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My favorites have been the older M&K THX models. Maybe the s150? And the Klipsch THX ultra system. Granted this was in a front projection setup. Also at times they were almost too loud! But those systems truly gave me that big Cinema experience.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews hey Andrew, first I’d like to thank you for all that you do! 🙏🏽 I recently bought the entire 7 speaker set up from SVS Ultra with the towers, ultra center , 2surrounds, 2 prime heights and a PC2000 sub. Powered by the Denon 4700 I’m looking for true cinema type sound. I haven’t received them yet but now I’m starting to have second thoughts lol. You just introduced the B&W cinema system and it’s about $1500 per speaker lol. In your opinion, which system would sound more like a commercial theater? Have you heard the SVS ultra towers and center speaker system! Should I return it and get the B&W cinema speakers you mentioned in this video. Once again, I truly love your channel and thank you. I listen to you and Youthman religiously. Current system B&W 686-S2 for LR B&W HTM-62-S2 center Pv1D subwoofer from B&W B&W M1 satellites for surrounds. I loved this set up but never felt I was getting cinematic sound. Thank you so much for reading my post.
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Last theater experience (~4 Months ago) wife and I were unimpressed to say the least lol…I can have full control of audio in my budget home theater, no obnoxious moviegoers, and being able to make my own popcorn for next to nothing all while sitting in my far more comfortable recliner couch has convinced us that home theater is the way we enjoy movies most 👍 Thanks for the always fun reviews and videos!
I just ordered both the SVS ULTRA tower theater system and the Arendal 1723 S monitors theater system. I was about to get this Magnats system but decided to go with the other 2 and try them out based off of research. I was really leaning towards the B&W CT 7.3 and 7.4 for surrounds, I decided to go with the Arendals because of Sparechange’s review on them.
@@Techdiscussed yeah he did. I was going to do the same but I like the Arendals better. They both are accurate with cinema type sound except the Arendals have a bigger sound stage
@@Techdiscussed he just replied to me via his Patreon and said he would have kept the arendals but they took up too much space in his set up. He’s looking to sell his B&W once he finds good wall speakers. The Arendals are incredible!
@@raymondayala5355 good to hear, they are coming in today over here :) Although I just saw a review of the Magnat Ultra's they also looked very interesting for allot less 🤔
I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble understanding dialogue in modern films. I can watch old movies all day and not have a problem with dialogue, but new mixes frequently have me asking "What did they say?" or rewinding and putting on subtitles. I'm using a calibrated home theater as well. And no, this isn't for every movie of course, but many new ones have this issue.
I can't speak to "value" but--Kristi & Andrew--you might enjoy the Arendal 1723 speaker line. So far, I've only bought their Center 1723 THX Monitor and a single 1723 Subwoofer 2S. Only received these a few days ago but I've all but decided to keep these and order 2 of the 1723 THX Monitor for left & right. They weigh as though cast iron, being built with high-density cabinetry and many other good things! Their cabinet sizes are best described as "large"--Here's a quick quote of their site "All 1723 speakers passed the THX Ultra Certification without any change to the products, meaning our standards already exceed THX Ultra level out of the box!" The dialog clarity and transcendant bass seem to meet what I was hoping for end game speakers.
My man, I am getting the feeling that you are just having a room with very very good acoustics. You must be so lucky! Everything shines in your residence.
I’m running a pair of the LCR’s as my surround backs in conjunction with 5 Monolith 365t THX Ultra 2 mini towers along with 6 SVS elevation speakers for top front, middle and rear. In my subjective opinion they sound great, with excellent on and off axis performance and REW shows that they have excellent directivity and in room response (in my specific room)
These speakers are giving me "Atlantic Technology" vibes. I used to own the matching 8200 LCR speakers that were great for home theater. AT also had the 6200 and 4200 series. Their newest line is the 8600 series. AT has been around for decades. In the 80's I bought one of their first products which was a black box with 2 satellite speakers. The Box contained the bass, power and preamp and powered the satellites. It was a stereo system, not home theater. Why not give Atlantic Technology a look?
I think current audio mixing is just terrible for dialogue. If you watch a movie from the 90's or 2000's it is WAY better. As someone that struggles with understanding dialogue in modern tv shows and movies; I agree with Kristi that older shows are much easier to understand the dialogue.
Have you two ever considered doing an in-depth masterclass on HiFi and/or home A/V. Your informational videos are great, but I would absolutely love a fully structured series of videos that deep dives into all the terminology, how things function, how to piece together systems, from home cinema to stereo music systems with different inputs. I’d pay for it.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Don’t get me wrong. I love what you do, as-is. I just feel a little like a newb sometimes with some of the terminology and how easily you’re able to reference different brands and models. Admittedly I can’t afford these multi-thousand dollar speakers. I just went back and watched all your old $5 finds and RSD videos. Love your channel and you two’s rapport. Happy New Year.
Andrew & Kristi, happy new year! Since you mentioned several times in this review your previous career as cinema sound track engineer, would you care to mention the films, or are there NDAs involved? 😉 BTW, I quite like your response to the hair shirt audiophile’s generic proclamation that the polar dispersion pattern of horizontally oriented MTM must categorically exclude them from use as shown throughout most of your video - without having heard this system. But then, that’s kinda what tribal audio / videophiles sometimes do; as Randy the cheapaudioman has noted “we” can be full of crap.
I'm curious what you guys would think of Arendal speakers. They have several lines and the monitor and height speakers match up well on paper to these. The Arendals appear to have nice finishing options too.
QOTD. I use 5 x Lyngdorf MH2’s for LCRS . They are small but do a very good job when crossed over at 90-100Hz. Also if on a budget , one could consider Jamo D500 LCR’s
@@stevethomas2285 I just felt bad for Andrew who is such a fan and ultimately was so disappointed in the movie. But yeah, it was just weird. But nothing, and I mean, nothing has been as bad as the new Venom movie. We couldn't get through 20 minutes.
