How would you try to make a Parker Square? Your goal would be to make a square that almost reached the goal of the square, but the goal will loop, unless you tried to make a Parker Square of a Parker Square of a Magic Square. Therefore you can only make a Parker Square out of something else and not out of itself. Of course you could define a Parker Square as a Magic Square with one failed diagonal line and with repeating numbers, but I don't think that is the definition they were going for.
You've just created a paradox: 1. Your attempted parker square is not a parker square. 2. That makes it a parker square because you almost got it to be a parker square. So your square is and is not a parker square. Now it's your decision: Did you create the penultimate parker square? As close as you can get to be one (because it is one) but not one at all (because being one makes it not one).
"Stop trying to make Parker Square a thing!" PARKER SQUARE T-SHIRT NOW AVAILABLE Seriously, I love this video. So genuinely funny, funnily genuine and perfectly edited that even after ten times of watching it I still laugh so hard I start crying.
In all these years I never realized that the Parker Square video also gave us "the mathematical definition of fame" which, personally, is one of my all time favorite lines. I think it's really underappreciated!
Years down the road someone is gonna be reading some math paper that the author snuck a Parker Square joke into and Matt Parker himself will be definitively math famous
The more I think about it, the more does Parker square sound like a great name for a town square =) You can almost hear people say "You know, they tried to make it nice..."
True, but it implies there is a family of Parker Squares! Maybe we are on to something here. "The Parker Space"? Like Hilbert-space, but not quite right! :-D
. [Y'know, I was] [going to make] [a joke about] [the Parker Square] [but I couldn't] [going to make] [think of one...] [the Parker Square] [Y'know, I was]
I typed in "the Parker square" on Wikipedia and was directed to Matt Parker, looked at listed achievements and it just said "creator of the Parker square" xD xD
+Árni Þór Þorgeirsson have a messed up Rubicks Cube with two-five sides being the same color, complete at least one side of it, failing the others, then give up on it - and boom, you have yourself a Parker Cube.
As a French Person, I will now use "Parker" as something close to its end but not completely. Then I'll explain why. Don't worry Matt, you will be Parker remembered
Years ago, I started sculpting clay because I was losing motricity in my hands and had to keep them busy. I never was an artistic minded individual and I hadn't the slightest notion of proportions or shapes. One of the first things I modeled was a human skull... the most pathetic, malformed and medically concerning human skull by shape. But I was proud of it and to this day, 16 years of sculpting and modeling later, it sits in my desk as a grotesque and embarrasing yet fond reminder of how I started. This square kind of reminds me of that... of how you start a hobby or passion with pitiful attempts that don't quite work... but they are *your* attempts and represent your determination of not giving up on your goals and projects. I, from now on, I'm going to refer to this as "giving it a Parker"
The Parker Square may not be a great addition to mathematics but, it is a wonderful addition to the lexicon of the English language! So useful in describing the world of the Not Quite Right. Thank you for your contribution!
3:40 - I'm not calling it the Parker square... 2021 - 'Parker' becomes an adjective in maths meaning 'almost worked'. It's not just squares, EVERYthing can be Parker. :-D
I really want to make "The Parker square" a catchphrase among my friends. Sadly, they are not big maths fans, so it may turn out to be the Parker square of catchphrases.
This man was part of a project where they built a massive calculator of dominoes which sadly didn't quite work (a Parker Square event), and yet this is the most deflated that I have seen him.
i will use 'parker square' in a conversation some time. i don't know when but it will be used for something that is on the cusp of perfection but has so much further to go. we need to make Matt famous!
Nice, someone has already made the Parker Square Wikipedia article... :D Watch the exact moment of Matt's fate (3:28) "...I don't want to call it a Parker Square..."
8 лет назад+9
+Thulyblu It has a deletion discussion running, but 42 people edited it. :D
if we consider that a "Parker Square" is one where each row and column and ONE diagonal add up to the same thing, then there are TONS of them. I wrote a quick program to crunch search all values 1 to 100, and it's spitting out "Parker Squares" all over the place. It'll take about a week to run to find all values where the base is < 100
I was thinking about doing something similar but only for cubes. This is definitely the correct approach despite taking EXORBITANT amounts of time to compute.
