Fun Fact: They’re names are Sun and Moon because in the captions of Security Breach, they are listed as Sun and Moon. Also, Moondrop is the name of the candies, not the animatronic.
The oddest part of Sun/Moon being old is that they do have an AI in then, witch would imply that Faz Ent had sentient AI working in the 80s, witch feels kind of ridiculous even for FNAF standers!
Actually we know the animatronics already had AI at least during fnaf 2 (maybe even the pizzeria the withereds are from) but didnt during fredbears. The reason we know this is its mentioned the animatronics used to be allowed to walk around before the bite of 87, now you could say it was people wearing suits but not only is it phone guy who's telling us this during fnaf 1 but also if was the case, why make the animatronics capable of walking instead of nailing them to the stage or having only their upper body visible? So sure, not sentient AI but still AI.
Not really, considering the Mimic was made in the late 70s to early 80s, they definitely had incredibly advanced tech, even better than things now, they just didn’t need to use it, when what they were already doing was alright as it was.
Well we could theoretically say that Sun/Moon has a chance of being like the other old animatronics and have Remnant in them due to a child or adult being killed in front of them in the past or we could say that the technology in that universe is very advanced because during the 50’s-80’s we have info that the animatronics have a built in AI, a database containing info on criminals to keep the building safe, facial recognition, and the ability to walk on their own or as the others suggest, had the AI placed in it once they got to Fazbear’s Pizza Plex.
I have an idea of how the withered animatronic can still be in the sequel movie beside them being the older version of the FNaF 1 animatronics. My idea is that at the end of the FNaF movie the restaurant collapsed on the animatronics and William and maybe that’s how they become withered and when they re open the restaurant they just stuff them in the parts and service room that how I think it will work
In Help wanted 2 the nightmare level shows an Jack o lantern sun and moon so maybe they were originally a Jack O lantern animatronic at the FallFest before the daycare changed them
If you go and rewatch the fnaf1 trailer from 10 years ago, what would become known as the mimic, even as far as the whole sun and moon theme/subject for it, is there lol and once it clicks that william has always been using to commit and take the blame for his crimes, the entirety of fnaf stops being a mystery
@Twilgih the fnaf1 trailer sets up the theme/concept of duality, explaining how during the day it's a place of joy and fun but that you're there during the night, which makes sense in a story where kids got murdered at a family/safe place. From there, we are shown bonnie moving, like foxy no less, and ends with the endo removing the face mask. This action raises the questions of how and why is the endo self-aware enough to recognize that it's wearing a costume. This then raises a follow-up question for who would have programmed a self-aware robot and for what. The ending also implies that someone is in the other end of the cameras watching; mike is supposed to be a replacement for somebody, right? Since we, the audience, know that William is the killer, the answers and methodology start coming to light since the idea of wearing a person as a skin suit has been a thing since fnaf1 and lines up with a criminal that has the ability to, essentially, create body doubles through the anims to always have an alibi to stay out of jail, even though there's video evidence.
The SKZ Code intro was just precious, and the whole vid was just so adorable. Seeing Changbin drive is always such a shock to me for no reason, he's just so energetic and he seems like the type to accidentally accelerate because of his adorable, loud tendencies 😂😂😂 but vid as a whole is so awesome, y'all are doing so amazing. Love from America!! ❤️❤️❤️
"In the first Bobbidots story we learn that Song is an old theatrical stage animatronic reused for the Daycare." Ah Yes,Song,my favourite animatronic. (Gotta love the wrong captions,so iconic.❤)
I always figured that Sun and Moon were older animatronics because the two buttons on their design look more like toy animatronics than anything, but I didn't know how old they actually could be. What's this new theory?
I got real here Freddy is also strongly implied to have been the same character as Fredbear at one point, possibly decades prior to the main story's events, which would establish him as the single oldest mascot of the franchise.
i'm guessing the timeline went like this : 1. mechanical puppet with human puppeteers (no AI) 2. theater bot with AI (possibly during the sister location era, since baby can mimic people, and the DA shares teeth with the mimic) 3. daycare attendant bot with a repurposed AI (present day) sun really can't get a break
Maybe the concept of sun and moon but not the actual animatronic, as in Ruin we see the animatronic hover, we can assume that even if the shell or names are ols, the endo is completely new. So even though it was originally a stage show doll (these are controlled typically from outside mechanics not in-body mechanics) it would only be in the game as a stage attachment and not likely the active or "sentient" version we know sun and moon as. Also the crying kid is definitely NOT named Travis, Evan, Gregory, or Chris. None of these are confirmed and at best are assumed based on major theory reaches that are not supported in many, if any, ways at all.