"They come in every finish so long as it's black." 😄 LOL I litetally spit my drink out at that one. 🤣 Funnily enough, my previous old RCA 2600 home theater broke tradition by making all the speakers the same ugly jet grey as the receiver itself -- neither of which went with anyone's living, TV or home theater room ever. 😀 I'll take the black, thank you very much! 🙂
I’m looking at buying a house with a dedicated screen room, but it currently has old equipment. First off, I’m replacing the projector with a Sony VW 325 ES 4k, but am undecided as to speakers - this was a timely review. Thanks.
So glad you two brought up the dialog problem. From one streaming movie to another I have to adjust the volume to understand the dialog. Sometimes even if I crank it way up I still can't understand it clearly. It's particularly frustrating when the actors are whispering. Perhaps we need to start a petition to have movies ascribe to a standard where dialog is discernable by everyone.
I recently overhauled my home cinema by adding my LS50 Meta’s as front left and right and another as centre, having found a retailer who would sell them individually. I think this way I have the best of both home cinema and stereo listening and am enjoying it so far.
I run a 5.2.5 Auro setup with these (incl. 2 SB 2000s) and love them. I think you did not mention that the 400s also can be run in a hight mode instead of upfiring by flipping a switch, which makes this series even more interesting. And all of them have vesa mounts which makes wall mounting very easy!
Old school Altec Voice Of The Theater speakers that I heard back in late 80's. They were used in a rehearsal studio as PA; made the singer in our band sound fantastic! Great for playback of rehearsal tapes as well...............
With the Magnats you made already a good pick from MAGNAT Germany. I recommend you look at ARENDAL and XTZ next. You get very good Cinema THX Speakers there also (Magnat is still THX Ultra 2 certified, while the other two have the "new" THX Ultra certification.)
Another decent German speaker company is Saxx. There trueSound range of cinema speakers while not THX Certified is higher efficiency, compression horn loaded, better bass. Bigger size than the Magnat THX speakers, had good reviews online. Though very bland aesthetics like the Magnat THX speakers. I myself have just bought received Saxx flagship DeepSOUND DS150DSP 15inch woofer sealed subwoofer. Very good performance for both movies & music in my small living room.
For Tenet, Nolan said that he uses very little overlap in the center channel dialog on purpose, but with a solid set up and mix, you have no issue with intelligibility of the dialog encouraging people to go to the theater. The interesting thing is that if you watch Tenet on stereo speakers, without a locked in center image, dialog is hard to pull out of the mix. There is an almost charming arrogance to Nolan's cinema-first mentality these days with even budget home systems performance levels. I naturally used Tenet as a test when I updated my system a few months back; it was a bit nerve wracking hitting play that first go.
Thanks for the review! Due to aesthetics, I think these speakers are the answer to someone looking to build a dedicated home theater. Great conversation at the end by the way.
I've never heard a cinema speaker package before, so I have no comparison. As for movie theaters, In the last 5 years I've found that they seem to rely on volume above anything else and don't seem to give a damn if they have blown speakers. This is one of the many reasons I prefer to wait for blu ray and watch at home.
Damn, those are sexy! I can’t say that everywhere without someone checking me for a concussion but this is a safe place. Happy New Year to you both, and Katie too.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews They take me back to my Radio days. If I had them in the living room I’d feel compelled to put a mic by my couch and an “On Air” light over the door!
Happy New Year!!! Do you use acoustic panels in your room? Or can you give your input on acoustic panels? I’m looking to install some in my room. DYI or purchase some. Thank you for all that you do.
Can you please compare these to the HTD level 3 bookshelf and center channel, I about to pull the trigger on a dedicated sealed theatre room and stuck on what route to take HTD or magnat
Acoustically it will matter, especially when off axis. It’s not recommended, but you can do it. It deals with the woofers being different distances away from your ears or side walls and cancellations occurring.
Interesting to hear about the dull look of them. As a blind guy, I bought a silver metal cabinate THX certified 5.1 system around 2007 in Australia. and saw your review and get the need to pull the trigger and swap mine out for more modern functionality (Atmos etc). That said, would miss the look and feel of the units I’ve got.
I thought I was the only one who didn't listen to 2 channel stereo anymore.Everything is faux surround,from oldies(50's&60's)to Metal,blues etc.Wow I don't feel alone anymore.Thanks Andrew btw I have Klipsch corner horns as my mains I'm doing a 5.0 system a/c of the bass coming from the K horns,any comments on this
At one of theaters I go to they use JBL's. They sound good. But they are really loud, like to the point of fatiguing. So I dont know if that's the speaker or just the theater running things way to loud. On the subject of the Transpuls, if you really think they are a poor man's Forte. I might have to do some real soul searching. Currently with my oldest in college and youngest being a senior, five grand for the Forte isn't going to happen. But the transpuls are a thousand a pair. That's got my attention. Great review!
In the spirit of home theater speakers would love to see a review of the Heco on-walls. We don’t have a tiny living room but due to furniture, aesthetics etc the 3 options that will work for us are : On wall Stereo 2 channel ( but I’d really like Atmos) Sony HT-A9 I was super stoked on the Sony but they are a) hard to get b) have dropout issues. Love the reviews, thanks.
Great video guys. I am primarily a 2 channel guy myself but seeing a second product from Magnat get shining reviews really has me thinking about a pair of Transpuls for the family room. I kinda like square 90 degree corners they just look no nonsense and all business. I think paired with my extra Yamaha 110wpc receiver I have stashed in the closet should be good.
