+Austin Green it'll be really awesome if all the Star Wars Spin offs started with Luke saying "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" hence completing the effect of making people think this is "A Star Wars Story" like how Disney is branding it. Plus with the years going by and Hamill getting older I would like to think even if Luke dies in a movie that people will remember Hamill through the intro. It could be like Stan Lee's Cameos in a sense.
+KP LLC i dunno theres so much that can be done, from various adventures in protecting luke, to forming or at least help a barely formed struggling rebellion. Theres a lot of potential.
CONSTIPATED OVERLORD It would be cool to see McGregor as Obi wan again. Not that it matters but ANH made it sound like he hadn't done anything since the Clone Wars.
I think they have a misconception about Kylo Ren. He was not tempted by the Dark Side on the bridge. He talks earlier about being tempted by the Light. He had every intention of killing Han from the moment he felt him. That's why he said he knows what he needs to do, but not sure he's strong enough. He was talking specifically about killing his father at the point. Han misconstrued Ben's intent at those words. The scene itself is amazing. That's another place I think they aren't understanding. I think Han knew he was most likely going to die. However, he had promised Leia he would try to bring Ben home. Not only that, but that's his son. Even if it's going to turn out bad for you, you don't give up on your child. Han not only knew that and felt that, but showed that.
I don't agree with John complaining that Ahsoka *had* to die because the episode was all about the three characters overcoming the obstacles they had to face in the temple with Yoda and Ahsoka's confrontation was perfectly realized in that ending.
+Jorge Ortiz Campea's always hated Ahsoka, no matter what he says about liking her in Rebels. By his own admission, he only liked her because he thought she was going to die. WTF? I hardly ever agree with Campea anymore.
+Jorge Ortiz I know right. I never thought she'd die as the end of season. She'll die but its season 2, they'll save that for like closer to the end of the run.
No because he already played a part in season one it was a small part but it was a part that was pretty powerful and I don't see him playing apart because he's going to be too busy participating in the operations of getting the death Star ready for completion.
I would've never thought that that was what he meant when he said something about a big announcement because he did not even say anything about it being a villain.
there is NOT 30 years between Revenge of the sith and A New Hope. There is only 19 years. I don't understand that there is hardcore fans who thinks Luke and Leia was 30 years old in A New Hope
The whole Rex being in RotJ reminds me of Dave Filoni pulling that mod from a New Hope with the all white hair and mustache and making him out to be the recurring admiral Yulareen in The Clone Wars. Awesome.
Agree with Campea. I saw TFA 5 fucking times in theatre, and I will buy the DVD / Blu Ray but it is really disheartening to know that the special features are lacking.
Re: the commentary track on "The Force Awakens," or lack of, it's not new territory for JJ. For the blu-Ray release of "Star Trek Into Darkness," the only way to get the commentary track for that film was to purchase it from iTunes as an “extras” download. Didn't appear on a disc until a 3-disc compendium a little later. Now, that was Paramount, not Disney/Lucasfilm, but still. It's just about getting us to spend more money.
can i suggest to Dennis and Crew maybe having a spoiler warning sign or symbol so while muted can be skipped ahead until the sign is not on screen...dont want to wait to see flailing arms while on mute to come back. (Note: not that Im complaining about spoiler talk, just helps for skipping reasons for people)
I'm glad Ahsoka didn't die. Her story is not just for to cement Vader as evil. She has her own story. In fact tbh it would have been more predictable if she died.
Vader having eyebrows is a call back to the theatrical version of Jedi where Sebastian Shaw had eyebrows. The Kessel Run in canon is a race that typically takes 20 parsecs, but Han made it in 12 by moving extremely close to a black hole that is an obstacle in the race. It's a testament to his skill, not the Falcon's speed. Great Council, just wanted to clarify.
100% agree with John. I liked everything in the finale except Ahsoka not dying. Just raised too many red flags for me. One of which is that even Maul said he couldn't face Vader alone, meaning he should have been able to wreck tano. I did like the symbolisim of the Convorees though.
My face lit up like a Christmas tree when I heard Ahsoka Tano novel. Fuck yes. We need that story. We know she met Anakin again after she left the order and we also know she met Darth Maul so I want to know what happens.
But I do have to say John laid out the most perfect plot for the solo movie. Movie begins with Hon saving Chewbacca. He then when's the millennium falcon from Lando and the same time bountyhunters are chasing him because the empire hired them to bring chewy back Dead or alive. And then he uses the castle run as a distraction and sucks the bountyhunters in the black hole to get away! I would totally go see that. I don't know about anybody else but I think that would be one incredible action-packed movie.
After Ezra refuses to kill the inquisitor, Maul warns Ezra that the next time he hesitates like that in battle he or someone he loves will die as a result... this foreshadows things to come in season three... Ezra will become obsessed with the Sith holocron and drift toward Maul away from the Rebels. Asoka will track Maul and Ezra down, and just like the Anakin-Palpatine-Windu scene, Ezra will choose Maul, hesitating in a critical moment that could have saved Asoka (from being killed by Maul). Ezra will be filled with hatred and conflict toward Maul and his own role in allowing Asoka to die. But he needs Maul to complete his training, as he "understands" more and more of the Sith perspective, and wants to obtain that "unlimited" power. Ezra will officially declare Maul his new master, and be given a new name. Though not a Sith, Ezra will identify with Sith "thinking" and stand ready to strike down his new master should Maul ever demonstrate weakness... when he finally does turn on his master, the battle nearly claims both of their lives, though one does emerge. The being who was Ezra wins the battle, but is hardly recognizable physically or in spirit... He goes on to successfully reactivate the Sith Temple/Battlestation, and claim unlimited power as Supreme Leader of the First Order. What do you think? Doesn't Starkiller base bare a striking resemblance to some of the scenes of the Sith Temple? I'm thinking he keeps the original Temple/Battlestation safe somewhere, and orders his legions to use it as a template for harnessing the dark energy into new weapons like Starkiller base.
