Also people going "the lore!!!" - I know - clearly arcane is telling a slightly different story anyway and I'm keen to see it - bitter exes? classic ♡ - fools who don't realise things until it's too late? classic ♡ - this video was made for fun please calm down
Intersting that... I think I can't fully appreciate this character, only because I'm attracted to girls. I'm absolutely stunned by each face expression from Vi, Cait and by their graceful unique moves. Definetely not the same experience with Jayce, Victor or Heimeringer 😂😂
@@Andriy_Moskalenko you don't have to be attracted to a character to appreciate them for who they are... of course this is coming from a bi person who has heart eyes for half the people in this show, but I digress
@@Andriy_Moskalenko thanks for proving how straight you are, here is your straightest man on earth medal, this way you can show all people on earth you are straight without making weird explanations that makes no sense
@@unnecessarilyhonest6051 @ijornhribrudkrvir I actually agree with you. Affection by a character doesn't have to rely on sexual prefs and stuff. My comment is kinda delusional or at least not accurate.
I was really skeptical of him at first but the looks, the accent, his personality and then his backstory all won me over. I didn’t expect to like him the most out of the duo.
@@thesauce1682 “Wait a minute. This isn’t my bedroom!” Viktor ready for the totally believable lie that he got lost, while sneaking late in the evening, to his personal quarters with his “best friend.” Yea
I literally rewatched EVERY scene Viktor has in like 6 times because holy hell I never expected him to be this cute and sassy. Arcane is truly a gift from above 😭
@@maphytaffy Sorry for you but as far as Jayce and Vicktor's relationship is concerned they have never been in love with each other and have never been in a relationship either in act 1 or act 2. This is clearly confirmed in episode 5 where Your "dear Jace" has sex with Mel the counselor. Yes, you read that right! Jace is going to have sex with Mel! So he's attracted to women! And besides he's in love with Mel.
3:20 I love how the two of them have completely different cover stories. Jayce is pleading his case while Viktor is down there rambling on to himself about “wAiT a MiNuTe, tHiS IsN’t My BeDrOoM.” XD
for some reason, about people who need, for example, lung transplantation, do not write that they are destroying themselves. And about modern prostheses of hands and feet or implants. Victor makes his body hardy and saves his life, and I don't understand why almost no one thinks about it.
@@academyminor Probably talking about when Viktor starts going metal crazy and replaces other parts of his body that don't need fixing, like giving himself a lobotomy. Honestly it's more of the breaking relationships aspect that I'm sadly anticipating, with Jayce, Heimerdinger.... uhhh Viktor doesn't really interact act much with other does he I think 90% of his dialogue is directed at Jayce
This makes me want to dive deeper into Viktor's mouth, I mean story. What made him emotionless? It cant be just something else. But it could be love, unreturned but tender and true love.
@@jannpial256 hun, you could have edited the comment why did you have to keep the ‘mouth’ part 😂😂😂 I’ve been laughing at this comment for a full 10 minutes because of that 😂😂 P.s these are definitely going to be spoilers (since it talks about his lore) but Viktor was obsessed with something called the ‘Glorious evolution’ essentially Viktor thought that human error was a weakness, since that consistent error in humans could mean death. On the other hand, machinery never makes errors (according to him) so the glorious evolution was about converting humans into robots. However, when Victor changed his body to become robotic, he didn’t realise that his human advantage of logic and emotion would actually be taken away from him. In my opinion, Viktor is a much better parallel to Jayce. Jayce is impulsive, emotional and is easily influenced by his ego. There was a part of Viktor’ lore that talked about him, trying to steal hextech from Jayce’s lab, to help his fellow Zauns folk who were suffering from a degenerative disease (if I remember it correctly) and the hex tech would be the only thing capable of defeating the disease. Obviously, Jayce being a piece of shit, decided that he would counter Viktor, defeating him, and was hailed as a ‘hero’ from there on, Viktor made it his mission to free humans of their weak flesh, and to transgress their weaknesses. Honestly, he’s just a misunderstood nerd that needs a hug.
@@jannpial256 no man read lore he doesnt love jayce he just wants to evolve and is convinced that emotion is obselite and he doesn't need it. He isn't gay Lore is key.
@@b.bird. Sorry for you but as far as Jayce and Vicktor's relationship is concerned they have never been in love with each other and have never been in a relationship either in act 1 or act 2. This is clearly confirmed in episode 5 where Your "dear Jace" has sex with Mel the counselor. Yes, you read that right! Jace is going to have sex with Mel! So he's attracted to women! And besides he's in love with Mel.
Them "dying" (my coping theory is they were trapped in the hex crystal 🥲) in eachothers arms like that, one of the gayest things in this show, and we got Cait and vi banging this season
The fact that the Hextech became more important to Viktor than to Jayce. I felt as if Viktor was the real scientist behind the comprehension of the Hexgems while Jayce is more like the engineer & blacksmith/craftman.
It's because they have different end goals. Viktor sees hextech as a way to make the world better (and later on as a way to save himself/ secure his legacy), while Jayce sees hextech as a puzzle to solve and a tool for "progress", whatever that means
From what I understand, viktor what's to make life better for everyone and especially those in need and Jayce just wants progress and recognition in the end.
@@brook_angel jayce wants the same thing The difference is how they use their time. Jayce has more time to pursue his goals than Viktor and in the end he killed an innocent woman over time
@@ntbored7727 jayce practically revels in the spotlight and dismisses Viktor's concerns for accessibility. He becomes a politician under Mel's thumb pushing away Viktor and his ideas and concerns. He wasn't like that from the beginning tho. Also Viktor didn't really Sky. It was more of a workplace accident if anything. Jayce however shot a child while raiding a factory... So there's that.
Mind could be changed. Ships will sail. Mel will betray Jayce. Viktor will catch Jayce. Jayce will break Viktor's heart. To suppress the heartache, Viktor will decide to become entirely machine. They will end up badly, but for GLORIOUS EVOLUTION, I see Jayce will come to realize he loves Viktor all along.
