Squaring Primes - Numberphile

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  6 лет назад +359

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  • @clearlyc0nfus3d19
    @clearlyc0nfus3d19 4 года назад +3763

    Watching a PhD mathematician struggle to get 17^2 was reassuring.

    • @TheVillan1980
      @TheVillan1980 3 года назад +218

      It was a Parker square...

    • @sylviaxx3574
      @sylviaxx3574 3 года назад +84

      does he have a PhD?

    • @williambiggs3699
      @williambiggs3699 3 года назад +235

      A quick way in your head is to use base multiplication.
      In this case base 20...
      17 + 3 = 20
      17 - 3 = 14
      14 * 20 = 280
      3 * 3 = 9
      280 + 9 = 289
      Or base 40 for 36²
      36 + 4 = 40
      36 - 4 = 32
      40 * 32 = 1280
      4 * 4 = 16
      1280 + 16 = 1296 🤗

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 года назад +41

      Ah, binomial theorem, my old nemesis, we meet again.

    • @joshuabradford8372
      @joshuabradford8372 3 года назад +18

      @@williambiggs3699 unfortunately that’s not how multiplication works.
      For example, 7 x 7 is 49, but 6 x 8 is 48, and 5 x 9 is 45, and 4 x 10 is 40, and 3 x 11 is 33, and 2 x 12 is 24, and 1 x 13 is 13, and 0 x 14 is 0, and -1 x 15 is -15, and -2 x 16 is -32, and it just keeps decreasing by more every time.
      If you don’t believe that, try 8 x 8 is 64, 7 x 9 is 63. This means that 17 x 17 DOES NOT EQUAL 14 x 20. Sorry about that.

  • @Richard_is_cool
    @Richard_is_cool 6 лет назад +874

    0:58 I love how he rewrote the 139 to make it read 289 after he scored out that calculation so he could say "Dammit I was right". Parker convincing.

    • @ojaskumar521
      @ojaskumar521 3 года назад +4

      No of likes 468 . Divide it by 2 you get 234. Well now you have increased his like count

    • @faizanmohsin3685
      @faizanmohsin3685 3 года назад +4

      The sum was actually 289. Check it again

    • @sameldacamel3889
      @sameldacamel3889 3 года назад +11

      He wrote the 170 so it looked like a 110 that is why his maths is wrong. And he carried the 1 wrong.

    • @JakubS
      @JakubS 3 года назад +2

      Hello Richard.

    • @matkomajstorovic6935
      @matkomajstorovic6935 3 года назад +4

      That was a real parker square of a calculation.

  • @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
    @N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 6 лет назад +2743

    Video starts with Matt trying to Parker square 17.

    • @Israel220500
      @Israel220500 6 лет назад +168

      17 Parker squared

    • @WhattheHectogon
      @WhattheHectogon 6 лет назад +23

      You're my hero.

    • @grandpaobvious
      @grandpaobvious 6 лет назад +11

      Algorithms are for computer nerds.

    • @besserwisser4055
      @besserwisser4055 6 лет назад +1

      and more

    • @kuromurasaki5273
      @kuromurasaki5273 6 лет назад +10

      @@grandpaobvious algorithms are a key part to how the (human) world sustains itself. They are part of every facet of our technological life; from your mcdonalds order and grocery stores to space x and mars rovers.

  • @Jacob-yg7lz
    @Jacob-yg7lz 4 года назад +442

    I like how hard it was for him to do the math in his head. It reminds me of the saying "the more math you know, the harder it is to do math"

    • @KemonoFren
      @KemonoFren 3 года назад +4

      Who said that?

    • @kryptoknight992
      @kryptoknight992 2 года назад +13

      @@KemonoFren Joe

    • @GroovingPict
      @GroovingPict 2 года назад +17

      mental arithmetic is not "doing math" and you completely missed what that saying is, well, saying

    • @Rishnai
      @Rishnai 2 года назад +7

      @@GroovingPict Aye that’s the fun part about sayings, they gain power as both their original meaning and its inverse over time

    • @messagedeleted1922
      @messagedeleted1922 2 года назад +2

      knowing how to do math, and actually doing math are two different things.

  • @BrooksMoses
    @BrooksMoses 3 года назад +146

    I like how the four categories from your proof also show up in the "easier" proof. Either the multiple of 4 is above or below the prime, and either the multiple of 3 is above or below the prime, giving four possibilities that directly correspond to your categories.

  • @munjee2
    @munjee2 Год назад +61

    It amazing how matt did all the mental maths perfectly and then said 170 +70 AND 49 is somehow less than the original

  • @jerry3790
    @jerry3790 6 лет назад +5157

    *Sees first two primes don’t follow his rule
    *Calls them sub primes.

    • @nimmin8094
      @nimmin8094 6 лет назад +536

      To be fair, 2 is the only even prime. It breaks a lot of rules.
      You can modify it and use a different equation, and see it works for inverted positive integers:
      2^2=(1/8)(24)+1
      3^2=(1/3)(24)+1

    • @mrmimeisfunny
      @mrmimeisfunny 6 лет назад +625

      If you read the book, you know he calls them sub primes because they are prime by default and don't even have an opportunity to be divided by anything.

    • @qwertyman1511
      @qwertyman1511 6 лет назад +49

      @@nimmin8094 evenness is a poor property to use.

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 6 лет назад +50

      @@mrmimeisfunny *No* prime can be divided by anything -- if it could, it wouldn't be prime. [By any positive integer except itself and 1, of course.]

    • @macronencer
      @macronencer 6 лет назад +190

      @@rosiefay7283 I think the point is that 5 is the first prime greater than 2x2 (the first compound number), though I don't remember reading that part of the book so I might be wrong.

  • @j_sum1
    @j_sum1 6 лет назад +237

    17^2=139
    I think I just witnessed Parker Squaring.

  • @KingdaToro
    @KingdaToro 5 лет назад +364

    4:31 Matt received weapons of math instruction

    • @PsyChoLogicZ
      @PsyChoLogicZ 4 года назад +15

      Said Mike Tyson

    • @52flyingbicycles
      @52flyingbicycles 4 года назад +12

      One of the few cases when the British “maths” (🤮) would be better because “maths” sounds more like “mass”

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 3 года назад +2

      @@52flyingbicycles so you could have maths confusion and maths debate...?

  • @HunterJE
    @HunterJE 2 года назад +46

    That second proof gave me chills down my spine when I saw where it was going, you might even say it was an Amazingly Satisfying Mathematical Result

  • @nimmin8094
    @nimmin8094 6 лет назад +604

    3*3 is one more than 8, 1/3 of 24.
    2*2 is one more than 3, 1/8 of 24.
    Pretty neat!

    • @slartbarg
      @slartbarg 6 лет назад +49

      exactly, he didn't say that it had to be a whole number integer multiple of 24

    • @TheDGomezzi
      @TheDGomezzi 6 лет назад +225

      Hahahah Slartbarg, in that case, all numbers are multiples of 24

    • @jamespfp
      @jamespfp 6 лет назад +13

      *LULZ* So Yeah -- I thought I caught a mistake in your maths there Nimmin, but I double-checked what you wrote -- 3*3 isn't the same as 3^3, my bad.
      *BUT LOOK.*
      2^3 = 8 ; 3^3 = 27; 5^3 = 125; 7^3 = 343
      Or, 1/3 of 24; 24 + 3; (5*24) + 5; (14*24) + 7.... :D

    • @nimmin8094
      @nimmin8094 6 лет назад +7

      @@TheDGomezzi I was just going by inversions of integers

    • @nimmin8094
      @nimmin8094 6 лет назад +2

      @@jamespfp My brains a bit slow this morning. I'm interested! I'll have a proper look this afternoon :)

  • @christianp7200
    @christianp7200 6 лет назад +375

    17²=139, nice to start the video with a parker equation!

