TRANSFERENCE NEUROSIS: “Working in the Transference”

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • Resistance to transference and the transference resistance. Step one: evoking the transference neurosis. Step two: analyzing and deconstructing the transference neurosis.

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  • @stephenstephen1505
    @stephenstephen1505 Год назад +2

    I wish I had been privy to this excellent teaching when I studied psychodynamic therapy many years ago. Thank you

  • @jamesabraham7903
    @jamesabraham7903 4 года назад +4

    Thank you yet again Professor. "Stop turning today into yesterday"... another example of how an existentialist conception of temporality informs psychoanalytic thinking. Relatedly, the move toward health whereby the analysand stops turning people in the present into people from the past can also be framed in terms of a moral obligation. Namely, we have a moral obligation to see those in our lives--truly to see them and appreciate them--for who they are and not for who we need them to be in order to work out the difficulties of past relationships.

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  4 года назад +2

      James Abraham: Right on!

    • @jamesabraham7903
      @jamesabraham7903 4 года назад

      I should also have said that that moral obligation can also be framed existentially, i.e., in the injunction against objectification of the other. Conversely, the psychoanalytic health of the individual can be understood as a desire to move toward authenticity, freedom, etc and away from self-objectification. Part of the false morality of the super-ego derives from the fact that it idealizes in a very rigid, objectifying manner. It presents a time-locked and impoverished version of the self tends to produce either full-on shame or sneering arrogance. Both of these poles are expressions of extreme aggression.

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  4 года назад +1

      James Abraham Yes

  • @psykoanalytikern
    @psykoanalytikern 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for this lecture. The abuse of transference has definetly infected large parts of the addiction rehab here in Sweden. Probably because many of these addiction therapists has their own (barely treated) problems.

    • @kirstinstrand6292
      @kirstinstrand6292 6 месяцев назад

      Yes! When I read that psychoanalysts have had 6 months of pre-training analysis, I freak out! No way can a full analysis touch anyone's neurosis, or god forbid, someone's psychosis or worse!

  • @raquelchapdelaine2271
    @raquelchapdelaine2271 3 года назад

    Excellent reflection! Thank you, Don!

  • @sof2300
    @sof2300 4 года назад +2

    Thank you Don, for all the content you put online. I am listening to all your lectures, it helps a lot in here.

  • @Alexacirc
    @Alexacirc 4 года назад +2

    Such a well articulated video.

  • @TheSqrpshr
    @TheSqrpshr 4 года назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @ingurzimmermann2024
    @ingurzimmermann2024 4 года назад +2

    This reminded me of the step away from more orthodox psychoanalysis Otto Rank did. Moving away from mere transference interpretation, taking a more active role, seems tot me like moving towards that greatly neglected topic of the will.
    I like that.
    In my opinion, over the years psychoanalysts have not really moved beyond the core assumption of Freud, that man is really only determined by his inner biological Triebe. It’s been sitting there all those years, but rarely has any psychoanalyist mentioned the will as something that is more primary than affect.
    Referring to transference as resistance, and as something to be actively analyzed, comes across as working with the will.
    What’s you view on this, I wonder?

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  4 года назад +4

      Imre, yes, you are right. I don’t often think of Will in Rank’s or Rollo May’s sense, but I have always believed in free will and embraced aspects of existentialism. I do believe that psychotherapy and psychoanalysis can and should enhance the person’s freedom. Getting free of neurotic repetition compulsion enables us to shape our lives and according to our will. at a certain point patients can’t begin to refuse old patterns, all reactions, and decide to act differently.

  • @PollisDrake
    @PollisDrake 4 года назад

    Right on.

  • @seymourtompkins
    @seymourtompkins 2 года назад +1

    great video, very helpful. just for the sake of clarity, if transf. occurs outside the consulting room, it's not really termed "transference" (i think re-enactment or recapitulation or even repetition compulsion would be more accurate).

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  2 года назад

      Transference is transference, in psychoanalysis or in regular life. Why call it by another name?

    • @seymourtompkins
      @seymourtompkins 2 года назад

      @@doncarveth With all due respect, because they are not equivalent.
      Example: Transference and Projection. Very similar, but not regarded as equivalent; transference is widely considered a special case (instance) of the broader universal phenomenon of projection.

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  2 года назад

      @@seymourtompkins That is quite confused. I come into my analysts office convinced he is angry when [for the sake of argument] he is not. If it is transference I have confused him with, say, my angry father. That is a displacement. But if it is projection, I am unconsciously angry myself. Transference and projection are two very different phenomena.

    • @seymourtompkins
      @seymourtompkins 2 года назад

      @@doncarveth Edited for clarity.
      See the necessity of clarifying terms (my first point) ?
      Regarding your example, yes it would be confusing if thinking of projection only in the classical sense (in your example. as an intrapsychic defense aimed at warding off awareness of one's own aggressive impulses). However, some have described projection in much broader terms (e.g., as a general, universal mental function that is not necessarily defensive or pathological and that may involve projecting parts of self at times, parts of objects at other times.

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 6 месяцев назад

    I remember when my first analyst told me that I was asexual. (Never mind that he was 3 inches shorter than I, overweight by 60 pounds and very uninteresting to me in physique and personality.) I then went to a party and met a Buddhist ironworker with whom I had a two year relationship until I realized I did not love him, and he wanted a partner who wanted to pursue Buddhist studies with him. Such is life. I'm sure Freud believed that all all analysts would be desired by their patients.

  • @gabrielakarl3859
    @gabrielakarl3859 Год назад +1

    Very well explained! I developed erotic transference and ended up seducing the therapist. I became obsessed with him and shunned my husband....it all went sideways really fast...ugh! I had to do most of the work myself and figure myself out for the most part. I thing the therapist was a dismissive avoidant with narcissist traits in complete denial of his shortcomings. So this was a good case of countertransference as well.

  • @iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart
    @iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart 24 дня назад

    Hm..How do you work it through "emotionally"? I do rationally understand it, and have discussed it but it still doesn't go away...Why does it persist anyways?

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  23 дня назад +1

      @@iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart there is a deep longing for something felt to have been missed, so one keeps trying to get it rather than facing the pain of the loss and mourning the loss. Mourning is very painful and often takes a long time. The analyst is there to help with the mourning, not to make it unnecessary.

    • @doncarveth
      @doncarveth  23 дня назад +1

      One has to learn that one can survive this loss.

    • @iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart
      @iloveyoufromthedepthofmyheart 23 дня назад

      @@doncarveth thank you, your response means a lot to me. I sobbed even while reading it, so there must be something to it.

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 6 месяцев назад

    What Carveth speaks of regarding the obscurity of the analyst is appropriate if their only role is to analyze the patient's unconscious content of the patient's dreams.
    It is possible to train the analysand to continue the self examination on his/her own so that the cost can be lessened, yet self-work can be continued.
    All the transference issues Carver discusses are common in psychoanalysis. 🤣
    I don't intend to not take these transference problems seriously, but I know exactly how these complex issues occur. And having been there, done that - I can see the humor and tragedy in it all. These are real life issues of Transference that analysts must be prepared for via their 6 month personal analysis! 😅🤣😂🙃😇🤕🥵😵🥸🥸😎🥳
    Good Luck. 😍