@@karlcooper8460 Fair enough. For every team that looks timeless (KC, Indy, Green Bay, Chicago, etc) you have a team like the Vikes who could pull a move like Cleveland and throwback to something infinitely better (Bud Grant era would be dope). But you're right. Modern times means catering to modern taste unfortunately
@@CaptainTunnel somethings should remain timeless and should never change thats just the world I come from when you ask for change be careful what you ask for.
In 2006, they fixed something that wasn't even broken. And it broke my heart. The improvised throwbacks look pretty good. I'd be happy with those. But... have you seen the new "White Warrior" version? If you haven't... BRACE YOURSELF.
I remember Ted Brown (23) for that game he had at the Met vs the Browns in 1980. Made two of the biggest plays leading up to Ahmad Rashad’s game-winning catch.
You stole my thunder, and I didn't even know it. I posted a day after you with a bit more detail. But you are right. Most of us Viking fans remember that play from Teddy.
Ted Brown’s son J.T., played in the NHL for the Tampa Bay Lightning, Anaheim Ducks and Minnesota Wild before retiring and becoming the TV analyst for the expansion Seattle Kraken.
Lightning fan here. I loved watching J.T. Brown here in Tampa Bay. Seeing a fellow black person playing in the NHL always brings a smile to my face and I'm happy for his announcing gig with the Kraken.
@@marcus813 been a lightning fan since 2012. Been a crunch fan for 20 years. 2013 was the best April of my life watching that team kick ass in the playoffs.Steve Yzerman was up here almost the entire time
I always liked Ted Brown as a player. Though he played during a mediocre era of Vikings football. He’s underrated and probable unknown to most younger Vikings fans. He deserves more respect.
Respect?..lol.. Why? He went AWOL for supposed personal family problems that he did not notify his employer about. I would've cut his arse in a heartbeat!
I just looked up the all-time record of the Vikings because I cannot think of a time they were ever truly terrible. The Vikings rank 7th all-time in regular season winning percentage(495-412-11, .545), but have the 27th best postseason winning percentage(21-30, .412). The team just seems cursed sometimes, especially the team that lost to the Dirty Bird Falcons.
@@matthewdaley746 Not sure what that means. His one year with the Vikings as head coach was abyssal....are you confusing Steckel with Jerry Burns or Dennis Green?
Michael Martin, I do not know when you did your research, and I'm not going to double check it either because I've done my own similar studies multiple times. How many NFL teams had 51 playoff games when you did your study. The Vikings only seemed "cursed" because we have stupid fans. The main reason why the Vikings have not won a title is that the fans do not support the team, they are racist, and many are ignorant about football. Can you imagine how a black player feels looking up into the stands in Minnesota! This year many did not want Dakota Dozier to even have the opportunity to try out for the team because he is black!
There is no mystery here. Bud wanted to win and he knew their chances of winning was better with Brown than without. Jimmy Johnson was the same with Troy, Emmitt and any of the Cowboy superstars.
I read Jimmy Johnson cut a player because he fell asleep during a team meeting. When asked what he would've done if it was Troy Aikman who fell asleep during the team meeting, Jimmy said he would've slapped Troy on the head and said, "Troy, wake up!".
How about a video on John Jefferson, WR on the San Diego Chargers 1978 to 1980. He was a star player. He was the first player ever to start his career with 3 1000 yards seasons. He wore eye goggles which made him stand out among other players. I think in 1981 he held out for new contract. The Charges refused, traded him to the Packers. He was never the same player. No more 1000 yards seasons. I don't know if it was cold weather, injuries or what. The Packers threw the ball a lot . They had James Lofton a Hall of Famer at WR.Linn Dickey was a good QB. Jefferson never had the same success like in San Diego with Dan Fouts known as Air Coryell Chargers
Helluva player. I think any decline in production had to do with Green Bay being a less competent team and franchise back then. Also, was he a bit injury prone? Seems to me that his career ended surprisingly soon.
Down Town Teddy Brown ! I got his autograph his rookie year in Tampa . He looked so small compared to the rest of the guys at the Hotel dinner we attended with the team .
One thing that is completely different about Bud Grant than every coach in the NFL today and probably most of the coaches back in his time. Is that he went home every night and had dinner with his family. And insisted that his assistant coaches do the same. This is a man who had his perspectives in the right order. Football was not number one in his life. Yes he loved it. And he made a good living at it. But his family was more important.
I don't know if any other coach ever did this but Bud never served as an assistant or coordinator and was never fired. He skipped directly from being a player for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to head coach. After six Grey Cup appearances and four titles, he came to the Vikings as HC. BTW there was a lot more parity between the NFL & CFL back then. Players often went to Canada to earn more. That's what Bud did. Super Appearances by Vikings HC: Bud: 4 All other Vikings coaches combined: 0
Love all the videos, but ESPECIALLY the videos pertaining to the Vikings! Appreciate it! Maybe there's a story about Rick Fenney or Terry Allen you could enlighten us all with next time?...
I was a kid. I remember his press conference on his retirement. I was home sick from school when the ticker came across the TV announcing Les Steckle was fired. Then the excitement when Bud came back. Then again when he re-retired.
I'm a Viking fan, and it is not correct to say we think mostly of Teddy Brown as the guy who was suspended. What I think of Teddy Brown was the big play he made in the Cleveland game at the Metropolitan Stadium in 1980 that put the Vikings in position to win the division. With 20 second left, Tommy Kramer threw a pass from the 20 caught by a receiver that lateralled back to Brown who ran the ball out of bounds somewhere around midfield. That was a huge play by Brown. After that T. Kramer hit Ahmad Rashad for the Hail Mary win. It put the Vikings into the playoffs. He was a very skilled running back. The suspension was a side note to most Viking fans.
Les Steckel was autistic toward the Vikings meaning he was the only one on the team thinking it was successful in working the players too hard while not lighting up.
His biggest weakness:one player once said of him is that he didn't know how to make half time adjustments that maybe one reason why he went 0-4 in superbowls.