What if the next game Cassie goes to the fall fest underground or something because like everything like the fnaf 6 pizzeria, sister location place, and fnaf 4 house is under the pizza plex😂
@@Twilgih I mean, if we haven't seen him at all in history, characters are reused before sb, which got us new characters (poor foxy) like monty, staff bot, cringe, and daycare attendant
I already knew this. Infact they probably already did make a fallfest 1970 game. I mean, you're on a carousel fighting moon, think about it. Also they have the mimic's teeth.
Wait i got an idea bc of the new game comming out which is into the pit with a time traveling ball pit it can go back to that time period and then we can see some stuff idk i think its cool
It's not though, the person that "found" that name in the logbook has stated he had to break his methodology to get A and V as the last two letters since "evan" wasn't even what he got
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For anyone wondering, I posted this the day before the Game Theory video on Fall Fest. We just ended up coming to really similar conclusions 😂
NEW MATPAT?? Lol jk
No you dont
i was about to call you a copycat 💀
Fun Fact: They’re names are Sun and Moon because in the captions of Security Breach, they are listed as Sun and Moon. Also, Moondrop is the name of the candies, not the animatronic.
HOLY SHIT FINALLY
Thanks i got confused with Sundrop And Moondrop.
Thank you! I get so annoyed when people say “oh moondrop is chasing me”
ITS MOON
more fun facts
Even the subtitles say “Sun” and “Moon”
The oddest part of Sun/Moon being old is that they do have an AI in then, witch would imply that Faz Ent had sentient AI working in the 80s, witch feels kind of ridiculous even for FNAF standers!
Though, I could imagine that the AI was added to Sun when he was introduced to the Peziza Plex.
Actually we know the animatronics already had AI at least during fnaf 2 (maybe even the pizzeria the withereds are from) but didnt during fredbears. The reason we know this is its mentioned the animatronics used to be allowed to walk around before the bite of 87, now you could say it was people wearing suits but not only is it phone guy who's telling us this during fnaf 1 but also if was the case, why make the animatronics capable of walking instead of nailing them to the stage or having only their upper body visible? So sure, not sentient AI but still AI.
Not really, considering the Mimic was made in the late 70s to early 80s, they definitely had incredibly advanced tech, even better than things now, they just didn’t need to use it, when what they were already doing was alright as it was.
They have remnant and that’s what’s ridiculous by fnaf standards?
Well we could theoretically say that Sun/Moon has a chance of being like the other old animatronics and have Remnant in them due to a child or adult being killed in front of them in the past or we could say that the technology in that universe is very advanced because during the 50’s-80’s we have info that the animatronics have a built in AI, a database containing info on criminals to keep the building safe, facial recognition, and the ability to walk on their own or as the others suggest, had the AI placed in it once they got to Fazbear’s Pizza Plex.
I love how in every Johnny the Nightguard video, there are always some goofy caption mistakes that keep getting crazier and crazier 😂
Surprisingly there is no caption mistake in this one
Gavin Gonichiwa's captions are also really goofy 😂
@@Girly_pop0w0Balloon Boy ❌
Lil Sh*t ✅
@@BLOODMOONTWINS_SAMSit says soon instead of sun i think
Mr sculptor I’ve found you yet again somehow!
Its funny that matpat predicted this saying that eclipse was actually the first and had truly seen everything
I think if Sun and Moon were in a Fall Fest game they wouldnt be as out of place anymore,i think they would actually fit in pretty well.