I feel like I could write a entire book about this 4:54 video analyzing every single nuance of how great the comedy in it is. It has everything. You couldn't intentionally write a skit that hits as many comedy buttons so dexterously as this mostly-improvised little video. I'll never not find it hilarious.
After years of Numberphile videos I only just came to this gem of a video, after listening to Matt Parkers brilliant audio book version of "The Humble Pi". Thank you so very much for giving the world the Parker Square!
That's the "magic square" with a single diagonal that has the smallest total for the seven lines which work. Second smallest is: 148 | 254 | 4 194 | 116 | 188 164 | 92 | 226 No square works with both diagonals (or with one diagonal other than variants of these two) with a line total less than 120,000. My program is still running to try higher totals, but got to 120,000 in an hour or two...
Been using it since the video came out and no one ever seemed to know what I was talking about. Went to the park yesterday and saw some kid attempt a skateboard trick (I'm neither young or cool enough to know what it was), but didn't stick the landing. Turned to my own kid and said, "oh he Parker Squared that" and the skater dude gave me a thumbs up and said his name was Matt, too! I was a bit speechless that someone finally seemed to get it.
At 3:28, there was no longer any hope for Matt to get rid of the Parker Square meme; he was just digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole throughout the rest of the video from that point.
If "Parker square" would relate to everything in maths that works in every way except one. You wouldn't have your name relate to the proudest achievements but remember: it would be used a LOT.
1:18 in mathematics in 2023, fame means doing some maths that some youtube educator covers in a video that goes viral because of some inside joke, which someone makes a lot of merch money from
Sir, but if you become the mascot of giving it a go, you would become the mascot of discovering, of research that you can't get a greater honour than that.
Merch: ruclips.net/video/aOT_bG-vWyg/видео.html
Wrong link
@@KaliMaShaktiDevi, a Parker link?
@@mina86 Aye, you could say that
Omg
@@mina86 plink
and a mathematical meme is born
It's already a year and parker square meme still a parker square.
you saying that makes it not parker square
Luis Dias and the thing is only the numberphile fans get it, so it doesn’t get old or outdated or oversaturated
Can confirm, watching this video because I felt out of the loop after seeing parker square comments on many different videos
It's certainly not the best meme, but it is a classic Parker Square meme
If I deliberately try to make a Parker Square, but it turns out to be a valid Magic Square, would it then be a Parker Square OF a Parker Square?
How would you try to make a Parker Square? Your goal would be to make a square that almost reached the goal of the square, but the goal will loop, unless you tried to make a Parker Square of a Parker Square of a Magic Square.
Therefore you can only make a Parker Square out of something else and not out of itself.
Of course you could define a Parker Square as a Magic Square with one failed diagonal line and with repeating numbers, but I don't think that is the definition they were going for.
It would be a Parker Square squared
You've just created a paradox:
1. Your attempted parker square is not a parker square.
2. That makes it a parker square because you almost got it to be a parker square.
So your square is and is not a parker square. Now it's your decision: Did you create the penultimate parker square? As close as you can get to be one (because it is one) but not one at all (because being one makes it not one).
It's a Parker cube.
Martín Varela actually, it would be a parker tesseract.
"Stop trying to make Parker Square a thing!"
PARKER SQUARE T-SHIRT NOW AVAILABLE
Seriously, I love this video. So genuinely funny, funnily genuine and perfectly edited that even after ten times of watching it I still laugh so hard I start crying.
A contestant wore it on a Dutch reality TV show Wie Is De Mol?
I died laughing when that showed up
Update: It's an actual mathematical term now
Rovan, I'm just commenting so you'll come back and watch it again
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In all these years I never realized that the Parker Square video also gave us "the mathematical definition of fame" which, personally, is one of my all time favorite lines. I think it's really underappreciated!
Years down the road someone is gonna be reading some math paper that the author snuck a Parker Square joke into and Matt Parker himself will be definitively math famous
The more I think about it, the more does Parker square sound like a great name for a town square =)
You can almost hear people say "You know, they tried to make it nice..."
Or it could be almost square.
But is it a park or square? :-)
You can only be barefoot in the head in a square.
It also sounds like a great name for a Monopoly board square. Put it right next to Park Place and subject its houses to rent controls.
There is one in Cambridge
"Any sufficiently advanced Parker Square is indistinguishable from a Magic Square." -Arthur C. Clarke, 2016
Severely underrated comment
How does this only have 39 likes?
