How to make the PERFECT Sub Bass in Serum

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024
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Комментарии • 133

  • @lowfrequency1180
    @lowfrequency1180 4 года назад +152

    Thank you for not only sharing the ‘how’ but also the ‘why.’

    • @gypsydisc2019
      @gypsydisc2019 2 года назад +3

      Yes! Form follows function

    • @schqrr
      @schqrr Год назад

      exactly yeah

  • @GLamoRousCooKie
    @GLamoRousCooKie 3 года назад +25

    Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. Thank you for this, you're a really underrated channel.

  • @haulee4641
    @haulee4641 Год назад +10

    Oscilloscope (in conjunction with SPAN) has become an integral part of my production process based on the information you present in this video. Very well done. I find myself coming back to this video to refresh the theory in my head every so often.

  • @prashanth348
    @prashanth348 15 дней назад

    Mr bill showed the best method. Thanks for resharing

  • @bourianboubbov9937
    @bourianboubbov9937 Месяц назад

    Maaan... this was FANTASTIC! Simple, to the point!! One of my greatest inspirators (that a word?) is Mike Stavrou. The first time I read about minimum voltage max... was in his book Mixing with your mind, so I love the concept but never had Seen this applied to electronic music so elegantly! Good stuff!

  • @jzxph-8244
    @jzxph-8244 9 месяцев назад

    this is a good demonstration, super easy to understand

  • @spicymemechannel
    @spicymemechannel Год назад +1

    You have no idea how much this just changed my music production

  • @valhallaatmedawg6446
    @valhallaatmedawg6446 3 года назад +5

    The Melda saturator (free plugin) is another neat thing to play with here. It lets you add harmonics by number. If levels are balanced out equally, it's pretty clear that saturator is pretty worthwhile to use. Wave shape stays the same, provided it is attenuated while looking at oscillascope. It creates more harmonics above the 3rd, and amplitude is almost totally not effected when looking at Voxengo SPAN (free plugin). Under SPAN, we can see the 2nd harmonic is low enough to not be able to see it unless you increase the 2nd harmonic directly in Serum to find out where it is. The sound with the Melda saturator is pretty nice sounding. You can still hear it when the volume on the speakers is reduced to not being able to hear it unsaturated.
    Also, playing different notes greatly affects the oscillascope findings. Probably best to create one perfect note, and then use that in a sampler. I'll probably try that out today.
    Very cool video!

    • @notgoon
      @notgoon 3 года назад +1

      creating the perfect note and sampling it is brilliant

  • @OfficialGainGuru
    @OfficialGainGuru 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you for such a short and easy to understand video many thanks to you sir

  • @yemreozturk
    @yemreozturk 4 месяца назад

    Wow! That is mind-blowing. Subscribed!

  • @anstudios6569
    @anstudios6569 8 месяцев назад

    Absolutely amazing video, even 3 years later. thank you!!!

  • @bvcketsbass
    @bvcketsbass 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful tutorial as always. You’ve got a gift my friend, please keep up the great work

  • @chiantighalson4491
    @chiantighalson4491 3 года назад +1

    Perfect man! I watched a Mr. Bill tutorial on this, but really wanted to know how to achieve this in Serum... Thanks!

  • @ycedi
    @ycedi 4 года назад +2

    That masterclass is so so good, thank you for this video though cause seeing it explained by somebody else also helps.

  • @drivebyninjastar
    @drivebyninjastar 8 месяцев назад

    shambhalove in top left corner! love the tutorial!

  • @shawnbernierofficial
    @shawnbernierofficial 4 месяца назад

    so good. TY loved this angle...

  • @LonelySenpai666
    @LonelySenpai666 2 года назад

    dude this tutorial is absolutely goated

  • @pradheesandeepana
    @pradheesandeepana 3 года назад

    That’s alotta knowledge

  • @Nothingloads
    @Nothingloads 4 месяца назад

    short vid. all i needed. perfect.

  • @miquelbiggs5721
    @miquelbiggs5721 19 дней назад

    I get this but seeing as the sine wave flattens out at max amplitude (Alberto for longer) doesn’t that mean it’s effectively moving less therefore cone is moving less air ie not as powerful?

  • @kevinwilliams4855
    @kevinwilliams4855 2 месяца назад

    Maximum volume, Minimum voltage... 💡 Now I can get my headroom! Thanks Dude!

  • @lukasiewicz
    @lukasiewicz Год назад

    this was fantastic, thank you.

  • @Zu.wav..
    @Zu.wav.. Год назад

    Thank you for that explanation, you clearly know what you're talking about. Quality content!

  • @rwharrington87
    @rwharrington87 2 года назад

    Thank you very much man. Appreciate the content!

