I agree but after watching this channel for as long as I have I'm pretty sure they don't blast most of the time. Maybe different now in the new room but I recall them mentioning they are keeping it reasonable volume... IDK
TPS just did one, although it wasn't a comparison it was just a demo of both. I'm still none the wiser as to what these things really do and how to use them. It's all a bit too high-tech for me (anything that involves anything more than basic computer use is like Kryptonite to me).
My 2 cents: I would love to see the next version be exactly what this is PLUS the addition of modeled amps that you can mix in with your real world amps etc.. with a true flat DI that you can output to a track for re-amping later. And a hi z input for the guitar. Then I feel it would be the absolute perfect piece of gear.. Great job UAD! Keep it comin'.
Well, that's been one of the most informative and well put video review about the OX! Thanks for doing it. I'm definitely convinced (and sold!). Some serious GAS going on right now here.
Here we have a prime example of a 21st century paradox courtesy of modern technology. The more you push towards attaining authentic sounds that we know and love, the further away you are actually getting from it.
So nice to hear from an expert, what we have already experienced, that most reactive loads ruin the sound, and that IR-s are NOT a perfect reproduction of a speaker! Finally the truth had been said, despite the loads of commercial advertisements, wich all claim their device to sound perfect!
Great job on a tricky subject. Tricky in the sense that it takes us a little out the typical guitarist knowledge comfort zone. Also tricky because of the variety (and price range) of RL attenuators ... some of which you really must question if they are what they claim at all. I'm particularly interested in this topic at the moment (for my Vibro-King, HRD) so I'm ramping up understanding of these products. A shoot-out of similar boxes would be very helpful. The Tone King video was also interesting, but sadly, with a 30W power rating it can't be used for either of my amps. 2 things I've already concluded 1) this category of product is very much "you get what you pay for" and 2) we've come a long way from the Marshall Power Brake!
This looks pretty cool. I personally can't imagine ever needing one, but I suppose if I had a 100watt tube head it'd make sense. There's so many GOOD low watt tube amps now though for gigging and recording.
I don't know why it took me so long to watch this one... but damn... the Captain just did such a great job asking the perfect questions and clarifying things that I had not realized from other videos and descriptions about the OX. $1200 USD (shipped) for a top of the line reactive load with attenuator is already a good deal, but then you get their unbeatable mic emulation, then their unbeatable compressor emulation... then their unbeatable plate reverb... so that's worth the $1200 easy. Now on top of that you get their rooms, their room mic and amp mic placements, their eq, their deep algorithms of speaker cabinets.. basically free. But THEN you get a wide variety of rare and prized speakers that you can change in an instant that you can age and make cry? JEEEEZ. I thought this thing was snooty and high priced. Wrong. This thing is a must have for someone who tours mid level rooms where amp miking is difficult and absolutely a boon for guys like me who travel to studios (modern ones are often in non traditional locations like storefronts and back houses in homes) with preciously maintained amps from the 50s and 60s. Sure, mic my 53 year old speaker. But you can also have other speakers too! And simultaneously record a track of DI for your own IRs! Owning this will get me more repeat work, absolutely. ************** To answer your question, LEE, I would love it of you used this for every demo in the future EXCEPT amps where we want to hear the stock speaker to determine if they chose a good one. Get me? I want to hear the speaker if the product is selling me a speaker as part of the amp. If you are demoing a new amp head? Psh. Put it in the OX so I can hear it even better. All the pedals... Tube Amp and Ox would be great. ******** Great video. I learned a LOT!
In my opinion the only major oversight seems to be there is no line in. So you can play with headphones with a fully produced sound, but with no backing track.... bummer. I guess there's also a missed opportunity to have this work as a audio interface through the USB connection... Still a very appealing product.
What I would do is using my UA Apllo interface and Console app, is take the line out as in input and then mix the signal from there to monitor recording, play along with DAW, RUclips etc.
Two Notes are pretty much in a league of their own (Torpedo Studio user myself), so it's nice to see another quality take on this concept. An additional option and some healthy competition is welcome. I don't see the need for a shootout here, as I would expect it to come down purely to personal preference usually found among high end gear comparisons. As for using products like the Ox or the Torpedo for Andertons I absolutely get it, dealing with speakers and microphones and the volumes can be exhausting to say the least. I think for an amp demo it's valid to go the extra mile and use the matching cab. For amp shootouts however, a product like this would add rock solid consistency. For guitars and basses just mix it up and use it occasionally as you would with different cabs.
I'm not really big on the product itself (what can I say..I'm still loving my Kemper), but definitely by far the best product representative presentation I've ever seen.. he was excellent! And I'll add, the product does sound great on a receiving end!
Like the these more technical equipment walkthroughs - love to see some more UA stuff, Torpedo, even Mics (ie Miktek, Neumann).. etc.. UA guy did a good job explaining things. We can only take so many pedal demos 😬 yes, you could use this in demos and it would be fine. The OX is pretty expensive IMO.
It would by fine by me if Andertons were to use something like the OX, especially if it encourages them to demonstrate more sound profile samples that might have been un-feasible due to volume issues.
