It is! Samsung now do a 30TB ssd lol And nimbus data have 50TB and 100TB ssds.. Plus they working on a 200TB next. OK the prices are off the scale but yeah aha
Yeah so you can find a 4tb nvme for $150 right now, I remember spending $100 for a 256gb around the time this video came out. I also remember when ram was $80 for 8gb, now you could find 16gb for $25.
those are gone for years now i have 4 ssd's in my pc i have bo cleu how but a friend of mine bought the parts build it and installed every needed program oh and there are 2 gtx 980ti's in it
those are gone for years now i have 4 ssd's in my pc i have bo cleu how but a friend of mine bought the parts build it and installed every needed program oh and there are 2 gtx 980ti's in it
watch, there is gonna be some guy who replies that is running 4 Titan x in SLI. a ten grand water cooling system. and has four of these ssd's that were in the video
+Kepler Born Lol, well my system storage is 3x Samsung EVO 1TB in Raid-0, and I backup to a $100 WD Passport Ultra. Sure, 1TB short of that one drive, but much faster for $1,100ish USD. Almost as quick as my Samsung M.2 NVMe boot drive. Just not recommended for.. high availability environments hehe.
zZViperBoostingZz lolz no he is not, dude. He is a used cars salesman with PC knowledge. I'm a professional... sysadmin'd enterprise networks for 20 years. Linus is a professional... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even with my ever-growing library of movies and tv series on my computer, I have never managed to even come close to filling a 250GB drive. At the moment I am putting 500GB SSDs from Samsung into just about every computer that I upgrade (either for self, family or friends). This would be great drive for a home or small business network where you want to dump all the files and read them back quickly.
+Clay Brewer To be precise, 1TiB = 1024GiB, but Windows shows TiB as TB, if you use openSUSE's Dolphin, it shows you GiB instead of GB. Not sure who's fault it is, but Terabyte is confused with Tebibyte. So in Windows, TB means Tebibyte and 1TB = 1024 GB.
+SquidPlays Well a few years ago getting an SSD for 0.86 cents to the GB was pretty good. This thing is only 0.56 cents to the GB which does make it a good deal compared to then but SSDs will continue to drop because we are coming out with faster modules for storage. Probably why we are finally getting large storage capacity drives :d
+Brent Lochhead i think its death wish coffee and yes that is a real coffee its the strongest coffee in the world is what they say but stuff is strong coffee it'll wake you up in the morning all right
+TheDanish Drok (drikdrok) What??? Are you telling me that Apple will still be in business by that time? People is stupid buying that overpriced crap...
Wow, this is the 1st time I've seen the inside of an SSD drive. My jaw dropped when all you pulled out was a board with some memory chips on it. Amazing how small storage has gotten. I still remember playing on my Tandy 1000 with a 10Mb HDD. Would love to have an SSD though... my rig has a normal 1Tb HDD.
+Diecast Gaming Seagate has already released a 60TB SSD this year last August. Check it out: www.extremetech.com/extreme/233358-seagate-unveils-the-worlds-largest-ssd-60tb Albeit, I'm pretty sure it will come with an "indescribable" price.
Diecast Gaming First, Samsung released a 16TB SSD in August 2015, then one year later *BAM!* Seagate completely rekts Samsung's SSD with a 60TB SSD. Samsung has been utterly destroyed by Seagate (in terms of storage for SSDs).
...I just have so much in storage. i need large amounts of space. Have my ROMS, ISOS, Developer tools ... Someday I would want a few of those 60TB disks and raid them together on a NAS.
I remember back in 1992, my dad bought me an 1GB Hard Disk and said "There! You may use it forever and it will never fill up!" (Because I was too young back then to understand what Mega or Giga meant). Nostalgia Nostalgia, sigh.
they can already make small ssd's with 20 tb and even more, why do you think they dont just release it ? cause they can release drives with slight increases in storage and sell that little amount for a high price rather than just releasing a drive with 100 tb for 6000 dollars - and yes same goes for cpu's gpu's and all other hardware. You really think that all of a sudden a man i a labcoat comes running out of the lab saying "we've done it ! we have succesfully increased the storage with 1 terabyte ! " - nope not likely, they are lightyears ahead of whats on the market right now
Casper sanderson very true, I've read up quite abit on this kind of stuff, it's just like chips in toys and robots being developed, especially the military, they have had technology for decades which is way beyond what we have today but will Never reveal any of it
Casper sanderson Think about what you just said... The main goal for any business/firm is to make money consistently and constantly from quarter to quarter. If a company has developed pieces of engineering that is 10x better than what's on the market and chooses not to release it, what the business is doing is: 1. Wasting resources. 2. Losing money to feed that development that can't profit whatsoever from until the market needs new products. Large scale companies don't want to hold onto 'new' tech for too long. They need to sell those assets to maintain turning expenses or investments into revenue and eventually profits. Just saying that if businesses were deliberately holding onto new tech, it would be too expensive to be patient. Competition is everywhere. You gotta get that new tech out before someone else does and price it reasonably. If you're too late then that's you're investment gone. It's too risky to develop, wait, then release. It's a race for money.
+Gilles Van Hooff i don't advice you to do that! If your ssd beak then you'll lose every data in there! You can't recover them easilly like a hdd I mean, you can use your ssd to storage softwares and similar, but i hope you have another hdd to storage more important things
+Gioun. plz Well the chances of an ssd to break are much smaller than a mechanical hard drive to break. Besides, yes I have an external HDD to store things like music and photos and some steam games, but all of my editting software, programming software, files and OS are on my SSD. Boot time is about 15 seconds and opening a program like photoshop only takes a couple of seconds. I love it!
+Gioun. plz My lenovo laptop has an 850 evo 512gb ssd as the main drive. Partly because my CAD program was so slow.... But I have only one place for it.....so might be dangerous. But I have to and I like dangerous. Then again all my important files are backed up.
