@@ma.2089even the fucking ASMR community?! That community is one of the last community I thought would have problem about content theft since you know, all they do is like either story telling in a soothing voice or making satisfying noises to be your white noise while you work.
@@skycats6663I was shocked too! Why do you even need to steal and cause stress to others?? I just don’t get how every community, no matter how diverse will find a way to make a problem; that’s insane.
@keeysOST Really?? Does that mean that it’s happened before? I’ll admit after listening to the video today, I haven’t heard anything about reverse art theft before. 0.0
@@artisticangel5795 well, I mean, the mangaka of no game no life already traced some artists, and even though they arent beginners, the mangaka is a professional, so... yeah, it does happens lol
Laziness? Just because someone is good at art doesn't mean they're a good person, they could also do it out of spite knowing the smaller/beginner artist has a much smaller following
Bitternightmare’s art looks sloppy with the lighting, shadows, and the line art. Tracers probably think that since they’re tracing a professional their art automatically looks good which isnt the case.
What if no lineart🤔 Maybe good rendering for both , but no lineart? I've seen a case like that, the only reason the tracer got caught was because they had too much free time, and the drawings looked a bit similar.
@@WaffelWuffelThats true but ive yet to see it happen because more experienced artists don't normally need to trace the art of less experienced artists
@@alabamaslammer3921 Seen it happen in Tumblr days, except the skilled tracer frankenstein multiple artists. My experiences with tracers with artistic skills, is that they are likely to trace smaller artists or "less skilled" artists, for some reasons... Someone traced my sketch as a kid before, and corrected the perspective and anatomy which at the time were (and still) my weak point. While theirs looked better and was lined nicely, it was obviously traced when you look at their gallery style and mine. 💀 Of course this case, you can tell who trace based of the weird (not bad) line work.
I delete everything every five minutes it feels like, I can’t imagine having receipts that far back that wasn’t miraculously saved to a Google pictures account by pure accident.
I just joined twitter for art reasons and this channel started popping up in my feed, I’m so invested and scared lol. People be making drama for anything
This was so confusing at first. Like if you ever trace someones art (you should never do that btw) you gotta be more smart than dm the person who made the original drawing and saying they were the one who traced the drawing, the tracer legit just digged their own grave so fast it's hilarious to me🤣
nothing wrong with tracing someone's art for practice or fun, as long as you aren't claiming it as your own or making money off of it. Which this person not only tried to stole it and claimed it as their own but also accused who they stole it from XD
I wanna be honest with you i have over 8 yrs of drawing experience and some ppl trace my drawings. And i think its okay to trace just credit the orignal one and make it clear that its traced. I mean even i trace for practice sometimes
Just saw this lol to clarify to some ppl: - theirs being 2022 is literally impossible because a. this art is a commission. Meaning, the character is owned by the client. It’s original and they even commissioned someone to design the whole entire outfit. b. For my art in 2023 to be traced I would then have to scour the whole internet to find an art similar to my client’s character outfit, down to the tiniest details and accessories; which is obviously impossible bc of what I pointed out above. Also to anyone asking me to just post a speedpaint; I don’t record every art I do, heck i dont even do that anymore hence why i dont post new vids on my yt. I just dont have the time, also i still use SAI 2 which doesn’t have the built in timelapse recorder lol So yeah that’s about it 😅 thank you for the sweet comments, I’ve read them all! It’s so nice to know that I have sm support!🥹
I like you artwork very much! Still feel really sad that real artists being asked to post proves for their artwork and got assumed as AI images/ not original artwork if couldn’t provide proves.
I think my favorite part is that they added a background with some default leaf brush in whatever app they used, then pasted a shadow that’s 1:1 with the lineart and shifted it over with no regard for the fact that shadows don’t exist in air. The shadow is going over the leaves and then over sky. Like, what?
