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I've never heard anybody talk about any Chinese space ship and or rocket and also spread "anti China propaganda" but I sure have seen the other way around
What, you guys don't work on all of your super sensitive space electronics on a bumpy highspeed train, jostling you and your shit from side to side up and down...? Well why the hell not?! What the hell is wrong with you?! haha =/
@@ScumfuckMcDoucheface It’s supposed to survive crashing into the surface of Mars, if the train damaged it in any way then it wouldn’t have been useful anyways.
Hats off to China's team and double that for having the forethought to bring an extra camera for a group photo. The selfies we take are cool and all, but nothing beats an honest group shot.
It's so sad that these neat little robots have been made with such a short life expectancy. A good solar panel and battery should give them a longer chance to explore
Its pretty impressive that they came out of nowhere and pulled it off ..and no one is really talking about or giving credit . I applaud the achievement .
@@walkingdeadman4208 But they are the first to send all three modules (lander, orbiter and rover) in one go and succeeded on the first try which is quite impressive.
Credit where it is due, China has done an amazing job with their Mars mission. Being from the UK can you have a word with the Chinese please Scott and see if you can convince them to scoot over to Beagle and open its solar panels so we can get it operational 😉
Also from the UK - it's just unbelievable to discover that Beagle worked after all. It was so disappointing when it just disappeared like that - everyone assuming that our 'silly little craft' had crashed. But now we find out that it landed ok and started deploying it's solar panels. Such a pity the guy who masterminded the mission died not knowing he'd almost succeeded.
@@administratorshan Hiroshima and Nagasaki was NOT EVEN REMOTELY a genocide. You're a dishonest person, not surprising considering you are defending a regime who enslaves Muslims in work camps and erases Muslim culture.
*I'm a retired guy from the USA living in Thailand and I can tell you that selfies count as the most important scientific data of anything worth traveling to* It's an asian travel thing :D
so all the images from it are going to have it in front of whatever its looking at.. typical aisian.. ''theres me infront of a spaqce ship,'' '' theres me infront of an alien building''.. ect.e ct.ecte.c.t..i have a chinese mate called hooflungdung..mi...its amazing how they send a rover to mars,,no hassles,,but cant contain a known virus in a lab.. scam..biden..
A retired American in Thailand judges a scientific mission to Mars only by what he sees on a RUclips channel and his observations in Asia. That sounds so real LOL
@@mellowmonsoon278 Yes, I think that's funny too! Oh wait, I have to stop typing so my thai wife can take a selfie of us while I'm commenting on martian selfies.
It's too bad that the Zhurong didn't land close enough to Viking so it could inspect it. It would be really interesting to see how it looks after all these years.
Curioscity Send photos back 200 per day ...but Jurong, since saying that it's been on Mars for 3 months, it's still difficult to find a picture to make medicine...
I think the Vikings landed in a pretty rocky area. I don’t think that was the intent but a result of the limits of the resolution of the camera on the orbiter used to scout a safe location. As Scot points out that they chose the area they did because of its levelness.
@@marrs1013 aye, however China tend not allow any live broadcast in case of failure. Just thinking about the UK's Beagle live coverage gives me PTSD ...
So interesting how China approaches this so cautiously and differently from NASA. Easy landing spot, black box in case of failure, selfie cameras for PR, and taking the time to inspect things. Considering this is their first landing I think it's 100% the right way to do it but interesting to see how newer space exploration programs do things differently.
IMO it's because of the Eastern culture of face. A mishap would be a real blemish on the CNSA with possible negative consequences to their funding. So a more conservative approach is used. "Small moves, Ellie. Small moves."
Really? You need to research NASA's approach to space exploration. First attempts at Mars were the same. And with technology WE developed, not stolen from other countries.
@@Hellojsm8823 the best way to be risk free is to copy the American Rover that’s already proven to work. That’s why China’s copied rover works, it’s American technology.
The first Chinese marsokhod doing pretty much the same as the last American one. It's, like, wth, 'muricans, after all these years of marsokhoding you are beaten by the very first competition attempt?
Triple success ( orbiter, lander, rover ) at their first attempt (while Europe failed twice as to landing). The Chinese are really ambitious and showed all their skill.
I was shocked when I saw that video of the lander rolling on the surface. I've been waiting for that kind of video fidelity coming from Mars since the first rover landing!
Very intrigued by the hole dug by the lander engine. That’s gotta be like the most soil moved by a Mars mission yet. Wonder if they have a camera that could examine it?
@AAA AAA They plan to have small engines on the sides of Starship near the top, kind of like the ones on Dragon, for the early landings. After a few missions they hope to have a landing pad built for later landings
I'm not being critical or negative about the Chinese rover on Mars. In fact, I applaud their accomplishment. They added features to their rover that JPL had not thought of, or had the technology to implement at the time with 'Perserverence'. It just shows how the exploration of Space is meant to be a global endeavor, and not a competition.
@@myyklmax 50% true, at best. I used to work for the California legislature. Do NOT let your daughter date a politician. They are not normal people, in most cases.
I hope this prompts the US to increase NASA's shoestring budget into something usable. #FundNASA Fun fact: During the Apollo era, NASA's budget was about 4% of the full US budget, and most of it was focused on space exploration. Nowadays it is less than 0,5% and most of it is dedicated to maintenance.
4% is actually crazy. even curent one is a dream for other nations and could be much more efficient if not for chain of overpricing and barely competent contractors like boing
Would love to hear a flat-earther try and explain why the Chinese scientists and engineers are cooperating with NASA to perpetuate the "globe earth conspiracy". On second thought, I don't think I have time for that level of crazy.
Something like this requires a new breed of cynical and bitter anti-reality morons: the Flat Mars-ers! Remember: "Nothing can escape the Firmament, but things like asteroids, meteors, space debris, and billionaire space tourists punch holes through it all the time!"
No. You really wouldn't. It's just painful. In fact, I can see a comment 2 more from yours in the timeline from a Bob Robert that is typical. He said "lol they faked it ..."
Scott, since the Chinese lander's rocket blasted a hole in the landing site, does this make you think that Musk's Starship can't land on Mars without a prepared concrete slab to land on?
You hear talk about Mars landers having landing motors up high on the ship so not to blast the surface so much ...........This is all a work in progress..........
Do we have any data on the landing weight of the Chinese lander and the diameter / depth of the hole? Based on the weight of the lander / retro thrust requirements, is there any way to reliably predict the hole that might be excavated by the Starship landing raptors? Maybe higher mounted lunar landing system would work here as well.
I'd say China certainly gets second place for having a SUCCESSFUL landing on Mars. Also Scott I remind you that the ESA also sent a probe to land on Mars that also crashed.
They may only have a second for mars, but when it comes to crushing dissent and persecutions they're number 1. I feel conflicted enjoying the fruits of such an evil regime.
For some reason, I only now got amazed by the fact, that Mars exists in pretty much same category of celestial bodies as Earth Everything we've witnessed here on Earth is totally applicable on those insanely remote landscapes, on some other space rock, formed from magma billions years ago
@@Justin-C I think he meant that physics work the same there. Which is sort off expected as those rules are pretty much UNIVERSal. The only know exceptions are black holes and the inside of stars/novas. Aside from that they all work, you just need to adjust for Mars atmosphere and gravity.
And not only that but we have a small helicopter there that flys around on its own on a completely different rock millions a miles away from our own rock. Crazy times, I wonder what another 50 years of technological advancement will look like from us humans. Also, it's crazy to think our own galaxy would take 50,000 light years to get out of and there are billions of galaxy's in the universe. You can't tell me there are no other intelligent lifeforms out there somewhere...
Great observation. I so agree. I think this line of thought can be applied to the universe. Water here, water there, water way over there. Life here, life (was) there, life (was) way over there. The thought that our planet and our life was, is, universally unique--some kind of flaw--is really absurd. My other thought is, it is possible--a tragic hint--that civilizations kill themselves, which is why we don't see other signs of extraterrestrial activity.
