YT Izzo vs Ripley AF vs Transition Spur
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Since we had all these awesome bikes in the stable what better time that to pit them head to head in a short travel 29er battle. We took all these bikes out and I rode them back to back on the same trails timing each section. The winner is us. These short travel bikes prove to be super capable and a blast to ride.
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Overview
1:34 Bike Setup
3:13 Timed Lap Overview
3:52 Timed Climbing
6:47 Timed Lap Descent
10:11 Total Lap Times
10:36 Technical DH Overview
11:03 First DH Section Times
13:35 Black Diamond DH Overview
13:57 Black Diamond DH Times
17:19 Top Picks and Final Thoughts
19:29 Wrap Up
#TransitionSpur #RipleyAF #YTIzzo 
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Homie, great bike shootout. So stoked when I saw it. I was entertained throughout the whole video. All Killer No Filler. Also, thank you for subscribing. You are the one that got me to 100.
Awesome, happy it wasn't too boring 😀. Keep putting out those videos brother!
Thanks so much! Great reviews! I have an AF and love it. Climbs better than most, and descends great for my style.
The AF real eats the chunk well and climbs great. It is an excellent option especially when you compare prices.
Love my YT Izzo 29 Comp. Very fast downhill and climbs well. I have broken the rear shock lockout twist grip so the shock is permanently open. The only full suspension bike I’ve owned that lets you stand up whilst climbing, with the shock open, without losing grip on the rear wheel. Still using the Forecasters which are fast on dry surfaces but sketchy, especially in the mud. Great videos, keep them coming 🤗
Izzo is such a fast maneuverable bike. I really think the lockout isn't really needed. It climbs really well. Thanks for watching!
Great review!! Coincidentally I had my first ride on my Spur X01 yesterday, and it was absolutely nothing like I expected... the bike it reminds me the most of is my Canyon Torque, a 170/180 enduro/freeride machine... This bike can descend in completely mental speeds, it absolutely rips.. Can really confirm and relate to your observations and comments. Sure it will not handle rock gardens like a 170mm travel bike, and will probably get me in trouble, but on the other hand it climbs really well (which the torque really doesn’t with 4kg extra weight and all travel). Thanks!
It real shines for a 120mm bike. I too was surprised how well it descends. Thank you for watching!
Great, thorough review man. Times were hundredths of seconds apart in most cases, making any of these bikes a killer ride. Would love to have a Spur but a Core 3 or 4 Izzo is on my radar. Thanks!
All three of the bikes are great and any would be a great choice. They do have different characteristics which make the experience vary. The Spur seemed to have the most confident feel but the suspension on the Ripley AF felt more supple. The Izzo felt to me like the smallest bike in the group despite having the most travel front and rear...but more playful and poppy than the others. You really cannot go wrong with any of them and cannot ignore the Izzo's great value. Thanks for watching Ben.
thanks for doing this comparison. I just rode my ripley af last weekend at culvert and confluence and I was blown away how comfortable and capable the bike was. im running a 140mm ribbon coil and a DVO Topaz which helps. I just installed some 29mm internal width carbon wheels im hoping further enhances the climbing and liveliness of the bike
Awesome Cole! That suspension combo sounds killer. I agree narrower and lighter wheels should give the AF good snap and quicken the uphill pace. It really is a great bike and looking forward to what Ibis does with the Carbon version.
Thanks for doing this comparison, it’s great to hear your thoughts since i wasn’t able to test ride multiple bikes. I still think I made the right choice for my riding style and needs!
No wrong choice here. All of these are an amazing display of how far bikes have come.
@@StraightLine_MTB All the bikes are super capable for their travel category for sure. Thanks for the awesome video!
Dude, I havent even watched the video and i already know its gonna be good.
😆thanks amigo!
Continued excellence Sir. Thanks for the video.
Thank you! This was one of the most fun videos we have done. For sure wins the most tired award lol.