@@Gnomaana 40 now x")
@Jefferson Paul Mitchell Waller if we remove a 0 it is a power of 2 :D i love powers of 2
phenomenal comment
Parker's attempt at not making Parker Square a thing turned out to be a real Parker Square.
Awwwwwwsome.
The irony of the Streisand Effect (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect?wprov=sfla1)
+Richard Aversa
Like durr plant?
false.
"....once every century someone will look your name up in an obscure book."
Wow. Perks.
Someone wrote an article on wikipedia about the Parker Square
I'm gonna have to look that up but I hope it's true
I only saw an article saying it was "considered for deletion" and I couldn't find it back. Looks like there was one, in the past, though.
Rosie Isla There was, but I believe it got deleted later on.
You can use the Way-back Machine to view that article.
Matt is still fighting it :P
29 1 47
41 37 -1
23 -41 -29
now its much better :D
A negative times a negative is a positive.
That's the point
XD
The diagonals still don't work
True, but it implies there is a family of Parker Squares! Maybe we are on to something here. "The Parker Space"? Like Hilbert-space, but not quite right! :-D
It will be so funny when people show up to matt's comedy routines wearing those t-shirts
+Suave Atore that's the plan
+Numberphile I already got mine :D
That is a strange definition of "funny".
standupmaths haha hi matt. Big fan :D
standupmaths My life would be complete if you signed my shirt :D
Parker squares are the best kind of squares.
Almost.
+Penny Lane I meant in my heart.
Actually they are the most adequate of squares
I spend my days now trying to find more Parker Squares
Blob from dtf? I remember you. Hope you're well.
. [Y'know, I was] [going to make] [a joke about]
[the Parker Square] [but I couldn't] [going to make]
[think of one...] [the Parker Square] [Y'know, I was]
+KasabianFan44 Oh my god this is perfect
+KasabianFan44 thats genius hahaha
+KasabianFan44 You deserve a cookie. It is a digital cookie, which is almost like a real one, but not quite. A Parker Cookie maybe? 🍪
+KasabianFan44 genius xD
+KasabianFan44 U wot mate?
I typed in "the Parker square" on Wikipedia and was directed to Matt Parker, looked at listed achievements and it just said "creator of the Parker square" xD xD
Omg 😂
After the recent Numberphile video, this is now an historic moment in mathematics history.
Which one is that?
@@Raumance
Finite fields probably
"Don't make this a thing!"
...
...
[Makes merch of thing]
lol
That is Brady's definition of not making it a thing. I'm just surprised he stopped short of commemorative mugs…
+standupmaths You've basically just guaranteed that's next on the line, now!
French the Llama!
Poor poor Parker. I knew he was in trouble the when I saw the square.
If you give up on solving a Rubik's cube, can you just say you made a Parker Cube?
+Árni Þór Þorgeirsson yes.
+Árni Þór Þorgeirsson But you first have to try. If you don't try, it's just a failed rubiks cube.
you also have to get it MOSTLY right. Like the faces all have 1 color wrong, but the rest correct.
+Árni Þór Þorgeirsson have a messed up Rubicks Cube with two-five sides being the same color, complete at least one side of it, failing the others, then give up on it - and boom, you have yourself a Parker Cube.
if you gave it a go.
I just discovered quite a lot of "1 by 1" type magic squares!
xD
You didnt discover them, you just Parker Square'd.
+Nick Champion All 362880 permutations?!
+Nick Champion I just extended your work to a family of hyperdimensional magic shapes!
+Nick Champion i just discovered quite a lot of magic squares containing only 1s
I mean this in the politest way, but whenever I need a laugh, I come here
Emperor Palpatine Yes this must be my 10th time watching this haha
The irony is that Matt has made far more fame and money from being "the Parker Square guy" than he would have made off discovering an actual solution.
Parker square is totally a thing Matt. Don't underestimate the internet hahaha
+yaseen reza allmost a thing
+Electro-Cute Its a real Parker square of a thing XD
I order the T-shirt a few days ago but you know what I'm still waiting for? Rose-tinted square glasses...
I actually ended up here trying to figure out what a parker square is after watching his pi day video on standupmaths.
