I still hate the idea of anyone reprising Han Solo. still think this movie is a bad idea, and ONE movie makes me cringe. Would much rather have Obi-Wan or old Republic.
Totally agree with you, I'm still very uncomfortable about the idea and I don't there's any way to overcome it. I don't understand why they couldn't create a new character instead, people would have still gone to see the movie, it's Star Wars. Lack of ambition.
Han Solo is sacred territory. If the script is as good as they say, then I'm sure I will enjoy it. That said I really wish they wouldn't. They could do something else that we would enjoy that didn't step on the very dear feelings and memories we all have for Han Solo as we know him.
for the love of all things holy. there are so many better things to make movie about than a Han solo trilogy: boba fett, starkiller, sifo dyas, obiwan, kanan origin, mandalore, the old republic, republic commando, KNIGHTS OF REN, Skywalker establishing new order, populist v centrist political intrigue, lando, windu. I came up with these in about 30 seconds off the top of my head. they have people that are paid to know canon and could come up with 100 better ideas
campia is ok. he gets fired up and says alot of stuff that is not right. he can be a killjoy. his opinion dropped alot to me with his bvs review. he said the movie had to do 3 things and that is it. what? how can you judge a movie with it having 3 things. that is alot of bull.
The Evans cameo in Thor didn't count against his contract. I remember Feige saying that. Evens just did it because he is the greatest man ever... I like Chris Evans.
Watch Clone Wars Season 6. Qui Gon speaks to Yoda through the force and tells Yoda that he can't appear physically as he didn't master the training of becoming one with the force. Yoda, Obi Wan, and Anakin, did succeed where Qui Gon didn't.
2 Star Wars movies a year could happen. Look @ the MCU slate if it was 1 a year Iron Man (2008) The Incredible Hulk (2009) Iron Man 2 (2010) Thor (2011) Captain America: The First Avenger (2012) Marvel's The Avengers (2013) Iron Man 3 (2014) Thor: The Dark World (2015) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2016) Guardians of the Galaxy (2017) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2018) Ant-Man (2019) Captain America: Civil War (2020) Doctor Strange (2021) Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2 (2022) Spider-Man: Homecoming (2023) Thor: Ragnarok (2024) Black Panther (2025) Avengers: Infinity War Part I (2026) Ant-Man and the Wasp (2027) Captain Marvel (2028) Avengers: Infinity War Part II (2029)
I think Disney's gameplan is to use established characters to launch new characters. So this Han Solo movie will introduce you to some new pilot/smuggler/bounty hunter who can then carry his/her own movie. Or they'll introduce you to a new setting (e.g. a secret society or special ops team) that can be explored in greater detail in another spinoff. Personally, I want to see more genre expansion. I'd love to see a Shane Black-style action-comedy in the SW universe or a contained action-horror like Predator on some distant SW planet.
No matter how much we want an Old Republic movie though, Disney will most likely continue to ignore that request in favor of more original trilogy era stuff. It's a shame. Personally I think some of the best Star Wars stories and characters came from the Old Republic era.
@Domenic Let's not be overly dramatic. Disneys owned Lucasfilm for only 4 years and released just 1 film. Its not like they've put out 20 movies and just announced a Jar Jar binks stand alone, give them time.
@Joe Of course they are starting with the OT why would you start with something that only hardcore fans really know about? The fact that they just made Thrawn cannon shows they are listening to the fans and know what they want.
Mark Ellis! Very true! No one can write that music or come up with so many themes, huge iconic ones or small little motifs for different characters. How he makes each planet sound different in cases where i's important to the inner most turmoil of certain characters. He never writes stock music, it always has a purpose and always has a direction!
Bodhi, or the Temple of the Arts was one of nine temples of the Je'daii Order located on the southern coast of Masara, a continent on the verdant world of Tython. A two-story structure, the temple at Bodhi served as the Order's academy for the arts, instructing students in the ways of writing, calligraphy, dancing, drawing, sculpture, cooking, music, and theater. here per the legends of star wars is the meaning of the name of Bodhi
A Han Solo trilogy would be better than an obi wan trilogy. BUT, a single Obi-Wan movie would be better than a Han Solo movie. That being said, I'd rather have 1 of each and then move on to other characters and stories.
Why are they suggesting that Luke's green crystal could have been originally from Qui Gon's saber (about hour mark)? I thought - in Heir to Jedi Luke finds a green light saber in a Rodian's tomb, who was an uncle to his companion. Its strange as they are talking about this book minutes before. Maybe they didnt get to this part - to be fair it was utter garbage.
Is there some sort of plate reverb that's new or turned up in your audio line in the studio there? It sounds really weird. That aside I've been watching this show for over a year now and always enjoy it!
MARK ELLIS the empire's lasers are all GREEN minus blasters. The Rebellion has RED lasers. The green in the Death Trooper's helmet makes more sense than red.
I imagine the Vader reveal as: Rebels are kicking ass, tide starts to turn and the storm troopers start to retreat. Rebels chasing them, blasters, troopers falling. Shot of storm troopers running across the screen, then down to just their feet and from one side enters Vaders feet and he tip of a red light saber walking the opposite direction, towards the rebels.
