Feb 23rd 2024 purchase date. I’ve got almost 7500 miles on my DH premium. It’s my daily and I look for every excuse to take it for a drive . My little kiddos always ask to go on adventures in the darkhorse
I love my DH Premium. I have Recaros and the six speed. Got third fastest at Limerock autocross about a month ago. Have about 3300 miles on it and it's a blast. Have fun.
I am absolutely in love with mine. I have had the pleasure of driving a lot of mustangs over the years and I use to sell Fords about a decade ago. I contemplated a GT350, but ultimately, I am so happy with it. Much more impressed than I expected to be. Mine is a handling pack premium with recaros and the way it holds to the ground has not ceased to amaze me. I am only at 760 miles right now and haven't been going hard until first oil change, but I see myself only loving it more when I really get on it.
For the tow hook I bought a spare cover, drilled a hole in it, put a rubber grommet on and it has a clean look on the front. I agree taking the hook on and off between track events would get old.
Thank you for your great reviews. I really enjoy them. About 1500 miles on a GT premium since May. No performance pack. 6 speed manual. Don't plan to take it to a track. Take both grandkids to a local car show almost weekly. Front facing car seat and booster seat in back. They love riding in it. I have the same vibration/rattle on the left side of the instrument cluster. Happens only occasionally on certain stretches of the highway. But not consistently. If I drive steady at 65 in the right lane, I do get about 27 miles per gallon. But I never do that. Atlas blue. I do get comments. The screens have grown on me as well. Your review of the screens was really helpful. Also love the voice commands and Android Auto. Keep up the great work!
Great review as always. Love the honesty and credibility given your extensive experience with Mustangs. The arguments that take place between the GT and DH folks are plentiful. I’m in the DH camp, but can appreciate the value the GT offers.
Picked up a "used" DH with 598 miles on it about 3 weeks ago as a weekend car. I'm already at 1200 miles and I don't want to stop driving it! I absolutely love almost everything about it. I'm a little concerned about the reliability of the big screen after about 10 years, but we'll see.
i was gonna get one. But then I thought to myself "Am I going to race on tracks? and go to drag strips?" The answer was no. Instead got a GR86 and it controls like a dream. And only cost 32k. Beautiful.
The dash functionally is fine... my big issue with it, is that people may want to keep these longer than they would in the past.. and it is clearly going to look dated extremely quickly because obviously cars are quickly going to move away from rectangular blocks on top of the dashboard... just giant square screens straight out of a Kia are going to look bad the second the next type of design comes along.... which considering these might be some of the last cars of its kind, is disappointing.
@@MKu64 I think that could be said for many different features and designs of cars from any decade. I view the screens as the current design style, and I think they are done well in the Mustang. Styles will change and who knows what dashboards and instrument clusters will look like in 15 years. I may get tired of the screens or I may continue to like them, but if I stop liking the car then it’s time to move on to the next car.
@@Krisk5.0 I know what you're saying but I personally don't think so.. Most importantly, for me, it's lost a lot of 'style' with that implementation. The previous gen digital dash was a great middle ground for example, between style and modern function.. and I would have loved to see it as an evolution of that. The current dash seems like a stepping stone to what it should have been... and probably will be as soon as Kia designs it (sarcasm intended 😂).
@@MKu64 I get what you’re saying, but to me it’s no big deal. I’m not a car collector buying a car to save in a garage for decades. I enjoy cars, but I enjoy them by driving them. I currently like the screen and I love driving my GT on the street and track. When I stop enjoying it, I’ll get something else. It’s just a matter of perspective. I buy cars to enjoy them now. If a new style comes out that makes the current look outdated, and I really like the new style, then that’s what I’ll buy. I’m a driver, not a collector.
@@Krisk5.0 My only issue is that I'm worried I won't be able to get what I want after this... they are getting rid of manuals.. and anything except hybrid/electric/SUVs.. in any other world I would be ok with it.. but it's that potential that I won't be able to just 'get the next thing' that's a problem for me.
In my region with current discounts and finance rates, a fully loaded 2024 GT 401A with Performance Pack AND Magneride is over $25k less than a base Dark Horse after taxes AND interest (600A without the track pack so same MR and tires as GT PP). The GT has employee pricing and lower rates now where as the DH is still at MSRP with higher interest rates. Absolutely insane. A local dealer has five on the lot which have been there for at least 6 months.
