What's the name again? fora? forgotten lands? I can (and will) forward it to one of my friends who's really close to some GMs (if not already a GM candidate in himself and could just tell Pearl Abyss "hey I'm starting streaming" and they'll give full support without checks needed) in Black Desert If this went through, this gonna be fun
To be fair, crypto bros have a completely different concept of copyright and intellectual property than the average person. He probably genuinely thought the stuff was his.
They think the law is slow and since they going to run pull in a couple month anyways so by the time anyone corporate outside of the crypto space where aware of this they already gone
They think that taking client code and reproducing it one for one should be legal, but ctrl+C/ctrl+V should be illegal... without those short-cuts, they wouldn't have a game lol.
Callum: "Are we really living in a time where crypto-bros are that dumb that-" Me: Yes. You could end that sentence with anything and the answer would still be yes.
So, he's flipped some UE assets (like normal these days), and made two private servers for existing MMOs, and just threw some vague NFT junk in it. It's just such a flagrant con, this kind of ego is so thick it could be cut with a knife.
honestly I doubt they even made a private server for black desert since that game is locked down to hell and back. it's even using a custom engine, and that is just stock official server footage.
single player mmo honestly if someone thinks that a single player massively multiplayer online game is something that makes sense i feel like they should lose their money
I keep moving between utter stupidity or them being normal levels of crypto stupid and just having zero clue what mmo is actually meant to mean and are just using it as a gaming buzz word which shows they have little to no clue about gaming.
I feel like I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, but it is a thing for some Lineage II (Classic, at least) players to just host a private server for themselves and tweak the rates so the grind isn't as insane as on the official servers, making it effectively a single-player experience.
It does make sense to me in the sense I really love the gameplay, but at my pace rather than a pace dictated by the team (there are single-player games that take some aspects of the MMO gameplay, but there's sadly not a single single-player game that takes the MMO gameplay entirely). Playing a MMO solo isn't exactly the solution, since solo PvE is the last thing classes are balanced for (team PvE, and PvP, are considered more important, almost always leading to changes that are very disappointing for a solo PvE'r), not to mention you can't experience all content because of all the group content. But it would have to be a game built around being a single-player "MMO" (well, can't call it MMO of course, but you get what I mean). Just taking an existing game and tweaking some rates and stuff is going to be terrible.
"Okay so it's Black Desert, which literally anyone can play. How does you adding NFTs and blockchain make it any better?" "Well... [proceeds to list every sin in JSH's Big Box of Bad Game Design]"
The “crypto community” isn’t insistent this is the next big thing. You always says misleading stuff like this in your videos. Please make some effort at being objective. The majority of the web3 gaming community hates these games, too.
@@dolliedaddytv cope, mald, seethe some more. Web3 is a concept entirely built upon the want for money. Nfts and crypto offer *nothing* aside from ways to monetize things. But, considering your name, it's probably as if I'm talking to a wall.
@@dolliedaddytv nfts have no place in gaming they are "artificial" generated worth something that doesn't actually exist. NFTs are pure scam and every economy teacher and economy professor will tell you that.
This reminds me of the Crypto Bros, who bought a first edition of the original (unfilmed) Dune script, and thought it gave them the full rights to control the entire Dune IP.
@@browal14 They didn't burn the book. They are trying to sell it now. The plan is to auction it off when the 2nd film comes out. They so wildly overpaid for it though, they are going to have to take a massive loss or just hold onto it. I had to check after reading your comment, I was about ready to go crypto bro hunting for the crime.
Even RUclips recognizes the footage as just Black Desert Online xD Do these people think that since this is on Web3, they're invincible or something? That they can just take anything from anywhere and claim it as their own? I swear, if all of this nft / crypto stuff is in its infancy, I would HATE to see how it'll be when it's "matured"...
It's a terrible mutation, so it's probably not going to mature much more without some intensive care. The patients all treat themselves, nobody has a clue what they are doing, everybody is screaming and your foot tag is gonna be an NFT. Let's continue hitting people hard with the proverbial fence pole, so they stop climbing into the asylum. The mutation will fade and we can go back to good things that work.
Look up that incident with the Spice DAO who bought some artbook or something from some guy who had once planned to make an elaborate Dune movie or something but never got around to doing it. They basically bought some collection of fan art for the IP and thought that because of that single, expensive transaction that didn't even involve any official parties that are handling Frank Herbert's material that they owned it totally or at least so much of it that they could create their own movies, series and other sh*t as official material within that universe. Or those people who minted some Inu Yasha stuff on some blockchain and when being asked by people what they'd be doing if the actual IP holder intervened. Their answer essentially was "Duh, it's on the blockchain now, nothing we can do about it anymore but roll with it!". So yes, those crypto bros either genuinely believe that all of this tech is so revolutionary that no copyright and other laws from before matter anymore - or they are still trying to very deliberately fool us with that nonsense. But obviously a lot of us have always seen that bullsh*t for what it is - and some legal experts by now as well.
part of the issue is that currently top cryptocurrencies are not scalable enough to allow for any worthwhile usecases of nfts. however, eventually nfts may be used for things like event or transport tickets, if technological advancements like ethereum sharding do enough to lower transaction costs to the point crypto can just run as a background service users don"t have to take notice of
It really does, it almost seems like the 'dev' started this as a troll and has just been running with it when it actually took off. Still guilty as hell scum
@@ligmasack9038 as I said ACV and ACVD are technically single player MMOs you can play the game as lonely as you want to be but you won't have access to the features afforded to you in it's MMO gameplay (namely PvE raids and land grabbing with 5v5 gameplay) and group voice chat, ok maybe you do have access to the MMO features but good luck trying to complete them as a loner (the best you can get is request for co-op but the EN servers are largely "dead") Well Bamco shut down the ACV servers so did probably From Soft but the VD servers are still up It is mostly due to the fact that 5th gen armored core is built on top of Chromehounds' assets which is an MMO in the most basic sense people make clans join clans and grab land for their allied force
Clearly a single player MMO is when you take your switch to the dog park so that you can play single player games while pretending to have social interactions.
