I am sure you are not equateing average Joe with John Lennon? Usually those minds srewed up by religion and drugs, target someone famous, really famous.
In violent countries like the US you can't be prominent and live long unless you have very good security. Lennon, from England, and Yoko, from Japan, just had no idea how violent the US is.
We can not blame a book, it's mental illness not a book. So sad a beautiful song writer and musician had his life cut short. I imagine how much more he could have given to the world.
why not? don't you think that book has contributed to his psychosis? and please don't be sad about something you can't undo, especially if it's not your fault and if you do, please don't spread your sadness in comments on youtube hope it helps
I remember reading the book, "Catcher In The Rye", way back in 9th grade (1978), in English glass in America. I really liked the book, and my teacher thought every student would benefit from reading the book - except people like Chapman who took the book to a different level - murder.
Salinger was a writer in despair. He'd served in WWII and had been present at the liberation of some of the concentration camps. He hated what made humans, human: The ability to hold ulterior motives or "hidden" motives. This is why Holden loves his little sister so much - she's not mature enough yet to have this second-order type of thinking. Like a puppy dog, she's straight out with her emotions and thoughts, with no layers to them. Anyone with layers is a "phony" because to Salinger, anyone who can have layers or hidden motives in their thinking is capable of setting up another Auschwitz if they're able. John Lennon would have fallen from favor because he was a real, mature, human being with changing ideas and goals in life. People like Chapman wanted The Beatles to stay together and just sing simple pop songs like it's 1962 forever.
@@smokeebluntz838 These theories aren't mutually exclusive though. I agree with that explanation of the message of the book.The disillusionment of the adult's nature. But the CIA probably amplified Chapman's negative views on certain aspects of human nature to an "ultra level" in which the murder was inevitable. They probably made him feel like a hero because of it too- a martyr. Whether they felt Lennon was becoming too politically influential, or he somehow knew things that he wasn't meant too, I'll always believe this was a targeted hit on Lennon by people in much higher places than Chapman.
@@christar9527 I agree. Unless you mean the KGB or FBI. CIA have 0 accountability to anybody or anything. Of course rogue agencies can and will be bought and for to perform tasks. Just a mercenary I guess is the simple word to describe it. Why taxpayers pay for mercenaries who just care about lining their own pockets? Well I guess that's just one of the US' policies that make 0 sense to me.
I remember this all too well. I remember thinking to myself: "All I know is - 'I'm sure glad that I'm not an American in London right now''; this whole thing brought about a profound social depression. There was something about John's loss that signified a turning point - a cultural turning point, - like saying goodbye to an old friend - and registering an anxiety about where the world was going, at the same time. I read The Catcher... when I was young. It affected me more than I feel comfortable exposing.
At the heart of all such attacks is a person unable to form a personal identity, feeling themselves a "no one", desparately, frantically determined to be a "someone".
I like your comment. If you look around all the people that became a someone have their own unique set of issues to deal with too. Some end so tragically. They need to be thankful they have food, a roof over their head, and maybe even a loving family.
I remember when this happened. Howard Cossell paused from Monday Night football to announce that he had been killed. People were not to thrilled about him like they once were. However after he was killed he became very popular once again.
This kind of delusion is almost as bad as the people who know they've never met a celebrity but are convinced they are in a relationship with them and that the celebrity is in love with them. It's so bizarre and often leads in the stalker harming the celebrity, like in the case of Christina Grimmie
@@vladimirputinforUSA exactly!! When I first read their comment I was so confused lol because it made absolutely no sense 😂 you took the words right out of my mouth so thanks for addressing that 👍
why are there people in these comments trying to point out john's flaws? god, read the room. most lennon/beatles fans don't think of him as a perfect person, he definitely wasn't, but bringing up someone's mistakes and shortcomings in the comment section of a video about their murderer is maybe not appropriate? john dedicated much of his life to peace and love after realizing his problems. what more could you ask of someone who has made mistakes in their past? if someone does something wrong, do you want them to just disappear? or die? because, again - what more could someone do than change their ways and become a better person? this negative point of view about lennon is especially unfair because a lot of anti-john folks are extremely supportive of modern artists and musicians who have done MUCH worse things in their life than john ever did. i'm so tired of this dialogue surrounding him, please stop trying to ruin his image and make him out to be something that he wasn't.
This is a good documentary. After I finished watching it I realized just how lucky I was to have venerated the stories of brave, tough, fiercely independent, resilient frontiersmen who took an extremely realistic approach to life, one reinforced every hour of the day by the enormously exhilarating business of outdoor survival. You can't be crazy and live off the land at the same time. I found great role models in the books I read. Mark David Chapman had been unstable and delusional for most of his life (before the murder). These problems were intensified by repeated failure and a terrible role model; Holden Caufield. I read The Catcher In The Rye. I recognized the book's literary value by I was disgusted by Holden Caufield's emotional instability and weakness. John David Chapman emulated Caufield because he was just as crazy as he was.
And yet, nearly 41 years later, it still doesn't seem real. I had bought a copy of Double Fantasy only two days prior. It has been on my wall in a frame for many years. John's grand finale. x
Don't ever mention that ajoles name again in public, please. As George asked. His entire DNA line is shamed forever and should have been eradicated by a real justice system, if not for depraved, weak New Yorkers.
