@@joetacchino4470If they actually say that is why then that is just straight up ridiculous bullshit😂 but still anyone with their eyes working can clearly tell it's because of that pad to rest your wrist on, pushing the center console piece forward making no room for the cup holders anymore. They could of removed the charging pad and made room though... I like the wrist rest pad idea a lot personally but I wouldn't have it at the expense of cup holders either, especially because this car isn't even a manual so if you want to do the best performance driving you'd be using the paddle shifters and not the gear selector anyways. If anyone in the comments complaining about this can actually afford this car then that is truly great for you, get a bottled drink and put it in the door. It won't be G-series cup holders good but it'll work.
Not gonna lie, the last videos on this channel all featured cars with absolutely flawless paint jobs. This baby blue is absolutely gorgeous with the black wheels and black accents.
Ok, him talking at 14:05 while just being knee deep in the throttle is outright raw and insane.. I mean are you kidding me to a native I can see how it's normal but this is my first time ever seeing the Autobahn and WOW man you are crushing it...
@@haluk123456 Well, I ALSO own a 2023 M4 comp X-Drive, with no lightweight options, whatsoever, that came out at 1785 kg or 3940 lbs. Both videos are on my channel. The CS is 30kg lighter in total but it has CCBs and Carbon buckets.
I just realized something weird about the M4 CS sold in Germany. The Strut brace, driving assistant, automated tailgate, and heated steering wheel are all optional extras that we get over here in Canada and I presume the USA as standard.
I think it has to do with the speed limit. Think about it this way: here in Germany, if you switch lanes, YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST monitor the traffic besides (and more importantly) behind you because, more often than not, someone will come blastring trough with 250-300 km/h (155 - 185 miles an hour) and it's in your best interest to not get caught up in that kind of accident. When driving in countries with a speed limit, I see others switching lanes much more inattentively because everyone's (basically) going the same speed. Caught myself doing it as well after a while. So, in a weird way, I think the lack of a speed limit prevents a lot of accidents. If they do happen, though, they're more likely to be fatal.
An amazing car! The body rigidity is high, the stability at high speeds is incredible, and the power is outstanding. This car might rival the Porsche GT3.🏁
The steering is way different than my g87… if I turned my wheel back and forth like you did at the end of the video I would’ve flew right off the road lol.
On German-Sachsenring this "baby"-blue middle classed Top M4 CS as here showed; catched the Round-Time from the much expensiv and smaller Series-Street-Sport-Cars...Porsche 992 Turbo S and McLaren 765 .
Save yourself the money. Get a 2022 XDrive and change out the front wheel hubs for CS hubs. Make suspension tweaks as necessary. Intake, Dp, n tune . Load up all CS driving parameters to the car. Put better rubber on it. BAM!! You’ll be in for $80k with a 750AWHP monster vs $140k for this.
So in Europe, the yellow DRLs are yellow as parking lights? This goes completely against ECE laws as it clearly states parking lights in the front must be "white". Its not accepted by any European country to aftermarket yellow parking lights, but these cars can just hide behind being "type approved" for it, seems like car manufacturers can just give some money under the table for high ranking people in the EU and everything is fine and approved. Its the same with supercars, theyre exempt from the 74dB exhaust noise laws judging from how loud they are compared to other sports cars.
Front position/park lights are allowed to be of halogenic yellow hue. My Golf 6 had such positional lights, while daylight lights were standard halogenic, also with a faded yellow hue, compared to modern LED headlights. These daylight yellow lights on M4 CS should not be the same colour as yellow front blinkers.
It seems quite absurd that BMW is removing features like Active Cruise Control (ACC), especially on cars in this price range. ACC has nothing to do with performance or added weight, and even track-focused cars like the Cupra or RS3, which are designed as true "track weapons," come with ACC as standard. Why would BMW remove such a practical feature? It makes no sense, especially considering the high cost of these vehicles.