Not taking anything away from Two Notes as they have excellent products and I have and still own some of their stuff. But man it is hilarious to read comments stating that it's superior to the Ox when the Ox isn't even out and yet, they haven't even tried it. Typical though.
The price I can't do and I wouldn't need all the digital stuff however if this was at a reasonable price for the analog side to use as a attenuator solely then I would be sold , by far the best attenuation I've heard that doesn't suck the tone of your amp out
See that a Windows 10 version of the App IS now available (hallelujah!) so ready to pull the trigger. Just what I've been waiting for. Android still not yet, but I can live with that.
I love my Torpedo Captor for recording silent :) I'm not really a fan of the tone cry and 'speakers failing', I always prefer higher wattage speakers to get rid of that sound so for me the IR's are perfect ;) This product is very good IMO, but I wouldn't find it way more usable in my situation than my way more affordable and also very great sounding Torpedo+interface situation :) That said, if you're a big fan of the more accurate speaker simulation I would check this one out for sure! Great video guys! Cheers
Where this product is cool, is that you can bring a studio mic'd sound to a live gig. You can't use the same mic's live that you can in a studio - live you have to close mic with not much choice of mic, sm57 and that's about it.
As far as cone cry goes, never heard of it before and don't know what I'm looking for quite yet aurally. But nonetheless I could hear something happening while you guys were playing with it. So I concede it is a thing and it didn't sound bad! Concerning how you guys capture your audio performances, I say just do what you do best and do a video comparison. Make it completely blind for us and see if we truly care.
So (now you mention it) shouldn't amp manufacturers write the labels on the back upside down as well as the right way up? or don't they ever use the things when standing in front of them like everyone else does?
Would have been much better had you used the Marshall straight away and if Lee didn't continually talk over the rep, IMHO. Fantastic box, I will absolutely be purchasing one soon. No need to compare with other load boxs, this is light years ahead of the others...
Hmmm I'm intrigued. Having a two notes torpedo live myself, I would be very interested in a comparison to see just how different it is. And the pros and cons of each
Can we keep on doing it old school with the mics please Captain. If anything, I want to hear more room mics in future vids. As good as this thing sounds I’m never going to get one so want to hear amps in the future uncoloured. Cheers
So considering the fact that there are 2 line outs, does that mean when sending the signal into say, a Protools session, you can send each "mic sim" into it's own channel to do further work?
I´ll buy one as soon as they are out :) What guys dont think about is what you get inte the price. Sure it will be a good attenuator. But the money is in the Digital world.. I dont know many homerecorders that got all these mics, cabs and the most important a big studio recording ROOM. Sure you can stick an SM57 at your cab but half the sound is gone. The Room is so so important..you just dont need space but you got to give it an acoustic treatmeant aswell. Just to buy a Royer R-121 is 1300$.. And with Universal audio´s software and modeling history I am pretty sure it will be very accurate to the real thing. even if it´s just 80% of the real thing it´s still worth it. Though I think it´s so close that know one will no the difference.. And to get all that in one compact box, sure sold me one :) Though im satisfied with what im seeing/hearing now, I guess that they will update with mics, cabs, room and/or other features, maybe ability to run wet/dry rigs, blend two cabs together.... who knows..
OK, here is a really stupid question. Can you take a line out from a solid-state amplifier and run it through the ox to use it’s speaker cabinet simulation and reverb, delay, etc.?
Question, I have a vibroking and I love the idea of the OX.. but I was under the impression my VK had a 2ohm, cab. I could be wrong.. how are you running this one? Are the 20th anniversaries a different ohm?
Well that sounds fantastic. But does it djent? I mean is it OK for high gain stuff like a Peavey 6505 mh? TwoNotes seem to be a bunch of metal heads so live/studio seem great for that genre, is this targeting more blues sounds? Also, what is the latency for all the modelling? IIRC the live was 3ms and the Studio was 3-5ms depending on mode. I do find it's always easier to play in time with lower latency.
so when you go to the digital part and turn off your amp speaker, can you still use the amp controls to shape the sound? Im thinking you would have to because there are only speaker options inside the digital part. thanks.
I have a Vibro-King and I’m almost 100% on getting an OX for it knowing it can be done here, but... My question is how is it possible, because as far as I’ve read the OX doesn’t have a 2ohm setting and the VK has a 2ohm speaker box.. Can someone chime in here and explain how I’m either wrong about the ox’s settings or maybe how it doesn’t matter? (I’m not that savvy with ohm stuff, I play amps but don’t really know much about how they work). Cheers!
Did you ever get any sort of answer to this question? I'm wondering the same thing. I would love to use the Ox Box with my VK, but I'm not going to mess around with ohms matchers and other madness to make it happen.
Hello Andertons, i have a question. i still hear a faint noise through the guitar speaker when the speaker level on the ox box is set to 0 . is this normal or is it an issiue. there are some pages who try to answer that question but no one seems to know exactly. thx a lot for answering.
I Have triaxis with a 2:90 simulclass amp. It sounds legendary but it'a too loud all of the time. Is this the solution to my crisis or should I just buy a much quieter amp??