    • @NOTNOTJON
      @NOTNOTJON 5 лет назад +3

      can someone make this T-shirt please?

    • @MithunGaming
      @MithunGaming 5 лет назад +1

      Can you explain what a Parker equation is? Please

    • @zucc4764
      @zucc4764 5 лет назад +14

      @@MithunGaming it's a running joke (meme if you will) when a calculation/classification is a miss, recategorizing them as a "Parker square or equation" etc. instead of identifying it as a miss.

    • @hingedelephant
      @hingedelephant 5 лет назад

      Mithun Gaming - Parker Square or Parker Equation: A joke that has outlived it’s humor and should die.

    • @zahidshabir4038
      @zahidshabir4038 5 лет назад +1

      the easiest way to work it out for me is just work out (17*20)-(17*3) and 17*10 is 170 which is above the 139 he worked out

  • @sietsejohannes
    @sietsejohannes 5 лет назад +1092

    Matt: There is a pattern with prime squares, they are all multiples of 24 plus 1.
    All?
    Matt: Almost all.
    So it's a parker squares pattern then...

    • @alexvandenbroek5587
      @alexvandenbroek5587 4 года назад +38

      It is truly a parker square because if they're all a multiple of 24+1, surely they are all also a multiple of 2+1. It's more graceful cause you don't have to call 3 subprime. Whatever even number above 1 you pick, it'll always have some cut off point where a prime is too small for it to work. Unless you pick 1+1, which includes all the primes because it is literally the definition of primes. Matt is just defining prime numbers here in a very weird and unnecessary way..

    • @alexvandenbroek5587
      @alexvandenbroek5587 4 года назад +4

      @Urrcreavesh I never claimed that it has anything to do with squares because it doesn't. I'm referencing a meme about the parker square because it's used whenever Matt tries to do something clever which is unimpressive and doesn't work very well. I think this is such an occasion. Look it up, it's on RUclips somewhere

    • @jovianarsenic6893
      @jovianarsenic6893 3 года назад +32

      @@alexvandenbroek5587 multiples of 2 + 1 does not sound impressive at all since that is the definition of an odd number.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 3 года назад

      Many primes do not follow his rule not just 2 and 3.

    • @debarshidas8072
      @debarshidas8072 2 года назад +1

      @@dannygjk example?

  • @B3Band
    @B3Band 5 лет назад +104

    Nice sneaky edit of the 139 on the paper

  • @ractheworld
    @ractheworld 5 лет назад +70

    I just love your guests, every one of them. Listening to them is such a treat.
    Thanks

  • @Thomas-vn6cr
    @Thomas-vn6cr 6 лет назад +565

    I sure hope the maths related items are for review and unboxing purposes.

    • @CompactStar
      @CompactStar 6 лет назад +8

      You have more likes than one of Numberphile's pinned comments.

    • @skeletonrowdie1768
      @skeletonrowdie1768 6 лет назад +4

      no hate, but i don't get unbox excitement and i'm jealous

    • @beardedemperor
      @beardedemperor 6 лет назад +12

      @@skeletonrowdie1768 I generally agree, but calculator unboxing is a whole different beast.

    • @andyb6177
      @andyb6177 6 лет назад +5

      MathSSSS

    • @munjee2
      @munjee2 6 лет назад +2

      They could just for his store though

  • @seanfraser3125
    @seanfraser3125 6 лет назад +1259

    “I like to argue that 2 and 3 are not real primes”
    Goodbye, fundamental theorem of arithmetic

    • @grandpaobvious
      @grandpaobvious 6 лет назад +40

      is it iconoclasm or nihilism? We report, you decide!

    • @quaternaryyy
      @quaternaryyy 6 лет назад +16

      CogitoErgoCogitoSum Its called a joke lol

    • @blackflash9935
      @blackflash9935 6 лет назад +29

      @@quaternaryyy I am pretty sure he was joking too so... double r/wooosh for you, I guess.

    • @ThomasNimmesgern
      @ThomasNimmesgern 6 лет назад +23

      welniok There is one reason to prefer Fahrenheit: Compared to Celsius, you usually get much more degrees in Fahrenheit.

    • @israelRaizer
      @israelRaizer 6 лет назад +5

      ​@@e11eohe11e 2 and 3 ARE real primes: a number is prime when it is divisible by only 2 numbers, 1 and itself. 2 is divisible only by 1 and itself, thus fulfilling the criteria, there's no such things as real or non-real primes. The only other category related to primes that I can remember now is semiprimes, which you get when multiplying 2 primes together.

  • @dan_tr4pd00r
    @dan_tr4pd00r 6 лет назад +513

    Only three things are certain: Death, Taxes, and Parker Square jokes.

    • @macronencer
      @macronencer 6 лет назад +3

      Don't forget rice pudding.

    • @Pacvalham
      @Pacvalham 5 лет назад +1

      Parker Squares from the Nile; does anybody else get the second reference?

    • @priyanshusudhakar5206
      @priyanshusudhakar5206 5 лет назад +2

      Man you stole it from a scientist whose name i cant remember .The real statement goes like this “there is nothing certain in this universe except death ,taxes and the second law of thermodynamics”

    • @alfredo.zauce1892
      @alfredo.zauce1892 4 года назад

      Priyanshu Sudhakar No, the real statement is from Benjamin Franklin and it’s only the first two.

    • @renatoherren4217
      @renatoherren4217 3 года назад

      The fourth one are Uranus jokes. 😜😜😜😜

  • @yoni5919
    @yoni5919 4 года назад +21

    I am currently doing my degree in maths and one of the things we need to prove is that all primes squared (above 3) are one more than a multiple of 6, and I know how to prove it because of your video. love you matt!!!!

  • @sb-hf7tw
    @sb-hf7tw 5 лет назад +175

    STEP 01: Make a RULE
    STEP 02: When u find any element not following RULE, simply call them exceptions.
    STEP 03: When u find infinite such exceptions, say it's a COROLLARY of the main RULE!
    Now, u R done!!!

    • @trombonemunroe
      @trombonemunroe 4 года назад +19

      There is a point to be made, though, that 2 and 3 are the only primes which are smaller than the lowest compound number (which is 4). So they are kind of special in that way.

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 3 года назад +2

      Any number plus half of itself is odd.

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 3 года назад +3

      @ABHINAV JAIN That's an exeption.

    • @Green24152
      @Green24152 3 года назад +3

      @ABHINAV JAIN That's just a corollary of the main thing.

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 3 года назад +2

      @ABHINAV JAIN that's the joke

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 6 лет назад +863

    17^2=139.
    C'mon. Now you're just begging us to make a Parker Square joke.

    • @masansr
      @masansr 6 лет назад +22

      And the way he did that, wth. (a+b)^2=a^2+2ab+b^2 is much easier to square numbers!

    • @karolakkolo123
      @karolakkolo123 6 лет назад +20

      @@masansr yep. 20 * 14 = 280 and then + 3^2 = 289
      Because basically you have (n+3)(n-3) = n^2 - 9. Then you just add 9 to get n^2

    • @moadot720
      @moadot720 6 лет назад +6

      139 dislikes on the video...

