I think Kylo should have absolutely taken the mask off, just as it happened in the film. It humanises him which was needed to have a different take on the generic bad guy. It showed that he was just a young, troubled guy.
I absolutely agree. People say "He wasn't enough like Vader"-guys. He WASN'T Vader. He's his own character, with different layers. I thought he was great and can't wait to see where he goes next.
I love how character names are considered spoilers now. We're gonna get to a point in the near future where the fucking color scheme is gonna be considered a spoiler.
As George watched Mark Reilly do Star Wars Trilogy in 30 min he finally didn't have the urge to say "Faster and More Intense". Happy Birthday George.... and thank you.
I love that Donnie Yen (can't remember the name of his character at the moment) is described as a "spiritual warrior" because it goes with my theory that he's force sensitive but never became a Jedi. They said there'd be no Jedi in the film, but there could always be other kinds of force users, especially with Vader all but confirmed at this point. And Donnie Yen's character appears to be blind. A blind guy wouldn't be able to just K.O. a stormtrooper with his walking stick like he did in the trailer unless he's got something else going on.
+TJ Hastie We've seen other groups of people in both canon and Legends who use the Force, but aren't Jedi. Such as the Father, son, and daughter in Clone Wars, the Witches of Dathomir who first appeared in in the EU then later canonized in Clone Wars, and the Fallanassi from the Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy who worship the White Current. The white current is how they perceive the Force, and they use it differently from Jedi and Sith just like the others I've mentioned.
+DustingBread Why? A couple of the products are OK, or is it because the ads are so annoying and you refuse to watch. Do you press the Skip Ad button? I hate those ads that are too short to have a 'skip'.
Consider his back story and what he's been through and he is one of the most powerful characters that will exist in the Star Wars universe. Hold your judgement until Episode IX or until he is killed off first.
You guys literally brought me to tears with your birthday speeches to George. Thank you for that and well done, guys! Excellent episode, great speeches, and of course....THANK YOU George Lucas and the happiest of birthdays! The Force will be with you, always.
+GED I recently discovered the Game of Thrones episode recap show that the SourceFedNERD RUclips channel does, and Maude Garrett is one of the people that does that recap show. I absolutely love her on the Game of Thrones recap show, so as soon as I saw that Maude Garrett was one of the people on the panel for this week's episode of Collider Jedi Council, I automatically gave this video a thumbs up. :)
This is the first time I see Maude on the council and I love her! She obviously loves Star Wars, understands the mythology, has a great knowledge on canon, good chemistry with the others and doesn't shout so loud like another certain blonde on TV talks, not mention her good looks and accent.
I love this show so much! It's honestly the one thing that I look forward to seeing every Thursday! I also enjoy trying to get other people to watch the show as well :)
As am I, we must all remember this is not too far after he crossed over to the dark side. Therefore the loss of Padme, and what Vader assumes to be the twins too, still weighs heavy on him. I can't wait to see him raw as hell :D
Phil Corrigan it's still not that far off, there is a reason why this is supposed to be a brutal Vader. I mean at the end of Episode III they already started building the Death Star so this is not to long after that. It wouldn't have been that long, maybe a year or two if that.
+Dom Anthony Jesus Showing the Death Star under construction at the end of Episode III was just one of thousands of things wrong with the prequels. It made no sense. But Rogue One definitely takes place just before IV. It's about the mission to get the plans that Leia has on the Tantive IV. So Vader will be just like he is in that movie.
Phil Corrigan yes you're right, I remember in IV they said lots of spies died for this Intel so don't let their deaths be in vain. It was when Luke was going to be a pilot and Han was taking of, on Yavin 4 I believe? Right before the attack on the death star. That's why this movie has me so hyped, it will give even more back story to the star wars canon, I'm all for that.
If Yoda is in 8, I can't think he will still be 'guiding' Luke. Luke should not need guidance anymore. I think Yoda may be around more as a friend. If he was around for guidance, where was he when Luke was training Ben Solo?
the one who should appear in 8 of the ghosts is anakin i just think it makes more sense to the story and can give wisdom from experience in the dark side
+Tol Haller Maybe, yeah. If Yoda is there I would think it's more like the relationship between Mace Windu and Yoda, pretty much conferring in each other and being close friends.
