Grimer Only - Pokemon Yellow - Can I be redeemed?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2023
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1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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Mega drain doesn't seem like that far of a stretch. It's a poisonous slime creature, i can imagine it sapping the moisture from living creatures.
Also after a lot of thought Koffing and Weezing are basically poison balloons, that's why they can't body slam.
Still don't know why a goofy pile can learn it though.
Body slime
Acid armor is just "melt" in Japanese, and this move is used by Pokemon that could become more liquid-like/amorphous (hence, Vaporeon also learns it as theoretically its entire body seems to be made out of water). The animation is actually quite fitting.
IIRC - in the anime, when Vaporeon uses Acid Armour, it becomes near invisible (though, that may just be because it's a Vaporeon)
Came here to say this!
the fact that people seeing this and thinking Rom is glitched instead of having the knowledge that this move behaves like this in the original versions speaks for itself 🤦♂👨🦽
@@WeavileWesteh?
I think someone on the development team associates Grimer with power plants. which explains why it can learn Electric moves. That's basically what the anime did by having a bunch of Grimer clog up a power plant, and then Yellow added them to the power plant as a reference to the anime.
Yeah, nuclear power plants, produce electricity and are full of dodgey hard to deal with, full of (radioactive) energy sludge
It's probably more a reference to the extremely toxic chemicals that were used in transformers for decades (PCBs) and many urban environmental spills are associated with these and other chemicals from powerplants and power stations
They have a lot of connections with factories too, which are usually electrically powered
I vote for either making multi-row tiers as needed, or just give every tier a + and/ or - variant. You aren't even halfway through, you *will* eventually need more space.
The +/- has my vote as well. It will also allow you to better differentiate between 'barely squeaked into the tier' and 'dominates the tier but isn't quite good enough to move up'
thats a good point... whatever he chooses will need to accommodate over twice the number of pokemon that he currently has.
I was also thinking of +\- tiers. I understand that may make too many rows and it wont be easy to display cleanly, but theres so many pokemon that thats going to happen regardless
You could add an Lt. Surge tier. That would be above the Bruno tier, for pokemon that were generally inconsistent but not completely terrible.
Yes. Just yes.
E+ and E- are probably your best bet. If not that, you could add a slowpoke tier near the bottom.
Yeah! I think effectively an F- Tier labeled as slowpoke would be a good solution
It also implies that slowpokes are better than Bruno which is a mood hehe
Or a SS and SSS tier.
Jumped in the comments to make the same idea!
@@hikarimemeirooficial well, Scott wants to sort out the E tier without disrupting the S tier. I suggest adding a Slowpoke tier that sits above Bruno. That way it can keep the middle tiers tidy and the slowest where they fit best.
@@ScottE-2 That's a wonderful idea.
Koffing is less dense than air, there's no way it can body slam. Grimer definitely has a body, it doesn't need to be a defined shape for it to count. Not to mention, the thing seems strong enough to "leap" with its arms, so that makes enough sense.
Koffing is listed at 2 pounds. It would be like getting slapped by a balloon, almost. Grimer is pretty dense. Listed at 66 pounds
Electrode, who also can't use body slam, has the density of Styrofoam.
If we are going to take it this far every Pokémon should be able to learn it and base the dmg off of its weight or something
Do you think Gen 1 could have actually handled the coding for that?@@BryanM86
@@BryanM86 no, just any pokemon with a big enough body. Ekans doesn't have as much means to body slam as Grimer does, for instance. Besides, I'm pretty sure body slam has a really large pool of pokemon that can learn it in gen 1 anyway
Oh boy, my favorite pokemon with the biggest happy smile is back - looking forward to this :)
I still remember the old Grimer video, absolute cringy gold cant wait to watch this
Less cringe than someone calling something cringe
@@BryanM86cringe doesn’t have to be a bad thing! if the person knows they’re being cringy, they can embrace the cringe and revel in it
@@daniel6678 nope it is a bad thing lol
@@BryanM86 different strokes
I honestly think Body Slam is pefect fitting for Grimer, it just needs to raise its body a bit and fall on the enemie. Like in the Anime vs Bellsprout (yeah, it was Muk, but its basically the same). Koffing on the other hand is a floating ball. You just kick it away. I mean Grimers weight is 30kg, so its pretty heavy vs small enemies. Koffing just weights 1kg, so 1/30th of Grimer.
