@@askiivfx i disagree i think anyone would be able to tell the difference. The beginner just has absolutely no flow and he isnt even making the long board seem like the main subject.
@@BreakKaydenBreak I agree that it was extremely obvious and that the beginner clearly missed the mark on the fact that this was supposed to be an ad, but I think still for the sake of fairness they could’ve pretended like it wasn’t apparent and made it a blind test.
I started editing in high school on FCP7. I use Premiere now but it’s been 10+ years and for the life of me I’m pretty sure I’d be dumb as hell on iMovie
I started editing on iMovie on iPhone back in 2017, and I can tell you that there is nothing to be ashamed of if you edit on iMovie. I transitioned onto Adobe Premiere pro, but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt - if I didn't start out on iMovie, I would not have the skill set I have today. iMovie will always have a special place in my heart.
@@bhuvansetia205 Defo man! A lot of the basic, fundamental skills really lie in iMovie. It's a nice introduction to the basic tools like the cut, the selection tool, etc.
I started on iMovie in 2015 stopped editing for 3 years, then started learning final cut in 2018 (btw I did not pay for final cut I was my mom’s computer which had Final Cut Pro. Oh and for some reason my mom isn’t a boomer that doesn’t know how to use tech she as actually very tech savvy and knows how to factory reset, which is Impressive for a boomer. Sorry for that side story.) I switched to premiere pro this summer. ( I was able to get a discount and I only pay $6.50 for Adobe creative cloud.
Eh, somewhat. The context of the video is similar enough that both iMovie and Premier can engage with it well. It's like asking someone with a bike and someone with a car to go a few blocks away to a grocery store and bring back some milk and seeing how fast both take. In that test, both don't really much have that much of an advantage over the other. But if the test was something like 1 street away or like a huge distance away, then the tool would really outshine the skill of the user. In the same way, if you were asked to quickly edit some clips together, iMovie would do that faster and easier. If you were asked to do a series of complicated shots with effects like colour correction, green screen, multiple layers of images and audio, then Premier would shine since iMovie can't do that kind of stuff (aside from just 1 later of green screen).
Damn, I can’t believe the difference between a pro who was handed some footage and told to make something and a pro who knew what he wanted, recorded it in his style and edited it all together himself. That last one was incredible.
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Second day learning Premiere Pro after 5 years of using iMovie...the learning curve is steep and I find myself wanting to run back into the arms of my simpleminded but familiar ex like, "Forgive me for wanting more; all I really needed was right in front of me all along!!!!" But the die has been cast; my new laptop is a PC...so I persevere😜
I just got fcp a few weeks ago. There is a huge learning curve to that too. I have bought some really great gear recently, so the only thing holding me back is myself. I’ll always be learning!
@@sean631 I think part of my problem is that I am learning Premiere on a PC, so EVERYTHING is different! But as far as the editing software itself goes, I can now do pretty much everything I was able to do in iMovie using Premiere...it just takes me about 25% longer, and TBH I'm still not sure it's really worth it 😜 I run a channel that posts 2-3 videos per week, so I'm currently alternating between iMovie and Premiere for my edits, to sort of ease into it. It's time for me to learn some stuff that canNOT be done with iMovie, which will push me into Premiere territory for good (I hope)! Good luck!!
And he slowed it down at the right times I thought was better than even the final version he just needs to add the logo at end and then I movie won easily
I'm a film maker for almost 7 years and I've never tried to use some expensive equipment like cameras or gimbal. But here's the most important, I don't think about the equipment, I just take advantage for this and the result is pretty good. Some of my shortfilms won even without proper equipment. You are right. 😊 "You don't need the nice equipment. You don't need the nicest software. What you do need is SKILLS."
New challenge: Now take the same footage and make it NOT look gay. Looks to me like all 3 looked that way and regardless of what you do, the last scene where they are standing close and gazing at the building ends the film on a gay note. Could the music or sound FX change what you’re SEEING? That could be the next challenge
@@LMDProductionsOfficial if they are using lightweight uncompressed formats like DNxHR or ProRes, the export will be much faster that it will probably take just about the same amount of time as the video duration depending on hoe much e.g. colir grading you did to the footages (unless your computer is crap like mine)
The most major issue i found with Joshs edit was that despite him having done a color grade, it didnt look like it had been done. Mainly because the main subjects of the film were almost always merging with the background so often times i didnt know what i was supposed to focus on. However Jake (despite having only the basic tools of imovie at his disposal) tackled this problem very well. In every frame my eye is immediately drawn to the characters instead of going anywhere else.
Another pro tip. Avoid jumpcuts when doing something high budget. Ofc on YT and other social media stuff, it’s acceptable. But when working with clients. AVOID JUMPCUTS. Follow through with the action (eg, picking up the skateboard and walking, then next shot is them at the half wall)
The 10:10 min transition was SO DOPE - been rewatching that scene 10 times now... still can't get enough! Great sound design and transition in general!
Would be funny if in 0:47 he got "Sorry, a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Pro to shut down. We will attempt to save your current project."
Do a blind comparison like just do all you like but reviewer would not know who made which one and at the end choose the best one, that would be a bit more dope you know.
Definitely recommend this video to anyone that has an interest to RUclips, content, editing etc. I was this close 🤏🏼 to spending on equipment when in reality I just should try to use whatever I own and just adapt to it. Sharpening ones skill can make a big difference! Thank you 🙏🏼!