@@matthewdaley746 but here is something that will get you they would beat those same teams at home in the regular season I recall them beating the raiders and the chiefs at home.
@@karlcooper8460 @Matthew Daley : Agreed. Vikes were shut out in the 1st half of all four games. And iirc scored a total of 14 offensive points in non-garbage time overall. The AFC teams in the 70's were just too dominant in terms of line play on both sides.
How about a Clint Jones piece? Underutilized and unsung as the speed back/KR/PR late 60's Vikings to balance the powerboats Dave Osborne and Bill Brown. Thanks.....
My God they really need to go back to the 70-73 jerseys that were the warm weather option and have that same era purple. Viking fan from '68 I proudly submit.
What a difference social media, ESPN,.and our insatiable need for "news". Could you imagine if a coach suspended a player for the season and then 4 Days later changes his mind? It would be on Sportscenter with clips of the player doing push-ups in his driveway screaming and crying "that's my running back"
To think that Ted Brown, Ricky Young & Darrin Nelson already have videos done about them. Now all I have to do is wait for that Chuck Foreman video to cone up, especially since he played for the Vikings between 1973 to 1979 so there has to be something you can make a video on during that stretch.
Got you covered: ruclips.net/video/EeVIJ5poTbw/видео.html It was over a year ago (back when I had about 2,000 subscribers) and it’s on the shorter side, but I’ve got something on Foreman
Yeah… thanks, of course I didn’t start following you until March this year so that’s why I never knew you kinda covered him already. Since I’m going to skim through some of your past videos to see if you already have done videos of either Claude Humphrey, Jeff Van Note & Rolland Lawrence.
@@okolo22000 Haven't done any on those players specifically, but I do have a ton of Falcons history videos from the 70s in this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLiNoyKuX-mVijQotVAcFiWElwxo1y93Q3
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Thanks again, I knew you immediately recognize those were all other prominent Falcons players during the 70’s. That’s why I brought those 3 up since you probably were going to do some type of story about 1 or all of them by the end of the year (no rush.)
No mention of Brown shooting himself in the foot? It was an accident. Or maybe his friend shot him by accident! That’s one reason why they drafted Nelson in 82.
To be fair, "not having a season with double digit losses" means a whole lot less when most of the seasons you coached (particularly early in one's career) happened during 14 game seasons rather than 16 game seasons, his 3 wins and 8 losses in 1967 was terrible even with the 3 ties, and his 1 win and 14 losses (with 1 tie) in 1964 in the CFL was abysmal, that being said most of the rest of his season long records were pretty good
Grant coached for 6 full 16-game seasons plus the '82 strike-shortened season with no more than 9 losses in any of those seasons, Landry got a 3-13 record in his last seaso, plus a few double-digit loss seasons in the early 60s. Shula and Noll also had double-digit loss seasons in '88 (Noll also did in '86).
@@kyle1910 none of those are as bad as Grant's 1 win and 14 losses in 1964, like I said in my original comment though Grant was a good coach with many great records, I was just pointing out the facts
@@xp8969 The Blue Bombers lost their last 13 games in 1964, but had a lot of injuries. Grant was quoted as saying that he never did as much coaching as he did that year. In 1965 they were 11-5, and he was named the CFL's Coach of the Year.
@@orbyfanthis is my 3rd time saying this now: he was def a good coach who had good records most seasons, my only point was that losing 10 games out of 14 was a lot HARDER than losing 10 games out of 16 or 17 is now here in the modern era
40 years ago, some RB (that only an old Vikings fan might remember, if shown) didn't follow the rules (there's a shock) (of which the circumstances merited no worth in remembering), and was suspended by a coach that previously was never given a reason to suspend a player. Hmmm... YEAH? SO WHAT? 97% of this video was used to describe a slightly better than average RB, and 2% on a legendary HC. The remaining 1%... on a suspension that NO ONE cares about. Had you not exhumed that factoid from it's unmarked grave... NO ONE would have lost a second of sleep? The only person it actually IS important to is the one who's looking for views. Coincidence? I gotta ask... How the hell did you manage to find such an obscure, mundane occurrence, from 4 decades ago, that no one else (except maybe Ted) had thought about since?
Scary thought.... Bud Grant is STILL alive.. (in his 90s).... He could come back and coach again! Wouldn't that be some scary shit? He's the only surviving head coach from the 1970s....
Underrated coach all-time & underrated team team all-time. In my opinion. That 70's Vikings team was a beast that entire decade. Ran into Cowboys & Steelers & couldn't get it done. I've read player's loved Grant cuz he didn't bullshit & he let the veterans of the team handle stuff in-house.
@@charismatic9904 a little love for the Rams but being #3, behind Cowboys & Vikings I can't show too much love.....lol Props to you cuz I did forget those Rams teams. I could be wrong (usually) but I remember a killer defense but usually a struggling offense at QB fora period of time. Poor Lawrence McCutcheon, what a great, underrated RB. Back then, they ran those RB's to death then tried to find another. This year, Rams are getting a lot of love from here in Detroit. Wait till game day, you are gonna love Stafford more every snap......lol
When people still had honor and good character, so when something like this happened it WAS rare. Now if you don’t get suspended for something during your career you aren’t trying.
Rb issues from after Chuck Foreman up to Robert Smith, We missed solving it in 82' by passing on Marcus Allen. Although when Darren Nelson carried over 17 times a game he had 100 yards, possibly under used, had Hope for Herschel but his style wasn't a good fit
For what??? Lifting the suspension right after finding out he couldn't win without Brown? Like a lot of coaches, he turned out to be a complete hypocrite when it came to rules.
@@DolFan316, I agree with you about the lifting, but he was right for initially suspending BROWN.. In fact, I WOULD'VE CUT HIS ARSE. AWOL, NO CONTACT WITH the EMPLOYER OR THE LATTER'S manager/instructor, about undisclosed "personal problems"...no injury rehab showups..and then.. NOT COMPLETELY SUSPENDING HIM=TAIL WAGGING THE DOG..