Anyway great video. I also liked your gringy humor back then ^^
especially if you consider the later Pokédex entries (fr/lg) speak of "dropping their full body on top of their enemy" which would also kind of explain the paralysis with grimer/muk
I love your old grimer video, dad jokes and all! Keep being you Scott ❤️
Honestly I'm not sure if adding another tier is a good solution to the crowding issue. There's 14 Pokemon in E and 8 total tiers, so assuming a similar level capacity (similar sprite width for everyone), you get 108 slots. Even one more tier only goes up to 122. While adding another tier might still be a good idea to reflect the high finish time variance, it won't be enough for the tier list to fit everyone. I think you just need to use smaller sprites, honestly.
As for splitting the tiers, a Surge tier above or below Bruno could be nice. Probably below.
Awesome job with Grimer Scott!
For the tier problems you’re having, it’s not an issue yet. We still have of Kanto to go. However, I think the most accurate solution for the list would be to shift the times and subsequent Pokémon as you get further into it. Doing this might not fix the problem immediately but the tiers have to fluctuate over time, sort of like a bell curve. S and Bruno are the most exclusive tiers so they should mirror each. A and F should mirror one another. B and E should be paired. Then C and D. That way it’s more percentage based instead of using time as a metric which will potentially leads to overcrowding. The math and final percentage on the bell curve can be what you want but 20% of all Pokemon resting in the C and D tier would make sense as that is the most average finish for your tier list. The next standard deviation is B and E which could both be at 15% of the Pokémon dex for the slightly better/worse than average. The A and F tiers could be at 10% of all Pokémon for standard deviation 3 for well above/below average. The final deviation 4 could be for S and Bruno each having 5% of the Dex for the most elite or the most terrible or impossible of the group.
To me, this would statistically be a better way to rank them, but it would shift all the times. However that gives C and D both about 30 mons for 60 in the average middle, B and E both about 22 or 23 for 44-46 in the slight above/below average, A and F about 15 each for 30 in the well above or below average, and 7-8 in the S or Bruno/Impossible tier for 14-16 elite and terrible mons. It would also give you another way to show the successes/failures of the mons by showing their performance on this bell curve.
Love your videos Scott and I can’t wait to see how the rest of Kanto performs!
I would suggest to add a Lt. Surge tier and move all F tiers to it, and lower E to F.
Makes complete sense to me why Grimer can learn Fire Blast: it's a Pokemon that you can find in the fire house (aka Pokemon Mansion). I imagine the devs were thinking if you didn't grab Charizard, and for some reason didn't have a fire type, getting a Pokemon from the fire house, literally right outside the gym, is the best place to use the gym's TM. Same reason why the fire gym is the one on the island where the player is REQUIRED to know Surf to get there.
The simplest solution for E tier is probably just to split it into E+ and E-.
Most disliked video on a video that still has almost 90% like rate. You're an angel Scott never change.
Almost every video is 98-99 so the low 90 hurt haha. My poor ego!
Hey Scott, an option for the E tier issue could be to use Sigma (Σ) or Epsilon (ε). Both still look like E so wouldn't mess up the alphabetical order.
I also support splitting the E tier up (unless you change the
I think those are some awesome ideas. A "Surge" tier would most certainly go just above Bruno, in most comments about him I've seen, the majority of people agree Surge is better than Bruno but not by a large margin. Also the Venomoth tier being above S-tier just makes sense for this channel as well. That Fairy/Ghost/Dragon/Steel type Pokémon is the most legendary OP Pokémon in all the Generations so far, it should be the highest tier of all. I hope Scott uses these ideas cus they're just brilliant.
idk if it was only me, but i did this and it would be so fitting considering how surge is just slightly better than bruno. i mean you could lose vs him - if you get very unlucky.
I think adding a G teir or S+ would be the best way to do it. You could also add a surge teir between F and bruno.
"Alright, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" -Lt. General "Chesty" Puller
Grimer’s back sprite is actually pretty cool! I don’t recall what Muk’s looks like, but i like how it starts!
Like a wave of goo iirc
Scott: "Sabrina is so over-hyped, she's really not that dangerous."