The catcher in the rye ? Hmm! the title has always made me visualize a baseball player in a wheat field. John's gone people like him are dwindling away ! the sixties and seventies are fading away. peace and love yeah right . These times makes me miss a good old fashioned dope smokin hippie
It’s really scary how he seems quite sane and aware of what he’s about to do and tries to persuade himself from doing it, but ends up still going through with it in the end .. Depression seems to have played a big role in what he did, and with so many of us today suffering from depression, it’s scary to think that you might lost it like that someday ..
His depression played a role. Something else is there too. Planning that out and all of the time in between would have given him the clarity to see his problem and he wouldn’t have done it if it were just depression. Something is missing in this story
The bigger tragedy is what didn't happen: In 1977, Chapman moved to Hawaii, where he attempted suicide by carbon monoxide asphyxiation. He connected a hose to his car's exhaust pipe, but the hose melted and the attempt failed.
His kind should always Off themselves without damaging anybody else. It's the Golden Rule from thousands of years ago. Pity he didn't have fentanyl to help, too.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 , there is no reason for kids not to play outside but parents have become so incredibly irrationally paranoid and play his become to programmed. It really his charged. I remember visiting Canada from the U.S. 20 years ago and was amazed to see children playing outside, something I no longer saw in the U.S.
read as much HIstory and watch as many History documentaries as you can...History of anything....it will serve you well whatever you end up doing trust me on that one....you cannot fully understand the present and future without knowing the Past.
Just have to mention the stark contrast between Mark and his ex, earlier when friends mentioned how Mark dismissed anyone who somehow made Mark detest them, he stated they are dead. Meanwhile, his ex, whom they haven’t had any romantic relationship for a while before things escalated, she specifically said Mark to her wasn’t dead, but gone. She had the empathy to search for some part of Mark that she once loved, while Mark would find an excuse to eliminate anyone who he deemed unworthy of a second chance. Thought how interesting that contrast was between the two.
amazing how seemingly minor things can have major consequences for the world...like what if the Vienna Art School had accepted Hitler's application to study there instead of rejecting it?What if Hitler's mother's doctor not been jewish?
It seems to me, he was jealous and wanted to be like the Beatles and loved by everyone like John Lennon. That is what I took from this monster's conversation piece.
As magazines used to say years ago, "Watch this space". Watch the US closely over the next few years. A lot of really witty, artistic, intelligent people are going to be killed here if they can't get out.
@Belltown Daisy dont be so fast daisy you see folks daisy was there when when they had there open relationship agreement which they at certain times spoke of but i agree in many ways he was not a good guy like all of us
I was ten when Lennon was murdered. I was in my room and my mom came in and told me that John Lennon had just been killed. Although I was a Beatles fan I didnt recognize the name, as I only knew the faces of the singers not their names (I was just a young boy. I loved the films Yellow Submarine and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band). But I soon made the connection as to who John Lennon was (the glasses one from Yellow Submarine).
@Belltown Daisy Oh, I’m sorry.Indeed, I don’t know Yoko Ono details. She is a Japanese but in Japan, Many Japanese don’t know her details and background same as me. Maybe John Lennon is a so famous in the world ✨ Young Japanese people don’t know Yoko Ono.
There has never been a more tragic loss in music. I grew up listening to the Beatles and really grew to love John's solo work. Double fantasy is an amazing album. I feel a loss I can't explain growing up in a time when he was not alive.
@@I-got-a-big-dick yeah but unless were talking Kurt Cobain, none come close to these too. Oh and Hendrix. There the ones you cant tell the story of there genres without mentioning there names.
@@brandonbryant5032 I’m Afraid You Are Wrong. Patsy Cline, Selena Quintanilla, David Bowie, Prince, Elvis Presley, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Along With Kurt Cobain, Were All Pretty Tragic Deaths. Especially Elvis Presley. Elvis Is The King Of Rock N Roll, And When He Died It Was Like The End Of The World For Most People. My Grandma Was A Huge Fan, She Was So Affected By It, She Burned Her Stuff Of Him.
@@rocksannbrown6398 yeah but it also has to do with ones taste, all tragic deaths yes, but mainly I'm talking the 27 club, the ones who's albums we never got cause they were cut short, Elvis was like 50 and overdosed he was already damn near done and Cobain or Hendrix OD/passed away they were just really young and still ramping up to there grand masters. Death is Death but dying young with all the potential in the world, that's tragedy to me cause in a different multiverse, they lived and got them albums done that we never saw, that's Tragedy.
I had a dream the night before that I knocked on their door, i was invited in and we sat at a white table, EVERYTHING was bright white. Sean rode around on his little bike. A huge bulletin board on the wall and we spent hours as John and Yoko gave a story about napkins, match etc.. we had tea. They walked me we gave nice hugs and Peace, see you soon. I woke up and went right to the kitchen and told my Mom. '"I just had the best as if i was there dream about an afternoon at John Lennon's Apartment at the Dakota, how cool is that Mommy?" I was high on it all day, told friends, even my mailman! Around 10:45 that dream turned into a nightmare...😪
Reminds me of the night Robin Williams died (before it was announced in the news,) only I was driving home from work and at that moment flashing in my mind was all the movies he was involved in and how they impacted me; and it wasn't something I would normally think about. Sometimes, I believe such things are more than randomness.
