Mercedes SECRET TALKS with Verstappen Revealed! 😨
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Mercedes is pulling out all the stops to secure Max Verstappen away from Red Bull, with a deal worth 150 million euros per year, plus the services of Helmut Marko, and acquiring more engineering talent from Red Bull to convince Verstappen away amid Newey's departure from Christian Horner's team. Bombshell meetings are expected after the Miami GP.
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00:00 Alright guys
00:30 Sainz
03:00 Newey
10:00 Verstappen
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For all they are willing to give Max, it proves even more that Hamilton was 100% correct to leave Mercedes. They wouldn’t even give Hamilton an ambassador role but the offer max that and 3 times the salary. Hamilton owes absolutely no loyalty to Mercedes and Toto
There is no loyalty. Max has a longer future in f1 so a better investment
It is sad, but indeed Max has more future value. He will be a 4th time WDC and still young. Furthermore, Max is better than Hamilton, especially right now. Toto just got a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful 😂
The other guys banging on about better investment and better future... Erm if Marco or Max's daddy gets upset Max leaves to. That's not a safe investment seeing as all 3 are sensitive bell ends.
I don't mean to rile up any Lewis Hamilton fans (imma changed man), but in terms of performance, there's a significant gap to close. Hamilton just doesn't have the level of determination that Verstappen would have for that task. How hamilton is behaving now, like smiling after horrible performances like "hahaha we really screwed that one up lol" you will never even see from verstappen. His whole demeanor would be much more in line with the struggling mechanics and engineers in the team/factory. To illustrate, Gianpiero Lambiaso said about Verstappen that 'max taught him how to win' .. its a great compliment but it also illustrates how verstappen is nestled in a team and how instrumental he is to the proces of 'getting there'.... Lewis just isn't that guy that gets you there. Not now, but he likely never was.
that salary offer is still preposterous though. But to get the team back to winning I still rather give it to max than to lewis.
Mercedes but especially Toto, are just acting desperate at this point to save the future of the team and trying to go back to their glorious days pre '21. They're literately throwing lots of money at "solutions" like trying to hire Verstappen hoping that will solve the issues. In reality, in a few years Mercedes has lost their "dream team" of engineers and managers and now a key player is leaving them too (Hamilton). Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Man, that photo of Russel holding back tears is getting some decent mileage
😂😂
Baddest comment
more mileage than F2 champions
Boo hoo
😂😂😂
This stuff is infinitely more entertaining than the racing
I swear if y’all comment this one more time
FOR SURE, No F1TV for me at this time (maybe next year 😅)
BUT, imagine the lawsuit where Newey clarifies he has been bullied at RBR. No gardening leave required under those circumstances...
BTW, this has implications for Carlos, why should he go to a team on shambles (RBR)
We need that race director from 2021 to come back and make F1 Great Again. 😂
@@michael-masi-2021 ikr. Every race was like watching WWE. Constant twists and totally unpredictable.
Dont want to bring the race card up but honestly cant think of any other reason to refuse hamilton an ambassador's role. The tattoos and strange dress sense of hamilton maybe... but hamilton has always conducted himself correctly especially considering the pressure entering f1 at the deep end and almost always delivered.Shame on mercedes, hope hamiltion finds his 8th title with Ferrari and mercedes downfall continues as they have shown their true colours.This coming from an ex mercedes fan
I hope Hamilton never gets even on podium. So sick of him.
If merc is actually doing this then shame on them....shame on them ALL. They threw Lewis out with the garbage and didn't fight for him in 2021 championship. 😡
Hahahaha
I want to see him in a Merc for 150 Mill and fail, just to see Toto's demise.
Let it go Karen😢🤡
It's the usual thinking that the grass is greener on the other side. No one can know for sure how Max would fare driving the Mercedes - we don't even know if he wants to leave Red Bull. All is speculation right now!!!
🤣🤣🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂
Toto: drivers don’t make a difference, engineers do
Toto: here’s 150m per year max, make a difference
Horners words, not Toto’s.
