thanks for a great review I have owned a full Arendal 1723 system since they first came to market some 6 years ago now and they still bring a smile to my face just last week I added 1961 Monitors as wide speakers making it a 9.1.6 system my only wish is that they would introduce a in-wall 1723 to put behind my PJ screen good luck with the channel Andy
Never heard of Magnat before but everyone says great things about them. I willnsay going with Arendal is 💯 I have a full 7.2.4 1723 thx setup and they are endgame speakers.
Sweet dude. I have 1961 towers, 1723s center, 1961 monitors for surrounds, and 2 1962 atmos speakers. 1723 1V sub. Getting another sub next year. Sounds so good. Outlaw amp for 7 speakers.
Hey, I already own a 1961 1V subwoofer with Q Acoustics 3020i/3090Ci/3010i speakers on the base level and Dali Alteco hooked up to a NAD T758 V3i in a 5.1.2 Top Middle configuration. I'm on the fence about either buying an external 6-channel amp and another set of Altecos to go for a 5.1.4 configuration and stressing my receiver a bit less, or swapping out my center channel for the Arendal 1961 Center (It sometimes feels like the QA center might be a bit too small for my room (3.2m listening distance)). I could get a good deal on the amp and Altecos, so that option would only be slightly more expensive than selling my current center and going for the Arendal. My concerns are mismatch in the front stage (I have Dirac Live on my receiver though, so that might compensate it adequately) and high load on my receiver (1961 center rated at 4 Ohm). Which upgrade path would make more sense in your opinion?
Hi. Amp is always a good route. Keeping speakers the same is the best for even sound stage. Arendal does the 60 day buy and try. Im actually goin to get the 1723s center just for more range. The center channel actually does a lot of work the more I learn about our hobby. Im also getting a Outlaw 7000x amp. I want my receiver to run cooler! Lol. Go with what feels right to you. Good luck Martin.
@@htnorthman6234 Went for the 5.1.4 for now. I am going to upgrade the whole front in the future when I can afford it. Thank you for the advice and have fun with the 1723 S center!
Hey, thanks for sharing! This video has helped me to go the Arendal Sound route as well. I’m thinking about choosing the 1723 Towers for L/R and the 1723 Centre. For the rears i’m actually thinking about using the 1961 monitors, would you say that the 1961 monitors would be a good fit for use as rear channels? I dont want to use the Tri-axials Line (surround models) as i want my theater to be as close to Dolby spec as possible. (And Dolby states that all speakers should be "point source") Greetings from Denmark!
Hi The 1961 monitors. They would work good for that. I know the Tri-axial sounds have a switch to turn side speakers on and off also. I guess it would depend if you want to run your speakers full range. You got the 1723S series also. Get extra and compare them. 60 day buy and try. See what you like best. Then return the ones you dont want. Good luck from Wisconsin.😀🍻🍻🍻
@@htnorthman6234 Thanks! I think im going to start off by getting the 1961 monitors as surrounds. When i move i might upgrade to the 1723 Monitors as rears also. Then i can use the 1961 monitors as heights! Thanks for taking the time to answer, you have gained a new subscriber :)
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf Yea, but then im buying a triaxial speaker and only using half of it.... I have come to the conclusion that im going to wait until i can afford the 1723 monitors as rears.
To be honest, it was kinda no contest. Long-time 1961 owner here (since they were released); that whole series is highly recommended. IMO they are the best budget speaker series almost no one knows about. Thankfully, that seems to be changing. NOTE: The back of all of the 1961 speakers (except the Towers) are VESA 100 compatible.
When I listened to the movie. I did in stereo with the arendals. Phantom center was good. Obviously if your too far seating left or right it wont be the best. Have a good day.
I only ran them to around 80db. No distortion from either. Thats too loud for me. They both still sound good at that level. Imaging on both was pretty good.
Hey mate! Thank you for sharing your opinon with the community. Liked your video. I am considering to upgrade my system with Arendal speakers too as the receive great objective and subjective reviews and I have some questions for you. I will be grad if you have the opportunity to answer these questions. 1) How big is your room? How far is the distance from the Main speakers to the Main Listening Position? 2) Did you use the Arendals with a sub or full range? 3)Did you consider the bigger series (1723/ 1723s)? 4) Did you buy the bookshelves? If yes , how does it sound compared to the monitor? Thanks a lot!
