the craziest part of it all is that they chose TIKTOK to pretend. the art community there is so toxic, they’ve bullied so many beginner artists off the platform why choose that app😭
tiktok is actually the best art platform for beginner artists now, bc instagram is too toxic and nobody gets noticed on yt! also people will want to comment on tiktok more because ppl can be really close on there stop replying to me guys erm .. ion even use tiktok but insta is more toxic
@@teaa__ i beg to differ, tiktok is VERY toxic, especially in the spanish speaking community (trust me *it's awful* in there) because when you give a character a slightly darker skin color or make them slightly chubbier, they get so mad at you.
@@teaa__I think that tik tok is way more toxic than RUclips and Instagram but really way more. It is true that I have seen times on Instagram where the beginner artists were mocked in the comments but there were actually a lot of people who would defend the artist and in the end the toxic comments can’t even be seen anymore. On RUclips, I think it can be toxic too like yea of course there will be haters but it’s normal there is not one single platform where the hate is 0%. But Tik Tok, it’s too much. They make drama for absolutely anything. They want to cancel people just because they don’t like what they do and the people that are actually problematic can stay. It’s really so stupid. But unfortunately, it is true that a lot of beginner artists would seek to Tik Tok because it is true that it is really easy to gain followers. But does it really matter in the end? I think it is preferable to be on a platform where people are nice even if you don’t get a lot of fame rather than going 1 second on Tik Tok. I wish that Tik Tok could be deleted. People are so toxic since it exists, everything is just bland and everyone just makes some trend just for 2 months and then nobody even remembers this anymore. Thank you for reading my comment, by the way I am sorry if there are any mistakes because English is not my first language.
“I didn’t know how to draw hands so my solution was to not give her any fingers” is the most truest statement. And also hiding the hands behind the characters back :’>
I always draw hands. Even if I can't. When i was 12 or 13 I drew hands, badly, but I drew them anyway because they were needd. Otherwise I could not show what the character was doing.
When I was in middle school, I didn't really "know" about proper joints on character's legs and arms so sometimes the arms would look disproportionately long or would have awkward curves :,3 also I struggled with hair placement for characters whenever they are on side-view, if one of them had bangs, i just placed it on the top of their head 😭My art style also at the time didn't have proper chin(??) so it was even more confusing for me whenever I have to draw characters from the side. I have since improved in both of those aspects but it was just an odd thing young me had lol
Yeah, I'm low-key not upset for real people were most likely upset because they wanted to learn from her but at the end of the day this is how I feel. I want recognition for my art but it's easier said than done. It's easier when you're a beginner honors or when you do different things, but not all the time. Do you have that motivation
her 'beginner' art definitely looks like nyan neko sugar girls- aka trying to emulate 2006 deviantart beginner anime art and not actually being 2006 deviantart beginner anime art
It's really hard to make "beginner" looking art when you actually know how to draw. Same as when it's super obvious in movies or games when there are "child"-drawings that are clearly not drawn by a child :P
Exactly I tried doing a challenge where I drew like younger me but I kept getting the anatomy decent. The issue is younger me didn't have the subconscious knowledge that I now do the muscle memory.
This reminds me of a joke in the office about the same thing, Jim and Pam give out drawings “done by their child”, but the other characters say something along the lines of “wow she has a really good understanding of hatching” or something along those lines because she didn’t draw it!
@@dumbcaydefnfperson sure! it's hard, but not impossible. Besides that, I think it's a good practice (or warmup) to try and draw like a beginner (or child, that's not always the same) it loosens your brain and hand and gives a new perspective on doing your 'regular' art.
Ok but ironically, I understand why people do this. When you’re an intermediate artist & need the most support, your account is invisible. You prob experienced that on IG, right? At least beginners get engagement, even if it’s to insult or laugh, & that attracts ppl who give encouragement
Especially when you just look at the explore you just see ai users when you work at least for hours to make an appealing piece I’m so discouraged right now, it’s true that drawing is fun and I shouldn’t only aim for views and likes but after all you still want any type of motivation which sadly you can’t find it nowadays
Yea I do deviant art since I'm not ready to start doing videos. Me doing deviant was kinda just to test out social media but I still find it a little annoying when i see someone less experienced than me have way more attention.
I think they meant rage bait. The tiktok art community has this nasty habit of making "art lore" and a lot of that is people making stuff on purpose to catch their attention and become art lore, i think that's what they meant by "this wasn't bait". This person seems very young so I hope they can grow from this.
I don't rly think it was rage bait because It wasn't intended to make people mad, I think she was right in wording it as a social experiment since it kinda shows the true colours of tiktok users
Honestly mad respect to that person because they are so real. It's so hard making people notice you and your art unless you're problematic a bait account or in a drama or just draw specific fandoms/comics only and it gets so frustrating to know that no one pays attention to what you love doing and wanting to show others that you spent HOURS for also drawing like a beginner artist when you're actually a knowledgable good artist is such a hard thing to do
she did something wrong, but at the end of the day, she felt bad and apologized. There is NO REASON to criticize and hate on someone after they already feel terrible about it I'm a beginner artist. I forgive her, you should too. To be honest, seeing her fast improvement, I felt more motivated that jealous, but everyone's different
In the end, it's still a kid, there are so many more important things to worry about than a kid doing something “dumb” online, excuses or not, instead of mass-hating or attacking, just criticize their decision, and let this be a learning experience for Candie for when they get older (just my imo on the whole thing)
yeah i agree. i haven't watched the full video yet so idk if they mentioned this but candie apologized, quit that account, and now she has another account where she posts her actual art. i'm mutuals with her on there and she is such a sweet person....i agree that what she did was wrong but she's just a kid and she didn't mean any harm. she doesn't deserve any hate.
I think this is not very different from those "pretending I'm a beginner artist on discord" videos but taking it a little further, the girl probably didn't think it would cause such an impact, personally I don't think it's serious enough to start a wave of hate against her.
Ok, but news flash, she proved her social experiment was RIGHT people DID engage with her WAY more than when she was on her own. She had to lie to get big. that's the problem here, not HER but the ALGORITHM. Tell me how many intermediate artists you see? Then think how many are beginners or professionals? Being intermediate practically makes you a middle child, and I feel we as a community need to talk about this. Candie, in my opinion, is almost innocent simply because all she did was lie. We can sit here and say she shouldn't chase likes yet, its almost required now to have a social platform. I dont blame her for wanting to be seen
@@words0up what harm? If anything caused harm then it's her viewers who compare their art to other people's, not her fault at all, not only that, she proved herself right, people do engage with this stuff more for some reason, she didn't bully or groom anyone, go trget people who actually do that stuff instead of someone who makes u feel insecure about ur art
@@lurqsoul thats the haters personal problem that they hate seeing others improve faster dawg. Even if it wasnt real, it's so silly and not worth getting mad about And also it's not a reason to attack her, such a silly and pointless situation and people are tearing their eyes out over it
This might be a controversial opinion, but I don't think Candie deserves 100% of the hate. I understand that they lied to their audience; however, as an artist, it hurts me that experienced artists don't get the attention they deserve. I understand their frustration of not getting any likes, views, and comments compared to someone who's a beginner artist. It just shows that people tend to follow beginner and young artists (which isn't wrong!), but I think it's unbalanced. I don't know....I just have sympathy for Candie. Also this can be a valuable lesson for fellow artists out there. Please don't only focus on the views, comments, and likes. You will get your audience. You will grow. Perhaps not at the rate you may want but you will get there. Just don't use any harmful "experimental" methods because it can hurt your artistic career. That's just my 50 cents. Side note: I really hope Candie comes back and learn how to enjoy their art without the expectations of likes, comments, and views. Clearly Candie has potential, it's a shame they want to quit entirely...
I feel like her experiment taught us all something. In fact, I think her idea was genius. It shows how TikTok sadly works. I feel all artists deserve all the likes and views. I’m an amateur artist that doesn’t get a lot of likes and I see beginner artists getting a lot of likes. I honestly agree with you
@@HATSUNE_LEO I'm making an example, the person faking being a beginner artist I'm pretty sure is a social expirement and engween also makes social experiments have you not heard of what an example is? Can't even make examples without someone saying "that has nothing to do with this".
they faked being a beginner artist because as an actual artist trying to grow, they did not get attention. from their post it looks like it feels shitty for them that people only start flocking when they had to fake their art. yes what they did is wrong but pesonally i feel bad for them too. social media nowadays sucks for growing artists.
hearing their reasoning for this 19:21 makes me think about how many artists fall into the trap of drawing solely to gain popularity or followers instead of drawing as a passion or for fun and its sad to see how many times it happens. like i get how having a bunch of people see your talent is nice to have but when you start drawing just to gain fame it can burn people out and ruin the fun it used to hold
The thing is that if you're really into something and doing it passionately for a few years, you'll eventually want to turn it into something you can live off. Even when starting solely hobby and non-profit, it takes alot of time and sometimes also serious investment of own money for equipment ect. to pursue something consistenly.
And especially when you're active in the community and see other people start their account and after 1-2 months already get more follow, comments, commissions ect than you do after multiple years, it can feel really disheartening. I've had a similar thing happen with YT, where it starts affecting your motivation and causes self-doubt. Maybe your best is just not good enough or you failed to present your content in any interesting way.
You need attention if you ever want to turn your hobby into a profession, because otherwise you could theoretically improve until you can draw the next mona lisa and no one is ever going to know that the piece even exists. So your only way is to think of ways to make you get more attention. Some artists started doing frequent art giveaways, underpricing their art to literally 5 dollars, advertising their art aggressively, there are even those "art agencies" recently that take advantage of struggling artists and basicly turn them into walking advertisements for twitch and discord. Or some also start drawing adult art in certain niches or generally start going after the latest hot anime, meme or game characters instead of drawing original art. Alot of it sucks and it's hard to truly express yourself, but that's the way social media works. Even Kati does more of the type of videos that manage to take off in views most and less of content, that tanks with low views. When she started with art and social media tutorials she got a few hundreds of views, but then she did 1-2 videos about drama and it received 100x as many views, so now all she does is talk about drama. Fully doing your own thing and still being successful only works in really rare cases, where your own ideas just happen to align exactly with what people are looking for and currently enjoying.