That was a great question about if Leia felt Han's death or Ben's descent worse, I never would have thought beyond her feeling Han's death, since that is what we were feeling, but I think I agree that it was the combo, her Husband (who she really does love a lot, even though they were a bit estranged at the time) dying, and it was done by her son, which hurts, and also knowing your child is making such horrible choices is something only a parent could get how devastating that would be. I like Mark2D2's description of 'the effect that the combined events has on the force'
As far as HaydenChristensen goes (and for once I am so glad Campea wasn't on this episode today to shit all over Hayden being in Ep 8 or Ep 9), I say save him for either Ep 8 or Ep 9. And I personally would love to see is the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appear to Kylo Ren a lot more than I would like to see him appear to Luke and/or Rey. I would hope the Force Ghost of Anakin would appear to all three of them to be honest if Hayden is cast in either Ep 8 or Ep 9. I'd love to see another scene where Kylo Ren is talking to Darth Vader's helmet, asking Vader to show him the Dark Side again & telling Vader he's felt the pull to the Light again. And just as Kylo Ren says he's felt the pull to the Light again, that's when the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appears & tells Kylo Ren that HE was the pull to the Light that Kylo Ren felt. That it was he-his Grandfather-that was trying to get Ben Solo to see the Light again. Have Anakin tell Kylo Ren to stop worshiping his mistakes & go back to the Light like he did. Like I said, I would like to see the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appear to Luke & Rey, but I'd like to see him appear to Kylo Ren even more. Especially if the reported plot line of Ep 8 turns out to be true. There's a specific point in which Anakin appearing to Kylo Ren would come at the perfect time given what's happened & just how is being held prisoner on Kylo Ren's ship. I also think that under different direction & a better script, that Hayden Christensen will do a great job too. I am really hoping they've secretly cast Hayden in either Ep 8 or Ep 9. That's the best way to do it too-keep it a secret & have it be a huge surprise in either Ep 8 or Ep 9.
Disney should spend more time watching this channel to stay in touch with fan sentiment and expectations. I'm with Mark Ellis on the Han Solo potential: do it but don't over-egg the personality pudding. BTW, Tiffany, you're looking great as usual and love to have your input in the council. Your natural look is my favorite. Thanks Collider for this vital resource.
Except that most people attending Star Wars Celebration did not see the Vader shot in the Rogue One 'trailer'. Even though the panel was screened throughout the halls, that particular bit was not shown outside of the main hall hosting the live panel. Instead, we poor peons who had not been able to get wristbands to get in, saw the same R1 featurette THREE times instead. There were a lot of really, really mad people that afternoon...
NO TRILOGY! One film is enough! I prefer an Obi Wan film than a Han Solo film. What majority of the Star Wars fans want is a film(s) about The Old Republic era. A film about Bane, Revan, or any other significant and badass character. Anything really as long as long as it's in the Old Republic.
There's so much you could do with Obi Wan. Just because his overall mission is to protect Luke doesn't mean he has to stay planted near the Lars homestead-- or even on Tatooine.
It is also the smartest time to get Alden to sign on, before he becomes the next big star like Boyega and Ridley are now, because right now he's still thinking "I can't believe I get to play Han!". After that film is huge his agent will be wanting to negotiate the best deal possible. Let's face it, most of us would do it for no money, but once we ARE Han Solo then we re-think "how big should my slice of the pie be?". Then there's the history of Harrison Ford who wanted out while shooting Empire. Not to say he would follow suit but you never really know what all lies in his future and he may not be as jazzed about a third time around down the road.
A story for Luke finding Qui-Gon's crystal is probably not very complex. When Qui-Gon died, Obi-Wan took his lightsaber (and used it to slice up Darth Maul). We already know Luke gets Obi-Wan's journal on Tatooine, and likely used it to build the lightsaber right before Return of the Jedi. Obi-Wan probably mentions where to find Qui-Gon's saber. Or he had it in his house (less likely, given he probably wouldn't have had it on him when he went into exile. He might have taken it to a Qui-Gon memorial or a Jedi temple, and we know Luke was looking for Jedi temples, so ...)
I want the final fight to be the rebels trying to get the plans to the tantive iv or whatever on scarif, where they manage to gain an upper hand before vader comes in his tie fighter, perhaps with a couple other guys, they blow most of the x-wings out of the sky and then Darth vader lands (or jumps out of his tie as it's still flying) and cuts down a load of rebels for about a minute, after thirty seconds or so, a load of stormtroopers continue to flood the rebels, forcing them back further. And there they all start dying slowly, each individually sacrificing themselves to buy some more time in order to safely get the plan to leia and antilles, maybe Saw (if there) has a brief fight with Vader dying to the one who trained him.
It'd be Obi Wan for sure. So much time passed from the extinction of the Jedi to a New Hope and they can go to different worlds and make it smaller more contained and go in many different directions with it. Han was young when we meet him, we see his entire journey right to the end his arc is complete.
I really think the main reason people want an obi Wan movie is because he's the only main character from the prequels that can come back and give us something better. we didn't get any of Ben kenobi on adventures in the original and the prequels were a dissapointment so we're really wanting a redo.
first let me say this: Tiffany obviously knows a LOT about the inner workings of the film industry in general, she is obviously a HUGE Star Wars fan, she is a very good on camera/entertainment reporting personality, but OH WOW when she speculates on Star Wars plot points I just want to throw my phone across the room. But I still love ya Smith Lord.
As big as Star Wars is, a trilogy is kinda pushing it for either one tbh. There is so much other ground to cover. If I had to choose, I'd say Solo. I'm pretty sure he was up to a lot more adventures than Kenobi.
Luke post Jedi eh?! Just take Sebastian Stan, give him a proper haircut and you got your Luke post Jedi movie. The voice thing could be tricky, but Mark could do a voice over i guess. That would be a really cool standalone film! He is a freaking clone of Mark Hamill under proper makeup!
Totally agree, but not just cuz he looks like him, he's a good actor. Can handle emotional scenes, action scenes, lighthearted scenes, can handle the gravitas and vulnerability of the character.
I take back my comment about the voice... he is almost spot on the same as Mark. An older or even a younger Luke pre jedi would be awesome. Man he is perfect! Give him a film to do sooner than later!
