Just rebuilt two of these type of boxes. Much easier to simply remove the complete sector shaft and cover, replace the seals and snap ring, clean the rust from the shaft and re install. Those boxes have not changed much at all. Mine are both roughly 50 years old. Saginaw 800 style box.
I know this video is a couple of years old, I just wanted to say thank you! Thanks to your video I was able to find the part numbers I needed, even if I had to pause at the right time to get them!
After removing your snap-ring, from the sector shaft if your lines are hooked up, or can be hooked up you can blow out your old seal with hydraulic pressure just by bumping the engine over. Then you are not risking damaging your shaft or housing. simple cheat if you don't want to remove the shaft from the box,the way that it should be done.
Very simple and to the point explanation. My wifes steering box is leaking in the exact same place but original box. I screen captured those part numbers and am heading to chevy. Hopefully the dealership's price will be reasonable. Thanks.
Your welcome Mike! The prices were not bad for what I got. The seals and snap rings were much better quality then I've gotten in the past from the auto parts stores. I'm finding more and more parts for better prices than the aftermarket. Its always worth the phone call to know for sure!
I also have a leak, very little leak, but I just noticed that the pitman arm is not fully seated as well the nut is barely holding on to the gearbox with the pitman arm with it. Would you suggest to purchase the kit or but a new gearbox with pitman arm and new washer and nut ?
Thanks for showing your finds. I have a hummer h2 in the UK so cant find anything about 2008 models. My steering box is just starting to leak can you tell me.if the seals are the same on newer models.as i can find older kits but not 08. Thanks for your time.
The outer seal was mounted correct. it´s just a dustseal, and by that it is mounted so the dust is kept out. My S10 -96 had a factory steeringbox and had the outer seal mounted as yours, which is the correct way.
Patrick Wetterskog i am confused as well. Conventionally the lip is inside to keep oil out. However my daihatsu service manual says manufacturer label on seal should face the inside.
Watch the few of these disassemblies one upper seal held's fluid in while the lower seal holds contaminants and liquid out so from what I've seen it is correct to have the seals opposing each other and not both facing inward
Is this different than the ones on a 2004 Silverado 2500hd? Mine seems to have a washer that’s pressed in or part of the housing like would have to pull the whole shaft out the back.
All you need to do is remove the 4 bolts on top of the box and pull the shaft out. Then the seals come out very easy. Just make sure you keep everything straight when you put it back together. I agree that the lower seal is backwards. I put mine back in the other way.
Great video! Perfect removal, couldn't bring myself to grind down a punch, instead I drilled 5/64" holes with the gear still in the vehicle and used #8 panhead screws, worked like a champ!!
Hey John, great vid! Question : rebuilidng the entire front end of amy rebuilder 2011 chevy silverado. Do you by chance have/or remember the GM rebuild part # plus the dust boot? I think i can see enough of the part number on the rebuild kit but not the dust boot. Thanks again for good vid!
So did you have a seal driver that was deep enough to seat the new seal over the shaft or did you have to make one? Im asking because i always just grab a socket and i know i probably wont have one that size.
Nurburg Flip I have several sizes of round pipe I use. you can go to home depot and buy some 6 inch pieces of different pcv pipe and that should work good. Take the seal with you so the outside isn't to big
I just got to the snap ring and both ears busted off at the top. Cant get under or behind it. Not sure what to do. Small drill hole at the wide part and attempt to break it? Heat?
John, what is the software program called that you can print from and pull up auto diagrams and schematics? Is it specific for each manufacturer of automobile? mike
Hi Mike , I mostly use Identifix. You can also find good images on Bing. Some online parts catalogs will also have some pretty detailed diagrams how things go together.
That part you show I have the same problem with every gearbox from Advance Auto Part. As soon as I put on and fill with oil it starts leaking from that area. Replaced 3 times. Will never buy from them again. I will just do a rebuild next time myself on the the gearbox.
Hi Dennis! I dont think the pick tool is strong enough to pull the seal out. You would have to slide it along the shaft and then turn it into the seal part. I personally do not like to have anything touch the shaft and possibly damage it.