Diego Henesy I use iMovie coz I’m not rich enough to spend on adobes apps and FCP ... although i would choose FCP because $300 for 2 years is significantly less than $800 for 2 years.. But , If I’m on PC , I would choose Adobe
Josh has improved - Premiere can be intimidating for beginners so well done. Jake with the experience did good with the color grading to make it look cinematic. London - I was blown away. The transitions, sound design, and video pace really make a huge difference. Where can I find transitions and sound design effects?
Ghost longboards in general just hurts me. It breaks, if it doesn't it flexed too much, so say goodbye to shuv it's or anything elke rly. And there's no griptape, so if it starts raining you literally can't get home on it, and even when it's dry, when going even slightly fast these things will get u in a hospital.
True but Jimmy hendrix played guitar differently to the conventional method and hooked his thumb over to play cords and he was a king. That being said, these kids did nothing to validate or justify pushing mongo style
@@preformingmonkey tru there are pro skaters who push mongo but its pretty clear these kids cant ride well, which kind of makes the base footage look bad in my opinion
There's 2 ways to look at the results: The first would be based on engagement which the iMovie is better for. The second would be looking at the cinematic side and just enjoying everything on screen which Premiere Pro kills it. I personally prefer the Premiere Pro version because it's visually pleasing and keeps my attention on the skateboards which is what you are trying to sell, I know what a skateboard sounds like and I know what traffic sounds like but if I went skateboarding it would be for the joy and enjoying the environment
I like the soft colors on the first one, should matched brightness on some shots though and the building shots where too long and malplaced. And the soft vibe with just music was fine too.
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Conclusion: it doesn’t matter what software you use (unless it doesn’t have all you need to make a good edit in your style), it is mostly about the experience of the editor
You should do a “make it interesting” contest (Or whatever you wanna call it). Landon gives you a spot/location and you both have the same camera but you find different angles to make that subject or location the most interesting and appealing
I used to edit on iMovie, and I used it to its fullest capabilities. I switched to Premiere Pro, and man, its so much better in terms of capabilities. But really, it boils down to this. Editing software isn't what makes an editor good, but its experience. Editing software merely enhances what the editor can do, not change them.
I would love to see a comparisons where the person reviewing the outcome not knowing which person made which. Otherwise this series will just be the new guy getting dumped on every episode. thx
It’s all about the vision and the skills to be able to transmit that feeling to the audience! Like the guy perfectly did in I Movie it was all about the kids ride, not the longboards ! Story telling perfect!
As a video editor, I've been waiting for this type of video for a while, especially since I once had to edit videos on iMovie instead of Premiere! It would've been nice to showcase a bit more workflow differences each person faced, such as how you organize material with libraries on iMovie vs bins in Premiere, and the way each software saves projects differently, but I'm happy with how this has turned out.
I’m 15 and have been using filmora for about 3 years with my phone on a gimbal, and a mavic, I think you just need to know what to film and how to tell the story editing, I have mediocre equipment and software and I think it still produces good results
I just made a roughly 30-hour long video in iMovie. I had to bust it up into 3 parts to get it onto RUclips under this channel. I did the entire thing in iMovie on a lightweight Macbook Air. If you want to know what that did to the video and how it turned out, continue reading. This way you can see what the final product on a serious attempt from somebody who is a total beginner at all video editing. Before we get into this, I have a very limited budget and basically no tools to video edit except iMovie. That is why I used it. I knew very little to none going into this project about how to use iMovie. I basically could get things into the timeline and bump them up against each other. I did not even know how to add transitions between the video clips when I started. I learned a ton along the way. This thing is in fact 30 hours long. It is actually just shy of 30 hours at 29 hours and 40 some minutes. It ended up being just under 100GB in file size at around 98.5GB. (And that was only at 720p. I decided not to push my luck too far. 1080p would have been 300+GB for the record.) For context, it is an entire playthrough, from start to finish, of a video game called The Last of Us Part II, although that is not important to the comment. Just know that it is so long because I wanted to include everything for the whole experience, not the edited down version that a ton of other creators had made already. iMovie handled the entirety of the 30 hours of video amazingly well while editing. It did not lag. It starts up quickly and loads the videos into the timeline in under 15 seconds or so despite the extensive video. It did not matter if I was set up for editing 1080p or 720p as it seems iMovie treats the video file at its best possible quality while editing and reduces it only when you export. However, I should note that I wasn't looking for much editing such as color correction or grading, sound editing, or anything in that regard. I was mainly using it to seamlessly stitch together a ton of shorter clips into one massive video. For this, I had absolutely no troubles once I learned a few tricks on how to zoom in on the timeline and whatnot for more accurate trimming. So editing went great. Later on, I discovered that iMovie cannot currently export more than 24 hours worth of footage. It collects the time past 24 hours and only uses that amount of time from the start of the video. For example, a video is 26 hours long. It will only export the first 2 hours of your video. If it is 28 hours long, the first 4 hours will be exported. Anything up to 23 hours and 59 minutes will ~theoretically~ be fine. I say theoretically because I was having an extremely difficult time even getting this long of a video exported. iMovie can only handle exporting maybe 7 hours of video without hanging indefinitely, at least on my computer. This is where iMovie is extremely lacking in my experience. In fact, 7 hours was really pushing it. After multiple weeks of head scratching and countless failed attempts at exports, I, at last, got everything out of iMovie by breaking them down into sections of 2-4 hours of video. From there, I tried a ton of apps to recombine them post export. None of them worked. Anything over 24 hours crashes every program (not my computer, the program itself stops responding or hangs indefinitely). Then I found that QuickTime Player can be used to recombine all the individual clips. I gave it a shot. QuickTime Player amazingly pulled it off but deleted the audio due to the .mov file format. It actually did not delete the audio, only made it unusable. I know this as a long time later I compressed the file using an open source app called HandBrake into a .mp4 file for RUclips and the sound showed back up. So, apparently, .mov format, which iMovie uses by default, has issues with sound over a certain time. So, to summarize, if you ignore the limited timing on the export of files, you can edit in iMovie even with massive files without trouble. The export is what gets you. Now, if you are editing a normal length video of around an hour or less, then iMovie should do you just fine. There was also a very frustrating issue with uploading to RUclips, but that does not matter for this comment. Just know I did succeed in getting them up on RUclips at 720p. (RUclips wouldn't accept any larger quality due to file size.) You can find all three of them on my channel named as "The Last of Us Part II Survival + Complete Playthrough Part #" Where the # is 1, 2, or 3 with respect to chronological time. If you want to check that out, head on over.