I don't understand why people think Obi-wan just sat in a hut from the moment he dropped off Luke at Ben and Beru's place until he comes out of the hut in Ep. IV.
my only rebuttal to John is that seeing Ahsoka walking further into the Temple doesn't necessarily mean that she is physically walking, it could be a poetic symbol of her soul marching into the temple forever, meaning Vader did kill her. So it's not 100% she did survive on Malachor
TFA was released 4 months ago. If you were expecting LOTR Special Extended Edition special features, you're bananas. We will get all the commentary, all the extra bonus making-ofs, but later on. I don't see it as a big deal. If I were running Lucasfilm, I'd be doing it this way as well.
Freddie Prinze Jr. on the First Order Transmission podcast said that there will be a lot of seasons, and he goes more indepth with that. Of course Freddie Prinze Jr. may not be told when the show is going to end or can't say when the show is going to end. I would assume that they would tell him if he was going to lose his job. One last thing, I would listen to the podcast (First Order Transmission #197) because he says season three is more based around Sabine and the mandalorians.
Regarding the Blu-rays features, I think Peter Sciretta is way under-selling them. I've seen them and I'm a huge Star Wars fan who absolutely loved the prequel dvds, and I thoroughly enjoyed the special features on the Force Awakens dvd. I did feel like a fly on the wall. I didn't think it was disappointing at all. I understand the disappointment with the no commentaries, but there is a lot of behind the scenes info. The "Secrets of the Force Awakens" documentary is fantastic. And there's a lot more about stuff. I thought it was great. Also I agree with Kristian, this dvd is coming out pretty soon after the movie. The movie still has a few showings in theaters in some places around me. Plus they're obviously going coming out with whole saga blu-ray set including the force awakens, pretty soon.
I definitely hope it's Thrawn. He's a very interesting character and he would bring a lot to the table. I also want to hear his voice actor. If it is him, I will explode and definitely make me go out and buy a Thrawn cosplay outfit.
I really hope Ewan McGregor gets to step into Obi-Wan's boots one more time. John's right. It's not necessary to make an Obi-Wan movie. But no movie is "necessary". It would just be cool!
C'mon. I thought you guys were all Star Wars nerds. You should all know that it's not a 30 year gap between Episodes 3 and 4. Luke was NOT 30 years old in A New Hope.
+erosion271 I'm with Morgan, SW nerds of this level should know there's only 18 yrs between 3 and 4. I'll give them a break though, in that they may be thinking there are 30 yrs worth of stories, if you go back to the pre-Anakin, apprentice period for Obi.
Every episode starts with a space scene therefore I don't think it will open directly on Skelige. I think flashback sequence to open like you said, and then will transition to Skelige. Hoping flashback will fill in the gaps, either regarding Snoke, or the fall of Luke's academy.
There's a very key line from the original Star Wars that makes me think there's a lot of potential for an Obi-Wan movie. It's when they're going into the cantina and he tells Luke, "Watch your step. This place can be a little rough." And he smirks. Obi-Wan definitely wasn't just sitting in a hut for 20 years watching a kid grow up.
I agree, there is so much that Obi Wan could have Experienced in those Many Years Watching Over Luke, from Bounty Hunters who may have been seeking Out Force Users all the way down to Keeping himself in stealth from the Jedi Killing Empire. I Welcome the Obi Wan Movie with Open Arms & a Massive Amount of Curiosity.
That wasn't an assassin after luke it was darth maul who sensed a strong presence in the force. We find out he was looking for obi wan for years and that's where they had their final battle. Would make a scene in a movie.
+Taheah Shahdaiah yes, it was a story in Star Wars Tales. I liked how he was tracking him down and slaughtered all those beings on that moon where Padme gave birth to the twins
I was thinking about The Force Awakens specifically Max Von Sydows character and how I wanted to see more of him then I got an incredible theory. What if Mads Mikkelsen is playing his character in rogue one. Their age difference makes sense for the timeline. Mads is 50 and Max is 86 so that is 36 years.
6:50 the imagery of an assassin coming out of the sand to kill Luke really reminds me of the Shaw Brothers wuxia films where the chivalrous warriors would have to defend themselves from hidden bad guys popping out of hidden trap doors in the desert haha
Episode 8 titles, pan down to Luke's Jedi Academy and we see the Knights of Ren standing in formation with Kylo Ren at the front. They move in a monk like fashion towards the Academy and through Disney cgi magic we have a younger but middle aged Luke confront them, they have some awesome dialogue and then Luke takes them all on single handedly but then Kylo discovers his unique freezing ability right there and then. Luke is frozen and Kylo has a monologue giving us clues into his motivations and then the Knights of Ren slaughter all the trainees... All but one! The doors of the temple close as Luke sees Kira, his youngest, about to be killed by one of the Knights of Ren (Like in Rey's vision) but the doors close before Luke sees Kylo save her and wipe her memory and connection to the force and with that connection lost, it felt like she died to Luke. We zoom into his agony ridden eyes and then zoom out to the scene from the end of episode 7! Boom! Anyone like that
kylo kills smoke when he realizes that he wants total destruction, but does not want to go back to the light nor be redeemed, just his own path leading up to 10-12
Regarding "making the Kessel run in 12 parsecs" and wondering why it sounds like a measurement of time when in fact it is a measurement of distance. Consider this -- Assumption: Hyperspace is a single speed. No matter what type of vehicle you have, if you are in Hyperspace, you are going the same speed / are able to cover the same distance in the same amount of time. Not more time, not less time, the same time. In that instance, covering 12 parsecs in a single jump would be the same amount of time for anyone. Here is where there is variation: Various "safe" routes. We saw visually the "map" to Luke in the latest movie. Not just a single straight line, right? The idea is the navigational computer has to plot routes through "mapped" or "safe" hyperspace routes. As an easy example, let's just say the "Kessel Run" is broken into 12 segments of 1 parsec each. The space vehicle must make 12 jumps to hyperspace, with a few moments to drop out of hyperspace and re-align for the new trajectory. Each parsec traveled takes the same amount of time. So why would this be a big deal to complete it in 12? Well, what would make things slower? If there were more segments where you drop out of hyperspace and / or more distance to cover over the whole route.. Let's say the "normal" Kessel run was 15 parsecs, again to keep things simple we will just assume 1 parsec per segment. Therefore 12 parsecs is a shorter route. What does this mean? Imagine our interstate highway system for a simple example. If you want to go from Seattle to Orlando you can plot a "safe" course using only US Interstate highways. But, what if you wanted to take a few "short cuts" on state highways that may bypass some areas or maybe even be faster? This is what Han did and why "12" is so impressive. Because the normal number of jumps and distance traveled in the known "safe" Hyperspace lanes is more than 12 and shaving it down to only 12 is impressive. So yes, he cuts distance and therefore correspondingly cuts time to travel as well.