I have a drawing I did like that in 5th grade 💀💀💀 it was a dragon in the sky and I used a cloud brush, then fill bucketed in a dark color into the selection of the figure on a multiply layer and skewed it to one side so there’s a shadow just on the sky and clouds incredibly flat 💀💀
@@BloodMoonCosplays nothing wrong with that, but it's typically not realistic and it's weird imo. but if you're having fun with what you're doing, i don't think it harms anyone
This sounds very similar to scams that are being run on Spotify the music app. This scam works like this… The original artist posts their album etc Then a scammer makes a brand new account, downloads all the OA’s music And uploads it on their brand new Spotify account Then immediately copyright claims all the OA’s music that they stole Then Spotify works off of the 1st come 1st serve method and if the thief is the 1st one to copyright claim the OA’s work then Spotify sides with the scammer and removes all of the Original artist’s music. And after you have your music removed for copyright claims you can’t get the scammers account removed with all of your stolen music, you can’t even re-upload your music again yourself. So these poor music artists have to not only have their music stolen, but their own music gets removed while they are basically banned from the platform while they also have to watch the scammer earn revenue off all their hard work. It’s really sad and so far Spotify hasn’t even addressed this as a real problem. Smh
In my experience with tracing (which I used to do when I was younger and wanted help with anatomy, but never posted them) it’s so much more fun to draw what you know how to draw! Everytime I would trace something it wouldn’t feel like me, even if I changed things drastically. It just never gave me the same satisfaction as actually drawing something from scratch.
Tracing is good for developing skills and understanding the thoughts behind the professional’s art, but tracing is only for practice purpose, nothing more.
The difference in artistic skills between the two works is evident. The original artist demonstrates remarkable talent and integrity. Conversely, the plagiarist exhibits a lack of skill and, rather than dedicating effort to personal improvement, resorts to theft of others' creations, and audaciously accuses them of the very same offense. This behavior is utterly disgusting and unacceptable.
Something to note: the amount of art Bitter and Buns had. Buns had way much more art pieces containing the same art style, while Bitter had only one piece containing the same “art style”. It would also be very obvious that Buns created that drawing with that additional piece of evidence.
Something else to point out, nightmare didn't even color the hair right. One of the swooshes on the right is fully filled in when there should be a gap and the bottom of the hair on the left id missing hair.
Oh wow didn't expect to see this on RUclips. Saw this drama on Twitter yesterday. Unfortunately there were actually people saying "how defensive you are is kind of sus" to Bun. Think a couple of people thought for a sec that some more experienced artist was taking advantage of a newbie or something. False tracing allegations harm artists.
It reminds me of the times where an animation artist would be pulled into drama by people who stole their original work and made those stupid "I hate (insert youtuber's
Oops I didn't finish it😭 What I meant was it reminds me of the time when animation artist on RUclips would have haters trace their original animations and have their RUclips channels called "I hate (insert original youtuber's name)" and just steal their work.
Yeah, its honestly annoying to see people or even little kids copy off of other peoples work and try to get them into drama that they didn't start. But he dumb thing they don't realize is if they want to say "(insert youtuber name) stole my original idea!" then they'd have to kinda show photo evidence that they had the idea first and not them.😑
....I could be wrong but this unlocked a memory with me. The guy who made Dear David, Adam Ellis copied a comic to post, and harassed the original artist who was smaller in number then he was. And due to his huge number his followers attacked the original artist for coping him rather then believing the small creator. Not saying that is what is happening here, cause yeah this person tried to do a uno reverse gone wrong and it so clear to see form all angels. But hearing this all is just reminding me of when it happened the other way around.
Oh, I actually follow this artist! This was so upsetting to see, I’m glad the tracer is gone. Bunbyart works so hard on her art and has a unique style she’s been working on for years. Glad it all worked out 💖
Ahh that's so unfair! Not only did they trace but it doesn't even look like they tried! Plus it's just mediocre. (BTW I love your vids and I'm glad your growing so much as a RUclipsr!)
I mean, it is super obvious already that they traced Bun's art. I wanted to add that I have recently commisioned art from Bun for my OC as well. I was super picky and had every single detail planned out for my character, and she followed them perfectly. Not something you could do if you were tracing other art. Wonderful artist with such a pretty art style! Super sweet as well, and her comms are open rn, I recommend!
The art community can be so humble "who traced?" You all know how to draw or are part of the community, you just know by looking who. But bold to play the uno reverse card when it is so obvious
I f**king hate tracers. I’ve been drawing for 20+ years and to see someone rip off your original work when you’ve put in weeks or months is infuriating.
Tysm this helped me understand the situation a LOAD more! I love ur content so much since it’s most recent drama about stuff that I can’t really understand without ur help.. once again thank you. Also the way she had the guts to even say that the original art piece that they traced over and coloured differently was theirs- like that’s just plain weird. But even if you do trace I would say not to but even if you do give credits,ask for permission and if they do say “yes you can trace my art.” then well you can but when ur posting give credits and say that it was traced + that you got permission but if they said “no, please don’t do that” then don’t trace them and even if you did then I would say you would get hate,comments saying you traced + the original artist saying you traced them and all that stuff.
this is not only disrespectful to bun but also bun's client. it's basically taking the client's oc design and changing up the colours of the character, then bitternightmares claims it as theirs
It reminds me of something similar that happened to me on a social media that stopped 1 year ago, there was a user who used to troll around and steal people’s art (nobody really noticed them except 1 or 2 likes) and I decided to post my art ONCE. They traced it and reposted it telling me I traced, hopefully I had my friends to protect me and we were able to show proofs it was mine and there wasn’t too much drama about it. I know how she feels/felt and I hope she gets a normal amount of commission again
How tf did pple even believe that the tracer's the original?? Like- her "artwork" clearly looks more amateur/beginner level compared to the actual artist.
