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@@franzaepinus2498Crete was part of the Venetian between 1205 - 1669 but after the succesfull revolution and treaty of Alexi Kalergi in 1299, Crete was semi independent, Cretan had their own rights and treated as equals.
for someone that studies language I'm very surprised you use Cypriot flag with Greek. Cyprus has its own dialect/language which to a greek a huge amount is not understood. most Cypriots speak greek to a high level as it is taught from school. a lot like how Arabic is taught in Morocco, yet in reality we have our own ancient language. most Cypriots don't speak it these days as its seen as peasant-like and the language has almost been lost and will be in the near future, most of the old generation speak it from villages.
I'm from Genoa, a 3000 years old city which, like Venice, had deep ties with Greece for 2000 years. I'm so proud and also SHOCKED that literally all of these words are closer between Genoese and Greek than they are between Genoese and our Venician brothers who are ITALIANS like us!! As a Genoese, as an Italian and as a linguist, you absolutely made my day. Efharisto αδελφός! Grassie veci!
This is really cool. Thank you for making this video because many people think Venetian is just an Italian dialect, but it's not. In fact, up until the 19th century Venetian has a very important status, during the time of Republic of Venice it was the official language and people spoke Venetian in many parts of Croatia, Slovenia, Albania, Greece and Cyprus.
False info. The people who name themselves Greek, are in reality people of Mid and East Türkiye and they are Rum. Ancient Greeks an extinct group about 2500 years ago. Greece is a vassal proxy project state made using Rums in the core. Rest is indoctrination. Not from Zakyntos but most perhaps this guy is from Kayseri, Nevşehir, Trabzon,Tokat or Gümüşhane.
Most of these words are Latin words which came into Greek due to coexistence. Also note the Venice was founded by Byzantine Greeks, who later latinized their last names
@@sciencecathedral4145 no, Venice wasn't found by Byzantine Greeks but by local Italic-Venetic people from Aquileia, in nowadays Friuli region. They just remained under the authority of the Eastern Roman Empire for centuries after Belisarius capture back Italy from the Goths
Yayy, please keep the Greek ones coming. They're my favourite :) That was a great selection of words. I learnt some new ones and enjoyed playing along for the rest!
😅😅😅 se gomo anelejta karrige ine katharo albaniko pu paj na pi ( ka rri) eqi pu kathese eno sti klosa su dhen eqi noimaqe i bizanti ine katharo albaniki long ilithje zite sto psema
@@arberilir3989otan les albanika enois latinika? ta albanika einai ena anamikto apo latinika ellinika turkika slavika.. akome kai germanika riksate mes sti salata .. auspuh banknote bormashin😂
Η λέξη έδρα προέρχεται από την αρχαία ελληνική ἕδρα, που σημαίνει κάθισμα, θέση, βάση, και συμβολίζει την θέση εξουσίας ενός επισκόπου από την εποχή ακόμη του πρώιμου χριστιανισμού. Αυτό το συμβολικό κάθισμα είναι επίσης γνωστό ως καθέδρα.@@highsociety5
English is their aspiring mother language, especially for the Greeks. The greeks consider Greek to be too Balkan and they speak mixed greek and English slowly getting away with Greek. By adopting english they feel adnvanced and europeans. The epitome of degeneration. For example Michael said "trimaro to moustaki..." Trimaro!!! Really? From the...english trim. In proper greek is "peripoioume-περιποιούμε" tend to my mustache..." What Michael didn't explain was that he (and I too) is from the 7islands. The dialect of the 7islands is called Veneto after being part of the venetian state for centuries. The flag of the 7islands, which were a separate state before uniting -great mistake- with the athenian state is the Venice winged lion in blue not red though. The winged lion itself isn't Venetian but is the symbol of Saint Mark in Alexandria.
Roda Rota in Albanian...Cassea Casa in Albanian...fanella ugualle in albanese...vida uguale vite...o my good...this its oll Albanian..moustsce...same Albanian..cuverta in albanese uguale per coperta...ingeo ngrire in Albania..olmoust the same
Venice lost a needle Εχασε η βενετια βελονι Venezia ha perso un ago... This old Greek saying of Byzantine origin is used to describe a loss of minimal importance, which is not decisive. Another version is "Don't let Venice lose a needle"
Actually , veloni (needle), meant a tailor. As venetian tailors where rare and famous for their skill and art. The meaning of the phrase was positive negative. Like "as if.... Venetia lost a tailor".
The Latin word for a beard, barba come from the word barbarian (Barbados an Berber in north Africa), which in turn forms the Latin adjective barbatus, meaning 'bearded'. This was because the barbarians had long hair and beards, while the Greeks and Romans had short hair and shaved faces. Barbas the old man with beards
I´m a native Spanish speaker and i even tho our language is closser to italian i like Greek language way more, currently i´m learning Biblical Greek (The original language of the entire new testament) and i wish more people to learn Greek nowdays, congratulations for your video, might the lord bless you 🇨🇾 🇬🇷 😊
It might have come both ways, from Venetian through its ruling of parts of Montenegro in the past, or through the Byzantine culture or Orthodoxy as Serbs and Greeks are both Orthodox.
The personal table fork probably originated in the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire, and use spread to the Middle East during the first millennium CE and then to southern Europe. In northern Europe its use spread in the 18th century, while in North America it began to be widely used in the 19th century.
The similarities between these two languages testify the strong political and cultural connections between greeks and venetians, as early as the early byzantine era.
A nice take on the similarities between languages, but unfortunately it was the opposite in real life. They were nemesis in middle ages, Venetians even sacked Constantinople in a crusade.
@@SrConstantinoplaThey did, but they fought later against Ottomans and Greeks sided with them, because they were Christians. There is a huge Greek community in Venice, Greek stratioti figh for Venice, Byzantine Nobles keep their titles in Venetian Greek parts etc
@@SrConstantinopla Byzantium and Venice has a close relationship up until the 11 century when the Kommenoi started giving the Venetians huge trade concessions in return for naval support.
Ωραιω! Μου αρεσει .How I love Greek language. Roda=rueda kathe savvato=cada sábado similarities with Spanish. Hmm barbas mean beards in Spanish. Pasarela same, fashion show, Greetings from Argentina Γεια Σας!
The Latin word for a beard, barba come from the word barbarian (Barbados an Berber in north Africa), which in turn forms the Latin adjective barbatus, meaning 'bearded'. This was because the barbarians had long hair and beards, while the Greeks and Romans had short hair and shaved faces
I finally discovered where the word "flanelă" comes in Romanian (my native language). It has been bothering me for decades, since I first heard it. Thank you
As a result of Venetian rule over many parts of Greece during the centuries, many Venetian and in general, Italian words still used in Modern Greek language.
Rum = Citizens of Eastern Roman state of many diverse ethnic backgrounds and from many different language backgrounds. Greek is a fake produced id. You are Rum, if you are Greek then Italşans are Etrusk, Turks are Hittites . Greeks extinct in history about 2500 years ago @@angrybirdo
Fascinating video. Both sides of my family are from regions that were controlled by Venice at various points in time (Cycladic islands and Peleponese). Even during the Ottoman period Venetian landlords remained in power in a tribute system in some areas. So much Venetian architecture in Greece today, even the Acropolis used to have Venetian fortifications and towers until they were taken down after Greek independence. There was a diaspora in Venice and even a Greek publishing house. Thank you to the guests and thank you Bahador from a fellow Torontonian. Go Jays!
@@KanenasAnyparktos why albanians are always spamming Greek posts or anything related to Greece? I've seen this quite often and used to like albanians but now I have totally changed my opinion. So petty and insecure
😂😂allways a fart from the mouth of albanians in everything greek will be around...you got to ask for help as a nation from good psycologist...huge complex!!its not our fault if you need an identity that you dont have...make your own and stop trying to steal other peoples history@@KanenasAnyparktos
Thank you for this awesome video. The Venetian rule in the Ionian islands lasted for several hundred years. It has left a lasting legacy. It's interesting to see it in action, it's almost like reliving the history.
Venetians called the island of Kythera "Cerigo" -they owned it for a long time. A Greek friend of mine who was from this island, on a trip to Venice, discovered a street called Cerigo there. Also the noble Emo family who owned a beautiful villa and estate on the Venetian mainland (Rovigo area) were of Greek descent - Villa Emo was sold about a decade ago. I presume the name "Emo" is related to the Greek word "haemus" which means blood if I'm not mistaken or the Haemus mountains?
Venetian has had an impact on Modern Standard Greek in general. It may have to do with the fact that MSG is actually partly based on the Ionian Islands dialect (and partly on the Peloponnese).
Why you spend time with albanian,up to 1991 90,%of them they was an alphabet, after 30 years they have discovered everything,the most they have discovered is the drugs,and also that earth is round
All of that thanks to the 13 centuries of trade, exchanges , moves , people sharing, political influences, dominions, trade free zones of the mighty " Serenissima" Republic of Venice from the upper Adriatic coastline to the istrian and Dalmatians towns to Crete, Cyprus to Izmir and Istanbul/ Costantinopole . What an amazing cultural heritage. Central and eastern Mediterrean people strong relationship.
