I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. If anyone is near Dave(s) the best performance upgrade for you (each individual) and your bike that is also the cheapest way to improve your experience and abilities is hand over a few bucks to DMT and you will be amazed at what you will get in return... Simply awesome! Keep up the great work gents. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@chrishart8548 Motorbikes suspensions are all adjustable... Name one motorbike that doesn’t (at the very least, mechanical pre-load settings in the rear). Plus springs can be changed, fork oil weight (cheap), tyre pressures, the list goes on. Unless you are talking about one from the start of last century? Check out The video done a while back on the early MT-07. No “adjustment” at the front however with a few simple changes you can act they the bike to handle to an acceptable level. From the factory they are.... not so good. I can speak first hand one that one as I’ve done the same work on a few friends bikes. Night and day difference. Good luck.
@@marcusgeorge1825 f800gs has no adjustment on the front i wouldn't say changing spring is an adjustment. More like an alteration. On the rear I have pre load but I'm only going to set correct sag then that's it. More pre load than you need is horrible. More or less locks out the suspension so it's just solid.
@@chrishart8548 All good then. That’s a nice all round, mid-size and spec adventure bike. What year is yours? As if memory serves me correctly from around 2014 doesn’t it also (along with adjustable rear pre-load) come with adjustable rear rebound settings? With an option for fully automatic suspension settings? I must admit that in 40 years of riding that I’ve never really gotten into the adventure market or anything that is ok at everything, just doesn’t excel at the same time at anything. For me, if I want something for the track then I’ll use one of my race bikes, if I want to properly tackle off-road then I’ll use a dirt bike and if I want something comfortable for the road then I’ll use a naked or sports tourer for that. Horses for courses I guess. At the end of the day all I was saying that the knowledge that men like both Dave’s have is hard to come by. The payoff for the help provided by DMT (or any person(s) of that caliber) is money well spent. For example, the person who first got me into racing in the early 90’s, was not only an ex Australian champion (who also became my first race team manager), he also had the same level of knowledge and experience that DMT have. So my learning curve was steep. These days I pass on the same basic principles I was taught in bike setups, for different riders wanting their own bikes to “behave better” and am still learning more everyday. It really doesn’t matter what you ride or what your capabilities are at there is always room for improvement. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@marcusgeorge1825 it's a 2014 it has ESA so I can select comfort or sport. And normal. But that certainly is not having a night vs day on the overall effect of the bikes set up. I find most roads are so badly maintained I'm happy having 9.1 " suspension travel 21" front wire wheel . It has the dynamic pack and comfort pack. I also have a honda XR250R 1996 model. Dry sump oil in frame model.
One thing I fail to understand is if the suspension travels too far to the bottom during riding is it the preload that I should increase to + with more clicks or is it the compression damping that I should increase towards +?
Set compression at 50% of the total range. Preload is then used to get to 15-20mm of full travel. Once in that zone, compression can be manipulated as needed for trail braking. As you improve your skills, preload and compression need to be revisited to sustain optimal travel.
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. You mean the average 21st Century human? ruclips.net/video/BsbS3z8vLU0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/6H1tKQoan9w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/7VlGAZrTyWs/видео.html
If you are only using 20% of your suspension the bike is beating you up. If you use 100% of your suspension you are riding with a very high risk of loosing control over big bumps. Assess fork and shock travel used asap.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. If anyone is near Dave(s) the best performance upgrade for you (each individual) and your bike that is also the cheapest way to improve your experience and abilities is hand over a few bucks to DMT and you will be amazed at what you will get in return... Simply awesome! Keep up the great work gents. 👍😎🇦🇺
Unless your suspension has no adjustments
@@chrishart8548 Motorbikes suspensions are all adjustable... Name one motorbike that doesn’t (at the very least, mechanical pre-load settings in the rear). Plus springs can be changed, fork oil weight (cheap), tyre pressures, the list goes on. Unless you are talking about one from the start of last century? Check out The video done a while back on the early MT-07. No “adjustment” at the front however with a few simple changes you can act they the bike to handle to an acceptable level. From the factory they are.... not so good. I can speak first hand one that one as I’ve done the same work on a few friends bikes. Night and day difference. Good luck.