Same here I mean I’m a beginner artist and all i want to do is just draw my ocs in scene clothes and in funny cool poses and just testing out the styles and see what looks good on them or just doing funny poses and memes about them and just wanting to do animation of them
As someone whos being doing art for 8 years now people attacking her for "baiting" is so bs LOL theres way worse things in the world than people "faking to be new" like go actually do something useful its not even drama or bad its just funny lol some people take stuff way too seriously
@@amochikaay its not even a serious lie too like people could be attacking "bad" people (yknow the ones) but instead they go after silly artist posts ☠️
This seems pretty harmless in terms of lying on the internet. Obviously lying isn't great but like I don't think anyone was hurt by this in any meaningful way.
My main issue with it is, imagine seeing this level of progression as a beginner artist. Like, you’re taking years to learn and improve, then you see someone of equal talent improve like this in DAYS. It creates an unrealistic standard of improvement for beginner artists.
@JJayTheGoat you could be right. I guess I've just got the jaded view that maybe not in this case, but there are definitely people out there that just have insane talent and do progress faster/have more innate talent than most. If someone being "unrealisticly" good is all it takes well... the internet is literally worldwide so you're gonna see that top 1% of talent and feel discouraged anyways. I think it's more helpful to support artists of any skill level, than it is to worry about setting unrealistic expectations. Getting caught lying is always gonna be a bad look though .
I can draw okay and this like made me uh like idk sad ? Because even though I feel like the eyes look a bit awkward for the fact they are trying to claim they progressed that fast
@@XxXTaigerLillyXxX I’m not talking about gifted artists. I know there’s really young individuals that develop skills quickly. But there is no human that can go from beginner to advanced in three days. That’s not possible. Learning anatomy and finding your style takes time. They jump from barely even adding shading to full painted rendering in less than a week. That’s completely unrealistic.
As an actual beginner artist, the rushed feeling is definitely right. i’ve been through loads of styles and drawings, but i’ve learned i’m just not good at art, and i’ve accepted it, but i still enjoy drawing. None of my art looks ‘rushed’ as in the hands looking extremely scribbled, etc. i haven’t improved, i never will, but the sheer rate of her improvement isn’t normal unless if she is faking it.
Yes! I do not understand why people are hating on her now, as we should all let these things go. She apologized and explained herself and that’s all.😊 (thank you to everyone who agrees with me)
She was just a child that was incapable of evaluating her art outside of media attention. I don’t think she was truly at fault; and by the end of the day, it really isn’t that serious.
I think people forget that back then people didn't have as much free knowledge and a learning curve as other people but in 2024 you have LOTTTTSS of free art knowledge online and still people learn differently
Mafuyu, Airi, Emu, Shiho, Kohane, Ena, Mizuki, Saki, and Akito, are all from the rhythm game Project Sekai! Not from an anime :) But the game IS an anime game with stories and such! :D
“light work no reaction” when i saw the first few drawings being okay “okay its got a little kick” when i realized they were doing better than my five years
Tbh I'm nowhere near mad or pissed, or anything negative to the artist, we all do experiments at the end of the day (sometimes) because curiosity gets the better of us, and i think them doing the experiment was a some-what success, since they did get a following on their main account because of it, but this shouldn't be the way you should get popular, it's great that they confessed about them not actually being a beginner, and quit the account, because lying will get you insane, so it's great that they did that ^^ at least people know who the real person is to look at their account and see how they're doing.
I agree completely. I don’t see this as a bad thing tbh. “Beginner artist” can be pretty much anyone who’s not a professional. And I understand why they’d post less skilled drawings on social media. Intermediate art accounts become invisible & get almost no engagement. At least beginners get insults & encouragement
This is the same point I was going to make. I do hope candie doesn’t see the hate because it’s so exaggerated. I’ve seen social experiments with edits and photography and I’ve never seen it become so toxic and controversial. It’s probably because Candie was doing art and that the TikTok art community is not known for being nice, art is about expressing yourself and having fun so I understand why she’s upset her main account isn’t getting any sort of traction. Art that doesn’t lean to awful or doesn’t lean to spectacular normally gets very little traction
it's weird, but it's completely harmless. they shouldn't be getting harassed or having hate videos be made on them. artists, don't compare yourself to others. what that person did might be weird, but it's not their fault some people felt bad because they compared their art to the "beginner" when they shouldn't be doing that in the first place
its also not peoples fault if they compare their art its something that you do subconsciously its literally how we learn and comparing data by looking for patterns is how we determine standards and form statistics. if a beginner artist were to take candies alleged progress plus the time it took for them to develop it and compare it to their own theyre gonna feel inferior aboit their skill level and progress rate. not to mention these are typically young people and they cant really understand or somrtimes dont even have the concept of everyones art journey being different. its harmful to these people who dont know any better whether or not harm was done with intent. i agree they dont deserve all the hate but theyre responsible nonetheless
I mean no it’s not completely harmless, the beginners were disappointed with themselves at the fact that candy was improving so fast and it gives them a high chance to quit
@@vampslurmy point still stands tho, they were upset at the fact that she was improving so fast while they were stuck in one place😞 I know it’s not her fault but still
unpopular opinion: I honestly don't find this a big deal. It just seems like a harmless thing someone did out of curiosity 🤷♀ not her fault the tiktok art community is terrible -- they were the ones who got jealous. People having the mindset of being discouraged when they see someone is better than you is not her fault also, someone on instagram did something like this and when they revealed that they were trolling the whole time, everyone loved them
I actually don’t blame Candie, an experiment like this was genuinely needed, it only got bad when actually bait accounts like that came out after candie just for the sake of doing it and not for getting actual info.
No one needed it, in fact it made situations for beginner artists worse. Because of candie a lot of people began to believe that all beginner artists were fake and sent much more threats to them and stuff like "I don't think ur a beginner lol..."
@@buunnbunseriously? Why are you blaming the entirety of some people's bad actions on one person? She made a mistake, right. But that doesn't make it correct for others to run around bashing any other artists for it either. Stop blaming Candie and instead blame those braindead haters. She isn't responsible for other people's bullying, nor did she encourage it. Stop spreading misinformation.
@@buunnbun so? What if it was done on purpose? It can still be a mistake. I didn't say anything about it being an accident. What matters is that she felt bad for it and she didn't do anything wrong. Those crazy TikTokers did, why aren't you targeting them instead? They're the ones doing the boycotting. Not her. Using her as an excuse for bullying is unreasonable and you know it. You're quite unreasonable for targeting a kid that doesn't know better here.
@@totallynotafurry If she didn't do this shit though, none of everything wouldn't happened. She knew all of the consequences and still did it, and even if people weren't bullying beginner artists, multiple beginners felt like they weren't good enough and that they're not progressing fast enough in art because of candie
boosting this because you’re right. they didn’t commit a felony or gr00med anyone yet that’s what everyone is acting like they did… yes, it hurt some people’s feelings and made actual beginners feel inferior to their improvement, etc, etc, but like… they’re probably still a kid if they did this and genuinely didn’t understand things! they apologized and they’re off the platform, so no need to make it a big deal and keep hating on a person who’s gone
It's crazy how I knew exactly who you were talking about from the thumbnail 3:34 you can literally see my comment I didn't even know back then so I just said "beginner artist supporting beginner artists"
The fact that a person pretending to be a beginner got so much love and support but actual beginners get bullied is so frustrating 😭😭😭 Also, the fact that this acc got so much attention while their main genuine acc got no support is also sad 😢
Ik it was fake but the improvement did seem real. I've done art my whole life, and like many artists, I started with traditional pen and paper work and I was doing that for years. The first time I tried digital work was with my phone and finger. With no pen pressure, no knowledge of how to utilize layers and little knowledge of colour theory, my first digital piece looked a lot like the first emu drawing. With a lot of practice, and hours watching youtube tutorials, my digital art drastically improved within a week. Keep in mind I wasn't a beginner at art, just a digital art beginner, so I was already skilled with anatomy and shading.
Yeah, Pewdiepie has mastered drawing anime girls in under 15 hours. He drew for 10 minutes a day for 90 days, which adds up to 15 hours. So, it is definitely possible to improve that fast.
That's actually really true. I do animations for fun every now and then and my animations have gotten much better since when I first started. But they didn't get so much better just because I knew what to do better, it was getting used to the equipment that made the bigger changes. It was still drastic improvement but I usually don't settle on "it's fake" from the speed alone;
@@baiwuli6781 I mean yeah but we saw his process🥹It was such a problem with Candie because all we saw was just image to image of the art getting *1000x* more better each day.
i want all of you to please consider that this is a CHILD i have seen some of the most vile shit being said to this person, when honestly what they did wasnt even that bad??? yeah they made some people feel self conscious and thats not good, but i dont think thats really a reason to go witch hunting her. humans are biologically programmed to crave validation. this isnt something i would do, and i dont think its good, but i also think it can be justified. just my personal opinion
Non-vocaloid fans that call vocaloid anime (even before Hatsune Miku was getting featured as a character IN a few different anime). Aka, this ain’t new.
Y’all stop attacking her about pjsk and Teto 😭 it hurt me too but she also did say that she is trying to pronounce them as good as she can so y’all don’t have to attack her like that 😭😭😭
Emu. Understandable Air-ee. Yeah sure. Teeto. Im dead. Ko-hane. Even more dead. Oh and you got Ena right! I hope i dont sound rude!! Its definitely for the best that you aren't in Vocaloid Gacha Rhythm Game hell!
This girl def doesnt know what anime is, she even has "vtuber" in her ig description and she NEVER used an avatar in any channel, always showed her face 💀💀 whatshedoin
thank you for being so kind about people's art journey. I dunno how to express it properly but it really is nice when artists support new artists or beginner artists without using "bad". :)
Seeing this everyday on digital sculpting groups. "Hello, this is my first sculpt! Hope you like it!! Then shows a full dynamically-posed-enchorchè! Just in search of attention...