***** I just made an upgrade to my pc and i bought a 250gb ssd and the Boot it's CRAZY, holy damn less than 10 second and i'm already in the Windows Home xD Btw, if you have only softwares and stuff usefull that you can easilly download again in your ssd it's not a problem! Maybe you should do some "backup" like weekly or monthly to keep it more safe :D
2.2k$ lol... at the time of writing this (2019), its about 600$ on amazon, i love how fast the prices come down ^^ and is this really the very first Holy $h!t video?
@@finn-lukas2279 oh nice,i got my 1TB for 100€ like 2 months ago and starting to regret more and more not getting the 2TB "crazy how fast times change" as would say my father
Mark my words, there is price fixing going on in the SSD and NAND chip market more generally. The EXACT same companies that previously price-fixed RAM, then turned around and price-fixed LCD panels for years before getting busted for each is price-fixing NAND chips and SSDs. There is a fairly easy way to detect price-fixing. If you look around and practically every product you can think of includes a component, and the price of that component does not drop with radical speed, price-fixing is going on. The only exception to this is with components which actually require rare materials like tantalum and such. NAND chips do not. SSDs should have been available in capacities greatly surpassing mechanical hard drives within 2 years of their initial release. Just think about the materials involved in manufacturing a hard drive, or the manufacturing processes involved. Modern high-density hard drives are an insane feat of engineering. High-density NAND chips are just big arrays of NAND gates. Hard drives often involve rare materials (although in quite small amounts) including ruthenium. The introduction of solid-state storage should have been a quantum leap not just in performance but in data storage capacity. And their price per terabyte of storage should have blown past mechanical hard drives very quickly. Multiple countries are investigating price-fixing in the NAND chip market, and I guarantee you that they will find it. The companies do this because it is massively profitable, and the meager fines that they are made to pay are so small in comparison that they simply consider it a cost of doing business. Generate $500 million in extra profit, then pay back $2 million or so in fines. You don't have to be an accountant to figure out whether you should do that or not.
I know right!? it's silly. Same thing as with cellphones getting stupidly thin. Just make them 'candybar' thickness, and give them a week's battery life
current time and date Mon Feb 8 17:34:22 2016 Filesystem created: Fri May 8 17:24:10 2015 Lifetime writes: 1052 GB 5600tb life span? this drive will last me 56000 months or 4667 years
+Peter Cooper (peterc) Speaking of small barely noticable "fails". Was I the only one who noticed Linus saying: "A soft touch service" and not surface at 10:19? Might just be my english listening ability that's a bit off though ^^
I forgot how to do it but you can set a start up time on your computer. So you can turn on your system before you wake up for the day or something like that.
Wouldn't that need either additional hardware or having the computer do some form of hibernation instead of shutting down? If the computer is completely off wouldn't it be unable to turn itself back on?
***** you can get 120 GB for $40 not 20gb Just do a Google search 120gb is actually pretty good for me if I was buying, I never filled a hard drive
+Nicholas Ruiz 1tb hdd in laptop>120gb ssd id take my slow large storage then then just 120gb fast BUT iif you have room in your laptop ge a 120gb and put windows on it and the few programs you want to load fast
Rafael Soares Pinheiro www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/41xbbr/steam_linux_gaming_over_90_hours_played/ TL;DR: 90% of all the time people game is in games that support Linux. Get your sarcastic attitude outta here! ;P
+rusins time played is different from the amount of games available of Linux compared to windows. The most popular and most played games (on Steam so excluding LoL) expertly have Linux compatibility, but most games do not. AAA games for example will not be on that list for most hours played because they r not competitive like csgo dota etc, but are still sold a lot, and are not usually compatible with Linux. Although I know u can run Windows games on Linux with some fidgeting with Wine
+rusins time played is different from the amount of games available of Linux compared to windows. The most popular and most played games (on Steam so excluding LoL) expertly have Linux compatibility, but most games do not. AAA games for example will not be on that list for most hours played because they r not competitive like csgo dota etc, but are still sold a lot, and are not usually compatible with Linux. Although I know u can run Windows games on Linux with some fidgeting with Wine
I'm not a pc expert but hear me out. RAID 0 drives run quicker cause data can be transferred over 2 SATA cables using 2 data buses at once. so theoretically could you have 1 2.5" ssd with 2 SATA ports to double its speed if the Ssd had an advanced controller on board
Qardo yes I get that but archive drives are intended for what the name implies and to even get 1 tb of space on a ssd it would be the size of a normal drive and cost twice as much. Hell linus uses them in some of his servers. Yes I know whonnock server is ssd but if you want capacity over speed the hard disk it is. And ssds are verrrrryy expensive. For the cost of 100tb of ssd space it would cost about 40,000. Not to mention you would have to run the drives in RAID and for about 38 thousand less you can have 100 tb! I've had my WD green for about 8 years and is still working juuuust fine(I don't think western digital makes green drives anymore)not to mention the constant abuse of being shifted from place to place. I am faithful to hard drives and keep ssds to gaming and utility options
Awesome. I saw on your site you're currently looking for video editors. If I was in your area I would definitely apply for the job, but I am in Ontario. I like your show, keep the great episodes coming!
i dont know why they dont make an ssd the size of a normal hard drive to increase its storage my ssd sits in my hdd drive bays anyway so its not like i dont have the room for one that big.
From my pov, it's not really about the space in which you put the SSD, you can get 128 gb usbs, which aren't even that big (I know they run at low speeds) so it's probably just because it's a standard, and they don't want to sell 'bigger' drives (3.5") if what most people need and want is the 2.5" with the possibility of using it in a laptop.
+ellswtf Probably bc the SSD would have a 1/4th of the rated warrenty time. The problem is to add more space you have to either $$$$ the cells for the same space, or add more cells for cheap and a larger factor. Problem with that is the cells die. The more you have, the faster that is, and the more random it is you lose data. So it's not worth increasing risk in this case.
I'm here from 8TB SSD that they showcased here.. How long we've come along from 2.5' SSD to have 4TB of capacity.. To NVMe with 8TB capacity.. Quite insane..
