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Great review! I've been thinking about getting a Sur Ron for a while, but just ordered a Talaria instead. Like you say, both are great bikes, but I think the gearbox and slightly larger size (since I'm 6' 2") will make the Talaria a little better for me. Just looking for something to putz around the yard and neighborhood on, and I'm super excited to see what all the fuss is about.
@ElationProductions Awesome, great to hear that! Make sure to grab yourself some riser bars or riser stem to open the cockpit up some. It will make a big difference. Enjoy.
@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks! Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Bike came in yesterday, and haven't had a chance to ride it a lot yet, but already feel those stock, low bars being a pain on my back.
@@umangatang Unfortunately no, I was looking at the Cake as its componentry is a bit better suited to swapping out but it still seems the larger e dirt bikes are the best fit solution for taller folks at this point. And I'm not looking for that true dirt bike solution, but rather the in between.
Hell yeah man, good job on the review. Talaria just sent me out another controller with updated software. Going to test it out in some gnarly conditions again and see if I still have that over heating problem. Been watching since before I had my channel and love the content.
Thanks again Tucker! It's really great to have an actual rider review these machines. Definitely going to keep it Ron over here, but the gearbox does seem desirable
@@ElectricCycleRider bikes and beards reviewed sur ron or its segway counterpart and given too much power the belts will slip especially when debris works its way in
Competition is nice, the surron used to be alone in its category but now they gotta do better in the updated 2023 version, so thats a plus for the consumers. I've always wanted a surron X but if the next version talaria is still better than the updated surron version, I'll go with talaria instead.
Sounds like larger or taller riders would benefit from the Talaria's scale and weight. What I'd like to know is how they each perform in slower conditions or flat paved or hard pack roads going to the dirt riding sites. How do they do in 25mph road driving conditions, that may be less exciting but part of a realistic experience? Tucker is such an amazing rider, it's like a video game watching his ride, and a bit hard for me to relate to, without seeing some paved road shots showing the bike ride by, straight.
Sweet review. Still watching, but wanted to say, the battery still rattles around. I am trying some shimming, but not having any luck yet. Another note is the chain is loose on your test model. These bikes get so quiet when the chain is adjusted properly. Oh and the weight is 138 lbs.
Hi Tucker Fox 40 front fork is the best you can find in the market That fork is very popular at mountain bike downhill segment 👍 Sharing my experience below DNM and RST forks , they don’t last long and user will encounter noise caused by free play after few months of use
Hey man, Just want to warn you about that rear shock. Im a MTB'er and the new 2021+ Fox Float X2's have an issue of blowing up (literally) I'd possibly "downgrade" to a 2020 or under if i could!
One thing I immediately notice is that it's going to be quite difficult to change the seat height on that frame, and it seems like many Sur Ron riders do that. I just finished lowering mine.
That gearbox sounds a great point. love my '21 Lbx- I ride it far more than my petrol bikes,- its so tough & convinient to get on & go! But its on belt Num 3 to date- 2 & 3 were generic belts- not Surron, over tightened num 2 slightly. Front master cyl & brake pivvots worn out after 1400 miles. Ace bikes though.
I don't think the gearbox is an advantage or disadvantage as we haven't seen the longevity reliability of the box. But if it's not reliable that's a massive disadvantage and will kill the sales
Hey Tucker, Ebikezilla offers the Talaria Sting with a Fast Ace fork, a DNM, or a Talaria Factory fork. Do you like any of these, or should I opt for the least expensive one, and discard it, to buy the Fox 40 fork and Fox F2 shock that you recommend?... or are there other forks and shocks that you'd also recommend, in a lower price range? I'm assuming that the shock is the most important upgrade, then the fork?... or are they important to both do at the same time. Budget, budget....damn
There is another comparison video which said the distance from seat to peg is within 0.5” or so on both bikes. So while the Talaria stands taller and has more ground clearance, it doesn’t really translate to accommodating taller riders any better. Granted, you have more distance to the ground for peg extenders. It was also mentioned the seat to stem depth is more shallow on Talaria stock, so you’ll be in more of a froward lean position while seated.