I just rebuilt mine, it was really smooth at first but I notice it was building pressure on the power steering reservoir, I turned it a few times and it blew out all of the fluid from the steering knuckle. It’s on a 89 c2500 and I recently ls swapped the truck. Using a 5.3 power steering pump shouldn’t affect it right? I’m still trying to figure out what went wrong, any input would really help
Wow! I would look online and see if you can find out how much pressure the 2 different pumps put out. If there is a difference I would get the exact pump made for it. You might have enough room to remove the Pitman Arm and the seals that blew out. Make sure the snap ring didn't break or come off, it holds the first seal in place.
Is this comparable to the steering box on a C2500 Chevrolet? The bottom shaft that connects to the pitman arm by a large bolt is leaking the seal, which I assume is purely just from ware, but is it possible to replace the seal on the bottom pitman shaft and fix the leak without full replacement?
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair I'm worried about drilling through the bottom seal for fear of marring the pitman shaft itself. The seal doesn't wanna move much, so...drill out three slots *Carefully* and weasel the seal out?
You really should rewatch your video. Your explanation of the backward placed seal was confusing as hell and it was never clear which way was right. You held it both ways when explaining it was wrong. That really could have helped right about now because I have that same seal that didn't come with the kit so I figured mine was similar. The seal that you said was backwards is the one I need to know which way it goes in. Please explain when you can.
Just found a similar problem working on my sons 92 GMC Sierra 1500. Was a remanufactured steering box also but imagine my surprise when I found the Torrington Bearing wasn't pushed in far enough which only left room for one single lipped seal and a mickey mouse spacer under the circlip instead of the 2x seal stack with a single lip then a washer then the bottom double lipped seal followed by another spacer then the circlip. Finally the dust cap gets pushed in against the circlip. Be warned, some remanufactured Steering Boxes are obviously assembled wrongly with incorrect parts.Anybody stupid or dumb enough to do this sort of botched repair on a vehicles steering system should be prosecuted. These 800 series are well designed Steering boxes and will serve you well if assembled and adjusted correctly.... which is another story entirely.
Hi Shane, Yes it just made sense to me. I got a lot of opinions that i did it wrong. All i know is Shane it's been all dry and no leaks for over 4 years now! My customer is happy and so am I!
Just to let you know I took mine apart on my 1995 silverado and the outer seal faced the same way as you found that rebuilt one the 2 seals face away from the washer to keep oil in and dirt and water out ...I do believe they belong that way and how did you get the washer and inner seal out?
I show it in the video how to take out the lower seal, the factory manual shows the seals the way i explained them. I always use the factory information that way there is never an issue and I give the customer a copy. John
Hi Santiago, I prefer to be the least intrusive as possible. One some models when there is alot of room underneath I will replace the seals with the steering box in the vehicle.
Okay but how do you put them in properly, need to know cause I’m doing this tomorrow, I don’t know if I missed it but I don’t know where or when you/he said how they go in
V8 For A Heart look around between 2 minutes and 20 seconds and further and it will show the seals how I took them out so you just put them back in the same way. You can also look on Google Images and there's lots of pictures showing the steering boxes in the positioning of the seals. You just have to make sure to keep the seal straight if you have a long piece of pipe the same diameter as one of the seals you can use that to tap the seal in with and we'll go in between the steering shaft. You may even be able to find some plastic PVC pipe from Home Depot with a close enough diameter to work and remember a snap ring will go in after that and keep it in place.
The Seal Was In Correctly...It's the Dust Seal, Goes On backwards so The Lips Face down Sealing Dust Out....The Big Dust seal is Just for Mud and Water Splash
I know this is old video but if anyone could help me, I rebuilt my steering box about 6 months ago following another RUclips video thinking that I had success in because I made it with too much patience and followed every step, now the steering box leaked while warming up the truck and when I drove to pull up to a shadowed spot then just shot out too much fluid by the output shaft popping out the dust seal from one side, Since you all say that's only a dust seal not a pressure seal, shoul I assume that something else is broken inside the box???? Any info will be very appreciated thanks!!!
Mine had a broken snap ring, it's very important to put the seals in the correct facing position and a slight nick or deformed area is all it takes to leak. Also I only buy the seals from the local dealership.
