What Is THX | What Happened To THX | THX Deep Note History | What is THX Certification

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 2 года назад +37

    Often wondered what happened to THX? Watched hundreds upon hundreds of movies in THX at a local cinema from the early to mid ‘90s. Also, owned my own THX Ultra 2 home setup.
    Thanks for this video.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +2

      Glad I could help! 😊

    • @121gwjolt
      @121gwjolt 2 года назад +4

      Don't you mean
      "THX for the video."? =3

  • @madfinntech
    @madfinntech 2 года назад +25

    I really miss that deep note when putting in a movie. One of the prequel Star Wars movies had a pretty neat one back in the day the one with lightning from the surrounds. That blew me away!

  • @cinepaulis
    @cinepaulis 2 года назад +21

    Thanks for this video, which is a good summary of what THX was and currently is.
    Personally, I think the times have changed to such a degree that THX has kind of made itself obsolete.
    In the early years, the idea was to set a higher standard for movie payback that allowed the audience to see & hear what the creators intended you to experience. So seeing a movie in a THX certified theater gave you that " guarantee". This was usefull as the quality of the picture and sound varied quite a bit among theaters, at that time.
    When THX started certification for consumer electronics, it was also very useful, so you knew that your THX-certified equipment was properly suited for the task of optimal playback of movies at home. Again, this made perfect sense as the equipment that was available, varied greatly in quality and potential.
    However, in the following years THX started to lower their standards for the home. First only "THX" existed as the "seal of excellence". This was later re-branded as THX Ultra and a lower-spec THX Select was introduced, so manufacturers (and THX) could put the THX logo on more and more devices, simply by lowering their standards (which undermines their own philosophy that quality should come first).
    Meanwhile, technologies evolved and more and more companies already surpassed the standards of THX quite some time ago. In my personal view, THX has lowered their standards to such a degree, that it has become obsolete or is but a shadow of it's former self.
    Just for reference :
    I've watched and heard many films over several decades. Both in THX and non-THX theaters (with 35mm, 70mm, 70mm IMAX and digital 2K and digital 4K laser projection) and in home cinema's (on VHS, Laserdisc, DVD and Bluray). I've enjoyed the first Dolby Digital 5.1 presentations, the first DTS presentation, all the way to current Dolby Cinema (Atmos).

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +3

      All valid points!
      I think another thing is the marketing department. They seem like they've really scaled back on placing their logos before movies and products in the last ten years.

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 2 года назад +4

      How true. A perfect example of that was the late Arclight chain and the "Black Box" auditoriums they had. Each screen was like a miniature screening room. It seemed that they took the one thing that THX excelled at and expanded on it: controlled standards. The SMPTE standard by itself isn't half bad if theatre chains would actually adhere to it. That's the entire reason THX came into existence: to make the filmgoing experience as stable as possible from a technical standpoint.

  • @ClasssicAri
    @ClasssicAri 2 года назад +30

    George Lucas started ILM and THX and Star Wars? Legend

    • @Antidoxy
      @Antidoxy 2 года назад +3

      And Pixar too :)

    • @owijnings6378
      @owijnings6378 Год назад +1

      He also is responsible for digital film cameras in the cinema industry he made the first digital editing soft where and is the soul father of CGI he also had major involvement in Dolby.

  • @Anvilshock
    @Anvilshock Год назад +7

    Fun fact: The 20,000-loc figure is (now) heavily misquoted. In a 2015 interview, the man himself corrected an earlier statement of his and said how the actual code written to produce the sound was about 300 lines to configure an _existing_ sound generator and then 325 lines to actually "play" the configured generator. That said, the existing sound generator in question itself contained about 200,000 loc, ten times the (mis-) quoted figure, but those weren't specifically written for Deep Note, they were required to make the generator _be_ a generator in the first place instead of just dead hardware.

  • @nathanthesubzeromangold4615
    @nathanthesubzeromangold4615 2 года назад +21

    THX has a better sound on DVDs it makes it a great crystal-clear sound the way how it was but came out in theaters. High-definition sound. Changed everything Home Video Entertainment

  • @jefffan171
    @jefffan171 2 года назад +15

    Loved THX. Saw countless great titles in a THX certified Theatre near my old home. Loved picking up THX certified Laserdisc, DVD and even a few Blu-Ray and was running off my own THX Kef 7.1 Surround EX system. Come back THX to the masses please 🙏 Great video. Thank you for this

  • @christophergarofalo9662
    @christophergarofalo9662 2 года назад +10

    So cool! Thank you THX for developing a standard step of audio integration for at home entertainment!

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +2

      Right!?! we have them to thank for so much in home entertainment.

    • @THXLtd
      @THXLtd 2 года назад +2

      Happy to help!

