Talk about hitting the head on the nail! You're so right! Again & again several saw, noticed or sensed that Anakin went through things. And they afterwards just let it slide. The greatest example of all is in AOTC. Yoda sensed Anakin's pain of loosing his mother. It's not clear exactly how much in detail Yoda actually sensed what happened. But regardless if Yoda knew that the pain was because of the loss of his mother or the murder of that entire Tusken tribe, NO ONE talked to Anakin about this once the battle of Geonosis was over. Not Yoda or Obi-Wan or anyone else took Anakin to the side & even asked him how he's doing, or what happened. Yoda sensed an emotional Dark Side outburst in a Padawan, the strongest they have, in his Jedi Order. And he did nothing. Did he even ever inform Obi-Wan about it? We don't know. But, if we just go by the films alone, Yoda didn't. Palpatine knew what happened because Anakin felt he could approach this politician about it! And there is something terribly wrong when the Jedi Order can't even have an efficient & working support system for its own members when a Padawan turns to a freaking politician to clear his conscience instead! If Qui-Gon had been around I am confident that Anakin had felt a lot more secure with turning to him for help, support & just having someone to talk to. It's very fascinating to see Obi on the Kenobi show again & again reach out to Qui-Gon for help & advice & support, because he clearly remembers he once had it back in the day, but he never could provide that same need to Anakin. Anakin absolutely praises Obi-Wan for being a great teacher & mentor & even sees him as an older brother. But he also, again & again, says that Obi-Wan never listens, never understands, is constantly over-critical. Even if Anakin was maybe exaggerating those things we all still know this was the very problem. Obi was excellent at teaching Anakin being a Jedi but failed in teaching him to be a good person. To feel safe. That Anakin felt he could not confide in Obi-Wan says it all. Padmé suggested in ROTS that they should ask Obi-Wan for help, Anakin constantly declines her request. Because he knows, or at least he believes, they will not get help but only criticism. Anakin needed to be controlled. But just discipline & never a recognition is not the answer. The tragedy of Anakin is a great example of this.
Literally EVERYONE tried to help him. He almost murdered his own wife when she spoke against him. He was a troubled person who got way too much leash just because he was powerful. But everybody tried to help him in one way or another, he just didn’t want anyone’s help. He wanted everything all at once and when he couldn’t have it, he tried to take it by force. Anakin made those choices, no one else made them for him. He could have stepped away from the Order at any moment he wanted. People should stop divorcing Anakin from his choices.
@@logicaldude3611 You describe Anakin within the time of ROTS, & there you are absolutely correct. But most of us here describe Anakin long before that, when there was still a lot of time & ways to see the signs & step in & help him. And it is THEN basically nobody did! Or they did but not enough by a long shot or the way that truly would help. There is NO excuse that no one ever confronted Anakin about his rage & feelings & doings with the Tusken camp. Yoda knew, did nothing as far as we know. And there will never be any excuse for that. Of course is Anakin fully responsible for his own choices & doings. But there always was plenty of time to save him & help him long before ROTS when he totally stopped listening, when the Dark Side took hold. Yes, he could have left the Order at any time. That I totally agree with. But he was also surrounded by many Masters that all SHOULD have done better for him, especially when he was still a kid, which he was in AOTC. And since he was a special case they should have treated him as such, kept an extra eye. But the Jedi didn't. If people are defending Anakin it's because there are reasons to. Not for his terrible actions but for the help long before then that he should have had every right to receive. What is otherwise the point of having teachers & Masters if they can't do their job & duty?
One of my favorite examples of the love issue involves a Jedi named Jolee Bindo. Jolee fell head over heels for a woman. He loved her, married her, and even took her into the academy. But then she fell to the dark side during Exar Kun's war. Jolee admits that his love blinded him, and it got people killed. But he didn't go "oh the jedi are right", he instead thought it would be better to TEACH love. "Controlling your passions while in love, that's what the Jedi should teach you, but love will not destroy you. In the darkest of times, *love can save you.*"
I've always been very fond of the scene on AOTC when Anakin, Padmé & R2 are on route to Naboo from Coruscant & Anakin explains the whole attachment rule to her. And what I love about Anakin's answer is that he gives her his own interpretation. "Compassion, which I define as unconditional love, is essential to a Jedi's life. So you might say that we are encouraged to love." This very thing, which is Anakin's own opinion about this, is what ultimately ROTJ is all about! That very same compassion, that unconditional love, that makes his son, Luke, to see beyond the mask & cloak of his Sith Lord father & see Anakin Skywalker within. That same unconditional love that is what gives Anakin the courage & strength to break free of the bonds of the Dark Side & Palpatine's control over him & save his son from death, even if it means his own death. Anakin's redemption is unconditional love. THAT is how you beat the Dark Side! The very first time I ever saw AOTC back in 2002 these words from Anakin made me grin ear to ear. And I thought to himself that this young man just spoke of his own redemption right here, to his future wife & mother of his children, one of those being directly involved in this unconditional love. Not all in AOTC is BS & bad writing, not at all if you understand what Lucas was actually saying. Also, the fact that Anakin has this opinion all on his own, he reached this conclusion about compassion & what it means for a Jedi, is directly linked to why he is the Chosen One & the Prophecy. And that he fulfilled this prophecy in the end. I strongly believe that Anakin was created as the Chosen One to guide the Jedi to a more loving path, the path that Qui-Gon firmly believed in as well. But the vast majority of the Jedi just wouldn't hear it, or didn't understand that change was needed. Avoiding love does not keep the Dark Side away, it invites it in.
@@sharpshot6111 I think you confusing Redemption to Atonement. Anakin is redeem by Luke for saving his life and destroying the emperor but couldn’t have atonement to his sins considering he dead.
@@sharpshot6111 No, they would not. However, there is a movie called Return of the Jedi. Perhaps you have heard of it? According to its writer & creator (& co-writer as well) George Lucas, SW as a whole & ROTJ in particular is about Anakin Skywalker's redemption. That is the very word Lucas has used for nearly 40 years now, redemption. And the guy who runs this RUclips channel 100% agrees with this as well, its the very reason why he is SW Theory. SW is a fairy tale, the biggest IP in modern cultural history. Ever since we just had the OT it has always been described by most as a redemption story. The point is that it's not Anakin's countless victims that forgives him. It's us watching SW that is meant to forgive him. SW is told to us, not to them.
