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The Sad Story Behind An Empty Luxurious Town in Tanzania 🇹🇿
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- In this Video I present to you the Most Luxurious Gated Community in Tanzania, And Why it seems to be Empty for so many year now.
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Are these houses for sale???
I stayed in this estate for my 2017 holiday in Dar. Yes, the estate is very beautiful and very quiet, the weather is good as it is close to the beach. The main issue is that there are no shops nearby if you need any thing. The main road is a bit far and there is no public transport to get you to the main road, lucky we had our own car.
Is it possible to rent the villa for vacation? Who do we contact?
Thanks for sharing!
How much was the rent?
There must be other reasons, besides a little distance away from things. Say more?
Good video. But it would've be great if you had a chance to interview the management there to find out exactly what's going on, why so many empty apartments. And also how to buy one if someone is interested.
Agree
No Russians, please!
Good points im from SAand Tanzania is my second home❤️ lovely country
Exactly! This needs a part 2. Otherwise what was the point?
Agree
As a foreigner you can not buy the home outright.Only available to Tanzanians.But if this was Zanzibar the land laws are different !!!
Can you buy a property in Zanzibar as a foreigner
Yes you can
And they can easily screw you over. Some foreigners have lost property and it took them almost 3 decades to get any reparations. I wouldn't advise a foreigner to but property there.
It depends but if you follow the rules here from resident permits and other permits that will enable you to live there, it's not a problem
Do you watch John StJulien
If there no schools, shopping malls, hospitals it’s a no go place indeed
My homeschool my kids international language school I don't need school. I just need to go to the beach maybe go once in a while in darr en salam thats it
I love this house is beautiful Mediterranean houses
The way I'm introverted and can work remotely I can actually live in one of the homes 😂😂😍
Ghosts
let’s move in 😂
You are my twin me too I would enjoy living in such a place😅😅
ur not intovert ur un married
Wait what company are you working for, you hire engineers?
Price alone cannot be the reason. May be the Estate is not close to most people's working area, or that 'nearby' places he mentioned have a much lower rent than this gated community.
I suspect the développers didn't do a comprehensive market research prior to this construction.
Another reason is the price, building your own home can cost you only half of the asking price , same quality , finally you will find it difficult for someone to buy that house in streets that are not gated , people values privacy more than anyone can comprehend.
I am amazed that they spent 80 million on those places, but they dont have grocery shops, restaurants, movie theater and other activities, gas stations, over there. I mean, inside the area.
The rent of $300 isn't high, it's actually standard for a house and maybe low for middle income areas in Dar and $100K for a house is actually very very normal. The problem was marketing and location of the project (most mid income and high income people traditionally prefer to live in Kinondoni, Ubungo and ilala districts). Kigamboni is a very new area and when that project was being developed, the area was considered to be a remote area to the most of their intended market.
300 usd a month is cheap.
@Brio diz depends on your earnings. Its cheap (near on damn impossible) in places like the UK and US.
@@tangaz5819 ofcourse i was talking about TZ not the uk . 300 usd a month wount even get you a garden shed.
Maybe they didn't intend for locals to live there.
@@briodiz4772 i would like to know where because that’s even more than average wage 🤔
I am 101% Sure, the marketing was terrible, but such homes are actually pretty affordable to many people, and they would make ideal quiet weekend homes away from the city!
If this were in Kenya, they would have sold out before it was finished due to our strong marketing culture here in Kenya.
It is not about marketing strategy. And not about money the way video suggest. Average income earner in Dar are more into buying a land and develop with their own preferences interms of design, leisure, backyard, etc. Also the geographic location is not yet popular in contrast to other ends of Dar. Remember Dar is the biggest city in East Africa by size. Two times bigger than Nairobi. Lands are plenty. Do your homework before commenting. As well for the content creator!
@@mh9251 Two times bigger than Nairobi; that has made my evening. Unless the meaning of two times has changed.
@julius naminde I wish you have your evening some other time. Not today. Here just approaching to noon. Dar es salaam is approx 1500 sq. km, Nairobi is approx 700 sq. Km. This evening sit for some geography and statistics!