+Bruno Bernier The only thing that would be tough is working around his marvel films. Though he's not a main character, who knows why not - I think his character is one of the more complex of the MCU, the filming for the marvel films and star wars films would have to be planned perfectly, depending on how much focus future marvel films will have on the winter soldier/bucky Barnes. One of the reasons I think there hasn't been a winter soldier film is because he is too dark for what the MCU is selling right now. Even natasha's story has been watered down. Makes me a little sad that these comic book movies won't be made more for adult audiences with more intense themes. A darker winter soldier or black widow movie would be awesome. OK, tangent over now.
Yoda in Ep III sensed Anakin turning to the dark side, which caused him to stumble a bit. The scene is very similar to how they showed Leia react to Han's death, which made me think that maybe she sensed Kylo's further turn to the dark side.
Hey, great show! Keep up great work! Luke got Qui-Gon's crystal from Qui-Gons lightsaber that Obi Wan kept from Episode I and had stashed at his home on Tatooien. Luke got back and revisits after Empire. Saw that theory on one of the other Star Wars You Tube channels. I like the Theory. hope they make it cannon
By the new canon and the old for me post OT I have to say (again just IMO) Timothy Zahn. The man is responsible for one of my favorite book trilogies and he may not of kicked off the EU but he perfected it and without him who knows if it would ever have been so big of a thing. He really kept Star Wars alive post OT. I mean how sweet would it have been to see movies of these if they could have done them at the time? All that said love the new stuff and i am going crazy waiting for Rebels and Rogue One.
Obi wan could have ton of adventures confrontation with jabba, return of maul for revenge space pirates you can do tons of stuff I WANT THE KNIGHTS OF REN FILM but is adam driver gonna play Ben solo or go with a young ben solo
is it not true that kyber crystals in new cannon are clear and the color is determined by the force of the user connected to it. In theory as a jedi or sith progress through their connection with the force the color of the saber could change from blue to green even to red to reflect their connection without having to change crystals. also would Obi-Wan used Jinns Saber to defeat maul in episode 1. stands to reason he kept it in his chest on tatooine and Luke found it just before episode 6 while looking for components for his new saber??
I think they need to move to Old Republic, they need to take chances rather than expanding on already known characters imo. Even though more than one young Han Solo film interests me more than an older Obi Wan trilogy.
Isn't it routine for Disney to do multi-movie contracts with actors if they see potential with them? For all we know, this could just be a cameo in a Boba Fett movie, or a Marvel movie, or another live-action adaptation of a Disney animated movie. Sometimes Disney doesn't even use the other movies in actors' contracts. Don't blow things out of proportion just yet.
Minor point but if I remember correctly Chris Evans did the cameo in Thor as a favor and wasn't part of his multi-picture deal. My hope for the Han Solo movie is that the it ends with Han getting a face change to hide from Jabba and they CG his new look as young Harrison Ford... and maybe Greedo finding out.
I'm ok if we don't see Han in Rogue One but what would be cool is if we see a young Lando flying the Millennium Falcon. We already know that he used to own the ship.
What you talking about Mark Ellis?! Jet black & emerald green have always complimented each other, that Shadow Trooper looks like a boss. The Rebels have more of a forest green colour.
Damn, am I the only one who really enjoyed Heir to the Jedi? Young Luke is annoying, but it was interesting seeing his development as a person, a student of the force and as a pilot. His relationship with Nakari was enjoyable, as well. It was a little slow in the middle, I'll give you that...
I do not like the idea of a Han Solo trilogy. First, where will this one take place in the timeline? By the time we get to the second and third, how close will be to when he meets Obi Wan and Luke? And by that time, how old will Alden look? I think Obi Wan would be a better choice because there is so much time that passed that he could easily have had adventures on Tatooine or another planet. Since he lives so far out something could happen there and Luke would never know. I agree with Kristian and I would like to see them expand the universe. If they happen to use Alden in some other movie that doesn't necessarily focus all on him I think that would be a little better.
I also wouldn't care for a trilogy based on Han or Obiwan. That said if I had to choose I would say Kenobi has, I think, a greater, richer history to cover. I don't know how you could fill three films with some smuggling, space-racing, and various scoundreling, but it would be fun for one movie or perhaps another TV series.
I agree with Christian, give Hayden some love! And I would have much rather had a Obi Wan Movie, but I guess they are waiting for McGregor to get gray hair or something. I wish they would do a Obi Wan prequel on Mandalore, as long as he actually still has some hair.
I want to see Shaows of the Empire made Canon with a one-off film between Empire and Jedi. Give me Dash Rendar, Xizor, and the Outrider. Great story and characters that won't take away from the existing Star Wars Universe.
I think for me, I would really like to see the Sequel trilogy end on a happy but uncertain note. Like say, the First Order is defeated and the Jedi are back for good this time. But Snoke and his new Sith/dark Jedi are still in the picture (whether that's Kylo and the Knights of Ren, idk) and on the rise, now they're just transitioning to phase two. Or maybe Plan B. I would also much prefer Rey developing into a more neutral Grey Jedi kind of figure. I really hope we see her struggle with the Dark Side in Ep 8 and I feel like we will, but instead of going full-on Sith, I would like to see her reject both Jedi and Sith ideals and end Ep 9 on an uncertain path, with her relationships with her friends somewhat in shambles, where nobody knows where she's gonna end up. And then some other new prominent Jedi Knight (Finn??) could take leadership over the new Jedi Order and start laying the foundations. Perhaps not that specific, but you get what I mean. I'd love to see more of a third Grey Jedi-like faction and I would love to see Rey develop into a more neutral and uncertain kind of character role than straight up Sith or Jedi. That leaves a lot of potential and a lot of ground to cover for the next trilogy, or hell, the next /two/ trilogies, if they play their cards right.
Kristian is so right about the age thing. every time they say "young Han Solo" I'm like... he was relatively young in A New Hope? How young are they gonna go?
