How to make the PERFECT Sub Bass in Serum
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Using this simple tip you will learn how to make the perfect sub bass in Xfer Serum.
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Thank you for not only sharing the ‘how’ but also the ‘why.’
Yes! Form follows function
exactly yeah
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. Thank you for this, you're a really underrated channel.
Oscilloscope (in conjunction with SPAN) has become an integral part of my production process based on the information you present in this video. Very well done. I find myself coming back to this video to refresh the theory in my head every so often.
this is a good demonstration, super easy to understand
You have no idea how much this just changed my music production
Absolutely amazing video, even 3 years later. thank you!!!
Not enough music producers understand the science behind it. Could be a fascinating course
Wow! That is mind-blowing. Subscribed!
Thank you for such a short and easy to understand video many thanks to you sir
shambhalove in top left corner! love the tutorial!
short vid. all i needed. perfect.
Maximum volume, Minimum voltage... 💡 Now I can get my headroom! Thanks Dude!
dude this tutorial is absolutely goated
so good. TY loved this angle...
That masterclass is so so good, thank you for this video though cause seeing it explained by somebody else also helps.
Perfect man! I watched a Mr. Bill tutorial on this, but really wanted to know how to achieve this in Serum... Thanks!
The Melda saturator (free plugin) is another neat thing to play with here. It lets you add harmonics by number. If levels are balanced out equally, it's pretty clear that saturator is pretty worthwhile to use. Wave shape stays the same, provided it is attenuated while looking at oscillascope. It creates more harmonics above the 3rd, and amplitude is almost totally not effected when looking at Voxengo SPAN (free plugin). Under SPAN, we can see the 2nd harmonic is low enough to not be able to see it unless you increase the 2nd harmonic directly in Serum to find out where it is. The sound with the Melda saturator is pretty nice sounding. You can still hear it when the volume on the speakers is reduced to not being able to hear it unsaturated.
Also, playing different notes greatly affects the oscillascope findings. Probably best to create one perfect note, and then use that in a sampler. I'll probably try that out today.
Very cool video!
creating the perfect note and sampling it is brilliant
Amazing informations, man! 🤟❤
Thank you for that explanation, you clearly know what you're talking about. Quality content!
Brother. I absolutely have no idea how to thank you lol. Just made a patch usin this...and dam.... hundredz ov endless tutorials and this the one that actually stuckkkk.. bra dis sub lit af hahaaa :D
Absolute gem 💎
Thank you for giving me not only the how but the why as well very constructive and very nice of you ,you thought me a new technique and I’m grateful respect brother
this was fantastic, thank you.
AMAZING!
Oh my god! Insane! subscribed
It's a nice technique when using a sub that only has one note. But is there a sensible way to make a patch that has level and phase perfectly matched for each note you can play?
The purpose is that youre more so matching that fundamental sub note to the kick's fundamental from my understanding. But there is also a deeper dive for this technique on Mr Bill's channel called Make Insane Subs I think.
Thank you very much man. Appreciate the content!
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ha yeah :P I notice a physical difference in the body too on a big rig. The speakers being further forward and back for longer the way the air gets pushed is more powerful too. So not just headroom also powerrrrr haha :)
@@KermodeMusic great explanation in your video. I’ll sub 👍
Thanks mate! That helped a lot! Lovin how your subby bass sounds!
Wonderful tutorial as always. You’ve got a gift my friend, please keep up the great work
Instant subscribe!! Well explained
4 years later still highly missed
Great explanation man, I finally understand how to manipulate bass and how it works thank you
great video, thank you.
Dude, thanks so much!
Man great serum tutorial your so underrated make more vids
this is insane. thanks for the video!
Extremely helpful thank you!!
That’s alotta knowledge
Everyone always talks about the perfect sub, but what about the perfect dom?
thanks man🙏
Mind sharing a link to that oscilloscope? :) Great vid
Super helpful
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Gold!
Game changer
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This was insanely helpful and informative 💕 thank u so much
I’m not sure that I agree with this concept. I’m open to being proven wrong, but given that the waveform is ‘flat’ at either peak, isn’t it effectively exerting no (or much lesser energy) at any given point? I think the idea that the perceived loudness of this waveshape is greater than that of a sinewave is subjective and debatable. I watched the Mr Bill lecture and I get that this concept works on a macro scale (ie. compression on a snare to bring up the tail) but on a micro scale (a single waveform) I’m not sure it really makes sense.
i see that shambs logo in the background
You need better light overhead, it’s a little dark right now. Also it just works better to record straight on instead of from an angle
Thank you
Really cool tip, thanks a lot man! :)
awesome video !
Thanks for the video! Curious... do you usually use root/whole notes when you add sub bass or do you have it follow the bass guitar note for note?