    • @armend316
      @armend316 Год назад +1

      ​@@THXLtd please update all THX cinema' s around the world thank you! My wife and I always watch movies on a THX cinema instead of I-Max thank you!

  • @Ulgarth84
    @Ulgarth84 2 года назад +9

    I hear it almost everytime a watch a movie! My favorite movie theatre is THX certified and one of the best in Sweden. Actually its probably one of the best i've been to in the world having traveled alot in US.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +3

      I’ve been to 16 countries now. I would say the US has nice ones in big cities but once you get into smaller towns it’s hit or miss.

  • @raygarcia4062
    @raygarcia4062 2 года назад +9

    This is another great vid. Been in the cinema industry for 27 years. I was THX certified back in 2007 while working as a cinema tech; still am a cinema tech. 2nd vid I’ve seen from you guys and just great info for anyone wanted to learn about the industry.

  • @michwashington
    @michwashington 2 года назад +9

    I remember seeing a poster of THX at The AMC KABUKI 8 theatre 🎥 in San Francisco in the late 80’s or early 90’s thinking it was a sequel to THX 1138 😁fond memories. 👏

  • @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214
    @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214 2 года назад +15

    THX has a mascot named Tex, a red robot who first appeared with the premiere of Independence Day in 1996!

  • @jeevanmotors4275
    @jeevanmotors4275 2 года назад +9

    *Thx Changed the Dimension of Home Cinema Sounds Something Special*

  • @carcar5911
    @carcar5911 2 года назад +8

    I only buy thx certified equipment. I love thx. It always sounds amazing!

  • @chrisfratz
    @chrisfratz Год назад +5

    I have a set of Logitech surround sound speakers that I bought that have a THX badge on each speaker and the sound great for the price, not bad for $400.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  Год назад

      I think some people would consider $400 for a pair of speakers expensive 😆

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz Год назад

      @@MovieUniversity I've seen how expensive 5.1 speaker setups can go so I know for a fact that the setup I have is on the low end side. Although what I'm thinking of doing is getting an atmos capable receiver, and replacing the front stereos with a pair bookshelves and using the small Logitech speakers as atmos speakers. Plus I want to get a receiver regardless because the they included sub which is where everything plugs into only allows for SPDIF for your optical or coax at most for digital stuff. So I can't get surround sound out of a switch for example.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  Год назад

      @@chrisfratz Oh I'm well aware man. I got about 2k grand wrapped up in my system and that's taking into account buying everything on sale.
      Have you looked at refurbished speakers? Some companies like Klipsch sell their stuff at around 50% off.

    • @chrisfratz
      @chrisfratz Год назад +1

      @@MovieUniversity not yet, I just got my surround sound set up. In case you're curious to set up I have is a Logitech z906. They're technically designed for computers but it's working out recently on my TV. The next step for me is to get a receiver just so I can use native HDMI sources. My philosophy with my setup is that I want to put together something that's on a budget because I work a minimum wage job, but I also wanted to be something good. Which is what love me to get the Logitech Z906. Especially since it's been recommended to me by friends that I trust. And I'm currently pretty happy with it for now

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  Год назад

      @@chrisfratz I did the same thing years ago when I started out. When I was a teenager I got a Creative T7700 7.1 system. I loved it and had it for years. When I got married I eventually upgraded to a Samsung out of the box 7.1 system and then eventually the system I have now.
      We all got to start someplace.

  • @armend316
    @armend316 Год назад +2

    Earned a sub.+like! THX for me because of the original StarWars movies thank you!

  • @TETRARCHFREAK
    @TETRARCHFREAK 2 года назад +7

    I remember THX back in the day

  • @VincentAmadeus
    @VincentAmadeus 2 года назад +3

    Hello, I'm your fan from Indonesia 🇮🇩, great channel, videos and informations man, BTW, I just want to ask, please kindly put subtitles/captions in your video 🙏 And thank you for this wonderful channel, love it everybit

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +1

      I will try to remember to do this from now on.

  • @GeirGunnarss
    @GeirGunnarss 2 года назад +4

    Fun Fact: The Fun Fact about Deep Note needing 20.000 lines of code is wrong. According to James Anderson Moorer, it´s creator, Deep Note needed 355 lines of code in the original C language and another 300 lines in the patch for a synthesizer.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +2

      The deep note did indeed take 20,000 lines of C Code. Not only can this be easily found by a Google search but THX confirmed it to me via two separate people during two separate talks.
      I’ll even help you out
      www.google.com/search?q=deep+note+thx+20000+lines+of.code&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS711US711&oq=deep+note+thx+20000+lines+of.code&aqs=chrome..69i57.9259j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock Год назад

      @@MovieUniversity None of the search results actually quote THX themselves. They're all just re-quotes of that same figure, with none even one iota more reliable and trustworthy than the other.
      "Actually I made a mistake with that 20,000 lines of code statement - that was just off the top of my head. I need to correct that if I can figure out how, but it also depends a bit on what lines of code you count. The original 30-year-old C program is 325 lines, and the “patch” file for the synthesizer was 298 more lines. I guess it just felt like 20,000 lines when I did it." - Dr. Andy Moorer, interview with CDM, 2015
      You're welcome.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  Год назад +1

      @@Anvilshock Not only does the man himself say it here musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/05/tiny-music-makers-pt-3-thx-sound.html but you must have overlooked the part where I said THX confirmed it to me.