Hi Nikos My room is 15x22 ft. Im at 11 ft from my front stage. We just did two channel listening at full range. No sub. I did consider the 1723s series. However a bit more in price. After hearing the 1961 I am sold. Dont have the bookshelfs. However I will be getting the atmos speakers soon. The monitors are goin to be my side and back surround speakers. The 1961 towers in front with 1723s for my center. Atmos in ceiling then. Probably 1723 1v sub. Hope this helps.
@@Nickceid It is fuller in sound because it gets a little deeper in hz. Im glad I went with it. If someone went with the 1961 monitor center, they will still be happy. There stuff is just great.
Did you make measurements with REW for example to see what frequency response you had at the listening point ? I am talking about putting both loudspeakers in the same location and in height. Written with translator Greetings
@@htnorthman6234 If you do not have measurements of the speakers in your room, it is impossible. compare a product objectively. A clear example, if the Magnat in your room at the main listening point has a different frequency response than the Arendal and vice versa, the result is not objective. Hence my question about REW measurements. Thank you for your kindness in answering. Regards
If you want a speaker by only measurements thats up to you. I chose which one sounded best to me. In the end that is what you need to do. Listen to the speakers. See which ones sound better to you and nobody else. I did my research way before even getting to this point of purchase. Im not selling or making any money with my one video dude. Just an opinion. I guess we cant have opinion in this world anymore. Jeez.
@@htnorthman6234 Of course you can give your opinion, but be objective. If you ever make measurements with REW you will understand. I am sure that the Magnat and Arendal have a different frequency response at their main listening point. at their main listening point and hence the subjectivism in your comments.
@@htnorthman6234 she is at least 6,6ft... btw i will built diy with FOCAL ACCESS 30A4 + ACCESS 165AS huge LCR ..a full 7.0 setup of 3 WWMttMWW, for center, left and right speakers (+4 surround) W=12inch, M 6,5 inch, tweeter, 1inch... the LCR will be 6ft long. i have 16 focal access30 and 6 kits access165as for lcr and surround... i,am lucky to be in France when i see the cost of this drivers in USA
THX . but have you ever been to an actual professional THX cinema and if so list the cinema the films , film type . as most just buy THX have 0 clue what to expect , since THX designed to go beyond the substandard of cinemas that had poor sound up til 1983 and maybe few was okay ? i seen same film print 70mm in standard Dolby ABC 1 bournemouth and same 70mm again in THX sound system , way , way dB huge difference , 'indiana jones and the last crusade' at CIC Empire Licester Square and since then wanted JBL professional even the same pro THX sound system . seen many of same standard and in THX and THX pro spec but can those speakers THX play 'star trek 6' opening music credits before the explosion and can you set them up using manual EQ 1/3 octave eq . and keep those speakers behind the screen in a baffle wall at middle height of the screen . and do them as x5 using five screen wide, no nothing do with front wide . 70mm todd-ao SDDS 8 five screen , that is what i mean . I'm ex projectionist UCI cinemas and warner bros . if i was testing those speakers i know what classic Dolby Stereo 70mm to test them with . I can recall how a movie sounded like and felt like in THX 32 years ago and certainly even Sensurround , earthquake '75 aged 8 . scary sub bass .
I like that you both provided your insights on both speaker. A big plus if you are into music and HT.
thanks for a great review
I have owned a full Arendal 1723 system since they first came to market some 6 years ago now and they still bring a smile to my face
just last week I added 1961 Monitors as wide speakers making it a 9.1.6 system
my only wish is that they would introduce a in-wall 1723 to put behind my PJ screen
good luck with the channel
Andy
Thanks. Your welcome. Thats awesome dude. I just got the Outlaw audio 7000X amp. Boy does that make a difference. First amp ever for me. Peace.
Great Viedeo, and i personally would go with the magnats, there are absoluts beasts and i think i personally need the higer 93 db
Never heard of Magnat before but everyone says great things about them. I willnsay going with Arendal is 💯 I have a full 7.2.4 1723 thx setup and they are endgame speakers.
Sweet dude. I have 1961 towers, 1723s center, 1961 monitors for surrounds, and 2 1962 atmos speakers. 1723 1V sub. Getting another sub next year. Sounds so good. Outlaw amp for 7 speakers.
magnat is not good
@@hotdog9262 Magnat is great, depends which one tho
I prefer the Magnat way over the Arendal!