My take why carbon-ceramic breaks are not standard on M4 CS and should not be standard on any model. Carbon-ceramic discs are virtually eternal, but if a road pebble gets in between the breaking pads and the disc, you must throw that disc in a bin, where replacement costs 4000€. So, good luck driving your car with such breaks on a winter road, which was intentionally sprayed with gravel and salt. M-performance steel breaks will not overheat, but they will wear out. But a pair of discs cost 1000€ to replace. As I have been told by the people who track their cars quite often, you would need carbon-ceramic breaks only if you go on track every second week or more often.
well M4 sc is xDrive. vs M4 scl is rwd... from that alone there is a weight difference. So considering that xDrive cars weight almost 75kg heavier and weigh difference between CS vs CSL 50 kg that means they stripped more weight form body of CS. otherwise it would've been 75 kg difference. Alse can yuo please show next time full view of the car from bit far since wide lenses close doesn't show much of all silhouette of the car
@@eirikaustad7580 Not on US cars, I spec'd out a 2025 M4cs at the dealership and saw the options list directly from BMW. I have a printout and there is no option for a power trunk.
@@Yukon6255 Weird if I could afford this car it'd cost me 600$ for that These trunks are very light tho so easy to open and close, probably way faster that way too. A M4s trunk is also probably lighter than my 330 which is pretty light
@@eirikaustad7580 Only options are: - Choice of 4 paints; BSM & Brookyn Gray $650, Riviera Blue & Frozen Isle of Man Green $4,500. - Black or Gold rims (standard) - Steel brakes (standard) or CCB's $8,500 - color of brake calipers (price included) - choice of performance tires or ultra track tires That's it for options on US cars.
I don't promote stupid decisions and a power trunk ( on a lid lol, not even a touring ) without cup holders is dumb. I hope it's just an option that you can put in but the cs should be a predefined spec focused on competition spec.
Carbon Fiber hood cost $19k alone from BMW, Aluminum strut brace $3k, Gold CS Rims $4k, Carbon Fiber Front Splitter $3k, Carbon Fiber console at least $3k if not more, CS carbon buckets $4,500, increased the boost to get 550HP and transmission was remapped (these upgrades from factory and under warranty is at least $3k imo, otherwise you have to go aftermarket and you lose your warranty), CS tuned chassis and revised camber setup, recalibrated the adaptive dampers and the steering system, CS grill $600, CS DRL's, revised front intakes to improve cooling, CS steering wheel in Alcantara $500 , CS doorsills $300, exterior carbon package standard $4,500 and I might have missed some stuff. I had a 2023 M3 Competition xdrive for 2 years and now a m4cs and the difference between the 2 cars is huge just like this guy said in the video. The CS really is on another level and I honestly don't think I could ever go back to the competition model. The CS models are worth every penny imo. You really have to spend time in both cars to see how much better the CS is.
@@Yukon6255 All of that amounts to barely a difference in 0-100 and nurburgring times, people that buy this car are part of the problem allowing manufacturers to make slight differences and sell a car for thousands more for a badge and cosmetics. Worth every penny meanwhile a corvette z06 will annihilate it on track and straights for tens of thousnds of dollars less while looking better and sounding better...
BMW knows 99.99% of the people who buy these are not taking them to the track. So X drive makes more sense since it allows more practicality as far as bing able to drive the car year round and in wet conditions.
it's like a driving simulator or like playing forza motorsport ... this car might be well suited for the track where you need instant power and turn in but for a sunset drive... idk, I prefer an older, slower, mechanical-feeling car.
He probably addressed this before but can dude do a more thorough POV walkthrough of car before driving (a la Doug demuro w/o the annoying facial expressions of Doug). I know a lot of car reviewers already do this stuff but it really gives viewers a full picture of car almost as if they own it (cinematographically). Just a suggestion.
1:02... Isle of man green?! Isle of Man? Isn't that that crazy, insane motorcycle race, that dagerous one? U know the one. No it said sumn about TT I thought, maybe not... \O>
In Germany, the car starts at €160.000. The automatic tailgate operation, isn't standard, it's an add-on. The precision strut costs €1.100 not €2.000. But overall nice Video
My worried is about the turbo in long term. Not being a rich guy able to change the car every two years I'm evaluating to get one of these and own it for at least 10 years. Nowadays high performance means to push a small engine to its limit with one or two turbos. I'm wondering what is the lifespan expectation with this stress technique. Instead of the old school and long last V8. This simple fact is making me to hesitate to purchase this or a V8 (almost in phase out in the market). Any advise? or experience to share?