@@oudloek toto said so just after the chinese gp
Hamilton must feel so insulted that they are willing to offer all this to Max, but wouldn’t give to him after all they have already done together
Their loss. I think Ferrari and Lewis are going to be a great pairing for a very long time
They're desperate to try and save Mercedes reputation above all else.
@@max1milly copium
@@chrisshelley3027 if anything this tarnishes their reputation even more if they are offering Verstappen an ambassadors role. Considering that is what Lewis asked for and he was denied
@@Shea-austinmy brother in christ
eat the sack 👍
Formula 1 is slowly turning into a episode of EastEnders
Dun dun
Always thus...
Yeah! Great isn't it?
Thanks to RB
More like Wacky Races.
Honestly F Toto. If anybody else was doing this to any of his drivers before the contracts are years before expiring, he would be having a meltdown and complaining to F1. I used to like Toto, but as the years have gone by and he’s no longer winning championships because they can’t design a car worth a damn immature bitching he’s been doing is exhausting
Well, that’s just how life works. F1 is a tough world. You have to be merciless.
Very true.
The fact Toto mangina actually would sell out Lewis contact to spoonstappen instead of giving Lewis what he requests is mind boggling. I have zero respect for Toto. I thought he was a G. He is a backstabber all along.
We are talking Max Verstappen. That’s why. Not Hamilton whose past his prime.
Then say “F Max” as well, because it takes two to tango, buddy.
This shows how lost Toto is....spending that much on Verstappen won't fix a crap car....he needs a world class engineer
indeed. Toto is acting like a clown
Getting Max means getting the engineers. Many top RB engineers would follow Max and the latter as well has supposedly stated that he wants Merc to buy RB engineers for him to end up there.
@@illyricus.max doesn’t have that pull
Dumb max fan 😂
@@jb-y1487people will follow max
Don’t be silly
Yeah, Toto doesn't know what he's doing, it's pretty clear he can't figure out how to get talent to the them. He can pay Max all he wants, no one likes max, and the car is terrible.
Newey has explicitly stated one of his bucket list items is to work with Ferrari and Lewis Hamilton. In my mind there is only one place that makes any sense for him to go.
He’d also said he’d like to work with Alonso + he’s had experience working with Honda
A Newey designed Ferrari Hypercar would be something.
@@veyronf1yea but let say the desire to work for Alonso and cancel each other out, the deciding factor would be Ferrari
2025 newey is obligated to work for redbull. Not so fast. It would at least take 2 years at best for newey to have some influence at ferrrar if he goes there. 2028 at best could be the year for ferrari.
@@veyronf1
If rumour is correct, then Aston Martin have already made a substantial offer with the $Multi-Billions of Aramco available, but it was declined. Probably because it wasn't perceived as a new adventure and the micro-managemrnt of previous experience at McLaren bubbling away under the surface. . .
Just when Rusell was beginning to grow some ego that Wollf choose him over Hamilton, he might probably be on his way out. And the funniest part is, I'm not sure any other team would take him
Maybe he can go back to Williams.
Getting Max in that Merc won't make it climb towers. The car plays much significant role than the driver.
And the race director 😅
@@michael-masi-2021Race director like michael masi do not deserve to be in F1🤣
I agree, but Max can provide maybe 0.2-0.3s per lap over the current Mercedes drivers (including Hamilton).
well of course, cause its a car after all and we are biped mammals. a bicycle plays a much more important role than the person riding the bike too.
It's about improvements over time to the car and the personnel you can attract to the team knowing you have a driver that is much more performance driven than Hamilton is and has been over the last years. For example, Hamilton's performance profile is very inconsistent, spikey. Often big off sets with his teammate and what's worse he's cool with that. Thats annoying but also very inconvenient for the engineers to benchmark the car. As you can imagine if your top driver isn't consistently showing close to the true potential of the car then what is the result of an update, what is the result of a setup change.
Probably thats where the sim correlation problem comes from as well cause essentially its saying that Hamilton cant consistently replicate the results from the sim.
@@daltonalbert6968 ahh you know nothing. 2021 was by far the most entertaining year of F1 for decades. You're welcome.