    • @mateuszm7882
      @mateuszm7882 5 лет назад +12

      17 x 17 is the easiest way, lol

    • @simonvanprooijen
      @simonvanprooijen 5 лет назад +1

      @@mateuszm7882 yeah haha

  • @Wontervandoorn
    @Wontervandoorn 6 лет назад +129

    A prettier (or at least quicker) version of the first proof:
    (6m ± 1)^2 = 36m^2 ± 12m + 1
    = 12m(3m ± 1) + 1
    and 12m(3m ± 1) is divisible by 24 as either m is even, or 3m ± 1 is even

    • @anon6514
      @anon6514 5 лет назад +5

      Just posted similar comment - yours is better.

    • @Myrus_MBG
      @Myrus_MBG 5 лет назад +3

      Also just posted a similar comment, yours is better since I don’t know how to do +/- without copy and pasting it online which I was too lazy to do.

    • @krowa1010
      @krowa1010 4 года назад +1

      yeah this is much better, cause at least you dont need to assume that we have 2m or 2m+1 which is not necessarily true, just that even or odd which is 100% true

    • @kourii
      @kourii 4 года назад +4

      @@krowa1010 Um, even numbers can all be written as 2m, and all odd numbers can be written 2m+1. What are you trying to say?

  • @patricksalhany8787
    @patricksalhany8787 6 лет назад +227

    2 and 3 are not primes but subprimes?
    Mmmmm
    I too like to live dangerously.

    • @innactive1407
      @innactive1407 6 лет назад +3

      @CogitoErgoCogitoSum because you can-t divide it by 1 and itself since it's the same. Also we can do it from truth by contradiction. Let's say we have a prime p p is divisable by p and 1. if 1 is a prime then it is the only prime thus since having 1 singular prime is useless 1 is not a prime

    • @015Fede
      @015Fede 6 лет назад +15

      @@patricksalhany8787 this is circular reasoning. The fundamental theorem of arithmetics assumes 1 is not prime. Then, you can't prove it with the fundamental theorem of arithmetics.
      1 is not prime, because we have defined prime numbers to be such that they have exactly 2 divisors. 1 has only one divisor, so it is not a prime number.

    • @unfetteredparacosmian
      @unfetteredparacosmian 6 лет назад +3

      @CogitoErgoCogitoSum Because we define them to have exactly 2 divisors: 1 and themselves

    • @An_Amazing_Login5036
      @An_Amazing_Login5036 6 лет назад +1

      Ok, say i think i like the idea of 1 being prime. I put on my magic hat and make everyone use the definition of prime as
      A prime is any positive integer factorisable only with itself and 1.
      What, except the trivial loss of the fundamental theorem of algebra, (which i would like to restate as every number can be written as a unique, simplest possible prime factorisation. Why would it not work?) what breaks? Please enlighten me in how our naturalistic understanding of math (i don’t have any clues about the ground-floor of peano-arithmetic, only that it is how i usually count and use numbers).

    • @lunafoxfire
      @lunafoxfire 6 лет назад +11

      @@An_Amazing_Login5036 I mean, mathematicians used to consider 1 as a prime number, but as number theory evolved it was generally agreed upon that it's easier to just say that it isn't one. That way you avoid constantly saying "every prime except for 1". Also primes are interesting solely because of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic. You could say they were "invented" as part of the theorem. So it would be kinda counterproductive to say 1 is prime but then also make an exception for it in the theorem.
      In a sense, 1 is "too special" to be "just" a prime number... it's sort of a foundational concept that's _even more_ fundamental than primes.

  • @MrYairosh
    @MrYairosh 5 лет назад +637

    my theorem: every prime cubed is one more than a multiple of 2.

    • @ronindebeatrice
      @ronindebeatrice 5 лет назад +74

      Well yes. A prime will be an odd number. The product of 3 odd numbers will be odd. Was this a joke? I'm dim.

    • @MrYairosh
      @MrYairosh 5 лет назад +185

      of course it's a joke @@ronindebeatrice

    • @patricksalhany8787
      @patricksalhany8787 5 лет назад +158

      yair koskas wrong.
      2 is a prime.
      2^3=8.
      8 is not 1 more than a multiple of 2.
      Your theorem is wrong.

    • @MrYairosh
      @MrYairosh 5 лет назад +42

      @@patricksalhany8787 so this is the only prime that doesn't follow my theorem

    • @patricksalhany8787
      @patricksalhany8787 5 лет назад +46

      @@MrYairosh yeah, but you said EVERY prime, so including 2.

  • @Myrus_MBG
    @Myrus_MBG 5 лет назад +27

    You can do it with (6n+1)^2:
    36n^2+12n+1
    12(3n^2+n)
    If you remember that n^2 is odd if n is odd and even if n is even, then you can see that 3*odd+odd will be even and 3*even+even is also even. So, it’s 12(even) which is a multiple of 24.
    You could also just factor it as
    12n(3n+1), and either n or 3n+1 has to be even since if n is odd, 3*odd+1 is even

  • @takonyka
    @takonyka 6 лет назад +485

    lol i love how he failed 17^2

    • @patricksalhany8787
      @patricksalhany8787 6 лет назад +107

      What's weird is that he said that 17^2 is 170 plus something, but he got at the end 139 which is less than 170.
      Aliens.

    • @edskev7696
      @edskev7696 6 лет назад +33

      Parker square!

    • @patricksalhany8787
      @patricksalhany8787 6 лет назад +2

      @diego maradonna I thought you were only a footballer, but you also do maths.
      Wow!
      Keep up the great work dude !

    • @patricksalhany8787
      @patricksalhany8787 6 лет назад +3

      @diego maradonna ohhhhh. That is sad.

    • @VWftw82
      @VWftw82 6 лет назад +4

      And the dude has a PhD in mathematics!

  • @HBMmaster
    @HBMmaster 6 лет назад +150

    every prime being adjacent to a multiple of six is yet another reason why seximal is the best numbering system (all primes end with 1 or 5!)

    • @effuah
      @effuah 6 лет назад +31

      Fails at 2 and 3

    • @dermathze700
      @dermathze700 6 лет назад +136

      @@galoomba5559 I prefer the unary number system, since every prime including 2 ends in 1.

    • @The_Guy_
      @The_Guy_ 6 лет назад +1

      @@galoomba5559 correct

    • @fatsquirrel75
      @fatsquirrel75 6 лет назад +5

      @@effuah Every prime adjacent to a multiple of six does not include 2 and 3.

    • @stuartofblyth
      @stuartofblyth 6 лет назад +13

      Just to spell it out for fatsquirrel75
      5 is seximal 5 (0 x 6 + 5)
      7 is seximal 11 (1 x 6 + 1)
      11 is seximal 15 (1 x 6 + 5)
      13 is seximal 21 (2 x 6 + 1)
      17 is seximal 25 (2 x 6 + 5)
      19 is seximal 31 (3 x 6 + 1)
      and so on.
      I love it! Thank you, @@HBMmaster.

  • @NOTNOTJON
    @NOTNOTJON 5 лет назад +28

    I watch a lot of mathy channels, this one, loads of sci show, 3 blue 1 brown etc.. Somehow it has taken until today for me to realize that though I love these videos, deep down, I come here for the comments section.

  • @sattat3705
    @sattat3705 4 года назад +6

    P^2 - 1 way of proving is so very elegant. It really melts my heart. Simple & Brilliant

    • @abhinavs2484
      @abhinavs2484 3 года назад

      91 = 24*345 + 1, but 91 is not a prime :)

    • @karthikeyank132010
      @karthikeyank132010 3 года назад +1

      @@abhinavs2484 91 is not a square either. 91 = 7 x 13

  • @thetntsheep4075
    @thetntsheep4075 4 года назад +177

    So Matt's method, in its inferiority, could be called "The Parker Proof".