Don't blame the paperback writer, the wizard of Oz or Hans Christian Andersen. Distorted brains always will find something to feed their unrest, if it isn't a particular book, it will be a movie or a music album with or without "backward Satanic messages"... (always wondered how these guys who found such messages went at work to listen to a backward playing record, but well, that's another story... I'm more "afraid" of hidden persuaders that make people buy more Coke or Marlboro.
And at his worst he was also constantly verbally abusive, hyper-jealous and Scrooge stingy to his immediate family. He reaped in death what he sowed in life, as we all do. Sure he wrote some nice songs here and there but there was a definite and overwhelming darkness there as well.
@@michaeljoseph3528 Julian Lennon was abandoned by John after he divorced his mother, he was left nothing in the will, he had to sue yoko to get some of his father's belongings while yoko was selling everything at auction and in the end Julian had to sue his father's estate, the court case went on for over 10 years until they settled out of court. Read about it
Hard to understand, how it went from music and culture to extreme violence, resulting in tragedy. Individuals with mental issues should be kept away, especially when the signs are noticeable.
I have yet to see or hear of Chapman having been diagnosed with any major mental illness, let alone one that was a significant contributing factor in the assassination of Lennon. America is an extremely violent country. It has allowed presidents, major officials and leaders, innocent people going about their business, and even school children of all ages to be mowed down by firearms without taking any significant or meaningful action to curb such easy (and still entirely legal) access to them or their use.
@@camel303 I know but it feels like the media has given him exactly what he murdered Lennon for: fame! I suppose I should have said don’t make him any more famous than he already is
2:17-2:25. Are those actual photos from the crime scene? They're almost impossible to find anywhere. Especially the last one. The room where he collapsed.
the ones of the door are real, I don’t know the authenticity of the last one. You’re right tho you can’t find them anywhere and it’s pretty interesting seeing them here
There was a deep sadness in John that he covered up with a smile and a sense of humor. Boring people that lack a sense of humor sometimes see that as being "phoney" although it's complete bullshit.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea !" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?"
Mark Chapman is an absolute MONSTER for killing poor John Lennon !!!!! just as bad as the disgusting CHILD MOLESTERS out there !!!!!! :( Rest in peace John you are very much loved by everybody GOD BLESS AMEN
On the whole, British television does a much better job producing a news documentaries than does American television.* They are sober, thoughtful, disinterested (look up the definition before presuming you know what that means) and solid journalism. I especially appreciate the context in which it places this tragic event, helping the viewer to understand that Lebanon’s assassination was one in a series of many such killings that were and continue to be part of American society in a way that they are not in any other modern, developed democracy. (*And I’m certainly NOT including such ridiculous staged “news” outlets as Fox News or their ilk, which even the courts have ruled is really an entertainment outlet, not news, nor the other Murdoch-owned news organs such as the tabloid newspapers.)
The Governor doesn’t have that power in New York or most states. It must first be recommended by a parole board, and those recommendations, let alone an approval, are extraordinarily rare.
What a sad, sad waste. What on earth was he trying to achieve? Total waste. (Must say, I got a chuckle when that reporter asked, "is he a screwball?!" Is that the technical language?)
poor kid was obviously abused and mentally traumatized to carry out this assasination of John Lennon. Gerorge Harrison was attempted later on. what a burden he must feel if he feels at all
Hawaii is a hotbed of what I call Kooky Kristians. People think of Hawaii as a liberal place and it is, but it's also got quite a few people who'd be speaking in tongues and handling rattlesnakes if Hawaii had rattlesnakes. There are all these nutzy little cults, some affiliated with Christianity, that are great places to train and indoctrinate assassins. I read a book years ago saying exactly what my theory is: That Lennon had insulted Right-Wing Christianity and was also going to do less music and more political action and thus the Kooky Kristians wanted him killed.
All I can say ,in this spher of mortal life,we can't chose how we died or past away,just because life and death is packaged, every one must past nobody's failed,its part of our existence ,John death,we can consider as phenomenal,I can't blame champman or his gun,I mean everything or event have purpose, phenomenal
There are precious few sensible ones. I’d argue that not even death penalty executions are sensible or justifiable murders. I think John Lennon would be with me on that one.
While I totally detest what Chapman did, I know this sounds strange but the only comfort I can find, I love John Lennon The Beatles my all-time favorite,I don't ever want Chapman to get out but I do truly believe he was mentally ill. I feel that the Lord forgives me and I have to forgive and it is hard.
Who bothers with “likes”? They are meaningless, especially since down votes are no longer recorded. I never up-vote a video regardless of how good it is. It’s more about RUclips (and Google) tracking and creating a profile of you as a user than anything having to do with recognition of worthy content.
The Lennon murder and the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan were connected....By Reagan's own vice-president,.......and does anyone remember who that was???????
It's pretty terrifying someone in the world, who you have no affiliation or relationship with, can target you and take your life at any moment.
Unless he's programmed and mk-ultria controlled.
There's a picture of Chapman waiting fur an autograph minutes before he murdered him
@@svenlima Absolutely.
I am sure you are not equateing average Joe with John Lennon? Usually those minds srewed up by religion and drugs, target someone famous, really famous.
In violent countries like the US you can't be prominent and live long unless you have very good security. Lennon, from England, and Yoko, from Japan, just had no idea how violent the US is.