Grega Meglic yo dawg I herd you like Parker squares
As a French Person, I will now use "Parker" as something close to its end but not completely. Then I'll explain why. Don't worry Matt, you will be Parker remembered
+Chris Pi par coeur ?
+Chris Pi ahah Parker remembered :D
+Chris Pi We, as citizens of planet Earth, MUST make this a thing.
or we'll try to make it a thing but only a rather small subset of people will actually know about it... kinda a parker square of an attempt
Indicatif, présent: Je parke, tu parkes, il/elle parke, nous parkons, vous parkez, ils/elles parkent.
Years ago, I started sculpting clay because I was losing motricity in my hands and had to keep them busy. I never was an artistic minded individual and I hadn't the slightest notion of proportions or shapes.
One of the first things I modeled was a human skull... the most pathetic, malformed and medically concerning human skull by shape. But I was proud of it and to this day, 16 years of sculpting and modeling later, it sits in my desk as a grotesque and embarrasing yet fond reminder of how I started.
This square kind of reminds me of that... of how you start a hobby or passion with pitiful attempts that don't quite work... but they are *your* attempts and represent your determination of not giving up on your goals and projects.
I, from now on, I'm going to refer to this as "giving it a Parker"
+Zirkalaritz "giving it a Parker" is now a thing.
The man. The myth. The legend. The Parker Square.
years later and finite fields are being classified as "parker" and "non-parker" all because of this video. it's iconic now
this has to be the funniest numberphile i've seen in a while. it took all my will power to LOL
+DjDedan I guess your willpower was only parker square willpower
Proverbial Potato ouch! :-)
+DjDedan Brain Power?
You mean it took all your willpower not to laugh?
Yes... and there is a song called 'Brain Power'
reuse 3 numbers twice and one of the diagonals doesn't even work: The Parker Square
crash6871 You've got a Parker square there in saying "reusing twice"
The Parker Square may not be a great addition to mathematics but, it is a wonderful addition to the lexicon of the English language! So useful in describing the world of the Not Quite Right. Thank you for your contribution!
mark Schippel It's a Parker sqaure of an addition to mathematics
The fact that Matt Parker exists continues to make the world a tiny bit brighter
3:40 - I'm not calling it the Parker square...
2021 - 'Parker' becomes an adjective in maths meaning 'almost worked'. It's not just squares, EVERYthing can be Parker. :-D
I really want to make "The Parker square" a catchphrase among my friends. Sadly, they are not big maths fans, so it may turn out to be the Parker square of catchphrases.
After thinking about it for a while (46 seconds) I realized how much philosophy is hidden behind the Parker-Square.
+UMos that's a parker-square amount of time to think about it
Bad Luck Brian:
* Discovers a Magic Square *
* It's a Parker Square *
+BattousaiHBr I love this!
+Bob Bobson That was a Parker Square kind of comment. So close!
Bad Luck Brian
Bad luck Parker
Coming in from June 2023, Parker Square, and its derivatives of "Parker [concept]" are still alive and well! Sorry, not sorry, Matt!
Probably the funniest clip on numberphiles.
I am 100% using "that's a real Parker square" as often as possible.
I already use it with all of my friends and so far no one has got the reference despite me telling them to watch this video all of the time.
Best numberphile video ever. I parker squared my exams the other day.
You mean you gave them a really good go!
standupmaths
Yes ! I like them so much i'll go for them a second time ;)
standupmaths This comment is a parker square
Well joke's on us , i guess he made way more than 1000£ by selling that shirt.
He even published a book including the Parker Square, way more than £1000
This legendary video wouldn't be nearly as legendary if Matt himself weren't so damn cute and charming.
I think we can all agree that the best Parker square ever is when Matt said "I don't want to call it Parker square"
I love how the instant he realizes the name is inevitable, he starts finding rationals for it.
So mathematical fame is a Parker Square kind of fame.
It's a perfect square in my heart.
Without a doubt one of the most legendary videos on Numberphile.
This man was part of a project where they built a massive calculator of dominoes which sadly didn't quite work (a Parker Square event), and yet this is the most deflated that I have seen him.
My life is a Parker square.
Whenever Numberphile does a video with Matt Parker I'm laughing constantly throughout the whole video xD
Thanks! Hopefully for the right reasons.
standupmaths Absolutely!
+standupmaths He's laughing at your magic square Matt, I wouldn't take it from him!
+standupmaths Almost the right reasons. Not quite though.