Thank you for replying so soon, so it worked out good for a bit less than a year then it leaked so bad, any idea??? I jut pushed the output shaft seal back with special tubing that I did for it and was adding fluid with pitman arm off as I turn it all the way slow then fluid came down and added more fluid at same time the steering pump started making a winning noise and popped the seal out and shoot fluid again by the box output shaft.... Too long story but My question is in your opinion could the st.. pump be broken or the steering box???? I'm just about buying a new steering box and want an opinion before I hope you can help me I appreciate it so much...
@@castronly87 after you pushed the seal back up, did the snap ring fit in the groove inside the housing? Gotta make sure you can see the groove inside before you put the snap ring on, otherwise it will slide down an the seal will come out. Also make sure the snap ring is good quality, the one on mine was broken inside there. The dealer sells the best seal kit for that job.
My 98 1500 Express van is going through a quart of power steering fluid every 1500 miles for years. It's got the original steering box 170k miles. I've replaced both hoses ( high side was leaking causing steam) but the box still leaks. Looks like it's coming from the steering column end not the pitman arm side underneath. Is that possible? I've tried stop leak which has worked on other things like axle seals but so far it hasn't worked on my van. Looks like the Hummer uses the same box as a GM van.
Nope, the missing dust boot allows the shaft to get dirty and rusty which will be a huge problem when doing a seal replacement. The broken snap ring is the main reason the steering box started leaking.
I know this is an older video. But that outer dirt seal was installed correctly. If you have fluid leaking it’s not because of your outer dirt seal failing. It’s because your inner oil seal has failed. If your oil seal is doing it’s job correctly then oil shouldn’t even make it out to your dirt seal.
Now there is a really good chance that since it didn’t have the dust seal installed that dirt and water corroded the shaft which caused the outer dirt seal to fail which then caused dirt to make it to your oil seal and caused it to fail
I bet that was a A1 Cardone reman gearbox I have one in mine they are pretty much junk probably going to have to replace it! I can't stand after market parts now days!
I worked in a dealer for 10 years and have owned my own shop for the last 6 1/2 years, and I could not agree more. I end up still having to use a/m parts regularly due to the cost difference, but it's almost to the point where I need to refuse anything that's not OEM. I'm so sick of the inferiority of the a/m parts world. They really need to start getting their shit together.
Greg Robinson I won't buy anything from A1 Cardone ever again. A sales rep from O'Reilly Auto Parts told me they dropped the whole Cardone line do to so many returns.
I put a overhauled Cardone steering gearbox into my 67‘ Riviera. It stayed there for 1 hour - because the play was much worse than with the original one.... But at least it was not leaking 😜
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair Me too, and the parts stores look at you as if YOU defected the part. I always open boxes and have found used parts in new boxes, someone used the new one and replaced it with bad. It saves having them accuse YOU of switching parts, and I had a go in with O'Reilly's, I had a commercial account and they tried to slip me a used steering box, and refused to replace it...time to call corporate, I guess it helped being a municipal judge but I hate to pull rank.
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He's wrong about the outer seal its not in backwards!! Its in that way to keep water and dirt from entering into the box!! The upper seal is there to seal the power steering fluid in the box!!! If you put the outer seal in the way he says it goes, and you submerge the box accidentally it will fill with water!! The outer seal goes in with sealing facing out!!
Hi Muli, if the leak is small and you keep the fluid level full you can wait for awhile. Example: you fill the power steering up and 2 days later you here the noise when the fluid level gets low ( whining, werring sound ) and you fill it up right away you can drive like that until you fix it. When the pump gets low on fluid and makes that noise all the time ,then it will damage the pump and steering gear box.
John Sadler's Auto Repair Thank you Mr John Sadler you really seem to be a good Mechanic , So that does mean soonest the leak stops the level gets low and I have to fill it up immediately or repair the gear box right ?
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair nice, i like your video, we are the company make the gear grinding machine tools, and very interesting some tech about vehicle.hope we may discuss some tech often )
Looks like maybe LED lighting causing the flicker. I was more disturbed by the AI-based image stabilization that made everything appear to morph and warp around. I’m sure he has probably fixed these issues on his newer videos. Did you get your seal replaced or did you buy a rebuilt assembly? I will be doing mine soon.