Where is Tore ?? When do you bring us quality amp in a pedal to plug in the mix desk (as well computer or Apollo box) ?? I feel it coming. It got to be impeccable though. If possible, make it all-analog.
Stupid question but.. When changing the speaker cab setting does the sound still come out of the amp speaker? Or is it just coming through the headphones or ipad?
I think for amp/cab demos, I would prefer to hear the sound of the actual gear mic'ed up. This piece of kit is certainly impressive, but in a way it does too much to make a "nice" sound, great for recording or live, but lets just hear the gear with minimal processing. For effects and guitars, go for it.
Hello! Just one question. So on the stage i also dont need to microphone my amp? I can hear my speaker for “monitor” and same time send the processed sound to the mixer? Thank you!
The Two Notes Torpedo Reload is basically exactly the same thing aside from the "Dynamic speaker emulation" thing he was taking about (which I'm not sure is total bull or not). It costs less half as much money, still a lot but not that crazy and comes with so many options, like 25 free cabs and mics as well as like 50 more you can buy from the store at pretty reasonable cost. ON TOP OF THAT you can use any impulse response available from other companies if you prefer, I don't think Universal Audio will let you do that. IMHO The Two Notes Reload is just a superior product, in terms of price, size and functionality, rated to 150 watts. Maybe the user interface isn't as "fancy" but it's damn well designed and easier to understand than any I've used anywhere... on par with Positive Grid's interface. If that isn't enough the Reload can do DI into your soundcard, reamping your takes for tweaking, completely silent recording or reactive load attenuation. The OX seems like a good product but I think it's just a copy of the Reload for more than twice as much money... More money than is accessible to the regular gear-head whereas a regular guy can afford the Reload and get the same results with MUCH more freedom. I mean they don't let you move the mics at all? and I doubt they'll let you use separate impulses... No disrespect to Capt. Anderton or the store. Of course this is just my 2 cents...
The Two Notes isn’t an attenuator, it’s just a dummy load. And we all thought the speaker emulation on the OX was the best we’d ever heard. However, we do think the Two Notes stuff is excellent too!
Interesting... but I believe you are mistaken. On the website and in the documentation I received with the product says it's an "active reactive load" circuitry. I've had passive attenuators which are just a series of resistors and this blows them away completely. In my experience with the Reload and after watching the video, these two products are exactly the same in most regards. I believe in American products and mean no harm to this great company but I believe the Reload is the superior product. www.two-notes.com/en/torpedo-reload
Point taken, I do however think that the Reload does the same things as the OX. The studio cannot "attenuate" or load down the output signal of the amp between the power section and speaker cabinet. That's why I used it in comparison.
The Reload doesn't have speaker sim, which is a massive difference. You have to do it within your computer with the WoS plugin (or any other speaker sim plugin). To get closer to the OX, you must add a Torpedo CAB (just speaker sim, headphones out...), and there you're very close to the OX price. The Reload is particularly great for reamping (the OX can't do it apparently), but the Reload + CAB combo doesn't have any digital output (which the OX has). The Torpedo Studio is a great alternative, but more expensive than the OX, with a couple of pros and cons compared to the OX. Honestly, all great units, but don't think we can objectively say one is "far superior" to the others. It's just about what you need.
so what your saying is ....if you buy an old marshall head and old cab with original speakers and this ox dubriflop, all for an approximated cost of over £5,000, you can practice at home with it.... whats wrong with thr10 ?
it's called "OX" because it can carry "the load." A beast of burden like Paul Bunyan's ox, "Babe, the Blue Ox ." Also, because of their name, Aux! A double entendre...C'mon!
I'm fascinated by stuff like this and the two notes stuff, how to avoid dodgy soundmen and their placement choices/lack of any idea and how to achieve consistent tone. Brilliant. However, do they work for clean sounds? These applications are always demoed towards gainy sounds, at low volume. HELP, GOOD PEOPLE :) xx
"It's so quiet, it's like playing with a 10 watt amp".....LOL! Come over to my house and jam on my 4 watt Vox AC4C1 with an eternity love pedal pushing the front end and tell me how quiet you think it is? Most people can't stand to be in the same room with it.
Agreed, power level is not a good indication of volume. I have a 50 watt amp that can attenuate all the way down to 7 watts, and even at that setting, anything past 1.5 on the master volume is uncomfortable to be near. The bottom line with tube amps is they only sound good when the tubes are loaded/start to break up, which only happens at high volumes. That being said, if you get a low wattage amp (like mine scaled down or yours) and a decent quality reactive load (not passive load), you can bring its signal down to line level pretty easily and play it at a comfortable bedroom level through headphones or monitor speakers.
this gets a 100 watt marshall quieter than the quarter watt mode on a actv 4 but without the compressed squashed sound, I've heard it in person, blown away, but whatever
Cone-Cry? Just make it sound like a speaker (less quack) and perhaps give us more 4x12-type cabinets and speaker selections in general, but Cone-Cry? Umm, I can live without that, since Ive never heard it anyway.