@@jannpial256 I doubt this will actually happen in Arcane due to lore saying they were just friends who then become enemies, buy hey it's a ship, you can do whatever you want with it lol. Still, the change from Viktor changing because he wants to, to Viktor changing because if he doesn't (spoilers ahead) he will die is... I dunno. We'll see how Arcane plays it out.
@@fury8940 yeah I doubt that too but who knows. Ive got few hints about it though, but im very open if this will not happen, still shipping them anyhow
3:19 "Wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom?" Why tf did you IMMEDIATELY think of the bedroom when you're sneaking into Heimer's lab with another man, Viktor?
Don't you love it when Jayce says to Viktor, " *Our* Hextech dream" And then in the next act they made this whole ass scene of Jayce making out with Mel while Viktor lands himself in the hospital, stressed out about the Hextech not doing/responding to something he had hoped. I know Jayce does care about Viktor, it's just the scene kinda does portray Jayce getting carried away being councilor as a new position. He's the front face of Piltover's progress day and they didn't even credit Viktor.
Jayce does, the issue is Viktor doesn't have a house so he can't really wield much power. And it was Jayce who started the whole Hex Tech research project. Plus, Viktor clearly doesn't want the spot light based on how scared he was of having to give a speech.
@@shadowofhawk55 Correct. Seems like Viktor's the lesser-known scientist of Hextech, living in shadow. But he should also be the front face of progress day, even if he doesn't want to come out and give speeches or make public appearances. Everyone talks about Jayce, not Viktor. To me I think he's a brilliant scientist, he came up with the idea to crank the Hextech, and I'm pretty sure he contributed a whole lot in making it work. Jayce might've started this dream, but Viktor helped it become a success.
@@rosethz2474 I am not denying that at all. They are most certainly equal partners. That said, the deck is stacked for Jayce to be the face of Hextech. And I imagine Viktor wouldn't care as long as History remembers both of them, which knowing Jayce (from Arcane, no clue what he's like in LoL) he would absolutely make sure happens.
Poor Viktor.... He is only trying to make people's life better since he better than anyone knows what the limitations of the human body can do to someone. He is not evil just misunderstood
I love that Viktor was using his cane to bar the door. such a subtle way to reiterate how he was staking everything on this. his stability, his comfort, his potential, everything. on day one.
"Wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom" as if it would've been easily explained for them to be sneaking into Viktors bedroom in the middle of the night 😏
I'm here to seek comfort after season 2 episode 9... When I saw 1:53 I realised I have to watch Arcane from the beginning again because the creators probably hid a lot of things there
All these people complaining about why two men can't be just friends anymore can't even name 5 canon male romantic couples in mainstream media smh. Jayce and Viktor are now destined to be together in every timeline and universe. That kind of arc is usually attributed to epic romantic couples.
THANK YOU PLEASE WHY ARE PEOPLE SO PISSED "ugh everything is gay now" well sorry for finally getting actual good representation???? please, straight ppl have gotten EVERYTHING for millenia and now us suddenly being seen as human beyond queerness is wrong apparently
the fact that those people only complain when they are both men but if Viktor/Jayce was a woman they'd be like "oohhh so much chemistry, oh my god perfect couple 😳😭" Also, like... the problem isnt that men cant show emotions or love between each other without being called gay, the REAL problem is some men thinking that being called gay is bad... So insecure You spittin facts btw
All down with shippings and headcanons, but Arcane's head writer Christian Linke had already confirmed that their relationship is only brotherly, not romantic.
[Spoiler:] I love Viktor´s playfulness so much! When he kept Jayce from jumping to death the first thing he does is teasing him about being egotistical which makes Jayce angry, but also snaps him right out of his fatalistic despair. Later in the last episode after Jayce repays the favor he just dwells in a bit of self-pity going on about the past when everything used to make sense. And here it is Viktor again who tries to tease him out of his gloomy mood when Jayce remembers an incident of himself messing up and feeling embarrassed to which Viktor only replies: "At least you didn´t throw up." I admire how he is able to be funny just moments after feeling such despair that he almost took his own life. And he is not even doing it to deflect from his feelings, but only to lighten up Jayce´s mood.
I mean, pissing someone off, while not the *best* way to stop someone going over the edge (literally in this case), saying something shocking or otherwise out of left field is a decent technique to snap someone out of a depressive mood. Just kind of short circuits the brain a bit, distracting them long enough to calm down a bit. It's actually a technique that people are taught to do. So...yay for Viktor's unconventional mental health skills?
Me before Arcane: I will never simp. (Spoilers below. I thought everyone already knew this, sorry ;-;) Me now, knowing that Viktor becomes a cyborg who turns people into machines: _as he should. as he ABSOLUTELY should. flawless king._
@@rumpalug in OP’s defense this is well known and the show is made knowing most will know some surface-level lol lore, either before going into it or from research after watching arcane to figure out who is which champion etc. it won’t impact your viewing experience so don’t worry much abt it
In the show, VI and Jinx kind of took the spotlight, but I absolutely love the way they shaped Viktor - ambitious, enthusiast but also depressingly weak, no wonder his future prospects are machine oriented - flesh grows weak, robotics don't
If you read the lore, viktor and jayce were never friends but more like a 2 mad scientists with different ways of doing things are helping each other for their own gain and their inventions.
By the LoL lore, Jayce is also supose to be a white man with blue eyes and working for the Giopara family, the patreons who give him the crystals in first place. But Arcane is not going to follow the LoL lore. I love that there's not 'actual' lore since every game (LoL, LoR, Wild Rifth, etc) are taking different aproachs to the characters. Is like a "chose your own history, enjoy the multiverse" 😎
@@ian_cris I think every game has is own lore. Yeah, they are inspired in the same universe, but sometime there's contradictions in the comics/short storys of LoL and the cards in LoR. LoR's lore is good as compliment and expansion of the universe, but didn't replace the actual lore of LoL.