    • @Piaseczno1
      @Piaseczno1 3 года назад +6

      Right, but someone earlier called it the Parker goof.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 3 года назад

      Many primes do not follow that rule not just 2 and 3.

    • @Solarsooo
      @Solarsooo 2 года назад

      @@dannygjk like which one?

  • @thomasi.4981
    @thomasi.4981 6 лет назад +6

    I paused at 9 seconds to work it out with algebra. It makes tons of sense! I knew right away that it was reasonable since prime numbers themselves have a similar multiple+offset pattern, where they are 6n+-1

  • @ancbi
    @ancbi 6 лет назад +47

    8:15 "I did this way. This is mine. I love it."
    That's the sipirit!
    of a classic Parker Squarer.
    Keep calm and square on.

  • @KappaClaus
    @KappaClaus 6 лет назад +204

    Makes me feel human even mathematicians trouble with head calculations!

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 6 лет назад +45

      Einstein used to carry a cheat sheet around with various fundamental constants written down and Ramanujan lost a mental-calculation contest to a random guy at Cambridge.

    • @charlesmartin1972
      @charlesmartin1972 5 лет назад +24

      The professor who got me to understand calculus couldn't tie his shoes

    • @EricPetersen2922
      @EricPetersen2922 5 лет назад +5

      Charles M - I’m a successful biz man and can’t tie a necktie.
      We all have our strengths & weaknesses

    • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
      @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 5 лет назад +3

      Nah it's just a Parker Square he meant to do that.

    • @Peter_1986
      @Peter_1986 5 лет назад +1

      Some mathematicians love to make themselves appear all mighty and invincible, but they ALSO struggle with math every now and then.
      Like Matt Parker himself has said a few times - math nerds don't necessarily love math just because it's "easy", they love it because they enjoy its difficulty.

  • @ThomasGodart
    @ThomasGodart 5 лет назад +19

    Wow, the second demonstration is very clever. I wouldn't have found it

  • @kat-oh3hx
    @kat-oh3hx 5 лет назад +66

    > supposed to work for all primes
    > works for almost all (not 2 and 3)
    > the parker square of prime patterns

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones 4 года назад +10

      They aren't subprimes, they are Parker Primes :)

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 4 года назад

      upvote that man

    • @JamesSonOfBaboonzo
      @JamesSonOfBaboonzo 4 года назад +2

      This comment is under appreciated.

  • @iateyourgranny
    @iateyourgranny 6 лет назад +6

    You can do it all at the same time:
    (6k +- 1)^2 = 36 k^2 +- 12k + 1
    Then factor out the common stuff in the first two terms:
    = 12k(3k +- 1) + 1
    Either k is even, or, if k is odd, then (3k +- 1) is even.
    In either case, 12k(3k +- 1) is a multiple of 24.

    • @genewirchenko347
      @genewirchenko347 5 лет назад +1

      I did about the same. A lot simpler than his four cases.

  • @TheDabol51
    @TheDabol51 6 лет назад +20

    Here's an algebraic simpler version:
    (6k +/- 1)^2=36k^2 +/- 12k + 1
    Rearange to:
    24k^2 + 12(k^2 +/- k) +1 = 24k^2 + 12(k(k +/- 1)) + 1
    Now, either k or k+/-1 is even so we can write :
    24k^2 + 24(k(k +/- 1)/2) + 1 = 24(k^2 + k(k +/- 1)/2) + 1 = 24N +1, where N must be an integer since both k^2 and k(k +/- 1)/2 are.
    QED

    • @michalbreznicky7460
      @michalbreznicky7460 6 лет назад +3

      I did something midway between yours and the one in the video: (6k +/- 1)^2=36k^2 +/- 12k + 1 = 12k(3k +- 1) +1. Since k(3k +-1) is divisible by 2 as either k or (3k +-1) must be, then 12k(3k +-1) must be divisible by 24.

    • @louiswouters71
      @louiswouters71 5 лет назад +1

      There's a far easier method. The squares of 1 3 5 7 mod 8 are all 1. And the squares of 1 2 mod 3 are all 1. Combine the two and it must be one more than a multiple of 24.

  • @DrSnap23
    @DrSnap23 6 лет назад +82

    So 139 is the Parker square of 17, huh.

  • @dickballsour
    @dickballsour 5 лет назад +33

    Does that mean 2 and 3 are Parker primes?

  • @richardnanis
    @richardnanis 5 лет назад +21

    I love numbers theory, esp. with primes! So amazing and easy to follow! Keep it on!

  • @SD-el9wj
    @SD-el9wj 6 лет назад +252

    The fact that you don't count 2 and 3 as proper prime numbers is the REAL subprime crisis.

    • @haidynwendlandt2479
      @haidynwendlandt2479 4 года назад +19

      S D to be fair, both 2 and 3 are the only prime numbers divisible by 2 and 3 respectively

    • @akshataggarwal4002
      @akshataggarwal4002 4 года назад +2

      @@haidynwendlandt2479 Dude,do u even know the definition of prime numbers?

    • @haidynwendlandt2479
      @haidynwendlandt2479 4 года назад +2

      Akshat Aggarwal The proof forces the numbers not be divisible by 2 or 3, so every prime number greater than 3 works

    • @akshataggarwal4002
      @akshataggarwal4002 4 года назад +2

      @@haidynwendlandt2479 that doesn't explain ur 1st comment,it doesn't make any sense.

    • @haidynwendlandt2479
      @haidynwendlandt2479 4 года назад +3

      Akshat Aggarwal I literally said in my first comment that 2 and 3 were prime numbers. I was explaining that one of the reasons why he didn’t include them was because the proof doesn’t allow for the numbers to be divisible by 2 or 3.

  • @gustavoexel5569
    @gustavoexel5569 6 лет назад +30

    Actually it is possible to prove that a multiple of 6 +- 1 has rest 1 in the division by 24.
    x = (6k+-1)^2 mod 24
    x = 36k^2 +- 12k + 1 mod 24
    x = 12k^2 +- 12k +1 mod 24
    x = 12 * k*(k +- 1) + 1 mod 24
    And since k*(k +- 1)=0 mod 2, because it is the product of two consecutive integers (and therefore must be even)
    x = 1 mod 24

    • @deept3215
      @deept3215 6 лет назад +3

      Haha, yeah, that's basically what I did too and was wondering why he said it was too complicated... Started to think I did something wrong

    • @rabbitpiet7182
      @rabbitpiet7182 5 лет назад +1

      Gustavo Exel are you German?

    • @user-tn2dk2pg2p
      @user-tn2dk2pg2p 5 лет назад +1

      @@deept3215 Lol, I proved it too and was confused how you could make a 13 minute video on the properties without realizing it was trivial.

    • @Jooolse
      @Jooolse 5 лет назад

      You missed a factor 3: x = 12*k*(3*k +/- 1) + 1 mod 24

  • @sacredbolero
    @sacredbolero 6 лет назад +56

    I was so proud that my proof is the “simpler” proof. Although being in secondary school... maybe I had a headstart with the p^2 - 1 part.