The thing about Darth Bane being canonised in TCW is that he was actually originally created by George Lucas (at least according to Wookieepedia) when he was writing the backstory to the prequels, whereas Revan was, as far as I know, more or less entirely the creation of Bioware for KotOR. So it's easier to integrate Bane into the new canon because he was always a part of George's vision, he was always the Sith that created the Rule of Two. Granted it's fairly easy to fit Revan in as well because of course he's from 4,000 years before the films, but I think the story group might see it as more of a leap.
LOVE THE SPOILER TAG!!! Just leave it up the whole time spoilers are being discussed. Please use this on all Collider videos such as Heroes, Movie Talk, etc. GREAT IDEA!!!
Man oh man it's so great to have Maude back. We missed you something fierce! (However...what is wrong with jumping, bouncing, ass-kicking Yoda? It was AH-MAZING!)
Oh man. That scene that they're talking about, that comes from Episode 8, sounds amazing. Seriously, tidbits like that are why I'm so pumped about Episode 8.
I completely disagree with Maude the thing that makes Kylo different from Vader is that from the first film we see him as a human being and in a lot of ways this new series will be his story as well. Lucas added layers to Vader with Empire and Jedi but I really love that from the start we see Kylo as a person who is lost it gives him his own flavor and shows how much he wants to be Vader instead of making him another Vader that is an important difference in my opinion. This character is nowhere near as intimidating as Vader and as such does not need to have the shroud held as tightly but can be seen as flawed from the start, and I think that is something really cool about what the Force Awakens kicked off and this new series can take that character to so many amazing places.
Mark Reilly was 100% spot on. It's absolutely awful that they openly admitted Battlefront was rushed and lacking content due to a release date. I really love the game, but knowing they gave us a half baked product is not cool at all. I agree with Kristian, they will probably make a much better Battlefront 2, but I am disgusted none the less...
To the council: Mads Mikkelsen's first name is pronounced without the "d" in it. Very common in Denmark -Just say "Mas" ;) Great show guys, thanx again for making my Fridays so much better :D
Maude is tha best! bring her back again soon! (this time less than a year)! great show guys! thanks for all the spoiler alerts, i still watched all the way through tho cause i wanna know everything about star wars! :D
POTENTIAL EPISODE VIII SPOILERS I read the action scene description. If it's true, we're gonna get something I've always wanted, which is an outdoor lightsaber fight at sunset. Rian Johnson definitely knows how to shoot a beautiful-looking scene in those kinds of conditions. This is like a dream come true.
I think it is really hard to rate the new canon books because they are all so different. To comment on the "Top 3": Lost Stars is great because it works so well together with the original trilogy and the different perspective really helps to understand the SW universe better and makes watching the old movies an even better experience than it was before. I also liked that the story is about two very unimportant characters that just live their lifes without affecting anything on a galactic scale. This really makes you emotional invested in these characters. However, I thought the writing was a bit "cheesy" at times. Bloodlines introduces us to a time we don't really know anything about. So we learn a lot about canon. The writing is very good and the plot serves the overall story well. We also visit many worlds which is nice to keep the imagination going. It answers a lot of the questions we were left with after TFA and we get a better inside view into Leia. There are other characters but we don't really get to know them that good. So emotional we basically only follow Leia, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lords of the Sith feels very different from the other two books because of the different author and because the story is about only one day and not a longer period of time. We learn more about the two Sith themselves and we get a deeper inside into an occupied world. However, I thought the second half of the book was a bit too long with only very few things happening. That being said, I liked the darker atmosphere. This would probably be a good "war"movie because it could have easily been told in 120 Minutes and has lots of action that would look great on the big screen (I hope that Rogue One will feel like this book). Which one is the best? I'm not even sure for myself so I definitely can't decide for you. In my opinion, these three books are all worth reading.
I disagree that Kylo Ren's character was diminished when he removed the mask. Did it make him appear less intimidating? Yep. Did that allow him to work his evil ways in a different way? Absolutely. The comparison to Vader removing his mask misses a key point: When the character changed by removing the mask, so did the actor(s). We no longer had the unparalleled ominous voice of James Earl Jones ("Nooooooooooo!" does not count.) We had completely different actors (Sebastian Shaw/Hayden Christensen), ruining our suspension of disbelief. Kylo Ren remained Adam Driver, with or without the voice enhanced mask.