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Another thing that I noticed about Josh's edit is that from 4:41 to 4:52 there is nothing but B-roll. That's around 11 seconds of B-roll in the middle of a video about two fellows skating around the city. This really pulls you away from the subject your supposed to be focused on.
Most film editors can go back and forth between which is "best" Final Cut Pro (the step up from IMOVIE and arguably the best comparison tool, or Adobe Premiere. I'll remind everyone here that once you commit to Adobe you have committed to a never-ending cost. Those of you who are students can get the complete Final Cut Pro plus MANY add ons for one price forever-$200! There is NO comparison in terms of cost. For the vast majority, if you have a Mac computer Final Cut Pro is the editing tool to get.
I couldn’t agree more. Also FCP X is more user friendly too and doesn’t seem to crash on people’s computers the way Premiere does (as I saw a lot of people on FB talking about the issues with Premiere Pro 2020). Lol!
I would personally think the video would be better if they could actually skate. No hate, but the mongo pushing defeats the purpose and makes the brand look like they don't know how to choose the proper people to represent them
Oh yeah iMovie! my first ever video editing app that I have used before upgrading to final cut pro, I really loved that app. I still remember how some visual effects can be done using iMovie like cloning, green screen, adding special effects and even doing some hologram screen effect.
Jake's edit was my favorite. I feel like it was a nice balance between Josh's and Landon's. Josh's felt like a slower paced indie movie and Landon's felt a little too "youtuber" for me with the slow mo, speed ramping, and transition effects. Jake's sound design felt more real while Landon's felt really stylized. Landon's would be good for social media but I think Jake's is overall the best.
My opinion as a complete amateur: First one: "I guess not bad for a beginner? looks nice" Second one: Simply made me wonder what it is. No idea, but I guess that's what commercial is.
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@@StrixVFX it’s not hating it’s criticizing the output of how they advertised the product. clearly the models are not good skaters as i observe from the comments, so for actual skaters its not selling for them.
the main point was about the editing... its not that deep, they can film about shit, and people would still complain why the shape of the shit is like ice cream.. sheesshh
Been using Sony Vegas for around 5 years and people always ask me to help them with editing on other softwares I feel like people don’t understand that I’m just dumb when it comes to other softwares 😂
Listen.. ive been skateboarding for well over 15+ years. The two things skaters dont wanna see is maul grabbing and mongo pushing bc in the long run it messes up balance. I think we should all remember to study what ever we are filming for. Myself included! Not to be negative either, i just know that its best to learn ftom others mistakes 😁 GREAT VIDEO!!!!!! Its inspiring af
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Beginner vs Pro: lighting. Give the pro a tight budget, give the beginner all the gear.
yes
That would be cool.
I was also thinking about the same
Would love watching them
Hehe, it seems I'm not the only one who would like to see this match 🙂
The judge should not know whose edits he's watching.
It should be a blind review.
So true, he might have a biased on Jake's perspective because he is the pro
@@askiivfx i disagree i think anyone would be able to tell the difference. The beginner just has absolutely no flow and he isnt even making the long board seem like the main subject.
@@BreakKaydenBreak I agree that it was extremely obvious and that the beginner clearly missed the mark on the fact that this was supposed to be an ad, but I think still for the sake of fairness they could’ve pretended like it wasn’t apparent and made it a blind test.
True
As a photographer it's easy to figure out
The real winner should be the person who got to edit this video
Nailed it
It’s actually really well edited, and the cinematic shots are great
@Chris gass im not sure who exactly ur asking, but if your asking me, Im not exactly one,i only uploaded one video
Congrats I am your 1000th like
@@tawfeeqomar4271 thank you and congrats im ur 2nd like
I started editing in high school on FCP7. I use Premiere now but it’s been 10+ years and for the life of me I’m pretty sure I’d be dumb as hell on iMovie
@@tenpuzzles who need that resolve app.. no one
@@aperturl-rafif4930 why not?
It's a fact. iMovie is a mind wrecker.
Good for you
@@tenpuzzles DaVinci Resolve is a pro tool (no pun intended) not a learning tool.