Max is wicked fast, and a great racer when on the attack… but he shits the bed and spits his dummy when put under pressure.
LOL - you must be talking about Ham and his 'brake magic' when he just ran right off track, or when he didnt swap new tires and lost many races because he couldnt handle the pressure. Tons of case where he just couldnt handle it.
Max is the best under pressure. Just his 10 win streak last year, with tons of SCs, red flags, and pouring rain that put the ultimate pressure on for him to set a record that likely will never be broken, he handled it better than anyone could
And still managed to get more points that the entire rest of the field combined in 2021.
He's a terminator.
@@bobcharlotte8724 ?
Yeah, he made a few mistakes in his first ever championship fight. It to say he shits the bed, is insane. Max had become a much more mature driver since 2021
@@Chyeahokay who’s put him under pressure since then? He’s had the superior car along with a far inferior teammate… it’s easy to look mature and calm when you’re buggering off up the track 30 seconds ahead of every one else.
The test will come when someone makes a car that can challenge him or he gets a teammate that’s a bit closer on pace in the same car.
I don’t like Verstappen, he’s petulant, petty, unsportsmanlike in the heat of battle, but he is naturally bloody quick… but he flaps when pressured, I’d like to see how he holds up under an attack by say, Alonso or Hamilton, when he’s forced to lean on the car and push without let up with them badgering in the DRS zone.
The world titles may have given him the missing piece as in the confidence when under attack, I’ll look forward to when that day comes, and if Newey leaves, that could be sooner than we think?
They say that Max is that good but he was at par with Daniel Ricardo
I’m not the biggest fan of Verstappen, but he was way younger at the time and Ricciardo was great during that time compared to when he moved to mclaren
Are you seriously comparing Max of today to Max 6-7 years ago?
Danny was prime back then, beat vettel and he left for Ferrari
Danny at his best was not even that good. Max at his best is in the realm of Senna and Schumacher.
Yes I agree Ricardo was in his Prime and Max was pretty new but now the team is completely catered towards Max he has zero pressure zero competition under pressure he would look a lot less dominating as he is, he's prone to making mistakes don't forget Saudi Arabia 2021
That George thumbnail always brings me to tears. Hahahahhaha
Why did he deserve to catch that stray?!? 😂😂😂
No driver on earth is winning a championship in a "slightly improved" Mercedes...
A month ago you thought differently.
@leotimtom6637 Less data was available then...
If one driver is, then that's Max. But yea probably even he won't be able to.
Did you notice on the Ferrari Press Release how they call Hamilton the "8" time World Champion.?
They know the truth
@@nateflores8160 I'm not a fan of Hamilton but he did get screwed on that call.
@@jorbar7726 right, we know max deserved a chip that season and so did Lewis but max did not win that race specifically which would’ve cost him the title 🤷🏽♂️
@@nateflores8160 I don't understand how Hamilton who led a parade to try to win the World Championship from Rosberg, didn't do to Verstappen what Schumacher did to Hill.
@@jorbar7726 the tire difference was everything, Hamilton was going long on those hards then they put Max with fresh softs right behind him? No way to defend such a pace difference without likely going overboard n getting a penalty
Next season, DTS will be more than 50 episodes 💀 . And the season has just started .
It better be 😁
Well they will need that many episodes to cover all the off the grid drama in F1 now.😂😂😂. Can just see them rubbing their sticky little fingers with glee DWL. With DTS it's not about the racing anymore, the behind the scene stuff is where the entertainment is at.
Let's hope so. Likely more interesting than the one track action...
I love how Mercedes under Toto couldn't find that ambassador contract for Lewis, the driver who has driven the most for Mercedes, and there were those wranglings of a contract (please check his last 3 contract negotiations) BUT somehow they are willing to pay Max €150m/year.
Clearly, an emotional and over the top decision, but hey its not my money, let Toto spend and stick it to Lewis. He has always wanted Max, he never hid this, i mean this man literally went partying in the wake of Abu Dhabi 2021 but now questions why Lewis seems happy that Mercedes are struggling (essentially questioning his professionalism).
