON'T SEE A PENNY ENTERING OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY.
Lobbying millions of dollars to government individuals that vote against it.
You are thinking exactly how the media wants you to think.
We should not be mining the sea floor period. By all means, vote for the destruction of the sea floor ecology that we have not invested the same amount of money, material, and human power into as we have outer space.
The US doesn't need a treaty to participate if we choose to
You guys now know how it feels lol
@@mhxxd4actually you do, like everyone else, you are not special
If "green energy" requires mining the ocean.... how exactly is it green?
Carbon free energy. Or renewable. Choose a description that you like. Not fossil fuels.
It's not just green energy. Are you dense? These are materials that we need to build advanced tech for our military.
This is far more than just green energy. But you seem to be oblivious to that fact.
@@tekboi1984 real progress will only occur when we decide to evolve beyond killing eachother. But until that time you are right,i guess. Diplomacy and treaties are the first stepping stones that will make good things possible.People like Trump will obstruct and delay that,for sure. Which is a terrible waste of opportunity and time.
@@dlewis8405 But how is it "renewable" or "carbon free" if you need to mine the deep ocean floor for minerals? Minerals are not renewable and extracting them is far from a carbon free process. Not to mention the other environmental damages mining causes for sea life etc.
The problem is the enormous cost to obtain it... It'll take a great deal of innovation and inventions to refine and perfect the process
Could of shortened it to " Us fails" so it unifies the failures under the same umbrella to save time
>could of
Thats the only thing you could find wrong in that statement?
@@kaiohshin2322
United States owns all the worlds oceans, why would they ratify a treaty that puts them on the same level as everyone else? Once the Chinese fill up their ship with ore we can just take if we want. we can let them have it. we can do what ever we want
US can just start mining as it is in international territory, let see which naval power has the 0_0 to stop or attack mining.
I wonder how much video will be released and available, with all the seabed mining coming.
60 minutes is so biased in this report it makes me question the credibility of their story. Some scientist have long explained that deep sea mining was not economically feasible. Whether it s true or not, 60 minutes should have gone deeper on that issue rather than brushing it off
Did those same “scientist” say that global warming doesn’t exist?? 😂
Look up Deep Sea Mining of Nodules. It is sickening. How "green" is killing the ocean floor?
Nobody does it like 60 minutes
Originally aired date would be helpful
Today
I don't get it. If the treaty is not ratified, American companies can exploit the seabed legally since no law prevents them from it. If it is ratified they can still exploit it legally if only they go through some pointless paperwork with the UN. Either way i don't see what's stopping them from mining if they think there is money to be made.
Guess you don't want to follow any rule or law.
@@stvdmc2011 What rule of law? Its not a "rule of law" if you choose whether or not to adhere to it. Besides, the point is, even with "the rule of law" Nothing prevents companies from mining the ocean floor, so why don't they?
There is little chance that ANY treaty granting the UN more power will pass the Senate.
There is a Norwegian company that is heavily invested in mining the Clariton Clipper zone. That company will end up having the US market to itself.
So what is the cost of recovering these rocks from the bottom of the ocean? It is competitive with current mining? If it costs 10X as much, I can see why no one is jumping at the bit to harvest it.
no controls no EPA no waste to deal with no hole to fill off shore so no laws apply
@@ResortDog😄
A Canadian mining company demolished the town my dad was born in zacatecas mexico they relocated everyone by giving them a small check and telling them they would be able to go back so they left they’re homes thinking they would be able to come back but the Canadians took everything down and it’s now a mine.
Welcome to Mexico
In 1974 i was working for a mining company in New York as a laboratory analyst and was given a nodule to analyze for manganese. 33%
Yes pure gravy and profit. Just a long way down to get it and process it.
How about the environmental impact
Always something!!!
Of course it's republicans !
Huh? I don't get it. Are all the comments here against deep sea mining REPUBLICANS?
5:59 this image says a thousand words
These people would sell their sould for the right number of zeroes
Wake up US government!!!
But, what about all the rare earths in Australia ?? Isn't that tons easier to mine. And there's a huge deposit of lithium in southern california that's being mined right now !
“Deep sea mining isn’t feasible” is outrageous to hear and idiotic.
It’s already being done
The US has been failing a lot lately 🤣🤣🤣
Alas
the open ocean should be open to any that want to mine in it outside of national borders... if you're in international waters you should be free to mine whatever you want!
While I would agree, a business isn't going to risk their international market if their home country didn't join an agreement that has been signed on by a large number of nations. Its basically financial suicide.