Nice looking car great review but idk how anyone can justify the price of a darkhorse. MSRP is as much as a C8 after dealer greed its more money. Then u have the ZL1 1LE more power better handling for the same amount of money. I think the darkhorse is a great car its sexy just way to much money. Its crazy how much cars cost today might just as well get the most out of ur investment. Unless ur a ford diehard its really hard to justify. My opinion is if the mustang GT was a dark horse at the same MSRP it would be a great deal and car.
Bro I LOVE that tow hook man. Idk what they're talking about lol It honestly looks great. Just before you started talking about it, I was just about to comment and ask you what tow hook that was and where you got it.
I think it really comes down to which one resonates with you more. I was looking between the two, have driven quite a few 350s and still went with Dark Horse, but only because I wanted a warranty and a car I got to break in myself.
I had both and like the DH better. The gt350 was so low i couldnt leave my driveway without scraping. This was after paying $10k to cut out and reslope the driveway. The other thing is the DH is a numbered chassis that anyone could buy in the first year. Not so with gt350. They made 2015's but us common folk could only get a 2016. The engine in the gt350 though. Its special. I regret having sold it.
These cars are made to handle they are not drag racing cars. They are made for Road Coursing. Take them on a road course, that's true driving for the Dark Horse.
I've owned my 2020 10R80 GT since brand new but have thrown the kitchen sink at it in terms of mods (Whipple, cooling mods, suspension and drive train stuff like carbon drive shaft, wavetrack diff etc). I just cannot justify getting a dark horse or thinking the DH would perform better than my S550.
so for a normal guy who doesn't track/race, just get a used March 1 which cost less than a new GT and it is almost as good as the dark horse? a used 350 might get a bad engine so not a good option for the long run?
I think one of the biggest problems with the motor is it lacks torque. Coming out of a corner, it's like waiting at a bus stop for the power to come on sometimes. That feeling of losing its legs up top is because there's just no torque to get you going outa a corner and that continues through the whole band. A tune and E-85 would wake this motor up
So for that you’ll want the steeda stop the hop kit not the street but enthusiast one , it’ll stop the movement in the back and put the power down in the corners
@@cormaro13 it still doesn't help. Compared to the Camaro SS 1LE, the motor just falls flat. This issue is torque. The 6.2 in the Chevy just out muscles the mustang motor where you need it: driving out of a corner.
Hey there I have a question that maybe someone here can give me an answer to, so I live in Dubai and my Dark Horse which I preordered on day one (yes we get them very late) is due to arrive next week and one of the things it's missing is the handling package which was never available here in the UAE. Now I really want those wider wheels that you get with the performance package and the question I have is how easy it is to do this? Is it just as easy as buying the wider rims? Or are there any other considerations I should be aware of?
Feb 23rd 2024 purchase date. I’ve got almost 7500 miles on my DH premium. It’s my daily and I look for every excuse to take it for a drive . My little kiddos always ask to go on adventures in the darkhorse
Love this!
Lol same, 3172 miles in it. I have as a daily and I don't mind taking it to a further gym since I get to joyride. Loving my DH no regrets.
I love my DH Premium. I have Recaros and the six speed. Got third fastest at Limerock autocross about a month ago. Have about 3300 miles on it and it's a blast. Have fun.
Congrats! Enjoy the car!
I am absolutely in love with mine. I have had the pleasure of driving a lot of mustangs over the years and I use to sell Fords about a decade ago. I contemplated a GT350, but ultimately, I am so happy with it. Much more impressed than I expected to be. Mine is a handling pack premium with recaros and the way it holds to the ground has not ceased to amaze me. I am only at 760 miles right now and haven't been going hard until first oil change, but I see myself only loving it more when I really get on it.
Awesome! Just wait till you try flat foot shifting 😄
For the tow hook I bought a spare cover, drilled a hole in it, put a rubber grommet on and it has a clean look on the front. I agree taking the hook on and off between track events would get old.
Thank you for your great reviews. I really enjoy them. About 1500 miles on a GT premium since May. No performance pack. 6 speed manual. Don't plan to take it to a track. Take both grandkids to a local car show almost weekly. Front facing car seat and booster seat in back. They love riding in it. I have the same vibration/rattle on the left side of the instrument cluster. Happens only occasionally on certain stretches of the highway. But not consistently. If I drive steady at 65 in the right lane, I do get about 27 miles per gallon. But I never do that. Atlas blue. I do get comments. The screens have grown on me as well. Your review of the screens was really helpful. Also love the voice commands and Android Auto. Keep up the great work!