Obiwan trying to save another Jedi on the run from the empire sounds like a great idea for a movie :D Quinlan Vos maybe? You could even tie in Ventress or even a child of the two, Vos trying to find their child while on the run from the empire.
On Rebels Recon, Filoni never said it was character that the fans will see in season 3. He said moment, so my guess is that they are bringing the Death Star into the show.
OMG REX LIVES! Heck yeah!! I'm so happy that they decided to retcon and make this popular fan theory actually happen. Rex is in my Top 5 favourite Star Wars characters ever and I'm over the moon that he's still around by the end of the Galactic Civial war still helping the Rebellion kick Imperial ass! But I'd just like to point something out however. A lot of people say that he would have been dead by the events of ROTJ. This would not be the case, unless he was killed beforehand but clearly not because he's now canonized by Filoni in appearing ROTJ. In Rebels, he would be approximately 63-64 'Clone Years old' & Seven years later in the Battle of Endor, that would make him either 70-71 years old 'Clone years old'. Clone Troopers were physically enhanced when they were produced. Making them more capable & able to handle more physically demanding things than a regular aged human would if they were to hit the same age. Rex's non clone age would be between 35-36 years old by the time of the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY. As we was born in 32 BBY (Same year as the events of TPM). Also, yes I do want there to be at least one Obi Wan Kenobi stanadlone film one day. Just to see how he goes about his business watching over luke on tatooine and how he goes about learning the teachings of retaining ones consciousness after physical death from his former master Qui-Gon Jinn. Seeing as how he was only one of only 4 Jedi ever to acheive this ability in Canon (Anakin, Obi Wan, Qui-Gon & Yoda) it would make sense. But I will agree with Campea, I do wanna see Disney dive into NEW stuff someday, which they will eventually. Especially the Old Republic :)
Having a hard time believing Ahsoka didn't die. She went back to the temple at the end, no ship to get out etc. She's also gonna have a novel explaining what she did after she left the council. It all points to her dying in that temple. There is no ship to take her out of there.
Best ep of council since the tfa.real insight great what ifs...less repeating and just a real old style show without all the silliness.kristian and John the two we always wanna see with there little joker mark of course...keep up the great Star Wars great two new jedis too sitting through rebels spoilers and not complaing has to get credit for that...
thank you Peter--- Kylo was told if he killed his father he would go to the dark side that did not happened he went to the light...... however Peter is right if you justify it you can do it .... the trick will be to justify it.
It's roughly 16 years from Episode III (RTS) to Episode IV (ANH). At end of RTS we Obi-Wan dropping off a new born Luke Skywalker to Uncle Owen for him to raise. In ANH we see a young adult Luke Skywalker beginning his hero's journey. Luke wasn't 30-40 in Return of the Jedi, he's like 20. Can you explain how you're getting 30 - 40 years from RTS to ANH?
From things I've read Han solo used the bent space around black holes to make the kessel run so measuring it in parsecs still makes sense because he would have made the run in a shorter distance than everyone else
I think Admiral Thrawn would be great for Rebels because it ups the stakes without making Vader the central villain yet. Because the Will Be Rebel Alliance can't handle Vader for a long period of time yet. Remember Siege Of Lothal and how well that went for our heroes?
Sam Witwer AND Freddie Prinze jr. on next weeks Jedi Council! I really hope this happens!!! Witwer is just a encyclopedia when it comes to the Star Wars universe. Star Wars = SW, Sam Witwer = SW, coincidence? I don't think so :)
Kylo is going to be redeemed, and he will survive to live with the demons of his past. The struggle between light and dark is right there in his eyes in every scene of the film. He was filled with regret even before doing what he felt he needed to do. That choice and that scene certainly shows us that he tried to do something grand to push himself over the edge to the dark side. It didn't show us for a second that it worked, or that his struggle ended. He looks absolutely devastated and torn down in every scene that follows, and that to me is not the death of Ben Solo, that's the return of Ben Solo we're seeing.. Although he will continue to try to be Kylo Ren. (By the grace of your training I will not be seduced..) His hesitation in his 'fight' with Rey gave even more light to the fact that there's more good than evil in him, still. I wouldn't be surprised if he returns completely and permanently unmasked in Episode VIII just to focus more on that struggle in his eyes (and his new scar, of course) and where that will lead him.