@@estrellaescobar5723 The lore of LoR is the most recent and expanded in many ways, it makes sense Arcane takes a lot of this game to tell the rest, also very presumably Arcane is the new canon, either because of its popularity in addition to how much Riot is connecting the plots and character relationships, which is probably Riot's new direction in lore. It wouldn't be strange for LoL to upgrade his lore to suit Arcane
2021 and people still think that you need to have a "valid reason" to ship lmao. You really think I care if Jayce sees Viktor as a brother/partner, so what, it's fiction, it doesn't affect your life.
I just finished the show and the first scene in this video punched me in the gut. Victor looks so healthy, his limp is barely even noticeable. His body failed him so quickly
okay but the absolute tragedy of viktor, our baby, our beloved, our spicy little pepperoni, our boy, being gay and desperately in love with a straight man ?? and viktor is slowly dying and they both know it, and he's struggling to complete his life's work with jayce but he can see jayce drifting away from him, being stained by flawed piltovan morals and logic ??? and the dual pain of heartbreak and jayce's betrayal to their original idea of improving life and helping the undercity ???????????? *cries*
If they did ever make a scene where they both confessed their love or smth, i would imagine Viktor would say some cheesy shit like "I've never been able to walk normally, but you *literally* made me fly Jayce"
I'm glad that this was the first video of Arcane I watched 3 years ago. It convinced me not to miss out on such an amazing journey. JayVik you'll always be famous 😭
Listen, they were literally floating. They had created MAGIC, and all they could do is stare and giggle at each other. I am ill. I need to see them slowly falling in love during the timeskip between eps 3 and 4, before their lowkey break up era and then reconilliation era during eps 8 and 9 and then their full blown divorce era before FINALLY tying the knot and going on an intergalactic honeymoon
I just think it’s a bit odd how they made Jayce say “he’s like a brother to me.” They’ve clearly seen all the jayvik shippers (which have existed long before arcane was a thing, by the way) If they really didn’t want to make them an actual mlm couple, they could’ve still gone through with the show with Jayce having never said that line. Like damn, Vik got brotherzoned so hard. LoL already has two wlw couples (Diana/Leona and Caitlyn/Vi), meanwhile a whole ass Twisted Fate and Graves exists and they were going to be husbands but that idea was shut down. Why is Riot so allergic to mlm couples, come on. First TF and Graves, now Jayvik..
I honestly think this show has been in production so long they had no idea about jayvik being a thing since it wasn't really 'big' before this at all... but they also seem to not know any other word to describe two men who are close to each other lmao they brotherzone m/m ships a lot
@@cokecan6169 I already mentioned in my comment that Diana/Leona are another wlw ship, they were censored before, until Riot finally made them canon recently. Plus, Neeko is also a confirmed lesbian character. Not to mention that not every relationship is sexual?? Funny how you say “why does everything have to be sexual” when a whole ass straight sex scene is playing while Viktor is struggling to live lmao, but go off I guess. “It’s annoying when people ship any two male characters resembling friendship.” Okay but you could say the same about literally anything, people do the exact same thing with female and male characters. Literally look at Jayce and Caitlyn, they have a big age difference and an almost sibling dynamic, but people still ship them because according to them, “they are obviously flirting” and “you don’t look at a sibling like that.” See, here’s the thing, I don’t mind Jayce and Viktor not being canon, but what I do mind is the fact that they instantly shut down the shippers by saying they have a “brotherly” relationship. Like man, now it just feels weird. They didn’t even hit us with the “and historians said they were good friends”, Viktor just immediately got brotherzoned lmaoooo.
@@cokecan6169 I agree to an extent but that’s just people being afraid of being perceived as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, which in turn is an unwitting display of their underlying homophobic tendencies. (before you say anything about homophobia, reminder that gay people can be homophobic too) As the LGBTQ+ community begins to grow more accepted in our society, those fears will go away. It’s also a result of people being insecure of their sexualities, homophobes exist and the fear of judgement is what causes those problems. So, not to be redundant but that’s why I believe that things will change as people become more accepting. Normalizing those types of relationships will improve the state of society for most people. I hope you realize that the LGBTQ+ community needs those, as you call them, “cringe” relationships, they’ve had literally nothing which is why this is the most basic thing that can be done for them. A lot of people create gay characters just for the clout and money, it’s unfortunate and disgusting that they’re using a minority for their own gain, but it at the very least helps us begin the process of normalizing those relationships. Anyways, as much of an interesting conversation this was, I don’t like making long RUclips threads so this will be my last reply. Thank you good day.
I've been playing LoL for 8 years, and I never realized Viktor has an accent lmao. In my defense, I'm Eastern-European, so Russian accents just sound like normal English to me.
yes I will keep making these no I don't care what the show wants to tell me I said VIKTOR being in love for a reason :)
Also people going "the lore!!!"
- I know
- clearly arcane is telling a slightly different story anyway and I'm keen to see it
- bitter exes? classic ♡
- fools who don't realise things until it's too late? classic ♡
- this video was made for fun please calm down
@@vi_m_ You do you girl ( or guy)!
We know Jayce is just in denial. “Brother” my @ss!
Gayyyyyyyy
Yes please! don't listen to haters
I'm falling flat on my ass for this man and his spicy accent
Intersting that... I think I can't fully appreciate this character, only because I'm attracted to girls. I'm absolutely stunned by each face expression from Vi, Cait and by their graceful unique moves. Definetely not the same experience with Jayce, Victor or Heimeringer 😂😂
Lmao
@@Andriy_Moskalenko you don't have to be attracted to a character to appreciate them for who they are... of course this is coming from a bi person who has heart eyes for half the people in this show, but I digress
@@Andriy_Moskalenko thanks for proving how straight you are, here is your straightest man on earth medal, this way you can show all people on earth you are straight without making weird explanations that makes no sense
@@unnecessarilyhonest6051 @ijornhribrudkrvir I actually agree with you. Affection by a character doesn't have to rely on sexual prefs and stuff. My comment is kinda delusional or at least not accurate.