I’m all for a Fall Fest with Sun and Moon being in it. 😀👍
I have an idea of how the withered animatronic can still be in the sequel movie beside them being the older version of the FNaF 1 animatronics. My idea is that at the end of the FNaF movie the restaurant collapsed on the animatronics and William and maybe that’s how they become withered and when they re open the restaurant they just stuff them in the parts and service room that how I think it will work
In Help wanted 2 the nightmare level shows an Jack o lantern sun and moon so maybe they were originally a Jack O lantern animatronic at the FallFest before the daycare changed them
A fall fest game would be amazing 🤩
[Dozer: I live the facts in these shorts!]
Oh my god hi dozer!!
@@Colinasada11 [Dozer: ello also I meant to put love instead of live] :0
Lol
"we learn that song"
If you go and rewatch the fnaf1 trailer from 10 years ago, what would become known as the mimic, even as far as the whole sun and moon theme/subject for it, is there lol and once it clicks that william has always been using to commit and take the blame for his crimes, the entirety of fnaf stops being a mystery
Explain more clearly /srs
@Twilgih the fnaf1 trailer sets up the theme/concept of duality, explaining how during the day it's a place of joy and fun but that you're there during the night, which makes sense in a story where kids got murdered at a family/safe place. From there, we are shown bonnie moving, like foxy no less, and ends with the endo removing the face mask. This action raises the questions of how and why is the endo self-aware enough to recognize that it's wearing a costume. This then raises a follow-up question for who would have programmed a self-aware robot and for what. The ending also implies that someone is in the other end of the cameras watching; mike is supposed to be a replacement for somebody, right? Since we, the audience, know that William is the killer, the answers and methodology start coming to light since the idea of wearing a person as a skin suit has been a thing since fnaf1 and lines up with a criminal that has the ability to, essentially, create body doubles through the anims to always have an alibi to stay out of jail, even though there's video evidence.
Fr I LOVED the first non Matpat fnaf game theory. It was better than I thought it was going to be
Ngl Johnny is the best person to figure out Fnaf secrets😭😭😭
I think you’re onto something…
The SKZ Code intro was just precious, and the whole vid was just so adorable. Seeing Changbin drive is always such a shock to me for no reason, he's just so energetic and he seems like the type to accidentally accelerate because of his adorable, loud tendencies 😂😂😂 but vid as a whole is so awesome, y'all are doing so amazing. Love from America!! ❤️❤️❤️
Wow where is everyone also SUN AND MOON ARE SOME OF MY FAVS
Funnily enough, Game Theory (tom i think) made this same theory yesterday
I like how this and the Fnaf game theory thing come together well
"In the first Bobbidots story we learn that Song is an old theatrical stage animatronic reused for the Daycare." Ah Yes,Song,my favourite animatronic. (Gotta love the wrong captions,so iconic.❤)
I love that they are so beloved too. Timeless cause you don't need to change so much to be loved. :3
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Fun fact:Sun and Moon are based off of Jakyl and Hyde.
I always figured that Sun and Moon were older animatronics because the two buttons on their design look more like toy animatronics than anything, but I didn't know how old they actually could be. What's this new theory?
I got real here Freddy is also strongly implied to have been the same character as Fredbear at one point, possibly decades prior to the main story's events, which would establish him as the single oldest mascot of the franchise.
We better get a fredbares game before we ever get that
i'm guessing the timeline went like this :
1. mechanical puppet with human puppeteers (no AI)
2. theater bot with AI (possibly during the sister location era, since baby can mimic people, and the DA shares teeth with the mimic)
3. daycare attendant bot with a repurposed AI (present day)
sun really can't get a break
Killer in purple 2: am i a joke to you?
I guarantee you that this upload was the background footage and captions for game theory’s part lol
I guess we found out... THE MIMIC-
Yes they are old af but some of the BEST ❤ like I love them so much
I thought Travis's name was
Crying child
C.c (other gacha tubers use that name for Travis)
Chris
Congrats on 500K Johnny 🥳🥳🥳
"Travis? Travis Scott!?"
Sun and moon simps gonna love this
u hit 500k subs congrats
Johnny the Night Guard, Subscribed because your videos always make me smile!
As a Turkish, I cannot play chess lol
Nah even game theory taking notes
That would be sooo cool!!!