  • @cotsudnb
    @cotsudnb 24 дня назад

    I don't understand much, I evaluate and the whole music theory, but practice teaches me to make music, I took a lot of information from your video, for which I thank you! On OSC A now I'm doing Analog - Analog BD SIN and just adjust the parameters to look like on your oscilloscope :Dddd haha

  • @BotanBeyaz
    @BotanBeyaz Год назад

    Brother. I absolutely have no idea how to thank you lol. Just made a patch usin this...and dam.... hundredz ov endless tutorials and this the one that actually stuckkkk.. bra dis sub lit af hahaaa :D

  • @NPC_averagemale003
    @NPC_averagemale003 10 месяцев назад

    Oh my god! Insane! subscribed

  • @niccko
    @niccko Год назад

    Gold!

  • @CosminPerisan
    @CosminPerisan Год назад +1

    Amazing informations, man! 🤟❤

  • @k-hz2742
    @k-hz2742 Год назад

    Absolute gem 💎

  • @Thatguy-yi1rx
    @Thatguy-yi1rx 3 года назад

    Thank you for giving me not only the how but the why as well very constructive and very nice of you ,you thought me a new technique and I’m grateful respect brother

  • @peterpetrovski8053
    @peterpetrovski8053 3 года назад +10

    It's a nice technique when using a sub that only has one note. But is there a sensible way to make a patch that has level and phase perfectly matched for each note you can play?

    • @18Hands
      @18Hands 2 года назад

      The purpose is that youre more so matching that fundamental sub note to the kick's fundamental from my understanding. But there is also a deeper dive for this technique on Mr Bill's channel called Make Insane Subs I think.

  • @MONEYMINDSET-ENTERTAINMENT
    @MONEYMINDSET-ENTERTAINMENT 2 года назад

    Thanks mate! That helped a lot! Lovin how your subby bass sounds!

  • @ehaccbrazil
    @ehaccbrazil 10 месяцев назад

    AMAZING!

  • @dretea.7673
    @dretea.7673 2 года назад

    Instant subscribe!! Well explained

  • @nebroskitheraut6705
    @nebroskitheraut6705 4 года назад +1

    Dude, thanks so much!

  • @schqrr
    @schqrr Год назад

    thanks man🙏

  • @TheColorofQuantum
    @TheColorofQuantum 4 года назад

    this is insane. thanks for the video!

  • @alecvega623
    @alecvega623 4 года назад

    Great explanation man, I finally understand how to manipulate bass and how it works thank you

  • @SeleniumOfficial
    @SeleniumOfficial 2 года назад

    Extremely helpful thank you!!

  • @Graham_Wideman
    @Graham_Wideman 4 года назад +1

    1:10 "mixing book". Could you tell us the name of this mixing book please?

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  4 года назад

      I believe it was called mixing with your mind. It's been several years since I went to school

    • @Graham_Wideman
      @Graham_Wideman 4 года назад

      @@KermodeMusic Thanks. It seems to have some good reviews. And it looks to be quite an obscure book that took special effort to get -- what did you think of it?

  • @Mushroomhead88
    @Mushroomhead88 Год назад

    great video, thank you.

  • @BLumDAbuSS
    @BLumDAbuSS 3 года назад

    It won't let me fill bin 3 up to 100% only 70ish? Is there a setting I'm missing?

  • @AaronPayne_dnb
    @AaronPayne_dnb 4 года назад +1

    Mind sharing a link to that oscilloscope? :) Great vid

  • @_DeathDreams_
    @_DeathDreams_ 3 года назад +5

    Everyone always talks about the perfect sub, but what about the perfect dom?

  • @henrik5284
    @henrik5284 4 года назад

    You need better light overhead, it’s a little dark right now. Also it just works better to record straight on instead of from an angle

  • @martinezdecap
    @martinezdecap 2 года назад +1

    Hello! I followed this tutorial and everything came out sounding great, however I'm having hard time getting the sub bass in tune with my track. When I use the semitone, fine, and CRS parameters in the wavetable section to change the pitch I lose the quality of the bass sound. I slapped on an ableton pitch device but I am only able to change in semitones and I can't fine tune it. Any other suggestions?

  • @shayschreurs5887
    @shayschreurs5887 Год назад

    my oscilloscope just plays out a high pitched sign wave forever. how do i detect sound form serum? I'm using the same one you're using, but it looks a bit different as well

  • @Ben-by7ul
    @Ben-by7ul 2 года назад

    Isnt the FFT_ADD_2NTHS oscillator the same principle?