Believe me, I can't wait for Lewis book.
Max is our guy, we pay him as much as we want.
Live for these vids atm bro. Keep it up! Most informative out there for sure
Max and Marko going to Mercedes would be the biggest "slap in the face" to Lewis. That's just wrong Toto 😮!
No Toto, No.... That is so not right.
😂😂😂@@michael-masi-2021
I'm no Toto man but do you really expect him to keep the team in shambles out of some kind of respect/loyalty to Lewis after Lewis chooses to leave the team?
@@vidrihallyour comment fails to acknowledge why Lewis left. The slap came first.
@@vidrihall Agreed. OP's wording isn't great. So Mercedes can never have a top tier driver again because they had/didn't resign Lewis?
Its not that they're trying to signing Max, its was they're offering Max that's the slap. Things Hamilton specifically wanted. Tho, I get why Mercedes is offering it.
Newey to Ferrari
Max and Wasche to Mercedes
And we feast.
Max has only one purpose- to devastate Hamilton. And he will do it . Watch how lewis is getting weaker and weaker. Max will get 8 titles. lLewis no more wins for the rest of his life.
Gardening Leave is normally used within the contract term if agreed by both parties. Since they are still paid whilst on gardening leave it would be unusal for it to run after the end of the contract. That is a restraint of trade and wouldn't work in this case I believe.
It's funny how MAX waited for NEWEY to leave Redbull then immediately after requested talks with Mercedes, shows how important NEWEY was to RedBull... Newey>Max🤔
The timing is not a coincidence ....maybe they planned this 😂
Newey has not left Redbull yet, remember?
Pretty much has left.. Consider him gone 😂😂😂@irgendeinerandomperson
@@else1133dumb max fan copium😂
@@jb-y1487 dumb Lewis fan 😁
This is the first time I watched the video in its entirety. So many teams need to take advice from Merc, like how they treat BOTH their star, second, and not quick-enough drivers and so much more. But merc, you got lost in the 0s in your bank account. Lewis wasn't just fast enough. Just like how Newey is an expert on engineering the car, Lewis is brilliant at feel and understanding what it needs. He helped you weed out who on the engineering team was capable of making a championship-winning rocket and who needed to go.
To do this to him is nothing but the freshest bullshit.
I was waiting for the daily video and here it goes. Alright guys welcome back
What I like is that you go for it in your narrative and there is not the editing cut when people flub a line and the video becomes choppy
In the 70 + years of Formula 1 Grand Prix World Championship, there have been 10 British World Champions:
Mike Hawthorn
Graham Hill
Jim Clark
John Surtees
Sir Jackie Stewart
James Hunt
Nigel Mansell
Damon Hill
Jenson Button
Sir Lewis Hamilton.
Between them they have won 20 Titles.
Of course F1 would collapse if
Sir Lewis Hamilton
George Russell
Lando Norris
Oliver Bearman
(Alex Albon - Thai)
were not on The Grid right now!
You could put god in that tractor and it still wouldn’t win so Mercedes and Toto are just wasting money thinking Max could do any different, Lewis has definitely made the right decision and there was always something more than just money to tempt him to go to Ferrari and he probably already knew what was going to happen.
I doubt he’s leaving before 2026. Wants a almost guaranteed 5th chip
I would say yes, but whether that is possible? Mercedes would have to give Antonelli a seat for 2025 and either replace him the year after with Max or kick out Russell.
If Adrian goes to Ferrari and lives in Italy he would have a great place to sail his yacht in much better weather than in the UK! Here’s hoping he does go there!👍🇦🇺🇬🇧🏁
Max isn’t that much of a big deal, it’s the car making him look superior in my opinion.
But we can't deny his racing mentality is rare.. very strong
That is not just an opinion, it is a fact! It is true of any driver and any team.
Yes the car is badass, but this man is the best on the grid as of right now despite the car.
@@pullshow.. His racing mentality is his weakest attribute and what lost him the 21 championship before Masi bailed him out. If he had just taken second in Silverstone he would have won easily.