We use fanila in Turkish too actually (borrowed). We use it to mean undershirt exclusively. Like those white ones that your dad wears. Also we borrowed vida, screw or bolt.
@@valmir1975 Gtfo Albo.You don't even have alphabet , at first you wrote on Greek and the at Latin.Even now your alphabet comes from Latin one , which comes from Greek.The word fanella albo is proto-indoeuropean , if your word has anything to do with it ,it's because YOU took the loan , not the opposite as you with audacity claim
@@valmir1975It's from standard Italian "flanella", which they borrowed from the French "flanelle". Ultimately the word seems to have a Gaulish/Celtic etymology. But I guess it is easier to just assume that everything is originally albanian than to actually start thinking.
@BahadorAlast when you're able, compare local Corfu or Cephalonia(n) dialects with Italian, or local Italian dialects maybe. For example, in Corfu, aunt was called Tsia or Gia which is similar to Italian.
Since Zakynthos (Zante) was a Venetian colony I'd expect to have closer ties with Venetian from us in northern mainland Greece. I was wrong! We use every single word mentioned in this video and also understood as much as our Zakynthian friend did. Note: Barbas is used commonly today, but it's either negative or used when you are in a very familiar environment. Fanela is not only used for an under shirt, but also for sport teams shirts. (I thought both words were of Turkish origin)
@@ΖωζωΙωσηφιδου vera or veroredi chiama il bracciale nel giorno della primavera ...quando si festeggia il primo giorno della primavera c'è un abitudine di mettere certi bracciali specifici solo per questo giorno...si chiamano verore...
Because Venetian navies and merchants dominated the Eastern Mediterranean for many centuries, may we assume that many of the common words came to the Greeks in this way as opposed to having Indo-European roots?
Hi, Bahador. Can you please make a video on similarities between Khmer and Vietnamese. Can you also please make a video on similarities between Khmer and Thai. Thank you very much.
I didn't recognize any words from Greek (I know Koine NT Greek) until you got to sentences. I recognized some words like "roda" from other Romance languages.
They’re all loan words from Italian. If you studied Ancient Greek you shouldn’t have recognised any of them- unless of course as you said you recognised them from another Romance language
@user-bc5kq5op8f yes, with some words is preferred to use the Latin version. Like umbrella, we use ομπρέλα (obrela) but the original greek word is αλεξιβρόχιο (alexivrohio)
Somewhere in south Italy there is a village called Greci i assume is greek, and below it says: .......Mire se erdhet ne katund.... What does that mean?
It means “welcome to the village” (or, rather, “community”), in Arbëreshë, the local dialect of medieval Albanian origin. Until the late 19th century, the Arbëreshë in Southern Italy (they had come there 500 years ago from Southern Albanian communities in Greece) were often confusingly called “Greci”, since language wasn’t considered the main criterion for national identity. Piana degli Albanesi, near Palermo, was called Piana dei Greci for the same reason until WW2 (when politics made it suddenly very important to distinguish between the two languages in Italy).
τζογος στα ελληνικα επισης σημαινει και το διακενο μεταξυ αντικειμενων , αν και περισοτερο την λεξη την χρησιμοποιουν μηχανικοι αυτοκινητων πχ αν εχει τζογο το τιμονι του αυτοκινητου ή οι βαλβιδες της κεγαλης
I am Greek from Cyprus, but my last name is Pieri. Not really a common Greek surname. I understand the Veneitians ruled Cyprus in the middle ages and that the surname originates from Venice. Oddly, enough it was inspired by the Greek name for Peter. So the culture all comes full circle.
Ricordo quando Aristotele arrivò ad Atene dalla Macedonia, Platone disse ai suoi discepoli: "Ma da dove l'è questo chi, facciamogli il trucco della karekla"
In English use the word Fracas ! when two people get in a shouting match and start pushing each other but it doesn't quite become a full blown punch up !
Barba in Greek from the islands is your non-blood uncle. My mother's sister is my Thia (aunt) but my aunt's husband is my Barba. My mother's brother is my Thio. I would not refer to him as Barba because my Thio is blood related. Sometimes they interchange the two. But if someone says that an uncle was a barba that's what I would understand. A non blood uncle.
Sono greca.. tanti anni fa, avendo visitato la isola di Corfu', ho sentito dire da una casalinga dell' isola , la frase: "ΑΣΕ ΤΟ ΠΑΣΤΙΤΣΙΟ ΣΤΟ ΦΟΥΡΝΟ ΝΑ ΚΟΥΣΟΥΜΑΡΕΙ"🥰 " " lascia Ιl pasticcio( pasta al forno) al forno a..." consumare " i suoi liquidi) Αnche se gia' parlavo l' italiano.mi era difficile capire il significato dell' ultima parola😍 Ho dovuto chiedere spiegazioni🤩
I want to ask you something ... A mountza is the most traditional gesture of insult among Greeks. It consists of extending and spreading all fingers of the hand and presenting the palm towards the face of the person to be insulted with a forward motion. It is often coupled with να, ορίστε, or πάρτα and swear words. Do you have the same gesture in Turkey ?
In Italy to make jokes on personal names is not very polite. My question was on a word used in traditional Venitian dialect, but please save me from another joke, thanks.
@@giuseppefornari5777😂😂 in italy always someting is considered offensive.. why you think it was meant as a joke? cause i put the smileys on? what you want me know, to say sorry?
@@giuseppefornari5777i never meant to make a joke though.. 😭i was just happy to see a familiar word..thats all.. i mean i can make jokes about you know, but i wont do it?😉
In Albanian language, there is two dialects one is called Tosk and the other one Geg And in both of this dialects you find all this words with exactly the same meaning interesting!
@@southepirote7676 I said MOST. Greek gets most of its foreign loanwords from Italian languages . Turkish comes next. Then Latin. Next French. Next English and then a small numbers of foreign words come from several other languages. Albanian and Slavic languages are about 1% of the words of foreign origin in the Greek language.
@@southepirote7676 There is no such thing as albanian language. Some thousants of loanwords from around an area cant consist a language. Especially without alphabet
@@GioBall Sorry, Greek is based on Albanian language whether you like it or not 🤷♂ John Wilkes The lands between Adriatic and Danube were inhabited by a people called Illyrian. When the Albanian language will be well studied and when its oral traditions will be exhumed, then many of Homers works will be revisited and some of them will need to be corrected. Herodotus had no idea that the names of the Heroes of Homers work were clearly in the Pelasgian language. Even Homers own name can be tracked back to the Albanian language : Good and in the form Imiros means good poetry. In the Albanian language it is : Agamenon , He - ge-mendon, he who thinks , Ajax that Bloodsucker ,bloodsucker: Priamos , Mothers Son,mothers son and with an ironic meaning Son of the Earth, of the Country: Achilles , of heaven one descended from heaven: Odysseus of the Road the traveler the one who walks: Ithaka, i thak - idhnak: Droilos,Droili (os) one who fears,a coward .Many more could be added to this list. Its is not surprising if people who have studied the Albanian language say that this is the original language of Homer and that the Greeks took from the Pelasgian poets most of the songs of valor and heroines. They built big walls that are called cyclopean and for which Prof.Pokok says they were built long before Homers Greeks existed. From this strong prehistoric race only the Albanians remained. Only later was it realized that the Pelasgian were the old Illyrians , the first Indo-European branch, whose empire stretched from Asia minor to the Ionian and Adriatic. From the studies of young writers, like Proff. Max Mueller and Proff, POT, in the Albanian language this origin became stable. These Illyrians who still live in Albanian as Toska, Toscana, Etruscan. It is in vain to look for the gods of Greece in the etymology of her language. In the Albanian language these are very clear and their meanings are very correct. for example , Chaos emptiness, space Erebus, son of Chaos, is er-het-os, made dark: Uranos is I-Vran-os, that is, the fairy of the clodus, the Clodus: Zeus, Zaa, Zee, Zot-God, voice of lighting: Athena is the Spoken , by speaking the word: Nemesis, nemes, that is, nam, Devils call: Muse, Mosois, is the Teacher: Venus means close to the day,the dawn. George Fred Williams wrote in 1914 : If we go back to prehistory, before the Homeric rhapsodes were sung to the gods and mythological heroes, before the Greek language was written, there lived a people known as the Pelasgians. Albanians are the only ones who have come to this day from this powerful prehistoric race.Only in recent years has it been determined that the Pelasgians were the Ancient Ilyrians.... These Illyrians also went to Italy under the name Toska, as they are still called in Albania, while in Italy they remained as Toska, Tuscan Etruscan.
Incredibile che barba in veneto voglia dire zio xD Vabbè, se è per questo, noi siciliani abbiamo babbu che nella nostra lingua vuol dire stupido, anziché padre 😂
In standard Albanian pirun, karrige, rrotë, fanellë, vidë, mustaqe, kuvertë mean respectively fork, chair, wheel, shirt/cloth/fabric, screw, moustache, blanket. I've been told that in Venetian got means water glass which in Albanian would be gotë...