I would like to suggest a video that is related to the Vikings and Bud Grant. After six games in the 1978 season the Vikings waived future Hall of Famer and former most valuable player Alan Page. There was a major falling out between Page and head coach Bud Grant. It would be interesting to see why that happened. Page was almost immediately picked up by the Chicago Bears With whom he finished his career in 1981.
Because Page was smarter than Grant's stubborn arse. His veteran players knew what it would take to win a bowl or two, but Grant...not so much. I live in MN and Grant, the 4-time loser -- is ensconced in MN history as the greatest MN'sotan since Paul Bunyan.
@@rashard4 you are right about Bud Grant stubbornness. But you are wrong by just calling him a fourth time loser. The two characteristics that Bud, Grant and Alan Page was the fact that they were both very smart and both very stubborn. They just had two very different viewpoints. Bud was very successful, doing things his way. He’s one of the few people in professional sports that never got fired or cut. He changed jobs when he wanted to. You have to win a hell of a lot of football games to get to that point. And he is by far and away the best coach in the history of the Vikings. And only second to Tom Kelly in Minnesota sports history. Tom Kelly won two World Series.
Bud waived Alan Page because he had changed his focus away from football that combined with age affected his play. Page was in law school and was a serious runner. he was focused on life after football in retrospect not a bad plan. But he had dropped weight down to 225 pounds. Pretty tough to play defensive tackle in the NFL at 225. In the end, it worked out well for number 88. He became a lawyer, then a judge. He served as a Minnesota Supreme Court Justice until just recently.
Ricardo pulled a hamstring during camp under Steckel and told the press that the raiders don’t do the BS that Steckel is putting the Vikings through. They just kick ass. All the Vikings hated Steckel.
@@Jefff72, yet your success and skill in the Majors is measured against only THE OTHERS IN THE MAJORS and not amateurs or minor leaguers. I was speaking about his success vis-a-vis his production compared to other NHL'ers. In fact, if there were only about 24 teams, he would have never made the NHL. Skilled compared to the general public yes, but then again, so are journeymen college, or high school players, or average JUNIOR players. Skill and production vs NHLers, for JTB..not so much. Yep..not very productive..
Jt brown may not have been an all-star hockey player but he was a good hockey player. What is your point and why the hate? Even to make the national hockey league at any level is an accomplishment. By the way what professional sport did you play? let me guess none! Jt came a long way to even make the national hockey league trust me it is an accomplishment! I should know he is my nephew!@@robertsprouse9282
I remember Brown and his career well, but I do not recall this incident. His best pro career stretch was probably the first 11 games of the '81 season, when he was on pace to total 2000 yards from scrimmage. The last five games were disaster for the entire team (going 0-5), and Brown's performance fell off, as he barely eclipsed 1000 yard rushing.
You also forgot to mention when Teddy shot himself in the leg while moving a gun in his parents house. Afterwards I always called him Bullet Brown but I did love the man. I was a huge fan.
He sounds like a flake. AWOL without notifying his employer, missing injury treatment rehab, for supposed personal family issues? Yeah? Like what? Lol.. And, then with no notification to his employer he leaves the pressbox after he was granted permission and told that he could be there..to go eat dinner during a game. I WOULD CUT HIS ARSE IN A HEARTBEAT.. Flakier than KELLOGGS CORN in an earthquake..
I was there! I'm his brother. Did not shoot his self on purpose. It was an accident. After his friend handled his gun. His friend did not snap the gun back in the hoister. Ted picked the gun up by the nose of the hoister . The gun fell out of the hoister hit the floor and shot him in the thigh. The bullet lodged in his thigh where it remains today! Very bizarre accident that could have ended a lot worse!
Teddy was fantastic. Your brother could ball for sure. I recall when they weren't sure if they'd sign him and I was all over "Pay the man". @@chrisbrown507
You get a Thumbs Up from me because you did something on the Vikings. We rarely get decent coverage because we are not an East, West, or South metro team.
Man, Bud Grant was one helluva coach. And, IIRC, a national championship professional basketball player, into the bargain. Despite his stony-faced sideline demeanor, Fran Tarkenton relates that Grant was quite the prankster. Tarkenton says he went to Grant's office once to discuss the game plan for Minnesota's upcoming opponent. Grant was seated on a hay bale, in just his boxer shorts, behind an empty peach crate in place of his desk. Grant deadpanned his way through the entire meeting as thought there was nothing abnormal about the whole scenario (as best I remember the story). What an interesting dude.
Bud Grant was a member of the l950 Minneapolis Lakers team that won the NBA championship that season. The head coach, John Kundla, is the only member of a major sports hall of fame who lived to see his 100th birthday. Grant looks like he will join him in the near future.
I can tell you why he lifted the suspension. Winning. In football winning is all that matters, and if Grant thought he would struggle to win without Brown and it wasn't like he punched a team mate or anything then he'll put him back out there. I think he weighed up what is more important, sending a message or keeping his career on track by making the playoffs
The commentator keeps harping this thing called sending a message. Bud Grant wasn't "sending" a message. He was taking his player buy the hand and saying, I'm here for you. That's not something you send that's something you say
The Vikings made a mistake in letting Tony Dungy go after 1995 look what he did in Tampa Bay build that defense into a beast Tampa Bay was Scary after the 1998 season that Cover 2 defense was no joke if the Vikings kept Tony Dungy as Defensive coach that team goes to the superbowl in 1998 and wins it Atlanta don't win the 1998 NFC Title game if Tony Dungy is Defensive coach huge mistake by Minnesota by letting go of Tony Dungy not a Vikings fan just telling the truth
The Vikings did not let Dungy go after 1995, he was their acting defensive coordinator when Tampa offered him their head coaching position. That was a promotion that Dungy was not going to turn down. The only way that the Vikings could have kept Dungy would have been to fire HC Dennis Green, and promote Dungy to HC. But this wasn’t going to happen, as the Vikings had just won the NFC Central division for 3 consecutive years under Green.