I have modeled all my characters, after myself, and Qui-Gon. Liam Neeson portrayed him wonderfully. And it's too bad he's getting older, because a series done about him would be fantastic! Disney, are you paying attention? Liam could narrate the series, as if he's writing a journal...
I remember another former jedi master, wise and powerful, this master told me something about love, that it wasn't what lead to the Dark side, passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled. This master told me passion and love were not the same thing, he told me that controlling passion while you were in love was what the order should teach you to beware of, but love can save you.
I remember talking with my brother and he brought up that with Qui-Gon Jinn there would have been no chance of Darth vader. When I asked for an explanation his response was that Qui-Gon would have made sure he was dead. I know that isn't what this video is about but I find that amusing.
So true, Qui-Gon would have done a good job of separating true love and attachment so that Anakin wouldn’t obsess over his nightmares of Padme. Any time he would have needed someone to confide in, Qui-Gon would reassure him that it will be okay
This is why Qui-gon will always be my favorite Jedi of all time. Even he knew that some laws and rules of the Jedi were ridiculous in the sense that the codes they set go against the very nature of what they are. Instead of mastering control over their emotions and allowing normal emotions to be a part of them, they just focused heavily on detachment which only enforced the rise of negative emotions that specifically drawn dark side influence. Their codes that they made essentially set them up for failure and prevented any of them to fully reach their potential because they locked away essential emotions that would fuel them and of course took away some of their humanity they had. For protectors of peace they did a horrible job maintaining peace within themselves and the Jedi. I guess that’s why only few force users was able to achieve Force ghost form aside from being taught how to do it and why few of them even used some light side abilities that others had because they cut out the thing that essentially makes them whole. Jedi should be in touch with their emotions always but not give in completely to it and especially the bad sides of their emotions like love turning into obsession and stuff like that.
@@Craftmon20 Thank you Craftmon, I appreciate your kind words. I always saw the Jedi as flawed and it bothers me that even after all of that Luke (at least shown with Grogu in Book of Boba) hasn’t learned that lesson yet.
Exactly!!! If I we’re to sum it up: The Jedi ignore their emotions to their detriment and the detriment of the galaxy. The Sith embrace their emotions to their detriment and the detriment of the galaxy. A TRUE Jedi recognizes emotions as part of themselves, both the good and the bad. They control their emotions rather than let the emotions control them. Becoming masters of themselves in all aspects and finding the balance within. Only by balancing themselves can they bring balance to the galaxy as a whole.
@@jeskerjames3260 my man you hit the bullseye right in the center!! A true Jedi would be able to balance the force within and I personally think that if they can use this balance, they could use both Light and Dark to achieve perfect balance, power beyond anyone has ever seen while using it to protect their loved ones and the galaxy as a whole.
@@joxyver I agree with you Luke felt off with Grogu but I think his test has some valid points considering Grogu would outlive Din and Luke so either way he would face lost love one in time if Grogu was in Luke Jedi academy legends he be happy. Plus I was hoping Luke would be like an older and powerful version of Qui Gon in the sequel but we all know what happens.
You made excelent points in the video, Qui-Gon is also my favorite Jedi, so much so that I still mourn that he died so early. So I wanted to see a good future for Anakin with Qui-Gon alive, like a lot of Star Wars fans.
Cant wait for Tales of the Jedi coming out in September!! Where we get to found out about Qui Gon and County Dooku and their relashionship when they were younger.
What an absolutely fantastic and informative video my friend. Qui Gon Jinn is also my favorite jedi or Master Jedi. Your video does make sense in so many ways and it's why Master Qui-Gon wasn't so much about Jedi politics but was more into the force guiding him. Great job in this video my friend. Keep them coming, especially on Master Qui-Gon.
Qui-Gon is a different breed altogether. A very special Jedi who understood not just the force, but human nature, in all it's beauties and flaws, on a level most of his Jedi peers could never bring themselves to grasp or teach among their own, or were just too ignorant to understand, given their prestige. Poor Anakin needed a man like Qui-Gon more than anyone else to seek guidance and confide with, as he'd have truly listened and understood his struggles more so than even Obi-Wan, who I'd argue simply abided too rigidly to the Jedi's often virtuous yet close-minded teachings and outlook, especially towards human relationships, sometimes to an unrealistic degree.
Qui-Gon IS the best of the Jedi...he embodies what the Jedi should have been. To remove any and all temptation is no way to prepare for when it happens. Feel your emotions, recognize what they are and control them. Avoidance is not Preparation The Jedi did it to themselves through their own teachings...Vader was inevitable without Qui-Gon's
By seeing Qui-Gon as more of a father figure and also saw a bit of a rebel in him, Anakin definitely would've went to Qui-Gon and told him about Padmé and the baby. In turn, Qui-Gon would've done anything it took to protect Anakin from expulsion. Obi-Wan would've only done so much. As much as I like Obi-Wan, he is kind of a jerk.
Obi was disciplined and not a weak coward, only the best become Jedi, only the best fight evil urges ..... Qui-Gon got smoked 1 on 1 with Maul and Obi avenged him 2 times, Qui-Gon was awesome for sure but he was inferior to Obi in the grand scheme.
I wonder if had Yoda and the council had compromised with Obi-wan, if the galaxy could have been saved. Say, instead of Obi-wan training Anakin, they gave him their promise that Anakin would be trained, but with an older master who would be able to handle such a niche case.
Obviously Qui-Gon understood the importance of attachments. Anakin would feel willingly to ask him for advice, and he would've been able to aid Anakin in grappling with the loss of his mother Shmi. Stepping up to the role of nurturing him contending with those premonitions of Padmé, where Anakin learns to be less contingent on his feelings having more maturity
As much as people like making the joke that Qui-Gon doomed the galaxy for bringing Anakin to the Jedi order... Qui-Gon didn't fail Anakin... The Jedi did... "I have failed you Anakin... I have failed you..."
One of the greatest sacrifices of love is one's devotion to the other. The selflessness, the commitment. One of the greatest expressions of love is letting go. Accepting working though grief, sadness, pain while knowing it was the right choice. The Jedi failed Anakin on both parts.
I think if Qui-gon hadn't died he wouldn't be having visions of Padmes death at all, because as Qui-gon said "Anikin see things before they happen" so Anikin wouldn't go to Palpatine for advice, he would've stopped him, and Padme would still be alive and wouldn't die of a broken heart.