Best P.R. Kennedy Best Management Iger Best Overall Talent Filony (Fan Service King meant in a good way. . . truly grateful for him) They are all the most important players. Each of these responsibilities are important.
They need to do KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC! !!!!!! enough with what we've seen from a different angle, give us the best stories the star wars universe have, KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC!
Why not let it stay as a video game series with a good, concise story? I guarantee it wouldn't translate well into a film, regardless of how they made it.
+Hendrick.Lamar I wouldn't make it just one big movie, there were lots of other stories besides revan's regaining memory and blasting the star forge. you could make 3 very solid, force wielding, jedi/sith movies easy out of it. but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll watch whatever comes out!
I think the comics/books are loose canon at best. They'll never have a major plot point impact onto one of the movies due to potential alienation of the general viewer. Love the books but think their weight in canon is overvalued. It's like they are there if you want to know more but in the end none of it will be that impactful.
In the first AfterMath Darth Sidious Advisor said Sidious Would Spend many day's just staring into the vastness of space when ask what was wrong he said i feel a strong pull in the force this pull was coming from out side are galaxy and it was strong and old. Sidious Built the Second Death Star to go investigate he also put up sensors on the outer rim to monitor this force. this force was Snoke
Liam Neeson and Ewan Mcgregor both have Sid they would love to reprise their roles. What if for an Obi Wan film we get to see these two before the events of Phantom Menance. The bond between the two was strong but it could become even stronger if we were to see them in action
Modern day, most important to Star Wars, yeah, Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy are high up there, with JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson being close behind. I would also look to people from the past like Ralph McQuarie or Lawrence Kasdan, or maybe John Williams. I would take nominations from the section in How Star Wars Conquered the Universe where he describes the first reel, and how many influences outside of George there are in that opening 10 minutes of A New Hope
With Luke's Light Saber Crystal, wasn't it actually an artificial crystal he took from Obi-wans hut. I think this was in the novel as well as a deleted scene from the movie. However, didn't they just change canon so that each crystal now is colorless until a Jedi sets that color into the crystal, and it is always that color afterwards. Not 100% on that. As Always enjoyed the show.
What I don't like, is that they have the same type of armies in this new trilogy. I was expecting a whole new type of armies on both the good and the bad sides. In Episodes I to III we got clones and droids, Episodes IV to VI we got stormtroopers and rebels and we basically got those again in the new trilogy, just slightly updated. I wanted to see whole new types of armies, so I really hope they don't keep the stormtroopers or rebel-type looking people in Episodes 10 to 12.
Disney shouldn't waste their time on a whole new trilogy where the primary focus is Han Solo. What I think they should do is make another Rogue One esk film that takes place between episodes 4 and 5, and have the new Han involved that way. How'd be become a general, what was his command style like, did he ever personally run a fleet or base? That kind of stuff I could see, where he isn't the focus but he is involved in another film. But no, I don't want to see Han Solo the movies, episodes 1, 2 and 3.
I still hate the idea of anyone reprising Han Solo. still think this movie is a bad idea, and ONE movie makes me cringe. Would much rather have Obi-Wan or old Republic.
Completely agree
Definitely
Imo it would work if they had Harrison start the film in a cantina talking about his past then go into alden
Totally agree with you, I'm still very uncomfortable about the idea and I don't there's any way to overcome it. I don't understand why they couldn't create a new character instead, people would have still gone to see the movie, it's Star Wars. Lack of ambition.
Han Solo is sacred territory. If the script is as good as they say, then I'm sure I will enjoy it. That said I really wish they wouldn't. They could do something else that we would enjoy that didn't step on the very dear feelings and memories we all have for Han Solo as we know him.
No one asked for a Han Solo movie and they gave us one. Everyone wants an Obi Wan movie, and there not doing shit
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i want neither
give us old republic
+Rick Prez yes please
True that.
WE NEED A YOUNG JAR JAR MOVIE TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST!!!
and a Jaba the Hutt/Salacious Crumb buddy cop movie
I'm desperately smashing the dislike button to your comment and nothing is happening... this is so frustrating!!! xD
Rogue Qall Jar Jar was the chosen one
How about a Darth Jar Jar movie?
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for the love of all things holy. there are so many better things to make movie about than a Han solo trilogy: boba fett, starkiller, sifo dyas, obiwan, kanan origin, mandalore, the old republic, republic commando, KNIGHTS OF REN, Skywalker establishing new order, populist v centrist political intrigue, lando, windu. I came up with these in about 30 seconds off the top of my head. they have people that are paid to know canon and could come up with 100 better ideas
I agree, a boba fett bounty hunter type movie would be amazing.
Sifo dyas story would be interesting.
Give me that Knights of Ren film now please.
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Darth Julius Vader is literally how I refer to him now. hahaha
*Jedi Council without Campea it's not the same :/*
where did he go?
As long as Kristian is there, I'm cool. He could be by himself with two fuckin potted plants on the council, and I would be good.
campia is ok. he gets fired up and says alot of stuff that is not right. he can be a killjoy. his opinion dropped alot to me with his bvs review. he said the movie had to do 3 things and that is it. what? how can you judge a movie with it having 3 things. that is alot of bull.
yea, much more watchable.. without him
Yeah, it's great! xD
1 Han Solo Movie & 1 Obi-Wan Movie
How mind blowing who could've thought up something that makes 1000x more sense than than a Trilogy of either
Mark is wrong about Leia and Han. They were married. Kindred spirits the both of them but fully in love all the time even when apart.
agree
oh shit Kristian did some bad ass Vader scenario
The Evans cameo in Thor didn't count against his contract. I remember Feige saying that. Evens just did it because he is the greatest man ever... I like Chris Evans.
