I upgraded from the Ultra to the 3 about a year or two ago, and the things you noted were the things I noticed right away. Stronger/more useable low end and a drastic change in feel. Good vid as per usual.
excellent..... Nailed exactly some of my questions ... ! now I'd like to see the same test between FM3 and FM9. I 'm surprised these sound as close as they are! These comparisons can't be judged on your phone. I appreciate your comparisons though I not a metal player this illuminates some of the picture for my ears Thank you.
Hey man cool video! All I can hear from this is that the FM3 kind of has more depth in the sounds like its higher quality but overall both are usable. Somewhat unrelated but a friend of mine has an FM3 and he is having issues with passing the wet sound (amped and cabed) from the FM3 to Reaper. He is using the FM3 as an audio interface so he passes the sound through the USB. Is that okay or should he do it some other way? He sent me some audio clips and it sounds like the signal is kind of low quality. His guitar input isn`t clipping in the FM3. He claims that the sound in reaper sounds like it lacks some bass that he can hear in his headphones while playing. Thank you in advance!
Hugely enjoy your content mate! I am thinking of beginning with building a small mixing space at Home. Could you see yourself doing a video about room treatment? Ive seen a lot of diy bass traps videos but nobody seems to do a deep(ish) dive on where to place what kind of treatment in a room and how much treatment you need for what size of space.
I wasn't crazy about the first couple singles, but I've listened to Gordian Naught at least once a day since it released - A+. I've not listened to a single demo of the Line 6 Plugins, and do not plan to even try them out.
100% agreed There's actually nothing to review sonically since there's nothing new (new models and cab sim are nothing mindblowing, the only question is why tf aren't they in helix yet), however, I think there's is an interesting analysis to do. The market is pretty much shifting from all in one versatile solution to lazer focused one trick poneys, and the success of ndsp has something to do with it. And I find sad that so much guitarists are just aclaiming a repackaged version of something they already have. Just sharing my thoughts.
This looks like something I definitely dont need, im not even a professional guitar player, but I am definitely going to be buying next week. (FM3).... I keep finding myself trying to get as close as I can to Fade To Black tone. Wish me luck
is it wierd that im starting to prefer the less natural sound? ive been called wierd for saying that i love the kind of "digital" sound of the Ax8 over the more real sounding fm9.
I had an Axe II with mfc101 and sold it for a little more than what i paid for it which completely paid for my FM3 (that never happens right,wtf?) Great video. I'm always seeing this question on TGP, should I sell my AxeII for an Axe III product. Now we have somewhere to point these people.
cool a foo fighters riff followed my no remorse metallica, reminds me of a foo fighters concert i just watched where Dave started playing no remorse riff before jumping into This is a call @ bizzare festival in 2000. That being said I actaully liked the 8 better when i listened closely, sounded a bit brighter where the fm3 sounded a little too boxy, kind of like my vst plugins now that i think of it, when i turn off the supersampling i dont get a worse quality tone i get a more brighter rawer tone to my ear, maybe thats whats going on, the newer version maybe supersampled more leaving the older to sound brighter or more clear even tho it might be technically lesser quality? Not sure if thats goins on there.
24:42 I also noticed that FM3 with Cygnus has a dark sound, dull, too midrange. It's like he's covered with a blanket. Axe-FX II sounds bright and open. You say you can use the equalizer in FM3 to make the amplifier open and bright. Please make a video about it. Show how to make FM3 amplifiers bright, poisonous, biting like in Axe-FX II.
I have noticed with the latest updates my axe fx 3 really does seem to replace me using my real amps more and more. I've started to make custom impulses alot to get even closer. I am very happy with my product and don't event plan on getting any upgrades unless it's some world shaking changes
The tones Good on both, however the AX8 has more presence/treble, to my ear, in every clip and i prefer brighter sounds more often than not. There's so much difference that you could pan FM3 left and AX8 right and get a really good blend of tones for double tracking. Another feather in the AX8's cap is that many (but not all) of the modern high gain examples *sounded like they felt* more like real amps due to a more prevalent bass response. The FM3 seems to sound more "real" whereas the AX8 sounds like a mixed guitar tone If the FM3/FM9/AXEIII didn't have features i want, and more importantly if used "last gen" gear didn't cost the same as the new stuff, i'd be saving for an AxeFXII or AX8 Also, i really hate to be the bearer of nitpicks, but it seems that aliasing issue you had in the Mercurial Ampbox video is back. 11:45, 15:09, and especially 15:52 are hit by this. I don't know if it's your screen recorder, your DAW, your NLE, RUclips, or some combination of them all, but SOMETHING isn't happy and it really does sound like a bitrate mismatch with the way it just murders treble and air frequencies.