  • @JedidiahWB
    @JedidiahWB 2 года назад +1

    I think the word for the second proof is "elegant", it's compact, gets the job done.
    But elegance in design often comes after the working out and pruning of things that are unnecessary, and are often not the route that is taken by a pathfinder; instead, it's the shortest route that you can really only clearly see after you've made it to the destination. I always think of when I would be off-trail in the mountains and come across something interesting. The path I would take people on to come and view the interesting thing was usually much shorter than the route I took to discover it, because now I have the destination and you can find the "shortest route" to it. I think the mental path of discovery is very analogous, and I'm happy that Matt has made a point of showing the more circuitous paths, I think it really makes the journey seem more accessible to people and de-mystifies math and knowledge, which is all too often held up as unattainable and some sort of magic. Yea, once you point something out to other agents and experts in your space, people will start optimizing immediately, and the result of that peer-engagement usually has that sort of elegant and beautiful quality. But, often the most innovative ideas come from a mind that is just bent on finding "A" better way or "A" solution, and it's great to showcase that grit and brute-force and inelegance are not enemies of furthering understanding and knowledge, while at the same time, showing how engagement with other experts takes a "cool" idea, and turns it into something beautiful. --- Thanks Matt (If you're still reading comments on here 4 years later)

  • @hkayakh
    @hkayakh Год назад +5

    I recently found a marvelous pattern in the prime numbers! Every prime number is a prime number!

    • @stwlta
      @stwlta Год назад +1

      did you know all primes are indivisible by all numbers except itself and one?

    • @pierredenis2482
      @pierredenis2482 3 месяца назад +1

      ... and conversely!

  • @DrSnap23
    @DrSnap23 6 лет назад +1192

    Aaaaand Matt Parker failed a square again. Typical.

    • @DanielVCOliveira
      @DanielVCOliveira 6 лет назад +73

      Lots of Parker Square jokes, but your wording was the best lol

    • @DrSnap23
      @DrSnap23 6 лет назад +5

      Thanks xD

    • @ThePotaToh
      @ThePotaToh 6 лет назад +10

      -Typical- Classic.

    • @stapler942
      @stapler942 5 лет назад +1

      As he would say, at least he gave it a try.

    • @Yoshiyosh
      @Yoshiyosh 5 лет назад

      Horrendous!

  • @kevinjones5001
    @kevinjones5001 6 лет назад +44

    "elegant"
    ... as in ...
    "The friend's proof seems more elegant."
    ... might serve better, in context, than "easier".

    • @profdaniel1787
      @profdaniel1787 4 года назад

      Searched the comments to find this one. Elegant was the word he was searching for.

  • @pickleballer1729
    @pickleballer1729 6 лет назад +7

    Great video. I've always been fascinated with primes. The first thing I did when I got my forst computer(a Commodore 64 (khz processor speed) was to write a prime number generator and then tweak it until it would run really fast. Gees, what a geek.

    • @SkippiiKai
      @SkippiiKai 2 года назад +1

      You might like Dave's Garage channel. He talks a lot about programming prime number finders as a kid on very early computers and optimizing the code and now he uses the same code to test the speeds between 100 different programming languages.

    • @pickleballer1729
      @pickleballer1729 2 года назад

      @@SkippiiKai Thanks, I'll check that out.

  • @aashutoshmurthy
    @aashutoshmurthy 4 года назад +1

    I was writing a program to check if a number is prime or not and I used this mathematical concept over there.
    I just realized that though 2 and 3 don't fit into Matt's theory, but they can be applied to the concept in reverse manner, i.e,
    (2*2 -1) and (3*3-1) divide 24 perfectly.
    That helped in optimization of my solution.

  • @pepesworld2995
    @pepesworld2995 2 года назад

    thing about this dude is that hes real genuine. hes really skilled in what he teaches - because he enjoys it. hes real. and i appreciate that

  • @mememem
    @mememem 6 лет назад +181

    Also known as the Parker 24

    • @tasin2776
      @tasin2776 6 лет назад +9

      We should name everything he comes up with after him

    • @Kolkritan
      @Kolkritan 6 лет назад +6

      I'd argue it's just another type of Parker square.

    • @rewrose2838
      @rewrose2838 6 лет назад +3

      Actually the p^2= 24k-1 part works
      It's the 6k+1 and 6k-1 being equal to p part that's worthy of being called 'Le Parker 6'

    • @vincentwilliamrodriguez3572
      @vincentwilliamrodriguez3572 6 лет назад +1

      parker 139

  • @Aaron-P
    @Aaron-P 6 лет назад +400

    2 & 3 aren't *real* primes?!! And I suppose hydrogen & helium aren't real elements? 😉

    • @TheGeneralThings
      @TheGeneralThings 6 лет назад +84

      Only real elements are uranium and above.

    • @MrMichiel1983
      @MrMichiel1983 6 лет назад +34

      Aaron P.. They are real primes, but different from all the others. There is no way a non prime number can be in between 1 and 2 or 1 and 3, so it's a bit obvious that 2 and 3 must be prime. 5 is the first prime that has a non prime between it and 1 (namely 4)

    • @patrickgono6043
      @patrickgono6043 6 лет назад +50

      No. See, hydrogen and helium are the only real elements. Everything heavier are just metals *astronomy intensifies*

    • @Joe_Payne
      @Joe_Payne 6 лет назад +1

      And gold isn't an element? As it's not a prime?

    • @haniyasu8236
      @haniyasu8236 6 лет назад +16

      They're Parker primes. They fail to square to one more than a multiple of 24, but at least they gave it a go.

  • @staffehn
    @staffehn 6 лет назад +158

    I'm a simple man. I see Parker and squares, I click like!

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder 6 лет назад +2

      staffehn I remember when you still made videos

    • @YellowBunny
      @YellowBunny 6 лет назад +3

      It's always cool to find other RUclipsrs you (used to) watch in the comments.

  • @leonhardeuler9028
    @leonhardeuler9028 5 лет назад +16

    Hey Matt, it's a way shorter to show that (6n+1)² or (6n-1)² are Multiples of 24 plus 1
    For Example (6n+1)² = 36n²+12n+1 = 12( 3n²+n) +1
    3n²+n is always a Even number
    because if n is uneven you have 3*uneven²+uneven which alswes ends up beeing even because uneven+uneven = even
    and if n is even you have 3*even²+even which is even, too
    Therefore there is always a k from the natural numbers such that 3n²+n = 2k
    With that you have 12( 3n²+n) +1 = 12*(2k)+1 = 24k+1
    You can do the same with (6n-1)²

    • @EnteiFire4
      @EnteiFire4 3 года назад +2

      I prefer factoring to 12n(3n±1) + 1. For 12n(3n±1) to be a multiple of 24, you need n or (3n±1) to be even. If n is even, we're done. If n is odd, then 3n is odd, and adding or subtracting 1 gives an even number, so (3n±1) is even.

    • @richardfredlund3802
      @richardfredlund3802 3 года назад +1

      @@EnteiFire4 you can also use the p=6 plus or minus 1 fact, and note that of p-1 and p+1 in the factorization p^2-1=(p-1)(p+1), one is going to be a multiple of 6 and the other a multiple of 6 plus or minus 2 and so is a multiple of 4.

    • @Tim3.14
      @Tim3.14 3 года назад

      @@richardfredlund3802 I like that! Although I think the pair is either a multiple of 6 and a multiple of 4, *or* a multiple of 12 and a multiple of 2. That still works, though.

    • @Tim3.14
      @Tim3.14 3 года назад

      To put it another way, the product of any two consecutive even numbers is a multiple of 8. So the square of any odd number is one more than a multiple of 8. And since all primes past 2 are odd, all you need is that one of those factors is a multiple of 3.