3:24 Yeaah..100% sure this person claiming bun did the tracing didn't even do the traced art themselves, I feel bad for Kori if they are someone completely unrelated and was asked to do this for nightmare. When I was younger I was asked by a client to draw their character in a style/pose/ect of a drawing they references to me. MY goober brain thought the reference was also a character of theirs maybe they were changing up their look. Later come to find after I posted my commission for them, someone reached out being "hey, this looks alot like such an suchs work" I looked them up, found the reference I was using and freaked the fork out. I contacted the original artist and it all worked out in the end but still erks me to this day. Now if I'm given a reference and they want the same style/pose I make sure best I can to find out if it belongs to someone else other than the client. 🤣
@@DepressedBarCat ?? 1. ik ur not talking w that hazbin hotel wattpad ahh profile and 2. not everything online is a lie, maybe its true, maybe its a coincidence, maybe its not
i love watching your videos btw! genuinely a nice channel with nice commentary. its rlly helpful to have someone with art experience talking about these things! keep up the good work i love your content sm
Dont ever trace someone elses work and try to claim its your own. Only one time tracing isnt bad and thats if u are using it to learn and understand better how to draw something. Even then do not claim the work as your own. Simply for a personal study
As an artist, this is gross. I used to trace, but not others art, ususally fanf (a long time ago idk if its the right word) and NEVER said its mine. All tracing is ok IF YOU KEEP IT TO YOUR DAMN SELF. Learn anatomy any way you want. But dont steal or trace online.period.
By the start I knew who traced, like, you can see OBVIOUSLY WHO TRACED. One has very shaky line art and is generally more simple and the other one is a lot more detailed and more “confident” than the other
Oof, its such a shame that they felt the need to do this, you can trace the art and credit the person you traced off of since tracing can actually help you learn to draw 😭
I clicked on this because it's an artist I've known for years, but apparently totally missed this mess. This is insane, I can't imagine how the tracer thought this would work.
You can always tell because people who trace lack the braincells to up the pixel count when they screenshot other artists work so the lines are bulkier and more pixelated and looks less fluid
imagine a person tracing your art and dm-ing you and they say “hey i stole your artwork but ill say that it’s from two years ago so hopefully people would believe me”
4:57 I personally consider myself to be pretty good at dynamic poses but I'm HORRIBLE at linework, lighting, shading, just rendering overall. (not defending this person, just saying that this is something that can totally happen!)
Before I even saw the original, I clocked it as traced. I barely do art anymore, but this is exactly what traced art in deviantart looked like back in the day. It’s so 1-to-1, I can’t take it seriously that anyone would side with them.
If they wanted to prove their art was from the year before (which they didn't and didn't have proof), they could've used the Metadata to show the creation of the art piece to show when it was made. But they didn't. They just said it was and expected everyone to side with her instead of the original artist. How sad of them.
Kori isn’t bitter nightmares nor bunny’s but bunny prob took Inspo from “Kori”(pose) but bitternightmares probably used the same sketch bc bunny might have posted the pose reference and bitternightmare prob thought it was gonna be in bunnies drawing
Wow, I never thought that the artist traced and tried to say it owned it and why a professional artist would try trace beginners artist. As a beginners artist, scary me that if I use reference, I want to post it, and I will never post it. I do use references for clothes and pose, but I mostly try to do my own pose because of this.
This was on my Twitter timeline, that's gotta be one of the most blood boiling situations for an artist to go through, and they were lucky that the other person was super dumb.
just looking at the thumbnail the one on the left is the traced one, the nose is in the wrong spot because the original artist didn’t put enough detail on the nose to make it obvious to someone who doesn’t know where it should be. Why would a traced piece have better colours, anatomy and added details that don’t look super off like the nose in the first one? The only thing they would have had to do independently of the traced art work was put the nose in the correct spot which is very easy to do and they couldn’t even do that. Edit: didn’t even have to watch the video to figure it out
I'm sorry but are those people who accused the original artist blind? You can literally see the difference in both artwork, like dude you can clearly see all the detail in the drawing of the original artist.
you can tell someone is a tracer when it looks like their art has no plan underneath. when you draw your own sketch you know how everything is working, but when you're just tracing from something already existing you won't understand the decisions that the original artist made so the art won't make sense (ie the fingernails on the closed hand). also the linework and shading will be unconfident and shaky compared to the more skilled anatomy.