@@terveronthere is NO standard albanian language.. tosc and gheg is different .. and albanians from different regions can not understand each other.. i have seen the videos on arberesh tv, dont worry😉
Raja are the turk-albanians at the present as allies of the turks... The Greeks had the byzantine empire..... The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters
Sono Veneta. E la lingua Veneta non è uguale in tutto il Veneto. Vocaboli e cadenze cambiano da città a città, da provincia a provincia. E non hanno nulla in comune con l' italiano
venetian colony in ottoman vassal (aka ionistan/yunanistan aka modern Greece) before the modification of it's modern name used to be inhabbited by turx and AIbanians who now have been converted in to greekism aka orthodoxy.
@@darladallddoria143 Greeks or Gayreeks because Greece did not exist is new born country with fake history,identity and with technical ecclesiastical language made in Russia and German king Otto and don't forget the present population of modern Greece is Ottoman Orthodox,Albanian Cham Suliot,Romali,Jewish etc etc so nothing Gayreeks.
He means Venetian words. Italian is another language. At the same time, the Byzantine Empire conditioned many Venetian words. For example, Venice is the only city in Italy where the bishop is called patriarch.
@@redemptousyes less than 100 years but it was the Venitians that fought with Ottomans before Cyprus was fallen and Marc Antonio Bragadin is a local hero. But talking for centuries of influence I was referring to 3 centuries of Lusignans the French who actually created Cyprus Kingdom. As is well known French and Italian are sharing lots of words, so for locals sounded the same.
Greek language is 60% latin, 20% Albanian, 10% Turkish and 10% Slavic. Greeks don't actually originate from Greece but in fact originate from Caucasus somewhere in Georgia.
The title of this video is methodologically misleading. These are not true similarities between Greek and Venetian. These are just Venetian/Italian words into Greek. The only exception to this is "karekla" which comes from the Greek "cathedra". It's like taking Greek words used in English and then saying "similarities between English and Greek".
Ok guys forget about venetian ans greek and all that. English English the smartest technology ever invented. Without it you couldnt even orser coffee let alone do this video
Ma sì, dimentichiamo che la Grecia è la culla della democrazia, della filosofia, della matematica, della letteratura, delle olimpiadi, dell'astronomia ecc, buttiamo tutto a mare.
Nice program you make but why you don't make more research why they have similar word. The reason why that in 15th century North Albanian were occupied by venitians and by death of Gjergje Kastrioti Skendërbeu the Albanian national heroe ottomans occupied Albania and venitians toke alot of Albanians there and in greece are 80% Albanian which they call Arvanitas that's why they have same words
@dillinger445 haha it is so funny when people don't know nothing about Albanian history and they judge you by the surname, yes my surname is Ahmeti and I'm proud of being myslim but I'm even prouder being ALBANIAN, in Albania our first religion it is Albanian then we have our faith but over all we don't care what religion we are we are Albanians blood first then religion. Yes our national heroe was title as Christian Knight but those Christians let him down many time and as much as he fought and killed ottoman myslims he did kill catholics Christians too. Go and learn about Albanian and their history language and culture then you talk and don't make yourself a fool
@@shpetimahmeti8008 its all good plako ...paqen🙌.. be proud of it, if it brings you inner peace... but also mention ali pascha he was your hero too.. without him you wouldn't be able to claim epirus😉 the ottomans gave him the pashalik of yanina
The Chams were an ethnic Albanian community that formerly inhabited the area of Thesprotia, part of the modern northwest Greece (south part of Epirus). Most of them were expelled into Albania through government-supported ethnic cleansing[40] at the end of World War II. Few survivors still live in Arta, Preveza and Janina.
You forgot to mention that the albanians living in this part of Epirus, we're originally a medieval migration into Greek lands, been part of Greece allied with the invasive Italian fascist regime against their own country, attack Greek of the area and killed many. The audacity of modern albanians is immense. We should have never opened our borders to house you when you needed support unkind snakes!
The chams and turk-albanians are allies with turks... The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters
Facts about the Origins of the Modern Greek State . 1. The first King of Greece is the Bavarian Prince Otto 2 The Typical Greek of the time spoke Arvanite a language very closely related to Albanian so it is a Albanian dialect, 3 The national costumes of Greek is the Albanian Fustanella 4 The national Dance of the Greek independence is the Albanian Chamiko The Dance of the Chams /Came -a subgroup of Albanians in Greece. 5 Athens was made up of 8000 houses where most of the Inhabitants were Albanians -Helene Glykatzi-Ahrweiler. 6 The majority of Greek soldiers spoke in Albanian to one another Parnassos Magazine. History of The Greek flag in 1822 Greece adopts this flag its naval ensign. in 1828 in battle of Navarino Britain liberated Greece from Turks. In 1978 same flag becomes Greek national flag. Greek national Flag is British Colonial Blue Ensign Flag. Theodor Momsen : The survivors of the Illyrians are the Albanians. Kelly Miller : The Balkan battlefield is exactly the center of world History. Wadham Peacok : The man who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians. Nikolla Jorga : The Albanians people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe. Joseph Salinger : The Epirotic language of the past is the Albanian language of Today. Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenous who during all the agitations managed to save their character and even emphasized it.They resisted on Romans attacks and survived the slavic migrations. Edith Durham They are strewn with the wreckage of dead Empires past powers only the Albanian gos on forever. Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanian / Skipetar. Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language. Alphons de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked .This is the Land of Heroes of all time .Homer found there Achilles the Greeks the Alexander the Great.Turks found Scanderbeg people these of the same race the same Blood. Mauricio Druon : Albanians belong to the Nations who are older then the History.and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in the Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Ilyrians. Edwin Pears : Albanians are the Descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan Race.Even the word Aryan in their language means pure Gold. Maximilian Lambretz : The true History of the Humanity will be written only when it will be written with participation of Albanians. Jovan Cvijic : South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians. Edwin Jacues : Illyrians or Albanians those tireless sons, were warriors of the Albania ethnic. Ancestors of Achilles , Philip II,Alexander the Great and Pyrros of Epirus.Johan Georg von Hahn : The Albanian derives from Illyrians and the Illyrians from Pelasgian one. Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indigenous people. General Niox : Albanians are of Pelasgian origin they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races. Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe. Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gods of the mountains from very ancient times. They are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia, no other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians. Lord Byron : Albanians with their customs make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the most beautiful human race exists courage, stronger than their strongholds. Konstandin Paparigopuolos : Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian Race. Gustav Meyer Albanians are the young Illyrians and the Illyrians are the descendants of Pellazgi. Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : If you want to discover the History before Christ and the science at that time , you have to learn the Albanian language. Strabo : Between Greece , Thrace and Danube are the Tribes of Epirots , Macedonians and Illyrians.
The people who live in so called Greece today used to be called "Romej" during Byzantine Empire and "Raja" during Ottoman Empire times (except the Arvanitas who used to be called always by their name like "Albani", "Arbanoi", etc.) and the name "Greece" never existed during Byzantine times. During Ottoman times in the Balkans, after the big powers pushed for an uprising in the place that today is called "Greece", an independent country was formed in 1821-1832. The majority of the population there was of Arvanitas (and Chameria) stock, they also were the backbone of the uprising for independence from the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the minority population was of Slav, Turks and Aromanian stock. After the gain of independence the place was so divided, and with a prolonged civil war that a real country could not be formed. Fearing the disintegration of the place after Ottomans left (and possibility of a return of the Ottomans), Prince Otto of Germany was brought in by European powers to clear the mess and do nation - building there. He was proclaimed King of the place by big powers and given plenipotentiary powers. The Price Otto royal family in Germany happen to be an admirer of the ancient civilizations, one of them being the extinct ancient Greek civilization, traces and archeological findings of which are also seen in that region called today "Greece" as well. Being an ancient history romantic and buff, Otto came up with the idea, that the only way to keep the place together and for a chance to build a country there, was to adopt/impose some kind of neutral/foreign ancient language and culture for all people living in that place, that will make possible for the people to stick together under one language and culture imposed on them. So with a special royal decree, he proclaimed a version of the ancient Greek (the easier one to be taught and learned by people there in those times) as an official language of the place, and also came up with the new name for the place, calling it with a special royal decree "Greece". Everything else was banned, and the new "country" formed, was ordered to be rebuild anew in resemblance of the old romantic view of the ancient Greek civilization, starting with the buildings, names of people, places, cities and villages, regions, mountains, fields and all were changed to made-up names loaned by the ancient literature of ancient Greek civilization. This of course was associated with money brought by European powers to rebuild. The more people in that place agreed with the change of their true national and ethnic identity and declare themselves artificially "Greeks/Helenes" and adopt to the new order, the more money was to be pouring in. Naturally, the strongest resistance to this artificial and made-up solution, was made by the Arvanitas (and Chameria), but at no avail. It is legendary, the loss by one vote in the Price Otto's Parliament of that time, of Arvanitas proposal to have the Albanian (Arvanite) language as an official language of the place called 'Greece" today, and to call the new country "Arvanoi" (instead of "Greece"). There is plenty of scientific and factual evidence, archival and historical documents, as well as studies and publications by major authors and authorities in the field about as above. One interesting fact here, is that one of the earlier German/Austrian well known historians and scientists of that time, Fallmerayer, alerted Prince Otto and others to this nonsense, of declaring a whole people and place by a name not belonging to them, and injecting an extinct language, culture and civilization on people who had no idea about it and did not belong to it at all. By the way, Fallmerayer, is a banned figure and historian in what is called Greece today. Germany is still paying for the Otto's mistake, even today. It has gotten stuck with the country so called "Greece". It is now forced to pour free money, even today, out of Germany's pocket (through European Union as well) year after year to keep it alive and going, as this "Greece" cannot stand on its own. It is an artificial creation of Prince Otto's fantasy (a "zombie" country so to speak), and the new generations of the Germans and Europeans are continuing to pay the price for it. Moreover, what Prince Otto did back then, is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. He forced inhabitants of a whole region/place (called "Greece" today) to change by force their culture, language, national and ethnic identity to something else that those people were not, so they could artificially change in order to look modern and civilized (like ancient Greeks in Otto's personal view) and possibly be united. And of course, Arvanites and Chams (as the majority population in the region) suffered mostly from this ethnic cleansing. All this revelation, informs another major point: history taught about what today is called Greece, it appears to be taught wrong. People are wrongly taught in schools that today's Greece and its people are the direct descendants of ancient Greeks. Greece and Greeks of today, in some extend, also think they are superior to others just because they are called "Greeks" and their country "Greece" by decree (not by the virtue of the truth). They also seem to believe for some reason, they are entitled to the German and European money being handed out to them. The school textbooks and historiography should change, telling people the truth as it is. And with this, will come many other changes, in the way we see relations with the country called "Greece" today.