I got 2 questions 1 do the players of coaches ever reach out to you after you make one of your videos 2 is it just me or do you make more videos about the New York Jets
I think I see Grant’s purpose. You want to make a impact then tell a guy that he’s going to lose the rest of the season!! As towards ending the suspension, Grant didn’t care about outside responses. He made his point clear.
Your content is good but if I may offer a piece of advice, sometimes you talk so fast that you mumble your words and it's hard to understand what you're saying. Maybe slow it down or try to say your words fully and clearly.
Grant built his record on beating bad Lions teams, bad Packers teams, and bad Bears teams...just like Shula did with bad Patriots, Bills, and Jets teams for a over decade
Let’s face it - while some of that is true ( the Vikings were clearly the superior team in a fairly weak division a lot of years) - the fact is they won 4 NFC championship games - not to mention beating some very good teams on the way to those Championship games. However the fact is - with the exception of SB IV against the Chiefs ( they should have definitely won that game - and DID beat them on the opening day of the very next season) the Vikings played teams that were simply better then them in the following 3 SB’s. With the exception of SB IV you can’t really lay it on Bud Grant. But he did pad his record on a weak division. Just an opinion from a long suffering Vikings fan since 1967. Plus - who else would wear a short sleeve shirt in -8 degree weather?
actually, the Vikes did well against the top teams of that era in the regular season. As an example, although the Dolphins certainly wore out the Vikings in the SB after the 1973 season, note that during the 1972 Miami undefeated season, which was also the only non-winning season for the Vikings during the era, Dolphin players have commented getting past Minnesota 16-14 was their closest call of the year. Moreover, the Vikes led that game 14-6 in the 4Q (if memory serves) and the defense that seemed so helpless to stop Miami at the end of the following season was formidable. Conclusion, I don’t know but I suspect the Vikings were physically smaller and less intimidating than the Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders, Cowboys, and probably Chiefs in 1969 which gave a substantial advantage for a two week preparation period. Thoughts appreciated - it has bugged me for 50yr how such a strong team could have played so poorly in the biggest game (4 times, no less).
@Marvin Lutz I'm from Detroit and unfortunately a Lion fan, but have also been a Dolphins fan for 50 years. You make some good points. One thing many people don't take into account, and you mentioned it, is that the Vikings could have beaten Miami the year Miami went undefeated. That Minnesota team was their worst team in that era. They were also Miami's toughest competition that year. Miami played one team that year that finished with a winning record. That was the only season between 1968 and 1978 that Minnesota didn't make the playoffs. Miami that year played their division and four last place teams in other divisions. The older I get the less impressed I am with the undefeated Dolphins team. Edit....Minnesota was 20-0 against the Lions in the 70s
Grant was and still is highly over rated. Just a figurehead more than anything else. There were MANY others around him as supporting cast that actually did the hard work!!! (The lesser coaches, trainers etc.). AND the absolute fkn talent and skills of some of the most awesome players ever! Superbowl losses due exclusively to the corruption of the NFL. Politics and team owners BUYING fkn Superbowls. Much the same happened later with the Bills.... Another current example of NFL corruption: *LAST YEAR*, at the annual owners meeting, they decided at that time that the Lions will win THIS YEARS Superbowl!!!
That dark purple was sweet.
I can't understand how they think the jersey and color is better now.
@@TheMrzero35 It's just the times we live in now just a different generation that's being marketed to.
@@karlcooper8460 Fair enough.
For every team that looks timeless (KC, Indy, Green Bay, Chicago, etc) you have a team like the Vikes who could pull a move like Cleveland and throwback to something infinitely better (Bud Grant era would be dope).
But you're right. Modern times means catering to modern taste unfortunately
@@CaptainTunnel somethings should remain timeless and should never change thats just the world I come from when you ask for change be careful what you ask for.
@@CaptainTunnel modern taste AKA , no taste.
Miss the old Vikings uniform 🥋
That's about a lot of teams and their 70s unis. Dolphins immediately come to mind.
My god especially the fins
It's Jekyll and Hyde with their regular set and throwbacks these days
In 2006, they fixed something that wasn't even broken. And it broke my heart.
The improvised throwbacks look pretty good. I'd be happy with those.
But... have you seen the new "White Warrior" version? If you haven't... BRACE YOURSELF.
I remember Ted Brown (23) for that game he had at the Met vs the Browns in 1980. Made two of the biggest plays leading up to Ahmad Rashad’s game-winning catch.
You stole my thunder, and I didn't even know it. I posted a day after you with a bit more detail. But you are right. Most of us Viking fans remember that play from Teddy.
What was the "personal reason" he failed to notify his employer about before going AWOL?
Just met Ted at an autograph show last week. He signed my Sears #23 Vikings helmet from 1981😊
How do you know it's cold outside? When Bud Grant is wearing long sleeves.
So then it’s never cold? Da Bears!!!!!
How do you know it's cold outside?? When Bud Grant refuses to go hunting/fishing due to the weather.
Ted Brown’s son J.T., played in the NHL for the Tampa Bay Lightning, Anaheim Ducks and Minnesota Wild before retiring and becoming the TV analyst for the expansion Seattle Kraken.
I watched JT Brown when he played for Syracuse Crunch!! A lot in 2013
Lightning fan here. I loved watching J.T. Brown here in Tampa Bay. Seeing a fellow black person playing in the NHL always brings a smile to my face and I'm happy for his announcing gig with the Kraken.
@@marcus813 been a lightning fan since 2012. Been a crunch fan for 20 years. 2013 was the best April of my life watching that team kick ass in the playoffs.Steve Yzerman was up here almost the entire time
Really? JT will do TV for the Kraken!! That's cool! I wondered what he was doing after his career was over.
@@marcus813 IMO it's cool that he's an American black guy playing in the NHL. Most NHL players of African descent are Canadians. I'm a white guy.
oh if we could get that footage restored to HD .... great nostalgia!