I wish documentaries were still made like this. No sensationalism. No polarization.
What story would you like to see a documentary on? I'm a film maker, and looking for something interesting to do. I like this style as well.
Rest in peace John Lennon. Gone but never forgotten. 💗
Yes, I do agree with you.✨
『Imagine 』
We will die someday, but his message never die.
At least not for another 50-100 years or so
We can not blame a book, it's mental illness not a book. So sad a beautiful song writer and musician had his life cut short. I imagine how much more he could have given to the world.
why not? don't you think that book has contributed to his psychosis?
and please don't be sad about something you can't undo, especially if it's not your fault
and if you do, please don't spread your sadness in comments on youtube
hope it helps
@owieri I say this in kindness... Sadness is a human emotion. To push down our sadness is ti deny our humanity.
& his two sons and Yoko. So sad. 💔
Chapman is NOT the shooter
@HappyMadness2 yes he is. There were witnesses, and he admitted to it.
Now he is "The catcher in the cell".
I remember reading the book, "Catcher In The Rye", way back in 9th grade (1978), in English glass in America. I really liked the book, and my teacher thought every student would benefit from reading the book - except people like Chapman who took the book to a different level - murder.
Salinger was a writer in despair. He'd served in WWII and had been present at the liberation of some of the concentration camps. He hated what made humans, human: The ability to hold ulterior motives or "hidden" motives. This is why Holden loves his little sister so much - she's not mature enough yet to have this second-order type of thinking. Like a puppy dog, she's straight out with her emotions and thoughts, with no layers to them. Anyone with layers is a "phony" because to Salinger, anyone who can have layers or hidden motives in their thinking is capable of setting up another Auschwitz if they're able. John Lennon would have fallen from favor because he was a real, mature, human being with changing ideas and goals in life. People like Chapman wanted The Beatles to stay together and just sing simple pop songs like it's 1962 forever.
@@alexcarter8807 I believe he was a scapegoat remember US been tryna get John deported
@@smokeebluntz838 These theories aren't mutually exclusive though. I agree with that explanation of the message of the book.The disillusionment of the adult's nature. But the CIA probably amplified Chapman's negative views on certain aspects of human nature to an "ultra level" in which the murder was inevitable. They probably made him feel like a hero because of it too- a martyr. Whether they felt Lennon was becoming too politically influential, or he somehow knew things that he wasn't meant too, I'll always believe this was a targeted hit on Lennon by people in much higher places than Chapman.
@@billy6pack887 A targeted hit by a well known three letter agency. I think that this book was used to program hitmen like Chapmen.
@@christar9527 I agree. Unless you mean the KGB or FBI. CIA have 0 accountability to anybody or anything. Of course rogue agencies can and will be bought and for to perform tasks. Just a mercenary I guess is the simple word to describe it. Why taxpayers pay for mercenaries who just care about lining their own pockets? Well I guess that's just one of the US' policies that make 0 sense to me.
I remember this all too well. I remember thinking to myself: "All I know is -
'I'm sure glad that I'm not an American in London right now''; this whole thing brought about a profound social depression. There was something about John's loss that signified a turning point - a cultural turning point, - like saying goodbye to an old friend -
and registering an anxiety about where the world was going, at the same time.
I read The Catcher... when
I was young.
It affected me more than I feel comfortable exposing.
Why London? Or do you mean UK?
Hey Jackie. Thanks for sharing 👍
Lennon out...Ronald Reagan in...and thus began the 1980s - oh yeah it was a definitive cultural turning point in History for sure
I REMEBER ALSO!....and I remember thinking "Well the CIA just removed one of our best leaders"...
@@leewood842 yes, Lennon was considered the greatest Atheist of all time ⚛
I was utterly devasted when John was murdered.
I was about to finish up my enlistment in the marine corps when we lost a musical genius. I'll never forget. R.I.P John Lennon.......
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F this guy M. Chapman I could never bring myself to read Catcher in the Rye because of this John Lennon murder
@@jerrymoses4147 8
The book was great. I never liked the Beatles
At the heart of all such attacks is a person unable to form a personal identity, feeling themselves a "no one", desparately, frantically determined to be a "someone".
I like your comment. If you look around all the people that became a someone have their own unique set of issues to deal with too. Some end so tragically. They need to be thankful they have food, a roof over their head, and maybe even a loving family.
He was a real Nowhere Man.
@@Mrch33ky He's some where now.
I completely agree. All of these perpetrators of attacks on well known public figures seem to lack a personal identity that they are content with.
@Belltown Daisy Thanks for the heads up. 😬
I remember when this happened. Howard Cossell paused from Monday Night football to announce that he had been killed. People were not to thrilled about him like they once were. However after he was killed he became very popular once again.
Pathetic the extremes people go thinking they'll be a legend,,, in his own mind!!!!
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This kind of delusion is almost as bad as the people who know they've never met a celebrity but are convinced they are in a relationship with them and that the celebrity is in love with them. It's so bizarre and often leads in the stalker harming the celebrity, like in the case of Christina Grimmie
All you need is love ,this song says alot about his thoughts
Premeditated murder, he should never be released!!
I'd say he'd be dead within a week of his "release". Let him out!!!
forgive him
@@cameronpickard7456 No. I don't have to, and do not.
@@cameronpickard7456 Are you mental? People like him should never be released.