@Chad Rabe Thanks for pointing that out. I have not measured that distance but you're correct, dropping the pegs will be more feasible on the Talaria for that reason.
Great Review Tucker! I ordered 4 from Alibaba and got scammed for more after they said I could have more bikes on their mistake, which has turned out to be a SCAM! I am going to make a video and looking for others that suffered as well. Hit me up if so.
On Sur Ron you cut the wire to unleash the power so what’s the crack with these bad boys, is it just set to full power from the box, thanks great video dude
The biggest problem with the Talaria is that the folks the make the bigger controller and bigger battery for the Sur Ron that will not work on this. Having had two sur rons know that most people buying this will want to upgrade to more power and I'm sure it will be a while before you can get upgraded controllers and bigger batteries for this.
..Your Video was really informative, good job. I will be buying one soon, do you think this bike would be acceptable for more technical slower speed riding somewhat like trials? (I know its not intended for trials). ..Speaking to others for this, best bet would be to go with more teeth on the rear sprocket but wondering about the bikes feel and design for this type of off road riding? ...Bob
Hey Tucker! Love your videos ! Last time I commented on your Varg video you and your great content made me consider getting one of these bikes and now a couple of weeks later I've decided to get one soon so thank you for that haha, you did influence me :D I've also watched your previous Talaria video where you rode with your mates, one of which had a KX85 front fork on the Surron. Can you please give us any information about it in terms of performance compared to other aftermarket forks for Surrons ? Also, will it fit Talaria ? And what do you think overall of that modificiation ? It makes sense to me as getting one of those KX85 forks will be significantly cheaper than brand new Fox forks so I'd like your insight as I have no clue whether that's good or not. I'm planning to do light trails with the bike. Thank you
@Richard Hey Richard! That's awesome to hear! In regards to the fork: Yes, for sure. I am going to be doing a build in the coming 1-2 months that will feature this exact topic. I'll need to ride it more in-depth to give my thoughts but please stay tuned for that. The quick answer is yes the bike was designed for a DH MTB fork but there are plenty of downsides to running those. They just are not designed for this much weight or type of riding. Manitou Dorado is another great fork for these bikes but expect to replace seals often and they do flex some - (Ebikezilla should be selling the Talaria with the Dorado). The downside to the 85cc forks is they are much heavier, although, that could be considered a pro depending on who you ask. I would only do the 85cc conversion if you're doing a power upgrade like BAC4000/8000 with a battery and are prepared for the bike to handle more like a "dirt bike". Hope that helps, more to follow. Thanks for the note 👍
@@ElectricCycleRider Thank you for reply man! It definitely helps as I'm not planning to do any power upgrades, I haven't got the bike yet and when I get it I definitely can't see myself dumping another 5000$ into more upgrades. It's been a while since I rode a bike/motorcycle so it will be plenty for me in stock I reckon.
Nice I may get one but I want more for less I want the upgrade and am willing to pay for them I just don’t want to jump off the $$$$$ Clif to get them I am going to see what the next generation comes up with your video are amazing but I need more run time a gas engine would run all day so why is it really worth it ??? Let’s see if a better battery and upgrade can come in one package an extra battery cost one third of the bike so is it worth it??? Thanks. JoP
@The Lone Wrangler I agree with you. In an effort to prevent the inevitable "S" storm that can happen in the comment section, I like to explain those variables as much as possible. You are absolutely right though and thank you for that. 👍
I've ridden dirt bikes AND ATVs my entire life only to conclude that I like a thumb throttle way more than a twisty. What options are there in the electric world?
Is there a wire you have to clip to get the full power, like the surron? Or does this one come with the full power unlocked? I assume it has the same top speed around 50 mph. I’m so torn on buying one of these or a surron around the end of April. I’m not buying it necessarily for trail riding, just commuting around downtown Austin. What do you recommend?