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  Год назад +1

      @@Anvilshock I have a direct line to THX. 20k lines of code is the official stance of the company. You running around on RUclips comment sections thinking you're changing the world by "correcting" people isn't going to change that.

    • @Anvilshock
      @Anvilshock Год назад

      @@MovieUniversity Either way, you are such a sad figure. You want to be some sort of respectable journalist, a reporter, an investigator, but all you're doing is joining the choir. One would have expected you'd be jumping at new piece of evidence when it emerges, especially when it goes against commonly available knowledge! Alas, all you're doing is arguing from authority, screaming, "my sources are better than your sources" without so much as a hint of a consideration as to what those sources actually say. You're not even interested in uncovering the truth. Rather you're fervently preaching dogmatic hearsay. You're not a journalist. You have more in common with a religious fanatic.
      "My source is better because it's the corp who said it." Yeah, how many times in the history of journalism has that ever not worked out so well for the truth.
      Again, me, change the world? Hah, I got nothing to lose. All I'm doing is presenting new evidence. It's you who doesn't want to see it. Here's an idea: If your line to THX is so direct, why don't you confront them with this new figure from 2015 and ask what this is about? Maybe they even thank you for correcting their own now outdated information. But of course, only if you're not too proud to do so.

  • @dankusoonyt7473
    @dankusoonyt7473 6 месяцев назад

    The reason why THX's popularity went down was because they began to phase out of certifying physical media release 1 year after the 2012 Blu-Ray releases of Indiana Jones 1-4, Titanic & Red Tails only to focus on cinema as a restructure, technology & digital media like streaming services or video games.

  • @michwashington
    @michwashington 2 года назад +3

    I MISS THX‼️

  • @Antidoxy
    @Antidoxy 2 года назад +2

    So how does that work in the end? Do I have to get everything THX certified from, bluray player, AVR to TV and of course speakers to have that experience?
    What if I use a PS5 as a bluray player which is not certified. Will it still be the same quality?
    And are movies still working with THX besides Star Wars? Like from WB for example?

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +1

      Yes, the ENTIRE pipeline has to be THX certified or it doesn't work. Same thing with Dolby Vision or any other electronics certification, the entire ecosystem of speakers, wires, TV etc. must all be certified by that company. You can't buy generic brand Walmart or Amazon cables and then expect premium performance. It's one of those things that you get what you pay for.

    • @Antidoxy
      @Antidoxy 2 года назад +1

      @@MovieUniversity ah, thought so. That's where it gets difficult. Didn't even think of the cables. Thank you for the response

  • @timjballin
    @timjballin 2 года назад +5

    But why aren’t theaters THX certified anymore?

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +5

      There are actually quite a few THX cinemas. Checkout this link. To find your nearest one. www.thx.com/cinema-finder/

    • @timjballin
      @timjballin 2 года назад +1

      @@MovieUniversity Thanks - that’s surprising to hear, as so many in the Chicago area that were THX certified no longer are.
      Love your videos!

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +4

      Thank you!
      Maybe those theaters didn't upgrade over the years with newer tech and THX pulled the certification.

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 2 года назад +4

      The theater certification program went to the wayside when Lucasfilm sold the THX name to Creative Technology (the Sound Blaster guys.) It no longer meant anything.

    • @timjballin
      @timjballin 2 года назад +1

      @@cubdukat I did not know that - thanks!

  • @GorositoTV
    @GorositoTV 2 года назад +2

    excelente video como siempre... no me acuerdo si te pregunte... hablas español?

  • @phillipallen5564
    @phillipallen5564 2 года назад +1

    rip klipsch thx 7.1 ex that was the last great receiver settings they had

  • @michaelparker5640
    @michaelparker5640 Год назад

    I hear it on my Pioneer Elite 😊

  • @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214
    @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214 2 года назад +1

    You get to see Tex at 8:17!

  • @cubdukat
    @cubdukat 2 года назад +2

    THX stopped being THX the day Lucasfilm sold them to Creative.

  • @fetizsrami
    @fetizsrami 2 года назад +1

    What do you think of Disney putting marvel films in imax enhanced on disney+? Is this the future of home cinema? Is the living room where Disney is aiming for?