@@davidb2206 I hope he does get released some day…he won’t survive 10 minutes on the outside world 😍
“What is a drug for many people is a drug for others, Chapman is one of those others.” Boy, this quote certainly still resonates today.
please explain the quote.
@@kidgrebo1 guy become someone else when high
The quote was “what is a mild drug for many of us is a poison for others”
If you’re not going to quote it exactly how it was said, then don’t do it. First you messed up the quote, second that is not how it was said
@@vladimirputinforUSA exactly!! When I first read their comment I was so confused lol because it made absolutely no sense 😂 you took the words right out of my mouth so thanks for addressing that 👍
why are there people in these comments trying to point out john's flaws? god, read the room. most lennon/beatles fans don't think of him as a perfect person, he definitely wasn't, but bringing up someone's mistakes and shortcomings in the comment section of a video about their murderer is maybe not appropriate? john dedicated much of his life to peace and love after realizing his problems. what more could you ask of someone who has made mistakes in their past? if someone does something wrong, do you want them to just disappear? or die? because, again - what more could someone do than change their ways and become a better person? this negative point of view about lennon is especially unfair because a lot of anti-john folks are extremely supportive of modern artists and musicians who have done MUCH worse things in their life than john ever did. i'm so tired of this dialogue surrounding him, please stop trying to ruin his image and make him out to be something that he wasn't.
This quite interesting and true!
One of the more thoughtful comments on here, and despite its grammatical flaws, still more articulate and legible than a lot of others.
Exactly. John had flaws but was always honest about them. That’s what made his music so special, it came from a very real place.
I was 6. I still remember that day when it came on the news.
This is a good documentary. After I finished watching it I realized just how lucky I was to have venerated the stories of brave, tough, fiercely independent, resilient frontiersmen who took an extremely realistic approach to life, one reinforced every hour of the day by the enormously exhilarating business of outdoor survival. You can't be crazy and live off the land at the same time. I found great role models in the books I read. Mark David Chapman had been unstable and delusional for most of his life (before the murder). These problems were intensified by repeated failure and a terrible role model; Holden Caufield. I read The Catcher In The Rye. I recognized the book's literary value by I was disgusted by Holden Caufield's emotional instability and weakness. John David Chapman emulated Caufield because he was just as crazy as he was.
Mark David, not John David.
"No, let's go home because I want to see Sean before he goes to sleep." - John 😔
Too bad he didn't have the same enthusiasm for Julian....smh
And yet, nearly 41 years later, it still doesn't seem real. I had bought a copy of Double Fantasy only two days prior. It has been on my wall in a frame for many years. John's grand finale. x
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Listening to John Lennon talk is far far more enlightening than listening to Mark David Chapman talk, for real!!
Don't ever mention that ajoles name again in public, please. As George asked. His entire DNA line is shamed forever and should have been eradicated by a real justice system, if not for depraved, weak New Yorkers.
chapmans no dummy
@@cameronpickard7456he is/was an Insane Idiot!
The catcher in the rye ? Hmm! the title has always made me visualize a baseball player in a wheat field. John's gone people like him are dwindling away ! the sixties and seventies are fading away. peace and love yeah right . These times makes me miss a good old fashioned dope smokin hippie
reminds me more like+children of the corn.
What in god's name are you blathering about
Yeah that’s what everyone’s thinking right now…. we really need more Democrats😩🤣
It’s really scary how he seems quite sane and aware of what he’s about to do and tries to persuade himself from doing it, but ends up still going through with it in the end .. Depression seems to have played a big role in what he did, and with so many of us today suffering from depression, it’s scary to think that you might lost it like that someday ..
His depression played a role. Something else is there too. Planning that out and all of the time in between would have given him the clarity to see his problem and he wouldn’t have done it if it were just depression. Something is missing in this story
@@MrJason9142002 narcissism.
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He destroyed the chance of any future Beatles reunions 😥
But he won't be allowed to be released without parole
I don’t think that was the worst outcome of the shooting nor really on any list of the major consequences that resulted.
Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin had reunions and they didn't impress me...
The bigger tragedy is what didn't happen:
In 1977, Chapman moved to Hawaii, where he attempted suicide by carbon monoxide asphyxiation. He connected a hose to his car's exhaust pipe, but the hose melted and the attempt failed.
His kind should always Off themselves without damaging anybody else. It's the Golden Rule from thousands of years ago. Pity he didn't have fentanyl to help, too.
Such a crazy story. I'm too young to really appreciate it and what the 60s were like as I was born late 80s.
The biggest ,best singer of all time ,cut down by a mind controlled gunman?
@Josh Traffanstedt I played outside all the time and I was born in the late 90s. Kids still play outside today. No need to overgeneralize.
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820 , there is no reason for kids not to play outside but parents have become so incredibly irrationally paranoid and play his become to programmed. It really his charged. I remember visiting Canada from the U.S. 20 years ago and was amazed to see children playing outside, something I no longer saw in the U.S.
read as much HIstory and watch as many History documentaries as you can...History of anything....it will serve you well whatever you end up doing trust me on that one....you cannot fully understand the present and future without knowing the Past.