He had me at “Actually yes, but only because you signed your notes. Every page, I might add. Eeh, a little egotistical, don’t you think?”
His voice and face expression is soooo on point!
I was really skeptical of him at first but the looks, the accent, his personality and then his backstory all won me over. I didn’t expect to like him the most out of the duo.
And his face when Jayce asked if he knew what he was doing lol
why people ship these two, the only thing i see between them is two scientist researching together and is like brother.
@@thesauce1682 “Wait a minute. This isn’t my bedroom!”
Viktor ready for the totally believable lie that he got lost, while sneaking late in the evening, to his personal quarters with his “best friend.” Yea
I love the fact that Jayce is the "pretty boy" but Viktor is the one with viewers falling for him left and right
Gotta agree because jayce belongs medarda.. you don't want your head cut off
Right they really gave us fanservice with jayce but we all fell for viktor 😂 he has a bigger personality
Dude he’s adorable and his va slayed this one just *chef’s kiss*
i mean... when looking at Vikktor he's a fucking charm! 🤣
Nothing is hotter then a man that's desperate for his life dream. And the accent Viktor is my dream man
I literally rewatched EVERY scene Viktor has in like 6 times because holy hell I never expected him to be this cute and sassy. Arcane is truly a gift from above 😭
I mained him for like 6 years and tbh he seems cute and sassy if u read all his stories and tbh even in game i feel like he is
I still main him, I think I made it sound like I dont anymore
This makes me want to main him (I main Draven)
@@maphytaffy Sorry for you but as far as Jayce and Vicktor's relationship is concerned they have never been in love with each other and have never been in a relationship either in act 1 or act 2.
This is clearly confirmed in episode 5 where Your "dear Jace" has sex with Mel the counselor. Yes, you read that right! Jace is going to have sex with Mel! So he's attracted to women! And besides he's in love with Mel.
@@luciferien5604 Ur talking to me ? I said I main Viktor and I don't even ship him and jayce... and besides, I don't even like jayce
"wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom” - BEST LINE
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Jayce may or may not be attracted to men but Victor? 100%
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KJscakcjsdch the implications of him saying that 😭
why is viktor so pretty
Im such a simp for him it’s actually embarrassing
Because hes a sweetheart i guess
His moles, his eyes, his everything 😭 i love him sm
is it possible to ironically be pretty? lmao
Because multiple people worked on each character crafting them to make them appealing in different ways. It’s character design
3:20 I love how the two of them have completely different cover stories. Jayce is pleading his case while Viktor is down there rambling on to himself about “wAiT a MiNuTe, tHiS IsN’t My BeDrOoM.” XD
I didn't trust him at first, but that part whispered in my ear that he'd be my favorite character
I love that the first lie he came up with was that he was sneaking a boy into his room
Oh my gosh, they were roommates!
yes yes they were@@fumarc4501
Viktor:be gay do crime
It will kill me inside to see Viktor destroy himself in the future. The scenes with the Hextech were agonizing enough. I just want my boy to stay soft
Glorious evolution
Reject flesh. Embrace the glorious evolution.
Too bad. He's a bad guy and always will be.
for some reason, about people who need, for example, lung transplantation, do not write that they are destroying themselves. And about modern prostheses of hands and feet or implants. Victor makes his body hardy and saves his life, and I don't understand why almost no one thinks about it.
@@academyminor Probably talking about when Viktor starts going metal crazy and replaces other parts of his body that don't need fixing, like giving himself a lobotomy. Honestly it's more of the breaking relationships aspect that I'm sadly anticipating, with Jayce, Heimerdinger.... uhhh Viktor doesn't really interact act much with other does he I think 90% of his dialogue is directed at Jayce
I love the the way they talked eachother out of suicide without actually saying the generic "don't die, how would your family feel?".
Lmao that's a good one
Honestly it sounds so much better 😭 they never cared about how I felt so whatever. They reminded each other they still had a reason keep going.
No cuz the “how wud ur family feel” actually works for me 😭
These two are like “dont die we can do so much cool bromance stuff together”
3:46 THE ZOOM- I CAN'T. His expression is so good and real
i love the attention to details and character expressions in this show
HIS FACE IS SO CUTE STOP
The way he handles stress compared to Jayce is also hilarious.
"They're almost through. No pressure."🤷🏻♂️
"THAT SOUNDS LIKE PRESSURE!" 😫😣😖😭
I didn’t notice that until now, and now I’m crying at how cute the facial expression was. 😂
HE'S SO CUTE OMFG
Crazy to think that in the future Jayce will be an egotistical "superhero" and Viktor will be an emotionless machine.
Thats so saad 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Breaks my heart because human Viktor was so handsome and sweet 🥺
This makes me want to dive deeper into Viktor's mouth, I mean story. What made him emotionless? It cant be just something else. But it could be love, unreturned but tender and true love.
@@jannpial256 hun, you could have edited the comment why did you have to keep the ‘mouth’ part 😂😂😂 I’ve been laughing at this comment for a full 10 minutes because of that 😂😂
P.s these are definitely going to be spoilers (since it talks about his lore) but Viktor was obsessed with something called the ‘Glorious evolution’ essentially Viktor thought that human error was a weakness, since that consistent error in humans could mean death. On the other hand, machinery never makes errors (according to him) so the glorious evolution was about converting humans into robots. However, when Victor changed his body to become robotic, he didn’t realise that his human advantage of logic and emotion would actually be taken away from him.
In my opinion, Viktor is a much better parallel to Jayce. Jayce is impulsive, emotional and is easily influenced by his ego. There was a part of Viktor’ lore that talked about him, trying to steal hextech from Jayce’s lab, to help his fellow Zauns folk who were suffering from a degenerative disease (if I remember it correctly) and the hex tech would be the only thing capable of defeating the disease. Obviously, Jayce being a piece of shit, decided that he would counter Viktor, defeating him, and was hailed as a ‘hero’ from there on, Viktor made it his mission to free humans of their weak flesh, and to transgress their weaknesses. Honestly, he’s just a misunderstood nerd that needs a hug.