You should really edit this video or description, as many of the people in your comment section have said.....the outer seal is actually a dust wiper to keep contamination out and the lip should be facing OUTWARDS. Not everyone reads the comments section and may install it incorrectly due to your video.
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Just rebuilt two of these type of boxes. Much easier to simply remove the complete sector shaft and cover, replace the seals and snap ring, clean the rust from the shaft and re install. Those boxes have not changed much at all. Mine are both roughly 50 years old. Saginaw 800 style box.
I know this video is a couple of years old, I just wanted to say thank you! Thanks to your video I was able to find the part numbers I needed, even if I had to pause at the right time to get them!
Libni Paredes Your very welcome Libni!
After removing your snap-ring, from the sector shaft if your lines are hooked up, or can be hooked up you can blow out your old seal with hydraulic pressure just by bumping the engine over. Then you are not risking damaging your shaft or housing. simple cheat if you don't want to remove the shaft from the box,the way that it should be done.
Yes,that's the smart way of doing it. Apparently this guy likes to do it the hard way
Very simple and to the point explanation. My wifes steering box is leaking in the exact same place but original box. I screen captured those part numbers and am heading to chevy. Hopefully the dealership's price will be reasonable. Thanks.
Your welcome Mike! The prices were not bad for what I got. The seals and snap rings were much better quality then I've gotten in the past from the auto parts stores.
I'm finding more and more parts for better prices than the aftermarket.
Its always worth the phone call to know for sure!
Must have been the last in line to be rebuilt on Thursday at 5:00pm, just before the start of a three-day holiday.
Yep!
I also have a leak, very little leak, but I just noticed that the pitman arm is not fully seated as well the nut is barely holding on to the gearbox with the pitman arm with it. Would you suggest to purchase the kit or but a new gearbox with pitman arm and new washer and nut ?
Thanks for showing your finds. I have a hummer h2 in the UK so cant find anything about 2008 models. My steering box is just starting to leak can you tell me.if the seals are the same on newer models.as i can find older kits but not 08. Thanks for your time.
Just watched this and swapped it out for a customer that was quoted a gear box , thanks ! 🙌
Your very welcome!
The outer seal was mounted correct.
it´s just a dustseal, and by that it is mounted so the dust is kept out.
My S10 -96 had a factory steeringbox and had the outer seal mounted as yours, which is the correct way.
Patrick Wetterskog i am confused as well. Conventionally the lip is inside to keep oil out. However my daihatsu service manual says manufacturer label on seal should face the inside.
x2 on the outter seal was installed correctly. its just a dust seal it doesnt see pressure
I was thinking the same thing. That outer seal is supposed to be backwards to seal dirt out.
Yeah he fucked up. The seal was installed correctly. That's why there was no dust boot.
Yeah the outer seal is to keep crap out, inner seal is to keep oil in, so it was installed correctly. It's pretty common on atvs or a dual lip seal.
Glad i found this video! Thanks!👍🏻 I got a 79' Camaro with this exact leak.
Your welcome!!!
Watch the few of these disassemblies one upper seal held's fluid in while the lower seal holds contaminants and liquid out so from what I've seen it is correct to have the seals opposing each other and not both facing inward
Exactly. The seals were not installed incorrectly. Every gear box has opposing seals. The outer seal is a duct seal.
Is this different than the ones on a 2004 Silverado 2500hd? Mine seems to have a washer that’s pressed in or part of the housing like would have to pull the whole shaft out the back.
All you need to do is remove the 4 bolts on top of the box and pull the shaft out. Then the seals come out very easy. Just make sure you keep everything straight when you put it back together. I agree that the lower seal is backwards. I put mine back in the other way.
Great video! Perfect removal, couldn't bring myself to grind down a punch, instead I drilled 5/64" holes with the gear still in the vehicle and used #8 panhead screws, worked like a champ!!
Thanks John !!!! Good Idea !!!
I hope drill cuttings are not now circulating in the box.
@@gweedomurray9923 First thing I thought.
By twisting the wheel to the extremes the pressure blasts the seals out
You are !00% correct!