I always liked Ted Brown as a player. Though he played during a mediocre era of Vikings football. He’s underrated and probable unknown to most younger Vikings fans. He deserves more respect.
Respect?..lol..
Why?
He went AWOL for supposed personal family problems that he did not notify his employer about.
I would've cut his arse in a heartbeat!
Bud said upon his retirement in 1983, "Well, the players today are different from a few years ago."
I just looked up the all-time record of the Vikings because I cannot think of a time they were ever truly terrible. The Vikings rank 7th all-time in regular season winning percentage(495-412-11, .545), but have the 27th best postseason winning percentage(21-30, .412). The team just seems cursed sometimes, especially the team that lost to the Dirty Bird Falcons.
1984 under Les Steckel. 3-13. It showed how good a coach Grant really was.
@@matthewdaley746 Not sure what that means. His one year with the Vikings as head coach was abyssal....are you confusing Steckel with Jerry Burns or Dennis Green?
@@matthewdaley746 Jerry Burns. Loved him!
@@ac9559 Les Steckel was a great coach! Please do you homework before you say what you did.
Michael Martin, I do not know when you did your research, and I'm not going to double check it either because I've done my own similar studies multiple times. How many NFL teams had 51 playoff games when you did your study. The Vikings only seemed "cursed" because we have stupid fans. The main reason why the Vikings have not won a title is that the fans do not support the team, they are racist, and many are ignorant about football. Can you imagine how a black player feels looking up into the stands in Minnesota! This year many did not want Dakota Dozier to even have the opportunity to try out for the team because he is black!
There is no mystery here. Bud wanted to win and he knew their chances of winning was better with Brown than without. Jimmy Johnson was the same with Troy, Emmitt and any of the Cowboy superstars.
I read Jimmy Johnson cut a player because he fell asleep during a team meeting. When asked what he would've done if it was Troy Aikman who fell asleep during the team meeting, Jimmy said he would've slapped Troy on the head and said, "Troy, wake up!".
😄 Ted Brown was no star rb but,he was solid briefly.Coach Grant wasn't given to tolerate alot of nonesense and rightly so!
I'm a Raiders fan but I have respect for bud Grant. Short sleeves in any weather at any age, pretty bad ass
Never figured TB for a problem player this surprised me because he was a great back for the Vikings back in the day .
I loved it when players did not control the game.
How about a video on John Jefferson, WR on the San Diego Chargers 1978 to 1980. He was a star player. He was the first player ever to start his career with 3 1000 yards seasons. He wore eye goggles which made him stand out among other players. I think in 1981 he held out for new contract. The Charges refused, traded him to the Packers. He was never the same player. No more 1000 yards seasons. I don't know if it was cold weather, injuries or what. The Packers threw the ball a lot . They had James Lofton a Hall of Famer at WR.Linn Dickey was a good QB. Jefferson never had the same success like in San Diego with Dan Fouts known as Air Coryell Chargers
Helluva player. I think any decline in production had to do with Green Bay being a less competent team and franchise back then. Also, was he a bit injury prone? Seems to me that his career ended surprisingly soon.
Get to the FREAKIN POINT. ...........
Down Town Teddy Brown ! I got his autograph his rookie year in Tampa . He looked so small compared to the rest of the guys at the Hotel dinner we attended with the team .
On the play before the “Miracle at the Met” Brown took a lateral from Joe Senser to the Browns 46-yard line, setting up the game winning touchdown.
Yes, smart play by the Vikes, and Ted Brown wisely went out of bounds with a couple of ticks left on the clock.
One thing that is completely different about Bud Grant than every coach in the NFL today and probably most of the coaches back in his time. Is that he went home every night and had dinner with his family. And insisted that his assistant coaches do the same.
This is a man who had his perspectives in the right order. Football was not number one in his life. Yes he loved it. And he made a good living at it. But his family was more important.
38 Years Ago
I don't know if any other coach ever did this but Bud never served as an assistant or coordinator and was never fired. He skipped directly from being a player for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to head coach. After six Grey Cup appearances and four titles, he came to the Vikings as HC. BTW there was a lot more parity between the NFL & CFL back then. Players often went to Canada to earn more. That's what Bud did.
Super Appearances by Vikings HC:
Bud: 4
All other Vikings coaches combined: 0
Excellent job with this story--You always do a fantastic analysis of these types of real-life scenarios
Teddy was a awesome player.
Didn't like to practice
Love all the videos, but ESPECIALLY the videos pertaining to the Vikings! Appreciate it! Maybe there's a story about Rick Fenney or Terry Allen you could enlighten us all with next time?...
I forgot Bud Grant still coached in the 80s
I was a kid. I remember his press conference on his retirement. I was home sick from school when the ticker came across the TV announcing Les Steckle was fired. Then the excitement when Bud came back. Then again when he re-retired.
I'm a Viking fan, and it is not correct to say we think mostly of Teddy Brown as the guy who was suspended. What I think of Teddy Brown was the big play he made in the Cleveland game at the Metropolitan Stadium in 1980 that put the Vikings in position to win the division. With 20 second left, Tommy Kramer threw a pass from the 20 caught by a receiver that lateralled back to Brown who ran the ball out of bounds somewhere around midfield. That was a huge play by Brown. After that T. Kramer hit Ahmad Rashad for the Hail Mary win. It put the Vikings into the playoffs. He was a very skilled running back. The suspension was a side note to most Viking fans.
Didn't he get shot in the leg?
Just the mention of Les Steckel gives me fits. Worst Vikings coach (ever)!
Bob S. would be right behind.
Les Steckel was autistic toward the Vikings meaning he was the only one on the team thinking it was successful in working the players too hard while not lighting up.
His biggest weakness:one player once said of him is that he didn't know how to make half time adjustments that maybe one reason why he went 0-4 in superbowls.
@@matthewdaley746 they were also out physicalled I just couldn't fit that all in my comment section.
@@matthewdaley746 they were also out pysicalled I just mentioned this 5 minutes ago.
@@matthewdaley746 And out muscled.