Sabrina: defeats Scott more than anyone short of Agatha.
Apparently she took that personally.
Scott Ive loved your videos for years thank you especially for curing my insomnia, can't wait to fall asleep to the muk video ❤
I’m glad I’ve helped with the insomnia! Also, Muk is coming soon! Working on filming it tomorrow.
hadn't found your channel when you did the first so im definitely gonna watch it as of curiosity for the humor!
its okay scott, OG grimer was one of my favorite videos, not everyone disliked it
For the tier list changes:
My, admittedly limited, experience with graphic design has thought me that it is usually best to make several simple mock ups and decide based on those what will look best.
I think splitting up the E tier makes a lot of sense. I dont know all of the times, but the jump from 1:10 to 1:30 is a little weird when two tiers above it are cut off at 10 minute intervals. I know its supposed to convey... not exponential but like, parabolic growth? That doesnt sound right either. Either way, i think a tier about S would be the most elegant solution. Maybe you could do a "champion" tier or a "scott" tier to mirror how the bruno tier is at the bottom.
Finally!! One of my fav poison type! Thank you for remaking this run scott!
Hey Scott. I think just adding an extra line for the E tier makes the most sense. It doesn't require any reshuffling of tiers or weird stuff with the letting. It makes sense to me that the 1:00-1:30 area is likely the median of pokemon performance and I think it was inevitable that some tiers were going to contain way more mons than others. So adding more space to let them fill that area just seems natural to me.
To keep things simple (KISS) and consistent I'd suggest just adding the G tier, they're just letters after all. All other options add more complexity to the system than the data represents. This has the added benefit that you can just add another tier in the future if you feel you need to without today's choice coming back to bite you.
The second best option in my opinion is just keeping the tiers as they are and adding the extra line. If the tier as you defined it contains (or is likely to contain) significantly more elements than fit in a line, there should be no reason not to add it. I agree with you though, that the range of your current E tier is quite large and this is likely the reason why it contains so many Pokémon, so I consider this only the second best option.
Hey Scott! Just wanted to give you some feedback since I know you try to read em all and you like receiving it.
1) Love that you’re doing yellow again. I know it’s your channel and you should do what keeps you engaged and happy. Variety is the spice of life and all. That said, I don’t watch the other generation videos that you do. I’m sure they’re great and you work hard on them. I just don’t have a personal connection to those games/Pokémon like I do yellow. Not sure if I’m in the majority or the minority there, but I really enjoy the yellow videos, even the back-ported Pokémon.
2) I think your tiers are fine actually. When I look at your E tier, there’s a lot of first stagers and novelty Pokémon there. I think once you do more middle and final stage Pokémon the list will even out. If you had to do something, I’d say just adding a line to E tier makes the most sense.
Love the vids man. Keep it up!
It’s rotating. Yellow-Crystal-Emerald. And throughout the year there will be significantly more Yellow content than the other two. I get comments like this all the time with other people saying that the gen2 or gen3 challenges are their favourite. Little bit of everything for everyone.
I actually really like when Pokémon have moves that don't make sense for it. Not for any specific reason I just like that quirk. Same with Rattata having most of the best moves available to it.
The idea of Body Slam, if I'm not mistaken, is that the user uses jumps on the target to slam them under the weight of their body. While Grimer and Muk probably can't jump very well per se, I can easily imagine them attacking by crushing opponents under their weight. Koffing and Weezing can't really do that, since their buoyancy prevents them from really crushing anyone.
Giving Grimer and Muk both access to body does make sense or at least to me it does. I mean imagine how much that sludge has to weigh and how it would feel engulfed by "anime flash backs."
Grimer exceeded my expectations for a first stage poison Pokémon. Before it started I thought about the same dilemma of acid armour Vs harden but I thought acid armour would be better. 6 bage boosts tends to be overkill when you're able to over level!
Great vid again Scott thanks for the upload!
You’re welcome!