Hey John, great vid! Question : rebuilidng the entire front end of amy rebuilder 2011 chevy silverado. Do you by chance have/or remember the GM rebuild part # plus the dust boot? I think i can see enough of the part number on the rebuild kit but not the dust boot. Thanks again for good vid!
Hello, I don't. The dealer will pull it up on there parts screen though. They even had both the kit and dust boot in stock.
What is the correct installation order and direction of the seals, washer and snap ring?
Hey John.. Great Video, yall are a Great teacher and have good style.. i especially like your attention to detail!! Thanks again.. ltdan
Your very welcome!!!!
So did you have a seal driver that was deep enough to seat the new seal over the shaft or did you have to make one? Im asking because i always just grab a socket and i know i probably wont have one that size.
Nurburg Flip I have several sizes of round pipe I use. you can go to home depot and buy some 6 inch pieces of different pcv pipe and that should work good.
Take the seal with you so the outside isn't to big
I just got to the snap ring and both ears busted off at the top. Cant get under or behind it. Not sure what to do. Small drill hole at the wide part and attempt to break it? Heat?
BentWrench that's a great idea to drill a small hole at the widest part and see if you can break it
The outer seal is supposed to be like that. It keeps dust out, so you actually put it backwards.
Are you sure?
@@Mikael5732 yes sir.
The problem with these boxes is that they leak, not get dusty. Put the real dust seal in the bottom and the lower oil seal in correctly.
Thank you. My 95 Silverado gear box was leaking at the same location also.
Your very welcome!!!
John, what is the software program called that you can print from and pull up auto diagrams and schematics? Is it specific for each manufacturer of automobile?
mike
Hi Mike , I mostly use Identifix. You can also find good images on Bing.
Some online parts catalogs will also have some pretty detailed diagrams how things go together.
That part you show I have the same problem with every gearbox from Advance Auto Part. As soon as I put on and fill with oil it starts leaking from that area. Replaced 3 times. Will never buy from them again. I will just do a rebuild next time myself on the the gearbox.
Yep! I learned my lesson also
A rebuilt alternator from AA failed immediately. But it was very clean on the outside. Years ago "rebuilt car engines" were sold that way, too.
This is basically the same steering gear we use in the military. I found this very helpful
Thank you for giving me a safe place to live!!!! Glad I could help.
I think center punch is a good idea. But what about a pick tool?
Hi Dennis! I dont think the pick tool is strong enough to pull the seal out.
You would have to slide it along the shaft and then turn it into the seal part. I personally do not like to have anything touch the shaft and possibly damage it.
Anyone know what seal kit i need on 2003 escalade? Rockauto if possible. Need to shipp it to Europe. TIA
Thank you exactly what I need to know. Thank you and could you do some videos on 03 kia Sorrento electeical after motor swap. Thanks.
Lol
Your Welcome!
@@tripmcmurray Lol
I just rebuilt mine, it was really smooth at first but I notice it was building pressure on the power steering reservoir, I turned it a few times and it blew out all of the fluid from the steering knuckle. It’s on a 89 c2500 and I recently ls swapped the truck. Using a 5.3 power steering pump shouldn’t affect it right? I’m still trying to figure out what went wrong, any input would really help
Wow! I would look online and see if you can find out how much pressure the 2 different pumps put out.
If there is a difference I would get the exact pump made for it.
You might have enough room to remove the Pitman Arm and the seals that blew out. Make sure the snap ring didn't break or come off, it holds the first seal in place.
Very helpful video! Much appreciated!
Michael Albrecht Your welcome Michael!!!!
Is this comparable to the steering box on a C2500 Chevrolet? The bottom shaft that connects to the pitman arm by a large bolt is leaking the seal, which I assume is purely just from ware, but is it possible to replace the seal on the bottom pitman shaft and fix the leak without full replacement?
Yep, this video shows you how to do that!
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair I'm worried about drilling through the bottom seal for fear of marring the pitman shaft itself. The seal doesn't wanna move much, so...drill out three slots *Carefully* and weasel the seal out?
You really should rewatch your video. Your explanation of the backward placed seal was confusing as hell and it was never clear which way was right. You held it both ways when explaining it was wrong. That really could have helped right about now because I have that same seal that didn't come with the kit so I figured mine was similar. The seal that you said was backwards is the one I need to know which way it goes in. Please explain when you can.