I started editing on iMovie on iPhone back in 2017, and I can tell you that there is nothing to be ashamed of if you edit on iMovie. I transitioned onto Adobe Premiere pro, but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt - if I didn't start out on iMovie, I would not have the skill set I have today. iMovie will always have a special place in my heart.
Yessir, that's how I started fcpx. Tbh, if you're good in iMovie, fcpx won't be that hard for you
@@bhuvansetia205 Defo man! A lot of the basic, fundamental skills really lie in iMovie. It's a nice introduction to the basic tools like the cut, the selection tool, etc.
I started on iMovie in 2015 stopped editing for 3 years, then started learning final cut in 2018 (btw I did not pay for final cut I was my mom’s computer which had Final Cut Pro. Oh and for some reason my mom isn’t a boomer that doesn’t know how to use tech she as actually very tech savvy and knows how to factory reset, which is Impressive for a boomer. Sorry for that side story.) I switched to premiere pro this summer. ( I was able to get a discount and I only pay $6.50 for Adobe creative cloud.
Started on iMovie '08 in 2009... Using Premiere Pro a decade later I can concur the struggle on iMovie was worth it
It’s just an editing app wth
This video proves all you really need is your skills in the execution of the story.
Excellent source footage also helps lol
You are both right
why i always read your name as hitler smith
Eh, somewhat. The context of the video is similar enough that both iMovie and Premier can engage with it well. It's like asking someone with a bike and someone with a car to go a few blocks away to a grocery store and bring back some milk and seeing how fast both take. In that test, both don't really much have that much of an advantage over the other. But if the test was something like 1 street away or like a huge distance away, then the tool would really outshine the skill of the user.
In the same way, if you were asked to quickly edit some clips together, iMovie would do that faster and easier. If you were asked to do a series of complicated shots with effects like colour correction, green screen, multiple layers of images and audio, then Premier would shine since iMovie can't do that kind of stuff (aside from just 1 later of green screen).
you use final cut pro right?
we've been bamboozled...
they made us watch an ad 3x. lol
Lol wow
Mirage main I see
Now there is RUclips vanced, no ads😭 maybe I think it's illegal
Damn, thats why they didnt put ads on this video, it comes included
( reading comments Nike socks goes across screen)😂😂😂
Damn, I can’t believe the difference between a pro who was handed some footage and told to make something and a pro who knew what he wanted, recorded it in his style and edited it all together himself. That last one was incredible.
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Vision is everything
Second day learning Premiere Pro after 5 years of using iMovie...the learning curve is steep and I find myself wanting to run back into the arms of my simpleminded but familiar ex like, "Forgive me for wanting more; all I really needed was right in front of me all along!!!!" But the die has been cast; my new laptop is a PC...so I persevere😜
As you should. In a blink of an eye, you'll be able to use it with your eyes closed
I just got fcp a few weeks ago. There is a huge learning curve to that too. I have bought some really great gear recently, so the only thing holding me back is myself. I’ll always be learning!
This is so well put. I’m experiencing the exact same process but I’ve been working with premier pro for two weeks already. We can do this!
Scary how perfectly you described what I’m going through right now. 3 days in, I feel so useless! We need an update from you
@@sean631 I think part of my problem is that I am learning Premiere on a PC, so EVERYTHING is different! But as far as the editing software itself goes, I can now do pretty much everything I was able to do in iMovie using Premiere...it just takes me about 25% longer, and TBH I'm still not sure it's really worth it 😜 I run a channel that posts 2-3 videos per week, so I'm currently alternating between iMovie and Premiere for my edits, to sort of ease into it. It's time for me to learn some stuff that canNOT be done with iMovie, which will push me into Premiere territory for good (I hope)! Good luck!!
Pro will always be pro...
ahhh, you again 😐
Why do u comment on random vids bro
Yeah
Now your comments are more fascinating than RUclips videos
Bro U seem to be there on every video
That guy who edited on iMovie just nailed it. No nauseating transitions just beautiful and immersive flow.
"that guy"
@@aboodabulaban2867 bro fax🤣
And he slowed it down at the right times I thought was better than even the final version he just needs to add the logo at end and then I movie won easily
@@krisgotvvs5709 agreed!
Agreed
"And I haven't touched iMovie since eighth grade"
IM DEAD
Live.
me in eighth grade being forced to use imovie in filmmaking
@@mia-ci2ur you’re a filmmaker?
Premier pro 🔥
@@AngryKangooRo-j2v they could be, but its usually a class while in school
Me in iMovie: *splits and makes basic zoom in
Also me: Hey! That’s pretty good!
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Am I the only one thinking that they should've used Windows Movie Maker?
Haha we thought about it but nobody uses Windows Movie Maker. More of our followers were more interested in iMovie
@@fulltimefilmmaker What??? HAHAHA
Is there any version of windows movie maker on mac?
@@mas_yaris dude from the nae itself WINDOWS movie maker.
Dude, i used WMM 2012 version for my first editing in around 2018. Its crazy simple for cut editing
Josh's work is coming along nicely, Jake's edit was great, Landon's edit was awesome! The pacing and speed ramps really make the difference
Jake's edit was obviously better, because of his experience in choosing shots. He thought it through much more, and you can tell.
If i am the client: both sucked lol. Boring videos , unnecesary shot of builldings and dumb stuff. music also sucked.