As an actual beginner artist who is just trying to get some tips to improve art, these people disgust me trying to squirt that popularity to be popular >:(
I've noticed a few YT videos similar to what Candie was doing. If you search "Pretending to be Beginner/Noob Artist" or "Pretending I suck at art" etc, there are quite a few. They usually post in art discords and offer free/cheap commissions, give the 'bad' beginner art first, and then surprise the commissioner with their actual 'good' art. On one hand, they are giving the person they tricked two art pieces as compensation and they come clean quickly. But it always rubbed me the wrong way that they're essentially jumping into small ponds to be the bigger fish. Kinda like smurfing where, instead of competing against people of their skill level, they're going down to a lower rank to give themselves a huge leg up. And for what really? It's such a weird way to get an ego boost even if it's "just a joke/content, bro"
My theory is they are very insecure in their own art. I find a lot of "mediocre" artists do this, (mediocre as in how they see their own skills) You get praised for being a great artist or being the "best" out of a group. Since they can't be "great", (ie: their skills are not amazing)they decide to be the best "beginner" You'll never see a secure artist who would do this, because while attention on your art is great, drawing is just fun. A mediocre art will get little or no attention in social media BUT PUT it AS A "beginner"/8yr old" and look at all the attention coming.
Weird take, they are giving someone way more than they paid for, I really don't see what the issue there could be. If someone buys a 5$ commission and expects nothing and instead gets drawing by someone a lot more skilled that would be worth a lot more, like... Both the artist and the commissioner win, the artist has fun, good feeling because they gave something out for (nearly) free and they have content to post on yt/other social media. The commissioner wins because they get better art for ridiculously low price. It literally doesn't hurt anyone.
@@vanilla7349 still rubs me the wrong way when people lie about it. if someone were to lie to me about their skill on something and i try my best to encourage and compliment them, id still feel deceived and taken advantage of despite receiving compensation. it wouldnt hurt me but id definitely be pretty upset if my comments were basically for nothing since theyre meant for someone i thought was a beginner. especially since theyre making it because the difference in their scuffed art vs their actual art would no doubt impress me which just feels like ego boosting and im uncomfortable with that to say the least so i wouldnt say its a win for me. it just feels like glorified compliment fishing tbh not that everyone is doing it with that kinda intentions but thats my impression of it which is why it rubs me the wrong way
as someone who is also very sensitive to anger, the artist seems genuinely remorseful and like they were oblivious to the consequences of running this account. please don't jump to conclusions, and try to give them the benefit of the doubt. they clearly already know what they've done is wrong and understand how it is harmful. speaking from experience, they don't want to face the hate because of how sensitive they are to it, but understand why and feel guilty about it. it hurts to see so many people relentlessly shame them despite how they've clearly been mentally affected by the huge wave of criticism and hate. and as someone who has been trying to help my friends work on their art skills, i fully understand how harmful faking progress can be. the #1 obstacle has always been self-inflicted, undeserved criticism, usually from comparing themselves to others. the thought that you're "not good enough" is the easiest way to discourage most from improving. i understand that the unrealistic rate at which this artist "improved" demotivated countless artists. but they fully understand this, so please be more forgiving. thank you 💕
I really needed the lines from 20:00 to 21secs, thank you. Although it probably was't aimed and I watched this video out of curiosity it really pushed me.
Her saying she doesn’t like doing art on her normal account with 52 followers. I have only 155 subscribers on this account, but I also know most of those 155 people were 8-10 y/os just like me when most people subbed. I have never really cared too much about posting or getting views. I think your art improves and feels better when you don’t let views and likes dictate how you feel about your work! It sucks that so many artists fall into this trap of wanting likes and views and lose what they like.
Yeah my insta has 150 followers and I used to post vocaloid art frequently, I don’t post as much as I used to and sure I wished I had more followers or a acknowledgment but it’s not a big deal to me or I haven’t been inspired to draw anything for the past year since my family has a lot of big changes coming soon and I used to be on amino when it was still good posting a lot more there and a better community of people with the same interests as me, I have improved a lot over the years and cuz for the past seven years I been drawing nearly every day
And she seems like a genuine good person. Maybe her very quick "improvement" made some people insecure about their art but she didn't mean to go so far
It dont matter how fast but how efficient Anyone with proper training or guiding can triple their artwork quality but they better get used being alone against the whole world
I totally understand why candi did this, it sucks they felt the need to do it tho. Comparison will happen in the art community no matter what, its not her fault beginners compared themselves to her.
Your short speech at the end was actually really nice. I've been comparing my art to other artists a lot lately, as I'm sure are other artists aswell. But you're right, everyone has a different journey and the important thing is to remember that progress is always progress. Thanks
It feels wrong but I'm actually kinda glad that Candie did this. It brought this topic to the attention of a lot of people. I always feel like people are too extreme, on both sides, when it comes to beginner art.
This is a nothing issue. It's because people are jealous of beginner artists and pay attention to them to see if they don't as fast as them. Artists are toxic af I hate our community
Most people were being supportive, how is that jealousy? Sometimes watching people noticeably improve is satisfying, especially when it seems like they're putting in the commitment and effort.
@@Valentina-kf3mmthey were trying to see peoples reactions to them improving their art pretty quickly and I guess how much more followers that would get compared to her other account that didn’t have many followers even though she posted her most recent artworks
Yea nah this honestly proved to me just how far the art community on tt will go to bully someone considering so many people have done the same thing and this person is the one everyone is shitting on
I once did an art social experiment, but nothing like this. For five drawings, I drew characters more 'scandalous" than I'd normally draw. I needed to know if my viewership and interaction numbers went up if I did. And yeah... they did SIGNIFICANTLY. I could've let that decide how I'd pursue art from that point on, but opted to stick true to what I wanted to create with my skills.
I've seen people with no skill getting more attention than people with ~medium skill, so that person's idea to pretend that they're worse than they really are was quite an easy way to get the audience
And what i learn from this situation. Getting attention from clout or drama made by yourself will never worth it. Either you will feel guilty or horrible because people will stop supporting and even hating you once they knew your real motives. Just be grateful for your organic followers, might not a lot, but at least that means they support/acknowledge you. Attention feels good, sure, but will not last forever. Loyal supporters, though, sounds hotter to me.
When your a beginner artist, it may take years to be satisfied with your drawings, but lying that your drawing change so much in two or three days, that's impossible, but yes it can change, but not that much. Support for all artist 🎉
It's has taken me like 8 years to improve. And I'm still not satisfied with my art. Btw don't ask. But 20:15 this part is true. I'm very envious of people my age-
Btw the ones with the clouds are from the music video called "mesmeriser" sung by vocaloids and the others are from a rhythm game called Project Sekai Colorful stage
Beginners may have "unappealing" art, but they put actual effort in it and it looks more complete. You'll notice more brush strokes, more colors, and at least attempts to fix anatomy so it doesn't look alien-like. Those looked lazy and drawn in 30 seconds. Another problem (idk if it's related enough to mention) is compliment-fishing by saying "I'm so ugly! (shows a thirst trap)" "I ruined my hair (proceeds to show beautiful hair)" "Rate me! It's alr if you say 1"
I'm always worried about coming off as þe latter tbh, þough by now i cant bring myself to share anyþing wiþ oþers due to þese fears, because i stare and overþink for so long þat i cant tell how bad or good it is at all and i remember all my old drawings þat looked good to me back þen but now i see all þe mistakes, so i assume þe worst and stating it explicitly makes me feel at least kind of safer and less foolish Obviously þere are people using to intentionally get compliments etc., but i feel like it can be a common defense mechanism in general, eiþer just low self-esteem and self-critisism, or for me at least I often feel like on one hand I may actually like it in some way and want to share þat, but also afraid þat it's actually horrible and plainly visible to oþers but not me, and if I don't at least say þat I "know" þat in advance, I just feel like þe most delusional silent laughingstock. Idk þis also got very unrelated probably lmao
I can somewhat differentiate serious beginner art from purposefully bad art. I can pretty much tell these drawings are intentionally bad because they look like the ironic Sans fangirl artstyle.
havent watched it in full yet but pretending to be a beginner? honestly it would feel refreshing as hell no thoughts just draw dont think about making things perfect just let yourself loose
I understand their frustration tho, hope her actual art gets more traction but also for them not to do it again. They may have hurt it for actual beginners...
ngl, I saw the project sekai/vocaloid character on the thumbnail, I clicked quicker than I ever did It was a bit hard hearing all the names being... quite scorched ^^" But it's okay, I understand that most poeple don't know about the game, it's popular but only within it's niche
I think the whole situation is stupid. Like… why would you get mad at someone for pretending to be terrible at drawing but actually is actually good at it?
cuz people were genuinely rooting for their improvement so to find out that their support wasnt going towards someone who was actually a beginner but rather a skilled artist some people cant help but feel upset. its false advertising, marketing yourself as lower value brings about a target audience with that preference which is why faking it gives the impression of having ulterior motives in gaining their trust. in this case candie marketed their account as a begginner artist bringing about an audience who wants to support beginner artists and see them grow. seeing that the progress that was shown to them was fabricated would reasonably lead them to believe candie had a motive for lying which is to gain attention and people just dont want to feed into that. overall this practice is just disingenuous and fraudulent
@@shxki.vhow is it fraudulent, they weren’t making money in ANY way. Honestly I dont care at least they dont touch kids! Seriously go outside and touch grass
I really get the feeling of putting your soul on a piece that doesn't get seen by anyone. When a bait gets you more attention than your normal art does, it's rubbing salt to the wound. Being an artist online is hard, but I hope those who feel the same keep going. If you love what you do, that love will reach someone, even if it takes a while.
As someone who is struggling so hard with learning art and hating that I haven't improved a lot it's sad to see things like this. It breaks my heart and makes me think I'll never get there.
@@MissesXoX whether or not someone wants to jump off a cliff because of a video is none of ur damn business you dont know what theyre going through to feel that way and being in a similar skill level certainly does not grant you the right to compare your experiences and putting others down because you didnt have as much of a reaction than them. op is feeling bad and youre here invalidating their feelings because youre like "im also a beginner and i didnt react like that so others must be wrong for feeling that way"
@Nyomaa because they can?? its their feelings not yours. just because it was a social experiment doesnt make it less hurtful?? thats like saying it was just a prank bro when damage had been done. some people are just more sensitive tp these kinda stuff and its literally not their fault for being that way.
Tbh Candy doesn't even look THAT experienced to me. Okay! she knows something about the basics, as an example, colors, but i felt like people ignored a LOT of stuff, one, she was COPYING and referencing images, and two, she literally posts gacha life edit images on her main account. 💀 I used to be a gacha life editor and that rlly helped me understanding a bit about how lighting works n stuff. Of course it's obvious that they were faking being a baby newborn artist, but it's clear they're still beginners learning because they still commit mistakes, you don't need to draw like a 5 year old to be a beginner and i feel like people ignore that a lot.