Just found a similar problem working on my sons 92 GMC Sierra 1500. Was a remanufactured steering box also but imagine my surprise when I found the Torrington Bearing wasn't pushed in far enough which only left room for one single lipped seal and a mickey mouse spacer under the circlip instead of the 2x seal stack with a single lip then a washer then the bottom double lipped seal followed by another spacer then the circlip. Finally the dust cap gets pushed in against the circlip. Be warned, some remanufactured Steering Boxes are obviously assembled wrongly with incorrect parts.Anybody stupid or dumb enough to do this sort of botched repair on a vehicles steering system should be prosecuted. These 800 series are well designed Steering boxes and will serve you well if assembled and adjusted correctly.... which is another story entirely.
Quick question
Why would it leak from the small hole on bottom of gear box...
Can you take a picture Jerry and send it to me? johnsadlersautorepair@gmail.com
Thank you for the help.
Very Welcome Dustin !!!!
Not easier to just remove shaft? Then rust can be cleaned/ polished off shaft and seals easily withdrawnand replaced..quicker and much easier
Is the first seal have the cup facing the ground to keep water out ?
Hi Shane, Yes it just made sense to me. I got a lot of opinions that i did it wrong. All i know is Shane it's been all dry and no leaks for over 4 years now! My customer is happy and so am I!
Just to let you know I took mine apart on my 1995 silverado and the outer seal faced the same way as you found that rebuilt one the 2 seals face away from the washer to keep oil in and dirt and water out ...I do believe they belong that way and how did you get the washer and inner seal out?
I show it in the video how to take out the lower seal, the factory manual shows the seals the way i explained them. I always use the factory information that way there is never an issue and I give the customer a copy. John
Found my the same way from the factory
Wow! Thanks for letting me know.
Thanks for your input James, i always use the factory information and procedures, so I ordered the seal from local dealer and installed it.
Here's what I was looking for. I too thought the outer seal was supposed to face out.
Would it be easier to remove the shaft to replace the seals?
Hi Santiago, I prefer to be the least intrusive as possible.
One some models when there is alot of room underneath I will replace the seals with the steering box in the vehicle.
God bless your heart!!!👍👍👍
Thanks Colossus!!! God bless you as well 🙏
Okay but how do you put them in properly, need to know cause I’m doing this tomorrow, I don’t know if I missed it but I don’t know where or when you/he said how they go in
V8 For A Heart look around between 2 minutes and 20 seconds and further and it will show the seals how I took them out so you just put them back in the same way. You can also look on Google Images and there's lots of pictures showing the steering boxes in the positioning of the seals. You just have to make sure to keep the seal straight if you have a long piece of pipe the same diameter as one of the seals you can use that to tap the seal in with and we'll go in between the steering shaft. You may even be able to find some plastic PVC pipe from Home Depot with a close enough diameter to work and remember a snap ring will go in after that and keep it in place.
Lip goes up on the first seal, then the metal ring, then snap ring and the last seal the lip goes up or Down? (seal closest to pitman arm)
Look at 1:35 into the video and it shows you how the seal goes.
Thanks I’ve got it
Ok , Great!
How do I find a print out like that for my 88 jeep Cherokee 4x4?
You can email me at johnsadlersautorepair@gmail.com and I'll find you one.
Great Video
Good Information
Thanks
Your welcome Roy!
Great job
Thanks Acmeradioinc !
Also, I read a few other comments about that seal is proper being put in backwards. I don't believe that, the lip on seal faces outside....always.
HI WHERE CAN I BUY THAT DUST COVER FOR A 2005 SILVERADO Z71
Jesus Elias The Chevy Dealer is where I got mine.
The Seal Was In Correctly...It's the Dust Seal, Goes On backwards so The Lips Face down Sealing Dust Out....The Big Dust seal is Just for Mud and Water Splash
Thank you
Is it to take it off with flood jack & how much for labor
On truck you dont need a floor jack.
The labor is about $300.00 dollars including take it off and put back on.
WELL DONE 👍 👍
Thank you!
