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Here's something I accidentally learned about Beak Blast by playing Random Battles on showdown, that nobody seems to know: if Toucannon is asleep, it can still heat up its beak, even if it doesn't wake up for the attack itself. So if the opponent is a physical attacker, Toucannon can burn it even if it's asleep. This niche interaction won me the game
10:38 That NPC definitely experienced a rollercoaster of emotions. His Kingler landed a Guillotine, but Wobbuffet destroyed it with Focus Sash+Counter. RIP npc!
Editing in the "I can't hear youuu!" from the Spongebob theme song to represent the soundproof ability at 13:55 made my day during a time where my days haven't been the best. Thanks for making me laugh with this and Yugia.
for reference, whirlwind is blocked by wind rider[and both it and roar are blocked by good as ghold], and roar can't be used if the user has been affected by throat chop whirlwind is still better
Damn people really out here hating on the raid ads. I got absolutely no issue with them as long as you’re getting paid so you can keep making videos. Keep up the good work
You have no issue with a Poketuber [Pokemon is primarily aimed at kids] taking a sponsorship from an exploitative; predatory; gambling game? Not to mention the history of outright false and degradeing advertisement it has [like focusing on a female characters butt with the caption YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN THIS GAME] You have absolutely no standards; Raid is literal cancer on the industry.
@@raikaria3090😂 I’m seriously wondering who hurt you. Congratulations I guess? You make a simple game sound like a horror movie. I agree with the other comment talking about this as of now, plus, if you’re here commenting, you watch his videos. Are you not happy he makes money. Also, little kids won’t understand these types of things that are plastered about “ you can do whatever you want “ on the game. Luckily for us, you posting hate won’t change the fact that he can do this, regardless of what you say.
@@cbp_trash1064fair enough, it’s not like it’s even a common move on the only mon with access. If you’re using Turt you probably want to try a shell smash +3 attacks set
something funny about trick room is that, instead of reversing speed or something like that, it makes speed 9999, then substracts the speed value. since no stat can go beyond 8000 (or something like that), it substract the result by 8000, which leads to normal numbers saying the slower pokemon is actually faster. with enough buffs, Regieleki can make the first reduction (9999 - Speed) be a legal number (under 8000), so trick room actually makes Regieleki even faster
At first I was going to comment that you forgot Metal Burst, but then I looked it up and I was stunned to learn that it's not a negative priority move. I always thought it was.
Same. I could've sworn that Chilly Reception was negative priority. I thought it was just Snow + Teleport, but no. It has no priority, just like Metal Burst.
+6 as that is the maximum (direct) increase in a stat which correlates to ×4. Though for speed specifically you could still use some external modifier like Sand Rush (and similar) and Tailwind
I will say this about vital throw: it made it so easy to beat that one trainer with a Chansey in the Sevii Islands in FireRed/LeafGreen, and it was particularly useful because that Chansey loved to use Minimize.
Trick Room is one of my favorite moves in the game. I just love setting up Trick Room with my Farigiraf and just unshackling the chains on the Ursaluna-Bloodmoon next to them.
there is one nich for use roar and not whirlwind: wind-rider users are immune to whirwind, but not to roar. and also, roar can activate throat spray... 😅
9:13 Actually, it is used by a ton of other mons, it is a pretty strong move in gen 3.Risky? Yeah, but can be extremely useful for punish switchs/skarm dont attacking (the main reason why skarm even uses sometimes drill peak is for avoid being hit by a focus punch from a fighting type). I think that the only OU mon that can learn it and dont use it at least on one set its blissey (for obvious reason). It is even one of the main reasons for charizard being OU. 150 power sounds a lot scarier on a metagame were you are already so terrified by a 75 power move (rock slide), at the point that if you dont have a resist vs it, it is a bad team (in most cases)
Why're people getting so upset about an ad like they can't just skip it? You know sponsors dictate how long their ad reads have to be in their contracts, right? If the sponsors bother you that much, then get Matt to open a Patreon or channel membership so y'all can pay him directly. If you're watching his content with no intent of supporting him financially, then keep your mouth shut
1:08 I have seen someone use Magic Room combined with Choice Scarf Gyarados, along with DD, it could outspeed Swift Swim Barraskewda in Rain when the room ended
Also! I don't play competitively, but I've been getting into videos like this, because it's genuinely fun to use videos like this to consider my team, even if I only play casual
I don't even play competitive much at all, not nearly enough to utilize trick room strats, and even I know about just how crazy this move is. All in all, I think this is a good video. Even people like me should have no problem digesting it.