@@marcusgeorge1825 f800gs has no adjustment on the front i wouldn't say changing spring is an adjustment. More like an alteration. On the rear I have pre load but I'm only going to set correct sag then that's it. More pre load than you need is horrible. More or less locks out the suspension so it's just solid.
@@chrishart8548 All good then. That’s a nice all round, mid-size and spec adventure bike. What year is yours? As if memory serves me correctly from around 2014 doesn’t it also (along with adjustable rear pre-load) come with adjustable rear rebound settings? With an option for fully automatic suspension settings? I must admit that in 40 years of riding that I’ve never really gotten into the adventure market or anything that is ok at everything, just doesn’t excel at the same time at anything. For me, if I want something for the track then I’ll use one of my race bikes, if I want to properly tackle off-road then I’ll use a dirt bike and if I want something comfortable for the road then I’ll use a naked or sports tourer for that. Horses for courses I guess. At the end of the day all I was saying that the knowledge that men like both Dave’s have is hard to come by. The payoff for the help provided by DMT (or any person(s) of that caliber) is money well spent. For example, the person who first got me into racing in the early 90’s, was not only an ex Australian champion (who also became my first race team manager), he also had the same level of knowledge and experience that DMT have. So my learning curve was steep. These days I pass on the same basic principles I was taught in bike setups, for different riders wanting their own bikes to “behave better” and am still learning more everyday. It really doesn’t matter what you ride or what your capabilities are at there is always room for improvement. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@marcusgeorge1825 it's a 2014 it has ESA so I can select comfort or sport. And normal. But that certainly is not having a night vs day on the overall effect of the bikes set up. I find most roads are so badly maintained I'm happy having 9.1 " suspension travel 21" front wire wheel . It has the dynamic pack and comfort pack. I also have a honda XR250R 1996 model. Dry sump oil in frame model.
BMW S1000rr
I keep getting drawn back to this series of bikes 🥰
When I get my new bike I'm coming to see you 🍻✌️
Thanks Dave, you should compare 75kg against 120kg riders. :)
Try these
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@@catalystreactionsbw Great! Thanks, I missed those vids.
stiffer than your weight spring results front thread tear/ too soft for weifht then the rear thread tear out. i think this is right.
Respect ❤️
2:50 how hot is too hot? And what's proper hot? Depends on make of tire?
Master Dave! Can u please do a 130 lb video for 2020 street triple 765 rs?
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. The woman in this video is in that weight range. ruclips.net/video/Iyr9U5dZzyc/видео.html
Hi Dave, are you going to be at thunderhill on april 19th w funtrackdayz ?
One thing I fail to understand is if the suspension travels too far to the bottom during riding is it the preload that I should increase to + with more clicks or is it the compression damping that I should increase towards +?
Set compression at 50% of the total range. Preload is then used to get to 15-20mm of full travel. Once in that zone, compression can be manipulated as needed for trail braking. As you improve your skills, preload and compression need to be revisited to sustain optimal travel.
Hi Dave, why not drop the frond end of the first BMW for more fork travel? A student is confused! ;D
That is possible as a test if it is clear that doing this will not be disruptive to the chassis or create adverse handling.
How about heavy chonker suspension setup? :)
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. You mean the average 21st Century human?
ruclips.net/video/BsbS3z8vLU0/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/6H1tKQoan9w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/7VlGAZrTyWs/видео.html
Wait so I am kinda confused. We should get our bike suspended specifically for our weight? Does it really matter that much?
If you are only using 20% of your suspension the bike is beating you up. If you use 100% of your suspension you are riding with a very high risk of loosing control over big bumps. Assess fork and shock travel used asap.
Not that serious but yes its personal opinion for more serious riders and comfort. Most ppl never touch it.
44, lol
Teeth
Didn't learn nothing about flyweight setup
How flyweight? 120 pounds?