@@skulkrr I'm talking about the fact that she edits/paints over gacha screenshots, idk how to explain it but it's usually like adding shine to the hair, eyes, etc.. Like rendering! That could also explain why she has knowledge of one or two things about digital art.
I honestly feel bad for them, yes they hurt people and lied about being a beginner. But I kinda feel like making hate videos about them is honestly ridiculous. I do understand people are upset, but I still find it ridiculous to make actual hate videos about someone who lied about being a beginner artist. Not something I would go out of my way to hate on. But they did do this to the art community on tiktok, so it's not really surprising people are doing all of that (Yes I am aware I basically just repeated myself a bunch, I'm honestly not good with writing or making stuff that makes sense a majority of the time)
Tbh I don't really blame her for trying this. On tiktok, the art community only ever seems to circle around brand new artists in terms of community engagement. Why does this happen? Probably for a few reasons; maybe people empathize with beginners more often, maybe because seeing beginners who they think are worse than them is an ego boost so its easier to engage, maybe they assume that they're closer in age, I dunno. But as someone who's more advanced but not professional, I'd dream of getting this level of engagement on my own art, and I very much noticed that the engagement severely decreased the better I got over the years, until eventually it stifled. She proved herself right, though I also have a feeling that as she goes back to her own art, she'll be even more deflated because she realizes it's very much a losing game after a certain point. I sympathize with her.
to me it sounds like a kid who wanted attention since their actual art wasnt receiving any, and when everything blew up they werent equipped to handle all of the criticism that came their way. you know tiktok just cant be normal, they flood comment sections and private messages. when i was 12 i think i faked being a boy in amino cause i was convinced they received more attention for like a week. i became relatively popular in a niche place, then got scared people would find out and disappeared. if i were to be exposed i would said just that, "it was a social experiment!" but it was more because i was fed up that my efforts were ignored (funny enough, i ended up being a trans guy). maybe im just projecting, but it feels like something similar to me.
"It was a social experiment" seems to be one of the most common go-to lies for people who get caught in the act doing shitty stuff like this. :/ Also, "hate is valid" and "I'm sensitive to hate" feels a lot like "you can be mad but I don't wanna deal with the consequences of my own actions," especially when there's a distinct difference between "hate" and people calling out your shitty behavior. Like this is legitimately such weird behavior. Faking an art trade? Pretending to be a beginner?? Why??? I know they said why but like...why this specifically??? This is so bizarre. If you're art isn't getting a lot of engagement, maybe change platforms or rethink how you're advertising it or putting it out there??? That seems the more logical leap???? Idk man, this is just so dumb, and also harmful to less experienced artists, as you pointed out. I wouldn't consider myself a beginner artist but I'm definitely leagues from getting as good as your "current" like the example you showed in this video, and I struggle with my inner critic a LOT when it comes to my art. Right now, I'm still drawing a lot like how I drew 7 years ago, and I feel like I should have improved so much more by now (which actually doesn't make sense bc I don't draw a whole lot), and if I'd seen this and made the assumption that this person could improve that quickly, yeah, it would've fucked me up pretty badly. Pulling shit like this is at least just as bad as bad art "advice" because it sets up unrealistic expectations for beginners who don't know better, and that crushes creativity faster than anything else I know.
In my opinion, while it is really weird to pretend to be a beginner, having your whole account be a lie, have people defending you from toxicity and people rooting for you meanwhile there's real beginners who will feel bad that you are improving more than them. I just find it laughably unnecessary? But also I can't help but feel bad for this kid The algorithm is terrible towards artists and you kinda have to do anything and everything to gain fame, pretending like you don't know how to draw is the least serious one.
It's like they're learning 50 new things per drawing and doing it perfectly from there on forward, when in reality it's hard to even remember 5 new things everytime you draw without multiple repetitions.
I feel like the art community shouldn’t coddle beginner artists but also shouldn’t bully them 🤷♀️ like if it’s bad and their cocky don’t let the embarrass themselves- but also don’t tell them to end themselves
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the craziest part of it all is that they chose TIKTOK to pretend. the art community there is so toxic, they’ve bullied so many beginner artists off the platform why choose that app😭
Social experiment...
tiktok is actually the best art platform for beginner artists now, bc instagram is too toxic and nobody gets noticed on yt! also people will want to comment on tiktok more because ppl can be really close on there
stop replying to me guys erm .. ion even use tiktok but insta is more toxic
@@teaa__ how can you get close in a app that shows you 15000 videos in 3 secs
@@teaa__ i beg to differ, tiktok is VERY toxic, especially in the spanish speaking community (trust me *it's awful* in there) because when you give a character a slightly darker skin color or make them slightly chubbier, they get so mad at you.
@@teaa__I think that tik tok is way more toxic than RUclips and Instagram but really way more. It is true that I have seen times on Instagram where the beginner artists were mocked in the comments but there were actually a lot of people who would defend the artist and in the end the toxic comments can’t even be seen anymore. On RUclips, I think it can be toxic too like yea of course there will be haters but it’s normal there is not one single platform where the hate is 0%. But Tik Tok, it’s too much. They make drama for absolutely anything. They want to cancel people just because they don’t like what they do and the people that are actually problematic can stay. It’s really so stupid. But unfortunately, it is true that a lot of beginner artists would seek to Tik Tok because it is true that it is really easy to gain followers. But does it really matter in the end? I think it is preferable to be on a platform where people are nice even if you don’t get a lot of fame rather than going 1 second on Tik Tok. I wish that Tik Tok could be deleted. People are so toxic since it exists, everything is just bland and everyone just makes some trend just for 2 months and then nobody even remembers this anymore.
Thank you for reading my comment, by the way I am sorry if there are any mistakes because English is not my first language.
“I didn’t know how to draw hands so my solution was to not give her any fingers” is the most truest statement. And also hiding the hands behind the characters back :’>
So accurate! 😂 I didn't know how to draw the top of a cat or wolf's head, so I just gave them fluffy hair.
Im so terrible at hands yet I include them in every art I do even tho i try to keep them out 😭
I always draw hands. Even if I can't.
When i was 12 or 13 I drew hands, badly, but I drew them anyway because they were needd. Otherwise I could not show what the character was doing.
When I was in middle school, I didn't really "know" about proper joints on character's legs and arms so sometimes the arms would look disproportionately long or would have awkward curves :,3
also I struggled with hair placement for characters whenever they are on side-view, if one of them had bangs, i just placed it on the top of their head 😭My art style also at the time didn't have proper chin(??) so it was even more confusing for me whenever I have to draw characters from the side. I have since improved in both of those aspects but it was just an odd thing young me had lol
Ibispaint hand template thingy >>>>>>>
Honestly an experiment like this was needed and it shows really just how toxic the art community can be :/
Fr
Yeah, I'm low-key not upset for real people were most likely upset because they wanted to learn from her but at the end of the day this is how I feel. I want recognition for my art but it's easier said than done. It's easier when you're a beginner honors or when you do different things, but not all the time. Do you have that motivation
her 'beginner' art definitely looks like nyan neko sugar girls- aka trying to emulate 2006 deviantart beginner anime art and not actually being 2006 deviantart beginner anime art
NO NOT NYAN NEKO SUGAR GIRLS
*smokes cigar*
"Nyan Neko Sugar Girls? I haven't heard that name in years..."
@veryrandomcommenternahh
@veryrandomcommenter its a masterpiece
@veryrandomcommenter should I go look at it?
It's really hard to make "beginner" looking art when you actually know how to draw. Same as when it's super obvious in movies or games when there are "child"-drawings that are clearly not drawn by a child :P
Exactly I tried doing a challenge where I drew like younger me but I kept getting the anatomy decent.
The issue is younger me didn't have the subconscious knowledge that I now do the muscle memory.
This reminds me of a joke in the office about the same thing, Jim and Pam give out drawings “done by their child”, but the other characters say something along the lines of “wow she has a really good understanding of hatching” or something along those lines because she didn’t draw it!
Nyan neko sugar girls is VERY well done when it looks like it was drawn by a beginner even though it's done by a pro artist
@@dumbcaydefnfperson sure! it's hard, but not impossible. Besides that, I think it's a good practice (or warmup) to try and draw like a beginner (or child, that's not always the same) it loosens your brain and hand and gives a new perspective on doing your 'regular' art.
"It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child.”
-Picasso
I never thought I'd hear anyone say Teto as "tee-toe"
real!!1!!!1!1
josip broz tito!!!!
It isn't pronounced that way? I'm confused lol
@@wenyuxu2684its pronounced teh-toh
@@wenyuxu2684 HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SAYING TEE TO???? good god- 😭
Ok but ironically, I understand why people do this. When you’re an intermediate artist & need the most support, your account is invisible. You prob experienced that on IG, right? At least beginners get engagement, even if it’s to insult or laugh, & that attracts ppl who give encouragement
Yeah, when I used to be "bad" at art I used to get more attention and support than I do now
Especially when you just look at the explore you just see ai users when you work at least for hours to make an appealing piece
I’m so discouraged right now, it’s true that drawing is fun and I shouldn’t only aim for views and likes but after all you still want any type of motivation which sadly you can’t find it nowadays
1000%
Yea I do deviant art since I'm not ready to start doing videos. Me doing deviant was kinda just to test out social media but I still find it a little annoying when i see someone less experienced than me have way more attention.
As a beginner artist even my shit art doesn't get any engagement lol. I think it's bad to make art solely to get views on social media
“This wasn’t bait” but also “I did this because my main art account didn’t get attention” like-- that’s just bait with extra wording
Ikr 😢
I think they meant rage bait. The tiktok art community has this nasty habit of making "art lore" and a lot of that is people making stuff on purpose to catch their attention and become art lore, i think that's what they meant by "this wasn't bait". This person seems very young so I hope they can grow from this.
Well that sounds like a social experiment to me…
bait means a troll, it's not the same thing as doing it for attention.