+About 47 T-Rexes You would need to run Raid-0 to reach the same amount of space, it's personally what I do with my setup, but if this is for server / high availability environements, it won't work. Raid-5 with 3x2 or 5x1TB would do it.
+Smile! Well you're half-right. A terabyte can be defined as either 1,000,000,000,000 bytes, or 1,099,511,627,776 bytes. (Though to avoid confusion, I believe it should always be 1,000,000,000,000.) A tebibyte is always 1,099,511,627,776 bytes. This is the difference between metric and metric-binary. Metric representations are much more common, but metric-binary are properly representative of the way such technologies actually work. As a result, most metric size estimates are rounded anyway.
You have not been paying attention. Last year I sold an enterprise storage system with 4 shelves of 1.6TB SSD's. That is 96 SSD's on a single system. The 3.8TB version was available by Christmas as well! I could have offeren 48 of these in that same system.
Why bitch about cost? In 1980 I bought a 10Mb Winchester drive for $1650, that's about 5k of your greenbacks in today's currency. It, like this, was cutting edge, new technology, if you want it, you have to pay for it, or hang around a few years until 3.84Tb SSD's are $50.
I'm sporting an Intel 910 PCI-e SSD from 2012, 400GB. It was $1900 new but I got it new for 160€ in 2014. There was a larger 800GB one that was like $3500. It was their top of the line server part, this 4 years younger one has over 9 times more space for not much more and in 2" formfactor! I just checked, 4tb SSD's are less than 400 now! Amazing how technology advances.
Not exactly fair from a cost comparison, but modern all flash arrays, even when removing technologies like de-duplication and compression (that usually do not offer much when it comes to already optimised multimedia files) offer in excess of 1.5PB of persistent flash capacity (that perform up to 4x faster than the Samsung SSD in this video) within a single rack. If adding capacity optimisation, even a modest 2:1 using de-duplication and (more likely) compression, this equates to more than 3PB of persistent flash capacity. Some solutions can offer even denser solutions, but usually at approximately the same performance is this SSD.
Can someone explain why not just buy a SAN with 15K SAS drives?? I know they make them with SSD's now but you get more storage per $ with the SAS drives (and I would guess larger life span too).
The most significant savings in a enterprise data center would be electricity. By itself it could be payback in a couple of years. The savings in labor & logistics for replacing a fail hard drives is also not trivial. There is a cost for retrofitting old servers with new drive sled bays, but with no spinning disk vibration to deal with, you could just literally just throw a rubber band on a stack.
I want this. Not because I need 4tb of solid-state when my 2tb 850 is enough...but because more storage means the writes are distributed more, and increases endurance. I'm curious to how much writing this can handle.
But I bought my Samsung 500gb ssd for $200 CAD, so like 57 cents USD. Anyways, 500gb X 4 = 2TB. And $200 CAD X 4 = $800, or like $720US. So how is it $2200 US for 3.4TB? Because it only takes up one drive bay Or..? Is that really worth the insane price?
It's because Moore's law is starting to slow down. 14nm is the minimum size for consumer transistors right now, and the minimum size ever likely is going to be around 5nm. It's closed, huh? The closer you get to to atomic scale, the more heat that builds up due to electron tunneling. Fixing these problems are much harder, and soon there will be no way to make it smaller without the entire circuit, well, melt.
and to think that now it's going for about $850 or so (give or take) on amazon.. yeah, get it now if you can.. cause apparently it's on sale from around $1150 usual price.
The drive space advantage would be a legitimate factor except that if you want to use such tiny drives in such a way as to actually exploit their small size, then you'd need different drive-sleds (nearly custom), and MUCH more expensive raid/controllers in each one.
Pretty cool! about 15 TB of storage in the physical space of a typical 3.5" Hard drive! Now the big question, heat load on the server room? Some SSDs run very cool, others are horrendously HOT!
2TB of SATA NAND for $1000usd three years ago... a couple of months ago I bought a 1TB NVMe SSD for $200 Aussie... prices REALLY have dropped over the past couple years...
It is 57 cents per gigabyte (0.57$) It isn't comparable to something like a Seagate 8TB V2 Archive Drive as cost per gigabyte for that thing is 2 cents (0.02$) as the Archive Drive is magnetic media.
Watching this 5 years later makes it almost funny
It's ridicolous how fast tech goes
it sure is
Just bought a 4TB WD SSD for less than £300, time really does fly
It is! Samsung now do a 30TB ssd lol And nimbus data have 50TB and 100TB ssds.. Plus they working on a 200TB next. OK the prices are off the scale but yeah aha
Yeah so you can find a 4tb nvme for $150 right now, I remember spending $100 for a 256gb around the time this video came out. I also remember when ram was $80 for 8gb, now you could find 16gb for $25.
4 Years later: Holy $hit! This 100TB SSD Costs $40,000!!
In another 4 years we'll get the 2.5 PB SSD and it costs $500k!
@@SebastianHasch no
@@SebastianHasch it doesn't work like that
@@rhebucks_zhYou do understand what a joke is right?
Gone are the days of 32/64GB SSD boot drives :)
+Hardware Unboxed Soon it is going to be like: "Gone are the days of slow sata3 SSDs" :)
PortfolioPL Yeah but don’t hold your breath, you won’t survive ;) Those things will be around for as long as the floppy drive was.
lol
those are gone for years now i have 4 ssd's in my pc i have bo cleu how but a friend of mine bought the parts build it and installed every needed program oh and there are 2 gtx 980ti's in it
those are gone for years now i have 4 ssd's in my pc i have bo cleu how but a friend of mine bought the parts build it and installed every needed program oh and there are 2 gtx 980ti's in it
I want it...
+HardwareCanucks SENPAI NOTICE ME I'M A BIG FAN :)
+HardwareCanucks Me too :)
+HardwareCanucks it likes the hdd replacement but it extremely expensive compared with hdd dollar per GB~
Yeah you guys might want it but I NEED it so gimmie here! :O
+HardwareCanucks Me too but that'd cost more than a motorcycle in my country.