I don’t know where this weight come from if comp auto weights 1725kg and xdrive adds 50kg, so 1775kg. Where is this 60kg come from if comp xdrive weights less? Over 1800 kg that I have seen in the internet is with driver full tank and luggage. It was shown so many times these cars weights less. Basic non comp m4 with manual and carbon seats weights with quarter of fuel tank weights 1660kg. Auto adds 40kg, xdrive 40kg and bucket seats are 10kg lighter.
They keep the electric trunk but remove cupholders and the armrest. And tell us its for weight saving. Cool
Silly, that electric trunk adds a few kilos of weight, Cupholders are nearly weightless....
that is a option they paid for, not standard but you can get it if you don't care about those few kilos.
@@eirikaustad7580more of the point that the BS lack of cup holders for “weight savings” is a joke and actually costs practicality.
@@joetacchino4470If they actually say that is why then that is just straight up ridiculous bullshit😂 but still anyone with their eyes working can clearly tell it's because of that pad to rest your wrist on, pushing the center console piece forward making no room for the cup holders anymore.
They could of removed the charging pad and made room though...
I like the wrist rest pad idea a lot personally but I wouldn't have it at the expense of cup holders either, especially because this car isn't even a manual so if you want to do the best performance driving you'd be using the paddle shifters and not the gear selector anyways.
If anyone in the comments complaining about this can actually afford this car then that is truly great for you, get a bottled drink and put it in the door. It won't be G-series cup holders good but it'll work.
I’ve never even understood the point of electric trunks. Seems like cars manufactures fixed something that no one complained about.
Never clicked so fast
Same
It never got overtaken so fast by my stock ninja h2 sx touring bike
Me too 😂😂
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Not gonna lie, the last videos on this channel all featured cars with absolutely flawless paint jobs. This baby blue is absolutely gorgeous with the black wheels and black accents.
Not my personal color choice, but the car wears it well.
Probably looks much better in person too.
Yes, except that the wheels Are just tooo dark, but the Blue Is just Heavenly Beautifulll !!! 😀
The color is absolutely perfect for this car!
Ok, him talking at 14:05 while just being knee deep in the throttle is outright raw and insane.. I mean are you kidding me to a native I can see how it's normal but this is my first time ever seeing the Autobahn and WOW man you are crushing it...
Not to self promote, but I just weighed my 2025 M4 CS with the same specs (Canadian model). With a full tank of fuel, it came to 1755 kg or 3870 lbs.
150kg more than the previous model 😀
@@haluk123456 Well, I ALSO own a 2023 M4 comp X-Drive, with no lightweight options, whatsoever, that came out at 1785 kg or 3940 lbs. Both videos are on my channel. The CS is 30kg lighter in total but it has CCBs and Carbon buckets.
@@haluk123456that was the csl, ofcource it was lighter.
tryna be like you
@@haluk123456 I also have a 2023 M4 comp X-drive, it weighs 30kg more at 1785 kg. It does not have any weight saving options.
I have the CS steering calibration coded on my G80 Comp XDrive. It makes a HUGE difference, even without the suspension mods the CS has.
@@joetacchino4470 doesn't it come with faster gear shifts too? How do u buy it and does it make the car any faster?
Also interested. Where did you get the coding done?
How it affects the guaranty?
Dont believe everything you see on Internet mate @@jocamero
amazing car , we have a frozen isle of man green M4 CS in our showroom and it's absolutely stunning
I just realized something weird about the M4 CS sold in Germany. The Strut brace, driving assistant, automated tailgate, and heated steering wheel are all optional extras that we get over here in Canada and I presume the USA as standard.
Why weird?
I hate alcantara steering wheel because when it wears over time, it becomes sleepery.
Love the ‘teddy bear’s leg’ reference 😂
Patiently waiting for the G87 M2 CS. Just hope I can get it in Signal Green
that Audi driver was racing with you at 13:35🤣🤣
Very fast 100- 200.
You couldn't drive like this in The USA. People cut each other off constantly. People merge onto the freeway while eating a hamburger.