@@jannpial256 no man read lore he doesnt love jayce he just wants to evolve and is convinced that emotion is obselite and he doesn't need it. He isn't gay Lore is key.
Never forget: is canon that the first lie that came to Viktor's mind was saying that he was sneaking a boy into his bedroom.
They only got caught lying cuz they didn't brought the lube.
Man really had a gay panic
@@b.bird. Sorry for you but as far as Jayce and Vicktor's relationship is concerned they have never been in love with each other and have never been in a relationship either in act 1 or act 2.
This is clearly confirmed in episode 5 where Your "dear Jace" has sex with Mel the counselor. Yes, you read that right! Jace is going to have sex with Mel! So he's attracted to women! And besides he's in love with Mel.
@@luciferien5604 jayce is certainly not gay , not sure about viktor but it seems he only cares about work so
@@AliceShinya ruclips.net/video/uln2jjg66rs/видео.html
I love Viktors accent
Edit:damn nearly 10k likes nice to know people agree with me
its just sova from valorant
@@lachiemunro7 whats wrong with sova from valorant
Addicting even
i want viktor to trasform wear the hextech staff
@@beeligoesbuzz shak dart
I lost it at “Be gay do crime” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
Sigma male grindset
Be a man
@@matthewmason7792 I always laugh when I see those words
Snufkin? HADGHSHF
No. It actually has some reference in history when in XXth century in midwar era gays were not shown in Hollywood films unless they were villains.
Here years later to confirm that they are canonically soulmates, Jayvik nation wins
we WINNNN
Them "dying" (my coping theory is they were trapped in the hex crystal 🥲) in eachothers arms like that, one of the gayest things in this show, and we got Cait and vi banging this season
FIRST VOLTRON AND NOW THIS. WE DID IT BABES
Whether your camp romantic or platonic soul mates, confirmed multiverse means we are all correct and ALL OUTCOMES OF THEIR LOVE IS CANON
@@MsSarahJosephineLETS GO HOES WE WONNN
The fact that the Hextech became more important to Viktor than to Jayce. I felt as if Viktor was the real scientist behind the comprehension of the Hexgems while Jayce is more like the engineer & blacksmith/craftman.
It's because they have different end goals. Viktor sees hextech as a way to make the world better (and later on as a way to save himself/ secure his legacy), while Jayce sees hextech as a puzzle to solve and a tool for "progress", whatever that means
Only one of them was running out of time.
From what I understand, viktor what's to make life better for everyone and especially those in need and Jayce just wants progress and recognition in the end.
@@brook_angel jayce wants the same thing
The difference is how they use their time. Jayce has more time to pursue his goals than Viktor and in the end he killed an innocent woman over time
@@ntbored7727 jayce practically revels in the spotlight and dismisses Viktor's concerns for accessibility. He becomes a politician under Mel's thumb pushing away Viktor and his ideas and concerns. He wasn't like that from the beginning tho.
Also Viktor didn't really Sky. It was more of a workplace accident if anything.
Jayce however shot a child while raiding a factory... So there's that.
I love how everyone here is willing to stay even tho they know how their relationship would end
we like to suffer
I’ve been hurt before, I’m ready to do it again.
@@acehealer4212 same for vi/jinx
We stay for the moments that were created and thus, even more precious Ú_Ù
@@nickmotion n o
Bruh when Jayce said Viktor was like a brother to him later I was like: “F for the shippers”
We never know 🤣🤣
Mind could be changed. Ships will sail. Mel will betray Jayce. Viktor will catch Jayce. Jayce will break Viktor's heart. To suppress the heartache, Viktor will decide to become entirely machine. They will end up badly, but for GLORIOUS EVOLUTION, I see Jayce will come to realize he loves Viktor all along.
We will always have headcanon
@@jannpial256 I doubt this will actually happen in Arcane due to lore saying they were just friends who then become enemies, buy hey it's a ship, you can do whatever you want with it lol. Still, the change from Viktor changing because he wants to, to Viktor changing because if he doesn't (spoilers ahead) he will die is... I dunno. We'll see how Arcane plays it out.
@@fury8940 yeah I doubt that too but who knows. Ive got few hints about it though, but im very open if this will not happen, still shipping them anyhow
Viktor was my favorite character basically as soon as he set foot on screen
Same. I would lay down my life for him
REAL I was sold the moment he started talking. a twink with an accent?? my dream man ??????
*Sassy, sardonic man exists*
Me: mine now
SAMEE
"if u wanna change the world dont ask for permissione"
THE GLORIOUSE EVOLUTIONE FORESHADOWING
FOR THE MACHINE IS IMMORTAL
@@tahmkench118 YES OF COURSE
Metal is perfection
Fellas, is it gay to ascend to a higher plane of existance alongside your best friend?
peak bromance, DEFINITELY bros haha, NEVER queer amiright fellas
omg they were multiverse bros
fr its so gay, which makes it better
no it's not gay. It's SUPER gay.
apparently so according to these nuts
this is gonna make the divorce hurt even more >:(
*Jayce journal*
"Dear journal; I have a new partner, Viktor"
• I don't know his last name
• Ask him his last name
@@kamusta3446 its Von Doom
The shipper are fool, they are sailing toward rocks
@@tabinekoman it an honor to serve, let me sink with the ship
@@tabinekoman ill gladly die with the ship xd
3:19 "Wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom?" Why tf did you IMMEDIATELY think of the bedroom when you're sneaking into Heimer's lab with another man, Viktor?
oh god..
Because it's night time...?
@@tinago845 he was sneaking in Jayce into his "bedroom"
Wait a sec 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yanuwwuu stop so fucking cringe
Viktor is too pure for this world XD
I know!!!!!!!! 😭 😭
until he becomes a champion...