I don't rly think it was rage bait because It wasn't intended to make people mad, I think she was right in wording it as a social experiment since it kinda shows the true colours of tiktok users
Honestly mad respect to that person because they are so real. It's so hard making people notice you and your art unless you're problematic a bait account or in a drama or just draw specific fandoms/comics only and it gets so frustrating to know that no one pays attention to what you love doing and wanting to show others that you spent HOURS for also drawing like a beginner artist when you're actually a knowledgable good artist is such a hard thing to do
reall
Fr
The way you pronounce kohane sounds like cocaine 😭
THIS MADE ME GIGGLE
i love "kohane"
@@Keep_Cozy appropriate
@@Luigi_bros4321appropriate
When I first got Project Sekai I thought it was Kohæn and I immediately thought of drugs 😭
There is an artist who do it as prank, basically, they ask one person for tip, draw bad, then make a second art of the person oc
It's wholesome
I need to know who that is
@@Lord_X_lmao "pretending I SUCK at drawing, then drawing them" by Orb
Orb has a right rn.
Atleast theyre being sweet unlike candie
I thought this post was about them for a sec, love their vids, def wholesome aha
she did something wrong, but at the end of the day, she felt bad and apologized. There is NO REASON to criticize and hate on someone after they already feel terrible about it
I'm a beginner artist. I forgive her, you should too. To be honest, seeing her fast improvement, I felt more motivated that jealous, but everyone's different
Best take
In the end, it's still a kid, there are so many more important things to worry about than a kid doing something “dumb” online, excuses or not, instead of mass-hating or attacking, just criticize their decision, and let this be a learning experience for Candie for when they get older (just my imo on the whole thing)
rui pfp
@@tyspaws :3
yeah i agree. i haven't watched the full video yet so idk if they mentioned this but candie apologized, quit that account, and now she has another account where she posts her actual art. i'm mutuals with her on there and she is such a sweet person....i agree that what she did was wrong but she's just a kid and she didn't mean any harm. she doesn't deserve any hate.
i agree and she seems so sweet
exactly!!!! i just feel bad for her
I think this is not very different from those "pretending I'm a beginner artist on discord" videos but taking it a little further, the girl probably didn't think it would cause such an impact, personally I don't think it's serious enough to start a wave of hate against her.
Right honestly I find those just as annoying
Agreed!
But why’s that actually true?😅 “no hate”
doko demo issyo spotted
Ok, but news flash, she proved her social experiment was RIGHT people DID engage with her WAY more than when she was on her own. She had to lie to get big. that's the problem here, not HER but the ALGORITHM. Tell me how many intermediate artists you see? Then think how many are beginners or professionals? Being intermediate practically makes you a middle child, and I feel we as a community need to talk about this. Candie, in my opinion, is almost innocent simply because all she did was lie. We can sit here and say she shouldn't chase likes yet, its almost required now to have a social platform. I dont blame her for wanting to be seen
FOR REAL???? She didn't deserve the hate either, it was such a silly thing
Real
Nah still caused real harm
@@words0up what harm? If anything caused harm then it's her viewers who compare their art to other people's, not her fault at all, not only that, she proved herself right, people do engage with this stuff more for some reason, she didn't bully or groom anyone, go trget people who actually do that stuff instead of someone who makes u feel insecure about ur art
@@lurqsoul thats the haters personal problem that they hate seeing others improve faster dawg. Even if it wasnt real, it's so silly and not worth getting mad about
And also it's not a reason to attack her, such a silly and pointless situation and people are tearing their eyes out over it
This might be a controversial opinion, but I don't think Candie deserves 100% of the hate. I understand that they lied to their audience; however, as an artist, it hurts me that experienced artists don't get the attention they deserve. I understand their frustration of not getting any likes, views, and comments compared to someone who's a beginner artist. It just shows that people tend to follow beginner and young artists (which isn't wrong!), but I think it's unbalanced. I don't know....I just have sympathy for Candie. Also this can be a valuable lesson for fellow artists out there. Please don't only focus on the views, comments, and likes. You will get your audience. You will grow. Perhaps not at the rate you may want but you will get there. Just don't use any harmful "experimental" methods because it can hurt your artistic career. That's just my 50 cents.
Side note: I really hope Candie comes back and learn how to enjoy their art without the expectations of likes, comments, and views. Clearly Candie has potential, it's a shame they want to quit entirely...
I feel like her experiment taught us all something. In fact, I think her idea was genius. It shows how TikTok sadly works. I feel all artists deserve all the likes and views. I’m an amateur artist that doesn’t get a lot of likes and I see beginner artists getting a lot of likes.
I honestly agree with you
I agree. it was definitely an experiment that showed results
You know it's not different then engween making social expirments.
@@Anti_TOXICFurry this person never said they watched engween
@@HATSUNE_LEO I'm making an example, the person faking being a beginner artist I'm pretty sure is a social expirement and engween also makes social experiments have you not heard of what an example is? Can't even make examples without someone saying "that has nothing to do with this".
people like that fake being a "beginner artist" take away attention/attraction from actual artist that are actually trying to grow
they were doing a social test
@@WildplanetIsTotallyNotHere
&? Not only was it not convincing (so the results are being skewed), it was just a shitty excuse in general
Bruh it's just algorithm. Stop blaming innocent artists
they faked being a beginner artist because as an actual artist trying to grow, they did not get attention. from their post it looks like it feels shitty for them that people only start flocking when they had to fake their art. yes what they did is wrong but pesonally i feel bad for them too. social media nowadays sucks for growing artists.
@@Bleh_exxec they said it in one of their “apology videos” but idk
hearing their reasoning for this 19:21 makes me think about how many artists fall into the trap of drawing solely to gain popularity or followers instead of drawing as a passion or for fun and its sad to see how many times it happens. like i get how having a bunch of people see your talent is nice to have but when you start drawing just to gain fame it can burn people out and ruin the fun it used to hold
The thing is that if you're really into something and doing it passionately for a few years, you'll eventually want to turn it into something you can live off. Even when starting solely hobby and non-profit, it takes alot of time and sometimes also serious investment of own money for equipment ect. to pursue something consistenly.
And especially when you're active in the community and see other people start their account and after 1-2 months already get more follow, comments, commissions ect than you do after multiple years, it can feel really disheartening. I've had a similar thing happen with YT, where it starts affecting your motivation and causes self-doubt. Maybe your best is just not good enough or you failed to present your content in any interesting way.
You need attention if you ever want to turn your hobby into a profession, because otherwise you could theoretically improve until you can draw the next mona lisa and no one is ever going to know that the piece even exists. So your only way is to think of ways to make you get more attention. Some artists started doing frequent art giveaways, underpricing their art to literally 5 dollars, advertising their art aggressively, there are even those "art agencies" recently that take advantage of struggling artists and basicly turn them into walking advertisements for twitch and discord. Or some also start drawing adult art in certain niches or generally start going after the latest hot anime, meme or game characters instead of drawing original art.
Alot of it sucks and it's hard to truly express yourself, but that's the way social media works. Even Kati does more of the type of videos that manage to take off in views most and less of content, that tanks with low views. When she started with art and social media tutorials she got a few hundreds of views, but then she did 1-2 videos about drama and it received 100x as many views, so now all she does is talk about drama. Fully doing your own thing and still being successful only works in really rare cases, where your own ideas just happen to align exactly with what people are looking for and currently enjoying.
@@evilemodieded exactly what I'm trying to tell everyone but they said I'm spitting bs and being overly "dramatic".
Same here I mean I’m a beginner artist and all i want to do is just draw my ocs in scene clothes and in funny cool poses and just testing out the styles and see what looks good on them or just doing funny poses and memes about them and just wanting to do animation of them
As someone whos being doing art for 8 years now people attacking her for "baiting" is so bs LOL theres way worse things in the world than people "faking to be new" like go actually do something useful its not even drama or bad its just funny lol some people take stuff way too seriously
Ikr😭😭😭
exactly oh my god
yeah like lying on the internet?? nobody ever does that!/s
@@amochikaay its not even a serious lie too like people could be attacking "bad" people (yknow the ones) but instead they go after silly artist posts ☠️
Ikr
This seems pretty harmless in terms of lying on the internet. Obviously lying isn't great but like I don't think anyone was hurt by this in any meaningful way.
My main issue with it is, imagine seeing this level of progression as a beginner artist. Like, you’re taking years to learn and improve, then you see someone of equal talent improve like this in DAYS. It creates an unrealistic standard of improvement for beginner artists.
@JJayTheGoat you could be right. I guess I've just got the jaded view that maybe not in this case, but there are definitely people out there that just have insane talent and do progress faster/have more innate talent than most. If someone being "unrealisticly" good is all it takes well... the internet is literally worldwide so you're gonna see that top 1% of talent and feel discouraged anyways. I think it's more helpful to support artists of any skill level, than it is to worry about setting unrealistic expectations.
Getting caught lying is always gonna be a bad look though .
I can draw okay and this like made me uh like idk sad ? Because even though I feel like the eyes look a bit awkward for the fact they are trying to claim they progressed that fast
@@XxXTaigerLillyXxX
I’m not talking about gifted artists. I know there’s really young individuals that develop skills quickly. But there is no human that can go from beginner to advanced in three days. That’s not possible. Learning anatomy and finding your style takes time. They jump from barely even adding shading to full painted rendering in less than a week. That’s completely unrealistic.
@@JJayTheGoat 💀
As an actual beginner artist, the rushed feeling is definitely right. i’ve been through loads of styles and drawings, but i’ve learned i’m just not good at art, and i’ve accepted it, but i still enjoy drawing. None of my art looks ‘rushed’ as in the hands looking extremely scribbled, etc. i haven’t improved, i never will, but the sheer rate of her improvement isn’t normal unless if she is faking it.
kat calling pjsk characters anime physically hurt me 💀
Same😭
Same here 😭
Same 😭🙏 get it right
Get your characters straight, kat!
Star Guardian Lux 💀💀
Another wild story They admitted their mistakes and moved on - hope they find their way to be happy with their art
Yes! I do not understand why people are hating on her now, as we should all let these things go. She apologized and explained herself and that’s all.😊 (thank you to everyone who agrees with me)
@@star_crystal12Right!
@@star_crystal12it wasn’t even that deep
what mistakes anyways? she honestly did nothing wrong nor hurt anyone. so what if she "lied"? that's not a big deal lol
they *were* happy with their art. they werent happy about the attention
0:44 WILL WOOD MENTIONED
Where, I don't see it...
@@WillWoodEnjoyer69 tape emoji worm emoji
OMG!!!
@@severinokickgod oh shit, and the moon and rat emojis
WILL WOOD!!
you did not have to do teto's name dirty like that💀
ONG I LEGIT SLAMMED MY HEAD INTO A WALL
Teeto
☕️🦶
Tea-toe
TITO?
