LCD-2 Closed vs Denon D7200
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2019
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Probably the last comparison with the LCD-2 before the conclusion. Today we compare and contrast the D7200. Similarly priced, but with distinct sound signatures. Neither is better than the other. Which sound profile do you prefer?
Another great review! The Denon D7200s are criminally under rated/ overlooked by most. I love them, they may be expensive but at least they have the good grace to feel expensive, being beautifully made with a luxurious feel. The sound is not particularly neutral but it is wonderfully enjoyable and I can listen to them all day. And I find them very comfortable, although not especially light I don't find them heavy on the head and clamping force is strong enough to feel secure without feeling like there is a lot of pressure. I rate them more highly than many headphones which win far more audiophile plaudits and the build quality and tactile feel shames a few much more expensive headphones.
Great review... I am aiming for D7200 now, I really like Denon sound. Just curious what are the other closed headphones that sound similar to D7200 are there any alternatives? Thank you
Hmmm...that's a bit difficult to say. I'm sure there are some that sound similar, but I can't think of any that sound exactly the same. The only headphones that jump to mind might be the T60rp, Amiron Home (though the Amiron has a greater treble emphasis), Audioquest Nightowl...
If we are comparing Denon D7200 and DCA Aeon 2 Noire closed... which are better?
I want to change my AKG k371. My other set is AT ath-ad2000x.
If youre not a fan of bass and dynamic then dca aeon 2 noire otherwise d7200
So... When the rme review will come out? Or at least a comparison with thx technology or something...
I'm really enjoying your work in the channel, congratulations !
Thank you! I'm reading through the RME manual now--which is actually more pleasant than I thought it would be. The THX manual is far less helpful, so I'm stumbling around trying to find all the functions. Head-to-head review will be in a few weeks when I understand what each can do. Spoiler alert, the RME is vastly more complicated but also much more user-friendly.
Hey! Very nice review, thanks for that! I`m looking for new headphones for electronic music, so the 7200s seems to be very fitting right? :) But when you say rumbling, do they annoyingly vibrate?I`m also looking for a new headphone amp, since i have beyerdynamic 250 ohms. Do you have some recommendations for good power, too? I`m not that into headphone amps haha. Cheers from Germany
I rarely recommend headphones for a particular genre. That's a judgment call I can't make for anybody else. I'm sure the 7200 would sound quite good for electronic music, but there are many other options as well. By "rumbling" I mean the sub-bass detail and sound in the particular track I'm discussing. The rumbling can distort on some headphones, and when it does, I try to explain what I'm hearing. If you listen to The Border and The Beast from the Sicario soundtrack, you should get an idea of what I mean. The 7200 doesn't distort.
As for an amp for the 250 ohm Beyer--there aren't many that won't work. Not know your sound signature preference or budget, I can only suggest the following options to research and consider: Schiit Magni, Monolith Liquid Spark, iFi Zen Dac or Zen Can, Monolith THX Desktop and THX Portable, Rupert Neve Headphone Amplifier, Drop 789, JDS Labs Element.
I appreciate your A/B comparison. Now some Denon 電音 talk. Here in Europa the price difference between D5200 and 7200 is about USD 70. Thus, its not a matter of price. I have good memories as owner of a D5000, a pair that I lost fiver years ago. I have ordered Sundara partially based on your recommendations, but I miss my D5000 and consider getting a Denon as well, as a second pair of phones. Which one would you recommend for most genres with a focus on classic music, jazz and film music. Your D7200 review put a shadow on the Denon as 2 dimensional and speaker like rather than giving the illusion of you being in front of an orchestra. What about D5200 ?
The 5200 is a refinement of the 5000. I find the 5000 has looser bass and the 5200 is tighter and less bloated. Imaging is fairly similar between 5200 and 7200. The major differences are with treble and bass. We all have different interpretations of music, so my analysis might sound like what you don’t want from a headphone, but it might turn out that you might enjoy the sound. As you go up in price with the Denon, you get better detail and accurate response. The 9200 for example is rather different from the previous D-series headphones. It is the most accurate and neutral Denon I’ve heard.
Great!!!
Beyerdynamic t1 2nd gen vs lcd 2c vs denon d7200
Which are more detailed in order? And how much is the difference in detail compared to denon d7200?
And which are most natural sounding
Thank you
@No Theme Reviews - would really love a comparison between these and the Focal Stellia. The Focals aren't worth their cost imo, (are any headphones worth that cost?),and the 9200 would be an awesome alternative at close to half the price.
No problem. Could you please submit the request using the review request form in the description?
Will do, and thanks.
How how do these fit a smallish head? I would say I am a fitted 7 1/4 hat size. I don’t have to extend the arms on my hd 700 for reference size. Thank you No themes! Enjoying the reviews!