@@matthewdaley746 but here is something that will get you they would beat those same teams at home in the regular season I recall them beating the raiders and the chiefs at home.
@@karlcooper8460 @Matthew Daley : Agreed. Vikes were shut out in the 1st half of all four games. And iirc scored a total of 14 offensive points in non-garbage time overall. The AFC teams in the 70's were just too dominant in terms of line play on both sides.
No need to tell me about Teddy Brown at the start. I'm sure they may not know but I saw every game he played.
How about a Clint Jones piece? Underutilized and unsung as the speed back/KR/PR late 60's Vikings to balance the powerboats Dave Osborne and Bill Brown. Thanks.....
My God they really need to go back to the 70-73 jerseys that were the warm weather option and have that same era purple. Viking fan from '68 I proudly submit.
What a difference social media, ESPN,.and our insatiable need for "news". Could you imagine if a coach suspended a player for the season and then 4 Days later changes his mind? It would be on Sportscenter with clips of the player doing push-ups in his driveway screaming and crying "that's my running back"
To think that Ted Brown, Ricky Young & Darrin Nelson already have videos done about them. Now all I have to do is wait for that Chuck Foreman video to cone up, especially since he played for the Vikings between 1973 to 1979 so there has to be something you can make a video on during that stretch.
Got you covered: ruclips.net/video/EeVIJ5poTbw/видео.html
It was over a year ago (back when I had about 2,000 subscribers) and it’s on the shorter side, but I’ve got something on Foreman
Yeah… thanks, of course I didn’t start following you until March this year so that’s why I never knew you kinda covered him already.
Since I’m going to skim through some of your past videos to see if you already have done videos of either Claude Humphrey, Jeff Van Note & Rolland Lawrence.
@@okolo22000 Haven't done any on those players specifically, but I do have a ton of Falcons history videos from the 70s in this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLiNoyKuX-mVijQotVAcFiWElwxo1y93Q3
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Thanks again, I knew you immediately recognize those were all other prominent Falcons players during the 70’s. That’s why I brought those 3 up since you probably were going to do some type of story about 1 or all of them by the end of the year (no rush.)
@@okolo22000 Great Falcons, there. Rolland Lawrence is an underrated CB and was one of the best in the league in the mid/late 70's.
No mention of Brown shooting himself in the foot? It was an accident. Or maybe his friend shot him by accident! That’s one reason why they drafted Nelson in 82.
Or how about him being arrested for sexual assault following a Vikings sponsored snowmobile trip?
To be fair, "not having a season with double digit losses" means a whole lot less when most of the seasons you coached (particularly early in one's career) happened during 14 game seasons rather than 16 game seasons, his 3 wins and 8 losses in 1967 was terrible even with the 3 ties, and his 1 win and 14 losses (with 1 tie) in 1964 in the CFL was abysmal, that being said most of the rest of his season long records were pretty good
Grant coached for 6 full 16-game seasons plus the '82 strike-shortened season with no more than 9 losses in any of those seasons, Landry got a 3-13 record in his last seaso, plus a few double-digit loss seasons in the early 60s. Shula and Noll also had double-digit loss seasons in '88 (Noll also did in '86).
@@kyle1910 none of those are as bad as Grant's 1 win and 14 losses in 1964, like I said in my original comment though Grant was a good coach with many great records, I was just pointing out the facts
@@xp8969 The Blue Bombers lost their last 13 games in 1964, but had a lot of injuries. Grant was quoted as saying that he never did as much coaching as he did that year. In 1965 they were 11-5, and he was named the CFL's Coach of the Year.
@@orbyfanthis is my 3rd time saying this now: he was def a good coach who had good records most seasons, my only point was that losing 10 games out of 14 was a lot HARDER than losing 10 games out of 16 or 17 is now here in the modern era
40 years ago, some RB (that only an old Vikings fan might remember, if shown) didn't follow the rules (there's a shock) (of which the circumstances merited no worth in remembering), and was suspended by a coach that previously was never given a reason to suspend a player. Hmmm... YEAH? SO WHAT?
97% of this video was used to describe a slightly better than average RB, and 2% on a legendary HC. The remaining 1%... on a suspension that NO ONE cares about. Had you not exhumed that factoid from it's unmarked grave... NO ONE would have lost a second of sleep? The only person it actually IS important to is the one who's looking for views. Coincidence?
I gotta ask... How the hell did you manage to find such an obscure, mundane occurrence, from 4 decades ago, that no one else (except maybe Ted) had thought about since?
Joey Browner and Jack Del Rio were both rookies with the Vikings that year!
I’m not sure Del Rio came until the early 90s
Del Rio was not. He came to the Vikings in the early 90s
Del Rio was drafted by the Saints in 1985.
He and the Buffalo coach both lost 4 superbowls but they lost to great teams and both should be remembered for going to 4 superbowls
Scary thought....
Bud Grant is STILL alive.. (in his 90s)....
He could come back and coach again!
Wouldn't that be some scary shit?
He's the only surviving head coach from the 1970s....
Sadly not anymore
@@coreylevine8095 HOLY CRAP!
Today??
OMG
Yes he was 95
Underrated coach all-time & underrated team team all-time. In my opinion. That 70's Vikings team was a beast that entire decade. Ran into Cowboys & Steelers & couldn't get it done. I've read player's loved Grant cuz he didn't bullshit & he let the veterans of the team handle stuff in-house.
No love for the Rams?
That 70s NFC always ran through Minnesota, L.A. or Dallas
@@charismatic9904 a little love for the Rams but being #3, behind Cowboys & Vikings I can't show too much love.....lol
Props to you cuz I did forget those Rams teams. I could be wrong (usually) but I remember a killer defense but usually a struggling offense at QB fora period of time. Poor Lawrence McCutcheon, what a great, underrated RB. Back then, they ran those RB's to death then tried to find another. This year, Rams are getting a lot of love from here in Detroit. Wait till game day, you are gonna love Stafford more every snap......lol
When people still had honor and good character, so when something like this happened it WAS rare. Now if you don’t get suspended for something during your career you aren’t trying.
