Larry has so much knowledge. I did my fitting with him about a month ago, walked out with a Newport. Obviously you guys can see outside here in MN and know that I have only been able to carpet roll it so far, but I've really been liking it compared to the Odyssey I had before. Can't wait to use it on the course this spring!
Great review of Larry's view on best putters and insight to putting history. My first real putter when i was more than a beginner was the Wilson 8882 back early 90s, i loved it, went through a various mallet type putters, from 2010, then got fitted for a Scotty Cameron in early 2020 & love being back to a blade, Newport 2...
No mention of Ray Cook, he was the first to put lines on the face of putters in the 60s, innovated & revolutionized putters from there on. No Bullseye is another huge omission.
Great video, thanks for the historical perspective on putter evolution! I started out with my dad's old 8802, then had a Ping Pal 2 in high-school, then a MacGregor Bobby Grace V Foil, and just got my TaylorMade Spider X last summer. Hah...looks like I had almost all the bases covered!
Acushnet bullseye putter. The best putter I ever used. I used a slot line for years and just couldn’t get it to produce what I consider consistent results.
My putter is a Bobby Grace AMAZING GRACE NYC TOUR US OPEN WINNER. With 7 pieces of Tungsten weight, it is incredible for more than 10 years I will not change it for anything ! ( for now)⛳️
Have to agree with the selection. Sold my Scotty „blades“ but kept the Anser. Playing now a Scotty Phantom X which is comparable with the Spider. Think mullet putters are the way for us average players.
I didn't think I'd understand the Anser to be the beginning of the MOI craze, how's that for perspective. Plus you get a little cultural history with things like the 1969 Masters win and David Pelz. What a great video! 2nd Swing is Awesome.
Great putter memories. Hard to argue with the list, but might have thought the Bullseye would make the list. Have you tried the L.A.B. lie angle balanced putters? Maybe the next generation?
Awesome video ! I have the same navy blue Spider X custom ordered without the black line.. For me the wide white center stripe is all I need,. 32.5 inches, 3 deg flat. ORdered the weight kit and put 12 grams in each corner and also Had to put lead tape on the sole to raise the SW to near D5.. it was delivered too light about C8. ive been putting lights out with my Evnroll ER2 since March 2017 (same specs) especially on putts from 10-25 feet, ARCCOS stats are showing +2.2 compared to a 0 handicap (I’m a 1.4). The variable width grooves really work ! So why would i even by a Spider X ? Addicted to this game ! The Spider X feels amazing as does my ER2. i like the Counterbalanced feel of the ER2 better, so it will be interesting to see which one stays in my bag !
My pick for the most influential head designs are (before watching past 8802) are: 1. 8802 style “L” blade in a George Low Sportsman Wizard 600. 2. Acushnet Bullseye. 3. Ping Anser. 4. Odyssey #7. 5. Taylormade Spider. I heard that one of Tiger’s putters is the most collectible (expensive.) I wonder how much “White Fang” would go for?
Found this video just now. Ah, how it all works. Scotty Cameron is a great friend, I see..... that makes it more clear why Bettinardi was completely left out of this milled putter conversation.
Might put the Odyssey Dual Force Rossie ii instead of the Scotty. It started the insert craze while combining a mallet and blade hybrid. The Scotty is just another iteration of the Ping Anser
Ping makes great putters. Cameron also makes great putters especially now that he's back to one piece milling. He also happened to make the market of $300+ putters that every mfg makes these days when NOBODY did. All the great premium putters available today should thank Karsten and Scotty. Also Tiger if we're being honest about it.
Lots of mention of the Bullseye in the comments but the Bullseye followed the identical Golden Goose. John Letters released the Golden Goose in 1946 and John Reuters released the Bullseye in 1947 so the original influential putter was the Golden Goose. However, i agree with surprise at the Ram Zebra not being included. The SC Newport is just an Anser knock off so would not make my list.
Truett Mills handmades we’re the best, smooth as butter. Karsten and Truett were the pioneers along with a few others. Cameron copied their designs using modern technology. George Lowe’s Wizard 600 (Nicklaus used this putter for a large portion of his victories) Arnold Palmer’s “The Original” and yes the Wilson 8802 (yes copied by Cameron for his Napa model).
I have taylormade spider and I absolutely hate it. As a newer golfer I have 0 distance control with it. Pull back has to be so precise or it's going 5 ft past the hole.