@@crazyjohnhoward The only science the Chinese are concerned with is the science of power and ruination. Read the history of communism, buddy boy. Millions dead. And it continues today. I wish China nothing but bad fortune.
Tianwen天问: it literally means looking for answers in the sky. From a great thinker 2000 years ago. He is also the mourner of the Dragon Boat Festival, a traditional Chinese festival. His name is Qu Yuan屈原
Zhu Rong is the name of the god of fire in very ancient chinese mythology, and “Huo Xing”(火星) literally means "Fire Planet" or "Fire Star"(since ancient didn't distinguish from planets and stars) .
I really appreciate that you're able to discuss missions like this in such an unbiased way. It's difficult to find anyone with decent science chops who doesn't just berate projects like this from places like China, Russia and India.
@B J Yes. We spent 450,000 American lives. German scientists had option of surrendering to USA or Soviet forces. Who would you surrender to? We knew the Soviets were the enemy. To let this expertise go to waste would be ludicrous. We stole nothing. We paid for it with those American lives. Now go back to your cartoons.
Beagle2 seems to have landed in a small ditch, I wonder if it's failure was simply a software issue, AKA "wait for solar panels to fully open... next instruction". If it's in a small ditch and the panels couldn't fully extend then it may simply be stuck in an endless wait statement. Just a random thought.
After it couldn’t open the panels, and being in a wait state, I’m sure the batteries went dead and it just shut down. If someone walked over to it and opened the panels, it might charge the batteries back up, and pick up where it left off? The latest NASA rover has a nuclear battery! Does not depend on solar panels at all. It’s probably far more expensive, but has to be much more dependable.
@@alphagt62 Nope - it gets so cold on Mars at night that no battery electrochemistry can recover without being recharged before it reaches zero charge for more than a week or two (nuclear power is effectively a generator, not a battery). That was the fate of Opportunity after over about six weeks of dust storm induced darkness.
It just needs a little jump start, you'll see. When Large Friendly Moggie goes up to Mars it will give Beagal a cuddle and a decent charge and pehaps a nice blanket and in a few days old Beagal will be out of the ditch and sniffing around like a good doggy!
I don't use Kerbal Space Program. I use HERBAL Space Program. It makes me feel as if I'm really flying. We rocket scientists have to experiment with exotic chemicals but you can't buy them in Walmart.
There is a word that stuck in my mind when my engineer cousin make a joke: "When engineer are bored, they will try something crazy without a second thought" He is a fan of Michael Reeves too.
No fellows, you're all wrong, however, we can always improve. In the 50's you stuck a fudgesicle in your kid's mouth and stuck him in front of the TV to watch Howdy Doody, while you bang the milkman. Now we use STEM that way. STEM for everyone. STEM for girls! STEM for at risk youth! Let's pat ourselves on the back! We've reduced the equation! Instead of Arts & Sciences now we just have the Sciences! It's like nobody remembers Jeff Goldblum's speeches in Jurassic Park. It's like everyone's forgotten the panic in engineering when people started using the TRS-80? These white males were certain it was the end of science? So, in 20 years what percent of current STEM studies will be performed by humans. Let me just throw out a guess...uh zero. And since we won't have anyone who has a background in the Arts we won't be able to direct the robots very well, and the robots will have already figured that out, it will be SKYNET. This whole putting all our eggs in the STEM basket will make the SKYNET scenario unavoidable. Ahnald might say, "Yah, STEM stands for Self Terminating Educational Model. Yah..."
As a 75 year old who has followed science fiction since her teens, the amazing journeys our world is making in space, thrills my heart and soul! even more so that countries seem to be trying to work together and that's going to make the difference in information gathering and progress forward like this video. Thanks so much for sharing.
[[[even more so that countries seem to be trying to work together]]] -- Russia will turn off the engines of the International space station within 12 months, and the US had the law to ban NASA make a phone call to China.
@@TomDrez COPY: Russia will pull out of the International Space Station, space agency chief confirms News By Tom Metcalfe published May 02, 2022 "The decision has already been made, we are not obliged to talk about it publicly," Roscosmos chief said. Cosmonauts (from left) Denis Matveev and Oleg Artemyev worked outside the International Space Station's Russian segment for 6 hours and 37 minutes outfitting Nauka and configuring the European robotic arm in April 2022. Cosmonauts (from left) Denis Matveev and Oleg Artemyev worked outside the International Space Station's Russian segment for 6 hours and 37 minutes outfitting Nauka and configuring the European robotic arm in April 2022. (Image credit: NASA) Russia has confirmed it will pull out of the International Space Station (ISS), perhaps as soon as two years from now, because of the sanctions imposed on it after its invasion of Ukraine, according to news reports. "The decision has already been made, we are not obliged to talk about it publicly," Dmitry Rogozin, the director-general of the federal Roscosmos space agency, told the state-owned Rossiya-24 TV channel on Saturday (April 30), according to the independent Russian news agency TASS. Rogozin didn't say when Russia's involvement in the ISS project will come to an end, although he affirmed it would give at least a year's notice "in accordance with our obligations."
@@jonathanbowen3640 As much of an enemy as China as a whole is, I wouldn't demonize the Chinese spaceflight and aeronautics field in specific. We're all trying to reach one common goal. I like to separate governments and scientists as they are almost never the same.
Thanks Scott! I'm from China and a fan of your channel. Great content as always. It is not easy to come this far for my country and I hope human race can work together to go further in spaceflight cooperation.
so, China decided to use a version of passive thermal management on their vehicle. good thinking on their part, because it's simple and won't break down easily.
@@vulcanodong The main reason for the RTG (which I assume you're talking about) is to generate power without relying on the sun. Any thermal use is a by-product. And I wonder how much the passive approach weighed compared to other active measures. Not saying it's a bad choice. But, there are tradeoffs.
@@aviatorjoe4153 From what Scott saide, seems to me it's made from oil-derived products, so it must be much lighter than water for the same volume. Plutonium and other radioactive metals are much heavier per volume - though they'd generate a lot of heat whilst using much less volume... so it'll be interesting once the mission ends to get all the data and thus be able to make an educated decision about which is best in which case. As you said, tradeoffs in everything
@@JosePineda-cy6om Well wait, I would think that, given that it's purpose is to store heat, that it would be on the denser portion of the petroleum product scale, so it may not be as light as you think. And again, it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison because the RTG's main purpose is power generation. It has two functions. It's not that it isn't a clever idea, it is, but we're not able to say it's better than using the excess heat from an RTG for thermal control because of the dual use of the RTG
One more little factoid; the camera they used to take the pictures used Wi-Fi to send the pictures back to the rover. And you thought your Wi-Fi was bad.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 only china can stop people buying chinese manufactured stuff, only when its citizens quality of life increase and demand higher wages
Beagle 2 was the lander for the European Space Agency's (ESA) Mars Express mission. It was developed and constructed under the leadership of British universities. Beagle 2 had undocked from its mother probe on December 19, 2003, and probably landed on the surface of Mars after a five-day flight during the night of December 24-25, 2003. Since no radio contact could be made with the probe, it was declared lost on February 11, 2004. It was only after more than eleven years that it could be clearly identified from images taken from Mars orbit.
I think they will realize (from analysis or the first flight) that the hot gas thrusters located high off the ground level will be needed for Mars. Same ones planned for HLS. Mars-g might require more thrust or cutting the Raptor engines closer to the surface.
@Pronto that would be amazing, especially if they also take into account that the crater might be buried after a dust storm. then they would have a half buried living hab with underground shelter/storage. and they may not even need a crane like HLS to reach the surface.
U.S. banned China from ISS and ordered NASA NOT to cooperate with China in 2011. EU will probably follow along as they receive their orders from Washington. So if there's no cooperation -- you know who to blame.
All that extensive science and engineering to keep the rover safe on entry just to stick the landing and than says: *"We did it!! Now where should we go from here?"* ~ *"idk, that big hill over there looks interesting"*
I was really worried about Tianwen-1 and Zhurong, since they were China's first attempt and Mars has historically been unkind to spacecraft. It's great to see them knock it out of the park! Go, Mars Bots!