@OhGeez @@kimseller246 Is correct, no cutting wires necessary with this bike. If you're commuting, it might not be a bad idea to wait and see how the street legal Talaria shapes up for the US... If you're looking to purchase ASAP, getting a Sur Ron with a longer range battery from EBMX or ChiBattery is probably your best bet. The aftermarket batteries for the Talaria will be here soon but they already exist for the Sur Ron. Not mandatory to buy a bigger battery, of course, but sustained higher speed runs on these bikes will drain the battery quickly. Best of luck with it.
@@ElectricCycleRider i see what you mean, but the surron is currently $1,000 more for the same power/voltage. I am trying to buy asap, so im thinking the talaria is a lot more convenient, no?
@HealthJeeps &Guns Indeed it does. More important is riding style, soil, temperature and elevation which is all hard to quantify. To answer your question though, I currently weigh approximately 165-170 with gear.
Wow! The Fox fork you recommend is over $2,100. and the shock you recommend is over $800 with the spring sold separately! EBikezilla offers a Fast Ace, DNM or Taleria Factory set up. Which do you recommend, for us poor folk who still like to play?
I got one of these last week and the battery does the same thing, the rubber bumper is not in the correct spot on the battery lid, I had to move it and it fixed the problem. Did you notice how much stiffer the rear end is cause thats what stuck out to me when riding it next to the Surron on technical trails?
@@catrider4863 Much better! I rode it on a black diamond trail and with my stock surron (54t sprocket) and it is a big difference especially on rocky technical climbs, much more confident.
@Jason Hanson Interesting... As I mentioned, I have not ridden the full production model yet but will be soon. Thanks for letting that be known. Glad you found a solution too. The rear end does feel like it flexes less but because I'm running an upgraded shock, I didn't want to comment too much into that.
the total spend money for that bike, equal to Electric Motion Escape R, same size but still EM has better torque and clutch feat, Sur Ron Light Bee supposed to be cheap, because its a toy bike, the real bike is Sur Ron Storm Bee
The torque is just underwhelming. I expect a lot more out of a electric motor. I just don’t think they are quite refined enough to spend my money on one yet. I do have to say, it is fun.. but I don’t know if it’s there yet
@@ElectricCycleRider this thing is a cross between both IMO. Foot pegs no pedals its a dirt bike. Rear hand brake it's a mt bike. Twist throttle its a dirt bike, mt bike suspension its a mt bike, battery powered could be either.
It's a bad move, no matter how transparent you are, to be reviewing the product that isn't what people are getting if they are to pay for the product, simple as that. Didn't even get to finish the video, quite pointless.
@@nxdboi my fully modded surron went from 110lb stock to about 140lbs with 18/21 and everything upgraded. I added that ~30lbs in upgrades to stock talaria. A surron at 140lbs is already pushing the limits on the best mtn bike forks and shocks, especially if youre a heavy rider.
@@Zackattack94 The stock wheel setup on the Talaria is heavier. The Talaria battery is also something like ~10lbs heavier, so swapping them out with the same setup on your Sur Ron won't just be simple as just adding the weight difference from stock. The change in weight won't be as dramatic as it was on your Sur Ron.
@@nxdboi the talaria tire is still the same just slightly bigger then surron in the rear. The oem wheel set is extremely light. 21 front upgrade adds a lot of weight too. So that weight change will be huge if you go 18/21 on either bike. The weight gain on the talaria is going to be in the 25 to +30lbs if you go the full mx routewith power upgrades, no way around it. At 135lbs stock it almost the same weight as fully modded surron which already feels big to me going over jumps on hard landings. Adding any weight to the talaria is going to be noticable. The talaria needs 1000w more power and larger battery capacity just to feel the same and get the same range as stock surron. But only time will tell how the mtn bike parts hold up to abuse from these bikes.