I'm producing some indie pop music and am trying to beef up my chorus'. Thanks!
I think it will sound most cohesive if it is following the same note as your bass guitar. If you're going to have a clean sub underneath it's also pretty vital you cut that sub range out of your guitar, and then if possible process them together a bit to make them cohesive. Perhaps some compression and light distortion/saturation to glue them together.
If you want to get super nitty gritty you would phase align the bass with the sub to make it as clean as possible.
If your bass guitar recording has sub in it though, you're probably best using the sub in it for the most natural sound. Some multi-band compression could help balance the sub in the guitar and then you can turn up the whole band after the compression. Or the right EQ can go a long way as well.
Also, I should say the technique in this video may not be your best bet if you're layering it with your bass guitar. The added harmonic in the sub will sit around the nice bass guitar harmonics. You're probably best just having a pure sine wave without any harmonics, layered with the guitar with the sub EQd out, and then processing them back together with a bit of distortion/saturation. If you choose to add a seperate sub instead of boosting the bass in the actual guitar recording, which is your most natural option
@@KermodeMusic Thank you for the quick reply! Very helpful.
Have a link to the Mr. Bill tutorial mentioned by chance?
Another rad tutorial! I was wondering if you have any tips on pre-transients... particularly in regards to helping a groove. My tunes feel very on the beat, think I should switch something up
I use reverse hats going into kicks and snares quite a bit. Very very subtly, just barely audible . Other than that I think using swing works tried and true
@@KermodeMusic right on, gives something to kind of lead into the drums, thanks dude. I will try it out :) btw I applied your tip about keeping the gain levels similar across presets and it works great! Really reduces the amount of compressing and clipping I have to deal with later on in the mix
Thank u
my oscilloscope just plays out a high pitched sign wave forever. how do i detect sound form serum? I'm using the same one you're using, but it looks a bit different as well
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Hello! I followed this tutorial and everything came out sounding great, however I'm having hard time getting the sub bass in tune with my track. When I use the semitone, fine, and CRS parameters in the wavetable section to change the pitch I lose the quality of the bass sound. I slapped on an ableton pitch device but I am only able to change in semitones and I can't fine tune it. Any other suggestions?
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1:10 "mixing book". Could you tell us the name of this mixing book please?
I believe it was called mixing with your mind. It's been several years since I went to school
@@KermodeMusic Thanks. It seems to have some good reviews. And it looks to be quite an obscure book that took special effort to get -- what did you think of it?
But if you play a different note you have to change the phase again, right? So this technique doesn't quite work for bass melodies or am I wrong?
as long as the synth you are using has all the harmonics start from the same position then you should have no issue
The problen is that the second osc is playing G instead of C
what is the name of the book?
Isnt the FFT_ADD_2NTHS oscillator the same principle?
What was the book you studied in school?
It won't let me fill bin 3 up to 100% only 70ish? Is there a setting I'm missing?
Amazing video
Similar concept to soft clipping. If you think over this
3:50 What is "3rd Harmonic" if you don't mind answering?
The 3rd note of the scale
So quick question. Why is my sound clicking when I play a note? Is there any way to fix this?
try making the attack a tiny bit slower
I always just add like a 5ms attack I think. (the measurement on that might be wrong lol) but just a tiny bit and that initial click should go away
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Where can I get that serum theme omg 😮
That's the Feed Me skin :0
neat
How would i Do this to a kick drum?
You would create the low end of your drum using this technique, and then likely layer noise or other samples high end/transient to create powerful drum
Omg what is this serum skin? I love it
That is the Feed Me skin :)
thank you for sharing your knowledge and great vid
Stellar tip, and very clearly explained! Thanks man!
why not just do a square wave then?
you could use a square and filter it down, though many filters will shift the phase of the harmonics
I wonder who was the first person to find this out, and why haha
everything gives a sense, but u can't use it in a standard edm track
Why would my wavetable editor only allow me to go to 75 %
same here
You guys figure this one out?
Just asked same question lol
Right click then scale frequency values by bin index right at bottom and it clicked to 100
MORE RMS FOR LESS DB
ngl dude you only need one osc to do that you can just draw it it on the one osc tbh on serum or operator no cap
I like being able to automate the harmonic
@@KermodeMusic i see
So i follow every step from the beginning, but your bass is way deeper than the one i have
Hmmm I'm unsure why it would sound different. I would double check you're playing in the same octave
You asked people to sub and didn’t even make a sub joke
Dude, do you actually create music or you just sit all day altering the sinewaves?
Nice upload. You might enjoy my videos
Doesn’t work at all
mind.blown
this was exactly what i wanted when i typed in how to. consice !
I wish serum could be put in mono
by default there is no difference between the lft and right channels so it is in mono :)
Dude thank you!