Happy New Year Andrew and Kristi, I just recently picked up the BP9060 Towers and matching Center from Definitive Technology! The built in subwoofers have a huge sound and the price in my opinion is unbeatable for the quality and sound these things pump out! Would love to hear your opinion or maybe a review of the flagship 9080’s. I feel like they are super underrated on the home theatre department! Thanks for all the great videos!!
From everything that you have Sayed the only thing that my brain hold on to it was "the movie dare us to hit stop". Edited*** Well now that I finally watched I have to say without any spoilers that Andrew R had a real experience doing his best to avoid hit "stop". I knew that this possibility could show up for me as well, but I hoped that he probably was exaggerating... Now I agree.
Hey. Great review. Very informative. Question. Is there a way to get this in the states? I was checking the links you provided but I don't see a way to buy it in the website (I don't know if I'm doing something wrong). Thank you in advance.
I'm not sure that I have heard cinema speakers outside of commercial cinemas. And to be honest, going to a commercial theater relies heavily on the care of its employees and ownership (which often puts me off them altogether). My question for Andrew is what was the 5th speaker model that you enjoyed as much as the mentioned cinema style speakers?
I was wondering when someone was going to notice and/or ask about that 5th speaker setup. The 5th speaker system that makes the list consisted of five Tekton Pendragon monitors, and a Tekton Cinema Sub mated to an RBH 1212 subwoofer as well. It was a BIG setup that I hid (mostly) behind a 120" acoustically transparent screen. But that rig rocked!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for the response. As a former long-term projector user, I still entertain the thought of a future acoustically transparent screen down the line. At the moment, I still don't love the choices for budget 4k projectors, so I'm going to keep sitting really close to the x90j.
I use 30+ years old speakers for my home cinema setup. Front 2x Bowers & Wilkins V202, Rear 2x Bowers & Wilkins V201, Center Bowers & Wilkins CC6 and a Jamo SUB210. All connected on a Onkyo TX-NR626. Although all the equipement is not the most high end speakers or a top level receiver I'm very happy with my system. Audyssey did a great job (because the strange the werd shape of my room. The only tweak was a little bit more sub and some more center. I forgot my front high, those are little Philips bookshelf speakers with ribbon tweeter.
1. Kristi’s first question was my exact question. I have an 18’x19’ room, so I think I might actually like the bulkier Transpuls for LCR and maybe even all 5 or 7 if I wanted to be crazy. 2. Dialogue seems to be an issue for me on pretty much any streaming service unless I’m listening at -15db or higher. As a result I’m usually boosting the center channel anywhere from 5 to 12db.
Magnat are very well-known in Europe. In Australia, they tried to launch a couple of times and didn't quite make it. Lucky me got a very nice set at an auction. Cost me about 5K Oz. 7.2.4. They're brilliant.
I'm currently running Arendal speakers a mix of 1961 and 1723s, curious what your opinion would be compared to this set. Pricewise it is quite a difference.
Just bought 5 of these speakers and matched with SVS PB3000. They are outstanding. Give yourself a treat and play UHD version of Blues Brothers. Yes some amazing car crashes and explosions but real treat is hearing the base guitar of Don "Donald Duck" Dunn and the horns.
If enthusiasts wanted a system that sounds good with music and movies, should they get this magnat theater system but replace the front left and front right with the magnat transpuls 1500?
also the magnat transpuls are sneaky good - they dont look like much in terms of super expensive looking speakers - but their sound grows on you for the better - let them play music and loosen up a bit - its nice to listen to good sounding speakers once in a while - where your not bull--ting yourself
Hey A/K, Forgot to ask in prior comment, would you set the subwoofer to kick in at 80 Hz to match the 80 lower limit of that Magnat LCX 100? Or would you move it up to 100 to avoid forcing the LCX to it’s lower limit.
We used both during our evaluation period, however I photographed only the Klipsch sub because visually I didn't like our white 3000 Micro sub next to the all black Magnat system. Silly I know, but had I had a black SVS Micro I would've also featured it. But that shouldn't take anything away from the Klipsch as I find to be an exceptional subwoofer too!
Happy New Year Andrew & Kristi! Great review Andrew and thanks for asking that Transpuls question Kristi! What do you think about using one of these as center speaker along with the transpulses? Would that improve the dialog intelligibility in any way? Also, can I add these atmos speakers on top (literally) of the transpulses? I right now have a def tech cs9080 for center but somehow don't see the soundstage working well together (may be its the Klipsch like horn nature as Andrew said). I already ordered a Pioneer LX305 to replace my Denon 3700 based on Andrew's review of the 305, to improve dialog intelligibility. So, if you could suggest a good center speaker for the transpulses, I will really appreciate that. Thanks!
Dear Andrew, I'm going to buy them. Thank you for your review. My idea is to have a 5.1.2 but my only doubt is if the dolby atmos upward speakers are good enough or if you would add 4 in ceiling speakers to amount to 5.2.4??
I own JBLs and love the sound of anything JBL but whatever they had at my local AMC IMAX when I went to the new Spiderman sounded awesome! I usually prefer my home setup over theaters.
I started using subtitles for nearly all movies/TV shows like 5 years ago and I'm only 29. I just can't understand half of what is being said and it drives me crazy.
Hi Andrew and happy new year, i recently sarted upgrading my hi-fi system and im now left to upgrade my loudspeakers. Im told that the Proac Dt8 are the best for its price range, but i would like to hear your opinion, so is there any way that you could a review of them? Thank you
Big fan of the channel, especially the conversations between you both in the second half. Been wondering for a while; If you had to choose between the two, do you think you would get more out of 7.x.2 or 5.x.4?
IMHO I've never been THAT blown away by 7. anything setups when compared to 5. anything systems, so I'd likely go 5.1.4 before 7.1.2 with one catch. If my room was REALLY large and I had say more than two rows of seats, then 7+ channels may be necessary.