As for Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO, I think they are REALLY close to making it cannon, and for KOTOR too. AND their newest expansion with updates for it are AWESOME story telling
I've been playing Galaxy of Heroes every day since it was launched. It's a lot of fun. Not much going for it in the story department, but the roster of characters is incredible. Lots of fun! I recommend it for all Star Wars fans and mobile gamers! Amazing graphics and gameplay!
+Vinton Bonner Commander has a small story line that is in the Star Wars Universe. Just like KOTOR, it's in the Star Wars Universe. They don't actually tell the Star Wars story just apart of it. So why can't you guys have acceptance for that. Same with Star Wars Uprising it tells someone else's story in the Star Wars Universe. You guys are always asking for the SW Universe to be bigger, well here are some other stories in the SWU. Yeah they aren't that big of stories cause yes they are only app games.
John Meschke I'm not complaining, and please don't group me together with the people who are. ''They don't actually tell the Star Wars story just apart of it. So why can't you guys have acceptance for that.'' ''You guys are always asking for the SW Universe to be bigger, well here are some other stories in the SWU'' I have nothing to do with either of those statements, and you are wrong to put me in it with the people who do. I'm thinking perhaps you misunderstood my comment, because I was defending the app games, specifically Galaxy of Heroes.
Vader has to be in the Rogue One film. He is the major part of the story line. Also keep in mind the Emperor Palpatine has a son...TRICLOPS. Disney may use Triclops for a story line. That being said, MARA JADE maybe the one in the BACTA TANK ROOM scene.
I have to disagree with Maude here. Kylo wasn't meant to be a "monster" or super evil villain in the sense Vader was. The whole point was he is a troubled young man who has major issues and a conflict within him. He didn't need the mask at all but kept is as symbolic of who he WANTED to be despite the fact that he isn't person.
Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso are basically the new canon versions of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors. At least visually they look pretty similar to how they did in Dark Forces.
really liked "fall of the resistance" for ep 8 title! the character descriptions for rogue 1 were interesting, but nothing I couldn't already speculate. I want to see cad bane in rebels!!
killing of the droids at the end of episode XI would be a really sad way to end the saga. Killing them off would be possible though, if they get crushed and blasted off into space then you can't repair them. BTW Leia was very worried when she saw C-3PO blown up but she wasn't as sad because she knew he could still be prepared and Anakin in Clone Wars is devastated when he loses R2. There are emotions behind the droids an they can definitely play them up.
I don't understand how people could possibly like puppet Yoda better. Yoda's fighting was showing how much of a legendary, powerful Jedi he was. That's why he was a total nutjob at it. Plus, he looked like 100 times cooler. I would much prefer it if they brought back CGI Yoda if they put him in the movies.
If you guys are going to go on about something you can't talk about can you put a link in the description to your source? I know you guys said Star Wars News.net but for those unfamiliar with that site, or any other site in the future, sifting through them can be annoying.
'Fall of the Resistance' does what Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith did as titles: it tells you the outcome. Problem is, those two other titles were for the close of a story, so it didn't matter if you went in knowing the outcome, because in 1983 you could probably guess that the good guys were going to win, and you knew that the bad guys had to win in 2005. This is the second chapter of a three part story, so I'm not very comfortable with knowing the outcome through the title.
Well Finn was crushing hard on Rey in TFA but it didn't feel like she cared that much about him. Man I'm really excited to see what they do with Finn in SW8. I hope he gets shining moments that aren't comedy related in SW8. We all saw how badass Rey/Kylo/Poe were compared to Finn. Btw I've watched every jedi council and they think Rey will hook up with Poe. I mean we know she loves the resistance and I can picture them bonding over being pilots. But they didn't even interact in TFA so I doubt they were trying to set up something between them in future. I'm guessing it will be Finn/Rey or Finn/Kelly Marie Tran. Don't really care about the romance plot that much but would be surprised if Rian Johnson don't use the incredible chemistry within Boyega/Ridley into something more than friendship between Rey/Finn. It would be horrible if we get another bad romance story like Padme/A.Skywalker. Those two had no chemistry whatsoever.
+Jarrett Edwards I'm kinda thinking that maybe Poe and Rey will get together. Now I'm basing that on their encounter in the novelization of The Force Awakens which is canon.
You guys forgot Tarkin. Here's my list in order of preference (haven't read Battlefront: Twilight yet): Lords of the Sith, Lost Stars, Bloodline, Tarkin, New Dawn, Dark Disciple, Aftermath, Heir to the Jedi. Enjoyed them all, but Lords had me feverishly turning pages with excitement. More from Paul S. Kemp and Claudia, please and thank you.