The engineering camera view, starting at 7:28, is a stereogram. That means, if you can bear to do it, cross your eyes so your right eye looks at the left image and your left eye looks at the right image. This gives you binocular vision for depth perception. (What is sometimes called 3D vision.) What a great idea, China Space Engineers.
i wish science was not politicized. having said that, it is staggering what china is accomplishing since being 'banned'/ostracized by nasa/esa/jaxa (and their govts) only about 10 years ago, from its rover on the dark side of the moon, to its successful rover landing on mars (on its first try i believe, which itself was a great feat) and to its humble small but effective space station. i believe the best is possible when space agencies collaborate - but if china is not allowed to do that, i'm sure she'll find her own ways to achieve its goals/missions.
well, more coverage would contradict the narrative that chinese space program is secretive and militaristic. in reality, the future plans and even live cast launches are all over the chinese language media. yet the western "journalists" and media are busy looking for non-existent concentration camps and genocide in china. other "stuff" that doesn't conform to the western ideology and stereotype of china is deemed not news worthy to the free and unbiased western media. lol
@@catbertevil750 Ok ok relax with your "West is Evil" theory. I have been following plenty of Chinese international social media sites, they love reporting how wonderful and amazing China is unlike any other country yet they constantly repoerted negative news from the west with very barely any negative news coming from China. So don't talk like Chinese media isn't biased either. There are bad journalists on both sides. Talking about the lander. Even if there is a lot of coverage in China like you said, huge difficulty is also information available in Chinese only. China should publish more research and science reports in English, international language if they want to show their advancements.
@@JackieWelles I am quite relaxed and currently resides in the states despite you preconceived notion. lol there are plenty of media reporting bad things about china, true or completely false, including chinese language ones. western media, however, rarely report anything positive about china. at very least, china's media don't make up facts about the west. they might interpret things incorrectly but facts wise check out, not the same thing can be said about the western media. whose responsibility do you think it is to understand chinese? china never asks the west to translate everything into chinese. the point is china never said the west is secretive on their space programs only because there's a lack of chinese language translation of the western programs.
The weird thing I find about images from the surface of Mars is that it looks so much like some parts of the Namib desert. There are identifiable geological features like dunes, exposed sedimentary rocks, drainage and so on... I have to keep remind myself unlike the Namib; it is bitterly cold; somehow even dryer; there's almost no air (and what there is would kill you) - but you would get much the same suntan.
Just to send a craft to Mars is just too incredible, sending pictures and capturing images is just mind boggling and beyond lay men comprehension. Simply amazing, beyond words
Around 4:30. Does the single engine on the lander gimble? If so, that could explain the interesting burn pattern. Perhaps, the single engine gimbled one way and then another - perpendicular to descent. IDK.
@@confuded Agree. Also, they have attitude thrusters in those directions, why not use those? Also, what kind of mechanics did they use to ensure absolute stability in one axis and insane instability to warrant that much gimbal in another? 🤣 Had to agree with last point although I think mechjeb can play golf with a KS-25.
I thought so too in the beginning, but after all that doesn't sound like a good explanation because the lighter appearance occurs in two disconnected areas. Would imply the engine gimbaled to one side, then turned off and gimbaled to the other side and turned on again :D
@@u1zha but, you forget the 4 thrusters at 90 degrees. the gimbaling engine would probably work on slowing descent for landing and produce significant burn pattern. We don't know yet.
I didn't know Beagle-2 had soft landed and started to deploy. I remember the news of it being found but I thought they found a crash site. It's a pity Prof Pillinger isn't around to see that. He was told: you must put retro-rockets on it or it will smash on landing, but he chose to use the weight for more science stuff and rely on the parachute and airbags. Turns out he was at least half right, although maybe the jolt of landing was just slightly too hard.
7:41 "Cameras are so much cheaper" ? I am certain there is another reason other than cost as to why they did not install cameras to observe the parachutes. The cost of any camera for any Mars mission would be miniscule in comparison to the total cost.
@fuckyoutubepolicy staff I kown that, what I mean is "Tianwen-1 Remote Camera, secondary Payload deployed on 1 June 2021 that took photos of and tested a wireless connection with Zhurong rover like the deployable camera did with orbiter. Its mission was to take a group selfie of the Zhurong rover and the Tianwen-1 lander.[69] The photo was released on 11 June 2021, confirming their Martian landing success".USA is great, but you didn't do this.
I'm always amazed how space exploration can be designed on earth to work flawlessly on another planet. Can you imagine if the brains of USA, China, Russia, Germany all came together for the common good how far advanced humankind would be by now?
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Who are they? Any credible source? As far as I know Chinese government has "No nuclear strike threaten one non-nuclear country" policy which hasn't been abandoned yet.
Scott, thank you for this information. And congratulations China on this success. In times where we look to find fault in anyone for some reason, this is fantastic science and deserves recognition for the data acquired so far. As a planet we should be proud of this as a step to our exploration of space. But then again, I am just a dreamer.
The camera dropped off and Beagle stepping back to take selfie’s - so cool. I hope the Chinese keep learning and sharing to us all -a nice bit of kit and congratulations
Could it be possible the pattern on the surface is indeed caused by a bi-directional exhaust in order to ensure no chunks of rock would be thrown in the direction of the ramp deployment?
I definitely have to give props to China for doing an Amazing job. Very impressive. Shows that China's becoming a force to be reconed with when it comes to space exploration. Hopefully we can work together again to get first humans on mars
I’m wondering the implications of several parachutes left on mars. What if they come loose at so point and even though very minimal chance what if one hits one of the rovers? Kind of like space debris around the earth.
Thanks Scott, very interesting. Could you do something on the changes to Starship's fins please? I watched a couple of 'explanations', but am none the wiser! Cheers.
hey man the channel Marcus House does a great weekly video about Starship and it's progress, it seems to me they detailed the heat protection and wings in one of the episodes in the last 3 weeks or so... IMHO it's worth watching either way... hope this helps =)
@@scottmanley Hey Scott, big fan BTW, and I love it anytime you say "muun"! Please remember that there are many OG's out here who still do not do Twittering or FaceBooking. But, we will do RUclips, just saying.. And yes, I actively choose to keep my social media footprint to a minimum. Thanks for all that you post here!! Fly safe, & stay thirsty my friend!
Ahhh, Scott! You bring awareness to us what NASA space and other news don't! You always, most of the time anyway, keep it interesting and vital for/to our interest!
U.S. banned China from ISS and ordered NASA NOT to cooperate with China in 2011. EU will probably follow along as they receive their orders from Washington. So if there's no cooperation -- you know who to blame.
Interesting to see the dunes in the craters from above. Indicates an atmosphere. Whereas craters on the moon have no dunes. Hence indicating no atmosphere. Just a purely visual observation, not using any instruments other than pictures.
Fascinating. I haven't paid much attention to these things lately so I didn't know China had landed a rover on Mars. Congrats to them. (P.S: I'm still looking for all that water you mentioned on Mars)
I see a lot of hate and disinformation in the comments, don't let that discourage your enthusiasm in space and your interest in Chinese space projects Scott, let science and engineering be science and engineering, and let hate and disinformation go elsewhere.
Whatever your political beliefs and differences of opinion about nationalities and countries it’s good to see other countries succeeding in space and getting the recognition they deserve for doing so.
No politics.... No"anti China propaganda"!!!A welcome and unbiased presentation of pure science. 🌹
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I've never heard anybody talk about any Chinese space ship and or rocket and also spread "anti China propaganda" but I sure have seen the other way around
China is a totalitarian dictatorship.
@@oscardoesa6607I’m speechless. That has to be the most well thought out, breathtaking, concise and convincing argument I’ve ever seen.
@@oscardoesa6607wtf...
"You can tell how big it is from this picture of a guy working on it on a train" wait, what?