Great review. Question for Andrew or anyone :). After everything you have heard and experienced with? What is your set up choice for home theater first? Sound bar like ambeo, Hta9, 3.1, 5.1 and above or just classic stereo with lintons or model 5’s or something like that? Me I would love a front stage under a acoustic transparent screen but for now I’m rocking Sony a8 h and want to pair it with a rocking set up. Probably 3.2 or just 2.2? 😊 thanks.
My personal favorite setup for HT is 3.1.2 for when done right, the upward firing reflective speakers can actually do a good job in creating a surround-like effect without needing to use surround speakers per se. While not EXACTLY the same, it's a good facsimile that for me allows me to enjoy movies without needing to be completely surrounded by gear or speakers.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thank you Andrew. The more I think about it the more 3.1.2 sounds like it’s what I am looking for. Thank you for all the ideas and inspiration and for sharing your experiences. Thank you Kristy for your honest feedback and making it all possible. 🤙
Came across Arendal as well not too long ago on some home theater channels, and i'd be very interested in the Andrew Robinson review treatment on those ;) Bought the Transpuls 1000 based on your rave review of the 1500, as they're a bit more manageable in terms of size.
How would two SVS SB3000 subs sound with these? I would imagine they would get the job done? And the Transpul speakers, I could see buying a pair of those.
The SVS 3000 Micro subs work great. I didn't photograph them together because our SVS subs are white and this speaker package is black and I didn't like the clashing colors visually.
Hi Andrew, question about this with an RZ-50, recently been talking tomy brother he and has been talking about using a Bryston Amplifier, do you think having an external Amplifier or a pre amp makes a big enough difference to warrant the price?
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@Douglas Blake fluance speakers are shockingly good, especially their smaller bookshelf speakers.
My favorites have been the older M&K THX models. Maybe the s150? And the Klipsch THX ultra system. Granted this was in a front projection setup. Also at times they were almost too loud! But those systems truly gave me that big Cinema experience.
The 15 foot IMAX speakers are my favorite. They will never fit in a house but their performance is breath taking.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews hey Andrew, first I’d like to thank you for all that you do! 🙏🏽
I recently bought the entire 7 speaker set up from SVS Ultra with the towers, ultra center , 2surrounds, 2 prime heights and a PC2000 sub. Powered by the Denon 4700
I’m looking for true cinema type sound. I haven’t received them yet but now I’m starting to have second thoughts lol.
You just introduced the B&W cinema system and it’s about $1500 per speaker lol.
In your opinion, which system would sound more like a commercial theater? Have you heard the SVS ultra towers and center speaker system! Should I return it and get the B&W cinema speakers you mentioned in this video. Once again, I truly love your channel and thank you. I listen to you and Youthman religiously.
Current system
B&W 686-S2 for LR
B&W HTM-62-S2 center
Pv1D subwoofer from B&W
B&W M1 satellites for surrounds. I loved this set up but never felt I was getting cinematic sound. Thank you so much for reading my post.
You could test klipsch thx speaker! Never see a Review for them
Just want to wish everybody a Happy New Year! I hope you have everything you need to be happy and healthy in 2022!
And lastly, thank you for watching and supporting us!
You were spot on about what the real question was haha
@@hitters07 Why, thank you!
Happy New Year to you guys as well. Keep up the good work (and great release schedule.)
Last theater experience (~4 Months ago) wife and I were unimpressed to say the least lol…I can have full control of audio in my budget home theater, no obnoxious moviegoers, and being able to make my own popcorn for next to nothing all while sitting in my far more comfortable recliner couch has convinced us that home theater is the way we enjoy movies most 👍 Thanks for the always fun reviews and videos!
Colby, I'm honestly with you on the home cinema vs movie theater experience. I don't really miss it.
Thanks so much for watching and you and I are in agreement re: the actual cinema-going experience.
Plus I can pause the movie for bio breaks. At my age, that’s a deal breaker. 🙄
@@SeanVedell Hey, it happens and I'm not going to lie, I prefer the comfort of my own bathroom to the germ farm that is a theater toilet.
@@SeanVedell For real!! I get so stressed about that sort of thing at the movies. Andrew can tell you how it's a "whole thing". LOL
Hi Andrew ... Great review! Is the Arendal 1723 (1723S or 1961) speaker series on your "review soon" list?
I just ordered both the SVS ULTRA tower theater system and the Arendal 1723 S monitors theater system. I was about to get this Magnats system but decided to go with the other 2 and try them out based off of research. I was really leaning towards the B&W CT 7.3 and 7.4 for surrounds, I decided to go with the Arendals because of Sparechange’s review on them.
@@raymondayala5355 didn't he change to the B&W's?
@@Techdiscussed yeah he did. I was going to do the same but I like the Arendals better. They both are accurate with cinema type sound except the Arendals have a bigger sound stage
@@Techdiscussed he just replied to me via his Patreon and said he would have kept the arendals but they took up too much space in his set up. He’s looking to sell his B&W once he finds good wall speakers. The Arendals are incredible!
@@raymondayala5355 good to hear, they are coming in today over here :)
Although I just saw a review of the Magnat Ultra's they also looked very interesting for allot less 🤔
"This or the Transpuls? How did you NOT think of that?" -Kristy LOL.
That made me belly laugh. Love the authenticity of these reviews.
I'm glad I'm not the only one having trouble understanding dialogue in modern films. I can watch old movies all day and not have a problem with dialogue, but new mixes frequently have me asking "What did they say?" or rewinding and putting on subtitles. I'm using a calibrated home theater as well. And no, this isn't for every movie of course, but many new ones have this issue.