I love bunbbyart sm I've been following her for so long when I saw this I was so confused Obviously I was on buns side but to see so many people against bun makes me sad she doesn't deserve it
Bro! Just already give the record of artwork💀! Like uk maximum art software usually have Time lapse video Replay! Guys! It doesn’t need any much further arguement💀
Imagine being a tracer and deciding to get attention by claiming the person who you stole from stole from you this has been a weird year
There was an ASMR Vtuber who had this happen to them. RUclips took down the original channel, and kept the thief’s up cuz they copyright claimed.
She needed to be a Mercy not tracer
@@ma.2089even the fucking ASMR community?! That community is one of the last community I thought would have problem about content theft since you know, all they do is like either story telling in a soothing voice or making satisfying noises to be your white noise while you work.
@@skycats6663I was shocked too! Why do you even need to steal and cause stress to others?? I just don’t get how every community, no matter how diverse will find a way to make a problem; that’s insane.
@@JeskidoYTHELP THATS WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT TOO 😭
Why would a professional artist trace from a beginner artist? Lmao
Honestly you'd be surprised
@keeysOST Really?? Does that mean that it’s happened before?
I’ll admit after listening to the video today, I haven’t heard anything about reverse art theft before. 0.0
@@artisticangel5795 well, I mean, the mangaka of no game no life already traced some artists, and even though they arent beginners, the mangaka is a professional, so... yeah, it does happens lol
Laziness? Just because someone is good at art doesn't mean they're a good person, they could also do it out of spite knowing the smaller/beginner artist has a much smaller following
I mean there are plenty of professional artist that just steal from others and straight up tracing it ^^
Bitternightmare’s art looks sloppy with the lighting, shadows, and the line art. Tracers probably think that since they’re tracing a professional their art automatically looks good which isnt the case.
Their username checks out
yea i took one look at the thumbnail and instantly i could tell who traced. if you have to trace, you arent as good as you think you are.
I cannot believe someone would do this to bunbby! I have commissioned her before, she’s an incredible artist! She’s so sweet as well 😭
I have been following her for like 4 years on Instagram now
You’re the sweetest, thank you!!🥹💗
@@bunbby5160 THANK GOD UR ON YT IM SUBBING
Her and her art are both actually so precious 💔💔
@@bunbby5160I haven't heard of you before but Im sorry someone accused you of cheating:(
my experience is the one with uglier lineart is the traced one
What if no lineart🤔
Maybe good rendering for both , but no lineart? I've seen a case like that, the only reason the tracer got caught was because they had too much free time, and the drawings looked a bit similar.
LMAO
Nah, I think that more experienced artists can steal from someone less expeeienced, its not like less experienced artists cant have good ideas for art
@@WaffelWuffelThats true but ive yet to see it happen because more experienced artists don't normally need to trace the art of less experienced artists
@@alabamaslammer3921 Seen it happen in Tumblr days, except the skilled tracer frankenstein multiple artists. My experiences with tracers with artistic skills, is that they are likely to trace smaller artists or "less skilled" artists, for some reasons... Someone traced my sketch as a kid before, and corrected the perspective and anatomy which at the time were (and still) my weak point. While theirs looked better and was lined nicely, it was obviously traced when you look at their gallery style and mine.
💀 Of course this case, you can tell who trace based of the weird (not bad) line work.
This is terrifying. Imagine if bun didn't have the account history/rep she did. Even with that, she still got people dogpiling on her.
I delete everything every five minutes it feels like, I can’t imagine having receipts that far back that wasn’t miraculously saved to a Google pictures account by pure accident.
Why am I so invested in watching random artist drama on a small-mid size art channel LOL. Keep doing you.
I mean it’s better than TikTok “art lore” videos and stuff when it’s just really bullying beginners
Omg me too!
As an artist who hasn't posted on social media yet, I like to stay informed on what to look out for.
I just joined twitter for art reasons and this channel started popping up in my feed, I’m so invested and scared lol. People be making drama for anything
ahhh I’m glad u like it!!
bro really thought they could reverse-accuse bun and get away with it, no one can be as dumb as this person💀💀
Osage chan!?!??!!