+Adam Thank you I think you are one of the few that get this --- This is the son of the greatest love story in star wars ---this is not going to be the tragedy they think it is going to be... he saw the light when he killed his father Snoke had convinced him by killing his father he would go completely to the dark and it did not work... he does feel guilt. Also most dont know or see it yet he is the one that saved Rey in the past. this is a child who was violated by Snoke from a very young age.
It's simple when you think about it, if Rey isnt a Skywalker or Solo then yes Ben Solo will be redeemed why, because Star Wars its his story. If they turn out not be be related the Kylo and Rey will have a love child to progress the story and then episodes X, XI, XII will be the story of their son Luke Solo's force training.
Kylo did not "feel good" about killing his father, and I'm baffled that John left the theatre with that impression. The expression on his face is clearly shock - the final sequence of the film shows him driven by rage and grief. He is angry and devastated because killing his father didn't bring him the peace or power he sought.
I think Rey is either Luke's daughter or niece just because Maz told her that the lightsaber was Luke's fathers then Luke's and now hers. That tells me it's like a family heirloom.
Just for the sake of precision, it was 19 years between Ep.III and Ep. IV, which is the exact age of the twins Luke and Leia. That said, I don't understand why a lot of people have such a lack of imagination, thinking that all that time Obi Wan Kenobi has been exclusively sitting around watching over Luke, basically doing nothing. That wouldn't even sound realistic. He could have been living plenty of adventures during that time and still keep an eye on Luke. Even more, since he devoted his entire life to do so, he might have done every possible effort to protect Luke from any possible threat. Moreover, somebody might have been hunting him down as well, which leads to plenty more options and possibilities. The potential for a stand alone spiff off, or even a trilogy is right there.
Wait a minute, an anouncement about a hardcore character in Rebels 3. Thrawn would be great but I'm thinking more about Ezra opening that Sith holocron. Think people, who from legend is the most popular character from ancient times AND has been hinted at before. It,s bloody Revan. Imagine Revan or rather his spirit/ force ghost- whatever appearing before Ezra ,teaching him about the secrets of the Sith. That would be flipping awesome. Thoughts people.
+Star Wars Community Based on other stuff we heard on this episode, there is an absolutely 100% chance they will make a Kenobi movie. Why? Not because they care about the story. Fuck that. They only care about the benjamins.
The Lord of the rings appendices and hobbit appendices have 3 discs for each movie each disk two hours long and they are amazing to watch and so interesting I would love to get one for Star Wars
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Luke: "have you ever heard the story of Darth Revan the imperative?"
Rey: "No..."
YESSSS!!!!
+Microbyte Luke then says: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."
+Austin Green it'll be really awesome if all the Star Wars Spin offs started with Luke saying "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" hence completing the effect of making people think this is "A Star Wars Story" like how Disney is branding it. Plus with the years going by and Hamill getting older I would like to think even if Luke dies in a movie that people will remember Hamill through the intro. It could be like Stan Lee's Cameos in a sense.
+ItsMichaelReid very fucking good idea
+Austin Green then a jump cut to black screen with the words "see Star Wars: Revan a Star Wars anthology film coming 2019. Now back to episode 8."
i would mutch more like to see an Obi-Wan Kenobi movie then a Han Solo movie.
Agreed
+frootloops420 L What will he do, hide on tatooine the whole time?
+KP LLC i dunno theres so much that can be done, from various adventures in protecting luke, to forming or at least help a barely formed struggling rebellion. Theres a lot of potential.
CONSTIPATED OVERLORD It would be cool to see McGregor as Obi wan again. Not that it matters but ANH made it sound like he hadn't done anything since the Clone Wars.
I think they have a misconception about Kylo Ren. He was not tempted by the Dark Side on the bridge. He talks earlier about being tempted by the Light. He had every intention of killing Han from the moment he felt him. That's why he said he knows what he needs to do, but not sure he's strong enough. He was talking specifically about killing his father at the point. Han misconstrued Ben's intent at those words.
The scene itself is amazing. That's another place I think they aren't understanding. I think Han knew he was most likely going to die. However, he had promised Leia he would try to bring Ben home. Not only that, but that's his son. Even if it's going to turn out bad for you, you don't give up on your child. Han not only knew that and felt that, but showed that.
Luke is 19 years old in A New Hope. It gives us 19 years to kick around with.
I don't agree with John complaining that Ahsoka *had* to die because the episode was all about the three characters overcoming the obstacles they had to face in the temple with Yoda and Ahsoka's confrontation was perfectly realized in that ending.
Agreed
+Jorge Ortiz for me it was perfect. I would like to see her handle the fact her old master is the dark lord.
+Alex McBride Top comment, spoiled for me... :( LOL oh well.
+Jorge Ortiz Campea's always hated Ahsoka, no matter what he says about liking her in Rebels. By his own admission, he only liked her because he thought she was going to die. WTF? I hardly ever agree with Campea anymore.
+Jorge Ortiz I know right. I never thought she'd die as the end of season. She'll die but its season 2, they'll save that for like closer to the end of the run.
Rex being the rebel scout is literally the coolest Star Wars fan service I've ever had the honor of knowing. Gotta watch Ep 6 again real soon
Crazy thing was, I watched RotJ the night before I started watching this... Want to rewatch it now #starwarsfanproblems
Anybody else think we had DC's Penguin as a guest tonight?
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+Tom Alexander right tom that actor guy is punk bitch . fr saying about peter on the pod cast
+Acror Damaage I was thinking Gru from Despicable Me.
+Acror Damaage Yeees... :D
Hail to Tim Burton for burning that into our brains! :D
Anyone else shouting "Tarkin" at the screen for the Rebels S3 villain?