True, he seems like he was on Monty Python. Except when he took the wrong position on tau v pi.
"But I gave it a go! And of course I didn't find. I found this... this... adequate... you know... it's like..."
in youtube's search bar, "parker square" is the first result for "pa", above "parabola" and "partial fractions"
Parker vs Non Parker…oh how far we’ve come!
Matt hopes this whole "Parker square" thing will be just another Parker square and not quite make it to popularity.
Nope.
Best one
I was gonna write something witty, but in the end I just parker-squared it and came up with this instead.
I'm guessing the grammar mistake at the end is there to show the Parker-square-ness of the comment? ;)
*****
Actually no, is there an error I can't see there?
Ze Rubenator "Instead" is one word ;)
*****
Oh yeah, you're right (:
you know what, your comment is not that great. but you gave it a go, and that's what matters
i will use 'parker square' in a conversation some time. i don't know when but it will be used for something that is on the cusp of perfection but has so much further to go. we need to make Matt famous!
You might find the conversation goes a bit Parker Square.
+standupmaths its an honor to have you reply to my comment. :D
I watched this video so many times.
@4:27
"Stop trying to make Parker square a thing"
* Merch appears
Gets me every time !
It might be a mascot for giving it a go... rip
It’s got it’s own Wikipedia entry now 💀
Haha, the shirt has made it to Dutch television :') Diederik Jekel wears it on 'Wie is de mol?' S17E07
This was hilarious. :D Best mathmatical bromance in history.
lol hi :D
the dawn of a meme. I'll never forget
Got my t-shirt. Now having to explain it to people who think it's a new band!
Let's just say it's close to being one but it isn't quite there.
Nice, someone has already made the Parker Square Wikipedia article... :D
Watch the exact moment of Matt's fate (3:28) "...I don't want to call it a Parker Square..."
+Thulyblu It has a deletion discussion running, but 42 people edited it. :D
FaRo
hehehe lol
if we consider that a "Parker Square" is one where each row and column and ONE diagonal add up to the same thing, then there are TONS of them. I wrote a quick program to crunch search all values 1 to 100, and it's spitting out "Parker Squares" all over the place. It'll take about a week to run to find all values where the base is < 100
neat
I was thinking about doing something similar but only for cubes. This is definitely the correct approach despite taking EXORBITANT amounts of time to compute.
+themaskedcrusader Do you mind to show us a couple of those Parker Squares your program found please? :)
+Joee Green There was a bug in my code giving me false positives. I've fixed the bug and will let you know when a legit parker square is found
+themaskedcrusader replying to see your replies
Easy solution:
√2 √7 √6
√9 √5 1
√4 √3 √8
Done :)
You might as well go
√2 √7 √6
3 √5 1
2 √3 √8
Looks better it seems. :D
Well then... dont you win a nobel prize now?
@@vrabiealexandru2755 fields medal. No nobel prize for math
Imagine if the problem was that easy. You can just take ANY magical square, take the sqrt of all numbers, and then ask for your thousand euros.
Lol
I feel like I could write a entire book about this 4:54 video analyzing every single nuance of how great the comedy in it is. It has everything. You couldn't intentionally write a skit that hits as many comedy buttons so dexterously as this mostly-improvised little video. I'll never not find it hilarious.
Do it
I like the enthusiasm of this guy. This is what it s like when someone is truly passionate about sth.
After years of Numberphile videos I only just came to this gem of a video, after listening to Matt Parkers brilliant audio book version of "The Humble Pi". Thank you so very much for giving the world the Parker Square!
29 squared + 1 square + 47 square
41 squared + 37 squared + (-1) squared
23 squared + (-41) squared + (-29) squared
there. now every number is unique :)
This video is the definition of “it’s not much but it’s honest work”
Oh my gosh these shirts are still available! This is hilarious!
I honestly believe this is among numberphile’s non-parker videos
Another Parker Square:
74 | 82 | 97
2 | 113 | 94
127 | 46 | 58
that's a parker square of a parker square example - you used 9 different numbers, you didnt fail hard enough
That's the "magic square" with a single diagonal that has the smallest total for the seven lines which work. Second smallest is:
148 | 254 | 4
194 | 116 | 188
164 | 92 | 226
No square works with both diagonals (or with one diagonal other than variants of these two) with a line total less than 120,000. My program is still running to try higher totals, but got to 120,000 in an hour or two...