Liam Neeson as force ghost in Obiwan standalone.....yes pleeeaassee
I'd love it but Disney will never allow it
Definitely. Just hearing Liam Neeson reprising his role as Qui Gon's voice in final season of Star Wars the Clone Wars was really awesome.
+peterthesneakybastar well Qui Gon couldn't appear as a force ghost because he never finished the training so...
+Grand Moff Evers What are you talking about? He can appear as a force ghost and he did finish Obi Wan's training
Watch Clone Wars Season 6. Qui Gon speaks to Yoda through the force and tells Yoda that he can't appear physically as he didn't master the training of becoming one with the force. Yoda, Obi Wan, and Anakin, did succeed where Qui Gon didn't.
That Chris Evans scene in The Dark World did not count as one of his movies in his contract.
love the smith lord she is so beautiful and that smile. she looks good
2 Star Wars movies a year could happen. Look @ the MCU slate if it was 1 a year
Iron Man (2008)
The Incredible Hulk (2009)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Thor (2011)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2012)
Marvel's The Avengers (2013)
Iron Man 3 (2014)
Thor: The Dark World (2015)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2016)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2017)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2018)
Ant-Man (2019)
Captain America: Civil War (2020)
Doctor Strange (2021)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2 (2022)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2023)
Thor: Ragnarok (2024)
Black Panther (2025)
Avengers: Infinity War Part I (2026)
Ant-Man and the Wasp (2027)
Captain Marvel (2028)
Avengers: Infinity War Part II (2029)
those dates are like 75% wrong lol
+Josh Harrison he's done it if it was only one a year!
+Josh Harrison lmao😂 they are
+Josh Harrison Bruh I'm trying to make a point
tom devinney what's your point?
I think Disney's gameplan is to use established characters to launch new characters. So this Han Solo movie will introduce you to some new pilot/smuggler/bounty hunter who can then carry his/her own movie. Or they'll introduce you to a new setting (e.g. a secret society or special ops team) that can be explored in greater detail in another spinoff.
Personally, I want to see more genre expansion. I'd love to see a Shane Black-style action-comedy in the SW universe or a contained action-horror like Predator on some distant SW planet.
No matter how much we want an Old Republic movie though, Disney will most likely continue to ignore that request in favor of more original trilogy era stuff. It's a shame. Personally I think some of the best Star Wars stories and characters came from the Old Republic era.
@Domenic Let's not be overly dramatic. Disneys owned Lucasfilm for only 4 years and released just 1 film. Its not like they've put out 20 movies and just announced a Jar Jar binks stand alone, give them time.
@Joe Of course they are starting with the OT why would you start with something that only hardcore fans really know about? The fact that they just made Thrawn cannon shows they are listening to the fans and know what they want.
How about no Han Solo trilogy but a single movie, with my own single movie, and a Boba Fett movie then an Old Republic movie?
CavemanJesus4Life Patience, my friend. Boba Fett has a lot of ground to cover from Clone Wars to ESB
Mark Ellis! Very true! No one can write that music or come up with so many themes, huge iconic ones or small little motifs for different characters. How he makes each planet sound different in cases where i's important to the inner most turmoil of certain characters. He never writes stock music, it always has a purpose and always has a direction!
Bodhi, or the Temple of the Arts was one of nine temples of the Je'daii Order located on the southern coast of Masara, a continent on the verdant world of Tython. A two-story structure, the temple at Bodhi served as the Order's academy for the arts, instructing students in the ways of writing, calligraphy, dancing, drawing, sculpture, cooking, music, and theater.
here per the legends of star wars is the meaning of the name of Bodhi
A Han Solo trilogy would be better than an obi wan trilogy. BUT, a single Obi-Wan movie would be better than a Han Solo movie. That being said, I'd rather have 1 of each and then move on to other characters and stories.
Why are they suggesting that Luke's green crystal could have been originally from Qui Gon's saber (about hour mark)? I thought - in Heir to Jedi Luke finds a green light saber in a Rodian's tomb, who was an uncle to his companion. Its strange as they are talking about this book minutes before. Maybe they didnt get to this part - to be fair it was utter garbage.
I still want an Obi Wan movie man!!!!!
Is there some sort of plate reverb that's new or turned up in your audio line in the studio there? It sounds really weird. That aside I've been watching this show for over a year now and always enjoy it!
From what they showed of K-2S0, I'm really excited for a dead pan / bad ass droid
Same I feel like he's gonna be the break out character even though it looks like there isn't a ton of focus on him
I really want him to be like HK-47
MARK ELLIS the empire's lasers are all GREEN minus blasters. The Rebellion has RED lasers. The green in the Death Trooper's helmet makes more sense than red.
I imagine the Vader reveal as: Rebels are kicking ass, tide starts to turn and the storm troopers start to retreat. Rebels chasing them, blasters, troopers falling. Shot of storm troopers running across the screen, then down to just their feet and from one side enters Vaders feet and he tip of a red light saber walking the opposite direction, towards the rebels.
That was a great question about if Leia felt Han's death or Ben's descent worse, I never would have thought beyond her feeling Han's death, since that is what we were feeling, but I think I agree that it was the combo, her Husband (who she really does love a lot, even though they were a bit estranged at the time) dying, and it was done by her son, which hurts, and also knowing your child is making such horrible choices is something only a parent could get how devastating that would be. I like Mark2D2's description of 'the effect that the combined events has on the force'
As far as HaydenChristensen goes (and for once I am so glad Campea wasn't on this episode today to shit all over Hayden being in Ep 8 or Ep 9), I say save him for either Ep 8 or Ep 9. And I personally would love to see is the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appear to Kylo Ren a lot more than I would like to see him appear to Luke and/or Rey. I would hope the Force Ghost of Anakin would appear to all three of them to be honest if Hayden is cast in either Ep 8 or Ep 9.