Honestly, Wonder Room would be genuinely super interesting if instead of swapping Def and SpD it swapped Atk and SpA, that would make it a heavily disrupting move for the opponent and would also allow gimmicky strats where some Pokemon that have say a great Atk and low SpA but a great special movepool could momentarily use that great movepool as a surprise. I could definitely see it being good in Doubles with that simple change
I like audio as a trick room cause it can pass wish encore set up mons .. use knock off. + it doesn't get pursuit trapped. Unironically a truck room setter with inner focus would be good in singles cause togekiss hard counters trick room
There was a time when Scarf Magic Room Tapu Lele was kind of the meta-call in VGC19, since it helped hinder Xerneas teams. But this strat didn't last for too long...
I love gen 8 ou partially because of teleport. It gives room for frail Pokémon to have chances they wouldn’t otherwise, the best example of this being Weavile.
I am so confused by raid ngl I see so many RUclipsrs get it (good for you get the bag king), but everyone in the comments seems to hate it But obviously raid must be making a profit when they sponsor videos right??
A lot of people dislike it for a handful of reasons. The largest three are thus: Raid insists that their sponsored ad be early in the video's runtime and take up at least a full minute; the game is a gacha game, which irritates a number of individuals (and can be illegal in certain countries due to gambling legislation); and the company goes incredibly hard when it comes to pushing their advertising, thus leading to some places/channels where an ad for their game makes less sense still having them. A side reason for me is that their more traditional ads also tend to be annoying when they come on, and others may not like that the company behind Raid has designated a character in their roster as a punching bag/scapegoat. The company can also be rather predatory on their monetization, but that's partially the gacha model in general. Regardless, most people don't mind the sponsored ad reads nearly as much when they're for products or games that are actively enjoyed or have practical use, like Opera (GX and regular), VPNs, Gamer Supps, etc. Raid tends to not fit the enjoyed or useful category, so that also tends to irk people.
I actually put together a Magic Room team that was terrifying if set up properly. It utilized Prankster Klefki, Rillaboom, and Choice Band Belly Drum Azumarill. Unfortunately, by the time i cooked it up Reg G was in session.
I would love to go back in time 20 years ago and show my old self a modern Slowking moveset with Teleport and Future Sight lol. I'd be like "What the hell happened?" lol
imo mirror coat should be better than counter since it goes well with assault vest sets. AV is an easy way to patch up your spdef, something with no physdef counterpart, and also it counts as an attack so mons with limited coverage like araquanid and magnezone can slap it on happily
I'm honestly not the biggest trick room fan, it only lasts a short amount of turns so it's sometimes able to be played around with moves like fake out and protect. Like I get the appeal of the move, but I feel it's usually best used spur of the moment or when your opponent doesn't expect it. There's nothing worse than using tailwind at the same time your enemy uses trick room. I am more of dragon tail enjoyer myself. Like on a Goodra or a Dipplin. Deals decent damage. Is able to break subs, incur Sealth rock or spikes damage. And it prevents them from setting up. People don't always expect Goodra to run dragon tail.
I think Avalanche and Revenge should get the boost when hit by any Pokémon, not just the Pokémon at which it's directed to. Just for doubles of course, but I hate when I use Avalanche and my mon was hit that turn, but by a different opponent (even worse if it was redirected by follow me) It could even bring some funny combos such as using a spread move with a faster target (Surf, Earthquake, etc.) to purposely hit your partner. Although Thermal Exchange Baxcalibur + a faster Lava plume user sounds OP
what do you guys think about wonder room to mess with iron defense zamazenta in the current vgc format? Like in a team weak to zamazenta idk I haven't played vgc in a year but maybe in a calyrex-ice trick room team or a terapagos team idk
It's way too niche to ever really see any use, plus there's better options to counter Zamazenta teams. Simply swapping their defense stats barely does anything, especially compared to the better options that are out there.