The arvanites are not turk-albanians but Greeks.. The Greeks had the byzantine empire and the turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters... The Greeks spoke and speak only the Greek Language The Greeks are not turk-albanians
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes. To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin. Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries. Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek. Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts. In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
The Greek Language is The same Language from the ancient Greek period... The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river and are not Arvanites
@ellinmakedon1216 no man, Greek language is Albanian language, derived from the pelazgian, Doris are albanianas,...wake up, you old albanianas, not Greek Nation, is fake
I'd like to thank my friend Gianluca for helping me organize this video. Gianluca's Instagram page: instagram.com/veneto.da.mar
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I'd like to know more if the Cretean has in common with Venetian
@@franzaepinus2498 Crete was under Ventian rule before Ottomans actually
@@franzaepinus2498Crete was part
of the Venetian between 1205 - 1669 but after the succesfull revolution and treaty of Alexi Kalergi in 1299, Crete was semi independent, Cretan had their own rights and treated as equals.
This is Italian with Venetian accent, bro.
for someone that studies language I'm very surprised you use Cypriot flag with Greek. Cyprus has its own dialect/language which to a greek a huge amount is not understood. most Cypriots speak greek to a high level as it is taught from school. a lot like how Arabic is taught in Morocco, yet in reality we have our own ancient language. most Cypriots don't speak it these days as its seen as peasant-like and the language has almost been lost and will be in the near future, most of the old generation speak it from villages.
I'm from Genoa, a 3000 years old city which, like Venice, had deep ties with Greece for 2000 years.
I'm so proud and also SHOCKED that literally all of these words are closer between Genoese and Greek than they are between Genoese and our Venician brothers who are ITALIANS like us!!
As a Genoese, as an Italian and as a linguist, you absolutely made my day.
Efharisto αδελφός! Grassie veci!
This is really cool. Thank you for making this video because many people think Venetian is just an Italian dialect, but it's not. In fact, up until the 19th century Venetian has a very important status, during the time of Republic of Venice it was the official language and people spoke Venetian in many parts of Croatia, Slovenia, Albania, Greece and Cyprus.
False info. The people who name themselves Greek, are in reality people of Mid and East Türkiye and they are Rum. Ancient Greeks an extinct group about 2500 years ago. Greece is a vassal proxy project state made using Rums in the core. Rest is indoctrination. Not from Zakyntos but most perhaps this guy is from Kayseri, Nevşehir, Trabzon,Tokat or Gümüşhane.
Most of these words are Latin words which came into Greek due to coexistence. Also note the Venice was founded by Byzantine Greeks, who later latinized their last names
@@sciencecathedral4145 no, Venice wasn't found by Byzantine Greeks but by local Italic-Venetic people from Aquileia, in nowadays Friuli region. They just remained under the authority of the Eastern Roman Empire for centuries after Belisarius capture back Italy from the Goths
@@didonegiuliano3547 The city of Venice builded in the 5th Century, it was a Byzantine city. It became independent in the 8th-9th century
@@aokiaoki4238 ma che cazzo dici 🫥
Yayy, please keep the Greek ones coming. They're my favourite :) That was a great selection of words. I learnt some new ones and enjoyed playing along for the rest!
As a greek,your comment felt si good💚( btw,judging by your name,u should be indian)
01:08 The Greek καρέκλα /kaɾékla/ (f.) is a reborrowing:
Ancient Greek καθέδρα /kɐtʰédrɐː/ (f.) = seat, chair > Latin cathedra > Vulgar Latin cadegla > Venetian charegla > Byzantine Greek καρέγκλα /kɐréŋklɐ/ > Modern Greek καρέκλα.
😅😅😅 se gomo anelejta karrige ine katharo albaniko pu paj na pi ( ka rri) eqi pu kathese eno sti klosa su dhen eqi noimaqe i bizanti ine katharo albaniki long ilithje zite sto psema
@@arberilir3989otan les albanika enois latinika? ta albanika einai ena anamikto apo latinika ellinika turkika slavika.. akome kai germanika riksate mes sti salata .. auspuh banknote bormashin😂
@ampoy70 unscramble the word καθέδρα and give the meaning,can you?
Η λέξη έδρα προέρχεται από την αρχαία ελληνική ἕδρα, που σημαίνει κάθισμα, θέση, βάση, και συμβολίζει την θέση εξουσίας ενός επισκόπου από την εποχή ακόμη του πρώιμου χριστιανισμού. Αυτό το συμβολικό κάθισμα είναι επίσης γνωστό ως καθέδρα.@@highsociety5
@@highsociety5 καθ/έδρα? edra is a base and kath comes from down, so a base where you sit down? almost every greek can do that
Their English is excellent, the fact they can explain the subtle differences in another language is impressive
Omg this comment make me so happy, thanks 🙏😅
English is their aspiring mother language, especially for the Greeks. The greeks consider Greek to be too Balkan and they speak mixed greek and English slowly getting away with Greek. By adopting english they feel adnvanced and europeans. The epitome of degeneration. For example Michael said "trimaro to moustaki..." Trimaro!!! Really? From the...english trim. In proper greek is "peripoioume-περιποιούμε" tend to my mustache..." What Michael didn't explain was that he (and I too) is from the 7islands. The dialect of the 7islands is called Veneto after being part of the venetian state for centuries. The flag of the 7islands, which were a separate state before uniting -great mistake- with the athenian state is the Venice winged lion in blue not red though. The winged lion itself isn't Venetian but is the symbol of Saint Mark in Alexandria.
this its Albanian to..piruni ,karrega ,gota ,copare ,vjene, braghe etc
Roda Rota in Albanian...Cassea Casa in Albanian...fanella ugualle in albanese...vida uguale vite...o my good...this its oll Albanian..moustsce...same Albanian..cuverta in albanese uguale per coperta...ingeo ngrire in Albania..olmoust the same
Venice lost a needle Εχασε η βενετια βελονι Venezia ha perso un ago... This old Greek saying of Byzantine origin is used to describe a loss of minimal importance, which is not decisive. Another version is "Don't let Venice lose a needle"
Actually , veloni (needle), meant a tailor. As venetian tailors where rare and famous for their skill and art. The meaning of the phrase was positive negative. Like "as if.... Venetia lost a tailor".
@@nicknick-71exactamente
We say barbas everywhere in Greece, not just the Ionian islands. In Thessaloniki, it's very commonly used.
every single place in greece has at least 1 barba gianni😂
Σωστός ό dillinger 🇬🇷🏛 👍
The Latin word for a beard, barba come from the word barbarian (Barbados an Berber in north Africa), which in turn forms the Latin adjective barbatus, meaning 'bearded'. This was because the barbarians had long hair and beards, while the Greeks and Romans had short hair and shaved faces.
Barbas the old man with beards
@@LondonPower barbier= beardtrimmer 😮... makes total sense
Here in Friuli region, North East of Italy, barba is used for an uncle or an elder man. It was widely used in the Dalmatian Venetian also.
I´m a native Spanish speaker and i even tho our language is closser to italian i like Greek language way more, currently i´m learning Biblical Greek (The original language of the entire new testament) and i wish more people to learn Greek nowdays, congratulations for your video, might the lord bless you 🇨🇾 🇬🇷 😊
Χαιρετισμούς από τήν Αθήνα. 🇬🇷 🏛 👍
In Montenegro for fork says: pirun. And for melon: pipun. From greek: το πιρούνι και το πεπόνη.
Interesting!