I'd love to see another scene where Kylo Ren is talking to Darth Vader's helmet, asking Vader to show him the Dark Side again & telling Vader he's felt the pull to the Light again. And just as Kylo Ren says he's felt the pull to the Light again, that's when the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appears & tells Kylo Ren that HE was the pull to the Light that Kylo Ren felt. That it was he-his Grandfather-that was trying to get Ben Solo to see the Light again. Have Anakin tell Kylo Ren to stop worshiping his mistakes & go back to the Light like he did.
Like I said, I would like to see the Force Ghost of Anakin Skywalker appear to Luke & Rey, but I'd like to see him appear to Kylo Ren even more. Especially if the reported plot line of Ep 8 turns out to be true. There's a specific point in which Anakin appearing to Kylo Ren would come at the perfect time given what's happened & just how is being held prisoner on Kylo Ren's ship.
I also think that under different direction & a better script, that Hayden Christensen will do a great job too. I am really hoping they've secretly cast Hayden in either Ep 8 or Ep 9. That's the best way to do it too-keep it a secret & have it be a huge surprise in either Ep 8 or Ep 9.
I completely agree with all of this. It would be great to see him again in ep 8 or 9
If Rey turns out to be related to Obi Wan it even opens the doors even more for more stories with him
A week without Collider Jedi Council is like a year without Christmas.
Hmm..."Bodi has a history to it". Could it be....Cody? As is Commander?? Probably not, but it would be cool.
10/10 lightsaber impression Harloff 👏
14:43 that's a pretty nice lightsaber sound
Disney should spend more time watching this channel to stay in touch with fan sentiment and expectations.
I'm with Mark Ellis on the Han Solo potential: do it but don't over-egg the personality pudding.
BTW, Tiffany, you're looking great as usual and love to have your input in the council. Your natural look is my favorite.
Thanks Collider for this vital resource.
Hayden Christiansen - totally, no problem, love to see him again in the role
hmm, Chuck Wendig and Aftermath... that's some unfortunate outcome - would have preferred Claudia Gray or James Luceno write this critical canon
I like the idea of standalone films between the saga episodes, or a long wait between installments. Han Solo doesn't need constant movies.
I thought Luke's saber was synthetic. Heard he made it himself.
Except that most people attending Star Wars Celebration did not see the Vader shot in the Rogue One 'trailer'. Even though the panel was screened throughout the halls, that particular bit was not shown outside of the main hall hosting the live panel. Instead, we poor peons who had not been able to get wristbands to get in, saw the same R1 featurette THREE times instead. There were a lot of really, really mad people that afternoon...
NO TRILOGY! One film is enough! I prefer an Obi Wan film than a Han Solo film. What majority of the Star Wars fans want is a film(s) about The Old Republic era. A film about Bane, Revan, or any other significant and badass character. Anything really as long as long as it's in the Old Republic.
Thanks for another great show! Tiffany - cool shirt. Ellis - Darth Julius Vader... just asking for a meme.
There's so much you could do with Obi Wan. Just because his overall mission is to protect Luke doesn't mean he has to stay planted near the Lars homestead-- or even on Tatooine.
It is also the smartest time to get Alden to sign on, before he becomes the next big star like Boyega and Ridley are now, because right now he's still thinking "I can't believe I get to play Han!". After that film is huge his agent will be wanting to negotiate the best deal possible. Let's face it, most of us would do it for no money, but once we ARE Han Solo then we re-think "how big should my slice of the pie be?". Then there's the history of Harrison Ford who wanted out while shooting Empire. Not to say he would follow suit but you never really know what all lies in his future and he may not be as jazzed about a third time around down the road.
A story for Luke finding Qui-Gon's crystal is probably not very complex. When Qui-Gon died, Obi-Wan took his lightsaber (and used it to slice up Darth Maul). We already know Luke gets Obi-Wan's journal on Tatooine, and likely used it to build the lightsaber right before Return of the Jedi.
Obi-Wan probably mentions where to find Qui-Gon's saber. Or he had it in his house (less likely, given he probably wouldn't have had it on him when he went into exile. He might have taken it to a Qui-Gon memorial or a Jedi temple, and we know Luke was looking for Jedi temples, so ...)
I want the final fight to be the rebels trying to get the plans to the tantive iv or whatever on scarif, where they manage to gain an upper hand before vader comes in his tie fighter, perhaps with a couple other guys, they blow most of the x-wings out of the sky and then Darth vader lands (or jumps out of his tie as it's still flying) and cuts down a load of rebels for about a minute, after thirty seconds or so, a load of stormtroopers continue to flood the rebels, forcing them back further. And there they all start dying slowly, each individually sacrificing themselves to buy some more time in order to safely get the plan to leia and antilles, maybe Saw (if there) has a brief fight with Vader dying to the one who trained him.
It'd be Obi Wan for sure. So much time passed from the extinction of the Jedi to a New Hope and they can go to different worlds and make it smaller more contained and go in many different directions with it. Han was young when we meet him, we see his entire journey right to the end his arc is complete.
I really think the main reason people want an obi Wan movie is because he's the only main character from the prequels that can come back and give us something better. we didn't get any of Ben kenobi on adventures in the original and the prequels were a dissapointment so we're really wanting a redo.
love to see a movie from a siths point of view struggling with the light and ultimately turning to the jedi
first let me say this:
Tiffany obviously knows a LOT about the inner workings of the film industry in general, she is obviously a HUGE Star Wars fan, she is a very good on camera/entertainment reporting personality, but OH WOW when she speculates on Star Wars plot points I just want to throw my phone across the room. But I still love ya Smith Lord.
What kind of phone do you plan on throwing across the room?