“That’s me running some extra unit tests on the way to work”
Yeah that made me do a double take as well 😂
What, you guys don't work on all of your super sensitive space electronics on a bumpy highspeed train, jostling you and your shit from side to side up and down...? Well why the hell not?! What the hell is wrong with you?! haha =/
well its a secondary module ,i suspect, subcontracted to some institute for extremely low budget if any.
@@ScumfuckMcDoucheface It’s supposed to survive crashing into the surface of Mars, if the train damaged it in any way then it wouldn’t have been useful anyways.
Hats off to China's team and double that for having the forethought to bring an extra camera for a group photo.
The selfies we take are cool and all, but nothing beats an honest group shot.
This is Chinese manufactured CGI. They don't have the technology to go to Mars.
@@Gongolongo Genius, even NASA's engineers are not as smart as you. Dam NASA actually photographed Zhurong.
@@Gongolongo u should be nasa chief team engineer
@@Gongolongo because water isn't wet and the mitochondria is a beanbag made to look like biology i can guarantee that what you're saying is 100% fact.
@@山田健一-u5x You must be a well-known scientist.
As a Dutch, I can confirm that previous seafloors are not that interesting
lol
if you aint dutch, you aint much
Austin powers taught me to never trust the Dutch
Well I have visited Dutchland and I envy you on your bicycle lanes, I wish we had the same.
Good one
"90 day-mission"
Opportunity: "You can do it, buddy."
"What are you in for?"
@@lightcycler4806 noo! dont make me think of the comic :( so sad lol
It's so sad that these neat little robots have been made with such a short life expectancy.
A good solar panel and battery should give them a longer chance to explore
We'll get there to meet them on Mars some day. Distance makes the heart grow fonder, after all.
A 3-hour-tour.
20 minute adventure, in and out.
Its pretty impressive that they came out of nowhere and pulled it off ..and no one is really talking about or giving credit . I applaud the achievement .
@@ClanBez yes, stupid bots
@@ClanBez "The dog may bark but the caravan moves on." - something I notice about Chinese Confucius culture is that they just shrug off and move on.
Its not like they are the first to land on mars
@@walkingdeadman4208 But they are the first to send all three modules (lander, orbiter and rover) in one go and succeeded on the first try which is quite impressive.
The caravan moves on indeed! After first loading itself with stolen cargo.If that rover looks eerily familiar one might ponder why...
Naming their Mars lander ‘Beagle’ is so delightfully British
Mars lander Beagle lands on a planet around Beagle point lol
Corgi or Bulldog would be even more so...
@Cancer McAids ah yes the infamous Darwinian Explorer
British Eagle? Beagle?
This is why I wanted to call my beagle Darwin
Credit where it is due, China has done an amazing job with their Mars mission. Being from the UK can you have a word with the Chinese please Scott and see if you can convince them to scoot over to Beagle and open its solar panels so we can get it operational 😉
China is a genocidal regime.
@@americanpatriot126 so is USA. Remember innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Also from the UK - it's just unbelievable to discover that Beagle worked after all. It was so disappointing when it just disappeared like that - everyone assuming that our 'silly little craft' had crashed. But now we find out that it landed ok and started deploying it's solar panels. Such a pity the guy who masterminded the mission died not knowing he'd almost succeeded.
@@administratorshan Let's not shall we? Every affluent country has done something shameful to get it where it is today.
@@administratorshan Hiroshima and Nagasaki was NOT EVEN REMOTELY a genocide. You're a dishonest person, not surprising considering you are defending a regime who enslaves Muslims in work camps and erases Muslim culture.
*I'm a retired guy from the USA living in Thailand and I can tell you that selfies count as the most important scientific data of anything worth traveling to* It's an asian travel thing :D
so all the images from it are going to have it in front of whatever its looking at.. typical aisian.. ''theres me infront of a spaqce ship,'' '' theres me infront of an alien building''.. ect.e ct.ecte.c.t..i have a chinese mate called hooflungdung..mi...its amazing how they send a rover to mars,,no hassles,,but cant contain a known virus in a lab.. scam..biden..
A retired American in Thailand judges a scientific mission to Mars only by what he sees on a RUclips channel and his observations in Asia. That sounds so real LOL
@@mellowmonsoon278 Yes, I think that's funny too! Oh wait, I have to stop typing so my thai wife can take a selfie of us while I'm commenting on martian selfies.
@@sotalife6230 The nature of your comments are a selfie on yourself
@@mellowmonsoon278 Yes! and also those selfies from Mars certainly drew some attention too! :) Who says science can't be fun aye?
It's too bad that the Zhurong didn't land close enough to Viking so it could inspect it. It would be really interesting to see how it looks after all these years.
Forgive me, but are you serious? Do you realize that the land area of Mars is approx. equal to the land area of the earth?
Curioscity Send photos back 200 per day ...but Jurong, since saying that it's been on Mars for 3 months, it's still difficult to find a picture to make medicine...
@@101supersweet101 One of the Viking landers was also put down in Utopia Planitia. But UP is also pretty big.
I think the Vikings landed in a pretty rocky area. I don’t think that was the intent but a result of the limits of the resolution of the camera on the orbiter used to scout a safe location. As Scot points out that they chose the area they did because of its levelness.
@@101supersweet101 You do know you can choose where to land, we don't just roll the dice and let something land randomly
So they understood the "pics or it didn't happen" :)
We have live footage from the Moon landing recorded on Earth and people still think it was fake.
@@marrs1013 ouch, indeed I forgot about that.
@@christianvanderstap6257 haha just terrible eh? =/
CGI! :P
@@marrs1013 aye, however China tend not allow any live broadcast in case of failure. Just thinking about the UK's Beagle live coverage gives me PTSD ...
So interesting how China approaches this so cautiously and differently from NASA. Easy landing spot, black box in case of failure, selfie cameras for PR, and taking the time to inspect things. Considering this is their first landing I think it's 100% the right way to do it but interesting to see how newer space exploration programs do things differently.
IMO it's because of the Eastern culture of face. A mishap would be a real blemish on the CNSA with possible negative consequences to their funding. So a more conservative approach is used. "Small moves, Ellie. Small moves."
Really? You need to research NASA's approach to space exploration. First attempts at Mars were the same. And with technology WE developed, not stolen from other countries.
We appreciate China for serving the world at affordable cost and encourage them to keep up the progress and advancement.
Yep.China has a budget and Chinese people are usually risk-averse.
@@Hellojsm8823 the best way to be risk free is to copy the American Rover that’s already proven to work. That’s why China’s copied rover works, it’s American technology.
Love the Chinese selfie camera's, thats just ace PR.
The first Chinese marsokhod doing pretty much the same as the last American one. It's, like, wth, 'muricans, after all these years of marsokhoding you are beaten by the very first competition attempt?
@@lake258 Are you pretending they didn't steal the tech? And how is it better exactly? Where is the helicopter?
@@jimmynutrin9815 ah, yes, the famous American psychological self-defence 101 - they've stolen our glorious tech!
@@lake258 Well he's not wrong lol
That is for flat earthers who say that all the pictures of satellites and rovers are just animations and that there are no actual photographs of them😂
Triple success ( orbiter, lander, rover ) at their first attempt (while Europe failed twice as to landing). The Chinese are really ambitious and showed all their skill.
Also, all their 3 moon landings have been successful. Credit where due, their scientists know what they're doing.
Amazing what can happen decades after the space race ended and after stealing as much tech as you can right? So astounding and intelligent.
Well, China spends a reasonable amount money on their space program.
Remind me of how the US and USSR got the tech that started the space race?
The Chinese didn't need to start from scratch but still good effort.
Honestly this turned out a lot cooler than I expected, lots of firsts!
Firsts aren't so difficult on Mars, once you get there.
@@Rampart.X True, but still welcomed
The picture and videos are amazing, hats off to the engineers that pulled that
I was shocked when I saw that video of the lander rolling on the surface. I've been waiting for that kind of video fidelity coming from Mars since the first rover landing!
The pictures and video are all fake buddy.
@@wissingr Like the moon landing?