It might have come both ways, from Venetian through its ruling of parts of Montenegro in the past, or through the Byzantine culture or Orthodoxy as Serbs and Greeks are both Orthodox.
Wow! Pirun is also in Albanian for fork.
@@leonidas1093 Karekla Chair in Albanian we say Karrika. It is so similar, I didn’t know!
The personal table fork probably originated in the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire, and use spread to the Middle East during the first millennium CE and then to southern Europe. In northern Europe its use spread in the 18th century, while in North America it began to be widely used in the 19th century.
The similarities between these two languages testify the strong political and cultural connections between greeks and venetians, as early as the early byzantine era.
A nice take on the similarities between languages, but unfortunately it was the opposite in real life. They were nemesis in middle ages, Venetians even sacked Constantinople in a crusade.
@@SrConstantinoplaThey did, but they fought later against Ottomans and Greeks sided with them, because they were Christians. There is a huge Greek community in Venice, Greek stratioti figh for Venice, Byzantine Nobles keep their titles in Venetian Greek parts etc
@@SrConstantinopla Byzantium and Venice has a close relationship up until the 11 century when the Kommenoi started giving the Venetians huge trade concessions in return for naval support.
It's super cool that these 2 languages are still around
Ωραιω! Μου αρεσει .How I love Greek language. Roda=rueda kathe savvato=cada sábado similarities with Spanish. Hmm barbas mean beards in Spanish. Pasarela same, fashion show, Greetings from Argentina Γεια Σας!
The Latin word for a beard, barba come from the word barbarian (Barbados an Berber in north Africa), which in turn forms the Latin adjective barbatus, meaning 'bearded'. This was because the barbarians had long hair and beards, while the Greeks and Romans had short hair and shaved faces
Γεια σου ..απο Ελλαδα
Also similar with Spanish is thea (aunt) in Greek θεία
I visited Treviso last week. Definitely, a gorgeous city in a gorgeous area!
The most common between Greek and Venetian word is Kουζίνα-Cusina the kitchen and the door πόρτα-porta,
Κορνίζα -Cornisa...
I finally discovered where the word "flanelă" comes in Romanian (my native language). It has been bothering me for decades, since I first heard it. Thank you
In Iraqi Arabic we say "fanila" for undershirt as well, but pronounce it as "faaneela" with a soft "l" sound.
As a result of Venetian rule over many parts of Greece during the centuries, many Venetian and in general, Italian words still used in Modern Greek language.
There is nothing like Modern Greek language. This is a misleading naming. Its Rum language.Rumish ! Ancient Greek is a foreign language for you.
@@ayhankaracaoglu6845lmao girl calm tf down. Rum means Roman. The language scientifically speaking is Greek. And Greeks don’t call it Greek.
Rum = Citizens of Eastern Roman state of many diverse ethnic backgrounds and from many different language backgrounds. Greek is a fake produced id. You are Rum, if you are Greek then Italşans are Etrusk, Turks are Hittites . Greeks extinct in history about 2500 years ago @@angrybirdo
@@angrybirdo Yea, it's just the medieval form of Greek. I don't get what @ayhankaracaoglu6845 is trying to say or prove
@@apmoy70 it’s probably an ultra nationalist from a country that hates Greece
Fascinating video. Both sides of my family are from regions that were controlled by Venice at various points in time (Cycladic islands and Peleponese). Even during the Ottoman period Venetian landlords remained in power in a tribute system in some areas. So much Venetian architecture in Greece today, even the Acropolis used to have Venetian fortifications and towers until they were taken down after Greek independence. There was a diaspora in Venice and even a Greek publishing house.
Thank you to the guests and thank you Bahador from a fellow Torontonian. Go Jays!
Greek is a one beautiful language
Albanian is better
@@KanenasAnyparktos why albanians are always spamming Greek posts or anything related to Greece? I've seen this quite often and used to like albanians but now I have totally changed my opinion. So petty and insecure
😂😂allways a fart from the mouth of albanians in everything greek will be around...you got to ask for help as a nation from good psycologist...huge complex!!its not our fault if you need an identity that you dont have...make your own and stop trying to steal other peoples history@@KanenasAnyparktos
the most irrelevant comments...albanians@@KanenasAnyparktos
@@KanenasAnyparktos I have heard it a little bit and yeah it is beautiful too! I have one co worker from Kosovo she spoke it a couple of time
Thank you for this awesome video. The Venetian rule in the Ionian islands lasted for several hundred years. It has left a lasting legacy. It's interesting to see it in action, it's almost like reliving the history.
Venetians called the island of Kythera "Cerigo" -they owned it for a long time. A Greek friend of mine who was from this island, on a trip to Venice, discovered a street called Cerigo there. Also the noble Emo family who owned a beautiful villa and estate on the Venetian mainland (Rovigo area) were of Greek descent - Villa Emo was sold about a decade ago. I presume the name "Emo" is related to the Greek word "haemus" which means blood if I'm not mistaken or the Haemus mountains?
Venetian has had an impact on Modern Standard Greek in general. It may have to do with the fact that MSG is actually partly based on the Ionian Islands dialect (and partly on the Peloponnese).
Good to know the common words between Venetian (vèneto) and Greek (ελληνικά)
In romanian, roda(wheel) is similar to roată. Fracar can be frecare, many words in common also in romanian... pasarelă
At the end of the nineteenth century there was a Venetian immigration into Romania
Man, this video has summoned up all the ultranationalist Turks and Albanians, their absurd posts have killed the comment section for me
and they always use copy & paste texts
what have u seen on Albanians comments ?
im waiting for an Greek Albanian Video
🇬🇷🇦🇱🇽🇰❤️
´´has summoned ...``dude, no national politics in this platform please, we would be gratefull if ya don`t post that kind of comment again 👍
Why you spend time with albanian,up to 1991 90,%of them they was an alphabet, after 30 years they have discovered everything,the most they have discovered is the drugs,and also that earth is round
@@beratmaliqi5445 there is greek-arberesh similarities video!
All of that thanks to the 13 centuries of trade, exchanges , moves , people sharing, political influences, dominions, trade free zones of the mighty " Serenissima" Republic of Venice from the upper Adriatic coastline to the istrian and Dalmatians towns to Crete, Cyprus to Izmir and Istanbul/ Costantinopole . What an amazing cultural heritage. Central and eastern Mediterrean people strong relationship.
Very good groot video Venetian is loyal to Greek, a real partner of them in culture.
I wonder how Venetian is close to our Cretan dialect. Venetians were in Crete for 400 years and greatly influenced every area of life.
We use fanila in Turkish too actually (borrowed). We use it to mean undershirt exclusively. Like those white ones that your dad wears. Also we borrowed vida, screw or bolt.
This is exactly the purpose we use the "fanella" word 😅
A white shirt that uncles and dads wear 😁
@@gecko3890that's Albanian btw just saying
@@valmir1975 Gtfo Albo.You don't even have alphabet , at first you wrote on Greek and the at Latin.Even now your alphabet comes from Latin one , which comes from Greek.The word fanella albo is proto-indoeuropean , if your word has anything to do with it ,it's because YOU took the loan , not the opposite as you with audacity claim
@@valmir1975It's from standard Italian "flanella", which they borrowed from the French "flanelle". Ultimately the word seems to have a Gaulish/Celtic etymology. But I guess it is easier to just assume that everything is originally albanian than to actually start thinking.
@BahadorAlast when you're able, compare local Corfu or Cephalonia(n) dialects with Italian, or local Italian dialects maybe. For example, in Corfu, aunt was called Tsia or Gia which is similar to Italian.
The Seven Island dialect it is also called veneto
The 7island dialect.is the veneto dialect. Our flag is the winged lion
Since Zakynthos (Zante) was a Venetian colony I'd expect to have closer ties with Venetian from us in northern mainland Greece. I was wrong! We use every single word mentioned in this video and also understood as much as our Zakynthian friend did.
Note:
Barbas is used commonly today, but it's either negative or used when you are in a very familiar environment.
Fanela is not only used for an under shirt, but also for sport teams shirts.
(I thought both words were of Turkish origin)
In Venezuelan Spanish franela is T-shirt.
It was wonderful! :)))
In greek we use the venezian word" VERA" for the wedding ring ( although in standard italian they use the word " fede")
in Albanian verore for flawer bracalete wen spring its coming
@@anilasevo2400could you please , explain it better?🥰 ( google can not translate it)
@@ΖωζωΙωσηφιδου vera or veroredi chiama il bracciale nel giorno della primavera ...quando si festeggia il primo giorno della primavera c'è un abitudine di mettere certi bracciali specifici solo per questo giorno...si chiamano verore...
Because Venetian navies and merchants dominated the Eastern Mediterranean for many centuries, may we assume that many of the common words came to the Greeks in this way as opposed to having Indo-European roots?
Hi, Bahador. Can you please make a video on similarities between Khmer and Vietnamese. Can you also please make a video on similarities between Khmer and Thai. Thank you very much.
howe many years there was (the Serenissima in grecia?
In the Ionian islands for 600 years, from 1204 to 1800. In others parts of Greece like Crete and the Aegean islands less, like 200-300 years.