@@AffelitoJrI would disagree. I think Alonso is probably the best driver on the grid with Max and Lewis pretty close behind.
Things that I and others may over look when it comes to deals with teams is, it's not just about money, but yes opportunities to work on special car projects (Valkerie) , but also special things like a villa on the side of the ocean, or multiple villas/homes , at no costs, access to or having their own shops with access to new technology and any tool or toy he can think of, access to cars , even open access to vintage , older race cars, and access to circuits. I mean it's endless the perks.
remember Max has not won in a toro roso, so Toto does not need Max, they need great engineers....as Lewis said the machinery makes more of a difference than the driver
When did he start saying that?
He’ll head to Ferrari and shake down his boat in the Mediterranean over the course of 2-3 years… before fully retiring and sailing round the world.
The logical option :)
My question about the cost cap. If Red Bull have been only using Newey part-time so that they don't use up too much of the budget or go over the cost cap. How would the other teams be able to offer such high sums of money if all the other big teams are at the cost cap limit or close to it already?
Car is everything in F1
Mercedes so hypocritical. Sounds like they are going to get real salty. And Sir King George......number 2 ! lol. Merc should be ashamed offering all that and shaft Lewis after what they have all gone through.
I think Hamilton doesn't care about Mercedes anymore. He is a shrewd driver who switches teams at the right moment. I have a feeling he knew more about the possibility of Newey joining Ferrari before he signed to move.
Also Max joining Mercedes would be a new challenge and both have proven to be consistent world champions.
I think Hamilton is worth more than verstapen
Stop living in the past, Verstappen is just entering his prime and Hamilton is at the end…..
@@DiscoStu65-sj6pu Verstappen has had the benefit of being the no.1 driver in RB, a team notorious for not ensuring parity between both drivers (almost as if driver no.2 gets a B spec car)
@@velocgee2874 I’d love to see Max go to Mercedes and build a dominant car from scratch, then he can be regarded as a great of the sport…. Something Lewis hasn’t done. Lewis lucked into a car with a massive power advantage to win his titles,Schumacher took the basket case that was Ferrari and gave them a direction for success which I don’t think Hamilton will do. He has to many interests away from F1 and is at the end of his career….. Max is just entering his prime and can build a team around him.
I think Joss Verstappen is concerned about Ford powering the RedBull in 2026 and if the rumours are true about Newey leaving it might be enough for him to make the jump to Mercedes.
As for Max getting an A spec car compared to his team mates I don’t think is possible in this era, sure he gets updates first but the scrutiny especially on the major teams wouldn’t allow it to happen.
He is just performing at a higher level.
@@velocgee2874 plus he will be the number one driver at Mercedes if he does decide to move.
@DiscoStu65-sj6pu
Bro when Hamilton came to Mercedes that car was far from being dominant..it’s just Lewis made it work furthermore Mercedes had done jack s..t until Lewis got there it took him a couple of years to win the WDC however what I do agree with is that Hamilton has got other outside business adventures that he’s focus on besides F1 and he’s somewhat mentioned this in the 2022 season.
It’s so annoying how these British fans and pundits keep saying f1 is dead.
It would be hard for people from other countries to imagine how similar the UK fans are to yourselves, don't let main stream media and editing at Silverstone fool you
I used to have a lot of respect for Wolff and then my respect started going down when I saw him and Mercedes partying and celebrating the 8th constructor championship instead of fighting for Lewis now that Wolff and Mercedes are showing their true faces my respect for them is over! If I understand well Lewis who brings 8 titles in the row to Mercedes don’t have an ambassador role but Max who brings 0 titles to Mercedes is about to have it,my question is why? I see only one answer,one is the back kid who came in f1 and made the impossible and the other is the “White hope”.so after loosing your sponsorship one by one because Lewis leave for Ferrari and because your car is trash you are about to lose a lot of customers!
Yeah im struggling with him as well. I was trying to be a merc fan and not just a lewis fan, but what i thought was how Merc operates has been a farse
Marko blows his trumpet on every note but on the notes of Horner and Newey
Aston Martin has the same design options as Ferrari? F1, Hypercar, and autos. What is more likely an Aston Martin car or Ferrari car with a designed by Newey badge on the side?