I can't speak to "value" but--Kristi & Andrew--you might enjoy the Arendal 1723 speaker line. So far, I've only bought their Center 1723 THX Monitor and a single 1723 Subwoofer 2S. Only received these a few days ago but I've all but decided to keep these and order 2 of the 1723 THX Monitor for left & right. They weigh as though cast iron, being built with high-density cabinetry and many other good things! Their cabinet sizes are best described as "large"--Here's a quick quote of their site
"All 1723 speakers passed the THX Ultra Certification without any change to the products, meaning our standards already exceed THX Ultra level out of the box!" The dialog clarity and transcendant bass seem to meet what I was hoping for end game speakers.
I would love to see a review of these speakers on the channel.
My man, I am getting the feeling that you are just having a room with very very good acoustics. You must be so lucky! Everything shines in your residence.
I have been using Magnat for years as ht speakers, most have no idea how good they can be. Glad to see them getting some love.
Couldn't agree more!
Hi there. Do you have any experience about Signature series 507/707 ?
I’m running a pair of the LCR’s as my surround backs in conjunction with 5 Monolith 365t THX Ultra 2 mini towers along with 6 SVS elevation speakers for top front, middle and rear. In my subjective opinion they sound great, with excellent on and off axis performance and REW shows that they have excellent directivity and in room response (in my specific room)
I also have 3 of the cinema ultra 100 for my front stage, sounds great, what settings are you using for yours
Need a video on the JBLs. Can't find one anywhere!!!
These speakers are giving me "Atlantic Technology" vibes. I used to own the matching 8200 LCR speakers that were great for home theater. AT also had the 6200 and 4200 series. Their newest line is the 8600 series. AT has been around for decades. In the 80's I bought one of their first products which was a black box with 2 satellite speakers. The Box contained the bass, power and preamp and powered the satellites. It was a stereo system, not home theater. Why not give Atlantic Technology a look?
I think current audio mixing is just terrible for dialogue. If you watch a movie from the 90's or 2000's it is WAY better. As someone that struggles with understanding dialogue in modern tv shows and movies; I agree with Kristi that older shows are much easier to understand the dialogue.
Have you two ever considered doing an in-depth masterclass on HiFi and/or home A/V. Your informational videos are great, but I would absolutely love a fully structured series of videos that deep dives into all the terminology, how things function, how to piece together systems, from home cinema to stereo music systems with different inputs. I’d pay for it.
It's on the table but not on the schedule. Appreciate you letting me know that you would like that type of content.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Don’t get me wrong. I love what you do, as-is. I just feel a little like a newb sometimes with some of the terminology and how easily you’re able to reference different brands and models. Admittedly I can’t afford these multi-thousand dollar speakers. I just went back and watched all your old $5 finds and RSD videos. Love your channel and you two’s rapport. Happy New Year.
Andrew & Kristi, happy new year! Since you mentioned several times in this review your previous career as cinema sound track engineer, would you care to mention the films, or are there NDAs involved? 😉 BTW, I quite like your response to the hair shirt audiophile’s generic proclamation that the polar dispersion pattern of horizontally oriented MTM must categorically exclude them from use as shown throughout most of your video - without having heard this system. But then, that’s kinda what tribal audio / videophiles sometimes do; as Randy the cheapaudioman has noted “we” can be full of crap.
I'm curious what you guys would think of Arendal speakers. They have several lines and the monitor and height speakers match up well on paper to these. The Arendals appear to have nice finishing options too.
Same.
As do I, my Arendal 1723-monitor-thx come tomorrow replacing my Klipsch Forte IIIs.
Dialogue buried in the mix makes me nuts. Thank God for subtitles. It’s a shame I have to use them but that’s where we are.
I've found out that I use them, now, all the time. Just a decade ago, I never thought about it.
Any chance of reviewing the Monoprice Monolith 365t / 365c THX Ultra certified LCR and comparing them against these?
Love your content btw :)
QOTD. I use 5 x Lyngdorf MH2’s for LCRS . They are small but do a very good job when crossed over at 90-100Hz. Also if on a budget , one could consider Jamo D500 LCR’s
Happy sunday. De-snowed my moms house, my house, and the shop. Ready for coffee and sunday audio fix
Well stay warm and get cozy with this one!
We were sitting at 80 something yesterday and now we are approaching freezing temps. So much fun! Coffee is definitely in order!
Here in Missouri, we needed at least a second cup of coffee today.
Awesome. Im just happy if the snow falls on a weekend. Then i can relax rather than scramble
I'd love to have you review the monoprice thx certified speakers with built in Atmos height channels.
"The speakers kept us listening even though the movie kept us wanting to hit stop."
Can't ask for more than that!
First time in a long time I sat through a film I did not enjoy based solely on the strength of the sound mix in our room.
Have you seen the new Matrix yet? Curious what you and others thought about it.
@@KristiWright I have not but you have my condolences for taking one for the team and losing two hours of your lives that you'll never get back.
@@stevethomas2285 I just felt bad for Andrew who is such a fan and ultimately was so disappointed in the movie. But yeah, it was just weird. But nothing, and I mean, nothing has been as bad as the new Venom movie. We couldn't get through 20 minutes.
@@KristiWright We don't talk about that movie. In fact I have no memory of those 20 minutes you speak of.
"They come in every finish so long as it's black." 😄 LOL I litetally spit my drink out at that one. 🤣 Funnily enough, my previous old RCA 2600 home theater broke tradition by making all the speakers the same ugly jet grey as the receiver itself -- neither of which went with anyone's living, TV or home theater room ever. 😀 I'll take the black, thank you very much! 🙂
I’m looking at buying a house with a dedicated screen room, but it currently has old equipment. First off, I’m replacing the projector with a Sony VW 325 ES 4k, but am undecided as to speakers - this was a timely review. Thanks.
So glad you found the review helpful!
How would these compare to the KEF R6 meta or paradigm 70 LCRs?