Awesome shootout video big dawg! I enjoyed it and learned a lot from your review and experiences.
Awesome! Thanks for watching brother!
Bro.. your Video and your review of 3 bikes and riding them Back to Back to Back.. was Awesome..
These 3 bikes were on my radar when I was shopping for a Bike.. I ended up buying the Spur which I Love.. but, your review was so detailed and non Biased tho I know you are a Spur Owner. It's good to hear that no matter which bike I chose. It wouldn't have been a bad decision either way .
Keep Riding and Stay Safe.
Thanks brother, I appreciate you're kind words. All the bikes are amazing and really cannot go wrong. Fo me the Spur just felt right and my riding style real gels with that bike. Differences were small and would gladly own any of these long term. Thank you for watching!!
@@StraightLine_MTB Thank You for putting up Awesome content..
I wanna see more of your Pops tho.. I'm 53yrs old and wanna ride like you. But, am more like your papa.. get him in front of the camera.. I started doing this for Cardio and Heart Health.. I got some videos of me doing silly stuff as well.
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Great video man! Thank you!
Thank you for watching Alex!
Thank you! Great vid.
Thank you for watching!
Damnnnnnnn was waiting for this a whole like 3 hours lucky me!
Awesome! Hope it's helpful
@@StraightLine_MTB hell ya! I've been waiting for some one to do this comparison. Seems like a no vrajner but You're the only one I found to do all 3!
@@residentevil36936936 supply may be the culprit. Luckily I have a few credit cards and obsession for searching for bikes 😆🤣
I think a shorter stem and possibly higher rise bars would help a lot on the Izzo. I've shortened the stem so far which was a huge improvement. It felt too "over the bars" and sketchy in the stock configuration. Some burlier tires would be a huge improvement on some of the rougher trails as well, definitely not up to the task for my riding area. Great vid.
The Izzo is amazing and I agree, wider bars shorter stem and some 2.5 tires would really up it's capability. Even in stock form it is great and it is one of the best looking bikes right now.
Outstanding reviews G!!!
Thanks amigo!
I think there is more value in your hands-on feedback of each bike than the time trials...only in that the percent differences in times is really a negligible differences. Good video and hands on feedback of each bike, def insightful. Would like to see what your thoughts are on the Specialized Epic Evo if you ever get the chance.
Two great bikes right here. I'd like to roll either , but I just need a tad more travel for my daily bike. Awesome review.
Just subbed homie 🔥🔥👍🍻
I meant 3 bikes 😂
@@1eyeblind They are great for sure. They are very capable but some may need a bit more travel for more consistent bigger lines. But these are great if your trails aren't full throttle all the time. Thanks for watching!
Great vid dude! Perfect blend of facts and opinion. Even more stoked to get my Izzo Blaze now. Hoping the beefed up fork will give it a little extra on the downs.
Thank you for watching. I'm guessing the Blaze version kicks things up a notch on the downs. Great combo.
I'm stuck between ordering the Blaze or the Pro Race - I'd rather have the Pike because I like to plow on the downs but the value on getting carbon wheels and X01 is hard to pass up.
@@MikemoRides that's a tough one. I think I would have gone with the Blaze if it was available. I personally liked the feeling of aluminum wheels over the carbon and the 140mm fork would ad a bit more aggressiveness that would help the Izzo in the gnarly stuff. Also I like the lower price. Either way can't go wrong because it's a great bike.....and one of the best looking out there
@@MikemoRides Was def a tough call for me as well. I've had mine for a couple weeks and have racked up a fair amount of miles on everything from techy downhills, drops, jumps, long and short techy climbs, to flow, and general singletrack. I'm really happy with my decision. I did swap to an aggressor rear tire as the DHR is a pig, oval chainring, and upgraded the rear hub to a 54T ratchet. Climbs like a billy goat, and the sus is super composed pointed down. Either way, you'd be stoked. Shes a sick ride.