All of these rumors of Verstappen going to Mercedes are way more plausible now that Newey is leaving Red Bull.
Thst Russell pic kills me every time 😂
So Merc think Max can make the car faster?
Lewis couldn’t 😂
@@henkxd6414 after eight titles I guess not
That very optimistic. I don't remember Toro Rosso winning races with Max
Well this year defo won't be boring for sure
Adrian Newey to FIA would actually be a more bomb move. We might actually have good regulations and proper policing then.
You have to say. This season behind the scenes is way more fun then on the track. Drive to survive will be the no 1 watched programme on Netflix. Im sure their influence and the incoming money from all the sponsors has no influence on any of this.....
Newey had a serious head injury last August and skipped a lot of time on the track. Some reports say that he haven't even seen RB20 before it was released to the public.
In all fairness people are so wrapped up around Newey that they don't notice Pierre Waché that was recently promoted to Newey's position. He is the man that is actually behind the RB20 and handled the 2nd part of 2023 season.
If only he was a brit, maybe there would be more recognition, but the media bias is strong.
Not really secret talks when this guy knows.
Newey working with the FIA to help them write the regulations would be HUGE. No one knows the workings of the cars better and he's often had strong opinions about changing regulations. He could actually give the sport a massive boost
What’s even more interesting about this is since Max will be leaving. There will no longer be a top driver in that Red Bull which means the next season could be anyone’s game. A Mercedes that is better than this year and a Ferrari that is better than this year could definitely challenge Red Bull as long as Max is not in the seat.
RBR will still win next year, no doubt about that. The car is dominant period. We will see from 2026 onwards but remember aero does not change, they will only allow changes to the engine.
What this means is a team like RBR only need to sort out engine whereas teams like Mercedes Scientific and Research, need to keep on researching about grounds effect and they need to come up with a dominant engine (effectively they might need to start from scratch again).
The only thing that might save Mercedes is scrapping the cost cap.
There is something that I think Toto Wolff and Mercedes need to consider here. If Horner is, in fact, poison to team cohesion, that doesn't mean Jos Verstappen is not. And Marko for that matter. It's easy to see a scenario where the Verstappen-Marko team rolls in and doesn't want to let Wolff be Wolff.
150 million is ridiculous. Max is undoubtedly a good driver. He’s beaten most of his team mates at one point or another and over the last few years has been unstoppable. But, again, he has the fastest car. When all you have to do is beat your team mate, and Max hasn’t had any issue doing that over the last 3 years, it isn’t much of a challenge. That doesn’t mean he can turn a tractor into a race winning machine. If Merc can give him the car then I have no doubt he’ll walk over Russell. If we can get to a point where Ferrari, Merc and Red Bull have potential race winning machines that is a very exciting prospect.
If merc gets Max, they might be able to leverage that to get a few more RB guys including Newey, considering the problem for Newey is Horner.
FIA should do everything in their power to get Max to Mercedes - for the sake of keeping the sport interesting on track.
Mercs just being petty to get back at Sir LH, but whatever. Every decision he has made to go to another team has been spot on!!! People, know your self-worth!
Peter Windsor sources questionable?
I don't mind a bit of arrogance in your presenting, quite funny actually.
But to question Mr Windsor in that way makes you look very silly young man or even boy in comparison to him.
Peter Windsor often gets things wrong, his RUclips channel is unwatchable.
This guys head is wiggling like he is driving in a porpoising f1 car, please let him keep his mouth shut😅😅
That's a lot of money to throw at Verstappen just to protect Hamilton's records🤣
They are desperate that their diversity driver is losing.
I don't think Red Bull could enforce Newey not to go elsewhere for too long, certainly not 2027.
I’d bet Wolf wants out so it’s makes sense to bring in Marco & Max then when James is ready he’ll come back from Williams.
Gardening leave clauses are often very difficult to enforce, if they challenged and found to be unfair, then they are likely to be null and void. If they are enforceable Red Bull would have to shell out for Newey and who they get to replace him.