I figured. Well at least I can hope for a bossfight in a fangame where magic room is useful (I know at least 1 example where wonder room is useful in a fangame)
The best Trick Room user to me is either Caly-Ice for power or Hatterene for utility since status moves don't exist to her, except via Mold Breaker, though she may want to hold a Clear Amulet is some bozo attempting to use Parting Shot against her so your Expanding Force onslaught doesn't stop.
WHY CANT THERE BE A WONDER ROOM FOR Atk & S. Atk????? Imagine the possibilities of like physical attackers being able to use special moves to a full effect! It could be so cool! Or like, a special wall like blissey being annihilated by something it would normally wall bc the effects are up!. TINKATON COULD ACTUALLY USE GIGATON HAMMER TO GOOD EFFECT! in short, wonder room, but attacking stats, plesae consider it Gamefreak.
The move might be broken on defensive Pokémon by forcing the attacker to use their weaker attacking stat. Take alakazam for example. Being forced to use the weaker stat nullifies it almost completely. Scizor, the lati twins, weavile, and many others become easily countered.
you know i really wish close combat didnt exist cause in gen 3 so many pokemon run focus punch its so skillful to use too you'd even see it with pokemon with no attack like gengar to beat an incoming pursuit tyranitar
i will not take this Let's Go slander. there's a bunch of quality of life stuff from those games that makes the whole series better (namely: overworld wild pokemon)
I'd argue that Teleport is way more important than Trick Room. Trick Room needs the whole team to make it work (and even so, TR usually is not very viable in the first place), while Teleport is a move that is more independent, it can work on almost all archetypes, from Bulk Offense to [probably] Stall.
I mean, I think it's kind of an apples and oranges thing. All of that applies to singles. Trick room is way more viable in doubles. It doesn't work on every archetype, but every archetype has a trick room answer (which is sometimes to have your own trick room mon to reverse the trick room). It can also be a less all in, with hybrid teams with a TR mode and fast mode, or hyper offensive teams that start out with a fast attacker to punch holes in the opposing team, and then closing it out with a trick room sweeper in TR after the first one goes down. TR has also been meta relevant it VGC far more than teleport has in singles (although that's because teleport didn't really have negative priority in competitive until gen 8 and had it's distribution cut in gen 9). In the end, TR in VGC is a more consistent presence that doesn't reach the peak that teleport did in gen 8 ou. How you balance that for the tier list is up for debate
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raid shadow legends is a trojan horse to get people to gamble btw
@@mattguy1773and drinking your mom's titty milk is a Trojan horse to get people to drink and drive
Isn't whirlwind blocked by wind rider?
No.
Take the Russian money and run
Here's something I accidentally learned about Beak Blast by playing Random Battles on showdown, that nobody seems to know: if Toucannon is asleep, it can still heat up its beak, even if it doesn't wake up for the attack itself. So if the opponent is a physical attacker, Toucannon can burn it even if it's asleep. This niche interaction won me the game
That’s a really cool tidbit. Might add that to a niche mechanics video in the future
I had no idea, that's so bizarre! I love getting Toucannon in random battles, he hits like an absolute truck, so that's really nice to know
10:38 That NPC definitely experienced a rollercoaster of emotions. His Kingler landed a Guillotine, but Wobbuffet destroyed it with Focus Sash+Counter. RIP npc!
Can’t out Wobb the Fet
@@MattBudYT well said
Editing in the "I can't hear youuu!" from the Spongebob theme song to represent the soundproof ability at 13:55 made my day during a time where my days haven't been the best. Thanks for making me laugh with this and Yugia.
for reference, whirlwind is blocked by wind rider[and both it and roar are blocked by good as ghold], and roar can't be used if the user has been affected by throat chop
whirlwind is still better
I didn’t even think about Wind Rider for Whirlwind. Throat chop would have been hilarious in early gens to block phasing attempts on baton pass teams
@@MattBudYT in ru, defensive hippowdown uses whirlwind over roar despite no relevant soundproof user, it uses it because of bisharp's throat chop
Roar is also affected by soundprood
That would mean wind power or whatever Kilowattrel's ability is also blocks whirlwind too right?
@@Moss_Dude I think it does, never seen it though.