Looked yesterday on Ep IV with my kids. It would be perfect with a second season of Kenobi were the fundamental underlying theme is for Qui-Gon and Kenobi to together finding the answers to how to support Luke into becoming a jedi without making the same mistakes as with Anakin who fall to the dark side. And through that get the answer for what happened when Vader killed Kenobi. When looking at Ep IV Kenobis behavior always hints an underlying plan, ending up in himself letting himself be killed by Vader in front of Luke.
I can see why Qui-Gon never wanted to join the Jedi Council. He had the opposite feelings on what the Jedi would have. Had he been alive he would’ve told Anakin that having those feelings were normal. Especially when it comes to trusting a politician like Padme. I wish he could’ve told Obi-Wan this also.
I know it will never happen but I would love it if they did some movies or a show just following the alternate timeline of what if Qui Gon won and trained Anakin.
Explains why when obi wan had flashback of leia and Luke, he was able to tap into live and defeat vader, finally being able to see qui gon. This explains why he was finally able to se him
I really hope that if there is a season 2 of ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ that it follows Obi and Qui-Gon and maybe they could be sharing story’s and we get flashbacks as well as training sequences.
This would be a great what-if storyline if Qui-Gon hadn't tied. Perhaps a world view ashoka could peek in on in her world among worlds? Idk, just throwing my thoughts out there
They need to do a Vader movie or series that takes place between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back where Vader finds out Luke is his son. I wanna see he how he handled that in the moment. I'm guessing he tried to keep it secret at first and went on a killing spree with any Imperial who knew about it so Emperor Palpatine wouldn't find out. But obviously he ends up failing because Palpatine knows everything.
Didn't the Jedi ban romantic relationships and other attachments because time and time again Jedi would turn to the dark side when they lost someone? And it worked, there was peace and balance for 1000 years before the clone wars and the sith's reign was very short in comparison.
They fell into the dark side because they were not trained to control their emotions on what is love and what is passion/Obsession. And let’s say that when they fell to the dark side it was probably because they wanted to seek revenge which would help them open their eyes and realize the actions they took to get to that point would be wrong and ultimately adjust themselves. However what probably happened was that at this point the Jedi were becoming to skeptical about the emotions and the connection to the dark side so they would forbid or prevent vengeance and or any way to absolve the personal conflict of the victim, thus leading them to a darker path since those who were in the light refused to help the individuals. A sad truth that the Jedi refused to believe was that where there is light there is always dark, and they tried to ensure that only light prevails by putting these codes and rules which yes worked for a time, but all it did was make the dark side itself stronger, more cunning and most of all, gave them opportunities to slip into the cracks of the Jedi and corrupt some of them from within to spread their influence. Balance is key for the Jedi, and with that balance between light and dark side is ultimately what would be proven time and time again as such examples as Mace windu, Anakin skywalker, Luke skywalker (at least in episode 6) and Galen marek “Starkiller” and many more from even Star Wars legends that would lead them being the most powerful users of the force and saber while protecting what mattered to them and even the galaxy itself.
They had a 1,000 years of peace because the Sith went into hiding. As for the Jedi Order’s part in it?: Their position led to a 1,000 years over which the Jedi slowly lost their connection to the Force to the point that they nearly stopped listening to it for guidance and such that even their strongest and wisest could not fathom that they were taking their orders from a Sith Lord whom they meet with regularly and all it took to bring the Order down was to ditch their charter to be peacekeepers and an emotionally troubled young Jedi afraid of personal loss that any level headed father figure or a good friend or a counselor should’ve been able to help straighten out if they cared enough to listen, really listen, when the boy came to them for help or guidance.
The thing about it is that possessive love to Lucas is what attachment actually is when he defines it in interviews. Possessive love, which Quigon viewed as the issue, is what Lucas has defined attachment as. George has stated that the Jedi can love but not to the point of possession. Anakin wasent wrong for loving Padme, but he by mouth of the creator had an issue confusing compassionate love with possessive love. He wasn't content with merely loving her, he married her and saw him in TCW being jealous and possessive many a times (especially with Clovis). I honestly don't believe that Anakin would not have fallen if Quigon was around still (which Dave believed), simply because the issue with Anakin in the end was his own selfishness. His visions of Padme dying were just that, visions, they were not concrete. He reached out for help while hiding the actual truth of his fears, but nothing could have been done regardless. Padme was fine medically speaking and no amount of force healing would have saved her, because the thing that killed her in the end wasent illness but Anakins own decision to sell his soul and the galaxy's fate to save her. The reason for Anakin's fall was his attachments and his inability to let them go when needed. Obiwan and Quigon's force ghost discussed the matter in Master and Apprentice. Anakin despite everything was a fully fledged knight and fought valiantly for years, his training was already complete,. He had the wisdom and power to make the right choice, but he didnt.
Here's a suggestion finally carry on the time travel animation where Luke and Darth Vader/anakin go back in time last year went off their going to go to episode 1 before Obi-Wan Kenobi is trainer died
Well, he's not from the original trilogy. And the sad fact is that he had to die, so anakin can become Darth Vader in the future. Also because palpatine had maul ordered to kill him, because it would foil his plans if qui gon lived.
Jedi don't allow love because offspring. It's too hard to keep track of all the force sensitives that could turn to the sith. Jedi was fearful of sith fear led to anger anger to hate and hate to suffering and not detecting Palpatine
There's a horrible issue of Star Wars Tales where Qui-gon explains to Obi-wan why jedi are forbidden to love, the reason was really stupid and Qui-gon acted incredibly out of character, he seemed to lecture to Obi-wan that jedi shouldn't love and suported it, if you know Qui-gon Jinn at all you should know that, that's not what Qui-gon would say to Obi-wan or anybody. The good news is the Star Wars tales comics aren't cannon not just to Disney cannon but neither to Darkhorse cannon either, so it's all good.
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
So what the only Jedi in Star Wars who could have saved Anakin Skywalker and make him more powerful and be with Padme was Qui-Gon right not Mace Windu or Kenobi or any other Jedi
That's because of ideology within being a jedi. It's about ideology and belief not skill/power. Qui was unique as he, had a different perspective on what it means to be a Jedi. Something Mace and yoda disagreed with.