@@sbjb12 YASS SOMEONE NOTICED!!!
omg lagtrain
@@whatsurnameu slay (did not know there would be much vocaloid fans here)
I honestly hate when artists lie about another artist just for clout and attention. It just shows their only true colors.
This was so confusing at first.
Like if you ever trace someones art (you should never do that btw) you gotta be more smart than dm the person who made the original drawing and saying they were the one who traced the drawing, the tracer legit just digged their own grave so fast it's hilarious to me🤣
they either wanted attention from the original artist or they really aren´t that smart lol
@@missliv.404 Def the second one bc if they wanted attention from the original artist they def wouldn't have deleted their account
nothing wrong with tracing someone's art for practice or fun, as long as you aren't claiming it as your own or making money off of it. Which this person not only tried to stole it and claimed it as their own but also accused who they stole it from XD
I wanna be honest with you i have over 8 yrs of drawing experience and some ppl trace my drawings. And i think its okay to trace just credit the orignal one and make it clear that its traced. I mean even i trace for practice sometimes
@@natomiltary4573 This right here!, like it's okay to trace yeah but it's better to try to draw it yourself from scratch bc you learn so much more
Just saw this lol to clarify to some ppl:
- theirs being 2022 is literally impossible because
a. this art is a commission. Meaning, the character is owned by the client. It’s original and they even commissioned someone to design the whole entire outfit.
b. For my art in 2023 to be traced I would then have to scour the whole internet to find an art similar to my client’s character outfit, down to the tiniest details and accessories; which is obviously impossible bc of what I pointed out above.
Also to anyone asking me to just post a speedpaint; I don’t record every art I do, heck i dont even do that anymore hence why i dont post new vids on my yt. I just dont have the time, also i still use SAI 2 which doesn’t have the built in timelapse recorder lol
So yeah that’s about it 😅 thank you for the sweet comments, I’ve read them all! It’s so nice to know that I have sm support!🥹
I like you artwork very much!
Still feel really sad that real artists being asked to post proves for their artwork and got assumed as AI images/ not original artwork if couldn’t provide proves.
@@raybeeryup!! The ppl asking for speedpaints infuriated me lowkey lol but i guess i kinda get it. Thank you❤
Hey, sorry you had to deal with such drama! Your art is so pretty! I followed your DeviantArt!
Omg ur art is so prettyyy
I think my favorite part is that they added a background with some default leaf brush in whatever app they used, then pasted a shadow that’s 1:1 with the lineart and shifted it over with no regard for the fact that shadows don’t exist in air. The shadow is going over the leaves and then over sky. Like, what?
I draw like this..
I have a drawing I did like that in 5th grade 💀💀💀 it was a dragon in the sky and I used a cloud brush, then fill bucketed in a dark color into the selection of the figure on a multiply layer and skewed it to one side so there’s a shadow just on the sky and clouds incredibly flat 💀💀
@@BloodMoonCosplays stop drawing like that lmao
@BloodMoonCosplays its fine youll get better at lighting (coming from a beginner artist lol)
@@BloodMoonCosplays nothing wrong with that, but it's typically not realistic and it's weird imo. but if you're having fun with what you're doing, i don't think it harms anyone
This sounds very similar to scams that are being run on Spotify the music app.
This scam works like this…
The original artist posts their album etc
Then a scammer makes a brand new account, downloads all the OA’s music
And uploads it on their brand new Spotify account
Then immediately copyright claims all the OA’s music that they stole
Then Spotify works off of the 1st come 1st serve method and if the thief is the 1st one to copyright claim the OA’s work then Spotify sides with the scammer and removes all of the Original artist’s music.
And after you have your music removed for copyright claims you can’t get the scammers account removed with all of your stolen music, you can’t even re-upload your music again yourself.
So these poor music artists have to not only have their music stolen, but their own music gets removed while they are basically banned from the platform while they also have to watch the scammer earn revenue off all their hard work. It’s really sad and so far Spotify hasn’t even addressed this as a real problem. Smh
wtf is wrong with spotify. Good thing I never supported it.
In my experience with tracing (which I used to do when I was younger and wanted help with anatomy, but never posted them) it’s so much more fun to draw what you know how to draw! Everytime I would trace something it wouldn’t feel like me, even if I changed things drastically. It just never gave me the same satisfaction as actually drawing something from scratch.
Tracing is good for developing skills and understanding the thoughts behind the professional’s art, but tracing is only for practice purpose, nothing more.