I’ve been thinking about getting a dummy head to show how headphones look...but I remind myself I’m the dummy. Anyway, you likely won’t have to adjust the length of the headband on either. The Denon are lighter and will probably be more comfy, but you might enjoy the larger earcups on the LCD2.
Great review . One thing i wonder is what amp or what do drive my denon headphones. I currently have a dragonfly red and i would like to know what is better for this headphone. tiny bit on budget so maybe over 500 usd and does anyone know where to get headband cover and new ear puffs for denon d7200? because it hurts a little bit ontop of my head :D
Dekoni makes earpads for Denon headphones; you can probably also find something from Brainwavz. Headband padding is fairly easy to find on Amazon. As for an amp, the 7200 doesn't really need anything specific. The Dragonfly Red has a particular sound signature that you may not enjoy with the 7200, so switching to a more neutral source may be an option. You definitely do not need to go above $150-200, and anything above that range is not "better" in sound quality, just differently tuned or has more/less features.
The Ikko Zerda, Topping NX4, iFi Hip Dac, Zen Dac, and Monolith THX Portable are just a few options
i use skullcandy crushers on my phone for really strong bass, i like bass, im a real basshead, on my pc i use beyerdynamic 770 pro with a soundblasterx ae-5 plus soundcard, i like the sound quality i'm getting, especially with tweaking with the creative software, however, i dont get as much bass as i would like, now, i'm not looking for skullcandy levels of bass, just more than the 770pros, i've tried looking for information but i dont understand the lingo, are the d7200 good for bassheavy music? if not, what other ones should i look at?
No, probably not the D7200. The D2000 can be a real bass beast but you’ll need to amp it. V-MODA makes headphones specifically for bassy music, so that’s a good option.
Between these 2 headphones, according to you which one has better more life like natural timber(natural sound)?
And how much is the difference between d7200 and d9200 detail wise?
Will you prefer to buy d7200 in 2024?
D9200, but not significantly more than the 7200. The 7200 has a bit more mid bass, while the 9200 has slightly greater treble clarity. The 7200 is a very good headphone. Unless the price for the two headphones is fairly similar where you are, the 7200 is a reasonable pick. It’s cheaper, sounds similar to the 9200, and has a more exciting bass emphasis-which might be your cup of tea.
@@NoThemeReviews thank you bro
People are saying d7200 late 2022 or later production units increased the resolution
If you get a chance for reviewing such model, itll be amazing
Also brother kindly review ZMF Bokeh and after review compare it with denon d7200, im looking between these 2
Thank you for your service❤️
It's long AF but if you can run it in background while doing something else you can find it very informative. Thank you 👍
Hey. Is there any top closed back headphones from the author? I'm just now facing a choice: audeze lcd2 closed back vs denon 7200 at the same price. Preferably for rock and metal.
I would like to know what the author thinks after time.
Both are good for rock and metal, but if you want more sun-bass, then I’d say the D7200. Demon’s house sound signature leans more into upper-bass and mids, and has a warmer presentation. The LCD2 has a noticeable sun-bass roll-off and a very obvious 3-5khz boost that can be hard to endure if you are sensitive to sibilance.
@@NoThemeReviews Thanks for the response! Appreciate it.
Then out of those two, I'll go with the denon for 500. I'm also considering the hifiman ananda for 400. Do you think they will sound better than the denon 7200?
Have u heard the Dan Clark Aeon 2 Noire? If yes, what would u say, is it better than the D7200?
Haven't heard it
Tonally, like in timbre which one is better? The instruments where are more life-like? Im a little late to the show, but see exactly these models and the D9200, torn between these 3.
I’d say the D9200. Planars just do not replicate bass naturally. The decay is just a tad too fast, the presence of instruments not quite as thick as on dynamic drivers.
@@NoThemeReviews Thanks for the response! I see, although read that the 9200 is tend to be too bright for some. I myself like maybe more the meaty, darkish, fast, snappy signature with present but tuned down high requencies. I say just maybe, cuz i dont know how irritating the highs on the 9200, i would say if its more harsh than on the HD600, it could be too much for me. I would not like brighter HP than he HD600. Just as a sound signature the 7200 would be closer to me than te 9200, but then the pure sound quality would be worse, i really curious to the 9200. Beside the Denons the LCD 2 CB is my dark horse, i really curious how it sounds, how is its famous soundstage. Nevertheless as a former HD600 listener, timbre is really important to me, so if u say that the LCD is the worst in that from the 3, i drop that from the game. Extra question: am i correct that for movies the LCD is the best by a mile? (cuz of the soundstage, immersion, laid back behavior)
For me Denon all the way... i love their sound signature and not only on these D7200. I prefer their soft emphasis on the bass and their details in mids. Just perfect for my taste. I also have MM400... out of the box they sounded ok but after some burnout and pads replacement they do sound amazing. I used to own more Sennheiser headphones but got bored with their analytical / flat sound signature. They are good for studio work where Denon is better for pleasure from the sound.