@@mh9251 That's mad, considering Dar es Salaam as a region is one of the smallest regions in Tanzania. I was born in Dar es Salaam and still live here but the first time I read somewhere that Dar es Salaam is the biggest city in EA, I was really surprised, let alone being twice the size of Nairobi. And you are also right about in your previous comment above that there are still a lot of undeveloped spaces/land in Dar es Salaam. It's insane.
@@jullyborn81 Depends if it's two times bigger in area or two times bigger in population 🙂
If only the govt focus on infrastructure and access instead of foreign investment. Fix the roads first, supply clean water to the public and reliable electricity
Drone pictures of the total area would be great..
😂 in Tanzania you need permit to have drone and fly them 😂😅
@@willjohngodfrey5372 yep...permit in everything!
This is so strange, building so many houses with no buyers. I'm not sure how it's done over there but in SA whenever there's a new development, houses are built according to the number of buyers, you can't build 10 houses while you only have 2 buyers, or am I missing something here??
That's a good system however in Tanzania most developers build and wait for people to come rent/buy since there is a huge demand for housing.
I also want to add that most people in Tanzania who can afford these houses like building their own houses and so buying/ renting is quite rare which is another reason this project may have stalled
Well said unlike here in South Africa most Tanzanians are home owners.hardly do u get a large number of tenants.
By income most Tanzanian cant afford the prices, buying a two bedroom apartment for Tsh 175 - 200 Million? while with half of the amount you can build your own house of 4 bedrooms.
Very few Tanzanian would afford to buy such houses.
In Kenya too developers build houses then they wait for buyers
Marketing was the issue.
Maybe they should have partnered with an affordable private school and mall/shopping Centre. Built entry level middle income houses (not too fansy), the school and shops at the same time to attract young families. It's hard to convince people who are already established to move but young families are more willing. Market it as a lifestyle community with all amenities. It's a very beautiful place, sad to see it go to waste.
This can still be done. I wonder how they put down so much . money without adequate basic consultancy on marketing
Kigamboni and Kijichi areas are full of low cost properties so the AvIC project targeted other clients. They tried marketing when they started but then they went quite .... So marketing could be the reason
Woo beautiful...
I L❤ when Africanns are showing our beautiful continent..
Keep it up brother
This houses are Mediterranean style
Beautiful city in Tanzania and I am from Michigan USA but I would like to live there
Lava lava has featured this place in one of his songs. It looks lovely.
All that green is what i love about this development… It is magnificent!!
I love this place. If this is in Ghana, aaaah, one will pay big money to buy! I love this place. We will soon explore Tanzania!
How many hardworking Ghanaians, apart from the criminal politicians and public officials who loot millions of dollars from the State, can afford such houses in Ghana?
I'm in South Africa 🇿🇦... I would definitely live there
You’re hella pretty!
It's a thing down here, they almost all prettt
This is perfect neighborhood for film production
Exactly 👍
A very good update. You are right, the marketing has been very poor and the local amenities haven't been built yet. This was only phase 1 but it doesn't look like phase 2 will be started if they can't sell these properties. It's a shame because they do look good value for the price being asked.
Thanks for your consideration mr🙏
@@dorothysista7463 there are lots of houses in Masaki and other areas of Dar es Salaam that are far more expensive and owned by local people. There were to be 5 phases in this project and the amenities were planned to be built later. It looks like they got their marketing and planning totally wrong and because they can't sell the houses in phase 1 they have no funds to continue with phase 2.
You are illiterate about tanzania
@david ouma in that case you are just illiterate and not a nice person.
@@gordy21 can't they sell them to the diaspora? Oh, I forgot, we are not allowed to own property. It's just fucked up country with medieval laws. Duel citizenship could solve a lot of these problems.
Chinese are no stranger to developments like these that remain unoccupied for years. Problem is the pricing...
Even in mainland China today, 50 million apartments remain EMPTY!