I know this is old video but if anyone could help me, I rebuilt my steering box about 6 months ago following another RUclips video thinking that I had success in because I made it with too much patience and followed every step, now the steering box leaked while warming up the truck and when I drove to pull up to a shadowed spot then just shot out too much fluid by the output shaft popping out the dust seal from one side, Since you all say that's only a dust seal not a pressure seal, shoul I assume that something else is broken inside the box???? Any info will be very appreciated thanks!!!
Mine had a broken snap ring, it's very important to put the seals in the correct facing position and a slight nick or deformed area is all it takes to leak.
Also I only buy the seals from the local dealership.
Thank you for replying so soon, so it worked out good for a bit less than a year then it leaked so bad, any idea??? I jut pushed the output shaft seal back with special tubing that I did for it and was adding fluid with pitman arm off as I turn it all the way slow then fluid came down and added more fluid at same time the steering pump started making a winning noise and popped the seal out and shoot fluid again by the box output shaft.... Too long story but My question is in your opinion could the st.. pump be broken or the steering box???? I'm just about buying a new steering box and want an opinion before I hope you can help me I appreciate it so much...
@@castronly87 after you pushed the seal back up, did the snap ring fit in the groove inside the housing? Gotta make sure you can see the groove inside before you put the snap ring on, otherwise it will slide down an the seal will come out.
Also make sure the snap ring is good quality, the one on mine was broken inside there.
The dealer sells the best seal kit for that job.
1:20 question about that. I'm reinstalling the seals, so should the groove end be facing down towards the snap ring? Or away?
Thanks.
Hi Paul, sorry for the late reply. The flat part of the seal should be facing you and then you put the snap ring on
My 98 1500 Express van is going through a quart of power steering fluid every 1500 miles for years. It's got the original steering box 170k miles.
I've replaced both hoses ( high side was leaking causing steam) but the box still leaks. Looks like it's coming from the steering column end not the pitman arm side underneath.
Is that possible?
I've tried stop leak which has worked on other things like axle seals but so far it hasn't worked on my van.
Looks like the Hummer uses the same box as a GM van.
What’s the part number for the dust seal
For all who need it ac delco 26000985
Thanks nice job on that
Your welcome Christian!!
So would a bad dust boot alone cause it to leak
Nope, the missing dust boot allows the shaft to get dirty and rusty which will be a huge problem when doing a seal replacement.
The broken snap ring is the main reason the steering box started leaking.
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Fantastic help thank you thank you thank you
Your very welcome Raynee!!!
I know this is an older video. But that outer dirt seal was installed correctly. If you have fluid leaking it’s not because of your outer dirt seal failing. It’s because your inner oil seal has failed. If your oil seal is doing it’s job correctly then oil shouldn’t even make it out to your dirt seal.
Now there is a really good chance that since it didn’t have the dust seal installed that dirt and water corroded the shaft which caused the outer dirt seal to fail which then caused dirt to make it to your oil seal and caused it to fail
I bet that was a A1 Cardone reman gearbox I have one in mine they are pretty much junk probably going to have to replace it! I can't stand after market parts now days!
Yep! I agree 100% Greg !!!!
No shit
I worked in a dealer for 10 years and have owned my own shop for the last 6 1/2 years, and I could not agree more. I end up still having to use a/m parts regularly due to the cost difference, but it's almost to the point where I need to refuse anything that's not OEM. I'm so sick of the inferiority of the a/m parts world. They really need to start getting their shit together.
Greg Robinson I won't buy anything from A1 Cardone ever again.
A sales rep from O'Reilly Auto Parts told me they dropped the whole Cardone line do to so many returns.
I put a overhauled Cardone steering gearbox into my 67‘ Riviera.
It stayed there for 1 hour - because the play was much worse than with the original one....
But at least it was not leaking 😜
I had a rebuilt box like that brought in for a leak, I brought it back to the auto supplier for a replacement, they screwed up
Hi Steve, it's very sad the quality control of automotive parts!
When starting in this trade I didn't have to worry about these kinds of problems.
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair Me too, and the parts stores look at you as if YOU defected the part. I always open boxes and have found used parts in new boxes, someone used the new one and replaced it with bad. It saves having them accuse YOU of switching parts, and I had a go in with O'Reilly's, I had a commercial account and they tried to slip me a used steering box, and refused to replace it...time to call corporate, I guess it helped being a municipal judge but I hate to pull rank.
thanks
Your very welcome!!!