@@ImpGaming lmao🤣
Pnproject Pnprojectt luckily you are not the client✊🏼
brendan moriarty is this meant for me?
@@ImpGaming 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Plot Twist: this video has been made on kinemaster
It all makes sense now
After effects dumvb
@@wewwew2001 it's a joke
@@wewwew2001 its a joke
@@wewwew2001 r/whooosh
I'm a film maker for almost 7 years and I've never tried to use some expensive equipment like cameras or gimbal. But here's the most important, I don't think about the equipment, I just take advantage for this and the result is pretty good. Some of my shortfilms won even without proper equipment.
You are right. 😊 "You don't need the nice equipment. You don't need the nicest software. What you do need is SKILLS."
josh’s looked like a gay romance film
Just thought that. But a really good gay romance film😂
New challenge: Now take the same footage and make it NOT look gay. Looks to me like all 3 looked that way and regardless of what you do, the last scene where they are standing close and gazing at the building ends the film on a gay note. Could the music or sound FX change what you’re SEEING? That could be the next challenge
If you thought it looked gay you are likely projecting. Just come out already it is 2020.
@@JuanDuenas1943 shut up lol it just means it looks gay
@@owdubVAL If you veiw the endearment of two male friends as being automatically romantic, just come out alreally. We will not judge you.
1:48 „That costs almost 400 Dollars a year....“
Russians smiling in utorrent
Haha
Lol u think only russians do it ?
@@cicolas_nage true
@@jeanpierre4474 nah man im from switzerland and i do it to
lmao
Imagine being able to edit in two hours.......
Is it wrong i can under two hours.. especially if youre cramming and a film student😅😅😅😅😅
Depends on duration and footage size. And also how much cuttings are required.
Were they including export time?
@@LMDProductionsOfficial if they are using lightweight uncompressed formats like DNxHR or ProRes, the export will be much faster that it will probably take just about the same amount of time as the video duration depending on hoe much e.g. colir grading you did to the footages (unless your computer is crap like mine)
@@dy7296 I've got a fairly good PC and I've got a video saying it will take 6hrs to export (video is 40mins long)
The most major issue i found with Joshs edit was that despite him having done a color grade, it didnt look like it had been done. Mainly because the main subjects of the film were almost always merging with the background so often times i didnt know what i was supposed to focus on. However Jake (despite having only the basic tools of imovie at his disposal) tackled this problem very well. In every frame my eye is immediately drawn to the characters instead of going anywhere else.
Idk but I don't rlly care about that
@@venomshot2815 you might not but when making something for a client you have to make sure that the eye is drawn to the product without any effort
@@Dhruv1223 ye ik
Okey lemme get this straight.... So someone made a long board company vid with 2 guys Who push mongo and arent that stable
lmao was searching for this comment
Thanks I was creasing the entire video
lmaoo
Yooo i was thinking the same thing. Its SOOOO cringey to watch 😂😂
lmaoo, i was waiting for this 🤣🤣💀
Another pro tip. Avoid jumpcuts when doing something high budget. Ofc on YT and other social media stuff, it’s acceptable. But when working with clients. AVOID JUMPCUTS. Follow through with the action (eg, picking up the skateboard and walking, then next shot is them at the half wall)
Plot twist: This is also a commercial for Ghost boards
The 10:10 min transition was SO DOPE - been rewatching that scene 10 times now... still can't get enough! Great sound design and transition in general!
You mean at 10:09
That just a simple cut with a speed ramp between two cuts.
1:46 400$ per year
Me who cracked it: -_-
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something like "phone only" vs "professional setup" where a professional gets only a phone to shoot and edit would be cool
Hey, I do that. You can watch my video and see my professional editing done just by a phone.
@@AdityaGupta-mh7of professional?
@@njlaw2583 yes
Nice, I wanna see that too.
@FilipeQ for what
Jake and Josh both did a good job, but man Landon's edit is insane!
I agree, and he had both the skill and the software which probably made a difference.
@@jordanscott6204 Yeah and he shot the footage with a particular vision in mind which always helps!
Exactly
Was okay.
Landon's edit style is overused nowadays
I do not understand the last frame of all 3 edits. What‘s the point of this Building?
looks cool.
It's cinematic n stuff
Why not
Would be funny if in 0:47 he got "Sorry, a serious error has occurred that requires Adobe Premiere Pro to shut down. We will attempt to save your current project."
Do a blind comparison like just do all you like but reviewer would not know who made which one and at the end choose the best one, that would be a bit more dope you know.
Definitely recommend this video to anyone that has an interest to RUclips, content, editing etc. I was this close 🤏🏼 to spending on equipment when in reality I just should try to use whatever I own and just adapt to it. Sharpening ones skill can make a big difference! Thank you 🙏🏼!
There are also free video editing software like Da Vinci Resolve that can give you some pro features
Next rematch: (in studio) beginner with professional video lights and accessories vs. pro with household items
@Parker walbeck YES do this !
Tamás Győrfi Yes
Thats ganna be fun
Waiting for this video
Hope they will make one.
Halogen work lamp throwback!
Jake's edit is outstanding in terms of sound design. He did really great!
Man, that iMovie trailer was AMAZING (to me)
People: iMovie is just as good as premiere!