@@TheFirehands150 I agree he is what a Jedi should be but historically Jedi have been so afraid of falling to the dark side they try to go all the way to the other side of the spectrum which only itself leads to the dark side where as gray Jedi are tools for the force they are led by the will of the force instead of bending the force to there will like sith and the Jedi council do
Well, the name Qui-Gon Jinn can be roughly interpreted as meaning; ‘a spirit in balance’. But to answer the question; Canonically, there is no such thing as a Grey Jedi. That implies a disciplined Jedi that’s neither a Lightsider or a Darksider, or their actions neither good nor evil, and that just doesn’t make sense. Of course you can define it differently, but we’ll have to leave that as a philosophical debate since Lucas wasn’t entirely clear on issue of Balance nor about Jedi that were out of alinement with the Jedi Council traditionalists. My personal take is that a Grey Jedi is one that’s increasingly pressing the limits between right and wrong, in danger of falling to the Darkside. Examples; Anakin Quinlan Vos Jacen Solo The Revanchists Juhani And we saw a few others in the Clone Wars CGI series. It’s always a tossup as to whether they ultimately fell to the Darkside or came back to the Light thanks to intervention by their fellow Jedi.
@@eds1942 so you wouldn't consider those who left the order like Ashoka or those who were forced out but still follow the light side teachings but just not as strictly like a post Jedi counsel Luke or even canin jaris who followed the teachings of the Jedi but obviously had a relationship had a child but was led by the will of the force instead of rules and regulations of the order? I'm just curious I honestly don't know and I like making conversation not trying to argue hahaha
@@Zypher2887 If I understand you right, that’s one way to define a Grey Jedi. A Jedi that’s out of alinement with the Council. A Jedi that’s likely on some Jedi Council member/s watch list for whatever reason. A Jedi that can scapegoated by the Order to save face with the public. Yes, Ahsoka would fit that definition of a Grey Jedi. Though she was definitely a Lightsider. No, I don’t think that Qui-Gon would entirely fit that definition since the Council had not only granted him the rank of Master and gave him the apprentice of his choice. They respected him enough to seriously consider his take on the Chosen One prophecy and to honor his dying request that Anakin be trained as a Jedi by Obi-Wan. Going so far to grant Obi-Wan the rank of Knight without trails and a apprentice without himself having a Master. Despite his differences with the Council, there was no mistrust between them. They knew that he followed the Will of the Force, but they didn’t have the same luxury as him to be fully trusting in it since they also had their obligations to the Senate. And Council seats aren’t for everybody. Just as some people are better suited as doctors or the military/police or as teachers or lawyers or financial managers or sports players and entertainers or cooks or seamstresses or…, to place them in something else will naw at them and drain their spirit, they simply won’t be as good, successful, focused or content as they could be.
Palpatine requested that Anakin be granted a seat on the Jedi Council and a promotion to the rank of Jedi Master. The Jedi Council meet him halfway by granting Palpatine’s request for Anakin to have a seat in the Council. The Masters correctly suspected that Palpatine wanted Anakin on the Council to spy in on them as well as to be his voice in meetings, and chose to play into that by giving Anakin a seat on condition that he spied on Palpatine. Either way, the Jedi of this era were answerable to the Senate and the Senate’s requests had to at least be considered by the Council.
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Everyone looked at Anakin Skywalker and said "damn he needs some help." and no one ever did.
Talk about hitting the head on the nail! You're so right! Again & again several saw, noticed or sensed that Anakin went through things. And they afterwards just let it slide. The greatest example of all is in AOTC. Yoda sensed Anakin's pain of loosing his mother. It's not clear exactly how much in detail Yoda actually sensed what happened. But regardless if Yoda knew that the pain was because of the loss of his mother or the murder of that entire Tusken tribe, NO ONE talked to Anakin about this once the battle of Geonosis was over. Not Yoda or Obi-Wan or anyone else took Anakin to the side & even asked him how he's doing, or what happened. Yoda sensed an emotional Dark Side outburst in a Padawan, the strongest they have, in his Jedi Order. And he did nothing. Did he even ever inform Obi-Wan about it? We don't know. But, if we just go by the films alone, Yoda didn't. Palpatine knew what happened because Anakin felt he could approach this politician about it! And there is something terribly wrong when the Jedi Order can't even have an efficient & working support system for its own members when a Padawan turns to a freaking politician to clear his conscience instead!
If Qui-Gon had been around I am confident that Anakin had felt a lot more secure with turning to him for help, support & just having someone to talk to. It's very fascinating to see Obi on the Kenobi show again & again reach out to Qui-Gon for help & advice & support, because he clearly remembers he once had it back in the day, but he never could provide that same need to Anakin. Anakin absolutely praises Obi-Wan for being a great teacher & mentor & even sees him as an older brother. But he also, again & again, says that Obi-Wan never listens, never understands, is constantly over-critical. Even if Anakin was maybe exaggerating those things we all still know this was the very problem. Obi was excellent at teaching Anakin being a Jedi but failed in teaching him to be a good person. To feel safe. That Anakin felt he could not confide in Obi-Wan says it all. Padmé suggested in ROTS that they should ask Obi-Wan for help, Anakin constantly declines her request. Because he knows, or at least he believes, they will not get help but only criticism. Anakin needed to be controlled. But just discipline & never a recognition is not the answer. The tragedy of Anakin is a great example of this.
Obi turned him into a beef brisket
@@Imylover great comment, you are exactly right. Honestly the Jedi should have had a talk session for mental health.
Literally EVERYONE tried to help him. He almost murdered his own wife when she spoke against him. He was a troubled person who got way too much leash just because he was powerful. But everybody tried to help him in one way or another, he just didn’t want anyone’s help. He wanted everything all at once and when he couldn’t have it, he tried to take it by force.
Anakin made those choices, no one else made them for him. He could have stepped away from the Order at any moment he wanted.
People should stop divorcing Anakin from his choices.
@@logicaldude3611 You describe Anakin within the time of ROTS, & there you are absolutely correct. But most of us here describe Anakin long before that, when there was still a lot of time & ways to see the signs & step in & help him. And it is THEN basically nobody did! Or they did but not enough by a long shot or the way that truly would help. There is NO excuse that no one ever confronted Anakin about his rage & feelings & doings with the Tusken camp. Yoda knew, did nothing as far as we know. And there will never be any excuse for that.
Of course is Anakin fully responsible for his own choices & doings. But there always was plenty of time to save him & help him long before ROTS when he totally stopped listening, when the Dark Side took hold. Yes, he could have left the Order at any time. That I totally agree with. But he was also surrounded by many Masters that all SHOULD have done better for him, especially when he was still a kid, which he was in AOTC. And since he was a special case they should have treated him as such, kept an extra eye. But the Jedi didn't.