I really like the old-school unboxing part of the video. Missed it for so long!
Same here
Wheres the bat knife
Wheres the bat knife
is better than all these new publicity bulsht
is better than all these new publicity bulsht
Who's here after the 100TB SSD video?
FilFee Me 😂
im gonna go to the 100tb ssd video after this cuz its in my "up next
Y e s
Not me, but i still watched it lmao
Watched a week ago (right after the new new wanic video)
ssd costs 2.5 times more than my whole pc.
+Bradley Miles (Sylerous) this ssd costs $50 less than my pc xD
+DJ Jesus.He Died for your spins FeelsBadMan
+DJ Jesus.He Died for your spins FeelsBadMan
+Alexandr Nikonov *insert i feel you bro meme here*
+Alexandr Nikonov Hello there is a discount on the ssd!
When 1 drive is about 3 times as expensive as your whole system
Rekt. Mines worth twice as much
peasants mine costs $2,500 usd
watch, there is gonna be some guy who replies that is running 4 Titan x in SLI. a ten grand water cooling system. and has four of these ssd's that were in the video
Kepler Born lol ye
+Kepler Born Lol, well my system storage is 3x Samsung EVO 1TB in Raid-0, and I backup to a $100 WD Passport Ultra. Sure, 1TB short of that one drive, but much faster for $1,100ish USD. Almost as quick as my Samsung M.2 NVMe boot drive. Just not recommended for.. high availability environments hehe.
now we all need is a server of the "HOLY $H!T SSD"
+SoloNita linus should stick with PCs... servers are for professionals.
zZViperBoostingZz lolz no he is not, dude. He is a used cars salesman with PC knowledge. I'm a professional... sysadmin'd enterprise networks for 20 years. Linus is a professional... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Calm down children,no need to start a shitstorm
+TallahassZ Remington But you wasnt a professional before you started so shut the fuck up.
+TallahassZ Remington
"He is a used cars salesman with PC knowledge."
Oh man, that's a perfect description. You win ALL THE THINGS!
10 years from now people will laugh at this
이승진 60tb ssd now
이승진 32 tb? From which brand is that ssd? I mean, the biggest hdd i've seen is 12tb, a third of that capacity and it's an hdd...
Seagate has the new 60TB SSD.
Sci Guy911 that's totally unnecessary...
Juan Sambucetti No way. I would use it and fill it up! I don’t know what I would do with the other 57 TB though ;)
It's funny that in 10 years...or even less, this much capacity (and price) will be comical.
Not if we all die in 10 years....
+Omni Craft point taken
Even with my ever-growing library of movies and tv series on my computer, I have never managed to even come close to filling a 250GB drive. At the moment I am putting 500GB SSDs from Samsung into just about every computer that I upgrade (either for self, family or friends).
This would be great drive for a home or small business network where you want to dump all the files and read them back quickly.
Filled my 2.5 terabyte drives with steam and movies, had to fit another 2tb drive.
As well as an obsolete capacity. we'll probably need twice that.
Oh man, this started out like the old-school unboxings from back in the day. Me like!
*BEING POOR INTENSIFIES*
+Geek- O -Phile Pretty much
No shit! Lol.
No shit! Lol.
No shit! Lol.
No shiit! Lol.
3840 GB = 3.75 TB in Windows
Nice math skills m8
+Clay Brewer tejji.com/convert/bytes-conversion.aspx?q=3840-gigabyte-in-terabyte
1 TB = 1024 GB in Windows
+Marius Tancredi well obviously you're correct on this but that's an awfully strange way of counting them...
+Clay Brewer To be precise, 1TiB = 1024GiB, but Windows shows TiB as TB, if you use openSUSE's Dolphin, it shows you GiB instead of GB. Not sure who's fault it is, but Terabyte is confused with Tebibyte. So in Windows, TB means Tebibyte and 1TB = 1024 GB.
More likely it'll be 3.49TB because 3840 GB on specification means 3840.000.000.000 bytes. So if you take 3840e9 / (1024^4) you get 3.49
That price is high!
High damn!
Stoned a police and a fireman!
That price is high!
High damn!
Make a dragon smoke cocaine, man!
+SquidPlays Nice copypasta.
Kyzr I didn't copypaste it
Nope, copy pasta.
Kyzr yup. I ate pasta with copy sauce.
+SquidPlays
Well a few years ago getting an SSD for 0.86 cents to the GB was pretty good. This thing is only 0.56 cents to the GB which does make it a good deal compared to then but SSDs will continue to drop because we are coming out with faster modules for storage. Probably why we are finally getting large storage capacity drives :d
And im sitting here with my 500gb HDD
i have 160gb hdd..
Zippyy Welp...
500 isn't that bad. I'd say that's like the bare minimum.
You can pick up a 2TB for like $50-60 on ebay.
me sitting with my 90 gb
I want the coffee you drink. I am exhausted watching you!! I love the enthusiasm and energy.
Excelsior
+Brent Lochhead Maybe it's a colombian blend ;)
+Brent Lochhead XD he's calmer when he gets pranked about missing his flight to a one-month trip (on Channel Super Fun)
+Brent Lochhead It's not coffee *cough* cocaine *cough*
+Philip Hanner Gotta go fast.
+Brent Lochhead i think its death wish coffee and yes that is a real coffee its the strongest coffee in the world is what they say but stuff is strong coffee it'll wake you up in the morning all right
In 50 years kids are gonna laugh on when in 2015 we thought that terabyte was much
+alexisaddicted Im from the future. And i can confirm. We have 16 Petabytes Iphones and stuff :Dbtw we made the matrix.
+TheDanish Drok (drikdrok) What??? Are you telling me that Apple will still be in business by that time? People is stupid buying that overpriced crap...
lol. i hate apple too
+TheDanish Drok (drikdrok) apple will still be at 16gb lol
KingHelianTheXVIII Hahahaha so true x')
Wow, this is the 1st time I've seen the inside of an SSD drive. My jaw dropped when all you pulled out was a board with some memory chips on it. Amazing how small storage has gotten. I still remember playing on my Tandy 1000 with a 10Mb HDD. Would love to have an SSD though... my rig has a normal 1Tb HDD.