"We'll make a BDO private server with even worse monetisation, hurray for web3.0 !" I'm fascinated by the energy and faith those dudes put into the stupidest ideas. Remember kids, don't do drugs !
The only "feature" blockchain could possibly add to games is streamlining the Real Money Trading (RMT) of in game currency/items. But gamers for over a decade have recognized that RMT is BAD for games and should be stopped by gaming companies. There's literally no point in making in game items/currency blockchain if it is only being traded among the players, because the game itself can authenticate trades, we don't need a blockchain for it.
Yeah, only purpose I could see is if Steam ever went out of business, there should be a P2P distributed digital game download platform, so if you have the blockchain token it proves you are within legal rights to download it on any device for your own use. Torrent networks, decentral download managers, whatever. The game is yours, and as long as the internet still has the game files you can play it. Microtransactions are a plague upon video games, with or without blockchain NFTs.
@@mikfhan nice, until you find that, due to memory limitations on the blockchain, the token only contains an ID and the database was kept on a now-defunct server.
@@mikfhan Even that doesn't make any sense because why would the publisher trust that instead of just creating an own licensing service with an account.
Of course you could still crack it and copy the game as much as you want, it's more for tracking who has the legal right to do so and play the game if anyone asks later. If the tracking of this is decentralized, all it requires is someone still on the blockchain network to verify, not some obscure central master server that was shut down decades ago by the publisher. If people still play the game, they can still verify. But yeah, NFT/blockchain is less than helpful for anything in my book, just grasping at straws to find ANY usecase for it within gaming.
I love the fact that there are so many people in crypto who have no idea what they're doing in all the wrong areas. Making a private server and modding an MMO is something that is never easy. I do not know of a single MMORPG that isn't locked down to hell and it takes some skill and talent to grab and old game and add new content to it when you have zero access to it's inner workings. I mean, I highly doubt they *actually* do and aren't just lying, though, but even then if he wanted to just grab an MMO and flip it there are actual open source engines for them out there
Well, with lineage there is way... Custom servers do exist for it With BDO though. It would be genuinely surprising, ngl. Still HUGE infringment on copyright laws though.
To be fair it literally can and has been, DOTA being a popular example. Doesn't mean every game is a mod though. Edit: Meant to say the reverse, not every mod is a game.
This has gone from entertainment to public service, I hope your videos really do save some folks from losing their money. It beggars belief that ANYONE would toss money at this, but I guess that's the world we live in now.
The whole NFT space has been on a hard boil throughout 2022 and it's really funny to see the segment that hasn't boiled off distilled down to the most hardcore copium huffers out there. They're still out there with the same toxic levels of hype but in the face of everything going on they just delude themselves 1000x harder.
Considering the mobile market is filled with games containing stolen assets, this is just the natural evolution. Until there are consequences beyond paying a fraction of their profits, this will continue to run rampant.
truly revolutionary, the SPMMO genre will explode. I love Single player games especially when they are massively multiplayer. I hope it doesn't require internet!
I swear cryptobros are the sovereign citizens of the financial world with how they take the weakest of understanding about finance/IP and try to recreate it to suit their needs.
It doesn't surprise me if they are stealing code and saying it's their own. Recall when a Crypto group bought a book and thought they owned it. That was my mark on how those in crypto know about copyright, after all, they bought NFTs which isn't owning a picture but claim it does.
10:52 What they just described, kinda sounds like they're just going to enable the goodies that come with a premium MMO subscription, something you can do with ANY MMO's private server for free. So if you're self-hosting your own game server, and the game itself and all the assets they're selling you are stolen anyway, what are they actually bringing to the table?
What new things do NFT bros ever actually bring to the table? Them pretending to do something new and revolutionary while totally not doing so is one of the reasons we dislike them and their bullsh*t so much.
As someone who plays BDO (Black desert online), they must not know what they are talking about when they said they're building the game based off of it. Because the coding used to build BDO is outdated AF, and inefficient AF (according to my programmer friends). And playing the game itself, you'll feel how bad it runs even with a modern and up-to-date hardware. And its still being actively updated to this day so I wouldn't be surprised if PA (pearl abyss) does end up suing them. And yes, the clip they have shown is just a Lahn (one of the female classes in BDO), wearing a default starting armor. Nothing modified there. Even the animation and animation effects.
For someone reviewing scams pretty often, it's kinda odd to act surprised over the sheer stupidity that comes off them. It is a fundamental part of any scam, the key design element, to be somewhat easily identified by people too clever to be easily scammed. It's an easy filter, so that everyone who ultimately falls for it is an easy prey.
Watching videos on Warning people about crypto scams is beginning to get Really tiring, so I can't imagine what it must be to make them. Thank you for saving so many people Calum, and thank you for not giving up on saving more. I certainly know that I would've felt exhausted much earlier than you !
Thank God, I thought they'd be stealing from indie devs struggling to defend themselves- If it gets big enough of a deal (doubt it tho) they'll definitely get wrecked by those companies lol
The thing I find hilarious is that NFT's are hyped as 'You can't copy it and its yours!' yet at the same time they will copy stuff to make it theirs, as seen in the lineage game. Plus 'By the gamers for the gamers' sounds a lot like Fallout 4 Hankok 'By the people, for the people!'
7:38 Well, considering that these are the same people who think that you can own a non-fungible image file based on a misunderstanding of NFTs, it's no wonder their overall understanding of "ownership" is a bit lacking.