Hi Johnny, love your content
Omg the Crying Childs Name is Not Travis,Albert Ivan or Ryan actually His Name is Evan,Chris or C.c
Sun and Moon outlived Fredbear and Spring Bonnie THE WHOLE TIME!!!
Sun and moon has more fan than the gramlocks😂😂
Maybe the concept of sun and moon but not the actual animatronic, as in Ruin we see the animatronic hover, we can assume that even if the shell or names are ols, the endo is completely new. So even though it was originally a stage show doll (these are controlled typically from outside mechanics not in-body mechanics) it would only be in the game as a stage attachment and not likely the active or "sentient" version we know sun and moon as.
Also the crying kid is definitely NOT named Travis, Evan, Gregory, or Chris. None of these are confirmed and at best are assumed based on major theory reaches that are not supported in many, if any, ways at all.
If steel wool makes a Fall fest game sun and moon will be there because- video ends without telling us
Lmao Game Theory made a video about this
What if the next game Cassie goes to the fall fest underground or something because like everything like the fnaf 6 pizzeria, sister location place, and fnaf 4 house is under the pizza plex😂
Bro said he was made of wood 💀
Do you not see the metal?!
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He said 'ALMOST woody material' It's wood and metal meshed together I think? Or maybe it just has woody texture
@@Twilgih I mean, if we haven't seen him at all in history, characters are reused before sb, which got us new characters (poor foxy) like monty, staff bot, cringe, and daycare attendant
Me wondering why the crying child is used as someone named travis 🤔
I love sun and moon :D
Fredbear:?
Springbonnie:?
I already knew this. Infact they probably already did make a fallfest 1970 game. I mean, you're on a carousel fighting moon, think about it. Also they have the mimic's teeth.
I knew Sun and moon were the oldest Animatronics because of Matt pat ❤
Someone watched the newest Fnaf GT video lmao
THE MIMIC!!!
Yeah because old animatronics can switch their design in a few seconds
Wait i got an idea bc of the new game comming out which is into the pit with a time traveling ball pit it can go back to that time period and then we can see some stuff idk i think its cool
BRO HIS NAME IS EVAN
They just used him as a stock image for the character
Are you slow?
It's not though, the person that "found" that name in the logbook has stated he had to break his methodology to get A and V as the last two letters since "evan" wasn't even what he got
The game theorist …..
He literally just said my friends name
"Travis"? His name is Evan 💀
Thanks Johnny for the heart
Damn they old as f-
Also in ruin note the teeth they have a very close resemblance to the Mimic's teeth hmmmm...
You are pretty smart not going to lie
Noice then, Great to know. 😊❤
I like how this is just a game theory recap
I made this the day before the Game Theory video 🥲
Leave bro alone 😭
Cool
older then the mimic
THE MIMIC
and matpat said they were the oldest
Sun and moon is my favorite animatronic by the way
As soon as i thought i figured out 1% of fnaf 1-7 i see this fallfest crap in 1970
I agree with this threoy Sun and Moon are not supposed to be in a daycare
They have 5 fingies and only sprinlocks have 5 fingies and animetronic have 4
Alone together had a little bit weird ending
Spoiler:
How do you not know that you were dead all the time?
Who noticed the mimic’s head
Me but i had to pause the video at the perfect timing.
It was obvious.
The crying child is called Evan
probably
@@theraptorblue6675hi
I thought it was Baby?
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Strawberry 🍓🍓🍓🍓🍓
Grape 🍇🍇🍇🍇🍇
Cherries 🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒
Bananas🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Watermelon 🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉
Withered chica I was the first moon and sun no we are😂😂😂😂😂
Who agrees that fnaf security breach is *THE WORST* fnaf game?
Fall Fest
Man steal wool really fucking up the lore i can’t lie
Fnaf should have ended at pizza simulator
They are obviously the oldest animatronics because the Sun and Moon are two of the oldest things in the universe 🙄
they are in the newest games tho…
Fun fact: anything after Fnaf 5 is trash and shouldn’t be considered cannon
Tom🥹❤️
do all black enimtoncs
Travis is cc??
Wait did game theory copy you?
Hello
Tom already covered this. You're late pal
Did bro steal this from a game theory video
No
I'm here
Wah
Nuh uh
Huh