Ok then render motion blur.
iMovie users: umm I wasn’t expecting that question 😬
Fr XD
iMovie : What's render
ikr bro like ain’t nobody can me a paid vfx editor for fortnite on iMovie idc what u say
Diego Henesy I use iMovie coz I’m not rich enough to spend on adobes apps and FCP ... although i would choose FCP because $300 for 2 years is significantly less than $800 for 2 years.. But , If I’m on PC , I would choose Adobe
I learnt premier in school
And use I movie rn to edit my vids.......
I is waaaaayy worse in terms of stuff available
Josh has improved - Premiere can be intimidating for beginners so well done. Jake with the experience did good with the color grading to make it look cinematic. London - I was blown away. The transitions, sound design, and video pace really make a huge difference.
Where can I find transitions and sound design effects?
The actors for ghost longboards be mongo pushing!
lol
OMG and mall grabbing kill me now
I noticed that and the mall grabbing and I just want to slap them
Ghost longboards in general just hurts me. It breaks, if it doesn't it flexed too much, so say goodbye to shuv it's or anything elke rly. And there's no griptape, so if it starts raining you literally can't get home on it, and even when it's dry, when going even slightly fast these things will get u in a hospital.
I noticed immediately
Imovie dude... IMOVIE! That was the most badass smile from Jake I've ever seen.
the problem was the footage, both riders pushing mongo lmao. Hard to promote a product with people who don't know how to use it
True but Jimmy hendrix played guitar differently to the conventional method and hooked his thumb over to play cords and he was a king. That being said, these kids did nothing to validate or justify pushing mongo style
@@preformingmonkey tru there are pro skaters who push mongo but its pretty clear these kids cant ride well, which kind of makes the base footage look bad in my opinion
@@fringetravel I suppose these boards aren't designed for tricks really though so mongo is aiit
@Manuel Keiser yes
@@fringetravel no pro pushes mongo, unless he's riding switch, but even then it's pretty rare
There's 2 ways to look at the results:
The first would be based on engagement which the iMovie is better for.
The second would be looking at the cinematic side and just enjoying everything on screen which Premiere Pro kills it.
I personally prefer the Premiere Pro version because it's visually pleasing and keeps my attention on the skateboards which is what you are trying to sell, I know what a skateboard sounds like and I know what traffic sounds like but if I went skateboarding it would be for the joy and enjoying the environment
I like the soft colors on the first one, should matched brightness on some shots though and the building shots where too long and malplaced. And the soft vibe with just music was fine too.
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I just realised How immersive the video becames with the Sound design ....
and The last Edit 🔥
Conclusion: it doesn’t matter what software you use (unless it doesn’t have all you need to make a good edit in your style), it is mostly about the experience of the editor
Premiere’s scale for the timeline is such a pain in the ass..
So I'm not the only one who struggles with it...
I do like the blocky style timeline tho. Makes it more solid to look.
I love the idea behind this video, it definitely inspired me to be more creative with what I have and not feel limited by the equipment I have.
You should do a “make it interesting” contest (Or whatever you wanna call it). Landon gives you a spot/location and you both have the same camera but you find different angles to make that subject or location the most interesting and appealing
I used to edit on iMovie, and I used it to its fullest capabilities. I switched to Premiere Pro, and man, its so much better in terms of capabilities. But really, it boils down to this. Editing software isn't what makes an editor good, but its experience. Editing software merely enhances what the editor can do, not change them.
I would love to see a comparisons where the person reviewing the outcome not knowing which person made which. Otherwise this series will just be the new guy getting dumped on every episode. thx
true true...
Next:
Beginner shoots an interview in great lighting conditions and Pro Shoots an interview with just a 10$ ring light.
It’s all about the vision and the skills to be able to transmit that feeling to the audience! Like the guy perfectly did in I Movie it was all about the kids ride, not the longboards ! Story telling perfect!
Beginner: Lamborgini VS Pro: Toyota Prius Race!
how bout Tesla vs anything...
Lmao
ultra instinct vs base broly😂
So...your average tourist day at the Nürburgring? Or, if you swap "Miata" for "Prius" most casual track days. lol.
what a dumb comment
As a video editor, I've been waiting for this type of video for a while, especially since I once had to edit videos on iMovie instead of Premiere!
It would've been nice to showcase a bit more workflow differences each person faced, such as how you organize material with libraries on iMovie vs bins in Premiere, and the way each software saves projects differently, but I'm happy with how this has turned out.
I would be totally interested to see the inner workings of the editing process rather than just the final video
I’m 15 and have been using filmora for about 3 years with my phone on a gimbal, and a mavic, I think you just need to know what to film and how to tell the story editing, I have mediocre equipment and software and I think it still produces good results
Wait mobile editing?
@@LaVaZ000 I do mobile editing because I don’t have a computer that can run editing software lmao
"beginner"
> Has been using the software for three solid months
"Pro"
> Hasn't touched the software for years
He haven't "touch" iMovie recently not premiere pro
I just made a roughly 30-hour long video in iMovie. I had to bust it up into 3 parts to get it onto RUclips under this channel. I did the entire thing in iMovie on a lightweight Macbook Air. If you want to know what that did to the video and how it turned out, continue reading. This way you can see what the final product on a serious attempt from somebody who is a total beginner at all video editing.
Before we get into this, I have a very limited budget and basically no tools to video edit except iMovie. That is why I used it.