If you hear someone say the words "single player MMO" when describing their game and still want buy it, you deserved to be scammed of everything you own.
For a bunch of dudes who think they have the right to force people to not screenshot their apes, it boggles my mind that they also think it's okay to steal an entire game to be re-sold for profit. Also, good god, "singleplayer MMO" actually hurt me to hear. I'm sure they mean "we took an MMO, and made the client run itself without a server, as a single-player experience", but the word for that is "RPG" lol. Nobody "deserves" to get scammed.... but if you're paying for a "singleplayer MMO" I'm at the very least not going to feel that bad for you when it turns out to be a waste of money. I think the reason these kinds of blatant scams work is two fold: 1) obviously there's the useful-idiots who buy into crypto because they don't know better - often times getting burned and leave the market after a hard lesson learned (or three). Sometimes with a healthy case of market-gambling addiction fueling the return after a big loss. And the only kind of person who could fall for this is also the kind of person who's already very adapted to the "negative commentary = jealous/uninformed fud" , so much so that they're immune to any kind of warning that a video like this could have potentially offered them. BUT 2) there's another type of person who hypes up an obvious scam like this. Someone who knows better, but stands to profit from this and is promoting it with a nefarious intent, to try to dupe more people into fueling the pump&dump. See, the creators are definitely part of the pump&dump, but importantly there's a small wave of well-informed traders who see these pump and dumps coming, and intentionally buy into them as early as possible with the goal of reselling during the first 'pump' wave, before the crash. Since the buying-frenzy on launch can drive prices upwards temporarily, it creates a small potential to profit off of other people's bad decisions. This latter type is well documented in more traditional stock-exchange pump and dump schemes. There are people who are entirely unaffiliated with the creation/execution of the scheme, but they notice it, know the pattern that's going to happen, and find a way to profit personally off of it too. It can be risky and in very recent times (because there's becoming a more clear association with crypto schemes being scams, and also because the market is now just too flooded with scams) a lot of these crypto scams have launched and immediately started the 'dump' phase, without any initial upward movement at all, which makes them infeasible for these aftermarket predators - the only solution for protecting their income source now is to get more hype and get more action on launch days by promoting these scams on social media.
Yes, their logic is as follows. Right Clicking and Saving my NFT is THEFT. But if they Right Click and Save a whole game, adjust some words, and market it with NFTs, that fine.
At this point even me, a total dumbass, could create a "Revolutionary NFT Crypto MMO RTS Roguelike Single-Player Ultra-Realistic UE6 Video Game" and steal people's money.
Okay, Callum, you're missing the fact that NFTs blew up around stealing art, stealing/asset flipping a game isn't anything new! There's basically no change in these people, anything they can make into an "NFT" will be "theirs".
Brother Upton braving the loss of brain cells for us all. Seriously, even I feel like I lost a few brain cells from hearing about this and I didn’t have to hear these people speak for more than ten seconds.
"single player massively multiplayer online game". Bruh that's like saying "linear open world". My guy has no idea what it means. He's throwing around MMO like it's a gaming buzz word. I can't even with this XD
That's because it actually is a buzzword. Even genuine devs or at least the players sometimes falsely label their games as MMOs. If you go by the apparent definitions of some then CoD and Battlefield are MMOs too. It really is a term that means little nowadays where most games have some sort of progression systems and a lot of them are online only/always online too. Because seemingly that's all that is needed to call yourself "MMO".
@@Lenariet It's just funny to see it used so transparently as nothing more than that. Sure the term is thrown around very fast-and-loose nowadays, but this is just hilariously bad. Dude couldn't be bothered to do 5 seconds of research to learn what MMO stands for. It's just another level of stupidity XD
The problem is that a lot of the people who invest into cryptos arent really gamers so they have no idea what assets flips are and just take everything relating to blockchain based games as something trustworthy to invest in. Also mmo and single player. That is some genre twist in itself.
"Are we really living in a time where crypto bros are so dumb they think they can take someone else's MMO and say its theirs?!" I mean...yeah. Just last year there was that group of NFT bros who thought that buying an NFT of a 1st edition copy of Dune gave them the rights to the whole IP. We're not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here.
There actually are some singleplayer games that try to emulate - or "fake" - the appearance of MMOs, like the .hack series. Because their stories revolve around you being a fictional character playing these fictional games (Isekai genre). I guess Sword Art Online is a better known one, but I haven't played any of those.
omg! Please tell me, it's some kind of 1st April joke that came out much early then it should be.. cause, that's insane! How can they be so delusional?
BDO's engine is proper closed source and pretty jank tbh the binary is some amalgam of two different build pipelines, probably just the backend engine with the clients both pushed up from their own build and then into a final build. They wouldn't have any of it, they would need the source to even start to reverse engineer parts of it at which point why bother. It isn't like its built in C# and cryptobros have like 30 IQ so the chances of them running binary translators into asm translators is low, getting asm to make sense from a reusable C++ level is even lower. What it sounds like they have actually got is an emulator for a private server - like gamez bd, think ragezone has the emulator files lying around... Thats the kind of stuff you'd expect for "server rates modified, events modified... " anything you can do with a database modified and then textures are just in the normal pak files (though named paz for their packer, think they are 64 bit encrypted headed pak files). There are no model swaps in that video, just looks like a lahn going around the western guard camp tutorial area. But, from what I understand gamez bd is actually good in terms of 1:1 with the official server and the private server. The lineage one is pretty banter though, imagine attempting to strip down UE2, an engine where the books are like lost in some tomb in the middle of egypt because its fkn ancient. You would have had to be from the mesopotamian time to even know how UE2 is built. You can unpack the assets but to replicate any form of functionality....