So glad you two brought up the dialog problem. From one streaming movie to another I have to adjust the volume to understand the dialog. Sometimes even if I crank it way up I still can't understand it clearly. It's particularly frustrating when the actors are whispering. Perhaps we need to start a petition to have movies ascribe to a standard where dialog is discernable by everyone.
I recently overhauled my home cinema by adding my LS50 Meta’s as front left and right and another as centre, having found a retailer who would sell them individually. I think this way I have the best of both home cinema and stereo listening and am enjoying it so far.
That's great!
I run a 5.2.5 Auro setup with these (incl. 2 SB 2000s) and love them. I think you did not mention that the 400s also can be run in a hight mode instead of upfiring by flipping a switch, which makes this series even more interesting. And all of them have vesa mounts which makes wall mounting very easy!
100% true. Sorry I glossed over the versatility of the Atmos speakers, that's on me, but you are right!
Old school Altec Voice Of The Theater speakers that I heard back in late 80's. They were used in a rehearsal studio as PA; made the singer in our band sound fantastic! Great for playback of rehearsal tapes as well...............
With the Magnats you made already a good pick from MAGNAT Germany. I recommend you look at ARENDAL and XTZ next. You get very good Cinema THX Speakers there also (Magnat is still THX Ultra 2 certified, while the other two have the "new" THX Ultra certification.)
Another decent German speaker company is Saxx. There trueSound range of cinema speakers while not THX Certified is higher efficiency, compression horn loaded, better bass.
Bigger size than the Magnat THX speakers, had good reviews online. Though very bland aesthetics like the Magnat THX speakers.
I myself have just bought received Saxx flagship DeepSOUND DS150DSP 15inch woofer sealed subwoofer. Very good performance for both movies & music in my small living room.
@@C--A if you look for German Subwoofers, look no further than MeroVinger Audio. They make the best built-to-order Woofers you can buy.
Have you reviewed any Atlantic Technology speakers?
Great review Andrew 👍
For Tenet, Nolan said that he uses very little overlap in the center channel dialog on purpose, but with a solid set up and mix, you have no issue with intelligibility of the dialog encouraging people to go to the theater. The interesting thing is that if you watch Tenet on stereo speakers, without a locked in center image, dialog is hard to pull out of the mix. There is an almost charming arrogance to Nolan's cinema-first mentality these days with even budget home systems performance levels. I naturally used Tenet as a test when I updated my system a few months back; it was a bit nerve wracking hitting play that first go.
Happy New Year, Kristi + Andrew! Looking forward to yet another year of great reviews!
Happy New Year to you!! Thank you for tuning in.
Here's to 2022 and ALL the changes it is about to bring 😉
this video quality of your content is next level along with the knowledge you bring. good stuff!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for the review! Due to aesthetics, I think these speakers are the answer to someone looking to build a dedicated home theater. Great conversation at the end by the way.
Thank you for hanging around to the end!
I've never heard a cinema speaker package before, so I have no comparison. As for movie theaters, In the last 5 years I've found that they seem to rely on volume above anything else and don't seem to give a damn if they have blown speakers. This is one of the many reasons I prefer to wait for blu ray and watch at home.
Since you like these you really should try getting some Arendal speakers for review.
They definitely look the business. Love it
Good morning, Doug!
They are the business and I love that they don't cost insane $$$. You could build whatever size HT around these easily!
Can I mix them with THX SELECT. And sonance cinema select LCR
Damn, those are sexy! I can’t say that everywhere without someone checking me for a concussion but this is a safe place. Happy New Year to you both, and Katie too.
I'm so glad I am not the only one. I actually think their utilitarian look is attractive.
:) HNY to you and your family, Sean. Thanks for being awesome.
@@KristiWright Don’t stop being you in ‘22!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews They take me back to my Radio days. If I had them in the living room I’d feel compelled to put a mic by my couch and an “On Air” light over the door!
Would these be ok for Atmos speakers? I am thinking of 15 of these to be part of a 9.4.6 Atmos setup.
Hello i have the Magnat in a 7.2.6 and it is the best i ever heared, it is an absolut masterpice❤
I Use a Denon AVC-A1H
@@to_the_limits3256 so this is good to hear. Are you using them for the 7 floor level only or also for height channels?
@@ottoburgess1555 I use 7 pieces at ear level, 6 of which are atmos speakers on top
Both Subwoofer are in Front of me
Happy New Year!!!
Do you use acoustic panels in your room? Or can you give your input on acoustic panels? I’m looking to install some in my room. DYI or purchase some.
Thank you for all that you do.
Happy New Year!......thanks for the review
Thanks for joining us!
wish I had the space for something like that@@andrewrobinsonreviews
Can you please compare these to the HTD level 3 bookshelf and center channel, I about to pull the trigger on a dedicated sealed theatre room and stuck on what route to take HTD or magnat
Well I bought 5 to start woot woot
is there a reason you decide to position the left and right horizon over vertical?
Because you can as the speakers are designed to work either way.
Acoustically it will matter, especially when off axis. It’s not recommended, but you can do it. It deals with the woofers being different distances away from your ears or side walls and cancellations occurring.
Interesting to hear about the dull look of them. As a blind guy, I bought a silver metal cabinate THX certified 5.1 system around 2007 in Australia. and saw your review and get the need to pull the trigger and swap mine out for more modern functionality (Atmos etc). That said, would miss the look and feel of the units I’ve got.
Good morning and Happy New Year!!!
Morning to you! HNY!
Happy New Year Roy!
I thought I was the only one who didn't listen to 2 channel stereo anymore.Everything is faux surround,from oldies(50's&60's)to Metal,blues etc.Wow I don't feel alone anymore.Thanks Andrew btw I have Klipsch corner horns as my mains I'm doing a 5.0 system a/c of the bass coming from the K horns,any comments on this
At one of theaters I go to they use JBL's. They sound good. But they are really loud, like to the point of fatiguing. So I dont know if that's the speaker or just the theater running things way to loud.