  • @bobbybowring4499
    @bobbybowring4499 3 месяца назад

  • @denispsyful1
    @denispsyful1 4 года назад

    Really cool tip, thanks a lot man! :)

  • @brenmac
    @brenmac 3 года назад

    thank you for sharing your knowledge and great vid

  • @taitehartman7924
    @taitehartman7924 Год назад

    the goat

  • @monisprabu1174
    @monisprabu1174 4 года назад +1

    Man great serum tutorial your so underrated make more vids

  • @TheCoolkidmatt
    @TheCoolkidmatt 3 года назад

    This was insanely helpful and informative 💕 thank u so much

  • @spencerrobinson5386
    @spencerrobinson5386 4 года назад

    Another rad tutorial! I was wondering if you have any tips on pre-transients... particularly in regards to helping a groove. My tunes feel very on the beat, think I should switch something up

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  4 года назад +1

      I use reverse hats going into kicks and snares quite a bit. Very very subtly, just barely audible . Other than that I think using swing works tried and true

    • @spencerrobinson5386
      @spencerrobinson5386 4 года назад

      @@KermodeMusic right on, gives something to kind of lead into the drums, thanks dude. I will try it out :) btw I applied your tip about keeping the gain levels similar across presets and it works great! Really reduces the amount of compressing and clipping I have to deal with later on in the mix

  • @mpmaxanator
    @mpmaxanator 9 месяцев назад

    legendary

  • @olivernight
    @olivernight 5 месяцев назад

    Game changer

  • @MrMrMrMrT
    @MrMrMrMrT 4 месяца назад

    4 years later still highly missed

  • @Nick-ci6mw
    @Nick-ci6mw 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! Curious... do you usually use root/whole notes when you add sub bass or do you have it follow the bass guitar note for note?
    I'm producing some indie pop music and am trying to beef up my chorus'. Thanks!

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  8 месяцев назад

      I think it will sound most cohesive if it is following the same note as your bass guitar. If you're going to have a clean sub underneath it's also pretty vital you cut that sub range out of your guitar, and then if possible process them together a bit to make them cohesive. Perhaps some compression and light distortion/saturation to glue them together.
      If you want to get super nitty gritty you would phase align the bass with the sub to make it as clean as possible.
      If your bass guitar recording has sub in it though, you're probably best using the sub in it for the most natural sound. Some multi-band compression could help balance the sub in the guitar and then you can turn up the whole band after the compression. Or the right EQ can go a long way as well.

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  8 месяцев назад +1

      Also, I should say the technique in this video may not be your best bet if you're layering it with your bass guitar. The added harmonic in the sub will sit around the nice bass guitar harmonics. You're probably best just having a pure sine wave without any harmonics, layered with the guitar with the sub EQd out, and then processing them back together with a bit of distortion/saturation. If you choose to add a seperate sub instead of boosting the bass in the actual guitar recording, which is your most natural option

    • @Nick-ci6mw
      @Nick-ci6mw 8 месяцев назад

      @@KermodeMusic Thank you for the quick reply! Very helpful.

  • @davidmcginnis16
    @davidmcginnis16 2 года назад

    Super helpful

  • @ncxtel
    @ncxtel 10 месяцев назад

    Where can I get that serum theme omg 😮

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад

      That's the Feed Me skin :0

  • @matteostroppa9316
    @matteostroppa9316 Год назад

    Hey which model of Audeze headphones do you own? Can you actually produce music while traveling just using the headphones? i never have been able to do so...

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад

      The are the Audeze LCD-MX4. They are portable for sure, and the quality is impeccable. As for portability, because they are so high quality sometimes I fear travelling with them...BUT...they do come with an amazing hard case to keep them safe :)

  • @IstyManame
    @IstyManame 3 месяца назад

    3:50 What is "3rd Harmonic" if you don't mind answering?

    • @StollerEaven
      @StollerEaven 3 месяца назад

      The 3rd note of the scale

  • @kylehoward7094
    @kylehoward7094 2 года назад

    awesome video !

  • @DJEventHorizonz
    @DJEventHorizonz 4 года назад

    Have a link to the Mr. Bill tutorial mentioned by chance?

  • @prodstel
    @prodstel 11 месяцев назад

    what is the name of the book?

  • @Cryptixx604
    @Cryptixx604 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @doinmusic
    @doinmusic Год назад

    But if you play a different note you have to change the phase again, right? So this technique doesn't quite work for bass melodies or am I wrong?

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад

      as long as the synth you are using has all the harmonics start from the same position then you should have no issue

  • @08JSBeats
    @08JSBeats 2 года назад +1

    The problen is that the second osc is playing G instead of C

  • @justjbeats
    @justjbeats 3 года назад

    Genius

  • @gangsterdistrict1154
    @gangsterdistrict1154 3 года назад

    Amazing video
    Similar concept to soft clipping. If you think over this

  • @AR-ey6gn
    @AR-ey6gn 3 месяца назад

    How would i Do this to a kick drum?

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  3 месяца назад

      You would create the low end of your drum using this technique, and then likely layer noise or other samples high end/transient to create powerful drum

  • @КиранДонлон
    @КиранДонлон 6 месяцев назад

    What was the book you studied in school?