@@wissingr fine…fake brain you have
@@wissingr So is the person you believe as your father
Very intrigued by the hole dug by the lander engine. That’s gotta be like the most soil moved by a Mars mission yet. Wonder if they have a camera that could examine it?
Insight's mole is like wtf ? whaa ...
Hello!? Anybody down there?!?🧐🤓
US drops a lander from a skycrane for a gentle touchdown. China uses a bruteforce thrust vs. gravity landing and puts a (tiny) hole in Mars.
There seems to be a little hill in the hole; what the heII?
@AAA AAA They plan to have small engines on the sides of Starship near the top, kind of like the ones on Dragon, for the early landings. After a few missions they hope to have a landing pad built for later landings
I'm not being critical or negative about the Chinese rover on Mars. In fact, I applaud their accomplishment. They added features to their rover that JPL had not thought of, or had the technology to implement at the time with 'Perserverence'. It just shows how the exploration of Space is meant to be a global endeavor, and not a competition.
Unfortunately, making it a competition is pretty much the only way to get more money from the politicians.
@@darth856 Politicians work for those who give them the most campaign money; and not for those that vote the into office.
LOL. Politics abhors a vacuum. Joe Biden...vacuum
@@darth856 True.
@@myyklmax 50% true, at best. I used to work for the California legislature. Do NOT let your daughter date a politician. They are not normal people, in most cases.
I hope this prompts the US to increase NASA's shoestring budget into something usable. #FundNASA
Fun fact: During the Apollo era, NASA's budget was about 4% of the full US budget, and most of it was focused on space exploration. Nowadays it is less than 0,5% and most of it is dedicated to maintenance.
Its a shame that the US seems to care so little these days about actually important stuff like spaceflight and NASA
NASA will just waste it. Private endeavors are the best way forward for human space exploration.
4% is actually crazy. even curent one is a dream for other nations and could be much more efficient if not for chain of overpricing and barely competent contractors like boing
@@blacknoir2404 Hard to fund spaceflights when 61% of your population pays net zero taxes and your military funds the people attacking them.
Have you seen the US Congress lately? Half of it is still not entirely sure if they themselves deserve to be hanged.
Wow! There really are some spectacular images in here that I was unaware of. Thanks for putting all this together for us to enjoy.
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I think every mission to space should have at least two selfie cameras now.
i dont buy any of this bs , why isn't there any rover on the moon that can take pic of the earth
Thanks for being one of few U.S. channels covering this. Fascinating!
Would love to hear a flat-earther try and explain why the Chinese scientists and engineers are cooperating with NASA to perpetuate the "globe earth conspiracy". On second thought, I don't think I have time for that level of crazy.
Damn, just thinking about listening to this explanation makes my head hurt. Well done good person.
Something like this requires a new breed of cynical and bitter anti-reality morons: the Flat Mars-ers! Remember: "Nothing can escape the Firmament, but things like asteroids, meteors, space debris, and billionaire space tourists punch holes through it all the time!"
I've tried and the explanation was basically that all the world governments are working together while lying to us about everything... it's insanity
No. You really wouldn't. It's just painful. In fact, I can see a comment 2 more from yours in the timeline from a Bob Robert that is typical. He said "lol they faked it ..."
@@TheAechBomb Just so they can achieve what exactly this massively huge effort to achieve what. Boggles my mind.
Scott, since the Chinese lander's rocket blasted a hole in the landing site, does this make you think that Musk's Starship can't land on Mars without a prepared concrete slab to land on?
They could use the high-thruster design as seen on the spacex moon lander concepts.
You hear talk about Mars landers having landing motors up high on the ship so not to blast the surface so much ...........This is all a work in progress..........
That and a snowball's chance in Hell.
There must be flat rock areas to land on.
Do we have any data on the landing weight of the Chinese lander and the diameter / depth of the hole? Based on the weight of the lander / retro thrust requirements, is there any way to reliably predict the hole that might be excavated by the Starship landing raptors? Maybe higher mounted lunar landing system would work here as well.
I'd say China certainly gets second place for having a SUCCESSFUL landing on Mars.
Also Scott I remind you that the ESA also sent a probe to land on Mars that also crashed.
And a nice crater it made indeed. The distinction is that Mars 3 and Beagle landed in one piece, but then didn't function properly.
They may only have a second for mars, but when it comes to crushing dissent and persecutions they're number 1. I feel conflicted enjoying the fruits of such an evil regime.
made with free uhigur labor; powered by falon gong organs .. 😆
the hell? Russia successfully landed on mars in the 1970s
@@I_dont_want_an_at soft land. also they didn't, that was the Soviet Union, and that was Mars 3 which promptly died seconds after landing
For some reason, I only now got amazed by the fact, that Mars exists in pretty much same category of celestial bodies as Earth
Everything we've witnessed here on Earth is totally applicable on those insanely remote landscapes, on some other space rock, formed from magma billions years ago
Not totally. The atmosphere and environmental conditions of Mars are radically different from Earth - different enough to cause geological changes.
Drastically different.
@@Justin-C I think he meant that physics work the same there. Which is sort off expected as those rules are pretty much UNIVERSal. The only know exceptions are black holes and the inside of stars/novas. Aside from that they all work, you just need to adjust for Mars atmosphere and gravity.
And not only that but we have a small helicopter there that flys around on its own on a completely different rock millions a miles away from our own rock. Crazy times, I wonder what another 50 years of technological advancement will look like from us humans. Also, it's crazy to think our own galaxy would take 50,000 light years to get out of and there are billions of galaxy's in the universe. You can't tell me there are no other intelligent lifeforms out there somewhere...
Great observation. I so agree. I think this line of thought can be applied to the universe. Water here, water there, water way over there. Life here, life (was) there, life (was) way over there. The thought that our planet and our life was, is, universally unique--some kind of flaw--is really absurd. My other thought is, it is possible--a tragic hint--that civilizations kill themselves, which is why we don't see other signs of extraterrestrial activity.
It looks like the rocket for the Chinese lander made a deeper hole then the mole instrument on NASA's Insight lander lol
Seeing a real footage of a rover moving on Mars is priceless and nothing can match a real experience like that.
Here’s hoping it will rendezvous with the Viking lander. Could worthwhile just to see how human made things hold up after 4-5 decades on Mars.
How far away is the Viking lander?
@@Steph.98114 too far, I don’t think it’ll last long enough to make it to Viking 2
@@Yura_Kachel Viking 2 is about 48 degrees North, 134 degrees East. Zhurong is 25 degrees North, 110 degrees East. Anyone know how far that would be?
But they’re both on Utopia Planitia, looking at it via Google Mars, it doesn’t look that bad. Mars is tiny compared to earth.
Ok, I looked it up. 1748 km. Space is big.
China is an amazing country, at least that's my impression after traveling the country for 6 months.
Evil empire.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 evil empire with anime and cool games
@@skabbigkossa everything is “American” with the wumaos, an evil empire is an evil empire, no matter the propaganda
@@scottslotterbeck3796 crawl into a hole with your issue and stay there. We are here to learn more about this scientific mission
@@crazyjohnhoward The only science the Chinese are concerned with is the science of power and ruination. Read the history of communism, buddy boy. Millions dead. And it continues today. I wish China nothing but bad fortune.
👍👍👍 “ZhuRong祝融” means = “God of Fire” （in Chinese myth/fairy tale）; "Mars火星" means = “Planet of Fire”; "Fire" means ="火“.
原来祝融是火神，学习了。
@@gaydonaldtrump apolo is god of sun. its very common in myths around the world to name planets and suns with names of gods.
Neat.
Tianwen天问: it literally means looking for answers in the sky. From a great thinker 2000 years ago. He is also the mourner of the Dragon Boat Festival, a traditional Chinese festival. His name is Qu Yuan屈原
Zhu Rong is the name of the god of fire in very ancient chinese mythology, and “Huo Xing”(火星) literally means "Fire Planet" or "Fire Star"(since ancient didn't distinguish from planets and stars) .