...I want the 60TB one instead please.
Arakmatzu It would be the smallest size available in 2030
+Diecast Gaming Seagate has already released a 60TB SSD this year last August. Check it out: www.extremetech.com/extreme/233358-seagate-unveils-the-worlds-largest-ssd-60tb
Albeit, I'm pretty sure it will come with an "indescribable" price.
Trispectre ya lol
Diecast Gaming First, Samsung released a 16TB SSD in August 2015, then one year later *BAM!* Seagate completely rekts Samsung's SSD with a 60TB SSD. Samsung has been utterly destroyed by Seagate (in terms of storage for SSDs).
...I just have so much in storage. i need large amounts of space. Have my ROMS, ISOS, Developer tools ... Someday I would want a few of those 60TB disks and raid them together on a NAS.
And here I am with a 120GB SSD .... : (
lol at least u have one :(
+chion273 Yeah i got no SSD just a 1TB HDD
I have a 120 gb 3.5 hard drive.
+GUTIERRITOS 926 #WindowsBootTimeTakesAnEternity
+deity 93 ------> 256 HDD :|
linus you are my favorite tech RUclipsr
+Lunar Eclipse same
+jazy921 same
+jazy921 same
same
emas
I remember back in 1992, my dad bought me an 1GB Hard Disk and said "There! You may use it forever and it will never fill up!" (Because I was too young back then to understand what Mega or Giga meant).
Nostalgia Nostalgia, sigh.
Mr. Dionto Ahmed Nostalgia, nostalgia everywhere
they can already make small ssd's with 20 tb and even more, why do you think they dont just release it ? cause they can release drives with slight increases in storage and sell that little amount for a high price rather than just releasing a drive with 100 tb for 6000 dollars - and yes same goes for cpu's gpu's and all other hardware. You really think that all of a sudden a man i a labcoat comes running out of the lab saying "we've done it ! we have succesfully increased the storage with 1 terabyte ! " - nope not likely, they are lightyears ahead of whats on the market right now
Casper sanderson very true, I've read up quite abit on this kind of stuff, it's just like chips in toys and robots being developed, especially the military, they have had technology for decades which is way beyond what we have today but will Never reveal any of it
Casper sanderson
Think about what you just said...
The main goal for any business/firm is to make money consistently and constantly from quarter to quarter.
If a company has developed pieces of engineering that is 10x better than what's on the market and chooses not to release it, what the business is doing is:
1. Wasting resources.
2. Losing money to feed that development that can't profit whatsoever from until the market needs new products.
Large scale companies don't want to hold onto 'new' tech for too long. They need to sell those assets to maintain turning expenses or investments into revenue and eventually profits.
Just saying that if businesses were deliberately holding onto new tech, it would be too expensive to be patient. Competition is everywhere. You gotta get that new tech out before someone else does and price it reasonably. If you're too late then that's you're investment gone.
It's too risky to develop, wait, then release. It's a race for money.
John Doe
nvidia does the same thing.
Your logic only works if there was no competition in the market. The delays most likely comes from the high cost of manufacture
Recently bought a 1TB samsung ssd, I use it as my main drive now, epic.
+Gilles Van Hooff i don't advice you to do that!
If your ssd beak then you'll lose every data in there! You can't recover them easilly like a hdd
I mean, you can use your ssd to storage softwares and similar, but i hope you have another hdd to storage more important things
+Gioun. plz Well the chances of an ssd to break are much smaller than a mechanical hard drive to break. Besides, yes I have an external HDD to store things like music and photos and some steam games, but all of my editting software, programming software, files and OS are on my SSD.
Boot time is about 15 seconds and opening a program like photoshop only takes a couple of seconds. I love it!
+Gioun. plz My lenovo laptop has an 850 evo 512gb ssd as the main drive. Partly because my CAD program was so slow....
But I have only one place for it.....so might be dangerous. But I have to and I like dangerous. Then again all my important files are backed up.
***** I just made an upgrade to my pc and i bought a 250gb ssd and the Boot it's CRAZY, holy damn less than 10 second and i'm already in the Windows Home xD
Btw, if you have only softwares and stuff usefull that you can easilly download again in your ssd it's not a problem! Maybe you should do some "backup" like weekly or monthly to keep it more safe :D
Nico Katsburg
Well, if you pc has only a ssd it's a bit risky xD
But if you are confortable with that it's okay
Tunnel Bear doesn't allow P2P user sharing. Just thought some people would like to know
oh wow ok.
+primoshunter What does that mean?
TheAwesome HNH It won't work with popular applications such as Utorrent.
2.2k$ lol... at the time of writing this (2019), its about 600$ on amazon, i love how fast the prices come down ^^
and is this really the very first Holy $h!t video?
as i am writing this (2021) i bought a 2TB SSD for 140$
@@finn-lukas2279 oh nice,i got my 1TB for 100€ like 2 months ago and starting to regret more and more not getting the 2TB
"crazy how fast times change" as would say my father
He said reasonable price....
Samsung PM863 3.84TB SATA INTERNAL
by Samsung
$1,861.00 + $7.02 shipping
Amazon: geni.us/Zd0
Jesus christ
That shipping is ridiculous!
for homeless and regular tech people it is expensive, for somebody who is making $2000 a week it is perfectly reasonable price.
thats more than my whole pc
+Lukas Safi same xP
+Turtle Armies in my country, the ssd cost 2042€, which is more than my entire setup(pc,monitor,mausepad,headset,mouse,monitor,controller)
Mark my words, there is price fixing going on in the SSD and NAND chip market more generally. The EXACT same companies that previously price-fixed RAM, then turned around and price-fixed LCD panels for years before getting busted for each is price-fixing NAND chips and SSDs. There is a fairly easy way to detect price-fixing. If you look around and practically every product you can think of includes a component, and the price of that component does not drop with radical speed, price-fixing is going on. The only exception to this is with components which actually require rare materials like tantalum and such. NAND chips do not.