***** Oh, I completely forgot about that, you're right
No because he already played a part in season one it was a small part but it was a part that was pretty powerful and I don't see him playing apart because he's going to be too busy participating in the operations of getting the death Star ready for completion.
+Graham Butler Thrawn would be great too
I would've never thought that that was what he meant when he said something about a big announcement because he did not even say anything about it being a villain.
+Graham Butler Clearly more to come in Season 3 with Ezra vs the sith holicron. I don't think the outcome is predetermined as many would think.
guys please stop saying 30years. Luke was 18 in a new hope, therefore obi wan had 18 years to hang around
John's comments about giving the fans, who supported this film in the theaters, a commentary is spot on. I love the passion. You tell 'em Campea!!!
Yes! I so look forward to this show every week! My Thursday night would not be complete without it at this point!
WOW FREDDY PRINCE JR AND WHITWORTH BOTH ON THE SHOW NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Eric Perez Witwer*
Witwer and Freddie?! Sweet!!
THANK YOU john campea what you said about the rebels stuff
there is NOT 30 years between Revenge of the sith and A New Hope. There is only 19 years. I don't understand that there is hardcore fans who thinks Luke and Leia was 30 years old in A New Hope
+Nerds United "Hardcore" is the key word. This baffles me as well.
I really hope next week they talk very in-depth about the Star Wars Rebels Finale cause I wanted them to go into it more
Can't wait to see The Force Awakens commentary! I hope you guys do one for every star wars film to come!
The whole Rex being in RotJ reminds me of Dave Filoni pulling that mod from a New Hope with the all white hair and mustache and making him out to be the recurring admiral Yulareen in The Clone Wars. Awesome.
Agree with Campea. I saw TFA 5 fucking times in theatre, and I will buy the DVD / Blu Ray but it is really disheartening to know that the special features are lacking.
Re: the commentary track on "The Force Awakens," or lack of, it's not new territory for JJ. For the blu-Ray release of "Star Trek Into Darkness," the only way to get the commentary track for that film was to purchase it from iTunes as an “extras” download. Didn't appear on a disc until a 3-disc compendium a little later. Now, that was Paramount, not Disney/Lucasfilm, but still. It's just about getting us to spend more money.
"Thats not how the force works!"
can i suggest to Dennis and Crew maybe having a spoiler warning sign or symbol so while muted can be skipped ahead until the sign is not on screen...dont want to wait to see flailing arms while on mute to come back. (Note: not that Im complaining about spoiler talk, just helps for skipping reasons for people)
KENOBI - Balance of the Force. A Kenobi Anthology film would be amazing, showing his time on Tatooine between EP 3 and 4.
Darth maul was amazing in the finale. Hopefully we see him tempt ezra more in season 3.
No Darth anymore.
Pilo ᴹᴱᴻᵀᴬᴸ ᴹᴱᴸᵀᵈᵒᵚᵑ Yeah you're right, that going to take a while to get use to.😅
A trilogy with Ewan Mcgregor as Kenobi will be awesome!
NOOOOOO!!!! There isn't enough time to watch this and see Schmoes when it starts. I guess I'm watching this tomorrow.
I'm watching anyhow. I'll cut when it's time. Reilly is in for Mark.
+Jordan Wayne Perfectly timed ending - Schmoes starts *now*
+Graham Butler I'm on the east coast. I had to shower and shit because it ends at midnight here.
UK, you lightweight :D
Graham Butler LOL
I'm glad Ahsoka didn't die. Her story is not just for to cement Vader as evil. She has her own story. In fact tbh it would have been more predictable if she died.
Vader having eyebrows is a call back to the theatrical version of Jedi where Sebastian Shaw had eyebrows. The Kessel Run in canon is a race that typically takes 20 parsecs, but Han made it in 12 by moving extremely close to a black hole that is an obstacle in the race. It's a testament to his skill, not the Falcon's speed. Great Council, just wanted to clarify.
"Everyone walked away, *no harm done*"
Tell that to Kanan, John.
jonah hoff And 8th Brother (BTW that's the official name of the new inquisitior)
100% agree with John. I liked everything in the finale except Ahsoka not dying. Just raised too many red flags for me. One of which is that even Maul said he couldn't face Vader alone, meaning he should have been able to wreck tano. I did like the symbolisim of the Convorees though.
Obi-Wan! Do it! We deserve it, McGregor deserves it. Make it happen!
btw. I cannot recognize Mark Reilly without the cap.
My face lit up like a Christmas tree when I heard Ahsoka Tano novel. Fuck yes. We need that story. We know she met Anakin again after she left the order and we also know she met Darth Maul so I want to know what happens.
Obi Wan is my favourite Star Wars character,period. Really hope this happens!
But I do have to say John laid out the most perfect plot for the solo movie. Movie begins with Hon saving Chewbacca. He then when's the millennium falcon from Lando and the same time bountyhunters are chasing him because the empire hired them to bring chewy back Dead or alive. And then he uses the castle run as a distraction and sucks the bountyhunters in the black hole to get away! I would totally go see that. I don't know about anybody else but I think that would be one incredible action-packed movie.
every episode is a great one, good cast! this week, i wouldn't mind seeing them again.