I really appreciate that you're able to discuss missions like this in such an unbiased way. It's difficult to find anyone with decent science chops who doesn't just berate projects like this from places like China, Russia and India.
I think a great achievement should be recognized as a great achievement...regardless of who did it.
Scott tries to leave the politics out of science, and I think that is the right way to do it.
@@TexanUSMC8089 You'd cheer on Nazi Germany's V2?
@B J Yes. We spent 450,000 American lives. German scientists had option of surrendering to USA or Soviet forces. Who would you surrender to? We knew the Soviets were the enemy. To let this expertise go to waste would be ludicrous. We stole nothing. We paid for it with those American lives. Now go back to your cartoons.
@B J Yawn. America is great, you are not. Go get a job.
Beagle2 seems to have landed in a small ditch, I wonder if it's failure was simply a software issue, AKA "wait for solar panels to fully open... next instruction". If it's in a small ditch and the panels couldn't fully extend then it may simply be stuck in an endless wait statement. Just a random thought.
After it couldn’t open the panels, and being in a wait state, I’m sure the batteries went dead and it just shut down. If someone walked over to it and opened the panels, it might charge the batteries back up, and pick up where it left off? The latest NASA rover has a nuclear battery! Does not depend on solar panels at all. It’s probably far more expensive, but has to be much more dependable.
@@alphagt62 Nope - it gets so cold on Mars at night that no battery electrochemistry can recover without being recharged before it reaches zero charge for more than a week or two (nuclear power is effectively a generator, not a battery). That was the fate of Opportunity after over about six weeks of dust storm induced darkness.
It just needs a little jump start, you'll see. When Large Friendly Moggie goes up to Mars it will give Beagal a cuddle and a decent charge and pehaps a nice blanket and in a few days old Beagal will be out of the ditch and sniffing around like a good doggy!
landing in success for the first trial is really impressive and it deserves a lot of appraisal from the international communities
Its not really that impressive, there have been like 9 other spacecraft to land on mars
@@walkingdeadman4208 you need to note that besides 9 successful landing there are also plenty of failures on other attempts too
@@walkingdeadman4208 At least you've got your name right....
Rover IRL: 10m/day
Me in KSP: 10m/s seems too slow, let's try 20m/s
a nice stable 20m/s, let's do 2x time
@@Daniel-yy3ty ...on minimus :D
I don't use Kerbal Space Program. I use HERBAL Space Program. It makes me feel as if I'm really flying. We rocket scientists have to experiment with exotic chemicals but you can't buy them in Walmart.
That is 72 km/h
Almost acceptable highway speed.
20m/s?! _AMETUR_. My rovers travel at 100m/s+
(Usually not for long, though XD)
Some people: STEM is boring
Engineers: We need to stress test this thing we made, whip out the cannon
“Hi, can we borrow your cannon?”
“Who are you and why”
There is a word that stuck in my mind when my engineer cousin make a joke:
"When engineer are bored, they will try something crazy without a second thought"
He is a fan of Michael Reeves too.
Public school system: Three R's! Our graduates don't need no stinking 3Rs!
No fellows, you're all wrong, however, we can always improve. In the 50's you stuck a fudgesicle in your kid's mouth and stuck him in front of the TV to watch Howdy Doody, while you bang the milkman. Now we use STEM that way. STEM for everyone. STEM for girls! STEM for at risk youth! Let's pat ourselves on the back! We've reduced the equation! Instead of Arts & Sciences now we just have the Sciences! It's like nobody remembers Jeff Goldblum's speeches in Jurassic Park. It's like everyone's forgotten the panic in engineering when people started using the TRS-80? These white males were certain it was the end of science? So, in 20 years what percent of current STEM studies will be performed by humans. Let me just throw out a guess...uh zero. And since we won't have anyone who has a background in the Arts we won't be able to direct the robots very well, and the robots will have already figured that out, it will be SKYNET. This whole putting all our eggs in the STEM basket will make the SKYNET scenario unavoidable. Ahnald might say, "Yah, STEM stands for Self Terminating Educational Model. Yah..."
@@mmckee58 no AI is not a self aware logic machine. No skynet is fiction.
As a 75 year old who has followed science fiction since her teens, the amazing journeys our world is making in space, thrills my heart and soul! even more so that countries seem to be trying to work together and that's going to make the difference in information gathering and progress forward like this video. Thanks so much for sharing.
[[[even more so that countries seem to be trying to work together]]] -- Russia will turn off the engines of the International space station within 12 months, and the US had the law to ban NASA make a phone call to China.
@@hanfucolorful9656 sources please
@@judithannem1340 Google：
Russia will pull out of the International Space Station, space agency chief confirms
@@hanfucolorful9656Well, sorry to bother you more a year later... but how're you doing with your bs information ?
@@TomDrez COPY:
Russia will pull out of the International Space Station, space agency chief confirms
News
By Tom Metcalfe published May 02, 2022
"The decision has already been made, we are not obliged to talk about it publicly," Roscosmos chief said.
Cosmonauts (from left) Denis Matveev and Oleg Artemyev worked outside the International Space Station's Russian segment for 6 hours and 37 minutes outfitting Nauka and configuring the European robotic arm in April 2022.
Cosmonauts (from left) Denis Matveev and Oleg Artemyev worked outside the International Space Station's Russian segment for 6 hours and 37 minutes outfitting Nauka and configuring the European robotic arm in April 2022. (Image credit: NASA)
Russia has confirmed it will pull out of the International Space Station (ISS), perhaps as soon as two years from now, because of the sanctions imposed on it after its invasion of Ukraine, according to news reports.
"The decision has already been made, we are not obliged to talk about it publicly," Dmitry Rogozin, the director-general of the federal Roscosmos space agency, told the state-owned Rossiya-24 TV channel on Saturday (April 30), according to the independent Russian news agency TASS.
Rogozin didn't say when Russia's involvement in the ISS project will come to an end, although he affirmed it would give at least a year's notice "in accordance with our obligations."
We really don't get to hear much about China's projects such as their space station or their mars activities. Is that because of poor coverage?
They are the enemy of the West, thats why.
@@jonathanbowen3640 As much of an enemy as China as a whole is, I wouldn't demonize the Chinese spaceflight and aeronautics field in specific. We're all trying to reach one common goal. I like to separate governments and scientists as they are almost never the same.
@@IneptOrange what about the rampant theft of tech by China?
@@QQ-ch7hp I have nothing to counter that unfortunately.
The problem is if they tell you about it, and it fails.
You can only know about their successes
Thanks Scott! I'm from China and a fan of your channel. Great content as always. It is not easy to come this far for my country and I hope human race can work together to go further in spaceflight cooperation.
LOL. Will you still say that as you invade Taiwan?
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@@scottslotterbeck3796 Not yet but YES, deal with it and get use to it.
Yes, human race should work together to explore the universe. china should prevent anglo demons turn space into war zone again. Go china!
@@jianyuhua Anglo demons? Besides, it's China turning space into a war zone. But of course you would never admit it.
It's very telling that the Chinese State prioritized unfurling a flag instead of just displaying it as a decal.
Excellent point!
so, China decided to use a version of passive thermal management on their vehicle. good thinking on their part, because it's simple and won't break down easily.
and much much cheaper than a radioactive one.
@@vulcanodong The main reason for the RTG (which I assume you're talking about) is to generate power without relying on the sun. Any thermal use is a by-product. And I wonder how much the passive approach weighed compared to other active measures. Not saying it's a bad choice. But, there are tradeoffs.
@@aviatorjoe4153 From what Scott saide, seems to me it's made from oil-derived products, so it must be much lighter than water for the same volume. Plutonium and other radioactive metals are much heavier per volume - though they'd generate a lot of heat whilst using much less volume... so it'll be interesting once the mission ends to get all the data and thus be able to make an educated decision about which is best in which case. As you said, tradeoffs in everything
@@JosePineda-cy6om Well wait, I would think that, given that it's purpose is to store heat, that it would be on the denser portion of the petroleum product scale, so it may not be as light as you think. And again, it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison because the RTG's main purpose is power generation. It has two functions. It's not that it isn't a clever idea, it is, but we're not able to say it's better than using the excess heat from an RTG for thermal control because of the dual use of the RTG
One more little factoid; the camera they used to take the pictures used Wi-Fi to send the pictures back to the rover.