So true 😂
world's worst drivers
in europe its against the law to drive in the left lane unless youre overtaking, also its much harder to get a driving license in europe
I think it has to do with the speed limit. Think about it this way: here in Germany, if you switch lanes, YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST monitor the traffic besides (and more importantly) behind you because, more often than not, someone will come blastring trough with 250-300 km/h (155 - 185 miles an hour) and it's in your best interest to not get caught up in that kind of accident.
When driving in countries with a speed limit, I see others switching lanes much more inattentively because everyone's (basically) going the same speed. Caught myself doing it as well after a while.
So, in a weird way, I think the lack of a speed limit prevents a lot of accidents. If they do happen, though, they're more likely to be fatal.
@N0k4N in the US they don't care if they are driving 55 mph and change lanes in front of someone doing 80 mph.
Is the car producing artificial exhaust noise through the speakers?
Yes, sounds like it.
I understand why automakers do it, not everyone wants to hear you, but it does sound silly.
Not in the US . My car doesn't seem to have it
It‘s unfortunately just in the europa in other states it Sounds better because they haven‘t opf and CO2 emissions
Exciting M4 CS, exciting presentation!
This car is without rivals 💪 and continuity is already 50years without hiatus like some competition 😎
0:15 Me the guy that had no idea 🤠
If I had this kind of money, this would definitely be my daily!!
Very impressive this time, fantastic M!
The new headlights has grown on me starting to like it more and more I see the new m4 irl n in videos.
fine I'll watch it for the 3rd time
Nice I would love the M4 CS parked next to my 1M
Fully agree with the steering wheel.
The fact b58 runs to 260 and stuck until remap … that s58 run was well with no speedo limit !
Joy is what happens to us when we allow ourselves to recognize how good things really are.
Drove it (parkingspot change only)😜
The m4 cs and csl is awesome
BMW M sauce is top notch now a days
Saw you in Noordwijk maked pictures so beautiful
Greatest m car ever
Dat deze man nog zijn rijbewijs nog heeft is toch niet normaal. Rijdt gewoon 140 km per uur waar je 80/100 mag .
Teddy bears legs 🤣🤣🤣
That blue looks very similar to Swedish Racing Green, very nice looking.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS !!!
A would like a v6 from BMW. That is just a dream.
It's a R6
Would love to live in that house 9:08
too expensive.
An amazing car! The body rigidity is high, the stability at high speeds is incredible, and the power is outstanding. This car might rival the Porsche GT3.🏁
4:42 facts, hate it. It broke on my car, why not just mechanical..
I love the baa-ing of sheep in the background at the start lol
the fastest ive ever clicked on a video
The steering is way different than my g87… if I turned my wheel back and forth like you did at the end of the video I would’ve flew right off the road lol.
Magnificent review! Years of experience huh ? Lol
Wish we had autobahns in the USA. Sucks that we limit the speed so the states can make money.
On German-Sachsenring this "baby"-blue middle classed Top M4 CS as here showed; catched the Round-Time from the much expensiv and smaller Series-Street-Sport-Cars...Porsche 992 Turbo S and McLaren 765 .
Teddy Bear is going wild !
Fab video.
Nice lexus headlights
My romanian neighbor has one.... damn. so beautiful!
I love the color ngl
Amazing Car
WE ARE LIVING IN A TIMEEE
BLAAAAAST 📢📢📢
Transformation doesn't take place with a vacuum; instead, it occurs when we are indirectly and directly connected to all those around us.
10:38, doing the Trump impression I see :D
Save yourself the money. Get a 2022 XDrive and change out the front wheel hubs for CS hubs. Make suspension tweaks as necessary. Intake, Dp, n tune . Load up all CS driving parameters to the car. Put better rubber on it. BAM!! You’ll be in for $80k with a 750AWHP monster vs $140k for this.
Damn those American prices. Over here in Belgium the Comp Xdrive starts at 115K USD
@ good lord🫣 yea that’s outta control.
LESGOO M4 CS
What BMW G80 series to buy ?
M3 ? M3 Comp ? M3 CS ?
M4 ? ...
So in Europe, the yellow DRLs are yellow as parking lights? This goes completely against ECE laws as it clearly states parking lights in the front must be "white". Its not accepted by any European country to aftermarket yellow parking lights, but these cars can just hide behind being "type approved" for it, seems like car manufacturers can just give some money under the table for high ranking people in the EU and everything is fine and approved. Its the same with supercars, theyre exempt from the 74dB exhaust noise laws judging from how loud they are compared to other sports cars.