Current F1 is basically 85% car 10% driver 5% luck. Verstappen in a Merc isn't going to be winning anything while they remain 4th/5th best car on the grid
Best outcome for RB would be to shed Verstappen, Marko, and Jos and sign Sainz and let Lawson to have the other seat. The Verstappen camp drama is just too much. If Newey is a casualty of that, then so be it and this is coming from a Verstappen fanboy…
Verstappen camp? Horner you mean...
What are you smoking, it's Horner that ruins all relationships out of his hunger for power. The guy believes he is pretty much Louis XIV now: I am the state!
@@tycondero1647 If you say so…
Sergio Perez is the real winner here having Red Bull Racing all to himself.
He's gone too, as a consequence of 2023
I think A. Newey should be an consultant for the new regulations in 2026 and onwards. Since FIA are having issues in nailing down the new regulation for 2026.
the only reason F1 is inviting andretti to "meetings" (suspiciously every time they come to USA) is just so the American market can get their hopes up.
A couple years ago I would never believe a rumour saying that Verstappen might go to Mercedes. With all of the drama this year though, I think that Verstappen is not about all the bs on Red Bull's side. I doubt he'd hop onto a sinking ship though, I remember Alonso saying recently why would he go to a slower team (mercedes). My dream right now is probably a Verstappen/Alonso pairing for the 2026 Aston Honda but it's like a 1% chance that happens lol.
There’s a lot to unpack here. First off, Wolff is offering Max the contract that Lewis wanted but was denied. Either Mercedes doesn’t want Lewis as an ambassador due to his politics or they believe Max is that much better. Secondly, if they did sign Max to this big contract, you can bet Georgie will be looking for a new home in a year or two to make way for their future star, Antonelli. If only the racing was this exciting …speaking of, Miami parking lot GP coming up 😖
We haven't seen any kind of documentation that Newey would leave RB, but that seems to be the least of the problem 😂
Regarding Newey`s age: the 65 years old is the new 45 now!
I read of Rory Bern still guiding Ferrari. I am sure he qualifies as a fossil in your books. He seems to be fitting in well in Italy. Newey's new boat could be for sailing in Venice. Also Hamilton doesnt move to a new team unless there is a secrete weapon that gives him a guarantee. Lauda and Brawn did show him an engine. Otherwise the silver cars of Schumacher and Rosberg struggle to get on the podium could not have convinced Lewis to leave Mclaren. Maybe what Elkan and Vasseur showed Lewis was Newey's MOU to join in 2025. There had to be something convincing for Lewis, and I dont think it was Ferrari's 2022 and 2023 form. My two cents ...
Why would Verstappen want to drive that car when he’s got that rocket at Red Bull?
it`s British and diversity who want, nobody else.
It seems to me RB need Sainz. Checo the s getting older and he may not keep up for long so they need a replacement in Sainz and if Max leaves then he can take his place. RB need to up their offer. Now Sains is figuritively in the driver’s seat. RB without newey is not that important.
Now i get how sebastean vettel stayed at 4 titles even after winning 4 in a row earlier in his career
I know this is not on point but I’m still interested to crowd source some opinions especially with the pending scoring changes.
Thinking more about how to make the championship run more exciting to watch, I find it interesting that in F1 you can declare a champion before the season ends. Those remaining events are still massive productions and people pay a lot of money to go see the race even though all the main titles have been decided.
In an effort to make every race count, why not implement a championship/finals race similar to how other sports work up to a major deciding event/match? Hear me out and then tell me why this is terrible:
1. The final race of the year is the championship round to determine the driver championship.
2. Only the top 10 performing drivers qualify for the championship round. This way all the races and points leading up to the championship round have more meaning but not everyone qualifies making this an exclusive championship round sort.
3. The starting grid for the final race is decided based on points ranking leading up to the championship race so everyone is still fighting for something right up to the race.