Rb issues from after Chuck Foreman up to Robert Smith, We missed solving it in 82' by passing on Marcus Allen. Although when Darren Nelson carried over 17 times a game he had 100 yards, possibly under used, had Hope for Herschel but his style wasn't a good fit
As a Raiders fan glad u missed on Marcus but he was a much better fit than walker
Grant was 100% in the right here.
For what??? Lifting the suspension right after finding out he couldn't win without Brown? Like a lot of coaches, he turned out to be a complete hypocrite when it came to rules.
@@DolFan316, I agree with you about the lifting, but he was right for initially suspending BROWN..
In fact, I WOULD'VE CUT HIS ARSE.
AWOL, NO CONTACT WITH the EMPLOYER OR THE LATTER'S manager/instructor, about undisclosed "personal problems"...no injury rehab showups..and then..
NOT COMPLETELY SUSPENDING HIM=TAIL WAGGING THE DOG..
I would like to suggest a video that is related to the Vikings and Bud Grant. After six games in the 1978 season the Vikings waived future Hall of Famer and former most valuable player Alan Page. There was a major falling out between Page and head coach Bud Grant. It would be interesting to see why that happened. Page was almost immediately picked up by the Chicago Bears With whom he finished his career in 1981.
Because Page was smarter than Grant's stubborn arse. His veteran players knew what it would take to win a bowl or two, but Grant...not so much. I live in MN and Grant, the 4-time loser -- is ensconced in MN history as the greatest MN'sotan since Paul Bunyan.
@@rashard4 you are right about Bud Grant stubbornness. But you are wrong by just calling him a fourth time loser.
The two characteristics that Bud, Grant and Alan Page was the fact that they were both very smart and both very stubborn. They just had two very different viewpoints.
Bud was very successful, doing things his way. He’s one of the few people in professional sports that never got fired or cut. He changed jobs when he wanted to.
You have to win a hell of a lot of football games to get to that point. And he is by far and away the best coach in the history of the Vikings. And only second to Tom Kelly in Minnesota sports history. Tom Kelly won two World Series.
Bud waived Alan Page because he had changed his focus away from football that combined with age affected his play. Page was in law school and was a serious runner. he was focused on life after football in retrospect not a bad plan. But he had dropped weight down to 225 pounds. Pretty tough to play defensive tackle in the NFL at 225.
In the end, it worked out well for number 88. He became a lawyer, then a judge. He served as a Minnesota Supreme Court Justice until just recently.
Ricardo pulled a hamstring during camp under Steckel and told the press that the raiders don’t do the BS that Steckel is putting the Vikings through. They just kick ass. All the Vikings hated Steckel.
There was banner in stands in 1984 that said: Less Steckle More Bud.
$10k a game for a starting RB? Benchwarmers make 10x that now.
Did you know that Ted's son had an NHL career and even played for the Wild?
Yep, didn't produce much..if I recall correctly.
@@robertsprouse9282 either way, you still have to have a significant amount of talent to play at that level.
@@Jefff72, yet your success and skill in the Majors is measured against only THE OTHERS IN THE MAJORS and not amateurs or minor leaguers.
I was speaking about his success vis-a-vis his production compared to other NHL'ers.
In fact, if there were only about 24 teams, he would have never made the NHL.
Skilled compared to the general public yes, but then again, so are journeymen college, or high school players, or average JUNIOR players.
Skill and production vs NHLers, for JTB..not so much.
Yep..not very productive..
Jt brown may not have been an all-star hockey player but he was a good hockey player. What is your point and why the hate? Even to make the national hockey league at any level is an accomplishment. By the way what professional sport did you play? let me guess none! Jt came a long way to even make the national hockey league trust me it is an accomplishment! I should know he is my nephew!@@robertsprouse9282
I remember Brown and his career well, but I do not recall this incident. His best pro career stretch was probably the first 11 games of the '81 season, when he was on pace to total 2000 yards from scrimmage. The last five games were disaster for the entire team (going 0-5), and Brown's performance fell off, as he barely eclipsed 1000 yard rushing.
You also forgot to mention when Teddy shot himself in the leg while moving a gun in his parents house. Afterwards I always called him Bullet Brown but I did love the man. I was a huge fan.
He sounds like a flake.
AWOL without notifying his employer, missing injury treatment rehab, for supposed personal family issues?
Yeah?
Like what?
Lol..
And, then with no notification to his employer he leaves the pressbox after he was granted permission and told that he could be there..to go eat dinner during a game.
I WOULD CUT HIS ARSE IN A HEARTBEAT..
Flakier than KELLOGGS CORN in an earthquake..
I was there! I'm his brother. Did not shoot his self on purpose. It was an accident. After his friend handled his gun. His friend did not snap the gun back in the hoister. Ted picked the gun up by the nose of the hoister . The gun fell out of the hoister hit the floor and shot him in the thigh. The bullet lodged in his thigh where it remains today! Very bizarre accident that could have ended a lot worse!
Teddy was fantastic. Your brother could ball for sure. I recall when they weren't sure if they'd sign him and I was all over "Pay the man".
@@chrisbrown507
You get a Thumbs Up from me because you did something on the Vikings. We rarely get decent coverage because we are not an East, West, or South metro team.
Man, Bud Grant was one helluva coach. And, IIRC, a national championship professional basketball player, into the bargain. Despite his stony-faced sideline demeanor, Fran Tarkenton relates that Grant was quite the prankster. Tarkenton says he went to Grant's office once to discuss the game plan for Minnesota's upcoming opponent. Grant was seated on a hay bale, in just his boxer shorts, behind an empty peach crate in place of his desk. Grant deadpanned his way through the entire meeting as thought there was nothing abnormal about the whole scenario (as best I remember the story). What an interesting dude.
Bud Grant was a member of the l950 Minneapolis Lakers team that won the NBA championship that season. The head coach, John Kundla, is the only member of a major sports hall of fame who lived to see his 100th birthday. Grant looks like he will join him in the near future.