Awesome review 👍
Thank you!
Great review! Exact 3 bikes I am looking at!! Nice job man!
Thanks Jay. All 3 are awesome. Which are you leaning towards?
@@StraightLine_MTB probably gonna go with the Spur! But man the value for $$ the Izzo is VERY tempting!
@@Rincon009 Izzo has an amazing value for sure. Can't really go wrong either way but I love the Spur and would be my choice.
Great video!
Thanks for driving the shuttle 😆
Good stuff! Would love to see head to head with the Ripmo AF, Sentinel V2, and the Meta TR!
Unfortunately we no longer have the Metas or Ripmo. I address briefly comparisons in our long term review of the Sentinel. I would be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Have my spur on order cant wait.
Get stoked....thing rips. What build did you go with?
Just subscribed. Great channel! Looking at the Ripley AF right now. Too bad everything is out of stock everywhere!
Awesome, happy you found us. With supply almost to zero it is frustrating. The AF us a great bike but lead times are tough.
Love it pops
Oh snap, THEE head to head
Hi,
Very informative video thank you!
One qeustion though.. did you use the remote lockout on the climb with the Izzo? How does it behave with / without the lockout
Thank you. All bikes were left in full open for all sections of this test. The Izzo's lockout when used is very stiff and find that the bike doesn't really need it. It climbs very well in open position. Thank you for watching!
what timing device do you use?
I’ve been waiting for this one 🍿
And as luck would have it, I received my izzo pro race this morning :)
@@javabk you're gonna love it!
Nice! The Izzo is an amazing bike and the value is insane! Let us know what you think once you get some miles in.
@@StraightLine_MTB I’m going to Moab over spring break, I’m sure I’ll have some good impressions for you after that 😉
killed this!
camera quality is sweet
Thank you! Learning as I go 😆
I actually thought this might be the outcome. Reviews have been very positive on the spur.
Spur is an excellent bike and really enjoy riding it. 😀
How wide are the tires on the AF? I am running 2.6 Agarro and Mazza. I can't get over how stable mine feels on the downhill! Took it on a good 13 miler today with a little bit of everything minus super steeps. I think the more chunky and rocky the climb, the better it performs compared to other bikes I have ridden. I need to tweak the shock, maybe adding 10 PSI. I think the Isso is the best looking of the bunch.
2.6 tires on ours but they come up a bit narrow. The AF feels a bit more smashy on the downs.
Awesome video! I have a full enduro bike (160 front n back) if you happen to have experience with that can you tell me if you notice the difference in climbing speed with the spur? I already ordered it and am wondering what to expect when climbing compared to a full enduro bike? Is it really that much more different when climbing? Strangely enough I'm not much of a downhiller and more of a climber so I have a feeling that I'll be right at home with the spur.
Compared to the the Sentinel V2 which I think is a great climber for an enduro bike, the Spur is very noticeably a better climber. It is lighter, snappier at the pedals, and easier to maneuver. The Spur is an excellent climber and think you will instantly notice it coming off an enduro bike.
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what about the Ripley Carbon. would it be the first on the climb?
Great question but I have never ridden the carbon version of the Ripley. From the reviews I've watched I would say the Ripley V4 would be the more efficient than the Spur and possibly be lighter.
When doing lateral comparisons, gotta use same tires and tire pressures. This is really the only way to eliminate the biggest variable.
I do get that but I'm poor and doing all these reviews on my own dime. The tire setup on each was fairly in the same category aside from the AF having bigger tires but it came with big meaty tires stock. I believe equipping these bikes identically the results would be very similar to what I found. These are just my opinions and experience, so others may disagree. It was a fun video and enjoyed sharing.
Great video! Would've been cool to put the same exact tires on each bike.
I would have loved to but my pockets are a bit shallow after buying these bikes 😆. I do think the sires on each match up well and Spur probably had the slower rolling setup of the bunch. Thank you for watching!