Great review as always. Love the honesty and credibility given your extensive experience with Mustangs. The arguments that take place between the GT and DH folks are plentiful. I’m in the DH camp, but can appreciate the value the GT offers.
Picked up a "used" DH with 598 miles on it about 3 weeks ago as a weekend car. I'm already at 1200 miles and I don't want to stop driving it! I absolutely love almost everything about it. I'm a little concerned about the reliability of the big screen after about 10 years, but we'll see.
Same I bought a “used” one with 1098 miles on it. Saved a ton and practically brand new.
i was gonna get one. But then I thought to myself "Am I going to race on tracks? and go to drag strips?" The answer was no.
Instead got a GR86 and it controls like a dream. And only cost 32k. Beautiful.
Yea not the same , that v8 power and rumble over takes suspension 😂 you can adjust the suspension on that one or a regular gt
If your car breaks down on the track good luck getting it fixed compared to the Mustang
Those screens really kill it for me
I’ll take the screens over the calculator that was on the dash of the base Mustangs pre-2024
Yeah - because the Mustang was always about the dashboard. Lol. The screens are great but don’t matter - it’s all about that V8 kick.
6750 miles since September 19,23. I don't drive daily and trailer to many events, so it blows my mind that it has so much already.
Nice video! Saleen made nice upgrade on the interior - covering the screens.. also, by my taste, on the fron bumper
I like the red tow hook. Not the $125 price. I'm under 2k miles on my DH and it really is a nice handling and great breaking car.
Great review. I’m with you on loving the digital dash, and the Brembo brakes really are very good on the S650.
The dash functionally is fine... my big issue with it, is that people may want to keep these longer than they would in the past.. and it is clearly going to look dated extremely quickly because obviously cars are quickly going to move away from rectangular blocks on top of the dashboard... just giant square screens straight out of a Kia are going to look bad the second the next type of design comes along.... which considering these might be some of the last cars of its kind, is disappointing.
@@MKu64 I think that could be said for many different features and designs of cars from any decade. I view the screens as the current design style, and I think they are done well in the Mustang. Styles will change and who knows what dashboards and instrument clusters will look like in 15 years. I may get tired of the screens or I may continue to like them, but if I stop liking the car then it’s time to move on to the next car.
@@Krisk5.0 I know what you're saying but I personally don't think so.. Most importantly, for me, it's lost a lot of 'style' with that implementation.
The previous gen digital dash was a great middle ground for example, between style and modern function.. and I would have loved to see it as an evolution of that.
The current dash seems like a stepping stone to what it should have been... and probably will be as soon as Kia designs it (sarcasm intended 😂).
@@MKu64 I get what you’re saying, but to me it’s no big deal. I’m not a car collector buying a car to save in a garage for decades. I enjoy cars, but I enjoy them by driving them. I currently like the screen and I love driving my GT on the street and track. When I stop enjoying it, I’ll get something else. It’s just a matter of perspective. I buy cars to enjoy them now. If a new style comes out that makes the current look outdated, and I really like the new style, then that’s what I’ll buy. I’m a driver, not a collector.
@@Krisk5.0 My only issue is that I'm worried I won't be able to get what I want after this... they are getting rid of manuals.. and anything except hybrid/electric/SUVs.. in any other world I would be ok with it.. but it's that potential that I won't be able to just 'get the next thing' that's a problem for me.
In my region with current discounts and finance rates, a fully loaded 2024 GT 401A with Performance Pack AND Magneride is over $25k less than a base Dark Horse after taxes AND interest (600A without the track pack so same MR and tires as GT PP). The GT has employee pricing and lower rates now where as the DH is still at MSRP with higher interest rates. Absolutely insane. A local dealer has five on the lot which have been there for at least 6 months.
@@JCTiggs1 If that’s the case, a loaded GT is definitely the way to go!
Clean looking car! Enjoy it
Nice informative video, agreed. I currently have Mach 1 HP and can't justify an extra 15-20K for the Dark Horse, however I appreciate it.
Mach 1 HP is absolutely no slouch!
Great review!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Two thumbs up to you bro.
Nice looking car great review but idk how anyone can justify the price of a darkhorse. MSRP is as much as a C8 after dealer greed its more money. Then u have the ZL1 1LE more power better handling for the same amount of money. I think the darkhorse is a great car its sexy just way to much money. Its crazy how much cars cost today might just as well get the most out of ur investment.