Ive seen/heard another review on sweetwater and that strat aloways flubs out on the bottom strings. My problem is that I dont know if its the strat or the OX Box doing that. But its definetly a negative and so is the hum that comes of the strat. I think you would have a much better chance of selling these boxes if you eliminated these negatives. Im probably going to buy one anyway but the first thing Ill be checking is if the low end flubs out and if its inherently noisy. If you are trying to sell something then you want it to sound as good as possible and using that noisy strat with a strange flubby low end is killing your chances. Your playing is very nice though. Im not saying this to be critical. Im saying it because before I purchase one of these, I would like to know what is causeing the noise and flub.
this video is the real proof between a person who knows how to sell and who doesn't know anything! Capitan explain the product in less than 30 seconds when the UA sales guy doesn't know even the name! shame!
That is the difference between an engineering mentality and a sales mentality. Obviously the UA rep knew how to use the product, but he has the "so cool because engineering" mentality, rather than the "so cool, because features" mentality. What works best to make a product is not exactly the same as what works best to sell it. There is some overlap, but for the most part they are two separate skill sets.
There seemed to be some unpleasantness in the high end from both the Fender and Marshall, and I listen to videos on here all the time, many with great guitar sounds.
It's an awful lot of money. Three times as expensive as an ''Iron Man reactive load'' for example, although this does do more. A two notes torpedo live is half the price too. As an outsider to silent recording - it seems to hitch on the digital modelling being preferable to impulse response. For the oldies like me, this feels a little bit like ''Betamax'' - technically better, but soon to be redundant tech.
Expensive, but impressive. Physical modelling is the next step in audio, it is only recently that the DSP power needed to do it in real time has become cheap enough. We will start to see lower cost options from others before long. Unfortunately, the reactive load part won't get cheaper any time soon, good quality high power electronics always costs real money.
Check out all the specs of the OX please. It is so much more. The iron man will only take a load of 30w! This will take any load.. Also the Torpedo live is not an attenuator... So you will need the Torpedo Reload Reactive-Active Attenuator as well as the Torpedo live as well to do what the OX does.. This means this is not an unreasonable price we think...
Good to know. There is always a reason things are more expensive, and knowing nothing about these other load boxes that others are claiming are so much cheaper that do the same thing I just didn't know.
Jesus dude, really? He said it was just a cool name. And obviously the word "Ox" sounds like "Aux" so someone called it that. Does it really matter that the guy doesn't know the exact reason they came up with that name? smh
@@deejschmidt Exactly! I was about to type the exact thing until I saw that you'd already nailed it. I was just going to add the example of Babe the Blue Ox of Paul Bunyan's.
You should add a db reader into the recording room, so we have an idea of how loud some of these sounds are.
I agree but after watching this channel for as long as I have I'm pretty sure they don't blast most of the time. Maybe different now in the new room but I recall them mentioning they are keeping it reasonable volume... IDK
"Reasonable volume" just like Chappers using "low gain"
Oh that would be cool, up on the wall or in an overlay.
STRAT-0-HOLIC u
an Ox is a beast of burden, it bears the load, makes perfect sense
That Universal Audio dude's playing was killer! Sweet
Very informative video. I like these sessions where Lee goes one on one with companies who are working to do something innovative.
Now we need a Torpedo Vs Ox comparison.
and Fryette Power Station
And tone king iron man
not really much to compare its totally different from any other out there.
TPS just did one, although it wasn't a comparison it was just a demo of both.
I'm still none the wiser as to what these things really do and how to use them.
It's all a bit too high-tech for me (anything that involves anything more than basic computer use is like Kryptonite to me).
been done by a few other reviewers, the torpedo studio and FPS are muck better than the OX box
My 2 cents: I would love to see the next version be exactly what this is PLUS the addition of modeled amps that you can mix in with your real world amps etc.. with a true flat DI that you can output to a track for re-amping later. And a hi z input for the guitar. Then I feel it would be the absolute perfect piece of gear.. Great job UAD! Keep it comin'.
Well, that's been one of the most informative and well put video review about the OX! Thanks for doing it. I'm definitely convinced (and sold!). Some serious GAS going on right now here.
you are stepping into johan segeborn territory
Here we have a prime example of a 21st century paradox courtesy of modern technology. The more you push towards attaining authentic sounds that we know and love, the further away you are actually getting from it.
Yeah but at least you can still hear oncoming traffic and stuff.
So nice to hear from an expert, what we have already experienced, that most reactive loads ruin the sound, and that IR-s are NOT a perfect reproduction of a speaker! Finally the truth had been said, despite the loads of commercial advertisements, wich all claim their device to sound perfect!
You guys going to be looking at that new op amp big muff reissue soon?
Great demo I’m REALLY liking this thing
Great job on a tricky subject. Tricky in the sense that it takes us a little out the typical guitarist knowledge comfort zone. Also tricky because of the variety (and price range) of RL attenuators ... some of which you really must question if they are what they claim at all. I'm particularly interested in this topic at the moment (for my Vibro-King, HRD) so I'm ramping up understanding of these products. A shoot-out of similar boxes would be very helpful. The Tone King video was also interesting, but sadly, with a 30W power rating it can't be used for either of my amps. 2 things I've already concluded 1) this category of product is very much "you get what you pay for" and 2) we've come a long way from the Marshall Power Brake!