Hey guys! Wanted to clarify something about DARTH BANE. Bane being canon while Revan is not wont tell us much about Revan's appearance in canon, for one single fact. Darth Bane wasnt an invention of whats now know as Legends. Bane was created by George Lucas as part of the Episode I backstory. He is even mentioned in the novelization by Terry Brooks. So, in Clone Wars, Lucas wasnt "canonizing" a Legends character. He was fleshing out a character he created by didnt have a chance to mention directly in the movies. Darth Bane was the last known Sith, because thats what Lucas envisioned. Hope it clears it up.
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So happy to see Maude on Jedi Council again, I forgot how much I missed her with this group
I think Kylo should have absolutely taken the mask off, just as it happened in the film. It humanises him which was needed to have a different take on the generic bad guy. It showed that he was just a young, troubled guy.
+Josh Blanksby - It's a great subversion of expectations. Why would Han and Leia's son look evil?
+TubeEamo Precisely.
I absolutely agree. People say "He wasn't enough like Vader"-guys. He WASN'T Vader. He's his own character, with different layers. I thought he was great and can't wait to see where he goes next.
+Fortner Films 2016 Exactly, and they even used that knowing he wouldn't be able to top Vader and added it to his character.
Not only that but that reveal that JJ made about him later describes just how disturbed he is.
Maude thanks for coming back. You're the best, never been forgotten, and greatly missed 😟
I love how character names are considered spoilers now. We're gonna get to a point in the near future where the fucking color scheme is gonna be considered a spoiler.
Ikr, it's like the name of a movie is going to be a spoiler. It's crazy!
You're correct. Once the title for episode 8 is leaked it will be considered a spoiler.
Wait, there's an episode 9?!?! Fucking spoiler for episode 8! Now I know episode 8 isn't the end!
+KingofDemise666 the title was already leaked and people are freaking out because of it.
episode 8: c3-po dies
Nice episode it's great to have Maude back
As George watched Mark Reilly do Star Wars Trilogy in 30 min he finally didn't have the urge to say "Faster and More Intense".
Happy Birthday George.... and thank you.
I love that Donnie Yen (can't remember the name of his character at the moment) is described as a "spiritual warrior" because it goes with my theory that he's force sensitive but never became a Jedi. They said there'd be no Jedi in the film, but there could always be other kinds of force users, especially with Vader all but confirmed at this point. And Donnie Yen's character appears to be blind. A blind guy wouldn't be able to just K.O. a stormtrooper with his walking stick like he did in the trailer unless he's got something else going on.
+jonah hoff Toph?
+Mario Espinoza - Jerec
+TJ Hastie We've seen other groups of people in both canon and Legends who use the Force, but aren't Jedi. Such as the Father, son, and daughter in Clone Wars, the Witches of Dathomir who first appeared in in the EU then later canonized in Clone Wars, and the Fallanassi from the Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy who worship the White Current. The white current is how they perceive the Force, and they use it differently from Jedi and Sith just like the others I've mentioned.
I will never buy a product from a RUclips ad.
+DustingBread Why? A couple of the products are OK, or is it because the ads are so annoying and you refuse to watch. Do you press the Skip Ad button? I hate those ads that are too short to have a 'skip'.
you realize this is a business, right?
I will never even watch a RUclips ad.
Hello? Adblock? I never have any ads show up
I read the article. Holy shit. I'm thinking VIII is going to be the best Star Wars film yet. Rian Johnson is insanely talented.
+Jarrett Edwards Where I can find this article I went to starwars.com and I don't find it. So where
Thanks
+Isabelle Malo makingofstarwars
The theater cleaners are going to have to go overtime after Episode VIII.
+Jarrett Edwards That scene is gonna be incredible. Luke Skywalker is a total badass. That bit w/ the green lightsaber and force push. AWESOME.
Exept for the part where Rey is reluctant to do it. That does not match with Rey from TFA. Since she wanted to do it when she was captured.
I havent being here since the amc days so maude being here is a treat.
Kilo Ren is SUPPOSED to be vulnerable, you see his face in order to see how weak he actually is in the first movie.
Consider his back story and what he's been through and he is one of the most powerful characters that will exist in the Star Wars universe. Hold your judgement until Episode IX or until he is killed off first.