I CRIED
She was just a child that was incapable of evaluating her art outside of media attention. I don’t think she was truly at fault; and by the end of the day, it really isn’t that serious.
FR!! People attack others for the silliest reasons, and meanwhile actual bad people go unnoticed
I mean it's tiktok
Everyone take everything too seriously
I think people forget that back then people didn't have as much free knowledge and a learning curve as other people but in 2024 you have LOTTTTSS of free art knowledge online and still people learn differently
sorry but the way she pronounces teto is so funny to me 😭😭😭😭
pronouncing teto with 2 e's is hillarious
“tea toe” 😭😭😭😭
I find it cute😭😭
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Ngl I used to say it that way too until a random RUclips short enlightened me.
Mafuyu, Airi, Emu, Shiho, Kohane, Ena, Mizuki, Saki, and Akito, are all from the rhythm game Project Sekai! Not from an anime :) But the game IS an anime game with stories and such! :D
They're getting an anime movie soon in 2025
@@wan11k omg i’m so excited for it
i love animals
OMG REALLY?? I’m tweaking out
“light work no reaction” when i saw the first few drawings being okay
“okay its got a little kick” when i realized they were doing better than my five years
Tbh I'm nowhere near mad or pissed, or anything negative to the artist, we all do experiments at the end of the day (sometimes) because curiosity gets the better of us, and i think them doing the experiment was a some-what success, since they did get a following on their main account because of it, but this shouldn't be the way you should get popular, it's great that they confessed about them not actually being a beginner, and quit the account, because lying will get you insane, so it's great that they did that ^^ at least people know who the real person is to look at their account and see how they're doing.
I agree completely. I don’t see this as a bad thing tbh. “Beginner artist” can be pretty much anyone who’s not a professional. And I understand why they’d post less skilled drawings on social media. Intermediate art accounts become invisible & get almost no engagement. At least beginners get insults & encouragement
This is the same point I was going to make. I do hope candie doesn’t see the hate because it’s so exaggerated. I’ve seen social experiments with edits and photography and I’ve never seen it become so toxic and controversial. It’s probably because Candie was doing art and that the TikTok art community is not known for being nice, art is about expressing yourself and having fun so I understand why she’s upset her main account isn’t getting any sort of traction. Art that doesn’t lean to awful or doesn’t lean to spectacular normally gets very little traction
it's weird, but it's completely harmless. they shouldn't be getting harassed or having hate videos be made on them. artists, don't compare yourself to others. what that person did might be weird, but it's not their fault some people felt bad because they compared their art to the "beginner" when they shouldn't be doing that in the first place
its also not peoples fault if they compare their art its something that you do subconsciously its literally how we learn and comparing data by looking for patterns is how we determine standards and form statistics. if a beginner artist were to take candies alleged progress plus the time it took for them to develop it and compare it to their own theyre gonna feel inferior aboit their skill level and progress rate. not to mention these are typically young people and they cant really understand or somrtimes dont even have the concept of everyones art journey being different. its harmful to these people who dont know any better whether or not harm was done with intent. i agree they dont deserve all the hate but theyre responsible nonetheless
I mean no it’s not completely harmless, the beginners were disappointed with themselves at the fact that candy was improving so fast and it gives them a high chance to quit
@@Millennialtreesleftfoot but thats not the creators fault nor what the creator meant to do.
@@Millennialtreesleftfoot cant edit my other comment but not to mention most beginners compare themselves to others regardless of anything.
@@vampslurmy point still stands tho, they were upset at the fact that she was improving so fast while they were stuck in one place😞 I know it’s not her fault but still
Improvement bait is wild. If you're gonna bait, bait right. Impatience was their biggest enemy
ngl yeah if they did it really slow nobody wouldve noticed
unpopular opinion:
I honestly don't find this a big deal. It just seems like a harmless thing someone did out of curiosity 🤷♀ not her fault the tiktok art community is terrible -- they were the ones who got jealous. People having the mindset of being discouraged when they see someone is better than you is not her fault
also, someone on instagram did something like this and when they revealed that they were trolling the whole time, everyone loved them
Yep i agree
this is actually a popular opinion
STOPP IK EXACTLY WHO ON INSTA YOURE TALKING ABOUT
how did the INSTAGRAM community manage to be nicer they will literally comment on a child’s post telling them to oil up
literally😭😭 this is so nothingburger
I actually don’t blame Candie, an experiment like this was genuinely needed, it only got bad when actually bait accounts like that came out after candie just for the sake of doing it and not for getting actual info.
No one needed it, in fact it made situations for beginner artists worse. Because of candie a lot of people began to believe that all beginner artists were fake and sent much more threats to them and stuff like "I don't think ur a beginner lol..."
@@buunnbunseriously? Why are you blaming the entirety of some people's bad actions on one person? She made a mistake, right. But that doesn't make it correct for others to run around bashing any other artists for it either. Stop blaming Candie and instead blame those braindead haters. She isn't responsible for other people's bullying, nor did she encourage it. Stop spreading misinformation.
@@totallynotafurry "she made a mistake" it wasn't a mistake if it was done on purpose
@@buunnbun so? What if it was done on purpose? It can still be a mistake. I didn't say anything about it being an accident. What matters is that she felt bad for it and she didn't do anything wrong. Those crazy TikTokers did, why aren't you targeting them instead? They're the ones doing the boycotting. Not her. Using her as an excuse for bullying is unreasonable and you know it. You're quite unreasonable for targeting a kid that doesn't know better here.
@@totallynotafurry If she didn't do this shit though, none of everything wouldn't happened. She knew all of the consequences and still did it, and even if people weren't bullying beginner artists, multiple beginners felt like they weren't good enough and that they're not progressing fast enough in art because of candie
Im actually really disappointed to hear that she was faking it, i was kinda excited to see her art journey
Hot take: it wasnt that big of a deal
people are acting as if they did something terrible to someone but its really not that deep
Exactly
boosting this because you’re right. they didn’t commit a felony or gr00med anyone yet that’s what everyone is acting like they did… yes, it hurt some people’s feelings and made actual beginners feel inferior to their improvement, etc, etc, but like… they’re probably still a kid if they did this and genuinely didn’t understand things! they apologized and they’re off the platform, so no need to make it a big deal and keep hating on a person who’s gone
That's what I'm thinking.
literally like 😭 everyone’s so mad for what
Bro, yall need to chill. Yes, she pronounced things wrong, but ngl the video isn't about the characters, so it kinda doesnt matter.
nobody is mad bru we just being sillay
@@noemiz8241not everyone lol
I’m just laughing at the fact that she called teto teetoe😭😭😭
This, as ear bleeding as it is, it's not her fault that she mispronounced the names of characters she does NOT know
Kohæne
It's crazy how I knew exactly who you were talking about from the thumbnail 3:34 you can literally see my comment I didn't even know back then so I just said "beginner artist supporting beginner artists"
The fact that a person pretending to be a beginner got so much love and support but actual beginners get bullied is so frustrating 😭😭😭 Also, the fact that this acc got so much attention while their main genuine acc got no support is also sad 😢
Krew fan?
like people expect beginners to visit *freaking Louvre* and start making Vinci remakes in an hour, too high
AYYYE KREW FAN
KREW FAMM
KREW fan spotted
Ik it was fake but the improvement did seem real.
I've done art my whole life, and like many artists, I started with traditional pen and paper work and I was doing that for years. The first time I tried digital work was with my phone and finger. With no pen pressure, no knowledge of how to utilize layers and little knowledge of colour theory, my first digital piece looked a lot like the first emu drawing. With a lot of practice, and hours watching youtube tutorials, my digital art drastically improved within a week.
Keep in mind I wasn't a beginner at art, just a digital art beginner, so I was already skilled with anatomy and shading.
Yeah, Pewdiepie has mastered drawing anime girls in under 15 hours. He drew for 10 minutes a day for 90 days, which adds up to 15 hours. So, it is definitely possible to improve that fast.
That's actually really true. I do animations for fun every now and then and my animations have gotten much better since when I first started. But they didn't get so much better just because I knew what to do better, it was getting used to the equipment that made the bigger changes. It was still drastic improvement but I usually don't settle on "it's fake" from the speed alone;
@@baiwuli6781 I mean yeah but we saw his process🥹It was such a problem with Candie because all we saw was just image to image of the art getting *1000x* more better each day.
All the characters Candie drew were either Project Sekai: colorfull stage(a rhythm game) or Vocaloid.
i want all of you to please consider that this is a CHILD
i have seen some of the most vile shit being said to this person, when honestly what they did wasnt even that bad??? yeah they made some people feel self conscious and thats not good, but i dont think thats really a reason to go witch hunting her.
humans are biologically programmed to crave validation. this isnt something i would do, and i dont think its good, but i also think it can be justified.
just my personal opinion
EXACTLY! Im pretty sure im their moot on their new account and im pretty sure they felt bad, they did it to get reach since they fot none
Btw most of these characters are from a game called project sekai and some of them are also something called a “vocaloid” ^^
Non-vocaloid fans that call vocaloid anime (even before Hatsune Miku was getting featured as a character IN a few different anime). Aka, this ain’t new.
@@Aesos3429 yeah it happens alot
Specifically Teto and Miku in the start are from the music video of Mesmerizer
The vocaloids, the main 6 aren’t from project sekai. They are musical instruments from crpyton future media.
"something called vocaloid" 😭😭😭 /nbr
Everyone in the comments when kat says pjsk is an anime character:😡😡😡😡 everyone in the comments when kat says an anime characters name wrong:😡😡😡😡
Y’all stop attacking her about pjsk and Teto 😭 it hurt me too but she also did say that she is trying to pronounce them as good as she can so y’all don’t have to attack her like that 😭😭😭
LMAOOO FRR it's funny when she pronounce KOHANE as "koheine" but she's trying her best guys 😢
Akituoe
i feel bad for laughing but i cant help it 💔💔
@@1TS_SH0WTIMEFr😭
I think it's quite funny I like it 💔💔
Emu. Understandable
Air-ee. Yeah sure.
Teeto. Im dead.
Ko-hane. Even more dead.
Oh and you got Ena right!
I hope i dont sound rude!! Its definitely for the best that you aren't in Vocaloid Gacha Rhythm Game hell!