This looks pretty cool. I personally can't imagine ever needing one, but I suppose if I had a 100watt tube head it'd make sense. There's so many GOOD low watt tube amps now though for gigging and recording.
I don't know why it took me so long to watch this one... but damn... the Captain just did such a great job asking the perfect questions and clarifying things that I had not realized from other videos and descriptions about the OX. $1200 USD (shipped) for a top of the line reactive load with attenuator is already a good deal, but then you get their unbeatable mic emulation, then their unbeatable compressor emulation... then their unbeatable plate reverb... so that's worth the $1200 easy. Now on top of that you get their rooms, their room mic and amp mic placements, their eq, their deep algorithms of speaker cabinets.. basically free. But THEN you get a wide variety of rare and prized speakers that you can change in an instant that you can age and make cry? JEEEEZ. I thought this thing was snooty and high priced. Wrong. This thing is a must have for someone who tours mid level rooms where amp miking is difficult and absolutely a boon for guys like me who travel to studios (modern ones are often in non traditional locations like storefronts and back houses in homes) with preciously maintained amps from the 50s and 60s. Sure, mic my 53 year old speaker. But you can also have other speakers too! And simultaneously record a track of DI for your own IRs! Owning this will get me more repeat work, absolutely. ************** To answer your question, LEE, I would love it of you used this for every demo in the future EXCEPT amps where we want to hear the stock speaker to determine if they chose a good one. Get me? I want to hear the speaker if the product is selling me a speaker as part of the amp. If you are demoing a new amp head? Psh. Put it in the OX so I can hear it even better. All the pedals... Tube Amp and Ox would be great. ******** Great video. I learned a LOT!
1200 bucks a stuff made in china ...ahem
That tone with the jtm45 is just to die for man
In my opinion the only major oversight seems to be there is no line in. So you can play with headphones with a fully produced sound, but with no backing track.... bummer. I guess there's also a missed opportunity to have this work as a audio interface through the USB connection... Still a very appealing product.
What I would do is using my UA Apllo interface and Console app, is take the line out as in input and then mix the signal from there to monitor recording, play along with DAW, RUclips etc.
Two Notes are pretty much in a league of their own (Torpedo Studio user myself), so it's nice to see another quality take on this concept. An additional option and some healthy competition is welcome. I don't see the need for a shootout here, as I would expect it to come down purely to personal preference usually found among high end gear comparisons.
As for using products like the Ox or the Torpedo for Andertons I absolutely get it, dealing with speakers and microphones and the volumes can be exhausting to say the least. I think for an amp demo it's valid to go the extra mile and use the matching cab. For amp shootouts however, a product like this would add rock solid consistency. For guitars and basses just mix it up and use it occasionally as you would with different cabs.
I'm not really big on the product itself (what can I say..I'm still loving my Kemper), but definitely by far the best product representative presentation I've ever seen.. he was excellent!
And I'll add, the product does sound great on a receiving end!
The Les Paul sounds sooo sweet✊🏻the Strat too when they use the Marshall ☠️☠️☠️✊🏻🏴🏁
Like the these more technical equipment walkthroughs - love to see some more UA stuff, Torpedo, even Mics (ie Miktek, Neumann).. etc.. UA guy did a good job explaining things. We can only take so many pedal demos 😬 yes, you could use this in demos and it would be fine. The OX is pretty expensive IMO.
It would by fine by me if Andertons were to use something like the OX, especially if it encourages them to demonstrate more sound profile samples that might have been un-feasible due to volume issues.
Sounds killer. Great mix of analog and digital
I just picked one of these up , this is a really helpful video !
So funny! I'm a rug in front of the cab guy, such a cool feature.
Yes!! Been waiting for this!
Not taking anything away from Two Notes as they have excellent products and I have and still own some of their stuff. But man it is hilarious to read comments stating that it's superior to the Ox when the Ox isn't even out and yet, they haven't even tried it. Typical though.
A dream comes true. Love it!
It's creepy how, dude stares at the Captain while playing. LOL!!! 10:22
Ding Dong Ditch not as weird as your name haha
Yeah,First thing I noticed.That kind of look you get from people with dismembered corpses in their garage freezer
@@BOTiTTE I disagree, the look on this guys face is unsettling 😂
The price I can't do and I wouldn't need all the digital stuff however if this was at a reasonable price for the analog side to use as a attenuator solely then I would be sold , by far the best attenuation I've heard that doesn't suck the tone of your amp out
See that a Windows 10 version of the App IS now available (hallelujah!) so ready to pull the trigger. Just what I've been waiting for. Android still not yet, but I can live with that.
I love my Torpedo Captor for recording silent :) I'm not really a fan of the tone cry and 'speakers failing', I always prefer higher wattage speakers to get rid of that sound so for me the IR's are perfect ;) This product is very good IMO, but I wouldn't find it way more usable in my situation than my way more affordable and also very great sounding Torpedo+interface situation :) That said, if you're a big fan of the more accurate speaker simulation I would check this one out for sure! Great video guys! Cheers
Where this product is cool, is that you can bring a studio mic'd sound to a live gig. You can't use the same mic's live that you can in a studio - live you have to close mic with not much choice of mic, sm57 and that's about it.