It's called money laundering
@@nesq4104 💯
Just like the Shanghai Tower project. It’s an empty multi-billion mega project
The homes are going empty while millions are living in squalid slums everywhere in the Continent.
Poverty levels... dictate the real situation.
The price worth it. Such a place in Ghana will worth about 400k US dollars or even more. This is well built community with a lot of greenry, good tarred roads. I wish I could live there. Maybe I gotta find me a Tanzanian lady so I can relocate
Yes my brother..Come over when you ready..😂🤝
400k? Which part of ghana ?
Duuuuuuh
@@berthatz hi are you a tz lady?
Then move to Tanzania to own one.
Kudos on the green spaces. The grown palm trees are lovely.
Chinese have built thousands of flats in Nairobi but occupancy rate is very low.
They have little or no understanding of what homeowners need; schools, hospitals, shopping malls, entertainment like cinemas, restaurants etc. In Kenya the rooms tend to be very small; hence pple prefer Wahindi design and construction of homes.
Chinese don't also join the dots of the economy and our architectural tastes - and you are right, advertising isn't their strong point.
Uum...not quite eg. Great wall Gardens sell out they are in phase 4/5... agreed the rooms tend to be small
It isn’t the marketing, it over valued for the affordability. Cut the market price in half for 50% of the properties. It is not a community until then. Pure economics
Very nice 👌 👍🏿 free from pollution
Very nice, but would love to see the inside. Any chance you can create another video of the interior?
I will see it brother 👍
@@tideone97 Do you have any contact info? I was curious about renting one of these homes.
Good morning Sir, awesome video. What is the name of this town please???
@@dallasjudah450 www.avictown.co.tz
The developers could rent on Airbnb
Yea, my team the club above all Young Africans camp there.
yeah
Atleast you could have put some effort to show us the interior of the houses for more details. It would have helped a lot who are interested to invest in the neighborhood like me.
full of shit thats why he aint showing
71k views. Ongea na management ufanye in depth video za each kind of house zinazo patikana huko na bei zake ili wananchi tujue then tujipange!..
If this was in Kenya, it would have had a waiting list at that price. Beautiful place. Needs a mall
Mall will start once the houses are at leat 50% occupied...
For that money you can build a mini mansion in Dar
Tanzanians laws are not investor friendly and Tanzanians hate foreigners. Unlike Uganda, Rwanda or Kenya where you can invest easily and start a business as a foreigner as you can buy a property in these countries. Tanzanians are very hostile to foreigners and they are anti-development people
There are too many scams in Kenya.
Introduce an installmental way of payment, and allow occupancy after 60% of payment. The place will revamp back to life...
Back in 2015 I lived in a beautiful apartment building in Mauritania 🇲🇷 that was particularly empty.
That price may be possible with payment plans for up to 5 or 10 years. Houses are expensive in America but people struggle to make payments for 30 years which doing too much.
No job security in Africa plus lots of people prefer buildings their own housee than buying
Yes, payment plans for the diaspora could help. Gated communities come with additional costs, like security and maintaining the landscape. That could turn people away. Not easy to resale.
If they were built here in Kenya...We do purchase the house while still on foundation...I mean SCRAMBLING even if the construction is officially over🤗🤗🤗🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪100000usd...penny hapa Kenya 😋😋😋
Great job ..thanks for sharing 😊 God bless you
Thank You So much
is very beautiful but lucking social needs ,, public transport, super market and prayer place as hospital.
Nice informative piece. Firstly,the house designs are awful because the windows are too small considering Dar is hot. Also,the Tanzanian government does not care about affordable housing. Case in point, Dar es salaam CBD has houses owned by national housing corporation and you actually pay enough money as goodwill to buy a new house in order to get a chance to live there and still pay rent. If you want to rent a room in the suburbs like Magomeni,Sinza,Illala and many others,you have to pay a year's rent and 'kilemba',which is ten per cent paid to the brokers. That's why people in Tanzania struggle with making ends meet. The government should wake up!
What should the government do and is this a private developer or a government initiative ?