Sick pants, bro. I hear "purple/magenta is the new orange" for 2021 in the MTB. Lot of purple stuff coming out this year haha
😆 they are actually burgundy but came out purple for some reason.
@@StraightLine_MTB Oh right on lol it looked purplish to me. Hey what a great review and test, that's a fun one! Great, information presented in a positive, cheerful manner as always. Nice one!
The only one of these I don’t own is the Ripley. I have the Izzo Pro and Spur XO1. Love both but there’s no way I will be selling the Spur.
Izzo is great but I agree, the Spur does things just a bit better.
@@bthomas518 I don't think you'll be disappointed. Fast up and fun down in the Spur. I still have ours, that's how much I like it. Hopefully you can get it fast.
Awesome comparison. I liked your observations about the difference the tire widths made. Did you happen to record with PSIs you ran on each bike? Am curious if the wider wheels on the AF need to be run with lower PSIs vs the others for faster descents.
I ran same psi on all bikes with Ripley af just a touch lower. I did not feel any issues with the pressures I ran on the AF and felt really good. Traction on that bike was excellent. Lower psi would give even more Traction and a bit more suppleness.
@@StraightLine_MTB😅😅😅😅 Nooooo poop poop i
Curious to know what the results would be if it was a Ripley 4 carbon frame since it’s lots lighter.
I would guess it would be quicker as well. The AF is on the heavy side for a bike in it's travel. The AF most likely descends better with the slightly slacker geo and the weigh helps in the rough as well.
So no bikes in the LBS for Ripleys or Stumpys I was looking at ( take till who knows when to get in stock) but YT Canada does have a Large Izzo in stock........
Get that Izzo. Better to get the bike you can now and Izzo is great.
Great comparison review.
Question: What 2nd bike would you choose to pair with these short travel bikes? Enduro/Downhill?
With the enduro bikes being so capable I think I would pair these with a 150-170mm enduro bike. If you are hitting bigger lines and also need a bigger bike the Meta AM, Mega 290c, and Transition Sentinel all come to mind as great pairing with these bikes. Not to discredit DH bikes as they are amazing weapons for the parks its just that they require a shuttle or lift to get them to the top without emptying your tank.
Thanks for the advice @@StraightLine_MTB. Appreciate all the advice on these bikes. I was thinking that Sentinel based off of your positive review and it looks like a great bike. Also thinking Capra because its quite a bit cheaper. Keep shredding bud
@@derrickj925 The Sentinel is really a great bike and I gelled with it quite well. I am going to get a coil shock for it and do a comparison video. I think that will up it's capability a bit to make it even more versatile. YT bikes are hard to overlook as they offer such an amazing value for your $. So many great options it makes it hard to choose....right now it can boil down to what you can get the soonest with the shortage of bikes.
@@StraightLine_MTB I've been hearing good things about coil shocks. Would be sick if you do that and you can do a shock comparison video. Agreed, it would probably bump up the capability. I heard coil has a unique rebound to it compared to air shock. Coils sound like it could fit the style of a enduro bike really well.
So true, a lot of these bikes are good and if one's available...take it.
I wish any of this bikes were available for buy! Bike shops are so empty this days...
Yes, it is pretty frustrating finding a bike in the current market.
I have been looking at the Izzo. Would you recommend that bike for relaxed trails that are more climbs with very little downhill?
Personally, I would as I thought it climbs well, especially with the lockout. Another bike to look at would be the Epic Evo as it is awesome even in its base build. The Izzo is an amazing value and should serve well even if you take it into a bit more demanding trails.
@@StraightLine_MTB Thanks was looking at Evo or Intense Primer.
You should keep a spread sheet, grade each bike on a point system.... climbing, tech climbing , all the different type down hill trails....
Great idea. I did address as much as I could on a 1 day test. I will sprinkle in comparisons in our long term reviews of the Spur and Ripley.