He need to be hextechize
@@antonioarredondo9680 I mean , not much different though, in arcane or as a champion, he is still crazy about invention and progress
HE DOES DRUGS????????????
Viktor’s reaction to ‘are you sure you know what you’re doing?’ IS SO DAMN CUTE????
Don't you love it when Jayce says to Viktor, " *Our* Hextech dream"
And then in the next act they made this whole ass scene of Jayce making out with Mel while Viktor lands himself in the hospital, stressed out about the Hextech not doing/responding to something he had hoped.
I know Jayce does care about Viktor, it's just the scene kinda does portray Jayce getting carried away being councilor as a new position. He's the front face of Piltover's progress day and they didn't even credit Viktor.
Jayce does, the issue is Viktor doesn't have a house so he can't really wield much power. And it was Jayce who started the whole Hex Tech research project. Plus, Viktor clearly doesn't want the spot light based on how scared he was of having to give a speech.
@@shadowofhawk55 Correct. Seems like Viktor's the lesser-known scientist of Hextech, living in shadow. But he should also be the front face of progress day, even if he doesn't want to come out and give speeches or make public appearances. Everyone talks about Jayce, not Viktor. To me I think he's a brilliant scientist, he came up with the idea to crank the Hextech, and I'm pretty sure he contributed a whole lot in making it work. Jayce might've started this dream, but Viktor helped it become a success.
@@rosethz2474 I am not denying that at all. They are most certainly equal partners. That said, the deck is stacked for Jayce to be the face of Hextech. And I imagine Viktor wouldn't care as long as History remembers both of them, which knowing Jayce (from Arcane, no clue what he's like in LoL) he would absolutely make sure happens.
I mean.. Jayce did attempted but Vikktor refused
Jayce always sought to impulse Vikktor in so many ways and he humbled to Jayce
Right? If it weren't for him, Jayce would be nothing but a dead body and a no-name gravestone. Viktor deserves respect.
3:47 a precious "I am not entirelly sure, but yes, It may blow up" Viktor expression.
HES SO- JAKAJWSLSUSKS
Ya know?
😬
There are two types of people in The arcane fandom
- Victor simps
- silco simps
That's me andmy friend from school in a nutshell
Why not both?
IM BOTH
Can’t believe you left out a good chunk of the cast, people are simping for every character 😂
what about Caitlyn simps ;-;
nobody:
Viktor: Wait what? It wasn't my bedroom? How could i even-
Poor Viktor.... He is only trying to make people's life better since he better than anyone knows what the limitations of the human body can do to someone. He is not evil just misunderstood
He is both evil and misunderstood
@@dillonkeller4477 he's not evil what do u mean. Everything he had done was for the sake of humanity, at least that's what he hoped.
He knew the limits of the human body yet failed to understand the advantages of it too.
Viktor was never evil in my opinion.
damb viktor gave jayce his rune bracelet twice..... the foreshadowing is insane
"Crank it"
"It's time to crank it"
The foreshadowing of Blitzcrank
Bruh i didn't even thought about that!
Hope to see blitzcrank in future series hes like adorable giant friend
@@hs5942 we will
I love that Viktor was using his cane to bar the door. such a subtle way to reiterate how he was staking everything on this. his stability, his comfort, his potential, everything. on day one.
"Wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom" as if it would've been easily explained for them to be sneaking into Viktors bedroom in the middle of the night 😏
I'm here to seek comfort after season 2 episode 9... When I saw 1:53 I realised I have to watch Arcane from the beginning again because the creators probably hid a lot of things there
Same! I'm about to watch it all over again and it will sure be a new experience. Knowing what we know now.
I'm a lesbian, but all these characters are incredibly attractive, and FOR WHAT!!!
NO SAME FR
I like girls plus Viktor
@@smaple6173 Literally same. Irl I like only women but a bunch of very specific and dear to me male fictional characters could hit it anytime.
Viktor is so full of conviction and hope during Act I. He’s expressive and witty. By the time Act II rolls around he’s a shell of a man in comparison.
True. He changed so much, not only physically 🥺
at 1:34, when Viktor says ''I simply believed in myself'' you can see a third eyeshine appear in his eyes and i think that is beautiful.
I love how Viktor just immediately whips out those keys planning to do a crime like its no big deal 😅
Undercity kid. He probably didn't even need the keys to get into the lab.
This aged like wine
Their eventual separation in the future is gonna hurt lol
yeah Victor becoming a villan is sad
@@mistercat5300 not really a villain
@@mistercat5300 it’s more of a vigilante vibe for me.
I falling in love whit someone can brake my heart?
So, have you watched season 2 already? 🥲
RUclips CANNOT be recommending me this video now of all times 😭
All these people complaining about why two men can't be just friends anymore can't even name 5 canon male romantic couples in mainstream media smh. Jayce and Viktor are now destined to be together in every timeline and universe. That kind of arc is usually attributed to epic romantic couples.
i love you
THANK YOU PLEASE WHY ARE PEOPLE SO PISSED "ugh everything is gay now" well sorry for finally getting actual good representation???? please, straight ppl have gotten EVERYTHING for millenia and now us suddenly being seen as human beyond queerness is wrong apparently
PREACH LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK ❤❤❤
the fact that those people only complain when they are both men but if Viktor/Jayce was a woman they'd be like "oohhh so much chemistry, oh my god perfect couple 😳😭" Also, like... the problem isnt that men cant show emotions or love between each other without being called gay, the REAL problem is some men thinking that being called gay is bad... So insecure
You spittin facts btw
All down with shippings and headcanons, but Arcane's head writer Christian Linke had already confirmed that their relationship is only brotherly, not romantic.
my fyp showing me this after watching season 2 act 3 is kinda fucked up and wholesome at the same time *cries in jayvik final scene*
no seriously why would they do that to us 💔
I never thought I'd be so invested in Viktor because of his voice, and I don't even play the guy in LoL.