If people are defending Anakin it's because there are reasons to. Not for his terrible actions but for the help long before then that he should have had every right to receive. What is otherwise the point of having teachers & Masters if they can't do their job & duty?
One of my favorite examples of the love issue involves a Jedi named Jolee Bindo. Jolee fell head over heels for a woman. He loved her, married her, and even took her into the academy. But then she fell to the dark side during Exar Kun's war. Jolee admits that his love blinded him, and it got people killed. But he didn't go "oh the jedi are right", he instead thought it would be better to TEACH love.
"Controlling your passions while in love, that's what the Jedi should teach you, but love will not destroy you. In the darkest of times, *love can save you.*"
I've always been very fond of the scene on AOTC when Anakin, Padmé & R2 are on route to Naboo from Coruscant & Anakin explains the whole attachment rule to her. And what I love about Anakin's answer is that he gives her his own interpretation. "Compassion, which I define as unconditional love, is essential to a Jedi's life. So you might say that we are encouraged to love." This very thing, which is Anakin's own opinion about this, is what ultimately ROTJ is all about! That very same compassion, that unconditional love, that makes his son, Luke, to see beyond the mask & cloak of his Sith Lord father & see Anakin Skywalker within. That same unconditional love that is what gives Anakin the courage & strength to break free of the bonds of the Dark Side & Palpatine's control over him & save his son from death, even if it means his own death. Anakin's redemption is unconditional love. THAT is how you beat the Dark Side! The very first time I ever saw AOTC back in 2002 these words from Anakin made me grin ear to ear. And I thought to himself that this young man just spoke of his own redemption right here, to his future wife & mother of his children, one of those being directly involved in this unconditional love. Not all in AOTC is BS & bad writing, not at all if you understand what Lucas was actually saying.
Also, the fact that Anakin has this opinion all on his own, he reached this conclusion about compassion & what it means for a Jedi, is directly linked to why he is the Chosen One & the Prophecy. And that he fulfilled this prophecy in the end. I strongly believe that Anakin was created as the Chosen One to guide the Jedi to a more loving path, the path that Qui-Gon firmly believed in as well. But the vast majority of the Jedi just wouldn't hear it, or didn't understand that change was needed. Avoiding love does not keep the Dark Side away, it invites it in.
Anakin redeemed? I wonder if the trillions he had a hand in slaughtering would think the same?
@@sharpshot6111 I think you confusing Redemption to Atonement. Anakin is redeem by Luke for saving his life and destroying the emperor but couldn’t have atonement to his sins considering he dead.
Finally some who appreciate attack of the clones Anakin in that movie was a awkward teenager who didn’t had hard time understanding his feelings.
@@sharpshot6111 No, they would not. However, there is a movie called Return of the Jedi. Perhaps you have heard of it? According to its writer & creator (& co-writer as well) George Lucas, SW as a whole & ROTJ in particular is about Anakin Skywalker's redemption. That is the very word Lucas has used for nearly 40 years now, redemption. And the guy who runs this RUclips channel 100% agrees with this as well, its the very reason why he is SW Theory. SW is a fairy tale, the biggest IP in modern cultural history. Ever since we just had the OT it has always been described by most as a redemption story. The point is that it's not Anakin's countless victims that forgives him. It's us watching SW that is meant to forgive him. SW is told to us, not to them.
I have modeled all my characters, after myself, and Qui-Gon. Liam Neeson portrayed him wonderfully. And it's too bad he's getting older, because a series done about him would be fantastic! Disney, are you paying attention? Liam could narrate the series, as if he's writing a journal...
That's just a wonderful idea!
He said he didn't want to come back because he's done
I remember another former jedi master, wise and powerful, this master told me something about love, that it wasn't what lead to the Dark side, passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled.
This master told me passion and love were not the same thing, he told me that controlling passion while you were in love was what the order should teach you to beware of, but love can save you.
Qui-Gon is definitely one of the, if not *the best* Jedi. I hope we get to see more of him in Kenobi Season 2
is kenobi season 2 official?
@@rodriguezsamuel4591 for how popular it was and how the cast said they would do it again, it can be very likely
No he isn't, he lost to Maul EASILY and Obi beat Maul on his own TWICE
I like what Jolee Bindo says in KOTOR where passion leads to the dark side while love redeems.
Just look at Kanan.
He wasn’t afraid to embarrass his love for hera and his friends
Kanan is underrated tbh
I remember talking with my brother and he brought up that with Qui-Gon Jinn there would have been no chance of Darth vader. When I asked for an explanation his response was that Qui-Gon would have made sure he was dead.
I know that isn't what this video is about but I find that amusing.
So true, Qui-Gon would have done a good job of separating true love and attachment so that Anakin wouldn’t obsess over his nightmares of Padme. Any time he would have needed someone to confide in, Qui-Gon would reassure him that it will be okay
This is why Qui-gon will always be my favorite Jedi of all time. Even he knew that some laws and rules of the Jedi were ridiculous in the sense that the codes they set go against the very nature of what they are. Instead of mastering control over their emotions and allowing normal emotions to be a part of them, they just focused heavily on detachment which only enforced the rise of negative emotions that specifically drawn dark side influence. Their codes that they made essentially set them up for failure and prevented any of them to fully reach their potential because they locked away essential emotions that would fuel them and of course took away some of their humanity they had. For protectors of peace they did a horrible job maintaining peace within themselves and the Jedi. I guess that’s why only few force users was able to achieve Force ghost form aside from being taught how to do it and why few of them even used some light side abilities that others had because they cut out the thing that essentially makes them whole. Jedi should be in touch with their emotions always but not give in completely to it and especially the bad sides of their emotions like love turning into obsession and stuff like that.
Damn, A+ on that masterpiece of an essay!
@@Craftmon20 Thank you Craftmon, I appreciate your kind words. I always saw the Jedi as flawed and it bothers me that even after all of that Luke (at least shown with Grogu in Book of Boba) hasn’t learned that lesson yet.
Exactly!!! If I we’re to sum it up: The Jedi ignore their emotions to their detriment and the detriment of the galaxy. The Sith embrace their emotions to their detriment and the detriment of the galaxy. A TRUE Jedi recognizes emotions as part of themselves, both the good and the bad. They control their emotions rather than let the emotions control them. Becoming masters of themselves in all aspects and finding the balance within. Only by balancing themselves can they bring balance to the galaxy as a whole.