Considering their approach to game development, I'm pretty sure that guy writes tweets by copy pasting each word individually from other peoples tweets.
This is the kind of thing that makes me really worry about the new CEO of RUclips- NFTs and crypto honestly just keep showing us scams and no other usecase…
"A scam but with good intentions" might just be the most contrary expression I am going to hear this year. Nevermind, falls in line with "single player MMO" 🤦♂ On that BDO footage, I'm pretty sure I've seen that before and assuredly not from them.
A few notes about “server rates”. It's common term in private mmo servers community and means various multipliers, like XP rate, Gold rate, etc. Like “hey guys, come look at my new PW/BDO/L2 server, X2 xp, X3 gold”. On pvp servers such rates can be mind blowing, like X100/X1000 (so that pvp players can go straight to endgame pvp and skip all the grinding)
I know the term from non-MMOs like ARK where people have their own servers by design but also emphasize that certain things like taming dinos works much faster than when using default settings.
Watching Crypto Bros discovering (mostly already dead) mmorpgs is hilarious. You gotta watch the comment section of games like Blass Global. They really see the wordt "NFT" or "WEB 3.0", and suddenly everything is "awesome".
Minor correction, NCsoft (the guys behind Lineage) are in a whole different league than Pearl Abyss. I grew up playing lineage2 and have hosted my own "singleplayer MMORPG" private server back in the day. The process was trivial, and this was back in 2005~ No clue if similar private server emulators exist for BDO All in all, I hope these guys deliver, I hope they get big, I hope they get big enough to join SBF at one of the prestigious no-checkout hotels with around the clock guards.
I'm not sure how they don't understand that this is wrong ? I played on a private Lineage 2 server like... 15 years ago, and they got shut down by ncsoft for doing less egregious stuff than this. That's another thing, Lineage 2 is 20 years old at this point. There's no way this is what people are looking to "play" in the crypto space ? Like damn, am pretty sure most 8 years old child could tell this is wrong lol.
They say you need to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. Except if you stand for crypto, then you'll fall for everything, including the the most blatant of asset flips.
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It’ll be fun to watch one “game studio” be sued by 3 major corporations at once
Get a good supply of popcorn. It might take a while.
@zh84 I'll grab it, what type ya want?
What's the name again? fora? forgotten lands? I can (and will) forward it to one of my friends who's really close to some GMs (if not already a GM candidate in himself and could just tell Pearl Abyss "hey I'm starting streaming" and they'll give full support without checks needed) in Black Desert
If this went through, this gonna be fun
Indeed
Haven't seen that since Limbo of the Lost.
The fact that this "developer" is confusing the term "MMO" with "RPG" is hilarious
Nah, he means Maximum Mouth Opening, already referring to the faces of the idiots who bought in at the moment they realize its a scam
@@Reifirup Maximum Monetary Opportunity
@@Nevernamed maximum monetization obtained
I honestly don't even think he'd know what RPG is.
They use MMO and RPG synonymously
To be fair, crypto bros have a completely different concept of copyright and intellectual property than the average person. He probably genuinely thought the stuff was his.
They think "If I change it enough it'll be classified as original material." And "changing it enough" to them means adding NFTs.
They think the law is slow and since they going to run pull in a couple month anyways so by the time anyone corporate outside of the crypto space where aware of this they already gone
They think that taking client code and reproducing it one for one should be legal, but ctrl+C/ctrl+V should be illegal... without those short-cuts, they wouldn't have a game lol.
Callum: "Are we really living in a time where crypto-bros are that dumb that-"
Me: Yes. You could end that sentence with anything and the answer would still be yes.
I'm 99% sure "server rates" are things like drop rates, XP multipliers, that kind of thing you'd get with like a private server.
Yep. Because that's exactly what they were showing. A Lineage 2 and a Black Desert Online private server. You can't make this shit up xD
So, he's flipped some UE assets (like normal these days), and made two private servers for existing MMOs, and just threw some vague NFT junk in it. It's just such a flagrant con, this kind of ego is so thick it could be cut with a knife.
You would damage the knife and get it stuck at this point XD
That's just crypto game 101
@@Biouke You wouldn't DOWNLOAD a KNIFE
honestly I doubt they even made a private server for black desert since that game is locked down to hell and back. it's even using a custom engine, and that is just stock official server footage.
@@Sw3d15h_F1s4 Most likely. If everything else is ripped off, no reason for them to have even made a private server.
I know people have mentioned it, but as soon as the "developer" said single player mmo, you know they have absolutely no idea what they're doing -_-
single player mmo
honestly if someone thinks that a single player massively multiplayer online game is something that makes sense i feel like they should lose their money
I keep moving between utter stupidity or them being normal levels of crypto stupid and just having zero clue what mmo is actually meant to mean and are just using it as a gaming buzz word which shows they have little to no clue about gaming.
I feel like I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, but it is a thing for some Lineage II (Classic, at least) players to just host a private server for themselves and tweak the rates so the grind isn't as insane as on the official servers, making it effectively a single-player experience.
It reminds me of Billy Connolly's jokes about the Saudi Arabian Campaign for Real Ale and the Vatican Atheists Society.
It does make sense to me in the sense I really love the gameplay, but at my pace rather than a pace dictated by the team (there are single-player games that take some aspects of the MMO gameplay, but there's sadly not a single single-player game that takes the MMO gameplay entirely). Playing a MMO solo isn't exactly the solution, since solo PvE is the last thing classes are balanced for (team PvE, and PvP, are considered more important, almost always leading to changes that are very disappointing for a solo PvE'r), not to mention you can't experience all content because of all the group content.