    • @Tim3.14
      @Tim3.14 3 года назад

      Or more concisely: If 2 doesn't divide p, 8 divides p^2-1. If 3 doesn't divide p, 3 divides p^2-1. So if neither 2 nor 3 divide p, then 24 divides p^2-1.

  • @LetMeRetort
    @LetMeRetort 6 лет назад +5

    2 and 3 work too. 2^2 is (24 * 1/8 + 1), and 3^2 is (24* 1/3 + 1). And since the multiplier is a fraction less than 1, I am with Matt on calling these two numbers as sub-prime.

    • @rayscotchcoulton
      @rayscotchcoulton 2 года назад +1

      I'm sure someone somewhere said this (and I haven't finished watching the video, so maybe they'll cover it?) but 2^2 - 1 = 3, and 3^2 - 1 = 8 .... and 3 x 8 is 24 :)

  • @rogerwang21
    @rogerwang21 5 лет назад +39

    Just say “For primes 5 and greater”

    • @DarthTaiter79
      @DarthTaiter79 4 года назад +5

      I was thinking what could be added "if p^2 > 24, then...."

    • @anandsuralkar2947
      @anandsuralkar2947 3 года назад

      U mean all the primes?
      2 and 3 are subprimes.
      According to matt Parker

  • @JordanMetroidManiac
    @JordanMetroidManiac 6 лет назад +8

    My teacher actually had me and his other students prove this on a test. He expected us to use equivalence classes in mod 24. The proof follows these steps:
    1) Partition the set of all integers by all of the equivalence classes in mod 24.
    2) Consider the classes as the range of numbers from -11 to 12 (these numbers are actually equivalence classes, so they represent the set of all integers).
    3) Cross out all of the multiples of two and all of the multiples of three. (We’re left with the equivalence classes -11, -7, -5, -1, 1, 5, 7, and 11, all still in mod 24).
    4) Square each number and minus one. The new numbers are 0, 24, 48, and 120, which are all multiples of 24.
    Of course, this proof does not show that only primes have this property. It only shows that numbers which are not multiples of two or three have this property, and since all primes are not multiples of two or three, they have this property. So, there are definitely numbers that aren’t multiples of two or three but are not prime, just like Matt showed in the video (e.g. 25). Such numbers are those of which there are multiple prime factors and none of the prime factors are two or three. In the case of 25, its prime factorization is 5 and 5, so it is one of the numbers that is not a multiple of two or three and is not a prime number. But it is definitely true that prime numbers are not multiples of two or three, so they can be squared and end up being one more than a multiple of 24.

    • @kristofferssondavid
      @kristofferssondavid 2 года назад

      Why don't use mod30?
      Then you are left with 8 possible primes every 30 numbers. 30 +-(1,7,11,13)
      Just like in mod 24 bur you seive out more numbers.

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams 3 года назад +2

    I've been interested in and studies prime numbers since I was 14 years old, and next month I will be 74, so that's 60 years. I've found all sorts of interesting, quirky facts about them. They are some of the most fascinating numbers to study, because it seems like there should be no patterns and yet they are everywhere.

  • @zackszekely6618
    @zackszekely6618 4 года назад +2

    Using the same method as the second (more creative) proof, it also turns out that if you take the square of a prime number and multiply it by that same square minus five, you'll always end up with four less than a multiple of 360.
    Example (using the prime number 7): 49 × 41 = 2156 = 2160 - 4, and 2160 = 360 × 6.
    The proof comes from multiplying the factors (p - 2) (p - 1) (p + 1) and (p + 2). You'd end up with a polynomial that looks like p^4 - 5p^2 + 4, which can be rewritten as p^2 (p^2 - 5) + 4.
    When you look at the four factors on a number line, in addition to having a multiple of 2, 3, and 4, the newly added (p - 2) and (p + 2) also guarantee a second multiple of 3 as well as a multiple of 5 (but only if you're using prime numbers higher than 5). Therefore, since 2 × 3 × 3 × 4 × 5 = 360, you can guarantee that multiplying all four factors will give you a multiple of 360.

  • @Fregmazors
    @Fregmazors 3 года назад +20

    I had no idea the primes could be divided into categories like this! In my (admittedly limited) maths education I got the impression that the defining characteristic is being absolutely without patterns. This video, as well as another video where you actually directly state that primes do have patterns, have enlightened me! Thank you. :)

    • @leong108
      @leong108 2 года назад +1

      Its not a generator, because not every (24k + 1 ) is prime. So its really not showing a pattern. Its created a pattern for possible primes, just the same as "not even" creates a pattern for possible primes. Now show a pattern to ALL the primes and ONLY the primes.

  • @bobingabout
    @bobingabout 4 года назад +5

    24 used to be my favorite number.
    Many of the reasons why it was my favorite number is basically the same reason why some people suggest Dozenal is a better number system than Decimal, it just divides nicely by a lot of single digit numbers.

    • @willmungas8964
      @willmungas8964 2 года назад

      What is your current favorite number?

    • @bobingabout
      @bobingabout 2 года назад

      @@willmungas8964 Not sure I even have one any more. though I do like the powers of 2, like 16, 32 etc, and I do still like 24.

  • @laxrulz7
    @laxrulz7 5 лет назад +4

    I like the second proof better not because it's "easier" but because it also shows why 2 and 3 don't square to multiples of 24 which is nice

  • @user-tn2dk2pg2p
    @user-tn2dk2pg2p 5 лет назад +1

    This is just a really easy number theory problem. We just use the fact that all primes can be written as 6k+-1 excluding 2 and 3.
    This fact is simple: We could have 6k,6k+1,6k+2,6k+3,6k+4,6k+5. Unless the prime is 2 or 3, we must have P=6k+5 or 6k+1.
    6k+5 is the same as a number of the form 6k-1. So we're just squaring 6k+-1.
    We just get P^2= 12(3k^2+-k)+1
    3k^2-k is the same as (3k-1)k. Either k or 3k-1 will be even (If k is odd 3k-1 is even and if k is even k is even).
    Then 3k^2+-k is the same as 2n for some integer n.
    Plugging in gives us P^2=12(2n)+1=24n+1 with the exceptions of 2 and 3.
    This isn't special about primes- Any number of the form (6k+-1)^2 is one more than a multiple of 24.

  • @TheFakeVIP
    @TheFakeVIP 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm definitely a Matt Parker type of maths enthusiast. I love maths, and I really appreciate the beauty of that second proof, but I would've for sure gone down the route of the first proof if I was solving this. I wish I had the intuition to solve problems the way the second proof does, but I don't.

  • @DaC10101
    @DaC10101 6 лет назад +81

    Parker: Squaring Primes

  • @nathana2898
    @nathana2898 4 года назад +46

    Bruh mathematicians will pull some bogus like “this number has to either be equal to 1 or not equal to 1” and it somehow shows them the answer

    • @52flyingbicycles
      @52flyingbicycles 3 года назад +8

      Strange but true. Proof by cases can be very helpful. It’s also why most mathematicians do their best work while they are young and creative. The genius of many mathematicians comes from clever ways to rethink of problems in (relatively) simpler terms

  • @KpxUrz5745
    @KpxUrz5745 3 года назад +3

    Very interesting. I already knew that 17^2 is 289 because, well, I like numbers, especially primes, and just happened to know that. Incidentally, genius savant Daniel Tammet called 289 an "ugly" number (in his incredible synesthetic mind), but I find the number 289 quite lovely.