And you thought your Wi-Fi was bad.
I haven't even figured out yet how the camera moved & position itself so well.
The achievement of the Chinese Mars Rover is for all human beings. And I hope the space explore are starting point for all human beings solidarity.
I think it is for the Chinese Communist Party first.
Bullcrap. China is militarizing space, and if we're not careful, we will be defeated.
Stop buying Chinese stuff. They want to destroy freedom.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 only china can stop people buying chinese manufactured stuff, only when its citizens quality of life increase and demand higher wages
the chinese mars rover is first and foremost political, space is just another battlefield no matter how many engineers sing kumbaya.
@@gasun1274 you know China and nasa collaborate quite a bit
That vacation must have done Scott a lot of good ... his voice has dropped half an octave.
LOL! Scott needs to trademark his voice though. He is a good sport about it and his name. Wish he was in politics.
Very Manl(e)y.
He sounded congested. Does he have a cold or something? I thought the cold was almost eliminated thanks to COVID19.
They chose the landing site to map it out in order to build the Utopia Planitia Shipyards.
Was looking for some reference to that when I heard the landing site!
They do have a long term plan to build a base and send people over in about 30 years or more.
@@MarcoScetta Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project.
Beagle 2 was the lander for the European Space Agency's (ESA) Mars Express mission. It was developed and constructed under the leadership of British universities. Beagle 2 had undocked from its mother probe on December 19, 2003, and probably landed on the surface of Mars after a five-day flight during the night of December 24-25, 2003. Since no radio contact could be made with the probe, it was declared lost on February 11, 2004. It was only after more than eleven years that it could be clearly identified from images taken from Mars orbit.
Seconds after deployment of the rover, Zhurong received a message stating they had been trying to reach it about the rover's extended warranty.
Considering how much over time Chang’e got. I don’t think the boss man at CNSA would let Zhurong go that easily.
90 days until it runs out
At least the Chinese are honorable.
Chinese junk, technology stolen from the USA.
@@scottslotterbeck3796 that stuff doesn't even land the same way as US rovers, and uses solar power for electricity and heating...
5:55 holy shit, Starship landing might need a slight tweak.
I think they will realize (from analysis or the first flight) that the hot gas thrusters located high off the ground level will be needed for Mars. Same ones planned for HLS. Mars-g might require more thrust or cutting the Raptor engines closer to the surface.
Just have a second Starship lower the landing Starship to the ground, like NASA's rocket crane on steroids
You don't need landing legs if you dug a hole for your rocket to wedge into.
@Pronto that would be amazing, especially if they also take into account that the crater might be buried after a dust storm. then they would have a half buried living hab with underground shelter/storage. and they may not even need a crane like HLS to reach the surface.
@@TROPtastic Ahahahaa. I spit my coffee imagining this! darnyouuuu
Can you imagine if all the space-faring countries collaborated and did ONE project?
U.S. banned China from ISS and ordered NASA NOT to cooperate with China in 2011. EU will probably follow along as they receive their orders from Washington.
So if there's no cooperation -- you know who to blame.
All that extensive science and engineering to keep the rover safe on entry just to stick the landing and than says:
*"We did it!! Now where should we go from here?"*
~ *"idk, that big hill over there looks interesting"*
Its mars. Youre already there, just dance.
The Chinese spacy agency has already explained that the two white marks are the discharge of propellent.
7:15 As an aerospace engineer(ing student/intern) I can confirm that this is how crunch time looks
Fascinating. I haven't followed this mission at all so this is all news to me.
I was really worried about Tianwen-1 and Zhurong, since they were China's first attempt and Mars has historically been unkind to spacecraft. It's great to see them knock it out of the park! Go, Mars Bots!
And they were saying China don't make quality products LOL!
@@inlikearefugee5194 China doesnt *sell* their high quality products :)
@@inlikearefugee5194 China only steals top quality tech.
@@2001herne Interesting perspective there; well-put.
@@2001herne Hey. Scott works for Apple. Be nice in the host’s house. 🤫🤣
Respect to China’s space exploration team.
What was the InSight landing system?
Multiple small engines, but we don’t see the underside of the lander
@@scottmanley thanks
pulsed thrusters on a gravity turn.
The engineering camera view, starting at 7:28, is a stereogram. That means, if you can bear to do it, cross your eyes so your right eye looks at the left image and your left eye looks at the right image. This gives you binocular vision for depth perception. (What is sometimes called 3D vision.)
What a great idea, China Space Engineers.
Stereograms aren't supposed to work by crossing eyes o.O It's as simple as, left eye looks at the left image and right eye looks at the right image.
Don't trick me into being cross eyed
failed to do so ^.^
Thanks Scott. Whilst I really enjoy all the Spacex updates available online, I’m really happy to hear about the progress of the Chinese endeavours… 🙏
China is on point with their achievements.
Lol! Love the waving cartoon panda on the side of the lander base, who says the Chinese don't have a sense of humor....
Those are the mascots for the Beijing Winter Olympics I think
i wish science was not politicized. having said that, it is staggering what china is accomplishing since being 'banned'/ostracized by nasa/esa/jaxa (and their govts) only about 10 years ago, from its rover on the dark side of the moon, to its successful rover landing on mars (on its first try i believe, which itself was a great feat) and to its humble small but effective space station. i believe the best is possible when space agencies collaborate - but if china is not allowed to do that, i'm sure she'll find her own ways to achieve its goals/missions.
why havent i see more new coverage of the zhurong lander! great stuff thansk!
Well its China and they don't share a lot of information. In comparison with ESA or NASA, Chinese space Agency is very closed.
@@JackieWelles in bilibili 我们的太空
well, more coverage would contradict the narrative that chinese space program is secretive and militaristic. in reality, the future plans and even live cast launches are all over the chinese language media. yet the western "journalists" and media are busy looking for non-existent concentration camps and genocide in china. other "stuff" that doesn't conform to the western ideology and stereotype of china is deemed not news worthy to the free and unbiased western media. lol
@@catbertevil750 Ok ok relax with your "West is Evil" theory. I have been following plenty of Chinese international social media sites, they love reporting how wonderful and amazing China is unlike any other country yet they constantly repoerted negative news from the west with very barely any negative news coming from China. So don't talk like Chinese media isn't biased either. There are bad journalists on both sides.
Talking about the lander. Even if there is a lot of coverage in China like you said, huge difficulty is also information available in Chinese only. China should publish more research and science reports in English, international language if they want to show their advancements.
@@JackieWelles I am quite relaxed and currently resides in the states despite you preconceived notion. lol there are plenty of media reporting bad things about china, true or completely false, including chinese language ones. western media, however, rarely report anything positive about china. at very least, china's media don't make up facts about the west. they might interpret things incorrectly but facts wise check out, not the same thing can be said about the western media.
whose responsibility do you think it is to understand chinese? china never asks the west to translate everything into chinese. the point is china never said the west is secretive on their space programs only because there's a lack of chinese language translation of the western programs.
The weird thing I find about images from the surface of Mars is that it looks so much like some parts of the Namib desert. There are identifiable geological features like dunes, exposed sedimentary rocks, drainage and so on... I have to keep remind myself unlike the Namib; it is bitterly cold; somehow even dryer; there's almost no air (and what there is would kill you) - but you would get much the same suntan.
You would get a MUCH FASTER suntan
It's exactly that ----- the namib desert
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You and I both know it's a hoax my friend
Just to send a craft to Mars is just too incredible, sending pictures and capturing images is just mind boggling and beyond lay men comprehension. Simply amazing, beyond words
Around 4:30. Does the single engine on the lander gimble? If so, that could explain the interesting burn pattern. Perhaps, the single engine gimbled one way and then another - perpendicular to descent. IDK.