I didn't recognize any words from Greek (I know Koine NT Greek) until you got to sentences. I recognized some words like "roda" from other Romance languages.
It's because the words that where mentioned came into greek later through latin
They’re all loan words from Italian. If you studied Ancient Greek you shouldn’t have recognised any of them- unless of course as you said you recognised them from another Romance language
@@jimskoutas1933what , you got rid of greek and use Latin😅
@user-bc5kq5op8f yes, with some words is preferred to use the Latin version. Like umbrella, we use ομπρέλα (obrela) but the original greek word is αλεξιβρόχιο (alexivrohio)
Somewhere in south Italy there is a village called Greci i assume is greek, and below it says: .......Mire se erdhet ne katund.... What does that mean?
It means “welcome to the village” (or, rather, “community”), in Arbëreshë, the local dialect of medieval Albanian origin. Until the late 19th century, the Arbëreshë in Southern Italy (they had come there 500 years ago from Southern Albanian communities in Greece) were often confusingly called “Greci”, since language wasn’t considered the main criterion for national identity. Piana degli Albanesi, near Palermo, was called Piana dei Greci for the same reason until WW2 (when politics made it suddenly very important to distinguish between the two languages in Italy).
I think that is a message to Albanian tourists, in Albanian, not Greek
@@cyloner carolapucci-tips.blogspot.com/2016/04/a-visit-to-greci-town-where-my.html?m=1
@@cyloner I meant this: carolapucci-tips.blogspot.com/2016/04/a-visit-to-greci-town-where-my.html?m=1
ask mussolini😆
You should do greek speaker and a greek cypriot speaker ( village greek)
τζογος στα ελληνικα επισης σημαινει και το διακενο μεταξυ αντικειμενων , αν και περισοτερο την λεξη την χρησιμοποιουν μηχανικοι αυτοκινητων πχ αν εχει τζογο το τιμονι του αυτοκινητου ή οι βαλβιδες της κεγαλης
Τζόγος είναι καί τά χαρτιά καί ότι παίζει ή είναι λασκα
Τζόγος είναι καί τά χαρτιά καί ότι είναι λασκα
Funny that there are places in the island of Crete that people speak with this muted L sound
I am Greek from Cyprus, but my last name is Pieri. Not really a common Greek surname. I understand the Veneitians ruled Cyprus in the middle ages and that the surname originates from Venice. Oddly, enough it was inspired by the Greek name for Peter. So the culture all comes full circle.
Thanks a ton for this video. I will be honest...I didn't know that Venetian is a language. I just though it's a variety of Italian.
There are many Romance languages that are quietly minding their own business.
...or so the rest of the Italians would have you believe!
@@marcusaurelius4941hahaa!! Right😍🤩
I'm surprised I understood as many words as I did. I've only studied Venetian a little.
The Greek islands of the Ionian coast were under Venice control it made impact on the Greek culture
The Italy is the Greek civilization
Ricordo quando Aristotele arrivò ad Atene dalla Macedonia, Platone disse ai suoi discepoli: "Ma da dove l'è questo chi, facciamogli il trucco della karekla"
In English use the word Fracas ! when two people get in a shouting match and start pushing each other but it doesn't quite become a full blown punch up !
Barba in Greek from the islands is your non-blood uncle. My mother's sister is my Thia (aunt) but my aunt's husband is my Barba. My mother's brother is my Thio. I would not refer to him as Barba because my Thio is blood related. Sometimes they interchange the two. But if someone says that an uncle was a barba that's what I would understand. A non blood uncle.
pare me ke mena barba. is a folk song. Come and take me to uncle. Barba is a town way of saying uncle. or else we say. Thio
Hey can you make Hindi and nepali
both are from Sanskrit
@@levaltshuler1315 so
@@levaltshuler1315 so what
Sono greca.. tanti anni fa, avendo visitato la isola di Corfu', ho sentito dire da una casalinga dell' isola , la frase: "ΑΣΕ ΤΟ ΠΑΣΤΙΤΣΙΟ ΣΤΟ ΦΟΥΡΝΟ ΝΑ ΚΟΥΣΟΥΜΑΡΕΙ"🥰 "
" lascia Ιl pasticcio( pasta al forno) al forno a..." consumare " i suoi liquidi)
Αnche se gia' parlavo l' italiano.mi era difficile capire il significato dell' ultima parola😍 Ho dovuto chiedere spiegazioni🤩
These Greek words on the video are not officials in the Greek Language..
The Greek Language has Only Greek words as officials
JUPITER AND ZEUS BLESS THE SPEAKERS
Fanila and vida exist in Turkish too. Both are in use today's Turkish
It's true indeed, they came to Turkish thru Greek mainly, like a lot of nautical terms.
Venetian > Greek > Turkish
@@ΛουκάςΝοβέλος yes i think so. True scenario
Fanila also used in Arabic!
I want to ask you something ... A mountza is the most traditional gesture of insult among Greeks. It consists of extending and spreading all fingers of the hand and presenting the palm towards the face of the person to be insulted with a forward motion. It is often coupled with να, ορίστε, or πάρτα and swear words.
Do you have the same gesture in Turkey ?
@@LondonPower
We have same gesture in Arab countries
We call it “Hamsa we Humesa” meaning something like “five and five more…”
Zakynthos and the seven Islands were occupied by Italians until the Revolution and from 1940 to 1943.
Venetians till 1799
Τι ειναι το φρακαρω;
stoubwnw
Do you know the word "patafano"?
not really.. but i know fornari.. in greek fournaris means baker😂
In Italy to make jokes on personal names is not very polite. My question was on a word used in traditional Venitian dialect, but please save me from another joke, thanks.
@@giuseppefornari5777😂😂 in italy always someting is considered offensive.. why you think it was meant as a joke? cause i put the smileys on? what you want me know, to say sorry?
@@dillinger445 After an unhappy joke even a not required generalization! A real masterpiece, congratulations! Please do not answer any more, grazie.
@@giuseppefornari5777i never meant to make a joke though.. 😭i was just happy to see a familiar word..thats all.. i mean i can make jokes about you know, but i wont do it?😉
In Albanian language, there is two dialects one is called Tosk and the other one Geg And in both of this dialects you find all this words with exactly the same meaning interesting!
U need to try Venetian and south croatian
And then there is me, an Italian who knows some Greek and in this video I definitely understood Greek better than Venetian!
😂😂 interesting ... Greetings from greece
I don’t understand why are these similarities there?
Adriatic Sea trade into the Mediterranean. Look at the map.
Half of Greece was under Venetian rule for centuries
venetian colony in ottoman vassal (aka ionistan/yunanistan aka modern Greece) before the modification of it's name.
@@angrybirdo Plus Venice was under Greek rule when Greeks controlled the Eastern Roman Empire before the fall of Constantinople.
Greek gets most of its foreign loanwords from Venetian
You forgot to mention Albanian, Turkish and Slavic 😂
And Genoese, as far as Romance is concerned
@@southepirote7676 I said MOST. Greek gets most of its foreign loanwords from Italian languages . Turkish comes next. Then Latin. Next French. Next English and then a small numbers of foreign words come from several other languages. Albanian and Slavic languages are about 1% of the words of foreign origin in the Greek language.
@@southepirote7676 There is no such thing as albanian language. Some thousants of loanwords from around an area cant consist a language. Especially without alphabet
@@GioBall Sorry, Greek is based on Albanian language whether you like it or not 🤷♂ John Wilkes The lands between Adriatic and Danube were inhabited by a people called Illyrian. When the Albanian language will be well studied and when its oral traditions will be exhumed, then many of Homers works will be revisited and some of them will need to be corrected. Herodotus had no idea that the names of the Heroes of Homers work were clearly in the Pelasgian language. Even Homers own name can be tracked back to the Albanian language : Good and in the form Imiros means good poetry. In the Albanian language it is : Agamenon , He - ge-mendon, he who thinks , Ajax that Bloodsucker ,bloodsucker: Priamos , Mothers Son,mothers son and with an ironic meaning Son of the Earth, of the Country: Achilles , of heaven one descended from heaven: Odysseus of the Road the traveler the one who walks: Ithaka, i thak - idhnak: Droilos,Droili (os) one who fears,a coward .Many more could be added to this list. Its is not surprising if people who have studied the Albanian language say that this is the original language of Homer and that the Greeks took from the Pelasgian poets most of the songs of valor and heroines. They built big walls that are called cyclopean and for which Prof.Pokok says they were built long before Homers Greeks existed. From this strong prehistoric race only the Albanians remained. Only later was it realized that the Pelasgian were the old Illyrians , the first Indo-European branch, whose empire stretched from Asia minor to the Ionian and Adriatic. From the studies of young writers, like Proff. Max Mueller and Proff, POT, in the Albanian language this origin became stable. These Illyrians who still live in Albanian as Toska, Toscana, Etruscan. It is in vain to look for the gods of Greece in the etymology of her language. In the Albanian language these are very clear and their meanings are very correct. for example , Chaos emptiness, space Erebus, son of Chaos, is er-het-os, made dark: Uranos is I-Vran-os, that is, the fairy of the clodus, the Clodus: Zeus, Zaa, Zee, Zot-God, voice of lighting: Athena is the Spoken , by speaking the word: Nemesis, nemes, that is, nam, Devils call: Muse, Mosois, is the Teacher: Venus means close to the day,the dawn. George Fred Williams wrote in 1914 : If we go back to prehistory, before the Homeric rhapsodes were sung to the gods and mythological heroes, before the Greek language was written, there lived a people known as the Pelasgians. Albanians are the only ones who have come to this day from this powerful prehistoric race.Only in recent years has it been determined that the Pelasgians were the Ancient Ilyrians.... These Illyrians also went to Italy under the name Toska, as they are still called in Albania, while in Italy they remained as Toska, Tuscan Etruscan.