  • @Algebrodadio
    @Algebrodadio 3 года назад +1

    The most instructive thing about this video is Matt explaining the difference between doing a proof the "easy" way and doing it the "hard" way.

  • @anon6514
    @anon6514 5 лет назад +2

    You can do it from the 6k+1 and 6k-1 cases.
    Squaring 6k+1 gives 36kk + 12k + 1, which is 24(1.5kk + 0.5k) + 1.
    Squaring 6k-1 gives 36kk - 12k + 1, which is 24(1.5kk - 0.5k) + 1.
    If k is odd then k squared is odd, if k is even, then k squared is even - therefore the bit in brackets is an integer.
    QED.

  • @tomaszjachimczak
    @tomaszjachimczak 5 лет назад +19

    A simple proof can better be described as an elegant proof.

    • @Thedeadbeatmatt
      @Thedeadbeatmatt 5 лет назад +2

      I had a geometry professor in community college always say, "Matthew, make this proof more elegant." At the time I didn't know what he meant. It wasn't until my capstone math course that I finally got what he meant. No other professor ever said it. I have my bachelors in math now. I'm with you. When he said easier, I immediately thought, nah that's more elegant.

    • @louisvictor3473
      @louisvictor3473 3 года назад +1

      @@Thedeadbeatmatt tbf, what is "easier" depends on where you're coming from at the moment. For me, the whole proposition seemed almost trivial and the p^2 - 1 approach sounded very similar to something I would try first. But that is because of something I have been working on that is actually very related to that, so of course I would try something more like it (that likely would quickly reduce to it itself).

  • @Archimedes115
    @Archimedes115 6 лет назад +8

    "2 and 3, I call them the subprimes"
    ~Matt Parker "Square"

  • @soyitiel
    @soyitiel 6 лет назад +28

    4:06 wow

  • @liviousgameplay1755
    @liviousgameplay1755 4 года назад +1

    Probably mentioned before, but I do like how 2^2-1=3 and 3^2-1=8, multiplying to form a familiar number.

  • @maninalift
    @maninalift 4 года назад +1

    Ooh! This is two years old and I have no idea what's in it but I love square primes

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  • @Thomas-vn6cr
    @Thomas-vn6cr 6 лет назад +479

    Nice haircut.

    • @fawadmirza.
      @fawadmirza. 6 лет назад +13

      😂😂😂

    • @eileenvilaca
      @eileenvilaca 6 лет назад +131

      Almost balding, not quite... could call it a parker cut.

    • @kgipe
      @kgipe 6 лет назад +4

      The ears could still use a trim

    • @pleindespoir
      @pleindespoir 6 лет назад +15

      @@kgipe
      how would he look without ears ?
      ;)

    • @kgipe
      @kgipe 6 лет назад

      Pleindespoir 🙉😂

  • @One0ldGeek
    @One0ldGeek 6 лет назад +50

    The first is brute force, the second is elegant

    • @numbr6
      @numbr6 6 лет назад +4

      Elegant proofs when clearly explained are usually more understandable. The brute force approach is arguably a stronger demonstration of primes occur next to 6. The elegant version requires the explanation to follow.

    • @viliml2763
      @viliml2763 6 лет назад +6

      Want an even more elegant one?
      All primes are +-1 mod 3, which means all prime number squares are 1 mod 3.
      All primes are +-1 or +-3 mod 8 which means all prime number squares are 1 or 9 mod 8, and 9 is also 1 mod 8.
      Combine those two facts to get that all prime number squares are 1 mod 24.

  • @jimbig3997
    @jimbig3997 5 лет назад +4

    I think the "slight of hand" is in calling the subject primes when ANY number not a factor of 2 or 3 will fit that pattern.

  • @haal0361
    @haal0361 4 года назад

    My approach (which is very close to the (p+1)*(p-1) explanation:
    1) Every prime number can be either expressed by 3a +1 or by 3a + 2. (a is an integer)
    (3a+1)² = 9a² + 6a + 1 -> (3a+1)² - 1 can be divided by 3
    (3a+2)² = 9a² + 12a + 4 = 9a² + 12a + 3 +1 -> (3a+2)² - 1 can be divided by 3
    2) Every prime number can be expressed as 2b+1
    (2b+1)² = 4b² + 4b + 1
    -> if b=2c (i.e. b is even), then (2b+1)² = 16c² + 8c + 1 -> (2b+1)²-1 can be divided by 8 if b is even
    -> if b=2c+1 (i.e. b is odd), then (2b+1)² = (4c+3)² = 16c² + 24c + 9 = 16c² + 24 + 8 + 1
    -> (2b+1)²-1 can be divided by 8 if b is odd.
    -> p²-1 can be divided by 8 and by 3 and therfore by 24...

  • @HurricaneEmily
    @HurricaneEmily 3 года назад

    Even easier: Ignoring 2 and 3, a prime is either 6m+1 or 6m-1. (6m+1)^2= 36m^2+12m+1 = 12m(3m+1)+1. If m is odd, m = 2k+1. 3(2k+1)+1=6k+3+1=6k+4=2(3k+2) which is divisible by 2 so you can factor out another 2 to get 24m(3k+2) + 1. If m is even, m=2k which means 12m=12(2k)=24k. So (6m+1)^2 is either 24m(3k+2)+1 or 24k(3m+1)+1. It works the same way if the prime is 6m-1.

  • @firefist3684
    @firefist3684 6 лет назад +13

    Every fourth power of a prime except for 2, 3, and 5 is one more than a multiple of 240.

    • @unfetteredparacosmian
      @unfetteredparacosmian 6 лет назад +3

      Every sixth power of a prime except for 2, 3, or 7 is one more than a multiple of 504.

    • @sergiokorochinsky49
      @sergiokorochinsky49 6 лет назад +4

      Let k be integer and p(n) be the n-th prime number, then:
      p(n>2)^2-1 = 1 x 24 x k
      p(n>3)^4-1 = 10 x 24 x k
      p(n>4)^6-1 = 21 x 24 x k
      p(n>3)^8-1 = 20 x 24 x k
      p(n>5)^10-1 = 11 x 24 x k
      p(n>3)^12-1 = 2730 x 24 x k
      p(n>2)^14-1 = 1 x 24 x k
      p(n>7)^16-1 = 680 x 24 x k
      p(n>8)^18-1 = 1197 x 24 x k
      p(n>5)^20-1 = 550 x 24 x k
      p(n>9)^22-1 = 23 x 24 x k
      p(n>6)^24-1 = 5460 x 24 x k
      ...
      As usual, the 24th power is a show off...

    • @customarylover3857
      @customarylover3857 5 лет назад

      @@unfetteredparacosmian Mind=blown
      5^6=15625=31*504+1
      11^6=1771561=3515*504+1
      13^6=4826809=9577*504+1

    • @asheep7797
      @asheep7797 8 месяцев назад

      Every zeroth power of a prime is one more than a multiple of 8,200,601.

  • @johnfmartin2576
    @johnfmartin2576 3 года назад +6

    Hi Matt-- Thank you for this interesting episode. I really dig your presentation

  • @SparksX18
    @SparksX18 5 лет назад +15

    Timestamps for the funniest parts
    0:20
    1:21
    1:34
    4:18
    7:47

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki Год назад +1

    Whenever he was trying to compute 17^2 and was coming up with an easy way to do it, I immediately thought "that's gonna be 170 times 2, minus 3 lots of 17." I even paused the video and heard it in Matt's voice in my head. "170 times 2 is 340, 3 lots of 17, 51, 340 minus 51........ 289."
    You can hear it in his voice now, can't you?