But it would have to be a game built around being a single-player "MMO" (well, can't call it MMO of course, but you get what I mean). Just taking an existing game and tweaking some rates and stuff is going to be terrible.
Insert "Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV" joke here.
"Okay so it's Black Desert, which literally anyone can play. How does you adding NFTs and blockchain make it any better?"
"Well... [proceeds to list every sin in JSH's Big Box of Bad Game Design]"
pandoras box of bad game design is overflowing
The “crypto community” isn’t insistent this is the next big thing. You always says misleading stuff like this in your videos. Please make some effort at being objective. The majority of the web3 gaming community hates these games, too.
@@dolliedaddytv cope, mald, seethe some more.
Web3 is a concept entirely built upon the want for money. Nfts and crypto offer *nothing* aside from ways to monetize things. But, considering your name, it's probably as if I'm talking to a wall.
@@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 thanks for displaying your lack of education on the subject
@@dolliedaddytv nfts have no place in gaming they are "artificial" generated worth something that doesn't actually exist. NFTs are pure scam and every economy teacher and economy professor will tell you that.
This reminds me of the Crypto Bros, who bought a first edition of the original (unfilmed) Dune script, and thought it gave them the full rights to control the entire Dune IP.
after burning it too
thing was worth more then the nfts lol
@@browal14 They didn't burn the book. They are trying to sell it now. The plan is to auction it off when the 2nd film comes out. They so wildly overpaid for it though, they are going to have to take a massive loss or just hold onto it.
I had to check after reading your comment, I was about ready to go crypto bro hunting for the crime.
Even RUclips recognizes the footage as just Black Desert Online xD
Do these people think that since this is on Web3, they're invincible or something? That they can just take anything from anywhere and claim it as their own?
I swear, if all of this nft / crypto stuff is in its infancy, I would HATE to see how it'll be when it's "matured"...
It's a terrible mutation, so it's probably not going to mature much more without some intensive care. The patients all treat themselves, nobody has a clue what they are doing, everybody is screaming and your foot tag is gonna be an NFT.
Let's continue hitting people hard with the proverbial fence pole, so they stop climbing into the asylum. The mutation will fade and we can go back to good things that work.
Look up that incident with the Spice DAO who bought some artbook or something from some guy who had once planned to make an elaborate Dune movie or something but never got around to doing it. They basically bought some collection of fan art for the IP and thought that because of that single, expensive transaction that didn't even involve any official parties that are handling Frank Herbert's material that they owned it totally or at least so much of it that they could create their own movies, series and other sh*t as official material within that universe.
Or those people who minted some Inu Yasha stuff on some blockchain and when being asked by people what they'd be doing if the actual IP holder intervened. Their answer essentially was "Duh, it's on the blockchain now, nothing we can do about it anymore but roll with it!".
So yes, those crypto bros either genuinely believe that all of this tech is so revolutionary that no copyright and other laws from before matter anymore - or they are still trying to very deliberately fool us with that nonsense. But obviously a lot of us have always seen that bullsh*t for what it is - and some legal experts by now as well.
part of the issue is that currently top cryptocurrencies are not scalable enough to allow for any worthwhile usecases of nfts.
however, eventually nfts may be used for things like event or transport tickets, if technological advancements like ethereum sharding do enough to lower transaction costs to the point crypto can just run as a background service users don"t have to take notice of
And here I was, thinking that nothing can beat the "Mass Media Online Game". And then the single player MMO came and told me to hold it's beer
It feels almost like they went with the "Theres no way anyone could be THIS stupid!" strat
It really does, it almost seems like the 'dev' started this as a troll and has just been running with it when it actually took off. Still guilty as hell scum
“By gamers for gamers” used to be Interplay's slogan before Razer used it. Of course Interplay is long gone now.
My last remaining brain cell is screaming every time I hear "Single Player MMO"...
technically 5th gen Armored Core (there are 2) is one... I mean sure the games won't "start" until you make a clan but still
@@lesslighter there is no way to have a Single Player MMO, seeing as how one of the requirements is being Multiplayer and Online...
@@ligmasack9038 as I said ACV and ACVD are technically single player MMOs you can play the game as lonely as you want to be but you won't have access to the features afforded to you in it's MMO gameplay (namely PvE raids and land grabbing with 5v5 gameplay) and group voice chat, ok maybe you do have access to the MMO features but good luck trying to complete them as a loner (the best you can get is request for co-op but the EN servers are largely "dead")
Well Bamco shut down the ACV servers so did probably From Soft but the VD servers are still up
It is mostly due to the fact that 5th gen armored core is built on top of Chromehounds' assets which is an MMO in the most basic sense people make clans join clans and grab land for their allied force
@@ligmasack9038 technically, you can have a single player game set in a MMO world, .hack, SAO Fatal Bullet, etc
You had me at 'Single Player MMO' - take my crypto, you can have it all.
The Crypto crowd must be thankful that breathing is an involuntary reflex.
Clearly a single player MMO is when you take your switch to the dog park so that you can play single player games while pretending to have social interactions.
BDO is kind of a single player mmo already. You don't need to party to progress or gain exp. In fact, you could just life skill and still gain exp.
Single Massive Multiplayer Online game its funky new term xd. Maybe they use mmo massive multscam online
"We'll make a BDO private server with even worse monetisation, hurray for web3.0 !"
I'm fascinated by the energy and faith those dudes put into the stupidest ideas. Remember kids, don't do drugs !
scammers nowadays aren't even trying anymore and yet some people still fall for it.
Whelp, time to spam both the Lineage 2 and Black Desert support system with this video. 😂
"This game is great, but I wish it had NFTs in it" - nobody ever
The only "feature" blockchain could possibly add to games is streamlining the Real Money Trading (RMT) of in game currency/items. But gamers for over a decade have recognized that RMT is BAD for games and should be stopped by gaming companies. There's literally no point in making in game items/currency blockchain if it is only being traded among the players, because the game itself can authenticate trades, we don't need a blockchain for it.