Commenting at the start - I gotta say, when your first few videos came out, I was 100% in the "he's super cringey" camp. Super glad that you've found a great personality for these videos, and it goes without saying the video quality is insanely high. Have watched every video since then even despite the bad girlfriend jokes XD
Excellent video as always
Love it when Scott uploads a new vid :3
I liked the first grimer video. Make the content you want. Who cares if people don't like it. Your an artist. So yeah!
awesome video again Scott as always I enjoy your videos keep up the great work and grimmer done pretty good I thought it would have been slower time
Yeah, it’s a surprisingly capable first stage poison type
I think the back sprite looks kinda nice.
As always very nice video.
Liked it before watching :-D
It is a good backsprite.
In all the many years I've played Pokemon throughout my life, this is the first time I've seen the back Sprite of grimer for pkmn yellow.
Scott you were very cringe at first. I'm glad you stuck with it though. Now you're my favorite RUclipsr.
I was
I was certain that after you dissed Bruno and went on to show the footage it was going to be another shock upset. I think at this point, not losing to Bruno is secretly the hurdle that lower tier pokemon are actually trying to get over. Grimer, you have passed the only test expected of you, bravo.
Remember that I lost to Bruno with Hypno. One of my most shameful moments.
Oh my god that back sprite. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before. It looks like Grimmace is melting
It's been said before, but adding "+" and "-" to the tiers helps out so much without needing to really make a drastic change.
Also, this means you have a ton more tiers available if you need them. You can even use all three to have the max, example being "A+", "A" and "A-"
I'm really rooting for this guy!!! I'm happy to see it get another go. Though, I don't think it's gonna do that great today lol
Sabrina isn’t over-hyped because she’s good; she’s over-hyped because she’s got a whip 😏
The whip is her best feature
“Against the second member of the Elite four, Agatha” KILLED me. That is comedy gold
Literally always here for the oak battle!!! Miss the bloopers 🥲
You could just make the criteria for the E tier slightly stricter, so some pokémon will move down to F. Alternatively, you could make the D tier *less* strict and move some E pokémon up there, that would also make the bell curve a bit smoother. You also seem to have an issue with the B tier being very small.
For what it’s worth I enjoyed the first Grimer video!
26:23 Yep, Lick is definitely super effective against Golbat and Arbok, lol.
I've never noticed until today how much Grimer's back sprite resembles shocked Grimmace.
Scott’s Thoughts:
“I get a final pound in”
Firstly, great video as always!
Secondly, think it would be best to split the E tier down the middle into "E+" and "E-". I have seen it done with other tier lists for tiers that get too big. While it would look more visually appealing if each tier was split that way, its honestly not too bad imo. Alternatively, you can tweak the times for each tier, but I personally have gotten use to them and quite like how easy they are to follow at the moment.
I enjoy all of the runs but i look forward to the yellow solo runs the most
I always imagined Pokémon that could learn and use body slam did more of a “cutter” or stone cold stunner if they couldn’t physically pick up their opponent visually. Therefore grimer is cracking beers after every body slam
Grimer and Muk is my fave poison type. Simple and gen 1 I know, but I love it. One of my favourite Kanto Pokémon. For some reason I always call mine Frank, it’s honestly just a random nickname. I came up with, but it fits him so well. I had a fantastic competitive one and omega ruby and because of that I have great memories with this boy.
Oh man… I watched a piano tutorial before this video yesterday and slowed my YT playback speed to .5x…. I forgot and when I played your video I thought you were talking slow on purpose because you were upset about playing with Grindr again and in pain 😂😂😂😂 seriously listen to the intro at .5 speed and it is GOLD
E+ and E- make the most sense, given your preferences for the lettering and clearer communication of quality of run.
They are all E class, but some are less painful than others.
Acid armor is the english game translation that makes sense when considering it gives +2 to defense but in japanese it's called Tokeru which means melt, in the anime it makes it invisible as in the game, so it's not a bug.
Clip from the anime:
ruclips.net/video/lJAtCbTjIbc/видео.html
Makes total sense for grimer to learn body slam since when you get hit enough of the rite type of slime it feels heavy, as for thunderbolt maybe their logic was static shock discharge and or like irl slime conducts electricity and can turn on light bulbs
I agree with someone below in the comments.
Add a "Slowpoke" tier below E for times slower than 1:20 or something. They arent "bad" they're just slow.