Damn people really out here hating on the raid ads. I got absolutely no issue with them as long as you’re getting paid so you can keep making videos. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the support. Definitely helps me spend more time making and improving content❤️
You have no issue with a Poketuber [Pokemon is primarily aimed at kids] taking a sponsorship from an exploitative; predatory; gambling game? Not to mention the history of outright false and degradeing advertisement it has [like focusing on a female characters butt with the caption YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN THIS GAME]
You have absolutely no standards; Raid is literal cancer on the industry.
@@raikaria3090it’s never that fucking serious. At the end of the day, this is a job still, he has to make money somehow.
@@raikaria3090😂 I’m seriously wondering who hurt you. Congratulations I guess? You make a simple game sound like a horror movie. I agree with the other comment talking about this as of now, plus, if you’re here commenting, you watch his videos. Are you not happy he makes money. Also, little kids won’t understand these types of things that are plastered about “ you can do whatever you want “ on the game. Luckily for us, you posting hate won’t change the fact that he can do this, regardless of what you say.
I think we can all agree the ad-length here is pretty excessive though
Never forget Drayden/Iris boosting their speed w Dragon Dance, only to use negative priority Dragon Tail😂
Truly some of the greatest minds in battling history
What if you're also using dragon tail? Not so dumb now, are they?
Too niche a situation tbh@@megarayquaza2240
@@megarayquaza2240Who uses Druddigon? The only mon that can learn it without TM?
@olafmikoaj3121 ever heard of trading, sweaty? Yeah. Thought not.
Now rank all the 0 priority moves
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Trick room is basically on every vgc team and even the ones that don’t always have at least one way to counter it. Its a demon of a move
Today I learnt that shell trap isn’t a protect variation and im genuinely disappointed
Imagine it was protect on top of being that attack. Would genuinely be a great move
@@MattBudYT I always thought it was fire type spiky shield because I’ve never used turtonator before :/
@@cbp_trash1064fair enough, it’s not like it’s even a common move on the only mon with access. If you’re using Turt you probably want to try a shell smash +3 attacks set
It's just Evil Focus Punch
something funny about trick room is that, instead of reversing speed or something like that, it makes speed 9999, then substracts the speed value. since no stat can go beyond 8000 (or something like that), it substract the result by 8000, which leads to normal numbers saying the slower pokemon is actually faster.
with enough buffs, Regieleki can make the first reduction (9999 - Speed) be a legal number (under 8000), so trick room actually makes Regieleki even faster
At first I was going to comment that you forgot Metal Burst, but then I looked it up and I was stunned to learn that it's not a negative priority move. I always thought it was.
The downside of being able to work with physical and special moves
Same. I could've sworn that Chilly Reception was negative priority. I thought it was just Snow + Teleport, but no. It has no priority, just like Metal Burst.
@@solitare4602I was thinking the exact same thing! Glad it's not just me!
With trick room, Regieleki with 6x speed up and a speed nature can literally outspeed the room
6x? or +6?
+6 as that is the maximum (direct) increase in a stat which correlates to ×4.
Though for speed specifically you could still use some external modifier like Sand Rush (and similar) and Tailwind
To Vital throws credit, it is learned early by a few Pokemon and answers Sand attack spam.
I will say this about vital throw: it made it so easy to beat that one trainer with a Chansey in the Sevii Islands in FireRed/LeafGreen, and it was particularly useful because that Chansey loved to use Minimize.
breloom mentioned graaaaaaaa i love breloom
Who remembers Prankster Copycat Roar Riolu?
👋
Trick Room is one of my favorite moves in the game.
I just love setting up Trick Room with my Farigiraf and just unshackling the chains on the Ursaluna-Bloodmoon next to them.
This guy looks like he could drive a forklift
Didn't know teleport's change was a lets go change
Maybe the only positive I know that came out of those games😅
@@MattBudYTThe music was good
@@shiruotakuno28 And you can look at a cute eevee!
there is one nich for use roar and not whirlwind: wind-rider users are immune to whirwind, but not to roar.
and also, roar can activate throat spray... 😅
9:13 Actually, it is used by a ton of other mons, it is a pretty strong move in gen 3.Risky? Yeah, but can be extremely useful for punish switchs/skarm dont attacking (the main reason why skarm even uses sometimes drill peak is for avoid being hit by a focus punch from a fighting type). I think that the only OU mon that can learn it and dont use it at least on one set its blissey (for obvious reason). It is even one of the main reasons for charizard being OU. 150 power sounds a lot scarier on a metagame were you are already so terrified by a 75 power move (rock slide), at the point that if you dont have a resist vs it, it is a bad team (in most cases)
Tons of pokemon run Focus Punch in gen 3, because its great on switch
Why're people getting so upset about an ad like they can't just skip it? You know sponsors dictate how long their ad reads have to be in their contracts, right?