Wheres the video that shows how to put it back together
There isn't one, I use a socket or round piece of metal on the outside of the seal and tap it in until its flush with the cylinder head.
Nice trick.
Thanks
Your very welcome Randy!!!
Reman is always a dice roll. Wouldn't be a surprise if there was less.
The first seal its ok, that’s the way it goes.
Right on point
Thanks Angel !!!
NICE 👌
Thanks!!!!
good video
Thanks Chris !
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Set your camera on *the flower* mode. That is MACRO... close up focus. That will make your videos infinitely more enjoyable.
Ok thanks Steve
The video is blinking bright and dim. It’s making me nauseous. I’m also disoriented and lost bowel control in my pants. Otherwise, good video.
@@catlady8324 Must be rough when you stop at a Rail Road crossing and you have to wait for a long freight to go by....at 25mph. 😂
Mike Duke You ain’t just whistling Dixie! 😽🎼
Great video but why is the light pulsing lol
James McClaren lol, I got new lights now James!
Florescent lights pulse at a higher rate than the human eye can see. But it can be seen though a camera. Kinda like an old tube TV or computer monitor if you look at it though a camera you can see it rolling. Also eagles can see the pulse of a florescent light. It's like a strobe light to them. That's why when in captivity they use incandescent or led light
He's wrong about the outer seal its not in backwards!! Its in that way to keep water and dirt from entering into the box!! The upper seal is there to seal the power steering fluid in the box!!! If you put the outer seal in the way he says it goes, and you submerge the box accidentally it will fill with water!! The outer seal goes in with sealing facing out!!
So is it serious driving the vehicle while leaking
Hi Muli, if the leak is small and you keep the fluid level full you can wait for awhile. Example: you fill the power steering up and 2 days later you here the noise when the fluid level gets low ( whining, werring sound ) and you fill it up right away you can drive like that until you fix it.
When the pump gets low on fluid and makes that noise all the time ,then it will damage the pump and steering gear box.
John Sadler's Auto Repair Thank you Mr John Sadler you really seem to be a good Mechanic , So that does mean soonest the leak stops the level gets low and I have to fill it up immediately or repair the gear box right ?
@@muli3007 Yes, that's correct.
Will you fix mine?
Sure!
Sure
Mallory McGuire what's the average price?
Thank you sir!
Your welcome Reydianno !!!!!
please notice your camera of focus, usually you show something with too near distance, and focus not on it, and we couldn't see clear. nice work !
Thanks for letting me know! I will do better and pay more attention in the future!
@@JohnSadlersAutoRepair nice, i like your video, we are the company make the gear grinding machine tools, and very interesting some tech about vehicle.hope we may discuss some tech often )
Informative but the lighting was terrible. Change that flickering bulb or adjust the camera speed.
Looks like maybe LED lighting causing the flicker. I was more disturbed by the AI-based image stabilization that made everything appear to morph and warp around. I’m sure he has probably fixed these issues on his newer videos. Did you get your seal replaced or did you buy a rebuilt assembly? I will be doing mine soon.
Reman steering boxes are crap. It's best to buy new or get someone to rebuild it
Way easier to just replace the whole gear box
it's made in mexico 😁😁😁😁
This steering box was junk to began with. I feel sorry for the guy who had it installed.
So it was refurbed wrong sounds about right,lol...noone does their job right anymore everythings halfassed...at least now it will get done right
Yep, thanks David!
You should really edit this video or description, as many of the people in your comment section have said.....the outer seal is actually a dust wiper to keep contamination out and the lip should be facing OUTWARDS. Not everyone reads the comments section and may install it incorrectly due to your video.
THE FACTORY MANUAL CALLS IT A " DUST SEAL". THE SEAL IS INSTALLED CORRECTLY ACCORDING TO THE FACTORY MANUAL.
he didnt show us how to remove it how we install it hehehe
Some bozo mechanic put the seal in backwards 🤣🤦🏼♂️
Thank you
Your welcome!!!!
The first seal its ok, that’s the way it goes.