After Ezra refuses to kill the inquisitor, Maul warns Ezra that the next time he hesitates like that in battle he or someone he loves will die as a result... this foreshadows things to come in season three... Ezra will become obsessed with the Sith holocron and drift toward Maul away from the Rebels. Asoka will track Maul and Ezra down, and just like the Anakin-Palpatine-Windu scene, Ezra will choose Maul, hesitating in a critical moment that could have saved Asoka (from being killed by Maul). Ezra will be filled with hatred and conflict toward Maul and his own role in allowing Asoka to die. But he needs Maul to complete his training, as he "understands" more and more of the Sith perspective, and wants to obtain that "unlimited" power. Ezra will officially declare Maul his new master, and be given a new name. Though not a Sith, Ezra will identify with Sith "thinking" and stand ready to strike down his new master should Maul ever demonstrate weakness... when he finally does turn on his master, the battle nearly claims both of their lives, though one does emerge. The being who was Ezra wins the battle, but is hardly recognizable physically or in spirit... He goes on to successfully reactivate the Sith Temple/Battlestation, and claim unlimited power as Supreme Leader of the First Order. What do you think? Doesn't Starkiller base bare a striking resemblance to some of the scenes of the Sith Temple? I'm thinking he keeps the original Temple/Battlestation safe somewhere, and orders his legions to use it as a template for harnessing the dark energy into new weapons like Starkiller base.
I don't understand why people think Obi-wan just sat in a hut from the moment he dropped off Luke at Ben and Beru's place until he comes out of the hut in Ep. IV.
hey collider..think it would be a good idea to do a star wars trivia among these guys
+koy osaz They'd all lose.
+koy osaz Like make it a segment? Yeah I'd be down for that
my only rebuttal to John is that seeing Ahsoka walking further into the Temple doesn't necessarily mean that she is physically walking, it could be a poetic symbol of her soul marching into the temple forever, meaning Vader did kill her. So it's not 100% she did survive on Malachor
TFA was released 4 months ago. If you were expecting LOTR Special Extended Edition special features, you're bananas. We will get all the commentary, all the extra bonus making-ofs, but later on. I don't see it as a big deal. If I were running Lucasfilm, I'd be doing it this way as well.
Everyone else: This is great!
John: it's fine...
Oh John...
kristian face at 21:41 was like him trying to do a robert deniro impression.
+steven strange LOL
Freddie Prinze Jr. on the First Order Transmission podcast said that there will be a lot of seasons, and he goes more indepth with that. Of course Freddie Prinze Jr. may not be told when the show is going to end or can't say when the show is going to end. I would assume that they would tell him if he was going to lose his job.
One last thing, I would listen to the podcast (First Order Transmission #197) because he says season three is more based around Sabine and the mandalorians.
Almost 20 years later and Lord of the Rings is still teaching lessons and ideas to all parts of fantasy movie making :D
Peter Sciretta! hope to see David Chen, Devindra Hardwire and Jeff Cannata on a future episode
Regarding the Blu-rays features, I think Peter Sciretta is way under-selling them. I've seen them and I'm a huge Star Wars fan who absolutely loved the prequel dvds, and I thoroughly enjoyed the special features on the Force Awakens dvd. I did feel like a fly on the wall. I didn't think it was disappointing at all. I understand the disappointment with the no commentaries, but there is a lot of behind the scenes info. The "Secrets of the Force Awakens" documentary is fantastic. And there's a lot more about stuff. I thought it was great. Also I agree with Kristian, this dvd is coming out pretty soon after the movie. The movie still has a few showings in theaters in some places around me. Plus they're obviously going coming out with whole saga blu-ray set including the force awakens, pretty soon.
I definitely hope it's Thrawn. He's a very interesting character and he would bring a lot to the table. I also want to hear his voice actor. If it is him, I will explode and definitely make me go out and buy a Thrawn cosplay outfit.
I love when John gets going. He becomes an unstoppable force.
i am going back and listening to the old shows to recall how many times they missed the mark of what they thought was going to happen sigh
I'd love to see Ewan back as Obi Wan. He was(like many of the characters in the originals and TFA) so likable which was very rare in the prequels.
I really hope Ewan McGregor gets to step into Obi-Wan's boots one more time. John's right. It's not necessary to make an Obi-Wan movie. But no movie is "necessary". It would just be cool!
C'mon. I thought you guys were all Star Wars nerds. You should all know that it's not a 30 year gap between Episodes 3 and 4. Luke was NOT 30 years old in A New Hope.
+erosion271 I'm with Morgan, SW nerds of this level should know there's only 18 yrs between 3 and 4. I'll give them a break though, in that they may be thinking there are 30 yrs worth of stories, if you go back to the pre-Anakin, apprentice period for Obi.
Wow. Rex being in Jedi is awesome. I'm going to look for him next time I watch that movie.
Every episode starts with a space scene therefore I don't think it will open directly on Skelige. I think flashback sequence to open like you said, and then will transition to Skelige. Hoping flashback will fill in the gaps, either regarding Snoke, or the fall of Luke's academy.
I pray they do a Obi-Wan Trilogy. We need more starwars...please.
reverted back to this episode because I can't maintain my excitement for the Rogue One trailer dropping tomorrow!
There's a very key line from the original Star Wars that makes me think there's a lot of potential for an Obi-Wan movie. It's when they're going into the cantina and he tells Luke, "Watch your step. This place can be a little rough." And he smirks. Obi-Wan definitely wasn't just sitting in a hut for 20 years watching a kid grow up.
Campea going to pop a blood vessel ahahahahaha
I agree, there is so much that Obi Wan could have Experienced in those Many Years Watching Over Luke, from Bounty Hunters who may have been seeking Out Force Users all the way down to Keeping himself in stealth from the Jedi Killing Empire. I Welcome the Obi Wan Movie with Open Arms & a Massive Amount of Curiosity.
That wasn't an assassin after luke it was darth maul who sensed a strong presence in the force. We find out he was looking for obi wan for years and that's where they had their final battle. Would make a scene in a movie.
+Taheah Shahdaiah yes, it was a story in Star Wars Tales. I liked how he was tracking him down and slaughtered all those beings on that moon where Padme gave birth to the twins
Yeah I remember reading it in middle school at the library.