Yeah, only purpose I could see is if Steam ever went out of business, there should be a P2P distributed digital game download platform, so if you have the blockchain token it proves you are within legal rights to download it on any device for your own use. Torrent networks, decentral download managers, whatever. The game is yours, and as long as the internet still has the game files you can play it. Microtransactions are a plague upon video games, with or without blockchain NFTs.
@@mikfhan nice, until you find that, due to memory limitations on the blockchain, the token only contains an ID and the database was kept on a now-defunct server.
@@mikfhan Even that doesn't make any sense because why would the publisher trust that instead of just creating an own licensing service with an account.
Of course you could still crack it and copy the game as much as you want, it's more for tracking who has the legal right to do so and play the game if anyone asks later. If the tracking of this is decentralized, all it requires is someone still on the blockchain network to verify, not some obscure central master server that was shut down decades ago by the publisher. If people still play the game, they can still verify. But yeah, NFT/blockchain is less than helpful for anything in my book, just grasping at straws to find ANY usecase for it within gaming.
Wouldn't stop rmt at all but you tried....
I love the fact that there are so many people in crypto who have no idea what they're doing in all the wrong areas. Making a private server and modding an MMO is something that is never easy. I do not know of a single MMORPG that isn't locked down to hell and it takes some skill and talent to grab and old game and add new content to it when you have zero access to it's inner workings. I mean, I highly doubt they *actually* do and aren't just lying, though, but even then if he wanted to just grab an MMO and flip it there are actual open source engines for them out there
Well, with lineage there is way... Custom servers do exist for it
With BDO though. It would be genuinely surprising, ngl.
Still HUGE infringment on copyright laws though.
This dev needs to be introduced to some FUD for copyright theft.
Ah yeah - Must the first time i will be cheering for the lawyers of Perl Abyss and NCSoft.
It's amazing when MODDING a Game is being construed as CREATING a Game.
enderal, F:NV, and witcher 1 excluded, of course.
To be fair it literally can and has been, DOTA being a popular example. Doesn't mean every game is a mod though. Edit: Meant to say the reverse, not every mod is a game.
I have yet to see a single crypto related anything that wasn't a scam.
This has gone from entertainment to public service, I hope your videos really do save some folks from losing their money. It beggars belief that ANYONE would toss money at this, but I guess that's the world we live in now.
The whole NFT space has been on a hard boil throughout 2022 and it's really funny to see the segment that hasn't boiled off distilled down to the most hardcore copium huffers out there. They're still out there with the same toxic levels of hype but in the face of everything going on they just delude themselves 1000x harder.
I love how you have had to cut in an Ö in a different font in the patreon list... I hope that guy never stops donating
Considering the mobile market is filled with games containing stolen assets, this is just the natural evolution. Until there are consequences beyond paying a fraction of their profits, this will continue to run rampant.
Crypto; humanity's biggest ponzi scheme 😍
So far...
Give it a little time and people will figure out a more stupid, more obvious, but somehow more successful scam...
@@dwavenminer until then it still counts as a finanicial darwin award
A Ponzie Scheme that runs on the IRL Equivalent of the W40K Ork Power of Belief
Cryptobros are learning a hard lesson why there is government control and regulations for a financial market
truly revolutionary, the SPMMO genre will explode. I love Single player games especially when they are massively multiplayer. I hope it doesn't require internet!
I swear cryptobros are the sovereign citizens of the financial world with how they take the weakest of understanding about finance/IP and try to recreate it to suit their needs.
There's one line crypto-bros can rest assured will never go down: their audacity. That line is infinite and will go up forever, apparently.
It doesn't surprise me if they are stealing code and saying it's their own. Recall when a Crypto group bought a book and thought they owned it. That was my mark on how those in crypto know about copyright, after all, they bought NFTs which isn't owning a picture but claim it does.
10:52 What they just described, kinda sounds like they're just going to enable the goodies that come with a premium MMO subscription, something you can do with ANY MMO's private server for free. So if you're self-hosting your own game server, and the game itself and all the assets they're selling you are stolen anyway, what are they actually bringing to the table?
What new things do NFT bros ever actually bring to the table? Them pretending to do something new and revolutionary while totally not doing so is one of the reasons we dislike them and their bullsh*t so much.
As someone who plays BDO (Black desert online), they must not know what they are talking about when they said they're building the game based off of it. Because the coding used to build BDO is outdated AF, and inefficient AF (according to my programmer friends). And playing the game itself, you'll feel how bad it runs even with a modern and up-to-date hardware. And its still being actively updated to this day so I wouldn't be surprised if PA (pearl abyss) does end up suing them.
And yes, the clip they have shown is just a Lahn (one of the female classes in BDO), wearing a default starting armor. Nothing modified there. Even the animation and animation effects.
For someone reviewing scams pretty often, it's kinda odd to act surprised over the sheer stupidity that comes off them.
It is a fundamental part of any scam, the key design element, to be somewhat easily identified by people too clever to be easily scammed. It's an easy filter, so that everyone who ultimately falls for it is an easy prey.
Watching videos on Warning people about crypto scams is beginning to get Really tiring, so I can't imagine what it must be to make them. Thank you for saving so many people Calum, and thank you for not giving up on saving more.
I certainly know that I would've felt exhausted much earlier than you !
Thank God, I thought they'd be stealing from indie devs struggling to defend themselves- If it gets big enough of a deal (doubt it tho) they'll definitely get wrecked by those companies lol
The thing I find hilarious is that NFT's are hyped as 'You can't copy it and its yours!' yet at the same time they will copy stuff to make it theirs, as seen in the lineage game.