Then it will become the biggest garbage dump in no time,for those who dont care about anything.Great idea..no regulation always ends well,..doesnt it,Einstein??
Adios UN
Mining the ocean floor has too many risks. On-shore mining has the advantage of being able to monitor and mitigate contaminates that may be produced during mining operations. Mining underwater - any spills will just be washed away with the currents. Such is the case today with off-shore oil/gas operations... many well heads are leaking gas & oil direct into the ocean. Out of sight... out of mind?
I say this as someone who has been involved in the mining industry for 25+ years. I have travelled the world and have seen "good" mining and "bad" mining practices - and everything in between. Underwater mining would be far too easy for less reputable companies and countries to engage in mining practices that have the potential to dramatically damage the environmental balance in our oceans. This will not end well.
Well said. I too have been involved in mining for 27 years from the regulatory side. DSM as it stands today is all about greed! As you said, this will not end well.
bruh this still looks so so so bad for the ocean in every way there are no worthy upsides of even doing this or allowing this its absolutely un expectable and needs to be stopped
Well if we don’t pass a treaty. That just means we don’t have to see those resources as “theirs”
bingo
So short sighted by republicans.
you want us to ruin oceans? cool
@@AaronRClarkI sure don’t want to ruin the oceans, at the same time we are running out of minerals in the US to manufacture many products, we love to use as the IS runs on capitalism and sales, sales, sales.
@@AaronRClarkYou want China to ruin the ocean and reap the benefits?
@@jamesharrison2374we are not running out of resources. We are being blocked from accessing them. Northern Minnesota has a huge copper and nickel potential and it gets shut down by the dems
What’s interesting is how close Chinas mining operations are to the Americas
THIS MUST BE STOPPED.
what nobody talks about is the damage the do to the ecology of the bottom of the ocean a waste left behind.
Exactly…. They’re just mowing it down….
Who can hear the ecology? All I hear is the cash register going cha-ching. All i can see is the women im bout slay, and future Exwives. Some call me a dreamer, but Im not the only one. One Love. I can dry your tears with these 100s. Do it, watch. It does make you feel better.
as you can see from the footage, there is nothing on the bottom but rocks. What are we killing? I think this is just more ecological panic to keep countries out. The problem is, these rare earth materials are essential to our way of life. Don't ignore its uses
Because nobody cares!!! Money rules
@@rangerrick2246 5:59 an anemone gets plowed over lol
What a badly researched and reported piece. China is NOT leading the negotiations - the costs of DSM are astronomical compared to land mining; and market prices for all these minerals have dropped up to 30% in the last 2-3 years. A manganese nodule contains mms of nickel on EACH one (taking 5m years to accrete) vs a slice 15' wide in a terrestrial mine! How many nodules need to be gathered in the most hostile environment on the planet, to match one slice on land? The deep seabed is teeming with undiscovered biodiversity and will NOT come back at any timescale in our life time or that of our great great great grandchildren. This is literally destroying Pandora for Unobtanium (when in this case it CAN be obtained and reused on land).
Kind of odd that this would get posted without a date originally aired note the same day as TMC has an earnings call.
TMC is a Canadian company. I’m sure they’ll (Canada) have signed the treaty to get access to their claims. USA is simply a buyer at this point.
china's flexing of muscle, building military power and not playing by the rules is the same way other countries viewed America in the past but as a student of history this isn't surprising I just listen to hear the reactions and analyze the times were living in
WTF !
I can't wait to have that discussion about what the maritime laws actually say... the USA has been going around all these years saying freedom of navigation means they can sail their warships anywhere - much of world disagrees
Chinas leader once said that America has the greatest nation that money can buy.
Reminds me of what Earth looked like after the Borg went back in time to prevent humanity's evolution, leaving behind a barren planet with no seas!
Who , WHO IN THE HELL PUT THE UNITED NATIONS IN CHARE IN CHARGE OF THE SEA BED ,,, world wide ?????!!
Wow I had no idea very informative!
We know how this turns out.
Soon this planet will be dead.
Major ecological disaster ahead.
I'm glad I don't have kids. There's exactly zero chance the planet will survive another generation thanks to our own greed and stupidity.
I'm glad you think that way. Less competition for MY future kids. 😅
Life is precious step out of your world of USA and see how people live around the world, keep your pessimism to yourself.
Having kids is the only reason for living. Life produces life.
Look outside your phone and the world’s not so bad.