@@Zackattack94 The hub is more substantial on the Talaria than that on the Sur Ron. Also take into account that changing the belt to a chain also adds a couple of pounds. All in all, taking into account all the changes that you _dont_ have to do to the Talaria and usually make on a Sur Ron, the Talaria is more like 15lbs heavier after all is said and done.
yeah, i started looking into these things as well. the price and range on these is just horrible. i can buy a hawk dlx 250 for 1/2 the price. id rather go the enduro route tbh. i dont have to lug around a battery in a backpack. the range on these is 30 or less depending on riding. im looking for something to mess around on and this just isnt it.
@@tigerrider6711 it's 1/2 the price and way more fun. The range is also alot better as well haha. Oh, it's also street legal as well. I know it doesn't as it's cheaper and better.
You put the battery down on the sand then you put it back in the bike without cleaning the bottom of it, you know right the electric contacts are right at the bottom!
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Great review! I've been thinking about getting a Sur Ron for a while, but just ordered a Talaria instead. Like you say, both are great bikes, but I think the gearbox and slightly larger size (since I'm 6' 2") will make the Talaria a little better for me. Just looking for something to putz around the yard and neighborhood on, and I'm super excited to see what all the fuss is about.
@ElationProductions Awesome, great to hear that! Make sure to grab yourself some riser bars or riser stem to open the cockpit up some. It will make a big difference. Enjoy.
@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks! Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Bike came in yesterday, and haven't had a chance to ride it a lot yet, but already feel those stock, low bars being a pain on my back.
I'm also tall, the small size of the in between ebikes is what's keeping me from buying in. Would love an XL build option.
Was also looking at what a good option for someone that is 6’2
@@umangatang Unfortunately no, I was looking at the Cake as its componentry is a bit better suited to swapping out but it still seems the larger e dirt bikes are the best fit solution for taller folks at this point. And I'm not looking for that true dirt bike solution, but rather the in between.
Hell yeah man, good job on the review. Talaria just sent me out another controller with updated software. Going to test it out in some gnarly conditions again and see if I still have that over heating problem. Been watching since before I had my channel and love the content.
Yep waiting for that video
@Mayhemjach Thanks dude! Interesting to hear of your overheating issues. Care to share what you're experiencing when it overheats?
Great review tucker! looks like talaria fixed all the major annoyances on the Sur-Ron! Awesome!
Thanks again Tucker! It's really great to have an actual rider review these machines. Definitely going to keep it Ron over here, but the gearbox does seem desirable
@Eli H Appreciate that Eli! For sure. Will be interesting to observe the durability over time. OG Sur Ron is still a very solid choice!
@@ElectricCycleRider bikes and beards reviewed sur ron or its segway counterpart and given too much power the belts will slip especially when debris works its way in
same ron is the better machine but good too see some comp
Competition is nice, the surron used to be alone in its category but now they gotta do better in the updated 2023 version, so thats a plus for the consumers. I've always wanted a surron X but if the next version talaria is still better than the updated surron version, I'll go with talaria instead.
@AZuRaFPS That's right. Glad to see some challenge in this category!
Sounds like larger or taller riders would benefit from the Talaria's scale and weight.
What I'd like to know is how they each perform in slower conditions or flat paved or hard pack roads going to the dirt riding sites.
How do they do in 25mph road driving conditions, that may be less exciting but part of a realistic experience?
Tucker is such an amazing rider, it's like a video game watching his ride, and a bit hard for me to relate to, without seeing some paved road shots showing the bike ride by, straight.
Would be interested in seeing battery levels with stock 44t steel sprocket. As well as your thoughts on acceleration with stock gearing.
@NorthSanDiegoRC Absolutely. Will be doing some follow up with all of that 👍
Sweet review. Still watching, but wanted to say, the battery still rattles around. I am trying some shimming, but not having any luck yet. Another note is the chain is loose on your test model. These bikes get so quiet when the chain is adjusted properly.
Oh and the weight is 138 lbs.
@@catrider4863 it’s not supposed to be.