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +1

      Disney aims for everything! And I think Disney putting the IMAX ratio movies on Disney plus is a fantastic thing.

    • @hoifungso4433
      @hoifungso4433 2 года назад

      It's a horror to watch IMAX ENHANCED MCU Contents at Home, All the 2K rendering CG double size to 4K is so terrible.

  • @jayreed1751
    @jayreed1751 Год назад

    What happens to cassette DigAlog?

  • @brentbaker6403
    @brentbaker6403 2 года назад +2

    hey man could you please do a video if you should see The Batman in IMAX 🙏??

    • @MovieUniversity
      @MovieUniversity  2 года назад +1

      That’s not a bad idea!

    • @brentbaker6403
      @brentbaker6403 2 года назад +1

      @@MovieUniversity Would be super appreciated if you do end up doing it !

  • @retrovariable3477
    @retrovariable3477 2 года назад +1

    Cool

  • @angelfabianmesina6099
    @angelfabianmesina6099 2 года назад +1

    Own by thx

  • @EliteTvman
    @EliteTvman 8 месяцев назад +1

    Titan tvman

  • @andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748
    @andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 2 года назад +1

    thx isn't relative anymore and besides how many actually have the professional THX in the home ? except me of course

  • @phillipallen5564
    @phillipallen5564 2 года назад +2

    THX isnt as good i had a setting on my new onkyo and it wouldnt let me ajust bass treble and the older one is way better dont ever buy a phone with thx its snake oil and maybe their theaters are good but home theater recievers with thx setting it sounds muffled unlike the older pioneers i had a pioneer it was the best one i ever had it was from 2007 or something so around 2012 was when recievers got cheap so now does he mean outdated as in blown ive seen newer speakers that still look old and have paper cones sometimes older is better it usually is but speakers are alot better they just need to make recievers better without naking them super expensive you think re eq would make the effects in a thx move have less treble so some people like me like there speakers timbre matched sounds like ancient car spakers in the back without tweeter and front ones have em man thx really has went down too much focus on gaming headsets and benq projectors dont even have that big of speakers and theres no sub at least ive neverseen one there cinemas and klipsch speakers are the only two good things they have and i bet there car audio is some of the best too phones with dolby atmos are snake oil too and they actually sound bad no matter how you ajust them thx phone audio might be better especially with klipsch headphones or earphones

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 2 года назад +1

      Well, now it's snake oil. If Lucasfilm were still in charge of THX, you wouldn't have it on anything else but movie theatres and home theater. It was never meant to be applied in all the ways its current owners are applying it. Lucasfilm wouldn't allow any of that shit to go on. THX meant something when they controlled it.

  • @producer_ben
    @producer_ben 12 дней назад

    Thx has lost any credibility it once had.

  • @t_wilson01
    @t_wilson01 9 месяцев назад

    Umm, ahh, umm, umm... ad nauseum. I just can't listen to someone who speaks in such manner.

  • @jacobhaimovitz4326
    @jacobhaimovitz4326 Год назад +1

    Onkyo has made very very good powerful immersive advanced impactful room-filling crystal-clearer cinematic high-performance/quality/end/fidelity low-distortion, noise-free, critically-acclaimed THX-Certified premium home theater surround audio/video receivers with seven nine or eleven channels of Dolby Atmos/Dolby Surround and DTS:X/DTS: Neural-X that all comes with 4K/8K UHD Passthrough/Upscaling, HDCP 2.2/2.3, Multiple HDR Formats with Dolby Vision, a Highly Advanced Room Correction Software Technology, Multiple Music Streaming Apps and many other very good features When you combine THX, Dolby Atmos/Dolby Surround, and DTS:X/DTS: Neural-X it makes sound way way more immersive impactful cinematic room-filling dynamic powerful advanced crystal-clearer three-dimensional atmospheric richer fully-detailed realistic lifelike awesome awe-inspiring sharper in which you get the same experience of a high-performance/quality/fidelity/end/volume, low-distortion, noise-free, commercial movie theater at home that makes big-sounding high-octane films such as enjoying listening and watching Disney-Lucasfilm’s Star Wars & Indiana Jones both with a 4K HDR/Dolby Vision picture & a Dolby Atmos soundtrack and other big-sounding high-octane films, television shows, music, games, and sports all in either 4K UHD HDR or 2K FHD SDR and also either in Dolby Atmos DTS:X Dolby Surround+Dolby Digital, DTS:Neural-X+DTS Multi-Channel Stereo all combined with THX makes sound way more immersive like you are watching listening and enjoying both film series from Disney-Lucasfilm along with much other high-octane big-sounding films, television shows, music, games, and sports in the way the filmmakers: directors producers production designers cinematographers special effects editorial team team sound mixers sound editors sound designers dialogue/adr team foley team composers musical team singer/band/artist game players and the color graders intended them to watch them