Front position/park lights are allowed to be of halogenic yellow hue. My Golf 6 had such positional lights, while daylight lights were standard halogenic, also with a faded yellow hue, compared to modern LED headlights. These daylight yellow lights on M4 CS should not be the same colour as yellow front blinkers.
It seems quite absurd that BMW is removing features like Active Cruise Control (ACC), especially on cars in this price range. ACC has nothing to do with performance or added weight, and even track-focused cars like the Cupra or RS3, which are designed as true "track weapons," come with ACC as standard. Why would BMW remove such a practical feature? It makes no sense, especially considering the high cost of these vehicles.
That color suits the car amazing 👌
Love
My take why carbon-ceramic breaks are not standard on M4 CS and should not be standard on any model. Carbon-ceramic discs are virtually eternal, but if a road pebble gets in between the breaking pads and the disc, you must throw that disc in a bin, where replacement costs 4000€. So, good luck driving your car with such breaks on a winter road, which was intentionally sprayed with gravel and salt. M-performance steel breaks will not overheat, but they will wear out. But a pair of discs cost 1000€ to replace. As I have been told by the people who track their cars quite often, you would need carbon-ceramic breaks only if you go on track every second week or more often.
well M4 sc is xDrive. vs M4 scl is rwd... from that alone there is a weight difference. So considering that xDrive cars weight almost 75kg heavier and weigh difference between CS vs CSL 50 kg that means they stripped more weight form body of CS. otherwise it would've been 75 kg difference.
Alse can yuo please show next time full view of the car from bit far since wide lenses close doesn't show much of all silhouette of the car
Very Nice 👋
So strange, my US spec'd 2025 M4cs has no power trunk.
It's a paid option
@@eirikaustad7580 Not on US cars, I spec'd out a 2025 M4cs at the dealership and saw the options list directly from BMW. I have a printout and there is no option for a power trunk.
@@Yukon6255 Weird if I could afford this car it'd cost me 600$ for that
These trunks are very light tho so easy to open and close, probably way faster that way too. A M4s trunk is also probably lighter than my 330 which is pretty light
@@eirikaustad7580 Only options are:
- Choice of 4 paints; BSM & Brookyn Gray $650, Riviera Blue & Frozen Isle of Man Green $4,500.
- Black or Gold rims (standard)
- Steel brakes (standard) or CCB's $8,500
- color of brake calipers (price included)
- choice of performance tires or ultra track tires
That's it for options on US cars.
ok dude the m4 has a wide body, thats fake news both have fender flares, the m3 looks wider as an illusion bc the rear door cuts into it,
I don't promote stupid decisions and a power trunk ( on a lid lol, not even a touring ) without cup holders is dumb. I hope it's just an option that you can put in but the cs should be a predefined spec focused on competition spec.
Wheres the ZO6 review?? 😢
We must overcome the notion that we must be regular. It robs you of the chance to be extraordinary and leads you to the mediocre.
*casually letting go of the steering wheel to explain in 150 kmph*
Front lights look a little like the Nissan s15
🎉 نایس بی ام دابیو 🎉
not sure the cs is a good "value" you get a couple things but not much more
Carbon Fiber hood cost $19k alone from BMW, Aluminum strut brace $3k, Gold CS Rims $4k, Carbon Fiber Front Splitter $3k, Carbon Fiber console at least $3k if not more, CS carbon buckets $4,500, increased the boost to get 550HP and transmission was remapped (these upgrades from factory and under warranty is at least $3k imo, otherwise you have to go aftermarket and you lose your warranty), CS tuned chassis and revised camber setup, recalibrated the adaptive dampers and the steering system, CS grill $600, CS DRL's, revised front intakes to improve cooling, CS steering wheel in Alcantara $500 , CS doorsills $300, exterior carbon package standard $4,500 and I might have missed some stuff. I had a 2023 M3 Competition xdrive for 2 years and now a m4cs and the difference between the 2 cars is huge just like this guy said in the video. The CS really is on another level and I honestly don't think I could ever go back to the competition model. The CS models are worth every penny imo. You really have to spend time in both cars to see how much better the CS is.