  • @tkoze
    @tkoze 3 года назад

    i see that shambs logo in the background

  • @whogotdubs
    @whogotdubs 3 года назад +1

    I’m not sure that I agree with this concept. I’m open to being proven wrong, but given that the waveform is ‘flat’ at either peak, isn’t it effectively exerting no (or much lesser energy) at any given point? I think the idea that the perceived loudness of this waveshape is greater than that of a sinewave is subjective and debatable. I watched the Mr Bill lecture and I get that this concept works on a macro scale (ie. compression on a snare to bring up the tail) but on a micro scale (a single waveform) I’m not sure it really makes sense.

  • @doctorslaps1991
    @doctorslaps1991 10 месяцев назад

    The loudness wars are alive and well with this one 🔥 🔥 🔥

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад +1

      ha yeah :P I notice a physical difference in the body too on a big rig. The speakers being further forward and back for longer the way the air gets pushed is more powerful too. So not just headroom also powerrrrr haha :)

    • @doctorslaps1991
      @doctorslaps1991 10 месяцев назад

      @@KermodeMusic great explanation in your video. I’ll sub 👍

  • @Beyond_The_Fade555
    @Beyond_The_Fade555 Год назад

    Thank u

  • @telli6931
    @telli6931 3 года назад

    Ty

  • @PelletJamie
    @PelletJamie 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not enough music producers understand the science behind it. Could be a fascinating course

  • @djcj
    @djcj 4 года назад

    neat

  • @Raphael-fi8hd
    @Raphael-fi8hd 3 года назад

    Omg what is this serum skin? I love it

  • @dpadilla1127
    @dpadilla1127 Год назад

    bro did not lie hahah

  • @kevindelvalle6895
    @kevindelvalle6895 3 года назад

    So quick question. Why is my sound clicking when I play a note? Is there any way to fix this?

    • @notgoon
      @notgoon 3 года назад +1

      try making the attack a tiny bit slower

    • @EddieFreak
      @EddieFreak 3 года назад

      I always just add like a 5ms attack I think. (the measurement on that might be wrong lol) but just a tiny bit and that initial click should go away

  • @aaroncross2211
    @aaroncross2211 4 года назад

    Stellar tip, and very clearly explained! Thanks man!

  • @ThePattosc
    @ThePattosc 3 года назад

    i think i loviu

  • @no_iris9868
    @no_iris9868 4 года назад

    Why would my wavetable editor only allow me to go to 75 %

    • @tommystewart9292
      @tommystewart9292 4 года назад

      same here

    • @paganojo1010
      @paganojo1010 3 года назад

      You guys figure this one out?

    • @BLumDAbuSS
      @BLumDAbuSS 3 года назад

      Just asked same question lol

    • @BLumDAbuSS
      @BLumDAbuSS 3 года назад

      Right click then scale frequency values by bin index right at bottom and it clicked to 100

  • @P4nikStudios
    @P4nikStudios Год назад

    why not just do a square wave then?

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад

      you could use a square and filter it down, though many filters will shift the phase of the harmonics

  • @Ash-gg2ql
    @Ash-gg2ql Год назад

    I wonder who was the first person to find this out, and why haha

  • @scryne5578
    @scryne5578 2 года назад

    everything gives a sense, but u can't use it in a standard edm track

  • @matiasmannelli5722
    @matiasmannelli5722 Год назад

    MORE RMS FOR LESS DB

  • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
    @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 6 месяцев назад

    ngl dude you only need one osc to do that you can just draw it it on the one osc tbh on serum or operator no cap

  • @alanoswald3137
    @alanoswald3137 3 года назад +1

    So i follow every step from the beginning, but your bass is way deeper than the one i have

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  2 года назад

      Hmmm I'm unsure why it would sound different. I would double check you're playing in the same octave

  • @W1TCHMOUNTA1N
    @W1TCHMOUNTA1N 2 года назад

    You asked people to sub and didn’t even make a sub joke

  • @tacostwowheels4934
    @tacostwowheels4934 4 года назад

    Nice upload. You might enjoy my videos

  • @sevchyk
    @sevchyk 3 месяца назад

    Dude, do you actually create music or you just sit all day altering the sinewaves?

  • @astronautprm
    @astronautprm 5 месяцев назад

    Doesn’t work at all

  • @flyoverfredusa
    @flyoverfredusa Год назад

    mind.blown

  • @dewbs96
    @dewbs96 3 года назад

    this was exactly what i wanted when i typed in how to. consice !

  • @louisd100
    @louisd100 Год назад

    I wish serum could be put in mono

    • @KermodeMusic
      @KermodeMusic  10 месяцев назад

      by default there is no difference between the lft and right channels so it is in mono :)