@@jeskerjames3260 my man you hit the bullseye right in the center!! A true Jedi would be able to balance the force within and I personally think that if they can use this balance, they could use both Light and Dark to achieve perfect balance, power beyond anyone has ever seen while using it to protect their loved ones and the galaxy as a whole.
@@joxyver I agree with you Luke felt off with Grogu but I think his test has some valid points considering Grogu would outlive Din and Luke so either way he would face lost love one in time if Grogu was in Luke Jedi academy legends he be happy. Plus I was hoping Luke would be like an older and powerful version of Qui Gon in the sequel but we all know what happens.
You made excelent points in the video, Qui-Gon is also my favorite Jedi, so much so that I still mourn that he died so early. So I wanted to see a good future for Anakin with Qui-Gon alive, like a lot of Star Wars fans.
Qui-Gon never gave up on Anakin, he knew that Luke's love for his father would bring him back to the light.
So ahead of he's time and many ways Saved the Galaxy by Anakin Skywalker, And discovery of becoming a Force Ghost💚⚡ Awesome video General Theory 🤘
Cant wait for Tales of the Jedi coming out in September!! Where we get to found out about Qui Gon and County Dooku and their relashionship when they were younger.
What an absolutely fantastic and informative video my friend. Qui Gon Jinn is also my favorite jedi or Master Jedi. Your video does make sense in so many ways and it's why Master Qui-Gon wasn't so much about Jedi politics but was more into the force guiding him. Great job in this video my friend. Keep them coming, especially on Master Qui-Gon.
Wow I’m never this early keep up the good work by the way.
Audiences watching Star Wars in 1977: 😀 "What a fun space movie"
Audiences now:
Qui-Gon is a different breed altogether. A very special Jedi who understood not just the force, but human nature, in all it's beauties and flaws, on a level most of his Jedi peers could never bring themselves to grasp or teach among their own, or were just too ignorant to understand, given their prestige. Poor Anakin needed a man like Qui-Gon more than anyone else to seek guidance and confide with, as he'd have truly listened and understood his struggles more so than even Obi-Wan, who I'd argue simply abided too rigidly to the Jedi's often virtuous yet close-minded teachings and outlook, especially towards human relationships, sometimes to an unrealistic degree.
I would love for Claudia Gray to write a trilogy of novels about Qui-Gon’s life
Super excited for tales of the jedi, seeing a young dooku and qui-gon
Qui-Gon IS the best of the Jedi...he embodies what the Jedi should have been.
To remove any and all temptation is no way to prepare for when it happens. Feel your emotions, recognize what they are and control them.
Avoidance is not Preparation
The Jedi did it to themselves through their own teachings...Vader was inevitable without Qui-Gon's
Amazing video Theory!!
the video just dropped how can you have watched the full vid? don’t be a clout chaser
How can you have seen the full video? You must be a clout chaser. So uncivilized.
@@josh_7345 this is not the clout chaser you are looking for
@@josh_7345 not that deep
Let's be clear, Liam Neeson Made Qui Gon Ginn Epic 😌
That's very true. He was such a goat as Qui-gon Jinn even before he even appeared in more action movies a little later down the line.
Great video Theory, really enjoyed this one 🙏
Thank you for this video.
By seeing Qui-Gon as more of a father figure and also saw a bit of a rebel in him, Anakin definitely would've went to Qui-Gon and told him about Padmé and the baby. In turn, Qui-Gon would've done anything it took to protect Anakin from expulsion. Obi-Wan would've only done so much. As much as I like Obi-Wan, he is kind of a jerk.
I don’t know why Obi-Wan followed what the Council wanted and not what his own master wanted.
Obi was disciplined and not a weak coward, only the best become Jedi, only the best fight evil urges ..... Qui-Gon got smoked 1 on 1 with Maul and Obi avenged him 2 times, Qui-Gon was awesome for sure but he was inferior to Obi in the grand scheme.
Qui-Gon would have just told Anakin to leave the Order if he wanted to live that life. It’s really that simple.
I wonder if had Yoda and the council had compromised with Obi-wan, if the galaxy could have been saved. Say, instead of Obi-wan training Anakin, they gave him their promise that Anakin would be trained, but with an older master who would be able to handle such a niche case.
Qui-Gon could’ve single-handedly saved the galaxy
Watto not accepting republic credits doomed the galaxy
i mean couldn't save himself...so no.
qui gon overrated
Damn Darth Maul killing him. How did he survive being stabbed in the chest and being cut in half, but Qui-gon was killed by a stab through the chest?
@@starwarsjoey228 Sorry, what?
Obviously Qui-Gon understood the importance of attachments. Anakin would feel willingly to ask him for advice, and he would've been able to aid Anakin in grappling with the loss of his mother Shmi. Stepping up to the role of nurturing him contending with those premonitions of Padmé, where Anakin learns to be less contingent on his feelings having more maturity
As much as people like making the joke that Qui-Gon doomed the galaxy for bringing Anakin to the Jedi order...
Qui-Gon didn't fail Anakin... The Jedi did...
"I have failed you Anakin... I have failed you..."
Love can't save you Padme... only my new powers can
Qui-Gon is so awesome it would be so awesome if the Jedi master got his own series or at least when he was an apprentice of count dooku
Anakin was basically a simp with some powers
the most powerful simp in the galaxy
@@zKenaboss now that’s a title
Another reason why Qui Gonn is one of my favorite SW characters.
Love these 5 minute videos on little topics like this. Disney can’t fuck up young qui gon
I'm happy for you to share my thoughts and I will show yoda this video to prove him wrong
Incredible content
Qui-Gon Jinn and Kanan Jarrus are what the Jedi should've been.
Qui-Gon spot-on as always
He sees things before they happen it’s why he appears to have such quick reflexes it’s a Jedi trait 😎
One of the greatest sacrifices of love is one's devotion to the other. The selflessness, the commitment.
One of the greatest expressions of love is letting go. Accepting working though grief, sadness, pain while knowing it was the right choice.
The Jedi failed Anakin on both parts.
This sort of detail is what’s missing in Star Wars nowadays!!👍❤️
To me, the coolest what if situation would be if qui-gon beat maul and maybe had a larger place in other events. Would be sick to see
I think if Qui-gon hadn't died he wouldn't be having visions of Padmes death at all, because as Qui-gon said "Anikin see things before they happen" so Anikin wouldn't go to Palpatine for advice, he would've stopped him, and Padme would still be alive and wouldn't die of a broken heart.