Just have to mention the stark contrast between Mark and his ex, earlier when friends mentioned how Mark dismissed anyone who somehow made Mark detest them, he stated they are dead. Meanwhile, his ex, whom they haven’t had any romantic relationship for a while before things escalated, she specifically said Mark to her wasn’t dead, but gone. She had the empathy to search for some part of Mark that she once loved, while Mark would find an excuse to eliminate anyone who he deemed unworthy of a second chance. Thought how interesting that contrast was between the two.
If only that fisherman had not found Chatman’s car on that beach,, how different things would have turned out.
amazing how seemingly minor things can have major consequences for the world...like what if the Vienna Art School had accepted Hitler's application to study there instead of rejecting it?What if Hitler's mother's doctor not been jewish?
just to show the past is irelevant
It seems to me, he was jealous and wanted to be like the Beatles and loved by everyone like John Lennon. That is what I took from this monster's conversation piece.
He killed a wonderful peaceful man and I can imagine how much wonderful music he would have made by now so terrible rest in peace John
As magazines used to say years ago, "Watch this space". Watch the US closely over the next few years. A lot of really witty, artistic, intelligent people are going to be killed here if they can't get out.
Read up on Lennon. He didn't deserve death, but was by no means a 'wonderful peaceful man'.
@Belltown Daisy ok?
@Belltown Daisy dont be so fast daisy you see folks daisy was there when when they had there open relationship agreement which they at certain times spoke of but i agree in many ways he was not a good guy like all of us
He sold peace. There's a difference. I love his music but he was not peaceful.
Unfortunately, in the US tiny men with tiny hands have access to guns
He wasn’t tiny or had tiny hands lol what are you on about?
@@Nate-tp5ix I don’t think he means literally 😂
@@Nate-tp5ix you know what they say about men with small hands...
@@tommyl.dayandtherunaways820, they look like Trump - though that’s an image NOBODY wants in their mind.
That’s why Paul is very open about his anti-gun views
I was ten when Lennon was murdered. I was in my room and my mom came in and told me that John Lennon had just been killed. Although I was a Beatles fan I didnt recognize the name, as I only knew the faces of the singers not their names (I was just a young boy. I loved the films Yellow Submarine and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band). But I soon made the connection as to who John Lennon was (the glasses one from Yellow Submarine).
『Imagine 』
Indeed, he was a dreamer, but I want his dream will come true someday ✨
God bless him and Yoko Ono and his family.
@Belltown Daisy
Oh, I’m sorry.Indeed, I don’t know Yoko Ono details. She is a Japanese but in Japan, Many Japanese don’t know her details and background same as me.
Maybe John Lennon is a so famous in the world ✨
Young Japanese people don’t know Yoko Ono.
They don’t believe in God tho…
There are very few friends I would ever tell “EVER” so I’ll just tell the whole world on this video ,
LOL right?
Yoko Ono:"John was not ready to die."
Senseless killing, he just kill the man just to be famous, nothing more
What happened to him? That always troubles me that people start out as babies and can end up as broken.
Imagine his suicide attempt having been successful, imagine John still being with us. Imagine ❤
@PirateCat91 Yup.
Lennon imagined and got it came true for him as it does everyone.
How do you imagine reality? Are you the biggest thing you know?
@PirateCat91 We'll never know 😒
mdc the only loser worse than donald trump
@@joanfrellburg4901 Hillary. Definitely a worse loser.
Let's go Brandon!
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@@bradrichards8122 Funny, I bet you believe it was stolen. Hillary inciting an insurrection was kind of bad though.
There has never been a more tragic loss in music. I grew up listening to the Beatles and really grew to love John's solo work. Double fantasy is an amazing album. I feel a loss I can't explain growing up in a time when he was not alive.
A lot of great artist have died, what are you taking about? 🤣
@@I-got-a-big-dick yeah but unless were talking Kurt Cobain, none come close to these too. Oh and Hendrix. There the ones you cant tell the story of there genres without mentioning there names.
@@brandonbryant5032 I’m Afraid You Are Wrong. Patsy Cline, Selena Quintanilla, David Bowie, Prince, Elvis Presley, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Along With Kurt Cobain, Were All Pretty Tragic Deaths. Especially Elvis Presley. Elvis Is The King Of Rock N Roll, And When He Died It Was Like The End Of The World For Most People. My Grandma Was A Huge Fan, She Was So Affected By It, She Burned Her Stuff Of Him.
@@rocksannbrown6398 yeah but it also has to do with ones taste, all tragic deaths yes, but mainly I'm talking the 27 club, the ones who's albums we never got cause they were cut short, Elvis was like 50 and overdosed he was already damn near done and Cobain or Hendrix OD/passed away they were just really young and still ramping up to there grand masters. Death is Death but dying young with all the potential in the world, that's tragedy to me cause in a different multiverse, they lived and got them albums done that we never saw, that's Tragedy.
@@I-got-a-big-dick he was killed , not just died
"Is he a screwball? "
Excellent journalist. 🙄
🦅I would've answered to the journalist and say "Yes" because he murdered someone famous and gifted!
It's the little things that are crazy. If that fisher man had never intervened in the suicide, John Lennon may still be alive
This murder was a tragic wrong-doing, but bizarre indeed that how many fans suicided for but the reason that he died
Very good point. 🤔 😔
I've never heard this... a single case or a sizable number?
Me neither, some people did take their lives because the suicide of Kurt Cobain.
poor lennon. trusting with his fans. so sad.
Perfect timing while Disney+ have documentary about The Beatles!