SSDs should have been available in capacities greatly surpassing mechanical hard drives within 2 years of their initial release. Just think about the materials involved in manufacturing a hard drive, or the manufacturing processes involved. Modern high-density hard drives are an insane feat of engineering. High-density NAND chips are just big arrays of NAND gates. Hard drives often involve rare materials (although in quite small amounts) including ruthenium. The introduction of solid-state storage should have been a quantum leap not just in performance but in data storage capacity. And their price per terabyte of storage should have blown past mechanical hard drives very quickly.
Multiple countries are investigating price-fixing in the NAND chip market, and I guarantee you that they will find it. The companies do this because it is massively profitable, and the meager fines that they are made to pay are so small in comparison that they simply consider it a cost of doing business. Generate $500 million in extra profit, then pay back $2 million or so in fines. You don't have to be an accountant to figure out whether you should do that or not.
Dustin Rodriguez I hate Samsung now, do you have any sources for this? Quite interesting
Dustin Rodriguez never thought of this! Interesting...
Who decided the SSD should be 2.5 inch anyways? Why not make it just as large and thick as a hard drive to slap more of those chips inside?
I know right!? it's silly. Same thing as with cellphones getting stupidly thin. Just make them 'candybar' thickness, and give them a week's battery life
***** IKR!!!
I'd love a huge brick phone with like a week of battery life.
It isn't *not* possbile ami right??
Tony Lu I've used brick phones before...
you silly troll you
Kenchan1337
:C
Linus, this drive isn't 3.84TB... 3840GB Isn't 3.84TB... Remember... 1024 Gigabytes in a Terabyte
+Hungrybonegaming so its 3.75tb technically
3.768TB
LIE-NUS
+Hungrybonegaming Almost all 1TB drives are 1000GB anyway.
I like it when companies be honest to us
current time and date Mon Feb 8 17:34:22 2016
Filesystem created: Fri May 8 17:24:10 2015
Lifetime writes: 1052 GB
5600tb life span? this drive will last me 56000 months or 4667 years
Loved the video, but a rare missed edit at around the 7:06 mark (sentence repeated) :-)
+Peter Cooper (peterc) Speaking of small barely noticable "fails". Was I the only one who noticed Linus saying: "A soft touch service" and not surface at 10:19?
Might just be my english listening ability that's a bit off though ^^
+Peter Cooper (peterc) Actually no, he was just saying the same thing for emphasis :P
my pc better turn on itself before i press the button
I forgot how to do it but you can set a start up time on your computer. So you can turn on your system before you wake up for the day or something like that.
Wouldn't that need either additional hardware or having the computer do some form of hibernation instead of shutting down? If the computer is completely off wouldn't it be unable to turn itself back on?
What the fuck? Lol.
Re wire the button to your chair so when you sit down it starts up. Make it wireless tho
I wish I had a SSD in my notebook.
some are only $40
+Nicholas Ruiz Yeah, you know, if you need a solid 20GB
I'd prefer RAIDing flash drives
***** you can get 120 GB for $40 not 20gb
Just do a Google search
120gb is actually pretty good for me if I was buying, I never filled a hard drive
+Nicholas Ruiz 1tb hdd in laptop>120gb ssd id take my slow large storage then then just 120gb fast BUT iif you have room in your laptop ge a 120gb and put windows on it and the few programs you want to load fast
My sister bought a Samsung 850 Evo with 250 GB of storage for only $80. I had to install it to her 2009 MacBook Pro.
I love that I own a 4TB SSD in 2021 (Samsung 870 QVO). Amazing for my mini-itx travel gaming PC.
So basically this SSD is for work professionals and not the 12 year old fanbase from Twitch.
Well this aged well xd
Remember paying over $1/MB, then got to $1/GB, given some more time it will come down, $1/TB.
+Grant Erickson That's a while off for any storage media. I just want to see a petabyte drive before I die.
+Dave Starr Exactly how large is a petabyte? I have google but I figure I'd not make a new tab and take the time xD is it like 100k gigs?
+Curtis Rak how about a yottabyte
Curtis Rak A petabyte is 1,000 terabytes.
+Dave Starr 1736 Monoicosebyte How much kilobits are in this
The new Samsung PM1633a already beats this with it's 15.36 TB Capacity, but is an Enterprise class SSD and uses a 12 GBps SAS Interface
Roccat is cool, they actually have Linux drivers for their gaming gear.
really? Roccat, shut up, gimme your stuff and take my money!
+rusins So now we just need games for Linux.
Rafael Soares Pinheiro www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/41xbbr/steam_linux_gaming_over_90_hours_played/
TL;DR: 90% of all the time people game is in games that support Linux. Get your sarcastic attitude outta here! ;P
+rusins time played is different from the amount of games available of Linux compared to windows. The most popular and most played games (on Steam so excluding LoL) expertly have Linux compatibility, but most games do not. AAA games for example will not be on that list for most hours played because they r not competitive like csgo dota etc, but are still sold a lot, and are not usually compatible with Linux. Although I know u can run Windows games on Linux with some fidgeting with Wine
+rusins time played is different from the amount of games available of Linux compared to windows. The most popular and most played games (on Steam so excluding LoL) expertly have Linux compatibility, but most games do not. AAA games for example will not be on that list for most hours played because they r not competitive like csgo dota etc, but are still sold a lot, and are not usually compatible with Linux. Although I know u can run Windows games on Linux with some fidgeting with Wine
If today was 2012 I would say that this is Ebay scam and not a real SSD :D
now we have 1TB nvmes in our consoles
I'm not a pc expert but hear me out. RAID 0 drives run quicker cause data can be transferred over 2 SATA cables using 2 data buses at once. so theoretically could you have 1 2.5" ssd with 2 SATA ports to double its speed if the Ssd had an advanced controller on board
I neeeeeed it....