I knew very little to none going into this project about how to use iMovie. I basically could get things into the timeline and bump them up against each other. I did not even know how to add transitions between the video clips when I started. I learned a ton along the way.
This thing is in fact 30 hours long. It is actually just shy of 30 hours at 29 hours and 40 some minutes. It ended up being just under 100GB in file size at around 98.5GB. (And that was only at 720p. I decided not to push my luck too far. 1080p would have been 300+GB for the record.) For context, it is an entire playthrough, from start to finish, of a video game called The Last of Us Part II, although that is not important to the comment. Just know that it is so long because I wanted to include everything for the whole experience, not the edited down version that a ton of other creators had made already.
iMovie handled the entirety of the 30 hours of video amazingly well while editing. It did not lag. It starts up quickly and loads the videos into the timeline in under 15 seconds or so despite the extensive video. It did not matter if I was set up for editing 1080p or 720p as it seems iMovie treats the video file at its best possible quality while editing and reduces it only when you export. However, I should note that I wasn't looking for much editing such as color correction or grading, sound editing, or anything in that regard. I was mainly using it to seamlessly stitch together a ton of shorter clips into one massive video. For this, I had absolutely no troubles once I learned a few tricks on how to zoom in on the timeline and whatnot for more accurate trimming. So editing went great.
Later on, I discovered that iMovie cannot currently export more than 24 hours worth of footage. It collects the time past 24 hours and only uses that amount of time from the start of the video. For example, a video is 26 hours long. It will only export the first 2 hours of your video. If it is 28 hours long, the first 4 hours will be exported. Anything up to 23 hours and 59 minutes will ~theoretically~ be fine.
I say theoretically because I was having an extremely difficult time even getting this long of a video exported. iMovie can only handle exporting maybe 7 hours of video without hanging indefinitely, at least on my computer. This is where iMovie is extremely lacking in my experience. In fact, 7 hours was really pushing it.
After multiple weeks of head scratching and countless failed attempts at exports, I, at last, got everything out of iMovie by breaking them down into sections of 2-4 hours of video. From there, I tried a ton of apps to recombine them post export. None of them worked. Anything over 24 hours crashes every program (not my computer, the program itself stops responding or hangs indefinitely). Then I found that QuickTime Player can be used to recombine all the individual clips. I gave it a shot. QuickTime Player amazingly pulled it off but deleted the audio due to the .mov file format. It actually did not delete the audio, only made it unusable. I know this as a long time later I compressed the file using an open source app called HandBrake into a .mp4 file for RUclips and the sound showed back up. So, apparently, .mov format, which iMovie uses by default, has issues with sound over a certain time.
So, to summarize, if you ignore the limited timing on the export of files, you can edit in iMovie even with massive files without trouble. The export is what gets you. Now, if you are editing a normal length video of around an hour or less, then iMovie should do you just fine.
There was also a very frustrating issue with uploading to RUclips, but that does not matter for this comment. Just know I did succeed in getting them up on RUclips at 720p. (RUclips wouldn't accept any larger quality due to file size.) You can find all three of them on my channel named as "The Last of Us Part II Survival + Complete Playthrough Part #" Where the # is 1, 2, or 3 with respect to chronological time. If you want to check that out, head on over.
Guy with all the Adobe apps: "guys I can explain"
Guy with Ae and Pr: "why can't we use your profile? You don't even use Photoshop"
Guy with just Pr: "How do you even have enough for all that, your bills must be in the 5 digits"
People with a brain: *"You guys are paying for Adobe products?"*
Yarrr matey
lol i have a hacked version of photoshop cc
You should be ashamed
@@mcafee524 lol why
@@mooderfall piracy is dishonorable.
God dayummm Intro is so cinematic!! 😱❤️
Language.
iMovie is a blessing and you can’t change my mind
As the owner of the longboard company, Mongo is the only edit i can see
Each I doubt you are
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Mall grabbing too
yeah i was hoping someone would call this out
The only thing wich makes this not professionell is that you can see that the longboarders dont skate for a long time bc they mongo push 🤦♂️
And mall grab the board😭🤦♂️
@@knextdoesfishing 😂
i was looking for this comment😂🤦♂️
And mall grab lmao
Super impressed with Josh’s improvement from last time and Jake’s ability to make something so sick from iMovie. Love these videos!
In my editing class my professor out right said the benefit of iMovie is that it does a lot of the editing for you.
true that
Great job
شادي تقني Shadi Tech hi verified
@@TheSpoon yesh
@@justkevin_16 why from Indonesia
@@justkevin_16 Anjir jan malu maluin brok
@ヅKero he is a muslim thats y
I watched this
Who are you
zuhn shouldn't you be bhopping or sum shit
Cheater lol
@@Exfinity yeah bhop scripting
Ok boomer. 👊🏻
It’s not the tool that makes the product, it’s the artist. If the artist knows what they’re doing they can work with any tools given to them
Most sensible comment here. Talent, imagination, experience, vision are things you cannot teach in a classroom. Jake's edit was night and day,
U could've paid me 5$ to at least look like I can ride a board
It hurts their riding mongo
watching them ride was so painful
@5:08 look at how they hold the board 😭
@@jukedaily7496 poser grab nooooo
@@jukedaily7496 atleast they get paid lol
Another thing that I noticed about Josh's edit is that from 4:41 to 4:52 there is nothing but B-roll. That's around 11 seconds of B-roll in the middle of a video about two fellows skating around the city. This really pulls you away from the subject your supposed to be focused on.