[Spoiler:] I love Viktor´s playfulness so much! When he kept Jayce from jumping to death the first thing he does is teasing him about being egotistical which makes Jayce angry, but also snaps him right out of his fatalistic despair. Later in the last episode after Jayce repays the favor he just dwells in a bit of self-pity going on about the past when everything used to make sense. And here it is Viktor again who tries to tease him out of his gloomy mood when Jayce remembers an incident of himself messing up and feeling embarrassed to which Viktor only replies: "At least you didn´t throw up." I admire how he is able to be funny just moments after feeling such despair that he almost took his own life. And he is not even doing it to deflect from his feelings, but only to lighten up Jayce´s mood.
I mean, pissing someone off, while not the *best* way to stop someone going over the edge (literally in this case), saying something shocking or otherwise out of left field is a decent technique to snap someone out of a depressive mood. Just kind of short circuits the brain a bit, distracting them long enough to calm down a bit.
It's actually a technique that people are taught to do.
So...yay for Viktor's unconventional mental health skills?
Me before Arcane: I will never simp.
(Spoilers below. I thought everyone already knew this, sorry ;-;)
Me now, knowing that Viktor becomes a cyborg who turns people into machines: _as he should. as he ABSOLUTELY should. flawless king._
"flawless king" hajsdha I CAN'T
Spoilers but i dont even care, im looking forward to this :0
@@rumpalug in OP’s defense this is well known and the show is made knowing most will know some surface-level lol lore, either before going into it or from research after watching arcane to figure out who is which champion etc. it won’t impact your viewing experience so don’t worry much abt it
Error be like: You dropped this King 👑
@@ouchiegiverjr 💀💀💀 lmao that's exactly what I'm doing
That scene of them hovering together in Heimerdinger’a lab is just… woo! Beautiful! Life-changing!
kinda ironic of heimerdinger to despise magic while he himself is a creature of magic..
He didnt exaclty despise magic he just dont want people messing with it cause is really dangerous as the rune war done a lot of damage to the world
Well Yordoles are similar to Ionian they reach harmony with magic so they know how to used it without draging other people.
he dont despise it, he fears how easily it corrupts all species when feeling its power
In the show, VI and Jinx kind of took the spotlight, but I absolutely love the way they shaped Viktor - ambitious, enthusiast but also depressingly weak, no wonder his future prospects are machine oriented - flesh grows weak, robotics don't
no liver, replaced by tech, no heart, replaced by tech, no red cells, replaced by tech, no brain, replaced by tech. No soul, replaced by tech.
Unless you throw sand at it
BROOO BRO, 1:08 he says that Jayce signs his all his notes which means he read through ALL of his notes RAGGHHAH IM GOING BONKERS PLS SOMEONE HELP
I'M SCREECHING, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT-
now theyre literally cosmic soulmates
If you read the lore, viktor and jayce were never friends but more like a 2 mad scientists with different ways of doing things are helping each other for their own gain and their inventions.
Lore of League has bewn changed multiple times already, its gonna change again
By the LoL lore, Jayce is also supose to be a white man with blue eyes and working for the Giopara family, the patreons who give him the crystals in first place. But Arcane is not going to follow the LoL lore.
I love that there's not 'actual' lore since every game (LoL, LoR, Wild Rifth, etc) are taking different aproachs to the characters. Is like a "chose your own history, enjoy the multiverse" 😎
@@estrellaescobar5723 LoR is actually canon, and introduced many new characters from piltover and zaun
@@ian_cris I think every game has is own lore. Yeah, they are inspired in the same universe, but sometime there's contradictions in the comics/short storys of LoL and the cards in LoR. LoR's lore is good as compliment and expansion of the universe, but didn't replace the actual lore of LoL.
@@estrellaescobar5723 The lore of LoR is the most recent and expanded in many ways, it makes sense Arcane takes a lot of this game to tell the rest, also very presumably Arcane is the new canon, either because of its popularity in addition to how much Riot is connecting the plots and character relationships, which is probably Riot's new direction in lore. It wouldn't be strange for LoL to upgrade his lore to suit Arcane
Viktor made a gay joke for his cover story I love this man
I love that his first reaction to being caught is "wait a minute this isnt my bedroom to where I am bringing my boyfriend at night" I LOVE HIM aaa
2021 and people still think that you need to have a "valid reason" to ship lmao. You really think I care if Jayce sees Viktor as a brother/partner, so what, it's fiction, it doesn't affect your life.
Well said!
Fr they arent real people, people get so mad over works of fiction lmao
Yeah but the problem starts to arise when we're discussing lore and the ships are brought out as fact
@@spunkysamuel oh gee i wonder how garen x katarina came to be to the point riot wanted to make a movie out of it
@@juniemunie2931 Citation needed
“ Now, all I want is my partner back “
I just finished the show and the first scene in this video punched me in the gut. Victor looks so healthy, his limp is barely even noticeable. His body failed him so quickly
i feel so _normal_ watching this now
I miss their sweet and innocent era. I want my boys back.
Here after season 2… jayvik nation we really won
0:48 Sorry but all I can think of is:
“I saved your life”
“You didn’t save my life, you ruined my death! That’s what you did”
OMG BSD REFERENCE?! DAZAI AND VIKTOR ARE THE ONLY 2 MEN I WILL EVER LOVE
Jayvik is so real with the end
“When you’re going to change the world, don’t ask for permission.”
Such a great quote victor is best boi
Viktors impressions are always so strong. His accent is amazing
okay but the absolute tragedy of viktor, our baby, our beloved, our spicy little pepperoni, our boy, being gay and desperately in love with a straight man ?? and viktor is slowly dying and they both know it, and he's struggling to complete his life's work with jayce but he can see jayce drifting away from him, being stained by flawed piltovan morals and logic ??? and the dual pain of heartbreak and jayce's betrayal to their original idea of improving life and helping the undercity ???????????? *cries*
You realize bisexuality is a thing, right? You're going to be ruined by S2.
how are we feeling about this now chat
I'm destroyed.
Im restored.