Sithlord, wait 'til you're in your forties. Then you won't be so keen on movies coming every couple of years! lol
As big as Star Wars is, a trilogy is kinda pushing it for either one tbh. There is so much other ground to cover. If I had to choose, I'd say Solo. I'm pretty sure he was up to a lot more adventures than Kenobi.
Luke post Jedi eh?! Just take Sebastian Stan, give him a proper haircut and you got your Luke post Jedi movie. The voice thing could be tricky, but Mark could do a voice over i guess. That would be a really cool standalone film! He is a freaking clone of Mark Hamill under proper makeup!
I've been saying the same thing. Stan was meant to play a younger Luke Skywalker.
Totally agree, but not just cuz he looks like him, he's a good actor. Can handle emotional scenes, action scenes, lighthearted scenes, can handle the gravitas and vulnerability of the character.
I take back my comment about the voice... he is almost spot on the same as Mark. An older or even a younger Luke pre jedi would be awesome. Man he is perfect! Give him a film to do sooner than later!
+Bruno Bernier The only thing that would be tough is working around his marvel films. Though he's not a main character, who knows why not - I think his character is one of the more complex of the MCU, the filming for the marvel films and star wars films would have to be planned perfectly, depending on how much focus future marvel films will have on the winter soldier/bucky Barnes. One of the reasons I think there hasn't been a winter soldier film is because he is too dark for what the MCU is selling right now. Even natasha's story has been watered down. Makes me a little sad that these comic book movies won't be made more for adult audiences with more intense themes. A darker winter soldier or black widow movie would be awesome. OK, tangent over now.
Well something happens in civil war that sort of frees him from Marvel films so i am sure he would be happy to expand his spectrum of films...
Yoda in Ep III sensed Anakin turning to the dark side, which caused him to stumble a bit. The scene is very similar to how they showed Leia react to Han's death, which made me think that maybe she sensed Kylo's further turn to the dark side.
Obi Wan because you have Ewan Mcgregor. We dont have Harison Ford.
I'm not going to stop pitching my Boba Fett in the style of Terminator or Westworld movie! It would be great!
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"we're talkin' about football, we're talkin' about football" haha
Hey, great show! Keep up great work! Luke got Qui-Gon's crystal from Qui-Gons lightsaber that Obi Wan kept from Episode I and had stashed at his home on Tatooien. Luke got back and revisits after Empire. Saw that theory on one of the other Star Wars You Tube channels. I like the Theory. hope they make it cannon
We don't need prequels or origin stories for any of the original characters! Leave the back stories for the comics & books!
Mark Ellis is my spirit animal.
Gotta love Tiffany
By the new canon and the old for me post OT I have to say (again just IMO) Timothy Zahn. The man is responsible for one of my favorite book trilogies and he may not of kicked off the EU but he perfected it and without him who knows if it would ever have been so big of a thing. He really kept Star Wars alive post OT. I mean how sweet would it have been to see movies of these if they could have done them at the time? All that said love the new stuff and i am going crazy waiting for Rebels and Rogue One.
When I saw Mark Ellis' name at the bottom of the screen at 0:41 with Mark Reilly's face, I thought Mark-2-D-2 had been recast, too...
1:01:19 YES! I want all the books about Luke Skywalker, too!!
Obi wan could have ton of adventures confrontation with jabba, return of maul for revenge space pirates you can do tons of stuff I WANT THE KNIGHTS OF REN FILM but is adam driver gonna play Ben solo or go with a young ben solo
is it not true that kyber crystals in new cannon are clear and the color is determined by the force of the user connected to it. In theory as a jedi or sith progress through their connection with the force the color of the saber could change from blue to green even to red to reflect their connection without having to change crystals. also would Obi-Wan used Jinns Saber to defeat maul in episode 1. stands to reason he kept it in his chest on tatooine and Luke found it just before episode 6 while looking for components for his new saber??
I think they need to move to Old Republic, they need to take chances rather than expanding on already known characters imo. Even though more than one young Han Solo film interests me more than an older Obi Wan trilogy.
ben mendhelson was great in killing them softly,starred up and place beyond the pines,great actor.
Great show guys I have a question in order to read life debt to I have to read the first aftermath book.
Isn't it routine for Disney to do multi-movie contracts with actors if they see potential with them? For all we know, this could just be a cameo in a Boba Fett movie, or a Marvel movie, or another live-action adaptation of a Disney animated movie. Sometimes Disney doesn't even use the other movies in actors' contracts. Don't blow things out of proportion just yet.
C'mon Pablo! Get on Jedi Council!
No you skip the time lapses between the OT films, and just pick up after RotJ. No tricky retcon needed.
Minor point but if I remember correctly Chris Evans did the cameo in Thor as a favor and wasn't part of his multi-picture deal. My hope for the Han Solo movie is that the it ends with Han getting a face change to hide from Jabba and they CG his new look as young Harrison Ford... and maybe Greedo finding out.
I'm ok if we don't see Han in Rogue One but what would be cool is if we see a young Lando flying the Millennium Falcon. We already know that he used to own the ship.
What you talking about Mark Ellis?! Jet black & emerald green have always complimented each other, that Shadow Trooper looks like a boss. The Rebels have more of a forest green colour.
The Saga movies need to just mention The Knights of Ren, don't dive too deep them to set up an awesome Knights of Ren Story film. Epic.
Agreed Mark, John Williams is the most important person right now to Star Wars
I love how the Canon is showing us the sympathetic side to the Empire!
John Williams was definitely my answer.
Damn, am I the only one who really enjoyed Heir to the Jedi? Young Luke is annoying, but it was interesting seeing his development as a person, a student of the force and as a pilot. His relationship with Nakari was enjoyable, as well. It was a little slow in the middle, I'll give you that...