RUclips is free though
😆 He wouldn't pay for Disney plus that's for sure
Yeah could be planned that way.
😱😱 hollow point bullets. . . Thats kind that blow huge holes. Poor John I bet his last minutes were agony, he had to feel the 1st 3 more
I had a dream the night before that I knocked on their door, i was invited in and we sat at a white table, EVERYTHING was bright white. Sean rode around on his little bike. A huge bulletin board on the wall and we spent hours as John and Yoko gave a story about napkins, match etc.. we had tea. They walked me we gave nice hugs and Peace, see you soon. I woke up and went right to the kitchen and told my Mom. '"I just had the best as if i was there dream about an afternoon at John Lennon's Apartment at the Dakota, how cool is that Mommy?" I was high on it all day, told friends, even my mailman! Around 10:45 that dream turned into a nightmare...😪
Reminds me of the night Robin Williams died (before it was announced in the news,) only I was driving home from work and at that moment flashing in my mind was all the movies he was involved in and how they impacted me; and it wasn't something I would normally think about. Sometimes, I believe such things are more than randomness.
Yeah….what drug or drugs and how much did you take before you had this “dream”? 🤨
@@dfdemt 🤣
It’s called coincidence.
Don't blame the paperback writer, the wizard of Oz or Hans Christian Andersen. Distorted brains always will find something to feed their unrest, if it isn't a particular book, it will be a movie or a music album with or without "backward Satanic messages"... (always wondered how these guys who found such messages went at work to listen to a backward playing record, but well, that's another story... I'm more "afraid" of hidden persuaders that make people buy more Coke or Marlboro.
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RIP John Lennon
Didnt know this....learning something from his movie
Man...imagine the fish downstream from all that dope being flushed at church...
Huh?
intellectual genius with a heart full of soul our JOHN LENNON..
And at his worst he was also constantly verbally abusive, hyper-jealous and Scrooge stingy to his immediate family. He reaped in death what he sowed in life, as we all do. Sure he wrote some nice songs here and there but there was a definite and overwhelming darkness there as well.
Preached about love when he abandoned his own child and leaves him out of his will..nice guy that John
@@Mrch33ky you CIA freak?
@@italiadude1972 Where is the proof? Including the background?
@@michaeljoseph3528 Julian Lennon was abandoned by John after he divorced his mother, he was left nothing in the will, he had to sue yoko to get some of his father's belongings while yoko was selling everything at auction and in the end Julian had to sue his father's estate, the court case went on for over 10 years until they settled out of court. Read about it
Hard to understand, how it went from music and culture to extreme violence, resulting in tragedy. Individuals with mental issues should be kept away, especially when the signs are noticeable.
Kept away? They should be "treated" not kept away... Duh...
Kept away, wtf? Weirdo
I have yet to see or hear of Chapman having been diagnosed with any major mental illness, let alone one that was a significant contributing factor in the assassination of Lennon.
America is an extremely violent country. It has allowed presidents, major officials and leaders, innocent people going about their business, and even school children of all ages to be mowed down by firearms without taking any significant or meaningful action to curb such easy (and still entirely legal) access to them or their use.
‘Individuals with mental issues’- you mean all of humanity?
I remember that night like it was yesterday.
Happy Christmas! War is over if you want it! ~John Lennon
What a coward.
and a terrible person...
I wish people would stop making this clown (chapman) famous by drawing attention to him.
Come on, he became famous because he murdered the most famous man on earth. Has nothing to do with this history documentary.
@@camel303 I know but it feels like the media has given him exactly what he murdered Lennon for: fame! I suppose I should have said don’t make him any more famous than he already is
Chapman was not seeking fame.
@@markkromer1238 The devil made him do it
@@camel303 no he didn't Chapman did it himself no other entity influenced him but himself
I just bought the book he keeps talking about im actually super curious.
Go go buy a random plane ticket now 😳
Was required reading for us in the school back in the early 70s
So it worked then...
You haven’t by any chance been harboring any lingering resentments towards any celebrities, have you?
You never read Catcher in the Rye? It's a classic
2:17-2:25. Are those actual photos from the crime scene? They're almost impossible to find anywhere. Especially the last one. The room where he collapsed.
the ones of the door are real, I don’t know the authenticity of the last one. You’re right tho you can’t find them anywhere and it’s pretty interesting seeing them here
It's John Lennon comment regarding Jesus that might infuriated him, but taking law into his own hands can't be justified.
the fact that John Lennon was perhaps the least phoney of any rock star obviously eluded Chapman's simple twisted brain
There was a deep sadness in John that he covered up with a smile and a sense of humor. Boring people that lack a sense of humor sometimes see that as being "phoney" although it's complete bullshit.
butters did it
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea !"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?"
47:57 Stated perfectly and here we are in 2022. Still holds true.
Worlds most hated criminal?
Chapman's voice sounds just like Jones voice from Jones Town.
Oooo, spooky! 🙄
Mark Chapman is an absolute MONSTER for killing poor John Lennon !!!!! just as bad as the disgusting CHILD MOLESTERS out there !!!!!! :( Rest in peace John you are very much loved by everybody GOD BLESS AMEN
Some of you guys are obsessed with child molesters. If you’ve been a victim then get help. If you haven’t been a victim PLEASE get help.
Rock & Roll made him rebel. Religion made him kill. You tell me which one is worse?