Plus 'By the gamers for the gamers' sounds a lot like Fallout 4 Hankok 'By the people, for the people!'
7:38 Well, considering that these are the same people who think that you can own a non-fungible image file based on a misunderstanding of NFTs, it's no wonder their overall understanding of "ownership" is a bit lacking.
oh boi,these companys will sue each other for the right to tear them apart
Two MMOs in one month? Clearly this person is a visionary, hope they packed their black turtlenecks!
Let's see what happens when the lawyers get hold of this information.
by that logic... me seting up an ARK server with custom rates and some mods is literally a whole new game!
If you hear someone say the words "single player MMO" when describing their game and still want buy it, you deserved to be scammed of everything you own.
For a bunch of dudes who think they have the right to force people to not screenshot their apes, it boggles my mind that they also think it's okay to steal an entire game to be re-sold for profit.
Also, good god, "singleplayer MMO" actually hurt me to hear. I'm sure they mean "we took an MMO, and made the client run itself without a server, as a single-player experience", but the word for that is "RPG" lol. Nobody "deserves" to get scammed.... but if you're paying for a "singleplayer MMO" I'm at the very least not going to feel that bad for you when it turns out to be a waste of money.
I think the reason these kinds of blatant scams work is two fold:
1) obviously there's the useful-idiots who buy into crypto because they don't know better - often times getting burned and leave the market after a hard lesson learned (or three). Sometimes with a healthy case of market-gambling addiction fueling the return after a big loss. And the only kind of person who could fall for this is also the kind of person who's already very adapted to the "negative commentary = jealous/uninformed fud" , so much so that they're immune to any kind of warning that a video like this could have potentially offered them.
BUT
2) there's another type of person who hypes up an obvious scam like this. Someone who knows better, but stands to profit from this and is promoting it with a nefarious intent, to try to dupe more people into fueling the pump&dump. See, the creators are definitely part of the pump&dump, but importantly there's a small wave of well-informed traders who see these pump and dumps coming, and intentionally buy into them as early as possible with the goal of reselling during the first 'pump' wave, before the crash. Since the buying-frenzy on launch can drive prices upwards temporarily, it creates a small potential to profit off of other people's bad decisions.
This latter type is well documented in more traditional stock-exchange pump and dump schemes. There are people who are entirely unaffiliated with the creation/execution of the scheme, but they notice it, know the pattern that's going to happen, and find a way to profit personally off of it too. It can be risky and in very recent times (because there's becoming a more clear association with crypto schemes being scams, and also because the market is now just too flooded with scams) a lot of these crypto scams have launched and immediately started the 'dump' phase, without any initial upward movement at all, which makes them infeasible for these aftermarket predators - the only solution for protecting their income source now is to get more hype and get more action on launch days by promoting these scams on social media.
I can't wait for the actual first Single Player Massively Multiplayer Online games ever.
Yes, their logic is as follows.
Right Clicking and Saving my NFT is THEFT.
But if they Right Click and Save a whole game, adjust some words, and market it with NFTs, that fine.
Considering some crypto bros bought a script for a defunct Dune movie and thought that ment they had they rights to the property this is no surprise.
At this point even me, a total dumbass, could create a "Revolutionary NFT Crypto MMO RTS Roguelike Single-Player Ultra-Realistic UE6 Video Game" and steal people's money.
I feel like with every cut he did he was either laughing or facepalming on this stupidity or both xD
honestly both, there are more outtakes from this video than actual used footage XD
which is understandable xD
Okay, Callum, you're missing the fact that NFTs blew up around stealing art, stealing/asset flipping a game isn't anything new! There's basically no change in these people, anything they can make into an "NFT" will be "theirs".
9:26 server rates probably referring to exp gain and item drop rates.
"Fora" means "outside" in Portuguese, which where they got the code from.
I can confirm that, haha.
Brother Upton braving the loss of brain cells for us all.
Seriously, even I feel like I lost a few brain cells from hearing about this and I didn’t have to hear these people speak for more than ten seconds.
Good to hear you've set up everything in your new house and to see your new video. Happy New Year Callum, and keep up the great work in 2023. Cheers!
"single player massively multiplayer online game". Bruh that's like saying "linear open world". My guy has no idea what it means. He's throwing around MMO like it's a gaming buzz word. I can't even with this XD
That's because it actually is a buzzword. Even genuine devs or at least the players sometimes falsely label their games as MMOs. If you go by the apparent definitions of some then CoD and Battlefield are MMOs too. It really is a term that means little nowadays where most games have some sort of progression systems and a lot of them are online only/always online too. Because seemingly that's all that is needed to call yourself "MMO".
@@Lenariet It's just funny to see it used so transparently as nothing more than that. Sure the term is thrown around very fast-and-loose nowadays, but this is just hilariously bad. Dude couldn't be bothered to do 5 seconds of research to learn what MMO stands for. It's just another level of stupidity XD
The problem is that a lot of the people who invest into cryptos arent really gamers so they have no idea what assets flips are and just take everything relating to blockchain based games as something trustworthy to invest in. Also mmo and single player. That is some genre twist in itself.
please tell me you’ve informed Pearl Abyss and Lineage of this, I WANT these guys to get sued lol
You should mention "forgotten lands" in the title or description to make it more discoverable for people.
"Are we really living in a time where crypto bros are so dumb they think they can take someone else's MMO and say its theirs?!"
I mean...yeah. Just last year there was that group of NFT bros who thought that buying an NFT of a 1st edition copy of Dune gave them the rights to the whole IP.
We're not dealing with the sharpest tools in the shed here.
Half of the MMO space cracks down hard on Private Servers.