If the sponsors bother you that much, then get Matt to open a Patreon or channel membership so y'all can pay him directly. If you're watching his content with no intent of supporting him financially, then keep your mouth shut
One way to distinguish roar/whirlwind rankings is the abilities soundproof and wind rider usage, I’m pretty sure they stop these moves
I posted too early, oops
1:08 I have seen someone use Magic Room combined with Choice Scarf Gyarados, along with DD, it could outspeed Swift Swim Barraskewda in Rain when the room ended
The AI Mr Krabs “boutta buss” was such a jumpscare 💀
i ate chips today
were rhey good
Sick
What kind?
Man you crazy. That sodium intake and the trans fats too ? Absolutely mad !
@@MattBudYT the ones that are in the shape of a stick and are french
2:19 - @MattBudYT Face Reveal!
11:44 i use a garchomp in showdown that sets hazards and uses dragon tail
I also use it if the opponent is boosting its stats
Trick room goes brrrr
I used a Wobbuffet in my team during my Shield playthrough, the mirror coat and counter shenanigans went kinda crazy
Also! I don't play competitively, but I've been getting into videos like this, because it's genuinely fun to use videos like this to consider my team, even if I only play casual
1:08 Magic room has been used by tapu lele to surpress xerneas's power herb in the team of the 2019 worlds runners-up
I don't even play competitive much at all, not nearly enough to utilize trick room strats, and even I know about just how crazy this move is. All in all, I think this is a good video. Even people like me should have no problem digesting it.
Wishiwashi becomes a monster in trick room. Once it gets low enough, endeavor is a hilarious send off from the demon of the seas
Honestly, Wonder Room would be genuinely super interesting if instead of swapping Def and SpD it swapped Atk and SpA, that would make it a heavily disrupting move for the opponent and would also allow gimmicky strats where some Pokemon that have say a great Atk and low SpA but a great special movepool could momentarily use that great movepool as a surprise.
I could definitely see it being good in Doubles with that simple change
I like audio as a trick room cause it can pass wish encore set up mons .. use knock off. + it doesn't get pursuit trapped. Unironically a truck room setter with inner focus would be good in singles cause togekiss hard counters trick room
In 2019 Hirofumi Kimura reached second place in Worlds with a Tapu Lele that knew Magic Room
I didn’t even know wonder and magic rooms exists great video bud
9:44 I'm sorry, wobbafett. I wasn't familiar with your game like that.
There was a time when Scarf Magic Room Tapu Lele was kind of the meta-call in VGC19, since it helped hinder Xerneas teams. But this strat didn't last for too long...
Crazy face reveal from the favorite bud
Maybe more to come if I livestream😉
When BBL Drizzy taught Yatchy about Trick Room I felt that.... MattBud is the Aubrey to my Lil Boat.
I love gen 8 ou partially because of teleport. It gives room for frail Pokémon to have chances they wouldn’t otherwise, the best example of this being Weavile.
I am so confused by raid ngl
I see so many RUclipsrs get it (good for you get the bag king), but everyone in the comments seems to hate it
But obviously raid must be making a profit when they sponsor videos right??
A lot of people dislike it for a handful of reasons. The largest three are thus: Raid insists that their sponsored ad be early in the video's runtime and take up at least a full minute; the game is a gacha game, which irritates a number of individuals (and can be illegal in certain countries due to gambling legislation); and the company goes incredibly hard when it comes to pushing their advertising, thus leading to some places/channels where an ad for their game makes less sense still having them. A side reason for me is that their more traditional ads also tend to be annoying when they come on, and others may not like that the company behind Raid has designated a character in their roster as a punching bag/scapegoat. The company can also be rather predatory on their monetization, but that's partially the gacha model in general. Regardless, most people don't mind the sponsored ad reads nearly as much when they're for products or games that are actively enjoyed or have practical use, like Opera (GX and regular), VPNs, Gamer Supps, etc. Raid tends to not fit the enjoyed or useful category, so that also tends to irk people.