I prefer to have 100TB hdd with that price
Who sells a 100TB hdd? A RAID sure, but a single disk? I don't think so...
I meant as a total hhd not single one
+amj047 yes, Seagate make a 100 tb hdd archive for stuff like file servers
SSD last longer. As a HDD can break down. As it is still a moving disk. SSD have no moving parts.
Qardo yes I get that but archive drives are intended for what the name implies and to even get 1 tb of space on a ssd it would be the size of a normal drive and cost twice as much. Hell linus uses them in some of his servers. Yes I know whonnock server is ssd but if you want capacity over speed the hard disk it is. And ssds are verrrrryy expensive. For the cost of 100tb of ssd space it would cost about 40,000. Not to mention you would have to run the drives in RAID and for about 38 thousand less you can have 100 tb! I've had my WD green for about 8 years and is still working juuuust fine(I don't think western digital makes green drives anymore)not to mention the constant abuse of being shifted from place to place. I am faithful to hard drives and keep ssds to gaming and utility options
It's 2019 and we now have 7.2tb ssds for the same price
Awesome. I saw on your site you're currently looking for video editors. If I was in your area I would definitely apply for the job, but I am in Ontario. I like your show, keep the great episodes coming!
Damn, my SSD is only 240GB.
be happy, i dont even have one xD
Damn, my 2 m.2 nvmes are 1tb each. My SSD is 2tb. And my HDD is 16tb.
@@TheGauges420 2x 2TB nvme, 1x 4TB sata SSD
Though the speed inscrease of nvme over sata ssd is quite unnoticable, even at 3500/3000mbps speeds.
i dont know why they dont make an ssd the size of a normal hard drive to increase its storage my ssd sits in my hdd drive bays anyway so its not like i dont have the room for one that big.
+ellswtf laptops and smaller pcs
+One Chance China But why not make both 3.5 and 2.5 inch drives? 3.5 for desktops and 2.5 for laptops.
From my pov, it's not really about the space in which you put the SSD, you can get 128 gb usbs, which aren't even that big (I know they run at low speeds) so it's probably just because it's a standard, and they don't want to sell 'bigger' drives (3.5") if what most people need and want is the 2.5" with the possibility of using it in a laptop.
+ellswtf Probably bc the SSD would have a 1/4th of the rated warrenty time. The problem is to add more space you have to either $$$$ the cells for the same space, or add more cells for cheap and a larger factor. Problem with that is the cells die. The more you have, the faster that is, and the more random it is you lose data. So it's not worth increasing risk in this case.
Evolution, bitch
wtf lol 3,75 tb.... sick, never have to worry about updates or drive running full.
Replace "never" with "several years"
yea but by that time you ve already saved enough money to get new shit. so till then you never have to worry.
Well, I have a 3Tb hdd for five years now, and so far only 700Gb occupied.
I'm here from 8TB SSD that they showcased here.. How long we've come along from 2.5' SSD to have 4TB of capacity.. To NVMe with 8TB capacity.. Quite insane..
You say most game's loading times aren't any faster on faster storage
I say my 500 gb spinning hard drive is almost certainly a bottleneck
Why not just buy 4 1tb ssds and save a ton of cash?
Cuz life
+About 46 T-Rexes so you can get four of these and future-proof your pc for 100 years XD
+About 47 T-Rexes You would need to run Raid-0 to reach the same amount of space, it's personally what I do with my setup, but if this is for server / high availability environements, it won't work. Raid-5 with 3x2 or 5x1TB would do it.
+Jill Chan
Yet 4 times the speed.
But that's not how RAID 0 works, you don't even get 2x scaling going from 1 to 2 drives in RAID 0. And you get massive diminishing returns.
Yo Linus! So uh, do you have a spare SSD or something? I'm hardly living off my 60Gb HDD :(
a 1tb hdd costs like $40...cmon stop begging
Its 90NZD here = 57USD. I mean I could get one but I doubt it would even fit in my case
No way my 250gb ssd was like $80....
60GB *HDD*?! They don't even make those anymore. How long have you had that thing?
+Amusix What kind of case do you own that can't even fit a 3.5 " drive...
2019 Samsung 860 4tb SSD is available on amazon for only £312 on sale
4 Years Later: 100TB SSD!
its 2020, no 100tb ssd but we do have a global pandemic
@@carsonbreezy431 There's an SSD called the exadrive with a 100tb capacity. It costs $40,000. It is real. It is a 3.5 inch SSD.
my whole computer costs less than this ssd
cant wait to watch this in 2020
2 years left.
its not 3.84 terabytes .A terabyte is 1024 gb not 1000 so the sad is actually 3.75 terabytes.
No it is one thousand, your talking about Gibibits to Tebibits.
L
wrecked
Marius Tancredi Thx
+Smile! Well you're half-right.
A terabyte can be defined as either 1,000,000,000,000 bytes, or 1,099,511,627,776 bytes. (Though to avoid confusion, I believe it should always be 1,000,000,000,000.)
A tebibyte is always 1,099,511,627,776 bytes.
This is the difference between metric and metric-binary.
Metric representations are much more common, but metric-binary are properly representative of the way such technologies actually work.
As a result, most metric size estimates are rounded anyway.
I SEXUALLY IDENTIFY AS AN ATTACK HELICOPTER
DogeGaming I identify as a 4 figure storage drive
I’m a Hard Drive
I sexually identify as a lamborghini aventador SVJ
I have 80gb hard drive :( lmao
Lol i feel you
+IBLEEDBLUE Oh my.
dude a 1tb costs like $40...
+IBLEEDBLUE I have a laptop drive in my closet that is 20Gb
lol i have 60gb samsung hdd
You have not been paying attention. Last year I sold an enterprise storage system with 4 shelves of 1.6TB SSD's. That is 96 SSD's on a single system. The 3.8TB version was available by Christmas as well! I could have offeren 48 of these in that same system.