Ted was definitely not a "first on the field, last off the field" guy when it came to practice. Usually the opposite.
Snip..
I can tell you why he lifted the suspension. Winning.
In football winning is all that matters, and if Grant thought he would struggle to win without Brown and it wasn't like he punched a team mate or anything then he'll put him back out there.
I think he weighed up what is more important, sending a message or keeping his career on track by making the playoffs
What research led you to the assertion that most Minnesota fans remember Ted Brown for pushing Coach Grant to the breaking point?
The commentator keeps harping this thing called sending a message. Bud Grant wasn't "sending" a message. He was taking his player buy the hand and saying, I'm here for you. That's not something you send that's something you say
RIP Bud Grant
The Vikings uniforms from 1980-1984 with the white facemasks were nice. Should have left it alone.
BIZARRE!
Ted Brown and His Band of Renown LOL
The Vikings made a mistake in letting Tony Dungy go after 1995 look what he did in Tampa Bay build that defense into a beast Tampa Bay was Scary after the 1998 season that Cover 2 defense was no joke if the Vikings kept Tony Dungy as Defensive coach that team goes to the superbowl in 1998 and wins it Atlanta don't win the 1998 NFC Title game if Tony Dungy is Defensive coach huge mistake by Minnesota by letting go of Tony Dungy not a Vikings fan just telling the truth
Irrelevant.
The Vikings did not let Dungy go after 1995, he was their acting defensive coordinator when Tampa offered him their head coaching position. That was a promotion that Dungy was not going to turn down. The only way that the Vikings could have kept Dungy would have been to fire HC Dennis Green, and promote Dungy to HC. But this wasn’t going to happen, as the Vikings had just won the NFC Central division for 3 consecutive years under Green.
@@matthewdaley746 I know but he was a Defensive guru
@@sampiHBK00 that was a mistake by Minnesota they should had told Dungy not to take a deal from a rival team
@@sampiHBK00 IF Tony Dungy stay you can't tell me The Vikings would have a pair of Super bowl titles
The 1st belicheck
Too much bullshitting..... Get to the point.
Bud Grant is a great coach, but he is one of the few coaches to be featured on Dumb Decisions.
I got 2 questions 1 do the players of coaches ever reach out to you after you make one of your videos 2 is it just me or do you make more videos about the New York Jets
Bud Grant is the meanest looking nice guy the world has ever seen! Hahaha
That was an hour's worth of boring in a 10 minute video, just like the Vikings LOL
I almost fell asleep listening to this ....
I think I see Grant’s purpose. You want to make a impact then tell a guy that he’s going to lose the rest of the season!! As towards ending the suspension, Grant didn’t care about outside responses. He made his point clear.
The Minnesota Vikings should SPIKE the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play. They would be a LOT BETTER OFF.
what the fuck are you talking about? edit: if you're mocking him saying that all the time then lol, I agree
The commentator in this story is worse than a woman....shut up already dude.
Your content is good but if I may offer a piece of advice, sometimes you talk so fast that you mumble your words and it's hard to understand what you're saying. Maybe slow it down or try to say your words fully and clearly.
JG9…Can-Ton. 😂😩
Grant built his record on beating bad Lions teams, bad Packers teams, and bad Bears teams...just like Shula did with bad Patriots, Bills, and Jets teams for a over decade
Let’s face it - while some of that is true ( the Vikings were clearly the superior team in a fairly weak division a lot of years) - the fact is they won 4 NFC championship games - not to mention beating some very good teams on the way to those Championship games. However the fact is - with the exception of SB IV against the Chiefs ( they should have definitely won that game - and DID beat them on the opening day of the very next season) the Vikings played teams that were simply better then them in the following 3 SB’s. With the exception of SB IV you can’t really lay it on Bud Grant. But he did pad his record on a weak division. Just an opinion from a long suffering Vikings fan since 1967. Plus - who else would wear a short sleeve shirt in -8 degree weather?
actually, the Vikes did well against the top teams of that era in the regular season. As an example, although the Dolphins certainly wore out the Vikings in the SB after the 1973 season, note that during the 1972 Miami undefeated season, which was also the only non-winning season for the Vikings during the era, Dolphin players have commented getting past Minnesota 16-14 was their closest call of the year. Moreover, the Vikes led that game 14-6 in the 4Q (if memory serves) and the defense that seemed so helpless to stop Miami at the end of the following season was formidable. Conclusion, I don’t know but I suspect the Vikings were physically smaller and less intimidating than the Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders, Cowboys, and probably Chiefs in 1969 which gave a substantial advantage for a two week preparation period. Thoughts appreciated - it has bugged me for 50yr how such a strong team could have played so poorly in the biggest game (4 times, no less).
@Marvin Lutz I'm from Detroit and unfortunately a Lion fan, but have also been a Dolphins fan for 50 years.
You make some good points.
One thing many people don't take into account, and you mentioned it, is that the Vikings could have beaten Miami the year Miami went undefeated. That Minnesota team was their worst team in that era. They were also Miami's toughest competition that year. Miami played one team that year that finished with a winning record. That was the only season between 1968 and 1978 that Minnesota didn't make the playoffs. Miami that year played their division and four last place teams in other divisions. The older I get the less impressed I am with the undefeated Dolphins team.
Edit....Minnesota was 20-0 against the Lions in the 70s
Bud Grant was a Hypocrite
How so?
@@clarkhull7546 The video explains how so.
Grant was and still is highly over rated. Just a figurehead more than anything else. There were MANY others around him as supporting cast that actually did the hard work!!! (The lesser coaches, trainers etc.). AND the absolute fkn talent and skills of some of the most awesome players ever! Superbowl losses due exclusively to the corruption of the NFL. Politics and team owners BUYING fkn Superbowls. Much the same happened later with the Bills.... Another current example of NFL corruption: *LAST YEAR*, at the annual owners meeting, they decided at that time that the Lions will win THIS YEARS Superbowl!!!