Thanks for this detailed review. Thanks for mention that you can checkout the ebikes on your website with the link on where to buy the ebikes. 👍🏽
Hi Tucker
Fox 40 front fork is the best you can find in the market
That fork is very popular at mountain bike downhill segment 👍
Sharing my experience below
DNM and RST forks , they don’t last long and user will encounter noise caused by free play after few months of use
Hey man, Just want to warn you about that rear shock. Im a MTB'er and the new 2021+ Fox Float X2's have an issue of blowing up (literally) I'd possibly "downgrade" to a 2020 or under if i could!
One thing I immediately notice is that it's going to be quite difficult to change the seat height on that frame, and it seems like many Sur Ron riders do that. I just finished lowering mine.
That gearbox sounds a great point.
love my '21 Lbx-
I ride it far more than my petrol bikes,- its so tough & convinient to get on & go!
But its on belt Num 3 to date- 2 & 3 were generic belts- not Surron, over tightened num 2 slightly.
Front master cyl & brake pivvots worn out after 1400 miles. Ace bikes though.
I don't think the gearbox is an advantage or disadvantage as we haven't seen the longevity reliability of the box.
But if it's not reliable that's a massive disadvantage and will kill the sales
Hey Tucker, Ebikezilla offers the Talaria Sting with a Fast Ace fork, a DNM, or a Talaria Factory fork. Do you like any of these, or should I opt for the least expensive one, and discard it, to buy the Fox 40 fork and Fox F2 shock that you recommend?... or are there other forks and shocks that you'd also recommend, in a lower price range? I'm assuming that the shock is the most important upgrade, then the fork?... or are they important to both do at the same time. Budget, budget....damn
There is another comparison video which said the distance from seat to peg is within 0.5” or so on both bikes. So while the Talaria stands taller and has more ground clearance, it doesn’t really translate to accommodating taller riders any better. Granted, you have more distance to the ground for peg extenders. It was also mentioned the seat to stem depth is more shallow on Talaria stock, so you’ll be in more of a froward lean position while seated.
@Chad Rabe Thanks for pointing that out. I have not measured that distance but you're correct, dropping the pegs will be more feasible on the Talaria for that reason.
Great review, first closeup I’ve seen and learned it has a link in the back. From the pics I thought it was a linkless.
Great Review Tucker! I ordered 4 from Alibaba and got scammed for more after they said I could have more bikes on their mistake, which has turned out to be a SCAM! I am going to make a video and looking for others that suffered as well. Hit me up if so.
What you mean, u got scammed? They not going to send u ur bike?
Great review. Can you fill us in on headset used for these forks and anything else that was done during the fork install.
I like the look of the lower seat on this bike… I wonder if there’s a way to lower the production model?
On Sur Ron you cut the wire to unleash the power so what’s the crack with these bad boys, is it just set to full power from the box, thanks great video dude
Wow what a ride 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The biggest problem with the Talaria is that the folks the make the bigger controller and bigger battery for the Sur Ron that will not work on this. Having had two sur rons know that most people buying this will want to upgrade to more power and I'm sure it will be a while before you can get upgraded controllers and bigger batteries for this.
check out what EBMX in Australia has done. they have already built a variety of batteries and tuned controllers for the sting
Great reviews 👌did you need any other parts for the installation of the FOX 40 fork?
Thanks!!
..Your Video was really informative, good job.
I will be buying one soon, do you think this bike would be
acceptable for more technical slower speed riding somewhat
like trials? (I know its not intended for trials).
..Speaking to others for this, best bet would be to go with
more teeth on the rear sprocket but wondering about
the bikes feel and design for this type of off road riding?
...Bob
Hey Tucker!
Love your videos !
Last time I commented on your Varg video you and your great content made me consider getting one of these bikes and now a couple of weeks later I've decided to get one soon so thank you for that haha, you did influence me :D
I've also watched your previous Talaria video where you rode with your mates, one of which had a KX85 front fork on the Surron. Can you please give us any information about it in terms of performance compared to other aftermarket forks for Surrons ? Also, will it fit Talaria ? And what do you think overall of that modificiation ?