On the subject of the Transpuls, if you really think they are a poor man's Forte. I might have to do some real soul searching.
Currently with my oldest in college and youngest being a senior, five grand for the Forte isn't going to happen. But the transpuls are a thousand a pair. That's got my attention. Great review!
In the spirit of home theater speakers would love to see a review of the Heco on-walls. We don’t have a tiny living room but due to furniture, aesthetics etc the 3 options that will work for us are :
On wall
Stereo 2 channel ( but I’d really like Atmos)
Sony HT-A9
I was super stoked on the Sony but they are a) hard to get b) have dropout issues.
Love the reviews, thanks.
6:43 Perfect review of the new matrix movie
Great video guys. I am primarily a 2 channel guy myself but seeing a second product from Magnat get shining reviews really has me thinking about a pair of Transpuls for the family room. I kinda like square 90 degree corners they just look no nonsense and all business. I think paired with my extra Yamaha 110wpc receiver I have stashed in the closet should be good.
Would love a comparison to a Focal On-Wall system
Happy New Year Andrew and Kristi, I just recently picked up the BP9060 Towers and matching Center from Definitive Technology! The built in subwoofers have a huge sound and the price in my opinion is unbeatable for the quality and sound these things pump out! Would love to hear your opinion or maybe a review of the flagship 9080’s. I feel like they are super underrated on the home theatre department! Thanks for all the great videos!!
From everything that you have Sayed the only thing that my brain hold on to it was "the movie dare us to hit stop".
Edited***
Well now that I finally watched I have to say without any spoilers that Andrew R had a real experience doing his best to avoid hit "stop".
I knew that this possibility could show up for me as well, but I hoped that he probably was exaggerating... Now I agree.
I've been very impressed with D&B cinema speakers. They also always seem to be excellent live venue speakers. The PA speakers by D&B are exceptional.
Hey. Great review. Very informative. Question. Is there a way to get this in the states? I was checking the links you provided but I don't see a way to buy it in the website (I don't know if I'm doing something wrong). Thank you in advance.
I'm not sure that I have heard cinema speakers outside of commercial cinemas. And to be honest, going to a commercial theater relies heavily on the care of its employees and ownership (which often puts me off them altogether). My question for Andrew is what was the 5th speaker model that you enjoyed as much as the mentioned cinema style speakers?
I was wondering when someone was going to notice and/or ask about that 5th speaker setup. The 5th speaker system that makes the list consisted of five Tekton Pendragon monitors, and a Tekton Cinema Sub mated to an RBH 1212 subwoofer as well. It was a BIG setup that I hid (mostly) behind a 120" acoustically transparent screen. But that rig rocked!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thanks for the response. As a former long-term projector user, I still entertain the thought of a future acoustically transparent screen down the line. At the moment, I still don't love the choices for budget 4k projectors, so I'm going to keep sitting really close to the x90j.
Have you had a chance to review any Arendal speakers, specifically the 1961 or the 1723 models?
seconded
I use 30+ years old speakers for my home cinema setup. Front 2x Bowers & Wilkins V202, Rear 2x Bowers & Wilkins V201, Center Bowers & Wilkins CC6 and a Jamo SUB210. All connected on a Onkyo TX-NR626.
Although all the equipement is not the most high end speakers or a top level receiver I'm very happy with my system.
Audyssey did a great job (because the strange the werd shape of my room.
The only tweak was a little bit more sub and some more center. I forgot my front high, those are little Philips bookshelf speakers with ribbon tweeter.
Dear Andrew my best wishes and health for 2022 for you and Christi
Curious how these compare to the Klipsch THX-6000 LCR Cinema Speakers
1. Kristi’s first question was my exact question. I have an 18’x19’ room, so I think I might actually like the bulkier Transpuls for LCR and maybe even all 5 or 7 if I wanted to be crazy.
2. Dialogue seems to be an issue for me on pretty much any streaming service unless I’m listening at -15db or higher. As a result I’m usually boosting the center channel anywhere from 5 to 12db.
I absolutely love the chemistry between you both....its truly something special.
nice reviews you guys .
Thanks! 👍
Magnat are very well-known in Europe. In Australia, they tried to launch a couple of times and didn't quite make it. Lucky me got a very nice set at an auction. Cost me about 5K Oz. 7.2.4. They're brilliant.
Where to buy in Canada? I wasn't able to via their website!?!? Thanks 🙂
Happy New Year!...
Are the Transpuls 800A not available in the U.S.?...
The 800As are not available in the US...yet.
I'm currently running Arendal speakers a mix of 1961 and 1723s, curious what your opinion would be compared to this set.
Pricewise it is quite a difference.
arendahl awesome-esp the subs
Just bought 5 of these speakers and matched with SVS PB3000. They are outstanding. Give yourself a treat and play UHD version of Blues Brothers. Yes some amazing car crashes and explosions but real treat is hearing the base guitar of Don "Donald Duck" Dunn and the horns.
How can watch your feature that you talked about? Thanks! Great review.
Please watch this segment for more answers ruclips.net/video/390s-te3FSE/видео.html
If enthusiasts wanted a system that sounds good with music and movies, should they get this magnat theater system but replace the front left and front right with the magnat transpuls 1500?
also the magnat transpuls are sneaky good - they dont look like much in terms of super expensive looking speakers - but their sound grows on you for the better - let them play music and loosen up a bit - its nice to listen to good sounding speakers once in a while - where your not bull--ting yourself
Cool vid man 👍 ... Oh and happy New year to you n yours 🍺
Thanks so much and happy New Year to you and yours as well!
Hey Andrew, what would your "go to" 5.1/5.2 layout? Mainly watching movies. Tried seeing if you had a video of your go to couldn't find it. Thanks!