I don't agree with the price but that was in my opinion the best tones to ever come out of that room
...and here I was thinking 'cone cry' was when my 3 year old dropped her ice cream.
David Woods i'm dead...lol
Ha!
As far as cone cry goes, never heard of it before and don't know what I'm looking for quite yet aurally. But nonetheless I could hear something happening while you guys were playing with it. So I concede it is a thing and it didn't sound bad!
Concerning how you guys capture your audio performances, I say just do what you do best and do a video comparison. Make it completely blind for us and see if we truly care.
So (now you mention it) shouldn't amp manufacturers write the labels on the back upside down as well as the right way up? or don't they ever use the things when standing in front of them like everyone else does?
Would have been much better had you used the Marshall straight away and if Lee didn't continually talk over the rep, IMHO. Fantastic box, I will absolutely be purchasing one soon. No need to compare with other load boxs, this is light years ahead of the others...
I would love that, Captain.
How do you use Vibro king with OX? It works at 2 ohms and the OX at 4 ohms minimum. Do you have an impedance matcher?
beautiful intro
Hmmm I'm intrigued. Having a two notes torpedo live myself, I would be very interested in a comparison to see just how different it is. And the pros and cons of each
Okay. I have a 200 watt marshall major. would i be able to use this with it?
Can we keep on doing it old school with the mics please Captain. If anything, I want to hear more room mics in future vids. As good as this thing sounds I’m never going to get one so want to hear amps in the future uncoloured.
Cheers
So considering the fact that there are 2 line outs, does that mean when sending the signal into say, a Protools session, you can send each "mic sim" into it's own channel to do further work?
I´ll buy one as soon as they are out :)
What guys dont think about is what you get inte the price.
Sure it will be a good attenuator.
But the money is in the Digital world..
I dont know many homerecorders that got all these mics, cabs and the most important a big studio recording ROOM.
Sure you can stick an SM57 at your cab but half the sound is gone. The Room is so so important..you just dont need space but you got to give it an acoustic treatmeant aswell.
Just to buy a Royer R-121 is 1300$..
And with Universal audio´s software and modeling history I am pretty sure it will be very accurate to the real thing. even if it´s just 80% of the real thing it´s still worth it. Though I think it´s so close that know one will no the difference..
And to get all that in one compact box, sure sold me one :)
Though im satisfied with what im seeing/hearing now, I guess that they will update with mics, cabs, room and/or other features, maybe ability to run wet/dry rigs, blend two cabs together.... who knows..
OK, here is a really stupid question. Can you take a line out from a solid-state amplifier and run it through the ox to use it’s speaker cabinet simulation and reverb, delay, etc.?
Fizz.... or no fizz at the really low settings (live)?
Question, I have a vibroking and I love the idea of the OX.. but I was under the impression my VK had a 2ohm, cab. I could be wrong.. how are you running this one? Are the 20th anniversaries a different ohm?
Well that sounds fantastic. But does it djent? I mean is it OK for high gain stuff like a Peavey 6505 mh? TwoNotes seem to be a bunch of metal heads so live/studio seem great for that genre, is this targeting more blues sounds?
Also, what is the latency for all the modelling? IIRC the live was 3ms and the Studio was 3-5ms depending on mode. I do find it's always easier to play in time with lower latency.
so when you go to the digital part and turn off your amp speaker, can you still use the amp controls to shape the sound? Im thinking you would have to because there are only speaker options inside the digital part. thanks.
I have a Vibro-King and I’m almost 100% on getting an OX for it knowing it can be done here, but...
My question is how is it possible, because as far as I’ve read the OX doesn’t have a 2ohm setting and the VK has a 2ohm speaker box..
Can someone chime in here and explain how I’m either wrong about the ox’s settings or maybe how it doesn’t matter? (I’m not that savvy with ohm stuff, I play amps but don’t really know much about how they work).
Cheers!
Did you ever get any sort of answer to this question? I'm wondering the same thing. I would love to use the Ox Box with my VK, but I'm not going to mess around with ohms matchers and other madness to make it happen.
01:00 What it ISN'T is a CabClone... Right, Cap'n?
Hello Andertons, i have a question. i still hear a faint noise through the guitar speaker when the speaker level on the ox box is set to 0 . is this normal or is it an issiue. there are some pages who try to answer that question but no one seems to know exactly.
thx a lot for answering.
I Have triaxis with a 2:90 simulclass amp. It sounds legendary but it'a too loud all of the time. Is this the solution to my crisis or should I just buy a much quieter amp??
Where is Tore ?? When do you bring us quality amp in a pedal to plug in the mix desk (as well computer or Apollo box) ?? I feel it coming. It got to be impeccable though. If possible, make it all-analog.
Stupid question but.. When changing the speaker cab setting does the sound still come out of the amp speaker? Or is it just coming through the headphones or ipad?
I think for amp/cab demos, I would prefer to hear the sound of the actual gear mic'ed up. This piece of kit is certainly impressive, but in a way it does too much to make a "nice" sound, great for recording or live, but lets just hear the gear with minimal processing.