THIS TUTORIAL REALLY WORKS I AM FROM PHILIPPINES! THIS MAN DESERVES A SUBSCRIPTION!
Fun fact: This was edited on premiere pro
Most film editors can go back and forth between which is "best" Final Cut Pro (the step up from IMOVIE and arguably the best comparison tool, or Adobe Premiere. I'll remind everyone here that once you commit to Adobe you have committed to a never-ending cost. Those of you who are students can get the complete Final Cut Pro plus MANY add ons for one price forever-$200! There is NO comparison in terms of cost. For the vast majority, if you have a Mac computer Final Cut Pro is the editing tool to get.
I agree I'll also recommend davinci resolve the free version is a beast one of the most organized video editing software out there
was about to pay all 300 ur a legend thank u
I couldn’t agree more. Also FCP X is more user friendly too and doesn’t seem to crash on people’s computers the way Premiere does (as I saw a lot of people on FB talking about the issues with Premiere Pro 2020). Lol!
Strange X more stable than premiere and probably all around better for me
aren't most film editors using avid?
Proof that a good editor can edit on anything.
then pro must edit on own leg
Josh's Edit: Go Pro Hero 3
Jake's Edit: Sony A7SII
Landon's Edit: RED Monstro 8K
DaVinci Resolve can do almost anything Adobe software can do and is free. If you are just getting into editing try that instead of iMovie
Yes but davinci needs a decent pc to run
Can we appreciate Landon's video guys! That was Insane!
Landon: films longboard commercial
model: pushes mongo
me: le sigh
Thank god i wasnt the only one to notice that
and the mall grab, but ig they're using longboards so it's not as bad
I would personally think the video would be better if they could actually skate. No hate, but the mongo pushing defeats the purpose and makes the brand look like they don't know how to choose the proper people to represent them
@@sean6269 can't hate on the mall grab personally, idk how tf else to carry a longboard haha
So no one is going to point out how entertaining Jake's acting is? 😅😅
The quality of this video is next level
They call someone been using premiere pro for a month a beginner, while me here is hoping to learn for 1 week
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Using it for a year is a beginner lol
This video is pain for skateboarders. If you get it, you get it
I cringed the whole video
Could you explain this to me?
Oh yeah iMovie! my first ever video editing app that I have used before upgrading to final cut pro, I really loved that app. I still remember how some visual effects can be done using iMovie like cloning, green screen, adding special effects and even doing some hologram screen effect.
Is nobody talking about how landon’s last name is “by the way”.
Bob mortimer- castle Douglas reference, maybe?? His story rings true now
@@BlutmagierAMVs36 i was thinking same. You made me feel happy 😁
@@cheekypotato6720 Sgt. Bytheway!
Lol I thought it was just a stage name...until I realized that was his name
Jake's edit was my favorite. I feel like it was a nice balance between Josh's and Landon's. Josh's felt like a slower paced indie movie and Landon's felt a little too "youtuber" for me with the slow mo, speed ramping, and transition effects. Jake's sound design felt more real while Landon's felt really stylized. Landon's would be good for social media but I think Jake's is overall the best.
the last one was sooo gooood holy crap!
sick video man!
Me watching this while living in Utah:
*Leonardo DiCaprio pointing.jpg
Beginner with expensive film lights vs Pro with DIY home lamps would be GREAT!
the amount of shots in the first minute is amazing
My opinion as a complete amateur:
First one: "I guess not bad for a beginner? looks nice"
Second one: Simply made me wonder what it is. No idea, but I guess that's what commercial is.
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Not gonna lie, Landon's edit literally gave me goosebumps.
Damn, Landon killed it. I couldn’t do as well using any software that’s for sure, so good job to all of you.
I’m in a film class and we just finished learning on how to use premier we are currently on photoshop and after affects
Ha......film class.
Im a current film student HAHAHAHHAA
They got longboard They mongol push and also They hold the Longboard by trucks. Sorry but as a skater i can't watch this video.
Lmao fr bro, that made me cringe so hard
Saaaame lol i was so stressed by this especially bc its a longboard shop
Bro stop hating it’s just how people get used to use their boards 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@StrixVFX it’s not hating it’s criticizing the output of how they advertised the product. clearly the models are not good skaters as i observe from the comments, so for actual skaters its not selling for them.
the main point was about the editing... its not that deep, they can film about shit, and people would still complain why the shape of the shit is like ice cream.. sheesshh
Josh will be a BEAST in the next years to come damn!
Nice. You need to do some visual effects challenges in After Effects!!
Been using Sony Vegas for around 5 years and people always ask me to help them with editing on other softwares I feel like people don’t understand that I’m just dumb when it comes to other softwares 😂
Yeah vegas and premiere are extremely different trying to specialize in both is really hard
Remember people you can edit professionally with iMovie it just takes time.
Is the judge allowed to take the win on this? Lol c:
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Amen ❤ 🙏
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Listen.. ive been skateboarding for well over 15+ years. The two things skaters dont wanna see is maul grabbing and mongo pushing bc in the long run it messes up balance. I think we should all remember to study what ever we are filming for. Myself included! Not to be negative either, i just know that its best to learn ftom others mistakes 😁 GREAT VIDEO!!!!!! Its inspiring af
Not gonna lie absolutely loved landons edit!
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