Fr 😭😭 I'm dead with these pronunciations
It pains me so much 😭
TEETO?? 💀
DONT DO HER LIKE THAT 😭
kohain took me out
This girl def doesnt know what anime is, she even has "vtuber" in her ig description and she NEVER used an avatar in any channel, always showed her face 💀💀 whatshedoin
thank you for being so kind about people's art journey. I dunno how to express it properly but it really is nice when artists support new artists or beginner artists without using "bad". :)
7:23 WHATT? I COULD NOT EVEN COLOR LIKE THAT IF I TRIED! THIS WAS SO OBVIOUS!!
Seeing this everyday on digital sculpting groups.
"Hello, this is my first sculpt! Hope you like it!!
Then shows a full dynamically-posed-enchorchè!
Just in search of attention...
Usually it's their first IN THAT SOFTWARE, but they don't bother to make the distinction.
As an actual beginner artist who is just trying to get some tips to improve art, these people disgust me trying to squirt that popularity to be popular >:(
Most of the characters are from colorful stage. A vocaloid rhythm game. 5:14
I've noticed a few YT videos similar to what Candie was doing. If you search "Pretending to be Beginner/Noob Artist" or "Pretending I suck at art" etc, there are quite a few. They usually post in art discords and offer free/cheap commissions, give the 'bad' beginner art first, and then surprise the commissioner with their actual 'good' art.
On one hand, they are giving the person they tricked two art pieces as compensation and they come clean quickly. But it always rubbed me the wrong way that they're essentially jumping into small ponds to be the bigger fish. Kinda like smurfing where, instead of competing against people of their skill level, they're going down to a lower rank to give themselves a huge leg up. And for what really? It's such a weird way to get an ego boost even if it's "just a joke/content, bro"
My theory is they are very insecure in their own art. I find a lot of "mediocre" artists do this, (mediocre as in how they see their own skills) You get praised for being a great artist or being the "best" out of a group. Since they can't be "great", (ie: their skills are not amazing)they decide to be the best "beginner"
You'll never see a secure artist who would do this, because while attention on your art is great, drawing is just fun. A mediocre art will get little or no attention in social media BUT PUT it AS A "beginner"/8yr old" and look at all the attention coming.
That's literally what I was thinking like seriously
Weird take, they are giving someone way more than they paid for, I really don't see what the issue there could be. If someone buys a 5$ commission and expects nothing and instead gets drawing by someone a lot more skilled that would be worth a lot more, like... Both the artist and the commissioner win, the artist has fun, good feeling because they gave something out for (nearly) free and they have content to post on yt/other social media. The commissioner wins because they get better art for ridiculously low price. It literally doesn't hurt anyone.
An it was just for attention too. Experiment or not.
@@vanilla7349 still rubs me the wrong way when people lie about it. if someone were to lie to me about their skill on something and i try my best to encourage and compliment them, id still feel deceived and taken advantage of despite receiving compensation. it wouldnt hurt me but id definitely be pretty upset if my comments were basically for nothing since theyre meant for someone i thought was a beginner. especially since theyre making it because the difference in their scuffed art vs their actual art would no doubt impress me which just feels like ego boosting and im uncomfortable with that to say the least so i wouldnt say its a win for me. it just feels like glorified compliment fishing tbh not that everyone is doing it with that kinda intentions but thats my impression of it which is why it rubs me the wrong way
I dont see what's wrong with what that girl has done
Exactly
Same, people are overreacting way too much.
as someone who is also very sensitive to anger, the artist seems genuinely remorseful and like they were oblivious to the consequences of running this account. please don't jump to conclusions, and try to give them the benefit of the doubt. they clearly already know what they've done is wrong and understand how it is harmful. speaking from experience, they don't want to face the hate because of how sensitive they are to it, but understand why and feel guilty about it. it hurts to see so many people relentlessly shame them despite how they've clearly been mentally affected by the huge wave of criticism and hate.
and as someone who has been trying to help my friends work on their art skills, i fully understand how harmful faking progress can be. the #1 obstacle has always been self-inflicted, undeserved criticism, usually from comparing themselves to others. the thought that you're "not good enough" is the easiest way to discourage most from improving. i understand that the unrealistic rate at which this artist "improved" demotivated countless artists. but they fully understand this, so please be more forgiving. thank you 💕
Once again, this is giving me the vibes of a young person doing dumb stuff.. as young people do. I definitely wouldn't hold it against her.
I really needed the lines from 20:00 to 21secs, thank you. Although it probably was't aimed and I watched this video out of curiosity it really pushed me.
When you said "teto" wrong it really hit me /hj 4:13
Tooooo baaaad
Yeah it’s teto not ti toe
@@PerpetualIyTired but i hear tea to
テト
"tea toe"
Her saying she doesn’t like doing art on her normal account with 52 followers. I have only 155 subscribers on this account, but I also know most of those 155 people were 8-10 y/os just like me when most people subbed. I have never really cared too much about posting or getting views. I think your art improves and feels better when you don’t let views and likes dictate how you feel about your work! It sucks that so many artists fall into this trap of wanting likes and views and lose what they like.
Yeah my insta has 150 followers and I used to post vocaloid art frequently, I don’t post as much as I used to and sure I wished I had more followers or a acknowledgment but it’s not a big deal to me or I haven’t been inspired to draw anything for the past year since my family has a lot of big changes coming soon and I used to be on amino when it was still good posting a lot more there and a better community of people with the same interests as me, I have improved a lot over the years and cuz for the past seven years I been drawing nearly every day
In my opinion, The way they actually proved that the art community is so toxic ngl
Fr
I didn’t know that there would be a video about candie
(THE PRONOUNCIATION OF THE PJSK CHARACTERS I’M DYING)
The way she pronounced kohane similarly to cocaine made me giggle a little 😭
‘a-key-toh’ almost made me fall off my chair i was not expecting that 😀
Tea-ot (teto)
TEA TOE 😭😭 AY-REE 😭😭
Well, at least she apologised
For posting her own art?
@@kubo7553 They meant for faking abt being beginner artist but yeah, going crazy over a drawing isn’t normal 💀
And she seems like a genuine good person. Maybe her very quick "improvement" made some people insecure about their art but she didn't mean to go so far
@@Imxxyourxxsenoritafr
As a semi beginner, this is absurd💀 Its physically impossible to improve that fast. And your right it just looks like they drew it fast
It dont matter how fast but how efficient
Anyone with proper training or guiding can triple their artwork quality but they better get used being alone against the whole world
I totally understand why candi did this, it sucks they felt the need to do it tho. Comparison will happen in the art community no matter what, its not her fault beginners compared themselves to her.
And tbh, when they fake being a beginner, it makes ACTUAL beginners look like a fraud when they want to share their art
as a beginner artist this makes me feel more motivated to keep improving than to make me feel bad about how fast she's improving
17:25 their saying they understand if ppl want to hate they just wish ppl wouldn't, especially if ppl tag them
Your short speech at the end was actually really nice. I've been comparing my art to other artists a lot lately, as I'm sure are other artists aswell. But you're right, everyone has a different journey and the important thing is to remember that progress is always progress. Thanks
dead honest this messed up my plans to try baiting art lore bros smh
I say you do it
@@nurseii9018 I say I agree
It feels wrong but I'm actually kinda glad that Candie did this. It brought this topic to the attention of a lot of people. I always feel like people are too extreme, on both sides, when it comes to beginner art.
Same
This is a nothing issue. It's because people are jealous of beginner artists and pay attention to them to see if they don't as fast as them. Artists are toxic af I hate our community
“To see if they don’t what as fast as them ?
Most people were being supportive, how is that jealousy? Sometimes watching people noticeably improve is satisfying, especially when it seems like they're putting in the commitment and effort.
but all the comments seemed really supportive?
@@Bleh_exxecmost of the time beginner artists get massive hate and I think that what they were trying to see when making this social experiment
@@Valentina-kf3mmthey were trying to see peoples reactions to them improving their art pretty quickly and I guess how much more followers that would get compared to her other account that didn’t have many followers even though she posted her most recent artworks
Yea nah this honestly proved to me just how far the art community on tt will go to bully someone considering so many people have done the same thing and this person is the one everyone is shitting on
I once did an art social experiment, but nothing like this. For five drawings, I drew characters more 'scandalous" than I'd normally draw. I needed to know if my viewership and interaction numbers went up if I did. And yeah... they did SIGNIFICANTLY. I could've let that decide how I'd pursue art from that point on, but opted to stick true to what I wanted to create with my skills.
deleting tiktok was the best thing I’ve ever done for my creative self
This is so real same
It‘s interesting how the arms are like all squiggly lines, but the fabric folds are so good
Well, what did her actual art pieces look like? 😭 I couldn’t care less about her being a fake beginner or whatever, I just like looking at art.
Watch the full video dude
@@Rino-985 Ah, I had. Ig their non-beginner art still looked like beginner art to me.
Faking to be a beginner is wild.
Edit: why tf did I get 1k likes but thx
Frr
Honestly I don’t think pretending to be a beginner is that serious, like she was getting death threats
Going crazy over a fake beginner artist account is crazy
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoafr
I've seen people with no skill getting more attention than people with ~medium skill, so that person's idea to pretend that they're worse than they really are was quite an easy way to get the audience
Digital art is the HARDEST thing ever!
My art is pretty good on paper, not digitally 😂
And what i learn from this situation. Getting attention from clout or drama made by yourself will never worth it. Either you will feel guilty or horrible because people will stop supporting and even hating you once they knew your real motives.
Just be grateful for your organic followers, might not a lot, but at least that means they support/acknowledge you. Attention feels good, sure, but will not last forever. Loyal supporters, though, sounds hotter to me.
When your a beginner artist, it may take years to be satisfied with your drawings, but lying that your drawing change so much in two or three days, that's impossible, but yes it can change, but not that much.
Support for all artist 🎉
It's has taken me like 8 years to improve. And I'm still not satisfied with my art.
Btw don't ask. But 20:15 this part is true. I'm very envious of people my age-
Btw the ones with the clouds are from the music video called "mesmeriser" sung by vocaloids and the others are from a rhythm game called Project Sekai Colorful stage
Beginners may have "unappealing" art, but they put actual effort in it and it looks more complete. You'll notice more brush strokes, more colors, and at least attempts to fix anatomy so it doesn't look alien-like. Those looked lazy and drawn in 30 seconds.