Thank you for reading my question out. Made my day. Keep up the good show
If this was the permanent line-up from now on, I'd be more than happy. Come back home, Maude. We miss you.
You guys literally brought me to tears with your birthday speeches to George. Thank you for that and well done, guys! Excellent episode, great speeches, and of course....THANK YOU George Lucas and the happiest of birthdays! The Force will be with you, always.
First time I've seen Maude and I fucking love her..!! Now that's a StarWars fan.!!!!
+GED I recently discovered the Game of Thrones episode recap show that the SourceFedNERD RUclips channel does, and Maude Garrett is one of the people that does that recap show. I absolutely love her on the Game of Thrones recap show, so as soon as I saw that Maude Garrett was one of the people on the panel for this week's episode of Collider Jedi Council, I automatically gave this video a thumbs up. :)
Thanks for not spoiling the Ep. 8 scene, it's way more exciting that way !!
Great show. Welcome back Maude!
This is the first time I see Maude on the council and I love her! She obviously loves Star Wars, understands the mythology, has a great knowledge on canon, good chemistry with the others and doesn't shout so loud like another certain blonde on TV talks, not mention her good looks and accent.
Jedi Academy: A Star Wars Story staring Sebastian Stan after the events of Return of The Jedi
Oh shit, Maude is back! This is great!
I love this show so much! It's honestly the one thing that I look forward to seeing every Thursday! I also enjoy trying to get other people to watch the show as well :)
Great episode! Loved seeing Maude on the show.
Maude!!! So glad to see you even if it is just for this one episode!! Guys, love the show, as usual
Nice to see Maude back on the show, even if it's only temporary. This was a pleasant beginning to my evening.
I'm hoping to see Darth Vader as being almost like Jason Voorhees, just relentless and brutal.
As am I, we must all remember this is not too far after he crossed over to the dark side. Therefore the loss of Padme, and what Vader assumes to be the twins too, still weighs heavy on him. I can't wait to see him raw as hell :D
+Dom Anthony Jesus No, it takes place just before Episode IV, so he would have been Vader for a while.
Phil Corrigan it's still not that far off, there is a reason why this is supposed to be a brutal Vader. I mean at the end of Episode III they already started building the Death Star so this is not to long after that. It wouldn't have been that long, maybe a year or two if that.
+Dom Anthony Jesus Showing the Death Star under construction at the end of Episode III was just one of thousands of things wrong with the prequels. It made no sense. But Rogue One definitely takes place just before IV. It's about the mission to get the plans that Leia has on the Tantive IV. So Vader will be just like he is in that movie.
Phil Corrigan yes you're right, I remember in IV they said lots of spies died for this Intel so don't let their deaths be in vain. It was when Luke was going to be a pilot and Han was taking of, on Yavin 4 I believe? Right before the attack on the death star. That's why this movie has me so hyped, it will give even more back story to the star wars canon, I'm all for that.
Battlefront burned the fans. It's going to take an amazing game with an outstanding campaign to bring the fans back.
If Yoda is in 8, I can't think he will still be 'guiding' Luke. Luke should not need guidance anymore. I think Yoda may be around more as a friend. If he was around for guidance, where was he when Luke was training Ben Solo?
the one who should appear in 8 of the ghosts is anakin i just think it makes more sense to the story and can give wisdom from experience in the dark side
+Tol Haller Because Yoda probably didn't find faith in Ben.
Maybe he WAS there. We don't know.
Just speculation.
+Tol Haller Maybe, yeah. If Yoda is there I would think it's more like the relationship between Mace Windu and Yoda, pretty much conferring in each other and being close friends.
The thing about Darth Bane being canonised in TCW is that he was actually originally created by George Lucas (at least according to Wookieepedia) when he was writing the backstory to the prequels, whereas Revan was, as far as I know, more or less entirely the creation of Bioware for KotOR. So it's easier to integrate Bane into the new canon because he was always a part of George's vision, he was always the Sith that created the Rule of Two. Granted it's fairly easy to fit Revan in as well because of course he's from 4,000 years before the films, but I think the story group might see it as more of a leap.
LOVE THE SPOILER TAG!!! Just leave it up the whole time spoilers are being discussed. Please use this on all Collider videos such as Heroes, Movie Talk, etc. GREAT IDEA!!!