Wish I could afford speakers of any sort. Speakers are expensive :(
Hey A/K,
Forgot to ask in prior comment, would you set the subwoofer to kick in at 80 Hz to match the 80 lower limit of that Magnat LCX 100? Or would you move it up to 100 to avoid forcing the LCX to it’s lower limit.
I am curious why you are using the Klipsch sub and not the SVS Micro?
We used both during our evaluation period, however I photographed only the Klipsch sub because visually I didn't like our white 3000 Micro sub next to the all black Magnat system. Silly I know, but had I had a black SVS Micro I would've also featured it. But that shouldn't take anything away from the Klipsch as I find to be an exceptional subwoofer too!
Thanks for the review. Sad, that you haven't had the chance to review the sub and die Dipoles!
Hello, decided to go for them by watching your video for recording and mastering purposes. Is there any delay while live recording with cinema 50?
Happy New Year Andrew & Kristi! Great review Andrew and thanks for asking that Transpuls question Kristi! What do you think about using one of these as center speaker along with the transpulses? Would that improve the dialog intelligibility in any way? Also, can I add these atmos speakers on top (literally) of the transpulses? I right now have a def tech cs9080 for center but somehow don't see the soundstage working well together (may be its the Klipsch like horn nature as Andrew said). I already ordered a Pioneer LX305 to replace my Denon 3700 based on Andrew's review of the 305, to improve dialog intelligibility. So, if you could suggest a good center speaker for the transpulses, I will really appreciate that. Thanks!
Hello Andrew. Thank you very much for taking a look at Magnat Signature Series, especially 507/707
Good video. I am also very curious about their $250 pair Monitor supreme 202 bookshelfs.
Dear Andrew, I'm going to buy them. Thank you for your review. My idea is to have a 5.1.2 but my only doubt is if the dolby atmos upward speakers are good enough or if you would add 4 in ceiling speakers to amount to 5.2.4??
Wonder how these compare to Chane 752 speakers
On the topic of cinema home theater speakers would you consider ever doing a review of the JBL CBT 70J-1 speakers?
I would consider them, but full disclosure, until you brought them up I wasn't considering them...but now I'm curious.
YES... My Man Andrew. Thank you for this one.
My pleasure!
I own JBLs and love the sound of anything JBL but whatever they had at my local AMC IMAX when I went to the new Spiderman sounded awesome! I usually prefer my home setup over theaters.
Great review, thanks.
Do review the Ultra 300 sub if possible.
I started using subtitles for nearly all movies/TV shows like 5 years ago and I'm only 29. I just can't understand half of what is being said and it drives me crazy.
Hi Andrew and happy new year, i recently sarted upgrading my hi-fi system and im now left to upgrade my loudspeakers. Im told that the Proac Dt8 are the best for its price range, but i would like to hear your opinion, so is there any way that you could a review of them?
Thank you
Big fan of the channel, especially the conversations between you both in the second half. Been wondering for a while; If you had to choose between the two, do you think you would get more out of 7.x.2 or 5.x.4?
IMHO I've never been THAT blown away by 7. anything setups when compared to 5. anything systems, so I'd likely go 5.1.4 before 7.1.2 with one catch. If my room was REALLY large and I had say more than two rows of seats, then 7+ channels may be necessary.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews you have no idea how much help this comment gave me. Thank you, love your channel, and Happy New Year!
Great review. Question for Andrew or anyone :).
After everything you have heard and experienced with? What is your set up choice for home theater first? Sound bar like ambeo, Hta9, 3.1, 5.1 and above or just classic stereo with lintons or model 5’s or something like that? Me I would love a front stage under a acoustic transparent screen but for now I’m rocking Sony a8 h and want to pair it with a rocking set up. Probably 3.2 or just 2.2? 😊 thanks.
My personal favorite setup for HT is 3.1.2 for when done right, the upward firing reflective speakers can actually do a good job in creating a surround-like effect without needing to use surround speakers per se. While not EXACTLY the same, it's a good facsimile that for me allows me to enjoy movies without needing to be completely surrounded by gear or speakers.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews thank you Andrew. The more I think about it the more 3.1.2 sounds like it’s what I am looking for. Thank you for all the ideas and inspiration and for sharing your experiences. Thank you Kristy for your honest feedback and making it all possible. 🤙
finally somebody is reviewing these. thanks guys
Thank you so much, Wolfgang 10247! We appreciate you watching.
Thanks for doing this type of speaker. Would like to see review of Magnats other speaker lines as well
Happy New Year 😊 Thanks for yet another nice review👏 You guys should check out Arendal Sound as well 👍
I can't remember if Kristi reached out to them or not, but I will give them a look online just in case. Thanks for the tip!
Came across Arendal as well not too long ago on some home theater channels, and i'd be very interested in the Andrew Robinson review treatment on those ;) Bought the Transpuls 1000 based on your rave review of the 1500, as they're a bit more manageable in terms of size.
Just get two transpulls for stereo and cinema for the rest, should be able to tune them in avr for cinema and still have awesome stereo speakers
You're not wrong. 😉
Yes! Exactly what I was thinking
How would two SVS SB3000 subs sound with these? I would imagine they would get the job done? And the Transpul speakers, I could see buying a pair of those.
The SVS 3000 Micro subs work great. I didn't photograph them together because our SVS subs are white and this speaker package is black and I didn't like the clashing colors visually.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Cool... And then you had to mention the Transpul speakers... I'm getting a pair of those... Dumb Ass Grin on face right now.
Hi Andrew, question about this with an RZ-50, recently been talking tomy brother he and has been talking about using a Bryston Amplifier, do you think having an external Amplifier or a pre amp makes a big enough difference to warrant the price?
Approx. 4:55 - The Speakers can use a cheaper sub, but can the speakers with an REI or something better worth the EXTRA Price of the SUB?