You may want to consider a blade putter rather than a mallet it could be the weight and mass that leads to distance control. Another thought is find a putter that has a soft inset. Possibly a PING Sigma 2 Anser putter - Thomas
I can't believe after 40 years in the business, that Bullseye wasn't on your list. Oh, and no offense to your buddy Scotty Cameron, but his greatest claim to fame is that he never saw a putter he wouldn't copy--only for many times the price of the original, including the Bullseye, initially for Titleist and later on his own. Also, no mention of Ray Cook or T.P. Mills, both of whom contributed much more to putter evolution than Cameron ever did.
I guess he doesn't think much of the stand up putter. I think in 20 years younger people will be amazed that a putter was used that wasn't able to stand up on its own. And that all golfers 14 and younger were not required to wear a helmet while playing or caddying. Except in Florida where kids weren't allowed to play golf until Tiger Woods legacy could be erased from the internet.
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Larry has so much knowledge. I did my fitting with him about a month ago, walked out with a Newport. Obviously you guys can see outside here in MN and know that I have only been able to carpet roll it so far, but I've really been liking it compared to the Odyssey I had before. Can't wait to use it on the course this spring!
Great review of Larry's view on best putters and insight to putting history. My first real putter when i was more than a beginner was the Wilson 8882 back early 90s, i loved it, went through a various mallet type putters, from 2010, then got fitted for a Scotty Cameron in early 2020 & love being back to a blade, Newport 2...
No mention of Ray Cook, he was the first to put lines on the face of putters in the 60s, innovated & revolutionized putters from there on. No Bullseye is another huge omission.
Great video, thanks for the historical perspective on putter evolution! I started out with my dad's old 8802, then had a Ping Pal 2 in high-school, then a MacGregor Bobby Grace V Foil, and just got my TaylorMade Spider X last summer. Hah...looks like I had almost all the bases covered!
Wow thats a great lineup of putters! Thank you for watching Jim!
Acushnet bullseye putter. The best putter I ever used. I used a slot line for years and just couldn’t get it to produce what I consider consistent results.
I got a 2 ball for my 18th Birthday in 2002 and it’s still the putter I use today!
My putter is a Bobby
Grace
AMAZING GRACE
NYC TOUR
US OPEN WINNER. With 7 pieces of Tungsten weight, it is incredible for more than 10 years I will not change it for anything ! ( for now)⛳️
Have to agree with the selection. Sold my Scotty „blades“ but kept the Anser. Playing now a Scotty Phantom X which is comparable with the Spider. Think mullet putters are the way for us average players.
Have owned all of these styles over the years. Keep coming back to the Anser/Newport shape.
Yeah me too! I’ve tried others and keep bagging my Ping Anser with the sound slot!
I have many putters, I'm intrigued by the science. I love to play with the golf equipment, tear it apart, refit it etc. I find it a lot of fun.
That is really cool! Would be interested to see what is inside of some golf clubs!
Really enjoyed the history lesson. Thanks!
I didn't think I'd understand the Anser to be the beginning of the MOI craze, how's that for perspective. Plus you get a little cultural history with things like the 1969 Masters win and David Pelz. What a great video! 2nd Swing is Awesome.
My top 5 putters of all time,, no specific order....
Bullseye, Wilson 8802, Ping Anser, Odyssey 2-ball, Nike Method
very good video, thank you very much, bring us new videos
This was great! Irons next? 😆
Thank you for watching! We will add that to our list!
Great putter memories. Hard to argue with the list, but might have thought the Bullseye would make the list. Have you tried the L.A.B. lie angle balanced putters? Maybe the next generation?
Bullseye
Awesome video ! I have the same navy blue Spider X custom ordered without the black line.. For me the wide white center stripe is all I need,. 32.5 inches, 3 deg flat. ORdered the weight kit and put 12 grams in each corner and also Had to put lead tape on the sole to raise the SW to near D5.. it was delivered too light about C8.
ive been putting lights out with my Evnroll ER2 since March 2017 (same specs) especially on putts from 10-25 feet, ARCCOS stats are showing +2.2 compared to a 0 handicap (I’m a 1.4). The variable width grooves really work ! So why would i even by a Spider X ? Addicted to this game !
The Spider X feels amazing as does my ER2. i like the Counterbalanced feel of the ER2 better, so it will be interesting to see which one stays in my bag !
Enjoyed this, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
great list but i would probably add the odyssey #7 fang style putter. It is still played by many tour pros today.