Lmao this was the worst traced accusation ever
Ik gurl or boy
IKR but I’m going to trace it bc its easy to learn how to draw a complex drawing instead of a simple, goofy ah human
@@IdkbutAnum you say 'human' like you're not human yourself- (JOKING)
The difference in artistic skills between the two works is evident. The original artist demonstrates remarkable talent and integrity. Conversely, the plagiarist exhibits a lack of skill and, rather than dedicating effort to personal improvement, resorts to theft of others' creations, and audaciously accuses them of the very same offense. This behavior is utterly disgusting and unacceptable.
"word for word, bar for bar." - Soulja Boy
Who is also a scammer
Bunny's art has so much more skill i cant believe anyone believed the accusations.
Something to note: the amount of art Bitter and Buns had. Buns had way much more art pieces containing the same art style, while Bitter had only one piece containing the same “art style”. It would also be very obvious that Buns created that drawing with that additional piece of evidence.
Something else to point out, nightmare didn't even color the hair right. One of the swooshes on the right is fully filled in when there should be a gap and the bottom of the hair on the left id missing hair.
Yeah, her lineart is also sloppy, the OG had much cleaner line art.
also, there should be differentiation in shadows under the hair
Oh wow didn't expect to see this on RUclips. Saw this drama on Twitter yesterday. Unfortunately there were actually people saying "how defensive you are is kind of sus" to Bun. Think a couple of people thought for a sec that some more experienced artist was taking advantage of a newbie or something. False tracing allegations harm artists.
"The only thing different is the face," and boy, is that face fricked up! 😂
8:48 THE PLUSHIE IS DANCING!!
my twin brother likes to cause problems xD
It reminds me of the times where an animation artist would be pulled into drama by people who stole their original work and made those stupid "I hate (insert youtuber's
Oops I didn't finish it😭
What I meant was it reminds me of the time when animation artist on RUclips would have haters trace their original animations and have their RUclips channels called "I hate (insert original youtuber's name)" and just steal their work.
@@BumbleBeeOrchid-xr5zsor the ragebait sans/bendy fangirls that trace kitty dog and sashley most commonly
Yeah, its honestly annoying to see people or even little kids copy off of other peoples work and try to get them into drama that they didn't start. But he dumb thing they don't realize is if they want to say "(insert youtuber name) stole my original idea!" then they'd have to kinda show photo evidence that they had the idea first and not them.😑
I feel like if an inferior artist falsely accused me of tracing, I'd be suuuper petty
....I could be wrong but this unlocked a memory with me. The guy who made Dear David, Adam Ellis copied a comic to post, and harassed the original artist who was smaller in number then he was. And due to his huge number his followers attacked the original artist for coping him rather then believing the small creator.
Not saying that is what is happening here, cause yeah this person tried to do a uno reverse gone wrong and it so clear to see form all angels. But hearing this all is just reminding me of when it happened the other way around.
Oh, I actually follow this artist! This was so upsetting to see, I’m glad the tracer is gone. Bunbyart works so hard on her art and has a unique style she’s been working on for years. Glad it all worked out 💖
Ahh that's so unfair! Not only did they trace but it doesn't even look like they tried! Plus it's just mediocre. (BTW I love your vids and I'm glad your growing so much as a RUclipsr!)
I mean, it is super obvious already that they traced Bun's art. I wanted to add that I have recently commisioned art from Bun for my OC as well. I was super picky and had every single detail planned out for my character, and she followed them perfectly. Not something you could do if you were tracing other art. Wonderful artist with such a pretty art style! Super sweet as well, and her comms are open rn, I recommend!
I know this sucks to deal with but it´s kinda funny like in what world could you get away with such bullshit 😭😭
The art community can be so humble "who traced?" You all know how to draw or are part of the community, you just know by looking who. But bold to play the uno reverse card when it is so obvious
I f**king hate tracers. I’ve been drawing for 20+ years and to see someone rip off your original work when you’ve put in weeks or months is infuriating.
very understandable.
I saw this on Twitter a few days ago and was so confused. Thank you for the breakdown.
Tysm this helped me understand the situation a LOAD more! I love ur content so much since it’s most recent drama about stuff that I can’t really understand without ur help.. once again thank you.
Also the way she had the guts to even say that the original art piece that they traced over and coloured differently was theirs- like that’s just plain weird. But even if you do trace I would say not to but even if you do give credits,ask for permission and if they do say “yes you can trace my art.” then well you can but when ur posting give credits and say that it was traced + that you got permission but if they said “no, please don’t do that” then don’t trace them and even if you did then I would say you would get hate,comments saying you traced + the original artist saying you traced them and all that stuff.