4. The location of the championship race changes each year kind of like the Superbowl.
5. No team orders during the championship race. It's everyone for themselves.
I'm sure this idea is not a bulletproof plan (probably far from it), but I'm trying to brainstorm ways where a driver can dominate like Verstappen has and get rewarded for it but still making all the races still count for something, leading up to a maga final event.
NASCAR did something like that, and it didn’t work. Ratings are down, but their braintrust is stubborn.
Well it doesn’t seem so secret now
i mean they are running with a rumor from the BBC... like really.. the fucking bbc of all places.. im not british but hoyl fuck everyone knows how bad the BBC is.. CBC is the same way..
you would be more informed for not watching the BBC, than watching it.
Oh my god 🤣 Verstappan haters freaking out is absolutely hilarious
Verstaplen fangirls freaking out is more hilarious
@@pigalow2002 Aww someone is butt hurt that Merc decline Hamiltons ambassadorial deal and proposed the same deal with waayy more money to Verstappan 🤣
yup, they are clowns making up all kinds of stories.
Imagine all the fans that have been bit**ing about him and red bull the last 3 years, then he might end up in the team, All them will be following Lewis to Ferrari though
😂😂 As if Wolf and Mercedes did not no who is the best driver on the grid. The offer says it all.
I dont think anyone is going anywhere of note. Just shaking a box of possibilities.
Starting to worry about Sainz though..he plays the game to long he as good as he is and obviously the best free agent sign could find himself without a drive, Merc could put Kimi in the seat right away with Toto saying he regrets not getting a young max and missing out I could see him putting kimi in the seat right out the gate instead of going to Williams, Sauber/Audi got Hulk and could sign or retain Bottas or Zhou and Haas obviously A. Doesn't have Sainz money and Oli Bearman is def headed there. Plus Liam Lawson needs a drive Redbull could end up retaining checo even though I think he's already out the door their just letting him think if he performs decent enough that he will get re-signed but I feel he's out and I think if it was up to Carlos he wants that Redbull seat hence the waiting game instead of just giving Merc. the yes let's sign on the line. Weird to think that just 3-4yrs ago Merc was the most sought after seat and everyone would of gave everything to be in a Merc now it's different and Redbull has the clout even though i think 25' is the last year we see dominance by them.
I sure hope Trump shows up.. as for Max possible move to Mercedes, that would be like Schumacher going to Ferrari.. if Max does this and goes on to win titles I believe we will have to look at Hamilton with an asterisk beside his name.
Was the PA involved with JawZ , Horner, AND Newey???!!!
Remember what vettal said when he won his last championship
Toto got himself a new apprentice. One far younger and more powerful 😂
Why is Peter Windsor source not reliable?
If i were Carlos, i sign for audi ,get the money, and let them build the car around me. With the right team members audi can buid a competitive car.
The FIA would love to have Newey .... unfortunately they only have beer money, cannot afford champagne.
Toto and Mercedes are starting to sound very very dirty
Merc could give Marko a job - doesn't mean they have to actually use him.
If Newey has ordered a boat costing £27m then money isn't going to be the main motivation.
Just like max a winning driver wants a winning car which Merc can't build, as for Marko going to Mercedes, I think he ran a team racing Merc cars in the past, so there's a weak Merc connection there.
But it's all speculation and everyone is guessing only the relevant parties know what's going on
Comments about Mercedes offer big money to people is a slap in Lewis 's face 🎉
"No reason to go to Mercedes?!" Mercedes will have the best powertrain come 2026. Combine that with Newey The Wind Whisperer and you'll have an unbeatable car.
Has anyone thought about newey going to Audi?
Ford won’t go anywhere with RBR CANT wait for it and for Mercedes they have found themselves as mid field team 😂😂😂 can’t wait to see the Red Bull fans in 26 😂😂😂
If this is the case, then truly Toto knows no shame what so ever.
Don’t be surprised if Marko, Newey and Verstappen all go to Mercedes
Lots of cash to go around there 😂
I wouldn't. But I'd think it's less likely for Newey to go to Merc. Vibes only- I feel like he's gonna either retire or go to Ferrari.
Doesn’t seem like newey is fond of jos