Thank you for watching Joe! The odyssey #7 fang style is very popular!
My pick for the most influential head designs are (before watching past 8802) are:
1. 8802 style “L” blade in a George Low Sportsman Wizard 600.
2. Acushnet Bullseye.
3. Ping Anser.
4. Odyssey #7.
5. Taylormade Spider.
I heard that one of Tiger’s putters is the most collectible (expensive.) I wonder how much “White Fang” would go for?
Watched the vid. The 2-ball definitely should be on my list.
I bought used sabertooth for 15 dollars
Found this video just now. Ah, how it all works. Scotty Cameron is a great friend, I see..... that makes it more clear why Bettinardi was completely left out of this milled putter conversation.
Larry,
Does a short slant neck hosel like on a Newport 2.5 help someone who tends to pull their putts more than a plumber’s neck? Thanks!
Excellent!
Thank you for watching!
Might put the Odyssey Dual Force Rossie ii instead of the Scotty. It started the insert craze while combining a mallet and blade hybrid. The Scotty is just another iteration of the Ping Anser
Thank you for watching! - Thomas
As a beginner, I’d love to see a top 5 drivers ever. Or even better, top 5 most forgiving drivers. Something for less than $150
We will add that to our list! Thank you for watching Jared!
Really like the Ping B60, wish it had a milled face.
The Bullseye should be in the mix
Thank you for watching! - Thomas
Agree with 4 of the 5, SC may have modernized it but it still is the Ping design only with 4 or 5 times the costs and 10x snob appeal
Ping makes great putters. Cameron also makes great putters especially now that he's back to one piece milling. He also happened to make the market of $300+ putters that every mfg makes these days when NOBODY did. All the great premium putters available today should thank Karsten and Scotty. Also Tiger if we're being honest about it.
I think the beginning of the next revolution can be seen in the LAB, Axis, and maybe a little of the SIK and 3d printed putters.
SPOT ON! 👍
Scotty milled ping shapes into softer metal to increase feel and got Tiger to win 15 majors with one
Lots of mention of the Bullseye in the comments but the Bullseye followed the identical Golden Goose. John Letters released the Golden Goose in 1946 and John Reuters released the Bullseye in 1947 so the original influential putter was the Golden Goose. However, i agree with surprise at the Ram Zebra not being included. The SC Newport is just an Anser knock off so would not make my list.
No mention of the Billy Baroo
Truett Mills handmades we’re the best, smooth as butter. Karsten and Truett were the pioneers along with a few others. Cameron copied their designs using modern technology. George Lowe’s Wizard 600 (Nicklaus used this putter for a large portion of his victories) Arnold Palmer’s “The Original” and yes the Wilson 8802 (yes copied by Cameron for his Napa model).
Thanks for watching. Those handmades were something special - Thomas
I have taylormade spider and I absolutely hate it. As a newer golfer I have 0 distance control with it. Pull back has to be so precise or it's going 5 ft past the hole.
You may want to consider a blade putter rather than a mallet it could be the weight and mass that leads to distance control. Another thought is find a putter that has a soft inset. Possibly a PING Sigma 2 Anser putter - Thomas
@@2ndswing wow thx for the reply! I was considering Evnroll ev2 I think it was gets rave reviews
I can't believe after 40 years in the business, that Bullseye wasn't on your list. Oh, and no offense to your buddy Scotty Cameron, but his greatest claim to fame is that he never saw a putter he wouldn't copy--only for many times the price of the original, including the Bullseye, initially for Titleist and later on his own. Also, no mention of Ray Cook or T.P. Mills, both of whom contributed much more to putter evolution than Cameron ever did.
Scotty Cameron is just a copy of Ping Anser, instead how can u forgot the Odyssey Rossie
No Zebra putter.
No Bullseye? 😥
I was surprised too! That is such an iconic putter that was actually pretty revolutionary!
Funny how the spider looks very much like the Never Compromise voodoo daddy from years ago.
Thank you for watching! - Thomas
Hard to disagree with those 5.
I’d swap the Newport for the Bullseye
I guess he doesn't think much of the stand up putter. I think in 20 years younger people will be amazed that a putter was used that wasn't able to stand up on its own. And that all golfers 14 and younger were not required to wear a helmet while playing or caddying. Except in Florida where kids weren't allowed to play golf until Tiger Woods legacy could be erased from the internet.
bullseye putter not in your best 5 .
Bullseye is for sure a classic - Thomas