Looked yesterday on Ep IV with my kids. It would be perfect with a second season of Kenobi were the fundamental underlying theme is for Qui-Gon and Kenobi to together finding the answers to how to support Luke into becoming a jedi without making the same mistakes as with Anakin who fall to the dark side. And through that get the answer for what happened when Vader killed Kenobi. When looking at Ep IV Kenobis behavior always hints an underlying plan, ending up in himself letting himself be killed by Vader in front of Luke.
Him and Dooku are so underrated it annoys me that they aren’t as well known to the general public as Vader.
I can see why Qui-Gon never wanted to join the Jedi Council. He had the opposite feelings on what the Jedi would have. Had he been alive he would’ve told Anakin that having those feelings were normal. Especially when it comes to trusting a politician like Padme. I wish he could’ve told Obi-Wan this also.
My fav Jedi and action figure
I know it will never happen but I would love it if they did some movies or a show just following the alternate timeline of what if Qui Gon won and trained Anakin.
Qui-Gon sure was fantastic.
Explains why when obi wan had flashback of leia and Luke, he was able to tap into live and defeat vader, finally being able to see qui gon. This explains why he was finally able to se him
Love will not condemn you
- Jolee Bindo
I really hope that if there is a season 2 of ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ that it follows Obi and Qui-Gon and maybe they could
be sharing story’s and we get flashbacks as well as training sequences.
This would be a great what-if storyline if Qui-Gon hadn't tied. Perhaps a world view ashoka could peek in on in her world among worlds? Idk, just throwing my thoughts out there
They need to do a Vader movie or series that takes place between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back where Vader finds out Luke is his son. I wanna see he how he handled that in the moment. I'm guessing he tried to keep it secret at first and went on a killing spree with any Imperial who knew about it so Emperor Palpatine wouldn't find out. But obviously he ends up failing because Palpatine knows everything.
Qui Gon's lightsaber btw is S tier
I sense a new fanfic possibly
Any beginning of Star Wars stories? Like where it all first started?
Qui Gon is super wise.
Just think if the Jedi Masters knew about Anakin and Padme maybe Mace could have used that connection to break the grip the dark side.
Instead of Anakin killing him.
Didn't the Jedi ban romantic relationships and other attachments because time and time again Jedi would turn to the dark side when they lost someone? And it worked, there was peace and balance for 1000 years before the clone wars and the sith's reign was very short in comparison.
They fell into the dark side because they were not trained to control their emotions on what is love and what is passion/Obsession. And let’s say that when they fell to the dark side it was probably because they wanted to seek revenge which would help them open their eyes and realize the actions they took to get to that point would be wrong and ultimately adjust themselves. However what probably happened was that at this point the Jedi were becoming to skeptical about the emotions and the connection to the dark side so they would forbid or prevent vengeance and or any way to absolve the personal conflict of the victim, thus leading them to a darker path since those who were in the light refused to help the individuals. A sad truth that the Jedi refused to believe was that where there is light there is always dark, and they tried to ensure that only light prevails by putting these codes and rules which yes worked for a time, but all it did was make the dark side itself stronger, more cunning and most of all, gave them opportunities to slip into the cracks of the Jedi and corrupt some of them from within to spread their influence. Balance is key for the Jedi, and with that balance between light and dark side is ultimately what would be proven time and time again as such examples as Mace windu, Anakin skywalker, Luke skywalker (at least in episode 6) and Galen marek “Starkiller” and many more from even Star Wars legends that would lead them being the most powerful users of the force and saber while protecting what mattered to them and even the galaxy itself.
They had a 1,000 years of peace because the Sith went into hiding.
As for the Jedi Order’s part in it?:
Their position led to a 1,000 years over which the Jedi slowly lost their connection to the Force to the point that they nearly stopped listening to it for guidance and such that even their strongest and wisest could not fathom that they were taking their orders from a Sith Lord whom they meet with regularly and all it took to bring the Order down was to ditch their charter to be peacekeepers and an emotionally troubled young Jedi afraid of personal loss that any level headed father figure or a good friend or a counselor should’ve been able to help straighten out if they cared enough to listen, really listen, when the boy came to them for help or guidance.
@@joxyver didn't George Lucas say that balance in the force is the light side as it is the dark side that corrupts it and sends it out of balance?
The thing about it is that possessive love to Lucas is what attachment actually is when he defines it in interviews. Possessive love, which Quigon viewed as the issue, is what Lucas has defined attachment as. George has stated that the Jedi can love but not to the point of possession. Anakin wasent wrong for loving Padme, but he by mouth of the creator had an issue confusing compassionate love with possessive love. He wasn't content with merely loving her, he married her and saw him in TCW being jealous and possessive many a times (especially with Clovis). I honestly don't believe that Anakin would not have fallen if Quigon was around still (which Dave believed), simply because the issue with Anakin in the end was his own selfishness. His visions of Padme dying were just that, visions, they were not concrete. He reached out for help while hiding the actual truth of his fears, but nothing could have been done regardless. Padme was fine medically speaking and no amount of force healing would have saved her, because the thing that killed her in the end wasent illness but Anakins own decision to sell his soul and the galaxy's fate to save her. The reason for Anakin's fall was his attachments and his inability to let them go when needed. Obiwan and Quigon's force ghost discussed the matter in Master and Apprentice. Anakin despite everything was a fully fledged knight and fought valiantly for years, his training was already complete,. He had the wisdom and power to make the right choice, but he didnt.
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If Obi had used force speed then would Dooku maybe not become Tyranus and Anakin would not become Vader.
Getting more and more Into Star Wars I don’t why you can’t fall in love with someone if you are in Jedi order but no they didn’t
He could have Def saved him as he would be like a father figure
Hey I have an idea for a video what if darth maul killed obi wan and qui gon what would of happened to anakin???
Light side Count Dooku, fun fact, Qui-Gon was TRAINED by Dooku lol
It's me!
Can you make a Star Wars theory on what happened to Darth Vader’s light saber after return of the Jedi
Didn't it fall down the shaft of the death star after luke cut his robot hand off? Probably was destroyed in the death star explosion
@@two-bearshigh-fiving9293 Yeah but the Wayfinder wasn’t destroyed
anakin skywalker deserves rinnegan capabilities
god i love star wars
Here's a suggestion finally carry on the time travel animation where Luke and Darth Vader/anakin go back in time last year went off their going to go to episode 1 before Obi-Wan Kenobi is trainer died
Why not make a what if on this?