Greek Albanian will be interesting. please a video for thie languages 🇬🇷🇽🇰🇽🇰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Incredibile che barba in veneto voglia dire zio xD
Vabbè, se è per questo, noi siciliani abbiamo babbu che nella nostra lingua vuol dire stupido, anziché padre 😂
In standard Albanian pirun, karrige, rrotë, fanellë, vidë, mustaqe, kuvertë mean respectively fork, chair, wheel, shirt/cloth/fabric, screw, moustache, blanket. I've been told that in Venetian got means water glass which in Albanian would be gotë...
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@@vask3863 ? What's funny about it?
what does "who cares" mean in standard albanian?
@@dillinger445 nix besseres zu tun, gelle? Ei, na dann lies den obigen Kommentar noch einmal.
@@terveronthere is NO standard albanian language.. tosc and gheg is different .. and albanians from different regions can not understand each other.. i have seen the videos on arberesh tv, dont worry😉
Raja are the turk-albanians at the present as allies of the turks...
The Greeks had the byzantine empire.....
The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters
@@darladallddoria143 😂😂😂keep repeating the fake stories that slavo mongols teach you in churches
so venentian is so similiar to albanian names. verbs and gramar are latin but names are albanian
Greci, siamo greci, non lo dico io ma Luigi Pirandello, premio Nobel per la letteratura.
Sono Veneta. E la lingua Veneta non è uguale in tutto il Veneto. Vocaboli e cadenze cambiano da città a città, da provincia a provincia. E non hanno nulla in comune con l' italiano
Non hanno nulla in comune con L’ italiano. Giustamente il Veneto non appartiene ad un ceppo neolatino come l’italiano , giusto?
The highest technology of all time is the English language. Without it the internet cancels out
Wow we had friends from ny but background of wife was Treviso
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Perché non fate confronto greco cinese perché anche i cinesi forse sono di origine greca .forse anche extra terrestri sono di origine greca
Treviso capitale 🤙🤙🤙
Also very similar to Albanian
Piron and carega are Albanian.
Also the earth is flat like a plate, albanian says
😂😂😂 maybe.. Just maybe the albos borrowed IT from latin?
Avete rotto le scatole.
I really miss the pre-covid meetings of people. It should be brought back since it’s no longer considered pandemic
The Venetians spent much time in Greece. Trading.
venetian colony in ottoman vassal (aka ionistan/yunanistan aka modern Greece) before the modification of it's modern name used to be inhabbited by turx and AIbanians who now have been converted in to greekism aka orthodoxy.
Keep playing super mario and when you grow start to learn about reallity...who are the turx nobody knows...
Nothing Greeks or Venetian you have to know that both come from Pelasgian Illyrian language.
Pelasgians and Illyrians were Greeks and no turk-albanians from albanian Caucasian river
@@darladallddoria143 😂😂😂😂 keep dreaming
@@darladallddoria143 Greeks or Gayreeks because Greece did not exist is new born country with fake history,identity and with technical ecclesiastical language made in Russia and German king Otto and don't forget the present population of modern Greece is Ottoman Orthodox,Albanian Cham Suliot,Romali,Jewish etc etc so nothing Gayreeks.
@@highsociety5 the turk-albanians are from caucasus
fanela =fanella fustanella fanellata shqip
No, it's Greek
ILLIRIA language ILLIRIA ILLIRIA ILLIRIA ILLIRIA
The turk-albanian language is not Illyrian
Venitians occupied Cyprus for centuries influesing the local greek dialect language, imposing hundreds of italian words
He means Venetian words. Italian is another language. At the same time, the Byzantine Empire conditioned many Venetian words. For example, Venice is the only city in Italy where the bishop is called patriarch.
They ruled Cyprus for about 80 years.
@@redemptousyes less than 100 years but it was the Venitians that fought with Ottomans before Cyprus was fallen and Marc Antonio Bragadin is a local hero. But talking for centuries of influence I was referring to 3 centuries of Lusignans the French who actually created Cyprus Kingdom. As is well known French and Italian are sharing lots of words, so for locals sounded the same.
@yiannishadjiloizou5501 yes the Lousignan dynasty ruled Cyprus for nearly 300 years. They spoke French which is also a Latin language.
@@redemptous iam Cypriot where are u from 😊
The Greek man uses loan words and not originated Greek words so the other man understands them.
Karrige
Thanks to Venecians for making us who we are, If it wasn't for venetian colonization, We Greeks would have remained Turx (what we really are)
me albanian be careful🥳🥳🥳😬😬
Greek language is 60% latin, 20% Albanian, 10% Turkish and 10% Slavic. Greeks don't actually originate from Greece but in fact originate from Caucasus somewhere in Georgia.
7676, likes Albanians
You're IQ has expired,run to the hospital,so in Georgia they speak greek😂
In your family is stupid like you,or is more clever from you
Sì, come no.
The Greek Language has Only Greek words as officials and the Greeks are here in the ΧΕΡΣΟΝΗΣΟΣ ΤΟΥ ΑΙΜΟΥ the last 10000 years
The title of this video is methodologically misleading. These are not true similarities between Greek and Venetian. These are just Venetian/Italian words into Greek. The only exception to this is "karekla" which comes from the Greek "cathedra". It's like taking Greek words used in English and then saying "similarities between English and Greek".
Ok guys forget about venetian ans greek and all that. English English the smartest technology ever invented. Without it you couldnt even orser coffee let alone do this video
Ma sì, dimentichiamo che la Grecia è la culla della democrazia, della filosofia, della matematica, della letteratura, delle olimpiadi, dell'astronomia ecc, buttiamo tutto a mare.
Nice program you make but why you don't make more research why they have similar word.
The reason why that in 15th century North Albanian were occupied by venitians and by death of Gjergje Kastrioti Skendërbeu the Albanian national heroe ottomans occupied Albania and venitians toke alot of Albanians there and in greece are 80% Albanian which they call Arvanitas that's why they have same words
kastrioti atleta de cristo is your national hero and your name is ahmeti😂🤡
@dillinger445 haha it is so funny when people don't know nothing about Albanian history and they judge you by the surname, yes my surname is Ahmeti and I'm proud of being myslim but I'm even prouder being ALBANIAN, in Albania our first religion it is Albanian then we have our faith but over all we don't care what religion we are we are Albanians blood first then religion.
Yes our national heroe was title as Christian Knight but those Christians let him down many time and as much as he fought and killed ottoman myslims he did kill catholics Christians too. Go and learn about Albanian and their history language and culture then you talk and don't make yourself a fool
@@shpetimahmeti8008 doesn't matter how you put it , it will never make sense..
@dillinger445 I cant believe it that you still continue making yourself a fool !!!!
@@shpetimahmeti8008 its all good plako ...paqen🙌.. be proud of it, if it brings you inner peace... but also mention ali pascha he was your hero too.. without him you wouldn't be able to claim epirus😉 the ottomans gave him the pashalik of yanina
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The Chams were an ethnic Albanian community that formerly inhabited the area of Thesprotia, part of the modern northwest Greece (south part of Epirus). Most of them were expelled into Albania through government-supported ethnic cleansing[40] at the end of World War II. Few survivors still live in Arta, Preveza and Janina.
what about the time when albanians were allies with mussolini and attacked greece? that was before the chameria incident
You forgot to mention that the albanians living in this part of Epirus, we're originally a medieval migration into Greek lands, been part of Greece allied with the invasive Italian fascist regime against their own country, attack Greek of the area and killed many.
The audacity of modern albanians is immense. We should have never opened our borders to house you when you needed support unkind snakes!
The chams and turk-albanians are allies with turks...
The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters
Τρακαρω είναι και όχι φρακαρω
Facts about the Origins of the Modern Greek State .
1. The first King of Greece is the Bavarian Prince Otto
2 The Typical Greek of the time spoke Arvanite a language very closely related to Albanian so it is a Albanian dialect,
3 The national costumes of Greek is the Albanian Fustanella
4 The national Dance of the Greek independence is the Albanian Chamiko The Dance of the Chams /Came -a subgroup of Albanians in Greece.
5 Athens was made up of 8000 houses where most of the Inhabitants were Albanians -Helene Glykatzi-Ahrweiler.
6 The majority of Greek soldiers spoke in Albanian to one another Parnassos Magazine. History of The Greek flag in 1822 Greece adopts this flag its naval ensign. in 1828 in battle of Navarino Britain liberated Greece from Turks. In 1978 same flag becomes Greek national flag. Greek national Flag is British Colonial Blue Ensign Flag.