40:06 Jolteon has like a 25% crit rate, so that weak-looking 2-hit Pin Missile for 10 damage was actually threatening lethal damage. 😱
Just add another line in E tier, it might require minor truncation but I think most/all (?) of the tiers can field two lines, although not all will even need to do so. Great run. Grimer is surprisingly competent.
Great run! With that opening movepool (and being mono Poison), Grimer very much outperformed expectations.
For tiers I'd suggest adding an E+ and an F+. Could have the cutoff for E+ be
Agreed. As far as first stage poison types go, it’s fantastic!
That nickname! Okay, so, I don't recall when I got into the habit, since I don't think it was in my initial Yellow playthrough, maybe my first completed Emerald run, that I would name my Magikarp with the "Re-" prefix, starting with "Redemption", at least due to their evolution into Gyarados. (I might also think "Redemption" would have been for either redoing my Yellow save, or getting a replacement Emerald game pak on which I completed the game.) So, yeah, seeing that nickname, I can only think of my Gyarados carries~
I agree that E+ and E- would be a good option. If the E tier continues to become crowded, it could then be split into three, E+, E and E-. Thanks for the video.
Watching sludge do so much damage to Magneton is just hilarious to me
I'd say adding a +/- to a bloated tier works, that way you can split the wide variety of times in E tier as well as other tiers and breakdown more runs that feel like a really close tie as needed. I've never really liked fat stacked tiers in any kind of list because it feels rather generalized rather than ranked so splitting with an E+ or E- for example works. It allows for a more optimized look and feel as well as doesn't take too much away from the current letter categories especially if you don't want to keep adding more letters to the category list.
that and you get to make more puns a school teacher would make
Groomer gets Mega Drain because it's a corrosive fluid that engulfs and absorbed its opponent.
You number the tiers. S is tier 0, A is tier 1 and and so on. That's how we do it on card games. Means you can add as many tiers as you like.
The Pokémon using Acid Armor dissapears because it is melting.
I quite like the old grimer video haha. Your videos do improve so quickly tho.
I always felt like Grimer/Muk learning Body Slam made perfect sense... Large, heavy creatures with sticky bodies and grappling hands that could easily grab and slam something with all of their bodily force... It *really* doesn't make sense for the Koffing line, as these are basically just noxious gas balloons with no limbs for grappling. And if you're interpreting "Body Slam" as "Slamming into something with your body," we already have that move--it's called Tackle, lol.
I think that it's fitting that the E tier is getting full, E is for Everyone after all.
"S+/SS" tier doesn't feel as good as an "A+" tier added right below S. It's the same top end adjustment but keeps S tear feeling special.
Well now you made me wany to watch two grimer videos back to back
Hopefully you survived!
I saw someone else mention something about a slowpoke tier, and it got me thinking. The tier between d and e is 1 hour 10 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes, then from e to f is 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours. You could have everyone in the sub 2 hours just go to slowpoke tier, then change the new f tier to sub 1 hour 40, then the new e tier to sub 1 hour 20. So there's 20 minute gaps between e f and slowpoke, with bruno tier still being below slowpoke tier.
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I think keeping the E tier is fine as is, just allowing more visual space in it makes the most sense to me!
Man, Sabrina wrecked me as a kid. Granted, I had a team of Venusaur, Beedrill, Haunter, Graveler and Pidgeot. I had no answer for Psychic types. I didn't realize that three of my Pokemon had poison as a secondary type haha.
After some minor number crunching:
-If you want no more than 14 pokemon in any tier (the current number in E tier), you will need a minimum of 11 tiers, and you currently have 8 (plus impossible, which are excluded from this analysis)
-If you want the tiers to accurately show time, you would probably need to add 1 tier above and 2 tiers below E tier so that the time difference between each tier above Bruno is no more than 10 minutes.
-Coincidentally, this would make 11 tiers, with S tier, 3 tiers each with a 5 minute difference, 6 tiers with a 10 minute difference, and the Bruno Tier.
As for what to name them, I'm not sure. S, A, B, and C would still be the 5 minute differences, as on the current list. You could then maybe go D+, D, D-, F+, F, and F- for the other six. Or maybe make C have +/- and no F +/- if you want to use US grading. And then, of course, Bruno.