Yugia will haunt my nightmares...
Sometimes I wonder if they'll ever make a Room equivalent that inverts move priority. It'd be chaos.
Nice mewmore backing track. I miss the SwSh gym leader remix, idk if they unlisted it or what but I haven’t been able to find it anywhere in a while
I actually put together a Magic Room team that was terrifying if set up properly. It utilized Prankster Klefki, Rillaboom, and Choice Band Belly Drum Azumarill. Unfortunately, by the time i cooked it up Reg G was in session.
Revenge is actually a good and viable move in early game until you get better fighting moves later on. It has its purpose.
Priority is the essential Pokemon mechanic. It blows the mind.
I didn't even know Turtenator had a signature move lol
I would love to go back in time 20 years ago and show my old self a modern Slowking moveset with Teleport and Future Sight lol. I'd be like "What the hell happened?" lol
Weirdly I've actually used almost all of these moves in a completive battle. Only really never used break blast and wonder room
imo mirror coat should be better than counter since it goes well with assault vest sets. AV is an easy way to patch up your spdef, something with no physdef counterpart, and also it counts as an attack so mons with limited coverage like araquanid and magnezone can slap it on happily
I watched the plus priority moves video, so I can’t wait to see this one!
I'd buff Vital Throw, so it has 100 BP. The decreased priority would be the perfect drawback to a high-power move with perfect accuracy.
I'm honestly not the biggest trick room fan, it only lasts a short amount of turns so it's sometimes able to be played around with moves like fake out and protect. Like I get the appeal of the move, but I feel it's usually best used spur of the moment or when your opponent doesn't expect it. There's nothing worse than using tailwind at the same time your enemy uses trick room.
I am more of dragon tail enjoyer myself. Like on a Goodra or a Dipplin. Deals decent damage. Is able to break subs, incur Sealth rock or spikes damage. And it prevents them from setting up. People don't always expect Goodra to run dragon tail.
Some interesting moves. Wish i saw them more often for variety
You forgot about Metal Burst which is Mirror Coat & Counter combined but with ×1.5 damage dealt back
Metal Burst is not negative priority
@@MattBudYT O.O
I guess with Mons like Aggron & Bastiodon using it made sense
No Chilly Reception? The defense buff to ice types is pretty good
It is not negative priority
Scarf magic room was used for xerneas in vgc19 so its done morecthen wonder room albeit after it got normal priority
If 2 people use trick room, the twisted dimensions return to normal. Also at 1809 speed and up, Pokémon are so fast they outspeed trick room itself.
9:13 actually it's not used on abra anymore because it was banned from lc
I think Avalanche and Revenge should get the boost when hit by any Pokémon, not just the Pokémon at which it's directed to. Just for doubles of course, but I hate when I use Avalanche and my mon was hit that turn, but by a different opponent (even worse if it was redirected by follow me)
It could even bring some funny combos such as using a spread move with a faster target (Surf, Earthquake, etc.) to purposely hit your partner. Although Thermal Exchange Baxcalibur + a faster Lava plume user sounds OP
My favourite trick room mon is deoxys speed. Never let them know your next move
So uhh… we just gonna ignore Throh knowing Sleep Powder? 7:56
what do you guys think about wonder room to mess with iron defense zamazenta in the current vgc format? Like in a team weak to zamazenta idk I haven't played vgc in a year but maybe in a calyrex-ice trick room team or a terapagos team idk
It's way too niche to ever really see any use, plus there's better options to counter Zamazenta teams.
Simply swapping their defense stats barely does anything, especially compared to the better options that are out there.
I figured. Well at least I can hope for a bossfight in a fangame where magic room is useful (I know at least 1 example where wonder room is useful in a fangame)
7:18 my man has never seen weakness policy avalanche mamoswine
I use Hatterene for Trick Room a lot of the time mostly
isn't whirlwind blocked by wind raider as well? it would make it even with roar
The best Trick Room user to me is either Caly-Ice for power or Hatterene for utility since status moves don't exist to her, except via Mold Breaker, though she may want to hold a Clear Amulet is some bozo attempting to use Parting Shot against her so your Expanding Force onslaught doesn't stop.
Metal burst
Neutral priority
Selling out to Raid Shadow Legends? I'm so happy for you! Get that cash :)
Do you already have one for multi-hit moves?