@@StraightLine_MTB thanks. Also thought about search index and weighted scheme 🤔. I think to much !
I've been really considering the ibis Ripley af slx build which comes in at 4000 dollars but it has because it has better shifting performance than the nx and possibly gx but the carbon izzo is a good contender I'm not sure which to get in I where to go short travel?
The Izzo will be a better climber and the Ripley AF the better descender. The Ripley is in no way a bad climber but the heavier weight and wider wheel/tire combo added to drag. To me the $700 more for the SLX build isn't worth it as I would rather spend that $$ elsewhere on the bike like lighter wheels.
The AF felt more compact that the Izzo in the seated position so that is something to think about. Not uncomfortable but noticeable. The Izzo's price is nice for sure. Can't really go wrong with either bike honestly. Ibis wins the Customer Service battle as they are pretty amazing. I'm sure YT will take care of any issue but Ibis does have dealers which makes it easier.
@@StraightLine_MTB thank you for the comment man honestly I agree with you if I were to get the yt izzoI'd rather spend my money on more gripper tires like the minion dhr 2 and disecter or lighter wheels like you said. Plus your getting the benefits of carbonwith the yt izzo. I just have one other question I know this wasn't in your review but do you think the yt izzo carbon frame is durable or do you have to baby your bike while riding it?
@@jfinn9827 I haven't babied any bike we review....grip it and rip it. I do recommend frame protection tape. I use LaminX and there is a code for 15% off in the description above.
You should use same tires for all bikes, because you mention tire effect often and each bike have totally different tire setup :D
That would definitely help pinpoint difference in some areas. We have moved to riding all bikes as they come to give a more detailed review of each bike although in this roundup tires had ben swapped. Thanks for watching
Did you ever feel like the wheelbase of the spur being longer made it less maneuverable especially in the tight slow sections?
It does feel like a longer bike compared to the other two bit didn't feel cumbersome on the trail. It's light and poppy so you can drive it but feels bigger on the descent
Would you still recommend the Spur for trail riding in the Midwest, or do you think one of the other bikes would do better? We have a lot of short ups and downs and a lot of single track XC trails.
@@jeremykillingbeck5701 the Spur is my favorite of the group. I still is fast uphill and can get rowdy as well. It'd be my choice
Idk, these trails look super fun on any bike, they remind me of a few trails I road south of Yosemite, what state was this in?
These trails are in Auburn, CA. Great for a lot of style of MTBs and great testing grounds.
@@StraightLine_MTB Hey I wasn't too far off :] The trail I road, 007 I think, looked verrry similar. Thanks for the review btw, I'm thinking hard on the izzo, if they're ever available again.
Great reviews! YT just came out with a new batch of Izzos. You have the pro level build, but if you were chose between the Ibis Ripley AF or the cheapest Izzo build aka Core 2? Similar specs and I believe the weight difference would be closer
Thanks T D. That would be a closer comparison spec and price wise. You'd get the Carbon frame of the Izzo which will be lighter and less flex in the rear in corners. The AF has a bit better spec and Ibis support is one of the best. I think the fit of the Izzo a bit better where I thought the AF feels more compact. I think the Izzo would probably still climb faster and AF descend better. It'd be a tough decision since they are both awesome. I do like the look and weight of Izzo but Ibis service and DW link are awesome. I think I'd go with the Ripley as I prefer the DH capability over the bit better climbing of the Izzo.
@@StraightLine_MTB thank you so much for the very thoughtful reply! I really appreciate it. The local ibis dealer made decision easier as they have no clue when they’ll get more Ripley AFs and won’t accept deposits. I already have deposit on YT Izzo core 2 and expect to have it by October. Can’t wait!
@@td8331 Torn between these two as well. Can't even place an order right now for the Ripley AF even though it's probably my first choice. I want something will be great for the flowy flats as well as will allow me to charge the downhills but I'm still a new comer to this so it won't be at major speed.