Theodor Momsen : The survivors of the Illyrians are the Albanians.
Kelly Miller : The Balkan battlefield is exactly the center of world History.
Wadham Peacok : The man who marched to Babylon Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians.
Nikolla Jorga : The Albanians people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe.
Joseph Salinger : The Epirotic language of the past is the Albanian language of Today.
Branislav Nusic : The Albanians are indigenous who during all the agitations managed to save their character and even emphasized it.They resisted on Romans attacks and survived the slavic migrations.
Edith Durham They are strewn with the wreckage of dead Empires past powers only the Albanian gos on forever.
Robert Gordon Latham : Macedonia and Thracia were Albanian / Skipetar. Franz Bopp : Albanian is the oldest indoeuropean language.
Alphons de Lamartine : Albanians this nation and this people can not be mocked .This is the Land of Heroes of all time .Homer found there Achilles the Greeks the Alexander the Great.Turks found Scanderbeg people these of the same race the same Blood.
Mauricio Druon : Albanians belong to the Nations who are older then the History.and the Grandfathers of Albanians took part in the Troy War,ruled by Hector on one part and by Achilles on the other part.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : Albanian is the old language of the Ilyrians. Edwin Pears : Albanians are the Descendants of the oldest race in the Balkanic Peninsula an Aryan Race.Even the word Aryan in their language means pure Gold.
Maximilian Lambretz : The true History of the Humanity will be written only when it will be written with participation of Albanians.
Jovan Cvijic : South Slavs after arrived in the Balkans found there the Albanians.
Edwin Jacues : Illyrians or Albanians those tireless sons, were warriors of the Albania ethnic. Ancestors of Achilles , Philip II,Alexander the Great and Pyrros of Epirus.Johan Georg von Hahn : The Albanian derives from Illyrians and the Illyrians from Pelasgian one.
Henri Barisford : In Macedonia Albanians are the only indigenous people.
General Niox : Albanians are of Pelasgian origin they are considered one of the most beautiful and courageous races.
Gustav Meyer : The Albanian language is the oldest language in Europe.
Herbert David : Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans, and they are the gods of the mountains from very ancient times. They are the descendants of the ancient Pellazgia, no other race has a valid claim to the territories of the Albanians.
Lord Byron : Albanians with their customs make a most wonderful scenery in the world. Albanians are the most beautiful human race exists courage, stronger than their strongholds.
Konstandin Paparigopuolos : Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian Race.
Gustav Meyer Albanians are the young Illyrians and the Illyrians are the descendants of Pellazgi.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibnitz : If you want to discover the History before Christ and the science at that time , you have to learn the Albanian language.
Strabo : Between Greece , Thrace and Danube are the Tribes of Epirots , Macedonians and Illyrians.
Lmao Albanian ultra nationalists are a special kind breed. You don’t mess with this kind of delulu😂
Also the Albanians built the pyramids in Egypt and Isaac Newton was Albanian 😂😂
Yep, we're Albanian in denial, happy now? You'll sleep well tonight?
@@apmoy70 it’s most probable that they are Greeks in denial but don’t tell that to an ultranationalist. They’ll have a heart attack
He can't understand how the Greek minority of Albania found there 😂
The people who live in so called Greece today used to be called "Romej" during Byzantine Empire and "Raja" during Ottoman Empire times (except the Arvanitas who used to be called always by their name like "Albani", "Arbanoi", etc.) and the name "Greece" never existed during Byzantine times.
During Ottoman times in the Balkans, after the big powers pushed for an uprising in the place that today is called "Greece", an independent country was formed in 1821-1832. The majority of the population there was of Arvanitas (and Chameria) stock, they also were the backbone of the uprising for independence from the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the minority population was of Slav, Turks and Aromanian stock.
After the gain of independence the place was so divided, and with a prolonged civil war that a real country could not be formed.
Fearing the disintegration of the place after Ottomans left (and possibility of a return of the Ottomans), Prince Otto of Germany was brought in by European powers to clear the mess and do nation - building there. He was proclaimed King of the place by big powers and given plenipotentiary powers.
The Price Otto royal family in Germany happen to be an admirer of the ancient civilizations, one of them being the extinct ancient Greek civilization, traces and archeological findings of which are also seen in that region called today "Greece" as well.
Being an ancient history romantic and buff, Otto came up with the idea, that the only way to keep the place together and for a chance to build a country there, was to adopt/impose some kind of neutral/foreign ancient language and culture for all people living in that place, that will make possible for the people to stick together under one language and culture imposed on them.
So with a special royal decree, he proclaimed a version of the ancient Greek (the easier one to be taught and learned by people there in those times) as an official language of the place, and also came up with the new name for the place, calling it with a special royal decree "Greece".
Everything else was banned, and the new "country" formed, was ordered to be rebuild anew in resemblance of the old romantic view of the ancient Greek civilization, starting with the buildings, names of people, places, cities and villages, regions, mountains, fields and all were changed to made-up names loaned by the ancient literature of ancient Greek civilization.
This of course was associated with money brought by European powers to rebuild. The more people in that place agreed with the change of their true national and ethnic identity and declare themselves artificially "Greeks/Helenes" and adopt to the new order, the more money was to be pouring in.
Naturally, the strongest resistance to this artificial and made-up solution, was made by the Arvanitas (and Chameria), but at no avail.
It is legendary, the loss by one vote in the Price Otto's Parliament of that time, of Arvanitas proposal to have the Albanian (Arvanite) language as an official language of the place called 'Greece" today, and to call the new country "Arvanoi" (instead of "Greece").
There is plenty of scientific and factual evidence, archival and historical documents, as well as studies and publications by major authors and authorities in the field about as above.
One interesting fact here, is that one of the earlier German/Austrian well known historians and scientists of that time, Fallmerayer, alerted Prince Otto and others to this nonsense, of declaring a whole people and place by a name not belonging to them, and injecting an extinct language, culture and civilization on people who had no idea about it and did not belong to it at all.
By the way, Fallmerayer, is a banned figure and historian in what is called Greece today.
Germany is still paying for the Otto's mistake, even today. It has gotten stuck with the country so called "Greece". It is now forced to pour free money, even today, out of Germany's pocket (through European Union as well) year after year to keep it alive and going, as this "Greece" cannot stand on its own. It is an artificial creation of Prince Otto's fantasy (a "zombie" country so to speak), and the new generations of the Germans and Europeans are continuing to pay the price for it.
Moreover, what Prince Otto did back then, is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. He forced inhabitants of a whole region/place (called "Greece" today) to change by force their culture, language, national and ethnic identity to something else that those people were not, so they could artificially change in order to look modern and civilized (like ancient Greeks in Otto's personal view) and possibly be united. And of course, Arvanites and Chams (as the majority population in the region) suffered mostly from this ethnic cleansing.
All this revelation, informs another major point: history taught about what today is called Greece, it appears to be taught wrong. People are wrongly taught in schools that today's Greece and its people are the direct descendants of ancient Greeks. Greece and Greeks of today, in some extend, also think they are superior to others just because they are called "Greeks" and their country "Greece" by decree (not by the virtue of the truth). They also seem to believe for some reason, they are entitled to the German and European money being handed out to them.
The school textbooks and historiography should change, telling people the truth as it is. And with this, will come many other changes, in the way we see relations with the country called "Greece" today.
Relax blacko, go back to your ottoman master's lap like the dog you are.
The arvanites are not turk-albanians but Greeks..
The Greeks had the byzantine empire and the turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river along with turks after the byzantine period means after the year 1453 aC and spoke a turkish type language without alphabet and letters...
The Greeks spoke and speak only the Greek Language
The Greeks are not turk-albanians
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes.
To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin.
Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries.
Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek.
Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts.
In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
Epirus is Greek word so your alphabet 😂😂
Albanian Dreams 🤣
The Greek Language is The same Language from the ancient Greek period...
The turk-albanians came from the Albanian Caucasian river and are not Arvanites
Greek and Turkish only close
Linguistically miles apart
Not even the same language group
turkish language is close with turkalbanian language
Karega=kariga=seat in Albanian
Because albanian language is a Mix of Latin ancient Greek Turkish Serbish and a few Illyrian and Dardanian words.
@ellinmakedon1216 no man, Greek language is Albanian language, derived from the pelazgian, Doris are albanianas,...wake up, you old albanianas, not Greek Nation, is fake
@@KanenasAnyparktos Yes in your Dreams 🤣🤣👽🛸
@@KanenasAnyparktos why some albanians like to be ridiculous?🤔👽👽🛸🤣🤣🤣
@@KanenasAnyparktos η ξεφτίλα στο μεγαλείο της, αμόρφωτα ούφο ξεσκούφοτα 👽👽👽🛸🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks to Venecians for making us who we are, If it wasn't for venetian colonization, We Greeks would have remained Turx (what we really are)
ο ασχετος
You are Not Greek, turkalbano 😂
Turx....yea..turx