Hey, long time follower here, I have to say your video sound quality has been increasing and it's now pretty good, but the sound demos still sound like there is a bitcrusher on them. Why?
I’m curious why you ended up with an FM3 after mentioning how much you disliked it compared to the AX8, and didn’t end up with the FM9? I unfollowed you after seeing that because our opinions differed.
Its night and day which I didnt expect I thought that axe 2 had a decent sound but it sounds like the competion mouer ,hotone, quad cortex etc harsh digital innacurate flat. Which makes me wonder how good axe 3 really is compared to a tube amp what if axe 4 comes out and axe 3 will sound like cheap chinese garbage compared to that
48:25 is a fantastic perspective on everything.
Leon, in terms of tone. which one is better? you know, you being the more experienced guy with fractals.
I'll probably never afford either unit, but I'll listen to you talk about them for 51 minutes lol
Never say never my friend !! Be positive and work for it !!
I agree with you Ryan is smart dude very informative and I’ll never be able to afford one but I still watch this channel and Leon Todd’s every day 🤟🏻
I said the same thing a long time ago. But a good friend helped me. Today I have the AX8 and a Jackson SL2H. (credit helps a lot too)
I'm glad I still have my AX8
Another masterpiece demo. Great stuff as always.
I want an FM9 now haha. Cheers
How do you get the "fizz" out of the AX8 eg inears its sounds fizzy
Sold my AX8 and MkII and just went with the FM3. It sounded great to me and it's still "current" Fractal.
I upgraded from the Ultra to the 3 about a year or two ago, and the things you noted were the things I noticed right away. Stronger/more useable low end and a drastic change in feel. Good vid as per usual.
Thanks for the insights, still trying to understand these units, etc...🎸👍🏼😊
Planning on buying an ax8 this christmas.
excellent..... Nailed exactly some of my questions ... ! now I'd like to see the same test between FM3 and FM9.
I 'm surprised these sound as close as they are! These comparisons can't be judged on your phone. I appreciate your comparisons though I not a metal player this illuminates some of the picture for my ears Thank you.
Ah man I love your honesty. This video really does help. Thanks !!!
I got so lucky to have an fm9. happened to be online right at release and hopped on the waitlist 3min in.
random question but, what font type are you using for your company name? thanks!
It looks like the FM3 uses 10% more of CPU power than the AX8 all the time.
Is it because the AX8 has a more powerful CPU?
I just bought 1 ax8 for $650 on Market Place in great condition! I love it
Oh dude I gotta get a sub and some snacks for this!
Hey man cool video! All I can hear from this is that the FM3 kind of has more depth in the sounds like its higher quality but overall both are usable. Somewhat unrelated but a friend of mine has an FM3 and he is having issues with passing the wet sound (amped and cabed) from the FM3 to Reaper. He is using the FM3 as an audio interface so he passes the sound through the USB. Is that okay or should he do it some other way? He sent me some audio clips and it sounds like the signal is kind of low quality. His guitar input isn`t clipping in the FM3. He claims that the sound in reaper sounds like it lacks some bass that he can hear in his headphones while playing. Thank you in advance!
Hugely enjoy your content mate! I am thinking of beginning with building a small mixing space at Home. Could you see yourself doing a video about room treatment? Ive seen a lot of diy bass traps videos but nobody seems to do a deep(ish) dive on where to place what kind of treatment in a room and how much treatment you need for what size of space.
Thoughts on new AAL ? And new L6 plugins ? (totally unrelated)
I wasn't crazy about the first couple singles, but I've listened to Gordian Naught at least once a day since it released - A+.
I've not listened to a single demo of the Line 6 Plugins, and do not plan to even try them out.
100% agreed
There's actually nothing to review sonically since there's nothing new (new models and cab sim are nothing mindblowing, the only question is why tf aren't they in helix yet), however, I think there's is an interesting analysis to do. The market is pretty much shifting from all in one versatile solution to lazer focused one trick poneys, and the success of ndsp has something to do with it. And I find sad that so much guitarists are just aclaiming a repackaged version of something they already have.
Just sharing my thoughts.