I was thinking about The Force Awakens specifically Max Von Sydows character and how I wanted to see more of him then I got an incredible theory. What if Mads Mikkelsen is playing his character in rogue one. Their age difference makes sense for the timeline. Mads is 50 and Max is 86 so that is 36 years.
6:50 the imagery of an assassin coming out of the sand to kill Luke really reminds me of the Shaw Brothers wuxia films where the chivalrous warriors would have to defend themselves from hidden bad guys popping out of hidden trap doors in the desert haha
Episode 8 titles, pan down to Luke's Jedi Academy and we see the Knights of Ren standing in formation with Kylo Ren at the front. They move in a monk like fashion towards the Academy and through Disney cgi magic we have a younger but middle aged Luke confront them, they have some awesome dialogue and then Luke takes them all on single handedly but then Kylo discovers his unique freezing ability right there and then. Luke is frozen and Kylo has a monologue giving us clues into his motivations and then the Knights of Ren slaughter all the trainees... All but one! The doors of the temple close as Luke sees Kira, his youngest, about to be killed by one of the Knights of Ren (Like in Rey's vision) but the doors close before Luke sees Kylo save her and wipe her memory and connection to the force and with that connection lost, it felt like she died to Luke. We zoom into his agony ridden eyes and then zoom out to the scene from the end of episode 7! Boom! Anyone like that
kylo kills smoke when he realizes that he wants total destruction, but does not want to go back to the light nor be redeemed, just his own path leading up to 10-12
Regarding "making the Kessel run in 12 parsecs" and wondering why it sounds like a measurement of time when in fact it is a measurement of distance.
Consider this -- Assumption: Hyperspace is a single speed. No matter what type of vehicle you have, if you are in Hyperspace, you are going the same speed / are able to cover the same distance in the same amount of time. Not more time, not less time, the same time.
In that instance, covering 12 parsecs in a single jump would be the same amount of time for anyone. Here is where there is variation: Various "safe" routes. We saw visually the "map" to Luke in the latest movie. Not just a single straight line, right? The idea is the navigational computer has to plot routes through "mapped" or "safe" hyperspace routes. As an easy example, let's just say the "Kessel Run" is broken into 12 segments of 1 parsec each. The space vehicle must make 12 jumps to hyperspace, with a few moments to drop out of hyperspace and re-align for the new trajectory. Each parsec traveled takes the same amount of time. So why would this be a big deal to complete it in 12? Well, what would make things slower? If there were more segments where you drop out of hyperspace and / or more distance to cover over the whole route.. Let's say the "normal" Kessel run was 15 parsecs, again to keep things simple we will just assume 1 parsec per segment. Therefore 12 parsecs is a shorter route. What does this mean? Imagine our interstate highway system for a simple example. If you want to go from Seattle to Orlando you can plot a "safe" course using only US Interstate highways. But, what if you wanted to take a few "short cuts" on state highways that may bypass some areas or maybe even be faster? This is what Han did and why "12" is so impressive. Because the normal number of jumps and distance traveled in the known "safe" Hyperspace lanes is more than 12 and shaving it down to only 12 is impressive. So yes, he cuts distance and therefore correspondingly cuts time to travel as well.
FREDDIE PRINZE JR AND SAM WITWER?!?! FUCKING A!
Freddie was FANTASTIC last time he was on.
yes. Favourite actor and character in all of star wars.
Obiwan trying to save another Jedi on the run from the empire sounds like a great idea for a movie :D Quinlan Vos maybe? You could even tie in Ventress or even a child of the two, Vos trying to find their child while on the run from the empire.
If you get Sam and Freddie next week I'm gonna need at least a 2 hour Council.
Great Council guys, I've always wanted to hear some chat about the blu ray/dvd extras. Agreed on double/triple/quad dipping.... BS.
On Rebels Recon, Filoni never said it was character that the fans will see in season 3. He said moment, so my guess is that they are bringing the Death Star into the show.
OMG REX LIVES! Heck yeah!! I'm so happy that they decided to retcon and make this popular fan theory actually happen. Rex is in my Top 5 favourite Star Wars characters ever and I'm over the moon that he's still around by the end of the Galactic Civial war still helping the Rebellion kick Imperial ass! But I'd just like to point something out however. A lot of people say that he would have been dead by the events of ROTJ. This would not be the case, unless he was killed beforehand but clearly not because he's now canonized by Filoni in appearing ROTJ. In Rebels, he would be approximately 63-64 'Clone Years old' & Seven years later in the Battle of Endor, that would make him either 70-71 years old 'Clone years old'. Clone Troopers were physically enhanced when they were produced. Making them more capable & able to handle more physically demanding things than a regular aged human would if they were to hit the same age. Rex's non clone age would be between 35-36 years old by the time of the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY. As we was born in 32 BBY (Same year as the events of TPM).
Also, yes I do want there to be at least one Obi Wan Kenobi stanadlone film one day. Just to see how he goes about his business watching over luke on tatooine and how he goes about learning the teachings of retaining ones consciousness after physical death from his former master Qui-Gon Jinn. Seeing as how he was only one of only 4 Jedi ever to acheive this ability in Canon (Anakin, Obi Wan, Qui-Gon & Yoda) it would make sense. But I will agree with Campea, I do wanna see Disney dive into NEW stuff someday, which they will eventually. Especially the Old Republic :)
I look forward to Jedi council all wk long!
REX LIVES! (Why am I smiling?)
Poor Riley , getting the season finale spoiled then skipped lol. Darth Harloff is truly an evil tyrant !!! 😂😂
"Ben Kenobi: A Star Wars Story"
Sounds good to me.
There are a lot of ideas for an obi-wan movie.. Like a final fight between him and Maul.