Unless ur a ford diehard its really hard to justify. My opinion is if the mustang GT was a dark horse at the same MSRP it would be a great deal and car.
Bro I LOVE that tow hook man. Idk what they're talking about lol It honestly looks great. Just before you started talking about it, I was just about to comment and ask you what tow hook that was and where you got it.
@@opinionatedjam Thanks man! ZL1 Add-Ons 👍
I'm shopping for 2019 GT350s. Would you pick your Dark Horse over a 2019-2020 GT350?
In the same boat as you, honestly thinking about getting the gt350 if I can get extended warranty on it
I think it really comes down to which one resonates with you more. I was looking between the two, have driven quite a few 350s and still went with Dark Horse, but only because I wanted a warranty and a car I got to break in myself.
Tough to get a warranty on a used GT350 4 model years out. I’d go for the Dark Horse.
I had both and like the DH better. The gt350 was so low i couldnt leave my driveway without scraping. This was after paying $10k to cut out and reslope the driveway. The other thing is the DH is a numbered chassis that anyone could buy in the first year. Not so with gt350. They made 2015's but us common folk could only get a 2016. The engine in the gt350 though. Its special. I regret having sold it.
Great video!
These cars are made to handle they are not drag racing cars. They are made for Road Coursing. Take them on a road course, that's true driving for the Dark Horse.
I've owned my 2020 10R80 GT since brand new but have thrown the kitchen sink at it in terms of mods (Whipple, cooling mods, suspension and drive train stuff like carbon drive shaft, wavetrack diff etc). I just cannot justify getting a dark horse or thinking the DH would perform better than my S550.
so for a normal guy who doesn't track/race, just get a used March 1 which cost less than a new GT and it is almost as good as the dark horse? a used 350 might get a bad engine so not a good option for the long run?
@@andyy6481 You made a great choice. Mach 1 is an awesome car!
Great review, but is Tremek so much better than the Getrag in GT ?
Yes
Yes… yes it is!
@@therealcervenkaHaving owned 2 vehicles with the MT-82 and 2 with the Tremec, I wholeheartedly agree.
Throw a vengeance clutch in the GT and the getrag gets immensely better, maybe not on par with the tremec but A LOT better than stock.
How did you get it dropped off at your house? Were you able to order it without going to a dealer?
Why is your car idling a little higher than normal? Towards the end of the video… nice tone.. almost as a gt500 idle note
I may have had it on Quiet mode earlier in the video and it was Normal mode by the end. And yes, love the AWE Exhaust!
I think one of the biggest problems with the motor is it lacks torque. Coming out of a corner, it's like waiting at a bus stop for the power to come on sometimes. That feeling of losing its legs up top is because there's just no torque to get you going outa a corner and that continues through the whole band.
A tune and E-85 would wake this motor up
So for that you’ll want the steeda stop the hop kit not the street but enthusiast one , it’ll stop the movement in the back and put the power down in the corners
@@cormaro13 it still doesn't help. Compared to the Camaro SS 1LE, the motor just falls flat. This issue is torque. The 6.2 in the Chevy just out muscles the mustang motor where you need it: driving out of a corner.
If you're not planning to track it or take advantage of the forged bottom-end and supercharge them, then yeah, makes more sense to grab a GT.
Agreed!
Hey there I have a question that maybe someone here can give me an answer to, so I live in Dubai and my Dark Horse which I preordered on day one (yes we get them very late) is due to arrive next week and one of the things it's missing is the handling package which was never available here in the UAE. Now I really want those wider wheels that you get with the performance package and the question I have is how easy it is to do this? Is it just as easy as buying the wider rims? Or are there any other considerations I should be aware of?
Should be as simple as adding the wheels! You may want to pick up the wheel arches that come with the Handling Pack, too.
@@therealcervenka There are separate wheel arches?!
@@Newdeath91 Just plastic pieces that go around the lip on the fender. You can see them pretty well in this photo.
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@@therealcervenka Oh, it looks to me like not having them would not be that big of a deal
Take it on a Road Course. That is what Dark Horses are for.
Stay tuned!
Is The car equipped with a six speed manual transmission??
Yes it is!
@therealcervenka excellent great choice the 6 speed manual transmission is the best way to go in my opinion..enjoy your car she's beautiful.
For the rattle, take it to ford and see if they can add some filler
New car buyer demands really ruin everything.
OH shut up you want the car to wake up and have more power put a Borla sticker on it!
I actually went with AWE 😉
I don't like the Red Tow Hook.
Change the Color of it.