Help that is really long 😭..
Man, the things tracers do for clout, insane💀
this is not only disrespectful to bun but also bun's client. it's basically taking the client's oc design and changing up the colours of the character, then bitternightmares claims it as theirs
8:48 the plushie in the back was moving 😭
What😮
It reminds me of something similar that happened to me on a social media that stopped 1 year ago, there was a user who used to troll around and steal people’s art (nobody really noticed them except 1 or 2 likes) and I decided to post my art ONCE. They traced it and reposted it telling me I traced, hopefully I had my friends to protect me and we were able to show proofs it was mine and there wasn’t too much drama about it. I know how she feels/felt and I hope she gets a normal amount of commission again
I aaw the original artist's post yesterday and wondering what actually happened. Thank you for saying the whole thing.
How tf did pple even believe that the tracer's the original?? Like- her "artwork" clearly looks more amateur/beginner level compared to the actual artist.
THE WAY I LITERALLY JUST SAW THIS LIKE YESTERDAY THE DEVIL IS QUICK BUT DRAMA CHANNELS ARE QUICKER
I’m literally at anime expo and i drove home to record this at my setup and edited it the same day back at my airbnb 😭
8:50 who's in the back moving that plushie? xD
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@@MELODIE-x9nlol
3:11 well that was.. quiet🤣
Bun’s art is clearly so much better.
8:47 the plush in the back 😭
bro really thought they'd get away with it. 💀💀
3:24 Yeaah..100% sure this person claiming bun did the tracing didn't even do the traced art themselves, I feel bad for Kori if they are someone completely unrelated and was asked to do this for nightmare. When I was younger I was asked by a client to draw their character in a style/pose/ect of a drawing they references to me. MY goober brain thought the reference was also a character of theirs maybe they were changing up their look. Later come to find after I posted my commission for them, someone reached out being "hey, this looks alot like such an suchs work" I looked them up, found the reference I was using and freaked the fork out. I contacted the original artist and it all worked out in the end but still erks me to this day. Now if I'm given a reference and they want the same style/pose I make sure best I can to find out if it belongs to someone else other than the client. 🤣
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8:47 not the zero two plushie dancing in the background 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Imagine being “too good” to draw so u havta trace 😭😭😭 (also i just subbed i luv ur content)
This is like the stuff you make up in your head when you’re bored…
the quality difference in the art is nuts
ofc they can't draw for their own and have to trace the art of someone who actually has skill
HELP WAIT MY EX BESTIE'S LINEART AND ART LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THAT SHE MAY BE THE TRACER- 😭 SHE USED TO CALL HERSELF NIGHTMARE
Me when I lie
@@DepressedBarCat ?? 1. ik ur not talking w that hazbin hotel wattpad ahh profile and 2. not everything online is a lie, maybe its true, maybe its a coincidence, maybe its not
@@DepressedBarCatare you living in their balls? how are you so sure
@@DepressedBarCatmaybe it’s coincidence… you of all people should know that
HELPPP
I was convinced in the first minute ngl
Btw Bunny's art is so good and cute, will follow
i love watching your videos btw! genuinely a nice channel with nice commentary. its rlly helpful to have someone with art experience talking about these things! keep up the good work i love your content sm
This vid just called me flat in wayyYyyY to many different languages.
The ugly art is always the traced ones lol
Dont ever trace someone elses work and try to claim its your own. Only one time tracing isnt bad and thats if u are using it to learn and understand better how to draw something. Even then do not claim the work as your own. Simply for a personal study
As an artist, this is gross. I used to trace, but not others art, ususally fanf (a long time ago idk if its the right word) and NEVER said its mine. All tracing is ok IF YOU KEEP IT TO YOUR DAMN SELF. Learn anatomy any way you want. But dont steal or trace online.period.
8:48 The plushie is alive lmaooo
By the start I knew who traced, like, you can see OBVIOUSLY WHO TRACED.
One has very shaky line art and is generally more simple and the other one is a lot more detailed and more “confident” than the other
The hair bitternightmare’s one looks unnatural and stiff, probably traced
Whenever you said OC means original character I always knew that but everyone told me it was not true ty btw
This kind of pettiness on every tracer who claims the picture they traced over "stole from them" just never stops doesn't it. 😂😂
08:40 THE PLUSH
I'm living for all of your vtuber drama videos 😂❤
When will these people just tell the truth it's so sad
If they did….. what would you be watching?