It makes sense to me as getting one of those KX85 forks will be significantly cheaper than brand new Fox forks so I'd like your insight as I have no clue whether that's good or not.
I'm planning to do light trails with the bike.
Thank you
@Richard Hey Richard! That's awesome to hear!
In regards to the fork: Yes, for sure. I am going to be doing a build in the coming 1-2 months that will feature this exact topic. I'll need to ride it more in-depth to give my thoughts but please stay tuned for that. The quick answer is yes the bike was designed for a DH MTB fork but there are plenty of downsides to running those. They just are not designed for this much weight or type of riding. Manitou Dorado is another great fork for these bikes but expect to replace seals often and they do flex some - (Ebikezilla should be selling the Talaria with the Dorado). The downside to the 85cc forks is they are much heavier, although, that could be considered a pro depending on who you ask. I would only do the 85cc conversion if you're doing a power upgrade like BAC4000/8000 with a battery and are prepared for the bike to handle more like a "dirt bike". Hope that helps, more to follow. Thanks for the note 👍
@@ElectricCycleRider Thank you for reply man!
It definitely helps as I'm not planning to do any power upgrades, I haven't got the bike yet and when I get it I definitely can't see myself dumping another 5000$ into more upgrades. It's been a while since I rode a bike/motorcycle so it will be plenty for me in stock I reckon.
that thang looks like tw200 hooked up with an emoto and had a baby! I'd keep er busy on the trails where it belongs! Let's go ecr!!!
Thanks for your opinion.
When you upgrade to larger diameter forks how do the triple clamps fit
I wouldn't call it a Surron look alike, it's more of an upgraded Surron.
I’ve tested a suron bike in the woods it’s fun but the suspension and brakes are weak and cheap!
The Talaria could be interesting
Looks like a tun of fun. Bad ass bike!
Thanks for sharing this adventure
Lol
Does the Talaria have the "green wire" that can be cut for higher performance like the Surron?
I was wondering the same
That place look like CROOM !!,I wish this bike would carry me @ 210 6'2" nice review
@Thumbgas You bet it is! Put some riser bars, bigger wheels, BAC 4000/8000 controller and battery (when they're ready) and it'll carry you swiftly!
@@ElectricCycleRider 🤔very tempting!!, I will follow your videos for updates, thx for the info
I see you removed the OEM lower headset bushing. What low stack headset did you replace it with?
Could u do a test of a fully modded Surron XX vs the 2022 KTM Freeride E-XC?
@Sam Danin Yessir. I'll put it on the list for content this Spring/Summer.
@@ElectricCycleRider Ok cool! I'll look foward to seeing that one!
Nice I may get one but I want more for less I want the upgrade and am willing to pay for them I just don’t want to jump off the $$$$$ Clif to get them I am going to see what the next generation comes up with your video are amazing but I need more run time a gas engine would run all day so why is it really worth it ???
Let’s see if a better battery and upgrade can come in one package an extra battery cost one third of the bike so is it worth it??? Thanks. JoP
I actually love the look of the Talaria more
Maybe I missed it, but how much riding time do you get on a charge with eco? How about with sport?
Stop apologizing to YT comments, If they have an issue then they can make their own video, but 99% of them are just arm chair "riders"🤷
@The Lone Wrangler I agree with you. In an effort to prevent the inevitable "S" storm that can happen in the comment section, I like to explain those variables as much as possible. You are absolutely right though and thank you for that. 👍
I've ridden dirt bikes AND ATVs my entire life only to conclude that I like a thumb throttle way more than a twisty. What options are there in the electric world?
Definitely not normal to have a thumb throttle in the bike world.
But I can see the advantage if that's what your used to especially.
It’s an electronic throttle so you can fit a ton of options
Time to sell my Ariel Rider Grizzly ebike and get me a talaria!!!!!!!!!!
Hi, what kind of range do you get riding like you do? thanks
What are the costs for all the upgrades thanks
Is there a wire you have to clip to get the full power, like the surron? Or does this one come with the full power unlocked? I assume it has the same top speed around 50 mph. I’m so torn on buying one of these or a surron around the end of April. I’m not buying it necessarily for trail riding, just commuting around downtown Austin. What do you recommend?