China already got a housing crises.
having large windows in houses where the climate is hot is not a good idea if you want to sleep at night. In Tanzania you need a good generator or solar battery back-up as there are often power cuts during the night and your air conditioning will stop working.
The government were trying to wake up by providing affordable housing with the Kigamboni Project but there was too much local opposition to the plans so the project was cancelled. You have made some valid points but the people also need to wake up.
@@justinamusyoka4986 The government has a duty to provide affordable housing as I stated.😎
as a an american i am dealing with that now. i can afford 6 months advance....because im white
No bro the most you can pay is 6 month, but if u negotiate well you can get for 3 month
Real Estate Developers don’t put money is such projects blindly. This is not a mistake, don’t look at it from a layman perspective.
There’s a very good reason this project is there for the owners. Look deeper and you will find the REAL reason.
Its very far from city center hence not favorable to many ..the price also is high compared with distance
What type of internet connection does this place have, and is there a consistent power supply? If the location boasts a reliable power source and high-speed internet, it would certainly pique our interest for potential investment opportunities.
Power and internet is reliable..just marketing issues. I live near this beautiful place
@@gumodokamehuna915 We should definitely visit the place to get a firsthand glimpse of the thriving real estate market beyond South Africa's borders 🌍🏠
Ukishatoka nje mji kwa Dar ni ngumu kuwapata wateja wa kipato cha juu kununua Nyumba. Miradi mingi kigamboni haijaleta Faida zaid ya Hasara. Ni muda sasa wawekezaji kuwekeza kwa watu wa kipato cha kati na Chini. Watanunua popote hata iwe Kibaha!
Tanzanians laws are not investor friendly and Tanzanians hate foreigners. Unlike Uganda, Rwanda or Kenya where you can invest easily and start a business as a foreigner as you can buy a property in these countries. Tanzanians are very hostile to foreigners and they are anti-development people
If this was Nairobi, even the outskirts, it would be fully occupied. $100,000 to $200,000 for a property which is 28kn from the city and 25km from the beach is affordable.
But the local politicians in Nairobi would make sure that nobody actually owns their titles.
@@tomstarwalker not true. We have freehold land which we have titles for.
Went there last week. Houses now show signs of major decay. In Tanzania, if there are no tenants the property owners very rarely do upkeep. In some units there were major bird droppings and nesting inside. There is a gym, grocery store and pool. All empty and abandoned. It would probably take major work to fix up some of these places…but it is not impossible. If this place had attracted people as the builder had planned it would have been great. They may want to look at lowering the rent to at least get some occupancy and slow the decay of the unused homes.
Oh that bad to hear, hope they will make it good
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This is has "Silk Road" written all over it. This is a Staging Area for the Chinese elite to one day occupy. They Have Another un-occupied city in Angola.
These people are invading Africa little by little. Africans people are too uneducated to comprehend the strategic concept of a stealth invasion.
As of 2021, 2 Million Chinese are living in Africa... in 2023, it has to be much higher.
Wow beautiful 😍❤️😍❤️
Congratulation brother, the content is taking off
Thank you big brother
This my kind of place
This houses a overpriced on buying price but rightly priced rent wise, currently, 100k USD is equivalent to 138 million kenyan shilling, you would get a haven for such amount of money in terms of a house in Kenya, yet, Kenyan economy is strong that that of TZ
Its933 am in the USA why are the houses empty it very beautiful 🌸
I didn’t know kigamboni had this part😆, why are they not promoting on e-commerce apps? I only see masaki , oysterbay and mikocheni
Who's ready to spend 4hrs on traffic only to reach there?
@@khaledeponera6070 the traffic is far worse in Dar es Salaam. Everytime that I have made the journey it hasn't taken more than 30 minutes from the Kigamboni ferry. You don't need to take your car into the city centre.
They lack the vision
@@gordy21 true.
I’m guessing based on the prices these homes was built for foreigners, not the locals..
Demand dictates the value of the houses. If no one is buying them, at current prices, they are not worth the current price.