Not yet, but it would be a good idea!
Eh Trick Room at 1. I don’t know about that. Sure definitely for VGC but I wouldn’t say that’s the case in singles.
What would you put #1 just for singles?
WHY CANT THERE BE A WONDER ROOM FOR Atk & S. Atk?????
Imagine the possibilities of like physical attackers being able to use special moves to a full effect!
It could be so cool!
Or like, a special wall like blissey being annihilated by something it would normally wall bc the effects are up!.
TINKATON COULD ACTUALLY USE GIGATON HAMMER TO GOOD EFFECT!
in short, wonder room, but attacking stats, plesae consider it Gamefreak.
Gigaton Hammer's already a physical move and Tink's Attack is higher than its Special Attack...
The move might be broken on defensive Pokémon by forcing the attacker to use their weaker attacking stat. Take alakazam for example. Being forced to use the weaker stat nullifies it almost completely. Scizor, the lati twins, weavile, and many others become easily countered.
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 YOUR KIDDING I THOUGHT ITS S ATK WAS HIGH LIKE ITS S DEF I LOOKED IT UP THATS SO SAD
you know i really wish close combat didnt exist cause in gen 3 so many pokemon run focus punch its so skillful to use too you'd even see it with pokemon with no attack like gengar to beat an incoming pursuit tyranitar
This makes no sense considering it wasn’t released until Gen 4
i said i really wish close combat didnt exist and used gen 3 as an example (just realized i didnt put focus punch there)(fixed)
@@eycphatp That makes a lot more sense, sorry
@@MichaelMcCloud29its fine i was the one that made a mistake
In VGC, could you get switch momentum by roaring your own Pokémon?
I mean... technically yes, but you have no control over what mon comes out next
Cool. Now rank every neutral priority move.
Chilly reception is in gen 9, it’s teleport + snow
Chilly is not negative prio
Not a negative priority
What's the point of moves like roar in game? Not competitively, but in regular game
They still work in game to escape a wild battle. Also, in trainer battles it still works to force your opponent to switch out into a random mon.
@@MattBudYT i guess I can see it to escape a wild battle if you're outmatched and can't run, but personally I've never found them useful in game '^^
Fav trick room user is def palkia
Let’s go is main series
What about the move healing wish
Normal priority
7:55
Why does throh have sleep powder???😂
Meant to have sleep talk shhhh🫣
wonder room nihelego was neat
Was that actually a set used somewhere?
@@MattBudYT like not seriously. though weedletwineedle used it once. idk if theres been any use beyond it but it did at least kinda work
How could you not include Farigiraf as a trick room set up pokémon
I did, rewatch that part😅
Holy shoot, face reveal
i will not take this Let's Go slander. there's a bunch of quality of life stuff from those games that makes the whole series better (namely: overworld wild pokemon)
I poo today
Pooping is my favourite 3 times of the day
Poop + shower combo is unrivaled
@@magnuspkmnI’d like to add lying in bed to that unparalleled combo
Did that just say mr rhrexx??
I don't care how fun the gatcha game is. I am not playing a game the asks me to gamble for characters.
Slowking
Where chilling joke
Face reveal!
There should be a counterpart to Trick Room that instead flips positive/negative priority moves/abilities.
I'd argue that Teleport is way more important than Trick Room. Trick Room needs the whole team to make it work (and even so, TR usually is not very viable in the first place), while Teleport is a move that is more independent, it can work on almost all archetypes, from Bulk Offense to [probably] Stall.
I mean, I think it's kind of an apples and oranges thing. All of that applies to singles. Trick room is way more viable in doubles. It doesn't work on every archetype, but every archetype has a trick room answer (which is sometimes to have your own trick room mon to reverse the trick room). It can also be a less all in, with hybrid teams with a TR mode and fast mode, or hyper offensive teams that start out with a fast attacker to punch holes in the opposing team, and then closing it out with a trick room sweeper in TR after the first one goes down. TR has also been meta relevant it VGC far more than teleport has in singles (although that's because teleport didn't really have negative priority in competitive until gen 8 and had it's distribution cut in gen 9). In the end, TR in VGC is a more consistent presence that doesn't reach the peak that teleport did in gen 8 ou. How you balance that for the tier list is up for debate
Chilling Reception?
Not negative priority