Ax8 still sounds more authentic to me. Newer generations sound tighter but more processed.
I like the ax8 in these examples 😊
Treble Booster + Band Commander = Grunge Monster? Who would have thought?
This looks like something I definitely dont need, im not even a professional guitar player, but I am definitely going to be buying next week. (FM3).... I keep finding myself trying to get as close as I can to Fade To Black tone. Wish me luck
Buy a Kemper as well, while you're at it. You don't need it either, but who cares!?
@@milankotevski1663 i hear the kemper is shit. And i bought my fm3 that ive use for a total of 3 hours.
I would love to see you approach a keith merrow reading the bones tone
Looks like the AX8 holds its own pretty good against the FM3!
is it wierd that im starting to prefer the less natural sound? ive been called wierd for saying that i love the kind of "digital" sound of the Ax8 over the more real sounding fm9.
Currently tossing up between this plus the FC6 and the QC,
I had an Axe II with mfc101 and sold it for a little more than what i paid for it which completely paid for my FM3 (that never happens right,wtf?) Great video. I'm always seeing this question on TGP, should I sell my AxeII for an Axe III product. Now we have somewhere to point these people.
great thanks
cool a foo fighters riff followed my no remorse metallica, reminds me of a foo fighters concert i just watched where Dave started playing no remorse riff before jumping into This is a call @ bizzare festival in 2000. That being said I actaully liked the 8 better when i listened closely, sounded a bit brighter where the fm3 sounded a little too boxy, kind of like my vst plugins now that i think of it, when i turn off the supersampling i dont get a worse quality tone i get a more brighter rawer tone to my ear, maybe thats whats going on, the newer version maybe supersampled more leaving the older to sound brighter or more clear even tho it might be technically lesser quality? Not sure if thats goins on there.
24:42
I also noticed that FM3 with Cygnus has a dark sound, dull, too midrange. It's like he's covered with a blanket. Axe-FX II sounds bright and open. You say you can use the equalizer in FM3 to make the amplifier open and bright. Please make a video about it. Show how to make FM3 amplifiers bright, poisonous, biting like in Axe-FX II.
I have noticed with the latest updates my axe fx 3 really does seem to replace me using my real amps more and more. I've started to make custom impulses alot to get even closer. I am very happy with my product and don't event plan on getting any upgrades unless it's some world shaking changes
It's really difficult to find a difference
I was so close to getting an ax8, went with a stomp instead. Good move
Do you mean the hx stomp?
sorry to break it to you but bad move lol
The tones Good on both, however the AX8 has more presence/treble, to my ear, in every clip and i prefer brighter sounds more often than not. There's so much difference that you could pan FM3 left and AX8 right and get a really good blend of tones for double tracking. Another feather in the AX8's cap is that many (but not all) of the modern high gain examples *sounded like they felt* more like real amps due to a more prevalent bass response. The FM3 seems to sound more "real" whereas the AX8 sounds like a mixed guitar tone
If the FM3/FM9/AXEIII didn't have features i want, and more importantly if used "last gen" gear didn't cost the same as the new stuff, i'd be saving for an AxeFXII or AX8
Also, i really hate to be the bearer of nitpicks, but it seems that aliasing issue you had in the Mercurial Ampbox video is back. 11:45, 15:09, and especially 15:52 are hit by this. I don't know if it's your screen recorder, your DAW, your NLE, RUclips, or some combination of them all, but SOMETHING isn't happy and it really does sound like a bitrate mismatch with the way it just murders treble and air frequencies.
Many people still prefer AX8 than FM3 as the sound from FM series isnt convincing
You should sell your presets.
I don't believe in monetizing presets I show in my videos - if you want any of these, just let me know and I'll upload them.
@@PlagueScytheStudios Thanks, I like the Brit 800 sound you got!
Hey, long time follower here, I have to say your video sound quality has been increasing and it's now pretty good, but the sound demos still sound like there is a bitcrusher on them. Why?
I’m curious why you ended up with an FM3 after mentioning how much you disliked it compared to the AX8, and didn’t end up with the FM9? I unfollowed you after seeing that because our opinions differed.
Its night and day which I didnt expect I thought that axe 2 had a decent sound but it sounds like the competion mouer ,hotone, quad cortex etc harsh digital innacurate flat. Which makes me wonder how good axe 3 really is compared to a tube amp what if axe 4 comes out and axe 3 will sound like cheap chinese garbage compared to that