Lennon would certainly have been annoyed to death if he could read the comments here.
And also about how stupid mankind has become.
With the comments there are of course exceptions
It’s not a new phenomenon.
We miss you John. Fly high. 🙏❤
On the whole, British television does a much better job producing a news documentaries than does American television.* They are sober, thoughtful, disinterested (look up the definition before presuming you know what that means) and solid journalism.
I especially appreciate the context in which it places this tragic event, helping the viewer to understand that Lebanon’s assassination was one in a series of many such killings that were and continue to be part of American society in a way that they are not in any other modern, developed democracy.
(*And I’m certainly NOT including such ridiculous staged “news” outlets as Fox News or their ilk, which even the courts have ruled is really an entertainment outlet, not news, nor the other Murdoch-owned news organs such as the tabloid newspapers.)
I am sorry Lebanon is dead.
@@friedrich.w.nietzschePraise Jod Lebanon
Totally not a biased take move along folks 😂
You know what they say.
When life gives you Lennons, you make Swiss cheese.
He will Never be Released. No State Governor would want it on their Record.
The Governor doesn’t have that power in New York or most states. It must first be recommended by a parole board, and those recommendations, let alone an approval, are extraordinarily rare.
Be in peace John Lennon. People still love you to even now.
He's insane. We lost a famous musician 😞
john lennon changed the world but chapman changed john lennon ;)
Wow. Deep. So profound.
No one has THE RIGHT TO TAKE A HUMAN LIFE. ONLY GOD!!! ONLY GOD!!! HE IS A BORN KILLER
That is why no one should be compelled to pay taxes that support the military.
What a sad, sad waste.
What on earth was he trying to achieve? Total waste. (Must say, I got a chuckle when that reporter asked, "is he a screwball?!" Is that the technical language?)
The book The catcher and the Rye itself isn’t the problem, it’s certain peoples demented twisted mind like Chapmin.
After all those years gone by seeing John lennon get killed still setup me it's sad beyond sad
Jerk of all jerks. (PMcC, 1980)
Harrison and Lennon. Why them? Don't get wrong. I'm not insinuating, that anyone should have taken their place. But what a lose.
Does anyone have links to Chapman's songs he wrote and recorded like that were in the film?
Evil kills good. Happens all the time.
In this case, evil killed evil.
@@bballkid7409 Agreed
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poor kid was obviously abused and mentally traumatized to carry out this assasination of John Lennon. Gerorge Harrison was attempted later on. what a burden he must feel if he feels at all
Why did you hashtag this as a short? It isn't.
We really did lose a great mind and a great artist when Lennon past
Hawaii is a hotbed of what I call Kooky Kristians. People think of Hawaii as a liberal place and it is, but it's also got quite a few people who'd be speaking in tongues and handling rattlesnakes if Hawaii had rattlesnakes. There are all these nutzy little cults, some affiliated with Christianity, that are great places to train and indoctrinate assassins. I read a book years ago saying exactly what my theory is: That Lennon had insulted Right-Wing Christianity and was also going to do less music and more political action and thus the Kooky Kristians wanted him killed.
How much drugs did you take while writing this comment
Could be he hated John Lennon for what he had said or he idolized John Lennon and don't want him to regress.
All I can say ,in this spher of mortal life,we can't chose how we died or past away,just because life and death is packaged, every one must past nobody's failed,its part of our existence ,John death,we can consider as phenomenal,I can't blame champman or his gun,I mean everything or event have purpose, phenomenal
Lame and weak. You need to learn the 10 Commandments and the Golden Rule. Wisdom from thousands of years ago.
Getting word out on book that every jr. high school student I knew had to read. I didn't get it.
I believe that.
Thank you for your service Mark
I'm glad Chapman didn't deserve to get away with murdering Lennon
Senseless killing
There are precious few sensible ones. I’d argue that not even death penalty executions are sensible or justifiable murders. I think John Lennon would be with me on that one.
I have NEVER read "A Catcher in the Rye" and I NEVER WILL...
While I totally detest what Chapman did, I know this sounds strange but the only comfort I can find, I love John Lennon The Beatles my all-time favorite,I don't ever want Chapman to get out but I do truly believe he was mentally ill. I feel that the Lord forgives me and I have to forgive and it is hard.
154,000 views and only 1.4 thousand likes? I feel like people should appreciate the stuff they’re watching a little bit more.
Who bothers with “likes”? They are meaningless, especially since down votes are no longer recorded. I never up-vote a video regardless of how good it is. It’s more about RUclips (and Google) tracking and creating a profile of you as a user than anything having to do with recognition of worthy content.
I wonder about this too,but I'm old and tired of being quiet, (I think)😮
The FBI followed John Lennon for several years.
Yes, at Nixon's behest. J Edgar Hoover never should have headed the FBI. Sad part of the American story.
FBI and CIA especially
he is so fxxxxx stupid about the fxxxxxx book+ promote? i dont plan on reading any part of it.
The Lennon murder and the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan were connected....By Reagan's own vice-president,.......and does anyone remember who that was???????
@@charlesdowns1691 don't blame the book. It happens to be classic literature
Wonder if he regrets it yet?
All these killers with a David middle name. John David Stutts, the man who killed BuckWheat.
Ooooo! Spooky! 🙄
john trusted he's fans too much