This place looks nice , but it has not any basics lile sidewalks for residents to walk on
Location is an issue. Most people living in Kigamboni are having a hard time going to and from town due to distance.
With other factors combined, could result to the abandonment
What kind of distances I wonder? Nairobians have those of even 50kms daily and public transportation works somewhat
The community is in the middle of nowhere. It’s not desirable so it can’t really over priced, anyone who accidentally buys any of these houses should be prepared to own the house forever.
It's like it's behind God's back. But if I loved there I would invest.
Woooh our country is beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤
It's very sad. I was going to move there. I still would love to live there but it needs people. No gym it's empty. The pool is beautiful. The homes are lovely
But I think all services remained as it is. Because there are some people living there
Well, if you don’t move there who will. You move 1st encourage your friends and family to move before you know it. The place is filled up.
It's not totally empty there I hope you will go and become my aunt's neighbour. There are some two more families I know that live there😊😊😊
@@carinawolfram3280 I didn’t say it is totally empty
@@carinawolfram3280 Of course I didn’t say it is totally Empty. By the way Soon I will be Your Aunt’s Neighbor 😂
It will fill up slowly and gradually. In china I saw ghost cities, but after some years they filled up.
Yeah sometimes maybe they know what they are doing
I think they just need to add amenities (supermarket, restaurants, cafés, post office and medical centre). Maybe even build a small primary school or something if this is aimed at Tanzanians and not tourists
Wapi waKenya....this would be fully occupied in a flash!!!!!
But everything would be fake.
Am living in this country and the only community is marketed and known is Fumba Town of Zanzibar. This one never heard at all.
Nice homes it has to be something more to it
It's because Tanzanians like living together...like in communities ...ujamaa
Tanzanians laws are not investor friendly and Tanzanians hate foreigners. Unlike Uganda, Rwanda or Kenya where you can invest easily and start a business as a foreigner as you can buy a property in these countries. Tanzanians are very hostile to foreigners and they are anti-development people
Beautiful! My 2 BR 2.5 BA townhouse in the US was $148K 6 years ago and would sell for twice that much today. If I could get a house of that size here for those prices? Oh well. It’s a nice dream.
nice houses.
Wode maya must come that side and promote it too
Yeah that’s good
beautiful community
Yeah 👍✅
So beautiful indeed
Price and quality of those properties they look cheap from exterior to interior but price is crazy people opt to built for themselves.
for Tanzania the price is higher if you have that money you can build a super nice house than that, that's why they abandoned.
Most people who are capable of affording such properties are easily foreigners but then again, the immigration laws in Tanzania is very strict therefore I suggest real estate companies need to team up with the government to come up with a better way of attracting FDI by consolidating on some of their migration laws. The Greeks did it and several other countries have also done it, including Ghana!
Well said brother
Hi iwish this house was in kenya iwuold be number one even today to ornd one. Nime shanga na wa to.
Naona wakenya wana utamaduni wa kununua nyumba japo wapo pia wanaojenga wenyewe. Asilimia kubwa ya watanzania wanajenga
Yes ! I too feel there was something wrong in the marketing strategy..its still not late if I had the opportunity to promote it ,I will get the whole place full in 3 months
Such beautiful houses, would love to be there ! ❤ Thanks for sharing.
Wow ooo I like those houses I'm from America but way of Liberia yes I need one of those I'm gonna put on my FBpage ok peace and blessings one day we probably meet somewhere my brother peace and blessings beyond measure 🙏 ✨️ 🙌
$300 per month for that 3/4 bed home. What a deal!!!!
Nice homes but if a grocery store is not in walking or driving distance it's a pass for me.
Is there good medical care and is the government stable? These are my primary concerns as i considering leaving the US.
I guess it was too expensive for people to purchase, far from Town and Serious Services
I think the issue is likely the location.
If it was close enough to economic centres and good economic facilities,, people would have loved it
But it seems to be a great distance from the dense city
Were they afraid to build sidewalks for pedestrians?