Crypto Bros: Watch me not give a damn.
PearlAbyss and NCSoft is going to smack these guys with a cease and desist so fast.
I love the idea of a massive multiplayer online single player game !!!!!!
Multi massive online single player no-game. MMOSPNG. New genre born in front of us!
There actually are some singleplayer games that try to emulate - or "fake" - the appearance of MMOs, like the .hack series. Because their stories revolve around you being a fictional character playing these fictional games (Isekai genre). I guess Sword Art Online is a better known one, but I haven't played any of those.
omg! Please tell me, it's some kind of 1st April joke that came out much early then it should be.. cause, that's insane! How can they be so delusional?
Square Enix should hire these guys stat for their ongoing crypto/NFT plans. If they haven't already.
Crypto bros speedrun getting a lawsauit from 2 different companies at the same time.
I wonder if Cryptobro has a saved template of the statement "next big thing" on their npc brain chip.
Please let this play out. Please? pretty please? I wanna see this happen. I got my popcorn ready and everything.
"By gamers. For gamers." was Interplay's tagline in the 90s too. Razer didn't come up with that one.
hot take, you cannot be a gamer and a crypto-bro, but you can have brain damage and be a crypto-bro
5:00 "Grandpa Ape Country Club". Is that a relation to the bleeding Bored Ape Yacht Club?
BDO's engine is proper closed source and pretty jank tbh the binary is some amalgam of two different build pipelines, probably just the backend engine with the clients both pushed up from their own build and then into a final build.
They wouldn't have any of it, they would need the source to even start to reverse engineer parts of it at which point why bother. It isn't like its built in C# and cryptobros have like 30 IQ so the chances of them running binary translators into asm translators is low, getting asm to make sense from a reusable C++ level is even lower.
What it sounds like they have actually got is an emulator for a private server - like gamez bd, think ragezone has the emulator files lying around...
Thats the kind of stuff you'd expect for "server rates modified, events modified... " anything you can do with a database modified and then textures are just in the normal pak files (though named paz for their packer, think they are 64 bit encrypted headed pak files).
There are no model swaps in that video, just looks like a lahn going around the western guard camp tutorial area. But, from what I understand gamez bd is actually good in terms of 1:1 with the official server and the private server.
The lineage one is pretty banter though, imagine attempting to strip down UE2, an engine where the books are like lost in some tomb in the middle of egypt because its fkn ancient. You would have had to be from the mesopotamian time to even know how UE2 is built. You can unpack the assets but to replicate any form of functionality....
3:33 "A scam with good intentions"? What? A scam by definition is nefarious.
The most funny part, as bad as it sounds would be the people that got scammed, when they will act confused...for the 1000th time they got scammed.
Considering their approach to game development, I'm pretty sure that guy writes tweets by copy pasting each word individually from other peoples tweets.
Wouldn't shock me if they ripped off Guild Wars 2 next..
MMO in gamer definition: Massive Multiplayer Online
MMO in Crypto Bro Definition: Milking Money Online
Glad to see ya back mate!
As always, excellent fun! 🤣
This is the kind of thing that makes me really worry about the new CEO of RUclips- NFTs and crypto honestly just keep showing us scams and no other usecase…
"A scam but with good intentions" might just be the most contrary expression I am going to hear this year.
Nevermind, falls in line with "single player MMO" 🤦♂
On that BDO footage, I'm pretty sure I've seen that before and assuredly not from them.
Oh wow, I can't wait to play a Single Player MMO! Oh wait I already do that with just about any single player game released in the past 10+ years.
The way they talk about it is the same way as an excited 10 year old.
Big unrealistic ideas on an impossible time frame.
A few notes about “server rates”.
It's common term in private mmo servers community and means various multipliers, like XP rate, Gold rate, etc. Like “hey guys, come look at my new PW/BDO/L2 server, X2 xp, X3 gold”. On pvp servers such rates can be mind blowing, like X100/X1000 (so that pvp players can go straight to endgame pvp and skip all the grinding)
I know the term from non-MMOs like ARK where people have their own servers by design but also emphasize that certain things like taming dinos works much faster than when using default settings.
Thank you for picking up wheee Kira has left off and identifying these scams
Watching Crypto Bros discovering (mostly already dead) mmorpgs is hilarious.
You gotta watch the comment section of games like Blass Global. They really see the wordt "NFT" or "WEB 3.0", and suddenly everything is "awesome".
"A scam but with good intentions".... Somehow, that is like saying "This fire is very wet"
I am flabbergasted! I knew people have "funny" ideas but holy!!!
Minor correction, NCsoft (the guys behind Lineage) are in a whole different league than Pearl Abyss.
I grew up playing lineage2 and have hosted my own "singleplayer MMORPG" private server back in the day. The process was trivial, and this was back in 2005~
No clue if similar private server emulators exist for BDO
All in all, I hope these guys deliver, I hope they get big, I hope they get big enough to join SBF at one of the prestigious no-checkout hotels with around the clock guards.
To be fair if you're running a crypto scam anonymously they won't know who to send the cease and desist letters to.
'orYgin is a single-player mmo'
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I lost brain cells just listening to that.
Oh boy, Pearl Abyss will take note.... and integrate NFT's as well, I bet.
well youll be happy to know the page got takken down
I'm not sure how they don't understand that this is wrong ? I played on a private Lineage 2 server like... 15 years ago, and they got shut down by ncsoft for doing less egregious stuff than this. That's another thing, Lineage 2 is 20 years old at this point. There's no way this is what people are looking to "play" in the crypto space ? Like damn, am pretty sure most 8 years old child could tell this is wrong lol.
They say you need to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything.
Except if you stand for crypto, then you'll fall for everything, including the the most blatant of asset flips.