Having a hard time believing Ahsoka didn't die. She went back to the temple at the end, no ship to get out etc. She's also gonna have a novel explaining what she did after she left the council. It all points to her dying in that temple. There is no ship to take her out of there.
Best ep of council since the tfa.real insight great what ifs...less repeating and just a real old style show without all the silliness.kristian and John the two we always wanna see with there little joker mark of course...keep up the great Star Wars great two new jedis too sitting through rebels spoilers and not complaing has to get credit for that...
thank you Peter--- Kylo was told if he killed his father he would go to the dark side that did not happened he went to the light...... however Peter is right if you justify it you can do it .... the trick will be to justify it.
+Betty Owen peter is the only one that is right
It's roughly 16 years from Episode III (RTS) to Episode IV (ANH). At end of RTS we Obi-Wan dropping off a new born Luke Skywalker to Uncle Owen for him to raise. In ANH we see a young adult Luke Skywalker beginning his hero's journey. Luke wasn't 30-40 in Return of the Jedi, he's like 20. Can you explain how you're getting 30 - 40 years from RTS to ANH?
From things I've read Han solo used the bent space around black holes to make the kessel run so measuring it in parsecs still makes sense because he would have made the run in a shorter distance than everyone else
Obi-Wan movie would be awesome!!
I think Admiral Thrawn would be great for Rebels because it ups the stakes without making Vader the central villain yet. Because the Will Be Rebel Alliance can't handle Vader for a long period of time yet. Remember Siege Of Lothal and how well that went for our heroes?
+Redpoppy Thrawn in season 3? Hell yeah!
Sam Witwer AND Freddie Prinze jr. on next weeks Jedi Council! I really hope this happens!!! Witwer is just a encyclopedia when it comes to the Star Wars universe. Star Wars = SW, Sam Witwer = SW, coincidence? I don't think so :)
Kylo is going to be redeemed, and he will survive to live with the demons of his past. The struggle between light and dark is right there in his eyes in every scene of the film. He was filled with regret even before doing what he felt he needed to do. That choice and that scene certainly shows us that he tried to do something grand to push himself over the edge to the dark side. It didn't show us for a second that it worked, or that his struggle ended. He looks absolutely devastated and torn down in every scene that follows, and that to me is not the death of Ben Solo, that's the return of Ben Solo we're seeing.. Although he will continue to try to be Kylo Ren. (By the grace of your training I will not be seduced..) His hesitation in his 'fight' with Rey gave even more light to the fact that there's more good than evil in him, still.
I wouldn't be surprised if he returns completely and permanently unmasked in Episode VIII just to focus more on that struggle in his eyes (and his new scar, of course) and where that will lead him.
+Adam Thank you I think you are one of the few that get this --- This is the son of the greatest love story in star wars ---this is not going to be the tragedy they think it is going to be... he saw the light when he killed his father Snoke had convinced him by killing his father he would go completely to the dark and it did not work... he does feel guilt. Also most dont know or see it yet he is the one that saved Rey in the past. this is a child who was violated by Snoke from a very young age.
Been waiting for Jedi Council after the Rebels finale happened
It's simple when you think about it, if Rey isnt a Skywalker or Solo then yes Ben Solo will be redeemed why, because Star Wars its his story. If they turn out not be be related the Kylo and Rey will have a love child to progress the story and then episodes X, XI, XII will be the story of their son Luke Solo's force training.
Kylo did not "feel good" about killing his father, and I'm baffled that John left the theatre with that impression. The expression on his face is clearly shock - the final sequence of the film shows him driven by rage and grief. He is angry and devastated because killing his father didn't bring him the peace or power he sought.
+Rachael1918 yes well said most miss this point
I think Rey is either Luke's daughter or niece just because Maz told her that the lightsaber was Luke's fathers then Luke's and now hers. That tells me it's like a family heirloom.
Just for the sake of precision, it was 19 years between Ep.III and Ep. IV, which is the exact age of the twins Luke and Leia. That said, I don't understand why a lot of people have such a lack of imagination, thinking that all that time Obi Wan Kenobi has been exclusively sitting around watching over Luke, basically doing nothing. That wouldn't even sound realistic. He could have been living plenty of adventures during that time and still keep an eye on Luke. Even more, since he devoted his entire life to do so, he might have done every possible effort to protect Luke from any possible threat. Moreover, somebody might have been hunting him down as well, which leads to plenty more options and possibilities. The potential for a stand alone spiff off, or even a trilogy is right there.
Wait a minute, an anouncement about a hardcore character in Rebels 3. Thrawn would be great but I'm thinking more about Ezra opening that Sith holocron. Think people, who from legend is the most popular character from ancient times AND has been hinted at before. It,s bloody Revan. Imagine Revan or rather his spirit/ force ghost- whatever appearing before Ezra ,teaching him about the secrets of the Sith. That would be flipping awesome. Thoughts people.
Please bring Ewan back Disney you would be crazy not to !
+Star Wars Community Based on other stuff we heard on this episode, there is an absolutely 100% chance they will make a Kenobi movie. Why? Not because they care about the story. Fuck that. They only care about the benjamins.
If you watch first 6 in "machete" order, you get a sort of sequence where prequels 2 and 3 become a 'flashback' set between Empire and Jedi.
I agree with you John, Sounds like a new Blu-Ray will be released before Rogue One with more content.
Dude, love the tie-fighter sunset T-shirt!
The Lord of the rings appendices and hobbit appendices have 3 discs for each movie each disk two hours long and they are amazing to watch and so interesting I would love to get one for Star Wars
Best part of the week!
Best star wars podcast on youtube!!!
I like how Kristin can still ask "mark" to read the notes, even though it's a different mark