For effects and guitars, go for it.
Whats happend if you forgot to switch on the ox, is there a bypass mode?
Do I not need a head with this? Just a cab and the OX?
yes, please use ox box! i want one!
Hello! Just one question. So on the stage i also dont need to microphone my amp? I can hear my speaker for “monitor” and same time send the processed sound to the mixer? Thank you!
That’s what I want to know too
hey guys, if for example my tube head has 2 8 ohm speaker outs i can use one to go to the UA OX and the other to a real cab?
I´ve experienced the cone cry twice. Result: 5 Minutes after this i had 2 rotten speakers. :)
Do a Two Notes Torpedo vs. OX Shootout!
Anybody noticed how it adds some kind of a fuzz to the guitar signal?
for Metal? or just the 70's and hard rock tone on this vid?
which Ipad App is this which let you control the UAD plugin?
Missed a marketing opportunity there...Ox is clearly a beast of burden :-)
The Two Notes Torpedo Reload is basically exactly the same thing aside from the "Dynamic speaker emulation" thing he was taking about (which I'm not sure is total bull or not). It costs less half as much money, still a lot but not that crazy and comes with so many options, like 25 free cabs and mics as well as like 50 more you can buy from the store at pretty reasonable cost. ON TOP OF THAT you can use any impulse response available from other companies if you prefer, I don't think Universal Audio will let you do that.
IMHO The Two Notes Reload is just a superior product, in terms of price, size and functionality, rated to 150 watts. Maybe the user interface isn't as "fancy" but it's damn well designed and easier to understand than any I've used anywhere... on par with Positive Grid's interface. If that isn't enough the Reload can do DI into your soundcard, reamping your takes for tweaking, completely silent recording or reactive load attenuation.
The OX seems like a good product but I think it's just a copy of the Reload for more than twice as much money... More money than is accessible to the regular gear-head whereas a regular guy can afford the Reload and get the same results with MUCH more freedom. I mean they don't let you move the mics at all? and I doubt they'll let you use separate impulses...
No disrespect to Capt. Anderton or the store.
Of course this is just my 2 cents...
The Two Notes isn’t an attenuator, it’s just a dummy load. And we all thought the speaker emulation on the OX was the best we’d ever heard. However, we do think the Two Notes stuff is excellent too!
If you are going to compare the OX to the Two Notes stuff you have to look at the Studio, which cost more than the OX will as far as I know.
Interesting... but I believe you are mistaken. On the website and in the documentation I received with the product says it's an "active reactive load" circuitry. I've had passive attenuators which are just a series of resistors and this blows them away completely. In my experience with the Reload and after watching the video, these two products are exactly the same in most regards. I believe in American products and mean no harm to this great company but I believe the Reload is the superior product.
www.two-notes.com/en/torpedo-reload
Point taken, I do however think that the Reload does the same things as the OX. The studio cannot "attenuate" or load down the output signal of the amp between the power section and speaker cabinet. That's why I used it in comparison.
The Reload doesn't have speaker sim, which is a massive difference. You have to do it within your computer with the WoS plugin (or any other speaker sim plugin). To get closer to the OX, you must add a Torpedo CAB (just speaker sim, headphones out...), and there you're very close to the OX price. The Reload is particularly great for reamping (the OX can't do it apparently), but the Reload + CAB combo doesn't have any digital output (which the OX has). The Torpedo Studio is a great alternative, but more expensive than the OX, with a couple of pros and cons compared to the OX. Honestly, all great units, but don't think we can objectively say one is "far superior" to the others. It's just about what you need.
i am looking at buying an ox box but i am a little put off as it looks like the app is only for i pad or mac, is this true??
so what your saying is ....if you buy an old marshall head and old cab with original speakers and this ox dubriflop, all for an approximated cost of over £5,000, you can practice at home with it.... whats wrong with thr10 ?
Can you use the ox with a vox ac4?
Would it work for bass amps?
The box sounds gritty and midrange anemic but the room software sounds quite good.
I'd always prefer your demos to be from a cab and mic in answer to your question.
Does anyone knows is there’s a model only with the attenuator? The other stuff is interesting but not interested for now...
I want that silver Strat.
I wonder if David is made out of rubber. He always seems to have issues with getting the touch screen to respond to his touch. :)
it's called "OX" because it can carry "the load."
A beast of burden like Paul Bunyan's ox, "Babe, the Blue Ox ." Also, because of their name, Aux! A double entendre...C'mon!
Where’s the cone cry video?
Trust me, I’m impressed. Sorry haters.
+CaptAnderton Cone cry and cone breakup are NOT the same thing.
I'm fascinated by stuff like this and the two notes stuff, how to avoid dodgy soundmen and their placement choices/lack of any idea and how to achieve consistent tone. Brilliant. However, do they work for clean sounds? These applications are always demoed towards gainy sounds, at low volume. HELP, GOOD PEOPLE :) xx
"It's so quiet, it's like playing with a 10 watt amp".....LOL! Come over to my house and jam on my 4 watt Vox AC4C1 with an eternity love pedal pushing the front end and tell me how quiet you think it is? Most people can't stand to be in the same room with it.