I don't get it why did- Qui-Gon Jinn die on episode 1 why did Star Wars decide that
Well, he's not from the original trilogy. And the sad fact is that he had to die, so anakin can become Darth Vader in the future. Also because palpatine had maul ordered to kill him, because it would foil his plans if qui gon lived.
So if they have attachment and made sure that they would not fall to the dark side of they lose it, it would be alright.
Anyone know what happened to nerd theory last night?? Was pretty bummed it didn't happen
Qui-gon and anakin woulda been the best master and apprentice
I wonder if dooku didn't fall to turn dark side and train anakin instead of Obi wan.
PLEASE PLEASE do a Qui series I no there isent much of a series in the comics but please Do you do cameo
Jedi don't allow love because offspring. It's too hard to keep track of all the force sensitives that could turn to the sith. Jedi was fearful of sith fear led to anger anger to hate and hate to suffering and not detecting Palpatine
What if Ashoka was in the Siege of Mandalore with Obi-Wan and Anakin?
There's a horrible issue of Star Wars Tales where Qui-gon explains to Obi-wan why jedi are forbidden to love, the reason was really stupid and Qui-gon acted incredibly out of character, he seemed to lecture to Obi-wan that jedi shouldn't love and suported it, if you know Qui-gon Jinn at all you should know that, that's not what Qui-gon would say to Obi-wan or anybody. The good news is the Star Wars tales comics aren't cannon not just to Disney cannon but neither to Darkhorse cannon either, so it's all good.
Oh good, that scared me for a second because that didn’t sound like him at all.
@@joxyver I wonder if the writer of that story saw any of the movies or comics, or just knew much about Star Wars.
don't risk a thousand lives just to save one - shaak TI
Who's Din atlis? Never heard of him
What if Bo-Katan Kryze was a stronger and better fighter than Maul and Pre Visla combined, thus defeating Maul and/or Sabine Wren in combat for leadership of Mandalore and/or the Darksaber?
So what the only Jedi in Star Wars who could have saved Anakin Skywalker and make him more powerful and be with Padme was Qui-Gon right not Mace Windu or Kenobi or any other Jedi
That's because of ideology within being a jedi.
It's about ideology and belief not skill/power.
Qui was unique as he, had a different perspective on what it means to be a Jedi. Something Mace and yoda disagreed with.
No Nerd Theory? Did Liam pop?
Yes he indeed did, Josh posted Liam on twitter
@@rello2x that's awesome
Is it fair to say qui gon jinn was almost a gray Jedi?
I'd say it's the opposite. He was the full embodiment of what a Jedi was supposed to be. I'd say everyone on the council is closer to gray.
@@TheFirehands150 I agree he is what a Jedi should be but historically Jedi have been so afraid of falling to the dark side they try to go all the way to the other side of the spectrum which only itself leads to the dark side where as gray Jedi are tools for the force they are led by the will of the force instead of bending the force to there will like sith and the Jedi council do
Well, the name Qui-Gon Jinn can be roughly interpreted as meaning; ‘a spirit in balance’.
But to answer the question;
Canonically, there is no such thing as a Grey Jedi. That implies a disciplined Jedi that’s neither a Lightsider or a Darksider, or their actions neither good nor evil, and that just doesn’t make sense. Of course you can define it differently, but we’ll have to leave that as a philosophical debate since Lucas wasn’t entirely clear on issue of Balance nor about Jedi that were out of alinement with the Jedi Council traditionalists.
My personal take is that a Grey Jedi is one that’s increasingly pressing the limits between right and wrong, in danger of falling to the Darkside. Examples;
Anakin
Quinlan Vos
Jacen Solo
The Revanchists
Juhani
And we saw a few others in the Clone Wars CGI series.
It’s always a tossup as to whether they ultimately fell to the Darkside or came back to the Light thanks to intervention by their fellow Jedi.
@@eds1942 so you wouldn't consider those who left the order like Ashoka or those who were forced out but still follow the light side teachings but just not as strictly like a post Jedi counsel Luke or even canin jaris who followed the teachings of the Jedi but obviously had a relationship had a child but was led by the will of the force instead of rules and regulations of the order? I'm just curious I honestly don't know and I like making conversation not trying to argue hahaha
@@Zypher2887 If I understand you right, that’s one way to define a Grey Jedi.
A Jedi that’s out of alinement with the Council. A Jedi that’s likely on some Jedi Council member/s watch list for whatever reason. A Jedi that can scapegoated by the Order to save face with the public.
Yes, Ahsoka would fit that definition of a Grey Jedi. Though she was definitely a Lightsider.
No, I don’t think that Qui-Gon would entirely fit that definition since the Council had not only granted him the rank of Master and gave him the apprentice of his choice. They respected him enough to seriously consider his take on the Chosen One prophecy and to honor his dying request that Anakin be trained as a Jedi by Obi-Wan. Going so far to grant Obi-Wan the rank of Knight without trails and a apprentice without himself having a Master. Despite his differences with the Council, there was no mistrust between them. They knew that he followed the Will of the Force, but they didn’t have the same luxury as him to be fully trusting in it since they also had their obligations to the Senate. And Council seats aren’t for everybody. Just as some people are better suited as doctors or the military/police or as teachers or lawyers or financial managers or sports players and entertainers or cooks or seamstresses or…, to place them in something else will naw at them and drain their spirit, they simply won’t be as good, successful, focused or content as they could be.
Hey i have an anakin skywalker in the afterlife story
Who is this other friend who created another order??
If qoi-gon would have survived none of this would happen and he will lead anakin better then anyone else🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤
Ki Adi Mundi the lucky bastard having multiple wives and here's me struggling to get one 😒
God dang it I thought I was finally first
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Unfortunately, the only reason Anakin was put on the council was so they could use him to spy on Palpatine.
Palpatine requested that Anakin be granted a seat on the Jedi Council and a promotion to the rank of Jedi Master. The Jedi Council meet him halfway by granting Palpatine’s request for Anakin to have a seat in the Council.
The Masters correctly suspected that Palpatine wanted Anakin on the Council to spy in on them as well as to be his voice in meetings, and chose to play into that by giving Anakin a seat on condition that he spied on Palpatine.
Either way, the Jedi of this era were answerable to the Senate and the Senate’s requests had to at least be considered by the Council.
did Force Guide Anakin Skywalker blow up the separate vessel