Another problem (idk if it's related enough to mention) is compliment-fishing by saying "I'm so ugly! (shows a thirst trap)" "I ruined my hair (proceeds to show beautiful hair)" "Rate me! It's alr if you say 1"
I'm always worried about coming off as þe latter tbh, þough by now i cant bring myself to share anyþing wiþ oþers due to þese fears, because i stare and overþink for so long þat i cant tell how bad or good it is at all and i remember all my old drawings þat looked good to me back þen but now i see all þe mistakes, so i assume þe worst and stating it explicitly makes me feel at least kind of safer and less foolish
Obviously þere are people using to intentionally get compliments etc., but i feel like it can be a common defense mechanism in general, eiþer just low self-esteem and self-critisism, or for me at least I often feel like on one hand I may actually like it in some way and want to share þat, but also afraid þat it's actually horrible and plainly visible to oþers but not me, and if I don't at least say þat I "know" þat in advance, I just feel like þe most delusional silent laughingstock.
Idk þis also got very unrelated probably lmao
Off-topic but the way you pronounced teto's name as "tea-toe" 😭
I usually say her name te-to
@@alexisdied4558i used to but my friends pronounce as té-to (the e is higher) and i atracted it to myself :3
Ikr as a Teto fan I am offended
@@remasteredcares you mean as a tea toe fan?
I PRONOUNCE IT AS TEY TOE-
I can somewhat differentiate serious beginner art from purposefully bad art. I can pretty much tell these drawings are intentionally bad because they look like the ironic Sans fangirl artstyle.
havent watched it in full yet but
pretending to be a beginner?
honestly it would feel refreshing as hell
no thoughts
just draw
dont think about making things perfect
just let yourself loose
U should be a poet
@@fxiry670 i find poetry boring
@@SeraphinaHayes no but like u should. Ur like naturaly talented if u dont read/make poetry much this is really good:0
@@Staredstar hahah well thank you then
I do sometimes make things rhyme by accident
(Maybe I'm naturally gifted who knows)
I did that on TikTok to relax. Giant ears, asymmetrical eyes, saturated or nonsensical coloring, poorly drawn lines... Peace
I understand their frustration tho, hope her actual art gets more traction but also for them not to do it again. They may have hurt it for actual beginners...
I have been drawing for 6 years, and when I saw the difference I was like "That's sus 🤨"
ngl, I saw the project sekai/vocaloid character on the thumbnail, I clicked quicker than I ever did
It was a bit hard hearing all the names being... quite scorched ^^"
But it's okay, I understand that most poeple don't know about the game, it's popular but only within it's niche
It’s a game?
@scarletsletter4466 Yes it’s a rhythm game, I really recommend playing it :)
@@0tori_Emu ONLY if you know to not get caught in the gacha trap
I think the whole situation is stupid. Like… why would you get mad at someone for pretending to be terrible at drawing but actually is actually good at it?
cuz people were genuinely rooting for their improvement so to find out that their support wasnt going towards someone who was actually a beginner but rather a skilled artist some people cant help but feel upset. its false advertising, marketing yourself as lower value brings about a target audience with that preference which is why faking it gives the impression of having ulterior motives in gaining their trust. in this case candie marketed their account as a begginner artist bringing about an audience who wants to support beginner artists and see them grow. seeing that the progress that was shown to them was fabricated would reasonably lead them to believe candie had a motive for lying which is to gain attention and people just dont want to feed into that. overall this practice is just disingenuous and fraudulent
@@shxki.vhow is it fraudulent, they weren’t making money in ANY way. Honestly I dont care at least they dont touch kids! Seriously go outside and touch grass
because it makes it hard to support artists who are genuinely beginners
@@pearlykangelno it doesn’t lmao stop overreacting
honestly it’s not a big deal .. then they let weirdass artists who have committed acc crimes get away w shit
I really get the feeling of putting your soul on a piece that doesn't get seen by anyone. When a bait gets you more attention than your normal art does, it's rubbing salt to the wound. Being an artist online is hard, but I hope those who feel the same keep going. If you love what you do, that love will reach someone, even if it takes a while.
As someone who is struggling so hard with learning art and hating that I haven't improved a lot it's sad to see things like this. It breaks my heart and makes me think I'll never get there.
you got this !! dont be discouraged but if you do, i rly do recommend tryna just draw for yourself n you will improve fs cos youd be having fun
this is s stupid ima beginner like im still learning everything and yall acting like ur gonna jump off a cliff after one video
@@MissesXoX whether or not someone wants to jump off a cliff because of a video is none of ur damn business you dont know what theyre going through to feel that way and being in a similar skill level certainly does not grant you the right to compare your experiences and putting others down because you didnt have as much of a reaction than them. op is feeling bad and youre here invalidating their feelings because youre like "im also a beginner and i didnt react like that so others must be wrong for feeling that way"
Please, it was a social experiment.. why are you acting as if you’d jump in front of a train
@Nyomaa because they can?? its their feelings not yours. just because it was a social experiment doesnt make it less hurtful?? thats like saying it was just a prank bro when damage had been done. some people are just more sensitive tp these kinda stuff and its literally not their fault for being that way.
I was thinking about it, and why does Candie’s old “beginner” art reminds me of the artstyle in Yababaina😭
LMAO YES
OMFG YES
8:54 the drawing is actually really good
Tbh Candy doesn't even look THAT experienced to me. Okay! she knows something about the basics, as an example, colors, but i felt like people ignored a LOT of stuff, one, she was COPYING and referencing images, and two, she literally posts gacha life edit images on her main account. 💀 I used to be a gacha life editor and that rlly helped me understanding a bit about how lighting works n stuff. Of course it's obvious that they were faking being a baby newborn artist, but it's clear they're still beginners learning because they still commit mistakes, you don't need to draw like a 5 year old to be a beginner and i feel like people ignore that a lot.
what do gacha life edits have to do w anything?😭😭
@@skulkrr I'm talking about the fact that she edits/paints over gacha screenshots, idk how to explain it but it's usually like adding shine to the hair, eyes, etc.. Like rendering! That could also explain why she has knowledge of one or two things about digital art.
@@blessedbyaponia yep
I honestly feel bad for them, yes they hurt people and lied about being a beginner. But I kinda feel like making hate videos about them is honestly ridiculous. I do understand people are upset, but I still find it ridiculous to make actual hate videos about someone who lied about being a beginner artist. Not something I would go out of my way to hate on. But they did do this to the art community on tiktok, so it's not really surprising people are doing all of that
(Yes I am aware I basically just repeated myself a bunch, I'm honestly not good with writing or making stuff that makes sense a majority of the time)
Tbh I don't really blame her for trying this. On tiktok, the art community only ever seems to circle around brand new artists in terms of community engagement. Why does this happen? Probably for a few reasons; maybe people empathize with beginners more often, maybe because seeing beginners who they think are worse than them is an ego boost so its easier to engage, maybe they assume that they're closer in age, I dunno. But as someone who's more advanced but not professional, I'd dream of getting this level of engagement on my own art, and I very much noticed that the engagement severely decreased the better I got over the years, until eventually it stifled. She proved herself right, though I also have a feeling that as she goes back to her own art, she'll be even more deflated because she realizes it's very much a losing game after a certain point. I sympathize with her.
3:17 considering theres a movie of pjsk coming out soon ig shes not too far off but it still hurts hearing her call pjsk an anime 😭😭😭
WHAT A MOVIE? REARAFAK.LLLY?-!!
TOO REAL 😞😞
I know right? I keep yelling it's a rhythm GAME, not anime (yet!) 😭
THERES A MOVIE?! WHEN
@@Kitchensink. Just search up pjsk movie it comes out In JAPAN theaters in February
My question is why would they make some bait "social experiment" but also be so sensitive to hate they cant see it ToT
to me it sounds like a kid who wanted attention since their actual art wasnt receiving any, and when everything blew up they werent equipped to handle all of the criticism that came their way. you know tiktok just cant be normal, they flood comment sections and private messages.
when i was 12 i think i faked being a boy in amino cause i was convinced they received more attention for like a week. i became relatively popular in a niche place, then got scared people would find out and disappeared. if i were to be exposed i would said just that, "it was a social experiment!" but it was more because i was fed up that my efforts were ignored (funny enough, i ended up being a trans guy). maybe im just projecting, but it feels like something similar to me.
"It was a social experiment" seems to be one of the most common go-to lies for people who get caught in the act doing shitty stuff like this. :/ Also, "hate is valid" and "I'm sensitive to hate" feels a lot like "you can be mad but I don't wanna deal with the consequences of my own actions," especially when there's a distinct difference between "hate" and people calling out your shitty behavior. Like this is legitimately such weird behavior. Faking an art trade? Pretending to be a beginner?? Why??? I know they said why but like...why this specifically??? This is so bizarre. If you're art isn't getting a lot of engagement, maybe change platforms or rethink how you're advertising it or putting it out there??? That seems the more logical leap????
Idk man, this is just so dumb, and also harmful to less experienced artists, as you pointed out. I wouldn't consider myself a beginner artist but I'm definitely leagues from getting as good as your "current" like the example you showed in this video, and I struggle with my inner critic a LOT when it comes to my art. Right now, I'm still drawing a lot like how I drew 7 years ago, and I feel like I should have improved so much more by now (which actually doesn't make sense bc I don't draw a whole lot), and if I'd seen this and made the assumption that this person could improve that quickly, yeah, it would've fucked me up pretty badly. Pulling shit like this is at least just as bad as bad art "advice" because it sets up unrealistic expectations for beginners who don't know better, and that crushes creativity faster than anything else I know.
In my opinion, while it is really weird to pretend to be a beginner, having your whole account be a lie, have people defending you from toxicity and people rooting for you meanwhile there's real beginners who will feel bad that you are improving more than them. I just find it laughably unnecessary?
But also
I can't help but feel bad for this kid
The algorithm is terrible towards artists and you kinda have to do anything and everything to gain fame, pretending like you don't know how to draw is the least serious one.
@@billypipthis video isn't even hate it's just addressing the situation..
@@billypip they're sensitive to hate, not confrontation
It's like they're learning 50 new things per drawing and doing it perfectly from there on forward, when in reality it's hard to even remember 5 new things everytime you draw without multiple repetitions.
I feel like the art community shouldn’t coddle beginner artists but also shouldn’t bully them 🤷♀️ like if it’s bad and their cocky don’t let the embarrass themselves- but also don’t tell them to end themselves