@@alejandromolinac my usual content :)
As a digital artist, accept commissions from people with UNNATURALLY complicated yet GORGEOUS OC designs.
Oof, its such a shame that they felt the need to do this, you can trace the art and credit the person you traced off of since tracing can actually help you learn to draw 😭
I can’t believe some people actually do this
“I’ll be tracer”
“I’m already tracer”
i am shocked because i was friends with her and had told me all the lies, and weeks ago she still tried to tell me more lies...
Hahaha, one time I got a dm (on another platform) accusing me of art theft, and that is how I discovered somebody had stolen my art. Very funny.
I clicked on this because it's an artist I've known for years, but apparently totally missed this mess. This is insane, I can't imagine how the tracer thought this would work.
GURL LOVE UR GREEN HAIR
I mean just looking at the disparity between their skills, we can easily see which one traced 💀
You can always tell because people who trace lack the braincells to up the pixel count when they screenshot other artists work so the lines are bulkier and more pixelated and looks less fluid
Another explanation is the artist sketching out the pose
imagine a person tracing your art and dm-ing you and they say “hey i stole your artwork but ill say that it’s from two years ago so hopefully people would believe me”
I dont mean to be rude, but its hilarious that they claim buns drawing is traced, she clearly has way higher skills
Ive been following this artist for a while and seeing them on this video is something very unusual to me 😭
I'm so addicted to this series
4:57 I personally consider myself to be pretty good at dynamic poses but I'm HORRIBLE at linework, lighting, shading, just rendering overall. (not defending this person, just saying that this is something that can totally happen!)
I, somebody with no experience, could make a better trace than this guy lmfao
imagine trying to gaslight the owner of the artwork you traced into thinking that they traced your's, interesting...
Before I even saw the original, I clocked it as traced. I barely do art anymore, but this is exactly what traced art in deviantart looked like back in the day. It’s so 1-to-1, I can’t take it seriously that anyone would side with them.
If they wanted to prove their art was from the year before (which they didn't and didn't have proof), they could've used the Metadata to show the creation of the art piece to show when it was made. But they didn't. They just said it was and expected everyone to side with her instead of the original artist. How sad of them.
Kori isn’t bitter nightmares nor bunny’s but bunny prob took Inspo from “Kori”(pose) but bitternightmares probably used the same sketch bc bunny might have posted the pose reference and bitternightmare prob thought it was gonna be in bunnies drawing
Wow, I never thought that the artist traced and tried to say it owned it and why a professional artist would try trace beginners artist. As a beginners artist, scary me that if I use reference, I want to post it, and I will never post it. I do use references for clothes and pose, but I mostly try to do my own pose because of this.
This was on my Twitter timeline, that's gotta be one of the most blood boiling situations for an artist to go through, and they were lucky that the other person was super dumb.
just looking at the thumbnail the one on the left is the traced one, the nose is in the wrong spot because the original artist didn’t put enough detail on the nose to make it obvious to someone who doesn’t know where it should be. Why would a traced piece have better colours, anatomy and added details that don’t look super off like the nose in the first one?
The only thing they would have had to do independently of the traced art work was put the nose in the correct spot which is very easy to do and they couldn’t even do that.
Edit: didn’t even have to watch the video to figure it out
I'm sorry but are those people who accused the original artist blind? You can literally see the difference in both artwork, like dude you can clearly see all the detail in the drawing of the original artist.
How can a tracer thought "lemme accuse the person I traced from" and not expect their ass to get humiliated or called out when it so clearly copied
I saw this the other day, it hurt my brain and is also just gross
you can tell someone is a tracer when it looks like their art has no plan underneath. when you draw your own sketch you know how everything is working, but when you're just tracing from something already existing you won't understand the decisions that the original artist made so the art won't make sense (ie the fingernails on the closed hand). also the linework and shading will be unconfident and shaky compared to the more skilled anatomy.
I love bunbbyart sm I've been following her for so long when I saw this I was so confused
Obviously I was on buns side but to see so many people against bun makes me sad she doesn't deserve it
Probably because she draws girls showing off a lot of skin
@@Lin-sv1un ok and it's her art she can do whatever she wants.
Buns art style is gorgeous.❤️
Bro! Just already give the record of artwork💀! Like uk maximum art software usually have Time lapse video Replay! Guys! It doesn’t need any much further arguement💀
bun's art is so pretty, i knew it was the original because the other was literally deviant art 2017 😭
8:46 Ayyy who be that back there! :D
The fingernails on the closed hands is just beyond insane 3:34
I can't believe people like that exists 😐