Full power is unlocked
@OhGeez @@kimseller246 Is correct, no cutting wires necessary with this bike. If you're commuting, it might not be a bad idea to wait and see how the street legal Talaria shapes up for the US... If you're looking to purchase ASAP, getting a Sur Ron with a longer range battery from EBMX or ChiBattery is probably your best bet. The aftermarket batteries for the Talaria will be here soon but they already exist for the Sur Ron. Not mandatory to buy a bigger battery, of course, but sustained higher speed runs on these bikes will drain the battery quickly. Best of luck with it.
@@ElectricCycleRider i see what you mean, but the surron is currently $1,000 more for the same power/voltage. I am trying to buy asap, so im thinking the talaria is a lot more convenient, no?
Have you had a chance to ride an EXT Arma shock yet?
Does this bike come restricted like the sur ron? Can it be de-restricted like the sur ron?
How much do you weigh ? That's going to play a roll in how long the battery will last
@HealthJeeps &Guns Indeed it does. More important is riding style, soil, temperature and elevation which is all hard to quantify. To answer your question though, I currently weigh approximately 165-170 with gear.
La talaria es una moto doble propósito?
How can you give a review on a upgraded version
I'm in Barbados this bike nice
Where did you get the FOX shocks?
Hello I was wondering if any of you know what the battery charger use for voltage because I am limited
What is the price of this bike?
17 miles...dang, was just getting my hopes up lol
Talaria for offroad Suron for on road is what id do
Wow! The Fox fork you recommend is over $2,100. and the shock you recommend is over $800 with the spring sold separately! EBikezilla offers a Fast Ace, DNM or Taleria Factory set up.
Which do you recommend, for us poor folk who still like to play?
Can someone who is six foot three and 220 LBS ride this bike?
whats about rear shock absorber?
could you shoot a grizzly bear from the back of this Bike doing full speed behind it?
Can I upgrade my talaria to 72v?
Front and back shock cost alomst as much as the bike itself. GG
Actually its half the cost of the talaria but still its a hard pill to swallow. WELL WORTH IT THOUGH.
I got one of these last week and the battery does the same thing, the rubber bumper is not in the correct spot on the battery lid, I had to move it and it fixed the problem. Did you notice how much stiffer the rear end is cause thats what stuck out to me when riding it next to the Surron on technical trails?
@@catrider4863 Much better! I rode it on a black diamond trail and with my stock surron (54t sprocket) and it is a big difference especially on rocky technical climbs, much more confident.
@Jason Hanson Interesting... As I mentioned, I have not ridden the full production model yet but will be soon. Thanks for letting that be known. Glad you found a solution too. The rear end does feel like it flexes less but because I'm running an upgraded shock, I didn't want to comment too much into that.
How much?
Aren’t fox 40s mtb forks? 😂
Yeah, but they can be tuned to easily handle the speed and weight of this thing. If the fox40 can handle downhill world cups it can handle this thing
Can u fit a 21in tire on this bike with the Fox40's ?
Fake news
Yes
mi dream is talaria bike
Need to know parts thanks shopping
Can you after market suron?parts
This FOX suspensions cost like whole STOCK bike :D
More like as much as a new battery, around $1,500 to $1,800 for the Fox 40s.
@@leetjohnson in EU i see f40 for 2000€+ and 750€+ rear FOX shock, price is huge
Is it chinise?
the total spend money for that bike, equal to Electric Motion Escape R, same size but still EM has better torque and clutch feat, Sur Ron Light Bee supposed to be cheap, because its a toy bike, the real bike is Sur Ron Storm Bee
I totally agree we want a 170lb storm bee
Well stock it's the same price as the Sur Ron. Cheaper in some cases.
@@elih9588 more like 270 lol
Super
Nice bike now bigger is even more interesting
Look at you at Croom..