@@Yukon6255 All of that amounts to barely a difference in 0-100 and nurburgring times, people that buy this car are part of the problem allowing manufacturers to make slight differences and sell a car for thousands more for a badge and cosmetics. Worth every penny meanwhile a corvette z06 will annihilate it on track and straights for tens of thousnds of dollars less while looking better and sounding better...
BMW knows 99.99% of the people who buy these are not taking them to the track. So X drive makes more sense since it allows more practicality as far as bing able to drive the car year round and in wet conditions.
If you can't operate a rwd car in wet conditions, you shouldn't buy any high performance car at all.
@mathiaspreissler1 some of the most experienced drivers in the world died in a car crash. Everybody can have one bad day that proves to be fatal
@@HABO2210it’s not the cars fault though
I'm used to watching video without hearing your voice
How's this slower than M3 CS? That one reached 0-60 in 2.8s.
Watch the video. 100-200 this is substantially faster. 12:23
You are comparing your north American 60 mph to 100km/h , dont forget that...
@@dj1nnie and probably with a 1ft rollout
@dj1nnie you gonna nitpick over 3 km/h ?
3.8 you mean
Max doesn't say "Holy Moly" any more:(
He will just wait
I'm intrigued, with no regards to the price, would you rather have this or an Alpine A110s?
Is that spreadsheet of the 100-200 times available for download?
top!
NEED THAT 😢🤲🏽
Would be nice if you could show gps speed, the speedometer in the car is very rarely correct
i love m4
thanks
nice
Tbh if you get a regular M4 comp and put like 15k into the suspension. You have a better car no?
KW V5 will run you probably 4500€ so no, you don't need a 15k suspension in a street car.
@@mathiaspreissler1 bushings, rollbars working hours etc
If Americans would learn how to drive we could also have an Autobahn
Street legal m4
it's like a driving simulator or like playing forza motorsport ... this car might be well suited for the track where you need instant power and turn in but for a sunset drive... idk, I prefer an older, slower, mechanical-feeling car.
But it’s actually not. You might prefer the older car, but the newer one is far from a simulator.
In ww2 they say, german engineering is 10years ahead compared to other countries.
He probably addressed this before but can dude do a more thorough POV walkthrough of car before driving (a la Doug demuro w/o the annoying facial expressions of Doug). I know a lot of car reviewers already do this stuff but it really gives viewers a full picture of car almost as if they own it (cinematographically). Just a suggestion.
At this point they have done SO MUCH G80 content including the CS, that would be a waste. Because it hasn’t changed much since the pre-facelift.
1:02... Isle of man green?! Isle of Man? Isn't that that crazy, insane motorcycle race, that dagerous one? U know the one. No it said sumn about TT I thought, maybe not...
\O>
Yep... And MAN those guys are freaking insane racing in such a tight area like that with deadly walls and buildings to crash into!!
@@volvo09 Yeah, it's right thru a village!!^^
\O>
In Germany, the car starts at €160.000. The automatic tailgate operation, isn't standard, it's an add-on. The precision strut costs €1.100 not €2.000. But overall nice Video
My worried is about the turbo in long term. Not being a rich guy able to change the car every two years I'm evaluating to get one of these and own it for at least 10 years. Nowadays high performance means to push a small engine to its limit with one or two turbos. I'm wondering what is the lifespan expectation with this stress technique. Instead of the old school and long last V8. This simple fact is making me to hesitate to purchase this or a V8 (almost in phase out in the market). Any advise? or experience to share?
💙 Very Beautiful 💙
@AutoTopNL favourite car between M2CS, M5CS and M3/4CS?
2838 Wuckert Highway
I don’t know where this weight come from if comp auto weights 1725kg and xdrive adds 50kg, so 1775kg. Where is this 60kg come from if comp xdrive weights less? Over 1800 kg that I have seen in the internet is with driver full tank and luggage. It was shown so many times these cars weights less. Basic non comp m4 with manual and carbon seats weights with quarter of fuel tank weights 1660kg. Auto adds 40kg, xdrive 40kg and bucket seats are 10kg lighter.