That pattern looks like it would have turn REALLY gimbal at a steep angle and only in one axis? Not even mechjeb can do that.
@@confuded Agree. Also, they have attitude thrusters in those directions, why not use those? Also, what kind of mechanics did they use to ensure absolute stability in one axis and insane instability to warrant that much gimbal in another? 🤣
Had to agree with last point although I think mechjeb can play golf with a KS-25.
I thought so too in the beginning, but after all that doesn't sound like a good explanation because the lighter appearance occurs in two disconnected areas. Would imply the engine gimbaled to one side, then turned off and gimbaled to the other side and turned on again :D
nah.
@@u1zha but, you forget the 4 thrusters at 90 degrees. the gimbaling engine would probably work on slowing descent for landing and produce significant burn pattern. We don't know yet.
I didn't know Beagle-2 had soft landed and started to deploy. I remember the news of it being found but I thought they found a crash site. It's a pity Prof Pillinger isn't around to see that. He was told: you must put retro-rockets on it or it will smash on landing, but he chose to use the weight for more science stuff and rely on the parachute and airbags. Turns out he was at least half right, although maybe the jolt of landing was just slightly too hard.
Congrats China! And thanks for finally switching the view to 3rd person in a mission now was that so hard NASA?
Thank's Scott. Very nice summary of this impressive success of CNSA
Mighty fine summary of Zhurong so far, Scott!
Awesome stuff... looking forward to what else is coming from Mars to us earthlings
7:41 "Cameras are so much cheaper" ? I am certain there is another reason other than cost as to why they did not install cameras to observe the parachutes. The cost of any camera for any Mars mission would be miniscule in comparison to the total cost.
I don't know why, but I would have found it very interesting to have seen a short video of the parachute lofting about a bit in the Martian wind.
Tianwen-1's selfie is very impressive both in space and landing on mars.I always wonder what spacecraft fly look like in deep space.
@fuckyoutubepolicy staff I kown that, what I mean is "Tianwen-1 Remote Camera, secondary Payload deployed on 1 June 2021 that took photos of and tested a wireless connection with Zhurong rover like the deployable camera did with orbiter. Its mission was to take a group selfie of the Zhurong rover and the Tianwen-1 lander.[69] The photo was released on 11 June 2021, confirming their Martian landing success".USA is great, but you didn't do this.
I'm always amazed how space exploration can be designed on earth to work flawlessly on another planet. Can you imagine if the brains of USA, China, Russia, Germany all came together for the common good how far advanced humankind would be by now?
"You might say I'm a dreamer...". Never going to happen. The lust for power is too great, and people can be easily manipulated.
Omg at 6:05 next to the China flag you can see a picture of a cartoon panda on a yellow paper. That’s so adorable and chad.
that's for the 2022 winter Olympic
Those are the Beijing Winter Olympics mascots! :)
You do know they threatened to use atomic bombs on Japan in a first strike, don't you???
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Who are they? Any credible source? As far as I know Chinese government has "No nuclear strike threaten one non-nuclear country" policy which hasn't been abandoned yet.
Scott, thank you for this information. And congratulations China on this success. In times where we look to find fault in anyone for some reason, this is fantastic science and deserves recognition for the data acquired so far. As a planet we should be proud of this as a step to our exploration of space. But then again, I am just a dreamer.
China is the enemy. Would you defend Taiwan?
@@scottslotterbeck3796 Taiwan is the Republic Of China(ROC).
@@AwardQueue Yes it is. Not the Communist China mainland.
@@AwardQueue So you are favorable of a murderous, genocidal country. Got it.
The outro is incredible. Perfectly encapsulates the channel.
Love the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics mascots at 6:08! So cute.
9:40 - Are we sure that's the aeroshell nearby? Are we sure it isn't a Jawa sandcrawler much further away?
The camera dropped off and Beagle stepping back to take selfie’s - so cool. I hope the Chinese keep learning and sharing to us all -a nice bit of kit and congratulations
Could it be possible the pattern on the surface is indeed caused by a bi-directional exhaust in order to ensure no chunks of rock would be thrown in the direction of the ramp deployment?
Was just China's first toxic waste spill on Mars.
I definitely have to give props to China for doing an Amazing job. Very impressive. Shows that China's becoming a force to be reconed with when it comes to space exploration. Hopefully we can work together again to get first humans on mars
I’m wondering the implications of several parachutes left on mars. What if they come loose at so point and even though very minimal chance what if one hits one of the rovers? Kind of like space debris around the earth.
Thanks Scott, very interesting. Could you do something on the changes to Starship's fins please? I watched a couple of 'explanations', but am none the wiser! Cheers.
Beyond my explanations on twitter I'd just be speculating.
@@scottmanley Cheers. I don't normally use Twitter, but I'll make an exception and have a look!
hey man the channel Marcus House does a great weekly video about Starship and it's progress, it seems to me they detailed the heat protection and wings in one of the episodes in the last 3 weeks or so... IMHO it's worth watching either way... hope this helps =)
@@scottmanley Hey Scott, big fan BTW, and I love it anytime you say "muun"!
Please remember that there are many OG's out here who still do not do Twittering or FaceBooking.
But, we will do RUclips, just saying..
And yes, I actively choose to keep my social media footprint to a minimum.
Thanks for all that you post here!!
Fly safe, & stay thirsty my friend!
@@scottmanley jus because you tweet, is no reason not to tube...
I love how almost every space agency have the Star Trek-ish styled logo
It's the other way around... The movie industry has "stolen" the look of the logo.
@@goltzhar LOL Who used the logo before 1965?
Didn't China also launch something to investigate the far side of the moon? Has there been any release of images or data from that mission?
The little panda cartoon drawing next to the Chinese flag lol
The first graffiti on mars, carried from earth. Lol
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Ahhh, Scott! You bring awareness to us what NASA space and other news don't! You always, most of the time anyway, keep it interesting and vital for/to our interest!
Very good work from China,, hope the world can get along better
I wish we could have an international cooperation in space exploration...
U.S. banned China from ISS and ordered NASA NOT to cooperate with China in 2011. EU will probably follow along as they receive their orders from Washington.
So if there's no cooperation -- you know who to blame.
That shot of the rover and lander with the 🇨🇳 flag is beautiful
Communism and oppression is beautiful
@@NittoNba44 yes because no one is oppressed under capitalism. I'm not gonna argue in the comments section since it's just stupid have a good day pal
Interesting to see the dunes in the craters from above. Indicates an atmosphere. Whereas craters on the moon have no dunes. Hence indicating no atmosphere. Just a purely visual observation, not using any instruments other than pictures.
I miss seeing your smiling face Scott. Always made me smile too.
He doesnt have budget for the makeup guy on the non-us space program coverage.
Thanks Scott, very interesting as always. :)
The fact that multiple countries on the planet are able to do this means things can potentially be so different in the next 500 years
Fascinating. I haven't paid much attention to these things lately so I didn't know China had landed a rover on Mars. Congrats to them. (P.S: I'm still looking for all that water you mentioned on Mars)
Yeah the landing and the photos are cool and all, but have you ever had chinese hardware that lasted more than 90 days of operation
Sure do. My Xiaomi mi 9t phone I am using now. Going on 3 years now. There are many others lying around in the house.
I see a lot of hate and disinformation in the comments, don't let that discourage your enthusiasm in space and your interest in Chinese space projects Scott, let science and engineering be science and engineering, and let hate and disinformation go elsewhere.
Cheers Scott, great analysis. love this channel for your insights
Whatever your political beliefs and differences of opinion about nationalities and countries it’s good to see other countries succeeding in space and getting the recognition they deserve for doing so.
I find the space community to care the most about all of humanity.
The Chinese believe they are the master race and aim to rule the world. Too bad for Western Civilization. And freedom.
I was at the outlet shopping with my wife. Every product in every store is made in China 🇨🇳 great job
Amazing to see this. Excellent engineering must be to achieve this.