Thanks for coming back Maude, don't be a stranger :)
Welcome back Maude we love you!!!
"funny that you said night" = sick ass scene introducing the Knights of Ren
MAUDE!!! What? lol great to see her back on the council.
Man oh man it's so great to have Maude back. We missed you something fierce! (However...what is wrong with jumping, bouncing, ass-kicking Yoda? It was AH-MAZING!)
Many Bothans died, to bring Maude Mothma back.
Oh man. That scene that they're talking about, that comes from Episode 8, sounds amazing. Seriously, tidbits like that are why I'm so pumped about Episode 8.
Does anyone have a link to the making Star Wars scene leak?
+Declan Pollard You can find it on Making Star Wars pretty easily.
The scene might be the most bad ass (not best) scene is Star Wars EVER. Comics, games, books included.
I completely disagree with Maude the thing that makes Kylo different from Vader is that from the first film we see him as a human being and in a lot of ways this new series will be his story as well. Lucas added layers to Vader with Empire and Jedi but I really love that from the start we see Kylo as a person who is lost it gives him his own flavor and shows how much he wants to be Vader instead of making him another Vader that is an important difference in my opinion. This character is nowhere near as intimidating as Vader and as such does not need to have the shroud held as tightly but can be seen as flawed from the start, and I think that is something really cool about what the Force Awakens kicked off and this new series can take that character to so many amazing places.
One stormtrooper saw Vader's face in Vader Down comic. Vader quickly force spins his neck on a 360
Opening gives me chills every time
Maude is so Star Wars savvy please keep her on!
I really hope we see all three force ghosts in Episode VIII.
Maude!!!! Great to see you back!!!
Mark Reilly was 100% spot on. It's absolutely awful that they openly admitted Battlefront was rushed and lacking content due to a release date. I really love the game, but knowing they gave us a half baked product is not cool at all. I agree with Kristian, they will probably make a much better Battlefront 2, but I am disgusted none the less...
maudes back maudes backs maudes back!!!!!!
A new Jedi Council has arrived! Now the weekend officially begins for me! After this, on to Schmoes!
being both a fan of sourcefed and collider, this made my day :)
To the council:
Mads Mikkelsen's first name is pronounced without the "d" in it. Very common in Denmark -Just say "Mas" ;)
Great show guys, thanx again for making my Fridays so much better :D
Yeay! Maud! Welcome back! Missen you so much! :)
Ahhhh
Wouldn't be Thursday w/out my favorite Star Wars talk show!
SUPER FREAKING EXCITED FOR EPISODE 8 THANK YOU FOR NOT SPOILING THE SCENE!!! I WILL TRY TO AVOID IT UP UNTIL IT SHOWS UP IN MY YAHOO NEWS AT LEAST
Maude is tha best! bring her back again soon! (this time less than a year)!
great show guys! thanks for all the spoiler alerts, i still watched all the way through tho cause i wanna know everything about star wars! :D
I happened to like Yoda flipping around and being a badass thank you very much...
Great to have Maude drop by!
I missed Maude and her random Pokemon references so much. Glad she came back for an episode.
POTENTIAL EPISODE VIII SPOILERS
I read the action scene description. If it's true, we're gonna get something I've always wanted, which is an outdoor lightsaber fight at sunset. Rian Johnson definitely knows how to shoot a beautiful-looking scene in those kinds of conditions. This is like a dream come true.
yea!!!! Maude is back. stopped to comment my joy joy feelings. now this show is going to be great..
Honestly, Ciena looks exactly as I pictured her in Lost Stars.
I was expecting shorter hair but other than that she's pretty close
Another great solid episode. Thanks!
Aww that George Lucas Birthday respects was touching... I did need a reminder of how much he has shaped people's lives, including mine of course!
And then there's that old compromisin', enterprisin', anything but tranquilizin',
Right on Maude!
Great panel today
MISSED YOU MAUDE XOXOXOX! SO HAPPY!
Star Wars Episode VIII: The Order of Ren
"I'll have a cheeseburger, and a large orange drink."
Maude! My smile was wide when I saw that she was back!
I think it is really hard to rate the new canon books because they are all so different. To comment on the "Top 3":
Lost Stars is great because it works so well together with the original trilogy and the different perspective really helps to understand the SW universe better and makes watching the old movies an even better experience than it was before. I also liked that the story is about two very unimportant characters that just live their lifes without affecting anything on a galactic scale. This really makes you emotional invested in these characters. However, I thought the writing was a bit "cheesy" at times.