I think that it's more likely that we'll have colony's on the moon and mars in a generation. As if moving silt around on the bottom of the ocean is really going to do that much and the ocean is HUUUUGE. Sorry I think you're just feeling a bit special.
Humanity is taking a nosedive not the planet.. the planet will be just fine no matter what humans do to it.
"group of repiblican senators" who didnt get their personal piece of the pie, "undermining" american interest.
Or is it that the electric car world didn't get their "piece of the pie:?
@@waltertodd4479 we all know the truth
It's so especially because it's so close... You would think you'd like to keep an eye on all those countries trying to accumulate precious metals for the future.....
The heritage foundation is ridiculous. So complain about China not following the law by .. not following the law? And put National security at risk. Should be ashamed
So we’re just sending underwater tank to bulldoze everything on the ocean floor….. greaaaaaaat
Its simple, sign on to the treaty unless you want conflict.
Log jams are good if someone else is selling your logs.
Why wouldn't the US just start doing it anyway? The US once passed a law saying if any US citizen claims an "unmapped" island the US owns it
what about that magnetic field that stops the sun's rays from killing all of us.
Why would they ? It's better to pay triple for it from China
Bad idea to destroy ocean floor. What are those things anyway, are they responsible making oxygen?
Lets just throw away whats left of the planet...
again...blame CN for their own incompetence... a bit sick of this
We shouldn't be able to mine the bottom of the ocean... This is going to devastate our oceans... Have you ever seen a strip mine?
You don’t know what you are talking about
We are after the gold rush now. Ive spent 27 years permitting mining operation on Federal lands. Yes, there are minerals that are difficult for the USA to obtain in the USA, but like oil there are no shortages of minerals. There are also no shortcuts to obtaining minerals these days strategic or not. If demand is there someone will figure a way to get at it. Days of fast, easy and cheap minerals are over. To think one can go out and dredge up valuable ore with minimal efforts are foolish at best. Perhaps its time for the USA to rethink its vision for strategic minerals production. I would hope it will depend less on getting it from 3rd world countries fast cheap and easy.
Thanks MAGA. Your forward thinking is making America last in precious metals.
Wah, wah, wah
So new to me.
This is ridiculous America, wake up
We don't need the UN's permission to do anything. Let's see them stop us.😂😂
Great content
Very much political fodder from what I've learned and listened to in TMC annual end of year report.
Hold on I thought the democrats supported saving the planet but now they are blaming the Republicans because they don't want to destroy the ocean?
Pure chaos, isn't it?
I can only wait to see what happens when we explore the universe
We will mine it for resources until it’s destroyed
@@AnitaLau-s5z you know the universe is infinite
@@AnitaLau-s5z you do realise the universe is infinite in science fiction there is no race that has conquered the entire universe so neither will we
It's always republicans.
The difference between a Chinese warship and an American warship is vast. 66 of ours can out-manouver and out-weapon two hundred Chinese vessels. Better air support, far better stealth, better speed, and smarter munitions. Otherwise, of course, we'd feel the need to build more.
CCP wolf warrior comment
Stop and ask yourself, SHOULD we really be focusing our time and energy on a project like that and how could we do it ‘right’.
USA in dysfunctional decline.
No one wants to be fooled again and again. That would be truly stupid.
Who defends the 'Seabed Authority,' China?
Yes
Rather irrelevant then. No wonder the US didn't bother signing. The US is the UN. The UN is funded by the US.@@davinxi5926
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It’s always amazing what a bureaucrats can do.
The ocean is not for sale. The United Nations has nothing to say about it. Donald Trump has nothing to say about it. If your actor president wants a piece of the ocean, he has to speak with me high on the ocean. 😁
We should be doubling down on Sea Mining!
Environmental consequences will be astronomical. Don't think we realize the impact this could have
America 1st, and America always 🇺🇸
That attitude will surely make you popular all over the world.And isnt ignorant.At all.😁👍
I honestly can’t watch anymore of this. It’s making me sick
Great
This heritage foundation will be the end of the USA opportunity
Leave it up to the Republicans to make this huge mistake!
So let the un tell us what to do no thanks china litrerly just starting mining an went it's mine now. They haven't signed anything they just did it. America should do the same thing
If we are not careful we will all be eating a lot of rice.
*Why the hell do we need a permit from the UN?*
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I couldn't care less about environmental impact. This is way too important of an opportunity to pass up, especially if our geopolitical rivals are using it to take advantage of us.
Haha😮