  • @noswanson1982
    @noswanson1982 5 лет назад

    I have been doing something similar as a easy trick to multiply squared numbers in my head.
    The difference of squares thing can be generalized.
    So, a^2, can be modified to a^2 - s^2 and it be changed to (a-s)(a+s). To solve for a^2, just add the s^2 back on to the answer.
    So, 19^2, can be rewritten as (19-1)(19+1) + 1 (or 361). 22^2 can be rewritten as (25)(19) + 9 or 484.

  • @blazingfire7517
    @blazingfire7517 6 лет назад +17

    I did 17 squares in my head and got it right first try. I’m proud of myself.

    • @trejkaz
      @trejkaz 3 года назад

      Sounds easy enough. Just do it as (16+1)².

    • @anonnymouse3058
      @anonnymouse3058 2 года назад

      I am the 17th like of this comment. I am proud of myself.

  • @cameronbaydock5712
    @cameronbaydock5712 6 лет назад +7

    Open question: I’m from Canada and when we talk about mathematics we shorten it to “math” not “maths” the way you do in UK, Aus, etc. Any reason why 4:28 said “Math-related items” vs “maths” despite Matt and Brady’s Aus backgrounds? Am I up too late again?

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 3 года назад

      IKR they are not being consistent.

  • @billborrowed3939
    @billborrowed3939 4 года назад +11

    Still pretty sure, that delivery actually was a new role of wrapping paper to write on and a bunch of sharpies.

  • @raymondjones2651
    @raymondjones2651 5 лет назад

    Placing 6n+-1 in several rows on a spreadsheet, 1 thru 6, 7 thru 12, 13 thru 18 etc. The result here is that two columns will contain prime numbers. Now 2 * 3 * 5 = 30. Place this on the spreadsheet 1 thru 30, 31 thru 60, 61 thru 90 etc. The result here is that 8 columns will contain prime numbers. Now 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 210. Place this on the spreadsheet 1 thru 210, 211 thru 420, 421 thru 630, etc. The result here is that 43 columns will contain prime numbers. If we continue with this 2310 gives 340 columns of primes, 30030 gives 3243 columns of primes. This continues with each prime number in the factorial. This also indicates the possible location of the different size gaps.

  • @calebspringer1192
    @calebspringer1192 3 года назад +1

    I think it is indeed worth emphasizing that the "prime" part of the statement is basically a red herring. And that's something I say as a number theorist! The claim is just about integers which aren't divisible by 2 or 3, i.e., numbers which are coprime to 24. In the world of abstract algebra, we would say that the (multiplicative) group (Z/24Z)* is isomorphic to the (additive) group (Z/2Z)x(Z/2Z)x(Z/2Z). In practical terms, that implies that if n is an integer which is coprime to 24, then n^2 is congruent to 1 mod 24.
    Similarly, if you take any integer n which isn't divisible by 2, 3, 7 or 31, then n^(30) = 1 mod 5208. This is because:
    (Z/5208Z)* = (Z/2Z)^5 x (Z/3Z) x (Z/5Z).
    You can do similar things with 5208 replaced by any integer! You just need to look at the group structure. The only thing that makes some cases look special is finding an integer (like 24 in the video, or 5208 above) where the elements of the multiplicative group of units have small order compared to the size of the group. You can do this by finding a collection of primes p where p-1 is a "smooth" number.

  • @will4not
    @will4not 6 лет назад +8

    This is some Grade-A prime content. I love prime facts.

  • @MrBoubource
    @MrBoubource 6 лет назад +5

    0:50 parkerSquare(17) = 149.
    Should we create a new OEIS sequence to collect all the parker squared Matt has discovered over the years?

  • @livintolearn7053
    @livintolearn7053 6 лет назад +106

    I wanna know what was in that delivery was all about!!

    • @benderrodriquez
      @benderrodriquez 6 лет назад +38

      It was a copy of the book "Arithmetic without Calculators"

    • @si48690
      @si48690 6 лет назад +2

      Lol

    • @beardedemperor
      @beardedemperor 6 лет назад +9

      He got a fresh shipment of math.

    • @PTNLemay
      @PTNLemay 6 лет назад +11

      Pure, unrefined math.

    • @misterhat5823
      @misterhat5823 6 лет назад +2

      3D printed buttplugs. With the profile specified by a complex formula.

  • @primerepresentingconstant
    @primerepresentingconstant 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this very much for this video. The video shows that pi is approximately 22 / 7. This value is approximately 3.14. Using the properties of this value we can compute prime numbers in sequence, which is based on the existing computing capability. The formula was an algorithm, that was developed by a well known mathematician. Using his formula and the method that I discovered, I can compute prime numbers in sequence using 22 / 7 .

  • @JohnThomas-rx7eo
    @JohnThomas-rx7eo 2 года назад

    Easy way to find 17 squared: add 3 to get 20, subtract 3 to get 14, multiply 20 by 14 and add 3 squared.
    (a+b)(a-b) = a*a - b*b, thus (a+b)(a-b) + b*b = a*a
    Generally: choose smallest b so that a+b or a-b is a multiple of 10

  • @NotJaydenix
    @NotJaydenix 6 лет назад +7

    0:17 i was told in school a bit ago that the were no patterns to prime numbers

    • @frabol02
      @frabol02 6 лет назад +7

      they lied to you

    • @nathanisbored
      @nathanisbored 6 лет назад +11

      they probably meant that theres no explicit formula to generate the sequence of primes (except something something mill's constant)

    • @NotJaydenix
      @NotJaydenix 6 лет назад +3

      @@nathanisbored yeah i think thats what they meant

    • @avananana
      @avananana 6 лет назад

      TECHNICALLY there is not any pattern. But when we talk about patterns, we mean patterns like the Fibonacci sequence, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8... and so on. Primes doesn't have an algebraic formula to follow, but there are ways to figure out the nth prime number in other ways.
      It really comes down to how you define a pattern though, which is a problem since everyone has unique definitions for just that.

    • @dhay3982
      @dhay3982 6 лет назад

      You can set square root (24*n-1), n positive integer and create a prime sequence, removing irational numbers. It's a pattern, isn't it?

  • @thegabrielchannel818
    @thegabrielchannel818 5 лет назад +4

    6:16 that looked like e (euler’s number) at first.

  • @dakotaroberson9921
    @dakotaroberson9921 6 лет назад +5

    2 squared is 4
    4-1 is 3
    3 is 24×(1/8)
    Not a *whole number* multiple of 24, but close.
    3 squared is 9
    9-1 is 8
    8 is 24*(1/3)
    Not a *whole number* multiple, but close.

  • @milanmitreski7657
    @milanmitreski7657 5 лет назад

    Every prime that is not 3 gives a remainder 1 or 2 (mod 3). It is easy to show that the squares of numbers which give a remainder either 1 or 2 (mod 3) always give remainder 1 (mod 3). Also since every prime except 2 is an odd number, it is also easy to show that a square of any odd number always gives a remainder of 1 (mod 8). At the end, since 3 and 8 are relativley prime we can say that squares of prime numbers bigger than 3 always give remainder of 1 (mod 24) which is equivalent to saying that the squares are in the form 24k+1

  • @WindowsXP_YT
    @WindowsXP_YT 4 года назад +1

    The powers of prime numbers and the numbers that can only be divided by the different prime numbers are very common. For example: 2^x, 6^x, 30^x, 210^x, etc.