Super review but I’d go with the Ripley and put 2000 in my pocket:)
That is a great choice. Throw on some carbon hoops to boot. Ibis kills it with their bikes. Thank you for watching
OK, but which Bike was the most *_FUN?_*
Think I would again have to say the Spur in the group. They are all really great but for my riding style in the travel the Spur fit that well for me.
Awesome video brother!
Did you think the Alloy frame on the Ripley was a disadvantage since the other two were Carbon?
Also, who do you represent? A bike shop?? Or are you a One Man show??...LOL.
I honestly think the aluminum frame supports a bit of confidence on the downs. The carbon frames are more laterally stiff. I think the real winner here is the AF as it is the least expensive and doesn't give up a lot to the more expensive bikes. I am a one man riding show but my wife helps with behind the scenes work and funding 😆. No affiliation with a shop yet. Just loving sharing reviews
@@StraightLine_MTB Awesome! I notice a lot of people are very happy with the AF. It's a bonus that you can save your money too.
It seems like you really enjoyed the wheelbase of the Spur, especially on the downhill. What do you think if you got the XL on the Izzo instead of the L. Longer wheelbase and chain stay. Do you think it could have taken first place? I love both bikes.
The XL Izzo is likely way too large for him. I’m 6-5 and ride and XXL Izzo but should have gone with the XL. It’s a long reach bike.
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I’m 6-2 and was debating between the L and XL. Seems like L might be the right fit based on your experience. They recommend the XL on their recommended size chart but only by an inch on height.
@@ryanmiles3505 I’m 6’1” on an XL Izzo. I swapped to a 40mm stem and it feels perfect.
@@andrewvenditelli152 thanks man. I keep going back and forth. It’s hard because even though I’m near the YT Mill in CA, they aren’t doing and demos.
Watchng idol
Thank you!
Ripley AF is that good
It's pretty awesome
Why ripley af? All frames should be Carbon for apple to apple comparison.. thanks
We already had the Ripley AF and I feel it fits into the category. I think this test also shows that a $3200 aluminum bike can hang with lighter more expensive bikes. It also sets the stage a bit if/when the Ripley V5 shows up as I think that may edge out the other two both up and down. This was more of a fun comparison and less of a "scientific" one just to see how each stack up.
“Downcountry” is a dumb term. They should just be called “cross country” as opposed to “cross country RACE” bikes.
There needs to be a term for light trail bikes.....but seems like there are so many categories now. What happened to all mountain lol.
I don’t think is fair for the Ripley af. You should test the Ripley carbon against the other two. Price wise the Ripley is the best options to go. For the money that you spent on the Transition Spur you can get a really nice Ripley even with a Ibis carbon wheelset. Lighter too.
I think if any bike benefits from a review like this it is the Ripley AF. It shows a $3300 aluminum bike can compete with bikes that are lighter and more expensive. The AF is a great bike for sure. Thanks for watching.
Agreed Jiggy. A Carbon Ripley would have been a Apples to Apples to Apples comparison instead of throwing an Orange in there. An Aluminum Tallboy would have been a fair review for the Ripley.
@@jbaps53 The Ripley V4 has been compared to the Spur in a few reviews and consensus is that the V4 climbs better but Spur descends better. Also the AF is a new model with a bit more aggressive geo so it lines up better with these two. They are all bikes in the same category so it isn't a far fetched comparison. It gives perspective to potential buyers of any of these bikes (especially the Ripley AF) to see how they stack up. Either way it was something several of my subscribers wanted to see and I enjoyed making the video. Send us your Carbon Ripley and we would be glad to re-shoot and compare lol.
No horse in this race, don’t ride a Carbon Ripley or any other Ibis
@@jbaps53 Legit question, wats wrong with buying an Ibis? I tht everybody loves Ibis.
What a ridiculous test with no test controls at all you gotta love it when a noob tries to put a bike comparison together