*cue Coldplay music*
"When you try your best but you don't succeed"
Eight years later, and it’s still amazing how he brought this on himself. He spoke the Parker Square into being! 😊
"In maths fame means that someone will see your name every century in some obscure old book" xD
I have an almost marvellous proof of Fermat's last theorem but I Parker-squared it...
Je pensais pas que sur cette video je tomberais sur un de tes commentaires!
I love numberphile! I think I have numperphilephile
+Varizon parkerphile keepo
Wouldn't it be you have Numberphilephilia?
+Laxxius Yes, I think he has Numberphilephilia.
So he is a Numberphilephile.
+Varizon That's a real Parker Square of a pun
I love all of you guys! I think I have Numberphilephilephilephilephilephilephilephilephilephilephilephile
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This is the most classic Numberphile video to me. I don't think I'll ever be able to stop watching it.
best numberphile video EVER.
I routinely use the phrase Parker square in conversation and nobody knows what I'm talking about
Been using it since the video came out and no one ever seemed to know what I was talking about. Went to the park yesterday and saw some kid attempt a skateboard trick (I'm neither young or cool enough to know what it was), but didn't stick the landing. Turned to my own kid and said, "oh he Parker Squared that" and the skater dude gave me a thumbs up and said his name was Matt, too! I was a bit speechless that someone finally seemed to get it.
At 3:28, there was no longer any hope for Matt to get rid of the Parker Square meme;
he was just digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole throughout the rest of the video from that point.
Just submitted parker square to urban dictionary, soon ill go for Marriam Webster.
The town I live in has a town center called Parker Square...
And thus, a legend is born
3:54 Matt, I hope you will one day be the Patron Saint of "giving things a go." XD
This video is a Parker Square
It's not a magic square, but at least it's in the ballparker
+Enrique Medarde Which is precisely a Parker Square. :)
+Danial Haseeb But a ball park is a diamond, not a square.
+Jim Fortune a Parker Square is also a diamond: a shape that's almost a square but not quite :D
Enrique Medarde A ballpark diamond isn't square. Maybe a ballParker square is a new thing...
+Jim Fortune We're getting somewhere. We should go play basematt in the ballparker.
If "Parker square" would relate to everything in maths that works in every way except one. You wouldn't have your name relate to the proudest achievements but remember: it would be used a LOT.
x³ ≠ 8 is such a Parker square.
IceMetalPunk
What if x = 1.29683955465?
I don't quite understand what you mean ;)
It works in every way(x not 2) but fails on one way( x = 2 ).I think that's a Parker square.
IceMetalPunk
Due to the power of zooms I saw an 8 instead of a 3.
David Melo
Ah. I think I get it.
"Some people would say that -- "
"I would say that!"
Who else is here from the 10958 problem??
and both published on Apr 18. Nice Parker Square anniversary by solving 10,958 Problem
Bilal Zahid yes absolutely so curious I just had to.
Yup
me too
@@PrachayaJansub I wonder what time it was published.
I'm very glad Parker Square is now a thing!
Does this mean a triangle can be called a Parker Square?
Yes, if it had four sides. Except then it would be a Parker triangle.
Somebody call the urban dictionary! Brady has done it again!
+888SpinR Done, entry in evaluation, will comment when evaluated
1:18 in mathematics in 2023, fame means doing some maths that some youtube educator covers in a video that goes viral because of some inside joke, which someone makes a lot of merch money from
Burst out laughing at the digits; 513 keeps peeking out at me. :)
We are not going to make it a thing, but maybe a parker square of a thing.
So now he's more famous for failing than the 7x7 cube numbers guy is for succeeding
I have the solution to P=NP
P = NP
P = NP | -P
0 = N
P = 0P
P = 0
Well, it's not the solution, but i parker-squared it.
+Spiked Blueshell No, P would be equal to zero. N would then be any number.
+Evan Knowles or P is any number and N is 1
P=00P
come on man you obviously just divide both sides by P and you get N = 1.
Lol it's P Vs NP problem , not P = NP . Let's see how you solve that millennia prize problem .
Sir, but if you become the mascot of giving it a go, you would become the mascot of discovering, of research that you can't get a greater honour than that.
this is a piece of history