The torque is just underwhelming. I expect a lot more out of a electric motor.
I just don’t think they are quite refined enough to spend my money on one yet. I do have to say, it is fun.. but I don’t know if it’s there yet
Have you tried 55t sprocket?
They had to find the right medium for the gen pub but with a lower tooth sprocket its a torque monster.
Doesn't seem as powerful as the suron for some reason
These things are electric mtn bikes. When they’re competitive in professional supercross and Motocross races, then you can call it a dirt bike.
@Boll Weevil If it has pedals it's a MTB. If it has a throttle it's a dirt bike. This has a throttle.
@@ElectricCycleRider this thing is a cross between both IMO. Foot pegs no pedals its a dirt bike. Rear hand brake it's a mt bike. Twist throttle its a dirt bike, mt bike suspension its a mt bike, battery powered could be either.
It's a bad move, no matter how transparent you are, to be reviewing the product that isn't what people are getting if they are to pay for the product, simple as that. Didn't even get to finish the video, quite pointless.
MaximusD must be D for douchebag 😂
so its not a talaria sting review
A 18/21 and bigger battery talaria will be near 170lbs or more 😳 surrons bigger bro
The Talaria actually weighs ~135lb stock, not 150. There are videos our there where they're weighed.
@@nxdboi my fully modded surron went from 110lb stock to about 140lbs with 18/21 and everything upgraded. I added that ~30lbs in upgrades to stock talaria. A surron at 140lbs is already pushing the limits on the best mtn bike forks and shocks, especially if youre a heavy rider.
@@Zackattack94 The stock wheel setup on the Talaria is heavier. The Talaria battery is also something like ~10lbs heavier, so swapping them out with the same setup on your Sur Ron won't just be simple as just adding the weight difference from stock. The change in weight won't be as dramatic as it was on your Sur Ron.
@@nxdboi the talaria tire is still the same just slightly bigger then surron in the rear. The oem wheel set is extremely light. 21 front upgrade adds a lot of weight too. So that weight change will be huge if you go 18/21 on either bike. The weight gain on the talaria is going to be in the 25 to +30lbs if you go the full mx routewith power upgrades, no way around it. At 135lbs stock it almost the same weight as fully modded surron which already feels big to me going over jumps on hard landings. Adding any weight to the talaria is going to be noticable. The talaria needs 1000w more power and larger battery capacity just to feel the same and get the same range as stock surron. But only time will tell how the mtn bike parts hold up to abuse from these bikes.
@@Zackattack94 The hub is more substantial on the Talaria than that on the Sur Ron. Also take into account that changing the belt to a chain also adds a couple of pounds. All in all, taking into account all the changes that you _dont_ have to do to the Talaria and usually make on a Sur Ron, the Talaria is more like 15lbs heavier after all is said and done.
$450 for shipping on top of the $4,200 price tag? Fuck outta here.
4200 is pretty decent for what you’re getting. There’s nothing comparable in the dirt bike world.
@@tigerrider6711 look up a hawk dlx
yeah, i started looking into these things as well. the price and range on these is just horrible. i can buy a hawk dlx 250 for 1/2 the price. id rather go the enduro route tbh. i dont have to lug around a battery in a backpack. the range on these is 30 or less depending on riding. im looking for something to mess around on and this just isnt it.
@@parkersgarage4216 that literally has nothing in common with the sur ron at all...idk why you would even compare them.
@@tigerrider6711 it's 1/2 the price and way more fun. The range is also alot better as well haha. Oh, it's also street legal as well. I know it doesn't as it's cheaper and better.
All I can think is make it street legal and take my money.
save money on these bikes? there 4000 + ! plus upgrades...
Ignore that fool, hit me with what ya got...
Yikes, such a sting... to the wallet 🤯
Have you priced e-MTB's or dirt bikes lately? It's pretty cheap vs the alternatives!
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You put the battery down on the sand then you put it back in the bike without cleaning the bottom of it, you know right the electric contacts are right at the bottom!