Bloodlines introduces us to a time we don't really know anything about. So we learn a lot about canon. The writing is very good and the plot serves the overall story well. We also visit many worlds which is nice to keep the imagination going. It answers a lot of the questions we were left with after TFA and we get a better inside view into Leia. There are other characters but we don't really get to know them that good. So emotional we basically only follow Leia, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Lords of the Sith feels very different from the other two books because of the different author and because the story is about only one day and not a longer period of time. We learn more about the two Sith themselves and we get a deeper inside into an occupied world. However, I thought the second half of the book was a bit too long with only very few things happening. That being said, I liked the darker atmosphere. This would probably be a good "war"movie because it could have easily been told in 120 Minutes and has lots of action that would look great on the big screen (I hope that Rogue One will feel like this book).
Which one is the best? I'm not even sure for myself so I definitely can't decide for you. In my opinion, these three books are all worth reading.
Please let the Jedi Council be a real news channel, to me I think that it is implied that a news channel has spoilers.
Where's Tarkin in your list Harloff?
I've missed Maude. :(
the best thing about this new is that Ben Mendelssohn is NOT Grand Admiral Thrawn. I would like that character for a whole trilogy
I disagree that Kylo Ren's character was diminished when he removed the mask. Did it make him appear less intimidating? Yep. Did that allow him to work his evil ways in a different way? Absolutely.
The comparison to Vader removing his mask misses a key point: When the character changed by removing the mask, so did the actor(s). We no longer had the unparalleled ominous voice of James Earl Jones ("Nooooooooooo!" does not count.) We had completely different actors (Sebastian Shaw/Hayden Christensen), ruining our suspension of disbelief. Kylo Ren remained Adam Driver, with or without the voice enhanced mask.
As for Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO, I think they are REALLY close to making it cannon, and for KOTOR too. AND their newest expansion with updates for it are AWESOME story telling
Awesome Maude is back!
Great show. Maude was great to have on council. Bring her back when can.
I've been playing Galaxy of Heroes every day since it was launched. It's a lot of fun. Not much going for it in the story department, but the roster of characters is incredible. Lots of fun! I recommend it for all Star Wars fans and mobile gamers! Amazing graphics and gameplay!
+Vinton Bonner Commander has a small story line that is in the Star Wars Universe. Just like KOTOR, it's in the Star Wars Universe. They don't actually tell the Star Wars story just apart of it. So why can't you guys have acceptance for that. Same with Star Wars Uprising it tells someone else's story in the Star Wars Universe. You guys are always asking for the SW Universe to be bigger, well here are some other stories in the SWU. Yeah they aren't that big of stories cause yes they are only app games.
John Meschke I'm not complaining, and please don't group me together with the people who are. ''They don't actually tell the Star Wars story just apart of it. So why can't you guys have acceptance for that.'' ''You guys are always asking for the SW Universe to be bigger, well here are some other stories in the SWU'' I have nothing to do with either of those statements, and you are wrong to put me in it with the people who do. I'm thinking perhaps you misunderstood my comment, because I was defending the app games, specifically Galaxy of Heroes.
Maude we've missed you hope you come back on again soon
Can never have enough Reilly!
Good to have Maude back on the show!
great group and awesome news excited for everything to come
Vader has to be in the Rogue One film. He is the major part of the story line.
Also keep in mind the Emperor Palpatine has a son...TRICLOPS.
Disney may use Triclops for a story line. That being said, MARA JADE maybe the one in the BACTA TANK ROOM scene.
I have to disagree with Maude here. Kylo wasn't meant to be a "monster" or super evil villain in the sense Vader was. The whole point was he is a troubled young man who has major issues and a conflict within him. He didn't need the mask at all but kept is as symbolic of who he WANTED to be despite the fact that he isn't person.
Can we have more Maude on Jedi Council? She's great!
Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso are basically the new canon versions of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors. At least visually they look pretty similar to how they did in Dark Forces.
really liked "fall of the resistance" for ep 8 title! the character descriptions for rogue 1 were interesting, but nothing I couldn't already speculate. I want to see cad bane in rebels!!
killing of the droids at the end of episode XI would be a really sad way to end the saga. Killing them off would be possible though, if they get crushed and blasted off into space then you can't repair them. BTW Leia was very worried when she saw C-3PO blown up but she wasn't as sad because she knew he could still be prepared and Anakin in Clone Wars is devastated when he loses R2. There are emotions behind the droids an they can definitely play them up.