Expensive for Tanzania people
Such things make countries like Kenya and Ghana more attractive to investors. If this was in Kenya 50km from Nairobi CBD, the investor will sell out all houses for double the price before the project is completed. Tanzania is good for tourism but as a business destination it has a long way to go and it should start with its laws on land tenure. The socialist history (Ujamaa) of the country is largely to blame
Is it for sale? We are a family office syndicate and my group would buy this if it’s for sale? Can someone put me in touch with the proper authorities
If this was in Kenya all the houses will be occupied. Majority of Kenyans in high class and middle class love such life.
Here we can buy a piece of land and build a house and live there a life time, unlike Kenya where minorities have got huge land than the rest
Majority of Tanzanians like owning houses, an average Tanzania youth when he start making money he first build a home...
@@emazjassam2452 The stress of a mortgage is a killer
@@emazjassam2452 Tanzanians laws are not investor friendly and Tanzanians hate foreigners. Unlike Uganda, Rwanda or Kenya where you can invest easily and start a business as a foreigner as you can buy a property in these countries. Tanzanians are very hostile to foreigners and they are anti-development people
But in Kenya the occupants would probably quickly be evacuated because the government printer didn't function or something of this sort.
Why don’t you open this up petition the government we have such a hard time doing anything we wait for others to do it
Its really worth it for the amenities it provides. In Kenya it would be 200m Tshs to start
I think so brother
Nyumba nzuri sana, Ila hiyo bei 230ml ni tatizo. Good inspiring channel. Keep going.
Thank you ndugu🙏
Hapo milioni 200 unajenga nyumba yako nzuri sana katika eneo unalopenda wewe unaiweka unavyotaka na chenji inabaki. Lakini nadhani kikubwa sio hela ni kwamba watanzania wana utamaduni wa kujenga nyumba zao. Mradi huu ungefaa sana kwa watanzania wanaoishi nje ambao hawataki mambo ya kutuma hela kwa ndugu akujengee
@@saidaM4224 Hapo umenena dada. Waliotakiwa kusimamia marketing wamefeli
I would love to see the inside of the houses
Hope next time dear
White Elephant project. What a waste on the investment. The laws do not permit rentals or foreigners to buy?
Beautiful place. Please keep promoting Africa, it is a beautiful continent that the vast majority of the people of the rest of the world have never been there and know very little about. The majority of the people know of Africa only what the media portraits, a big very poor place full of disease.
Please use your channel to promote Africa and show its beauty and splendor
Majority of africans do not know how their own countries and other african countries look like. All that due to colonalization from past and colonalization in new forms nowdays. Africans must enjoy the continent first!
Ofcourse it is a continent full of tropical diseases and diseases caused by dirty water, malaria, flies, parasites, bilharzia. It is a reality. Those houses are not luxorious. Maybe unprotected and far away from hospital, school, jobb, police, komunikations. The nature is beautiful and it is best if it remains untouched. The ocean around Africa is empted with fish, big trailers live plastics in the water instead and the fish is taken to China as a food for pigs. While african fishermans are poor and get only a smal fish on a table. Africa has to stop thinking about luxory. Best is if you think about massive educations on all levels and own factories so that Africa can be free once for all!
Beautiful area. I wonder why those properties are not occupied. I love me some luxurious house in a quite area like that
Bwana Runda, Karen, Kitisuru is full here in Kenya
Would be interesting to know what the real challenge is. At $100,000.00 they actually are quite competitively priced. Maybe you can investigate further to get a clearer perspective, rope in the developers and market players to get their opinion...
I reside in kigamboni..to me ithink the problem is not distance from the city centre ,,too many people live very far from ferry..the real problem here is the price ..I have lived in kigamboni for five years now,and from my observation most people are low income earners and I mean alot..that is also why if you observe from ferry their is kms and kms of ocean shores and not one high end hotels in sight..and for a fact if your are a developer here you will make tons of money building guest houses and lodge than hotels..I think the Chinese didn't these factor into consideration while investing in these areas
Beautiful houses indeed
The place look familiar, from lava lava and rayvan music wcb
Your right