I miss him
I miss him too :(
I’m crying so hard in all timelines in all possibilities 😭😭😭
If they did ever make a scene where they both confessed their love or smth, i would imagine Viktor would say some cheesy shit like "I've never been able to walk normally, but you *literally* made me fly Jayce"
I just now noticed in the scene Viktor is taking Jayce’s book, Heimerdinger is saying “Magic is far too dangerous in the wrong hands.”
Mel: _"this is my boyfriend Jayce, and this is his boyfriend Viktor."_
I'm glad that this was the first video of Arcane I watched 3 years ago. It convinced me not to miss out on such an amazing journey. JayVik you'll always be famous 😭
Here after season 2 act 3...i have no words...
When Viktor says "I don't know how to do that sir" to Heimer it sounds like the Indian guy from the vine "help me I am under da water oooh"
he single handedly became my favourite character, tugged at my heart strings too much ngl
Listen, they were literally floating. They had created MAGIC, and all they could do is stare and giggle at each other. I am ill. I need to see them slowly falling in love during the timeskip between eps 3 and 4, before their lowkey break up era and then reconilliation era during eps 8 and 9 and then their full blown divorce era before FINALLY tying the knot and going on an intergalactic honeymoon
"Wait a minute, this isn't my bedroom."
HAHAHAHHA I loved it🤣🤣💖
not me sobbing grotesquely at this because of the finale
2:08 viktor has the most beautiful side profile and no one can change my mind
I just think it’s a bit odd how they made Jayce say “he’s like a brother to me.” They’ve clearly seen all the jayvik shippers (which have existed long before arcane was a thing, by the way) If they really didn’t want to make them an actual mlm couple, they could’ve still gone through with the show with Jayce having never said that line. Like damn, Vik got brotherzoned so hard. LoL already has two wlw couples (Diana/Leona and Caitlyn/Vi), meanwhile a whole ass Twisted Fate and Graves exists and they were going to be husbands but that idea was shut down. Why is Riot so allergic to mlm couples, come on. First TF and Graves, now Jayvik..
I honestly think this show has been in production so long they had no idea about jayvik being a thing since it wasn't really 'big' before this at all... but they also seem to not know any other word to describe two men who are close to each other lmao they brotherzone m/m ships a lot
@@cokecan6169 ok name me one canon riot m/m ship vs canon m/m friendships
yeah that's what I thought
The fact that the sx scene overlayed with viktor dying, they knew what they were doing
@@cokecan6169 I already mentioned in my comment that Diana/Leona are another wlw ship, they were censored before, until Riot finally made them canon recently. Plus, Neeko is also a confirmed lesbian character. Not to mention that not every relationship is sexual?? Funny how you say “why does everything have to be sexual” when a whole ass straight sex scene is playing while Viktor is struggling to live lmao, but go off I guess.
“It’s annoying when people ship any two male characters resembling friendship.” Okay but you could say the same about literally anything, people do the exact same thing with female and male characters. Literally look at Jayce and Caitlyn, they have a big age difference and an almost sibling dynamic, but people still ship them because according to them, “they are obviously flirting” and “you don’t look at a sibling like that.”
See, here’s the thing, I don’t mind Jayce and Viktor not being canon, but what I do mind is the fact that they instantly shut down the shippers by saying they have a “brotherly” relationship. Like man, now it just feels weird. They didn’t even hit us with the “and historians said they were good friends”, Viktor just immediately got brotherzoned lmaoooo.
@@cokecan6169 I agree to an extent but that’s just people being afraid of being perceived as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, which in turn is an unwitting display of their underlying homophobic tendencies. (before you say anything about homophobia, reminder that gay people can be homophobic too) As the LGBTQ+ community begins to grow more accepted in our society, those fears will go away. It’s also a result of people being insecure of their sexualities, homophobes exist and the fear of judgement is what causes those problems. So, not to be redundant but that’s why I believe that things will change as people become more accepting. Normalizing those types of relationships will improve the state of society for most people. I hope you realize that the LGBTQ+ community needs those, as you call them, “cringe” relationships, they’ve had literally nothing which is why this is the most basic thing that can be done for them. A lot of people create gay characters just for the clout and money, it’s unfortunate and disgusting that they’re using a minority for their own gain, but it at the very least helps us begin the process of normalizing those relationships. Anyways, as much of an interesting conversation this was, I don’t like making long RUclips threads so this will be my last reply. Thank you good day.
"I don't even know your name" is such a romance movie saying. Like that specific line has never been said in any other context ever
Omg, the contrast between season 1 and 2 is immense.
SO immense. i can't believe arcane season 2 hasn't been nominated for "best way to ruin amazing storytelling" award.
YOU WERE ALWAYS CORRECT
It aged like wine after S2 act 3
"OUR hextech dream"
*communist music starts playing*
Coming back to this video makes me so fucking miserable- ugh I love them 😭😭😭
I have a bad obsession with viktor. And his voice. It’s bad. But like- OMFG IS HE PRETTY 😭😍
This hurts so much after the ending 😭😭
It hurts seeing this after S2.
this aged so well
I've been playing LoL for 8 years, and I never realized Viktor has an accent lmao.
In my defense, I'm Eastern-European, so Russian accents just sound like normal English to me.
I have never been this attached to a gay ship in my whole life
1:04 I'M IN LOVE WITH THE "eh, a little agotistical, don't you think?"
Guys I want them to be together so bad it’s not fair LMAO
3:14
IF YOUR LOOKING FOR YOUR BEDROOM, THAN WHAT’S JAYCE DOING WITH YOU???
Absolutely love this. Like that was the first cover up Viktor thought of.😂
It's killing me how that Viktor says " wait that wasn't the bedroom "😂😂 3:22
Viktor: "It's in heimerdinger's lab" *summons keys*
Jayce: *immediate panic*
ok but where the hell did the keys even come from
gotta love how viktor's first excuse was that he was sneaking a boy into his "room"
It hurts watching this after s2
watching this to cope with act 2💔
I could not have guessed this outcome.