Unfortunately, Denon headphones don't get much attention. Denon is very Japanese in that sense--they don't market heavily outside of Japan.
@@NoThemeReviews Fully agree, discovered them by accident and never looked back. They are making big impact now in the dj segment.
Was going to buy the Danon 9200 but cancelled because I read too many conflicting opinions online and now I am stuck! I NEED mid emphasis and sparkly highs w/ tight impactful bass. I think I was doing good right? Should I re-order?😭
The 9200 does all of that really well IMO. I was concerned it would sound too warm, but was pleasantly surprised it had excellent detail retrieval and tight bass. Indeed, it has noticeably different character from all previous versions-7200, 5200, 2000, 5000. Its a closer call between the 7200 and 9200, but the 9200 has just a bit more clarity and detail. Now, the bass isn’t visceral-not like the LCD-XC or ZMF Atticus. The mids are a bit forward and in my experience are very clear.
Are you considering any alternatives?
No Theme Reviews WOW a great speedy response thank you very much friend.
I did try the Z1R’s (looking for a closed back set) and I was extremely unimpressed. SO SMOOTH they were and amazing extended bass but not really bright or any mid emphasis. Tried the Focal Clear this week, they scream class, VERY neutral IMO nothing stood out but just literally sounded “clear.” Boring IMO old classy man headphones but that’s just me, they truly were balanced neutral all around. You also couldn’t blast them loud the drivers reverberated if you did that and that was scary. I’m a rock guy so immediate return.
Amazon.jp is a great place to get the Denons for a great discount compared to here in USA ~$1300 they were. HOWEVER, good thing I cancelled because I think there would have been warranty issues if I did that. So I did go ahead and re-ordered them from an authorized USA dealer. (:
I plan on running them through an iFi Micro Black Label with my iPad Pro for now but may invest in a proper laptop for the sake of finding more music. Not sure yet. I also have the audio gd 11.38 Pro so I will run them through that first most likely.
I could never justify making this purchasing unless I was rich but in my case headphones started my piano “career” so I owe this to myself haha. Although piano might not sound perfect on these headphones I am just excited that they are a great closed back can made from a quality Japanese manufacturer and my warranty and all just SO EXCITED THANK YOU
Glad I could help! I think the 9200 has the right amount of treble sparkle while still delivering a tight bass response. I couldn't find anything to really gripe about the headphone--except my mistaken preconception that it would have overwhelming bass like the D2000 and D5000. But, of course, that was entirely my fault.
No Theme Reviews Yes that certainly does sound more to my liking haha. Thanks again friend ! Keep the channel up
@No Theme Reviews do these Denon models isolate well? Other Fostex bio cellulose type headphones, which these are based on, seem to leak quite a bit for closed backs.
If you want want that non fatiguing Hifi sound - get the D7200!
But they are fatigueing after long listening Session because of the sparkly treble. The 5200 is smoother in this area
is the d7200 sound quality 500$ worth?
Depends on how much you like it. Nothing is worth its MSRP.
@@NoThemeReviews hifiman ananda vs lcd x vs these which one will you choose in order?
@@NoThemeReviews getting d7200 400$ open box and lcd 2C 500$, what do you think, which one should i get?
@@RX-rd4sc Well…they don’t sound the same. But Audeze headphones are uncomfortable over longer stretches, and more bulky. I personally like the sound of both, but I’d rather reach for the 7200 as it is far more comfy.
wondering why these review received dislikes. i bet even the manufacturers of these do not have technical/marketing materials which are 56min long in total
Video is just useless FPV, no timestamps,.. Impossible to find any valuable information unless you watch whole thing.
I had never in my life listened to a pair of hi end headphones before. I own a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50X, and today I took those and went into town to my local HIFI store, and I compared those with the Denon AH-D7200. I was expecting a WOW experience from the Denon's.....but I really thought that my Audio Technica sounded better. Off course this is coming from a non audiophile....but still, I was surprised that I preferred my $120 headphones over Denons $800. :-/
Did you used a good ampifier and source and dac of corse?
@@wadimek116 Both the AT and the Denons are very easy to drive, but yes, they were connected to a PRO-JECT HEAD BOX RS and BLUESOUND POWERNODE 2i, streaming TIDAL MQA.
@@NiklasMalmqvist Then I cant believe at it.
Your ears become accustomed to a certain frequency response after listening to it that way for a while. You really need a day or two of listening before you lose this listening bias and you can compare them accurately. It's usually when you try to go back to your old headphones after listening to new ones for a day or two that you can really notice the difference. So if you wanna save some cash, just never try new headphones and just let your ears get accustomed to whatever you've already got lol.
@@NiklasMalmqvist maybe you like the sound signature of your m50x. But if you could use an EQ you could see how much better the Denons are at...everything. I listened to both, own the Denons.
Catastrophic review
amateur
We’re all amateurs at the beginning, pal.