Agreed, power level is not a good indication of volume. I have a 50 watt amp that can attenuate all the way down to 7 watts, and even at that setting, anything past 1.5 on the master volume is uncomfortable to be near.
The bottom line with tube amps is they only sound good when the tubes are loaded/start to break up, which only happens at high volumes. That being said, if you get a low wattage amp (like mine scaled down or yours) and a decent quality reactive load (not passive load), you can bring its signal down to line level pretty easily and play it at a comfortable bedroom level through headphones or monitor speakers.
this gets a 100 watt marshall quieter than the quarter watt mode on a actv 4 but without the compressed squashed sound, I've heard it in person, blown away, but whatever
why no support for android and windows ?
doesn't the app only work for IOS and apple products? What the hell were they thinking?
Cone-Cry? Just make it sound like a speaker (less quack) and perhaps give us more 4x12-type cabinets and speaker selections in general, but Cone-Cry? Umm, I can live without that, since Ive never heard it anyway.
the Captain's Les Paul sounded like utter shite at the end of this video...
Ive seen/heard another review on sweetwater and that strat aloways flubs out on the bottom strings. My problem is that I dont know if its the strat or the OX Box doing that. But its definetly a negative and so is the hum that comes of the strat. I think you would have a much better chance of selling these boxes if you eliminated these negatives. Im probably going to buy one anyway but the first thing Ill be checking is if the low end flubs out and if its inherently noisy. If you are trying to sell something then you want it to sound as good as possible and using that noisy strat with a strange flubby low end is killing your chances. Your playing is very nice though. Im not saying this to be critical. Im saying it because before I purchase one of these, I would like to know what is causeing the noise and flub.
this video is the real proof between a person who knows how to sell and who doesn't know anything! Capitan explain the product in less than 30 seconds when the UA sales guy doesn't know even the name! shame!
You took the words right out of my mouth man....this video felt extremely awkward..David from UAD had ZERO enthusiasm...cool product though.
That is the difference between an engineering mentality and a sales mentality. Obviously the UA rep knew how to use the product, but he has the "so cool because engineering" mentality, rather than the "so cool, because features" mentality. What works best to make a product is not exactly the same as what works best to sell it. There is some overlap, but for the most part they are two separate skill sets.
He’s acting like it’s the first time anyone ever asked him about the name!
You don't have to be too enthusiastic with a stella sounding product that speaks for itself,no hard sale required.
There seemed to be some unpleasantness in the high end from both the Fender and Marshall, and I listen to videos on here all the time, many with great guitar sounds.
It's an awful lot of money. Three times as expensive as an ''Iron Man reactive load'' for example, although this does do more. A two notes torpedo live is half the price too. As an outsider to silent recording - it seems to hitch on the digital modelling being preferable to impulse response. For the oldies like me, this feels a little bit like ''Betamax'' - technically better, but soon to be redundant tech.
Expensive, but impressive. Physical modelling is the next step in audio, it is only recently that the DSP power needed to do it in real time has become cheap enough. We will start to see lower cost options from others before long.
Unfortunately, the reactive load part won't get cheaper any time soon, good quality high power electronics always costs real money.
Check out all the specs of the OX please. It is so much more. The iron man will only take a load of 30w! This will take any load.. Also the Torpedo live is not an attenuator... So you will need the Torpedo Reload Reactive-Active Attenuator as well as the Torpedo live as well to do what the OX does.. This means this is not an unreasonable price we think...
I think it’s competitive. Torpedo live is $1000 and it’s cheaper than a torpedo studio right? All out of my price range:)
thank you. I find recording tech bewildering.
Good to know. There is always a reason things are more expensive, and knowing nothing about these other load boxes that others are claiming are so much cheaper that do the same thing I just didn't know.
I found the speaker models kinda harsh to in the upper midrange and treble and lacked a lot of life.
Big On your personal unit or based on the RUclips video?
Based of the video
God I hate when people play guitar and just stare at me. I feel bad for the Lee lol you can just see how uncomfortable he is
I was litterally just about to comment the same thing... then saw yours. Completely agree! Such an awkward and rude thing to do to be honest.
Simple question,Can you just use headphones without an amp ?,
Seems to work well enough but it's still a little "fizzy" for my taste
Was it just me or did this thing seem to have a lot of hum going on with it? That is surprising for something touted for silent recording.
I heard that too but he's playing a single coil guitar through a cranked amp. I wouldn't expect it to be silent.
Lee: Why is it call an OX?
David: Why is it call an OX... I don't know.
I'm off.
Did you hear it? :-)
Jesus dude, really? He said it was just a cool name. And obviously the word "Ox" sounds like "Aux" so someone called it that. Does it really matter that the guy doesn't know the exact reason they came up with that name? smh
It's obvious it's called "OX" because it can carry "the load".
Beast of burden
@@deejschmidt Exactly! I was about to type the exact thing until I saw that you'd already nailed it. I was just going to add the example of Babe the Blue Ox of Paul Bunyan's.
Pre Pete lessons Captain 😂