Welcome back, Maude!
Lords of The Sith, Tarkin, and Battlefront: Twilight Company are my favorite Star Wars book.
I don't understand how people could possibly like puppet Yoda better. Yoda's fighting was showing how much of a legendary, powerful Jedi he was. That's why he was a total nutjob at it. Plus, he looked like 100 times cooler. I would much prefer it if they brought back CGI Yoda if they put him in the movies.
"You're wearing an Empire hat as we speak!" Hahahaha!
Thank the Maker, Happy Birthday George.
I'm glad I read lost stars...that's what I pictured her looking like...but her curl on the other side of the face
If you guys are going to go on about something you can't talk about can you put a link in the description to your source? I know you guys said Star Wars News.net but for those unfamiliar with that site, or any other site in the future, sifting through them can be annoying.
+ttandc just put the damn spoiler sign up and talk about it such wuzs
Betty Owen That's true, they did put the spoiler sign up and then still didn't talk about it. haha :D
'Fall of the Resistance' does what Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith did as titles: it tells you the outcome. Problem is, those two other titles were for the close of a story, so it didn't matter if you went in knowing the outcome, because in 1983 you could probably guess that the good guys were going to win, and you knew that the bad guys had to win in 2005. This is the second chapter of a three part story, so I'm not very comfortable with knowing the outcome through the title.
The new female is the love interest for FINN. I'm calling it.
***** I'm talking about Kelly Marie Tran on Episode 8. (based on the leaks)
+Leo I kind of want Finn and Rey to get together
Jarrett Edwards Me too but it seems they won't make it happen for the fans.
Well Finn was crushing hard on Rey in TFA but it didn't feel like she cared that much about him. Man I'm really excited to see what they do with Finn in SW8. I hope he gets shining moments that aren't comedy related in SW8. We all saw how badass Rey/Kylo/Poe were compared to Finn. Btw I've watched every jedi council and they think Rey will hook up with Poe. I mean we know she loves the resistance and I can picture them bonding over being pilots. But they didn't even interact in TFA so I doubt they were trying to set up something between them in future. I'm guessing it will be Finn/Rey or Finn/Kelly Marie Tran. Don't really care about the romance plot that much but would be surprised if Rian Johnson don't use the incredible chemistry within Boyega/Ridley into something more than friendship between Rey/Finn. It would be horrible if we get another bad romance story like Padme/A.Skywalker. Those two had no chemistry whatsoever.
+Jarrett Edwards I'm kinda thinking that maybe Poe and Rey will get together. Now I'm basing that on their encounter in the novelization of The Force Awakens which is canon.
i miss maude....she brings more energy to the show than anybody else and shes funny...come back to the force maude!!!
great to see Maude back the Queen Amaudala. Damn it Kristian, you had one job! lol
You guys forgot Tarkin. Here's my list in order of preference (haven't read Battlefront: Twilight yet): Lords of the Sith, Lost Stars, Bloodline, Tarkin, New Dawn, Dark Disciple, Aftermath, Heir to the Jedi. Enjoyed them all, but Lords had me feverishly turning pages with excitement. More from Paul S. Kemp and Claudia, please and thank you.
Maude please come on more often!
battlefront shipped 14 million copies not sold. currently across all systems only 27,000 people in total are still playing
Hey guys! Wanted to clarify something about DARTH BANE. Bane being canon while Revan is not wont tell us much about Revan's appearance in canon, for one single fact. Darth Bane wasnt an invention of whats now know as Legends. Bane was created by George Lucas as part of the Episode I backstory. He is even mentioned in the novelization by Terry Brooks. So, in Clone Wars, Lucas wasnt "canonizing" a Legends character. He was fleshing out a character he created by didnt have a chance to mention directly in the movies. Darth Bane was the last known Sith, because thats what Lucas envisioned. Hope it clears it up.
he created but*
+BlackSwordChronicles I've known about this for a long time. I even remember his name from when I read the novelization so many years ago.
I really enjoyed New Dawn after reading Tarkin in that 'Rise of the Empire' or whatever it was called. Also appreciated it having watched Rebels.