The 16Tb one was released. This is obsolete XD
I'm still on HD era hahaha
i have a 320GB HD my pc cries every time when i boot up the system
i'mme i'mmme same hahahah
I used to have a 70 GB HDD from 2006 or so. I recently bought an SSD though and all is well.
Myrl Hex how did you survive man thats barely enough for the system and 1 (smaller) game
i'mme i'mmme I didn't really play games, but programming was a pain too, and anime.
Fast forward in 2019 and i laugh at this video
Thanks Roccat, we love these kinds of giveaways, you should do more of them cuz they're freakin awsome
meanwhile Im steaming on a 500 mb iPod touch.
don't worry I'm on Samsung Galaxy s2 with no storage for notes
Remember when RUclips used to look like this 📺
Time to sell a kidney
imagine the amount porn you can put in..
i meant games
Roronoa Zoro
A lot
hey thanks rocket we love this kind of giveaways, you should do more of them because they are freakin' awesome
When one SSD is 4 times more expensive than your whole setup...
Damir Petrović Guilty as charged !
in 5 years time this video will look so ridiculous! XD
already does
Great prediction
That is only 3.75 TB not 3.84
well but it is still 3.84 million megabytes :D Oh wait, there's kb and bytes. fuck that nevermind.
Windows does this with pretty much any storage drive
Rony McJony Windows sometimes uses TiB instead of TB which TiB != TB with TiB a larger measurement
Love it! Be for we know it LTT will have a review out on a consumer value 3.8 TB SSD.
LOL, currently $1,299.99 on Amazon almost three years later
Still a bit more than the computer I built :/
Hey thanks Roccat we love these kinds of giveaways you should more of them because they're freacking awesome!
Nice review... I just bought my first SSD. awesome.
Do they come cordless?
Hey Rocket! Thanks for doing these giveaways, you should totally do more because I'm freaking awesome
5 years later and we have 4tb nvme drives and 20+ Tb ssd drives, fuhgeddaboutit
Why bitch about cost? In 1980 I bought a 10Mb Winchester drive for $1650, that's about 5k of your greenbacks in today's currency. It, like this, was cutting edge, new technology, if you want it, you have to pay for it, or hang around a few years until 3.84Tb SSD's are $50.
I'm sporting an Intel 910 PCI-e SSD from 2012, 400GB. It was $1900 new but I got it new for 160€ in 2014. There was a larger 800GB one that was like $3500. It was their top of the line server part, this 4 years younger one has over 9 times more space for not much more and in 2" formfactor! I just checked, 4tb SSD's are less than 400 now! Amazing how technology advances.
Not exactly fair from a cost comparison, but modern all flash arrays, even when removing technologies like de-duplication and compression (that usually do not offer much when it comes to already optimised multimedia files) offer in excess of 1.5PB of persistent flash capacity (that perform up to 4x faster than the Samsung SSD in this video) within a single rack. If adding capacity optimisation, even a modest 2:1 using de-duplication and (more likely) compression, this equates to more than 3PB of persistent flash capacity. Some solutions can offer even denser solutions, but usually at approximately the same performance is this SSD.
Can someone explain why not just buy a SAN with 15K SAS drives?? I know they make them with SSD's now but you get more storage per $ with the SAS drives (and I would guess larger life span too).
The most significant savings in a enterprise data center would be electricity. By itself it could be payback in a couple of years. The savings in labor & logistics for replacing a fail hard drives is also not trivial. There is a cost for retrofitting old servers with new drive sled bays, but with no spinning disk vibration to deal with, you could just literally just throw a rubber band on a stack.
Hey, thanks roccat we love these kinds of giveaways. You should do more of them cause they're awesome.
This might be a dumb question and i have done zero research on it: Why dont they make 3.5 inch ssds that fit in a typical desktop hard drive spot?
I think it would be super expensive.
I want this. Not because I need 4tb of solid-state when my 2tb 850 is enough...but because more storage means the writes are distributed more, and increases endurance. I'm curious to how much writing this can handle.
I have a 845DC EVO (PM853 - the last gen) and that SSD works very well in my W541 mobile workstation. Actually considering this drive.
But I bought my Samsung 500gb ssd for $200 CAD, so like 57 cents USD. Anyways, 500gb X 4 = 2TB. And $200 CAD X 4 = $800, or like $720US. So how is it $2200 US for 3.4TB? Because it only takes up one drive bay Or..? Is that really worth the insane price?
It's because Moore's law is starting to slow down. 14nm is the minimum size for consumer transistors right now, and the minimum size ever likely is going to be around 5nm. It's closed, huh? The closer you get to to atomic scale, the more heat that builds up due to electron tunneling. Fixing these problems are much harder, and soon there will be no way to make it smaller without the entire circuit, well, melt.
I’m sure this is a stupid question, but why is there not a 3,5’’ ssd??
How time flies. Now 4TB isn't anything too out of the ordinary and ltt has already reviewed a 100tb SSD
How does he handle the pcb's, cpu's, etc. without damaging them? Does he not worry about static electricity?
and to think that now it's going for about $850 or so (give or take) on amazon.. yeah, get it now if you can.. cause apparently it's on sale from around $1150 usual price.
The drive space advantage would be a legitimate factor except that if you want to use such tiny drives in such a way as to actually exploit their small size, then you'd need different drive-sleds (nearly custom), and MUCH more expensive raid/controllers in each one.
Pretty cool! about 15 TB of storage in the physical space of a typical 3.5" Hard drive! Now the big question, heat load on the server room? Some SSDs run very cool, others are horrendously HOT!
I bought from Fry's $170 for 480 GB m.2. Usual price $190.
480 x 8 = 3.84 TB = $170 x 8 = $1360.
2TB of SATA NAND for $1000usd three years ago... a couple of months ago I bought a 1TB NVMe SSD for $200 Aussie... prices REALLY have dropped over the past couple years...
It is 57 cents per gigabyte (0.57$)
It isn't comparable to something like a Seagate 8TB V2 Archive Drive as cost per gigabyte for that thing is 2 cents (0.02$) as the Archive Drive is magnetic media.