This just leaves the issue of what happens if more than 14 pokemon finish within the same 10 minute window, in which case, the options would either be to add tiers such that each tier represents a 5 minute difference (which would make an insane 17 rows), or accept that some tiers may require a second row. It all depends on how future-proof you want this tier list to be.
Backsprite reminds me of Grimace. He’s even purple to match
You could do an E tier where if you click it, it splits into an E+ and E- tier.
I think shifting things into a new letter would just make it trickier to watch previous videos. Say you move Meowth into E+ tier. Its still an E tier, so its not too different from the previous videos. The +'s and -'s are also kinda already implied when you say stuff like high or low E tier, so it'd translate well.
Random question, but with your classical music playing what music theory is prevalent? Do you play a lot of modal stuff, or chromatics, pentatonics, harmonic major/minor etc. I’m just curious.
Classical music is mostly tonal (major/minor) I personally like Romantic Era music so it has an expanded vocabulary featuring a lot of chromatic chords. (Neopolitan sixth, augmented sixth chords, augmented triads, upper extensions.)
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon sounds complicated lol
If you do simply decide to shuffle some of the time constraints and add a tier I would probably suggest doing what video games with mission modes do which is include a Super S (SS) ranking. I still think you will find the E tier shrinking if you simply do videos for the mons in that tier list that haven't been re-ranked applying what you've learned about Pokemon Yellow since you originally ran them or by running them in a modified state with moves they can learn in gen 2 or Stadium to give them an actual fair shot.
Like others have mentioned, I would do E/F and then change F to X or something.
Also, very happy to see my name included right below my favorite Pokémon on today’s video
a D-/E+ tier seems best, especially since current E tier is the only one with a 20min margin
Grimer's back sprite is really adorable it seems like it wants to give you a hug , or to act playful .😊 And I do agree out of the 3 first stage poison Pokémon (Ekans,Koffing and Grimer of course),it is really good . But that awful speed and type match up is really what made it gain so much levels in order to get some nice results, even though the sand demon was ruining your no resets run ,twice .. wow I guess the RNG does has it's ways sometimes.😂
And as for the tier list, I guess that you can add onter line or add a new tier , between the F tier and Burno tier in order to make the E tier smaller. I guess that the E tier can consist of Pokémon with that finished the game in between hour and 10 to hour and 20 minutes . The F tier will consist of Pokémon with a time of hour and 20 minutes and hour and 35 minutes. And the new Tier will be Pokémon from hour and 35 minutes to hour and 50 . And rest goes down the Bruno tier.🤔
Wow, Grimer isn't bad. Great results 😂 Also, I would just make an E- tier, since it kinda follows the grading system. Either way, whatever you decide works fine visually anyways
Only reason body slam makes sense on the grimer line vs the koffing line is the weight of the pokemon.
Like literally two days ago, I thought to myself “I wonder when he’s gonna do Grimer. Neat
You used Future Sight. It didn’t miss.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon And it was super effective on Grimer! Unless we’re talking Gen 1/2, then it’s typeless.
While I’ve got you here, I commented this on a previous video, but I don’t know if you saw it. You should put attack/defense or Sp.A/Sp.D in your effective power overlay, it could help with those tough calls of when to use 2x hit on a worse stat vs. neutral on the better stat, etc. Just a thought for Scott’s Thoughts
The idea that Surge would legitimately take pride in making a Zubat trainers life miserable in kinda hilarious to me.
Like hes got a framed photo of the # of times Zubats lost to him and its a gold placard he spends all his gym earnings rotating.
I am here to advocate a new tier between "F" and "Bruno" called "Big F"
The reason Grimer has some random moves is because it is toxic waste from originally the failed experiments to recreate mew which can learn "all moves" (i.e. the mewtwo project).
Something else that you could do for the tiers is to increase the bar for F Tier. This would mean to move everyone from F Tier currently to the Bruno tier, and then you can split the E Tier into E and F Tier. For example, E Tier could be between 1 h 10 min and 1 h 20 min, and then F Tier between 1 h 20 min and 1 h 30 min
You remember Muk from the anime? That's what grimer using body slam looks like.
That poor Bellsprout.
@@shimauta1941 poor professor oak ;)
Nice seeing Bide have some usefulness.
I think adding a G Tier is a good idea, it best conveys the difference in rankings