I do not like the idea of a Han Solo trilogy. First, where will this one take place in the timeline? By the time we get to the second and third, how close will be to when he meets Obi Wan and Luke? And by that time, how old will Alden look? I think Obi Wan would be a better choice because there is so much time that passed that he could easily have had adventures on Tatooine or another planet. Since he lives so far out something could happen there and Luke would never know. I agree with Kristian and I would like to see them expand the universe. If they happen to use Alden in some other movie that doesn't necessarily focus all on him I think that would be a little better.
I also wouldn't care for a trilogy based on Han or Obiwan. That said if I had to choose I would say Kenobi has, I think, a greater, richer history to cover. I don't know how you could fill three films with some smuggling, space-racing, and various scoundreling, but it would be fun for one movie or perhaps another TV series.
I agree with Christian, give Hayden some love! And I would have much rather had a Obi Wan Movie, but I guess they are waiting for McGregor to get gray hair or something. I wish they would do a Obi Wan prequel on Mandalore, as long as he actually still has some hair.
First Order vs Sith I like it Riley good one.
I want to see Shaows of the Empire made Canon with a one-off film between Empire and Jedi. Give me Dash Rendar, Xizor, and the Outrider. Great story and characters that won't take away from the existing Star Wars Universe.
I think for me, I would really like to see the Sequel trilogy end on a happy but uncertain note. Like say, the First Order is defeated and the Jedi are back for good this time. But Snoke and his new Sith/dark Jedi are still in the picture (whether that's Kylo and the Knights of Ren, idk) and on the rise, now they're just transitioning to phase two. Or maybe Plan B.
I would also much prefer Rey developing into a more neutral Grey Jedi kind of figure. I really hope we see her struggle with the Dark Side in Ep 8 and I feel like we will, but instead of going full-on Sith, I would like to see her reject both Jedi and Sith ideals and end Ep 9 on an uncertain path, with her relationships with her friends somewhat in shambles, where nobody knows where she's gonna end up. And then some other new prominent Jedi Knight (Finn??) could take leadership over the new Jedi Order and start laying the foundations.
Perhaps not that specific, but you get what I mean. I'd love to see more of a third Grey Jedi-like faction and I would love to see Rey develop into a more neutral and uncertain kind of character role than straight up Sith or Jedi. That leaves a lot of potential and a lot of ground to cover for the next trilogy, or hell, the next /two/ trilogies, if they play their cards right.
You said a long time ago that John (Fin) would be on the show............. Any news on that?
Kristian is so right about the age thing. every time they say "young Han Solo" I'm like... he was relatively young in A New Hope? How young are they gonna go?
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They are all the most important players. Each of these responsibilities are important.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Aaron Aldenreich can do with the Han Solo character. ... ;)
They need to do KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC! !!!!!!
enough with what we've seen from a different angle, give us the best stories the star wars universe have, KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC!
Why not let it stay as a video game series with a good, concise story? I guarantee it wouldn't translate well into a film, regardless of how they made it.
+Hendrick.Lamar I wouldn't make it just one big movie, there were lots of other stories besides revan's regaining memory and blasting the star forge. you could make 3 very solid, force wielding, jedi/sith movies easy out of it. but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll watch whatever comes out!
I want more Qui Gon Jinn. Not like it's Taken or anything.
I think the comics/books are loose canon at best. They'll never have a major plot point impact onto one of the movies due to potential alienation of the general viewer. Love the books but think their weight in canon is overvalued. It's like they are there if you want to know more but in the end none of it will be that impactful.
In the first AfterMath Darth Sidious Advisor said Sidious Would Spend many day's just staring into the vastness of space when ask what was wrong he said i feel a strong pull in the force this pull was coming from out side are galaxy and it was strong and old. Sidious Built the Second Death Star to go investigate he also put up sensors on the outer rim to monitor this force. this force was Snoke
Liam Neeson and Ewan Mcgregor both have Sid they would love to reprise their roles. What if for an Obi Wan film we get to see these two before the events of Phantom Menance. The bond between the two was strong but it could become even stronger if we were to see them in action
Modern day, most important to Star Wars, yeah, Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy are high up there, with JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson being close behind. I would also look to people from the past like Ralph McQuarie or Lawrence Kasdan, or maybe John Williams. I would take nominations from the section in How Star Wars Conquered the Universe where he describes the first reel, and how many influences outside of George there are in that opening 10 minutes of A New Hope
I think he spoke to Yoda after ROTJ to learn how to become a Force Jedi Ghost; similar to Obi-Wan Kenobi
With Luke's Light Saber Crystal, wasn't it actually an artificial crystal he took from Obi-wans hut. I think this was in the novel as well as a deleted scene from the movie.
However, didn't they just change canon so that each crystal now is colorless until a Jedi sets that color into the crystal, and it is always that color afterwards. Not 100% on that.
As Always enjoyed the show.
What I don't like, is that they have the same type of armies in this new trilogy. I was expecting a whole new type of armies on both the good and the bad sides. In Episodes I to III we got clones and droids, Episodes IV to VI we got stormtroopers and rebels and we basically got those again in the new trilogy, just slightly updated. I wanted to see whole new types of armies, so I really hope they don't keep the stormtroopers or rebel-type looking people in Episodes 10 to 12.
I think we are getting the trailer at the season premiere of Monday night Football.
Hayden should've been in Rogue One as the Physical Form of Darth Vader
Obi Wan by far the most intriguing character and Ewan did a tremendous job don't care what prequel haters say.
Disney shouldn't waste their time on a whole new trilogy where the primary focus is Han Solo.
What I think they should do is make another Rogue One esk film that takes place between episodes 4 and 5, and have the new Han involved that way. How'd be become a general, what was his command style like, did he ever personally run a fleet or base? That kind of stuff I could see, where he isn't the focus but he is involved in another film.
But no, I don't want to see Han Solo the movies, episodes 1, 2 and 3.