Hey, I already own a 1961 1V subwoofer with Q Acoustics 3020i/3090Ci/3010i speakers on the base level and Dali Alteco hooked up to a NAD T758 V3i in a 5.1.2 Top Middle configuration. I'm on the fence about either buying an external 6-channel amp and another set of Altecos to go for a 5.1.4 configuration and stressing my receiver a bit less, or swapping out my center channel for the Arendal 1961 Center (It sometimes feels like the QA center might be a bit too small for my room (3.2m listening distance)). I could get a good deal on the amp and Altecos, so that option would only be slightly more expensive than selling my current center and going for the Arendal.
My concerns are mismatch in the front stage (I have Dirac Live on my receiver though, so that might compensate it adequately) and high load on my receiver (1961 center rated at 4 Ohm).
Which upgrade path would make more sense in your opinion?
Hi. Amp is always a good route. Keeping speakers the same is the best for even sound stage. Arendal does the 60 day buy and try. Im actually goin to get the 1723s center just for more range. The center channel actually does a lot of work the more I learn about our hobby. Im also getting a Outlaw 7000x amp. I want my receiver to run cooler! Lol. Go with what feels right to you. Good luck Martin.
@@htnorthman6234 Went for the 5.1.4 for now. I am going to upgrade the whole front in the future when I can afford it. Thank you for the advice and have fun with the 1723 S center!
@@falco100049 Thats awesome. Enjoy your system. Your welcome.
Can u do a review of the xtz cinema speakers also then?.
I can try to get them. 😀
Arendal or Klipsch Thx-650 which one best movie performance??
I would go with Arendal just because you will have a 10yr warranty. If you demo both in your home. I would do that if ya can.
No mention of the Hans Bekhuyzen channel?
Hey, thanks for sharing! This video has helped me to go the Arendal Sound route as well. I’m thinking about choosing the 1723 Towers for L/R and the 1723 Centre. For the rears i’m actually thinking about using the 1961 monitors, would you say that the 1961 monitors would be a good fit for use as rear channels? I dont want to use the Tri-axials Line (surround models) as i want my theater to be as close to Dolby spec as possible. (And Dolby states that all speakers should be "point source")
Greetings from Denmark!
Hi
The 1961 monitors. They would work good for that. I know the Tri-axial sounds have a switch to turn side speakers on and off also. I guess it would depend if you want to run your speakers full range. You got the 1723S series also. Get extra and compare them. 60 day buy and try. See what you like best. Then return the ones you dont want. Good luck from Wisconsin.😀🍻🍻🍻
@@htnorthman6234 Thanks! I think im going to start off by getting the 1961 monitors as surrounds. When i move i might upgrade to the 1723 Monitors as rears also. Then i can use the 1961 monitors as heights!
Thanks for taking the time to answer, you have gained a new subscriber :)
Crazy in same boat
u can make the triaxials monopole by discarding the jumper
@@ffdfdfdfdfdfdfdf Yea, but then im buying a triaxial speaker and only using half of it.... I have come to the conclusion that im going to wait until i can afford the 1723 monitors as rears.
To be honest, it was kinda no contest. Long-time 1961 owner here (since they were released); that whole series is highly recommended. IMO they are the best budget speaker series almost no one knows about. Thankfully, that seems to be changing. NOTE: The back of all of the 1961 speakers (except the Towers) are VESA 100 compatible.
I just got my theater revamped. 1961 series. 1723s center. Waiting on 1723 1V. Sound stage is frikin amazing. Im very pleased.
Great review! I'm considering using a pair of 1961 Monitors in a 2.2 home theater setup. Any idea how well these would do creating a phantom center?
When I listened to the movie. I did in stereo with the arendals. Phantom center was good. Obviously if your too far seating left or right it wont be the best. Have a good day.
Depends on your seating arrangement and distance, but the staging on the Arendals is excellent.
Thanks for the review! Which pair plays louder without distortion? How about imaging?
I only ran them to around 80db. No distortion from either. Thats too loud for me. They both still sound good at that level. Imaging on both was pretty good.
Hey mate! Thank you for sharing your opinon with the community. Liked your video. I am considering to upgrade my system with Arendal speakers too as the receive great objective and subjective reviews and I have some questions for you. I will be grad if you have the opportunity to answer these questions.
1) How big is your room? How far is the distance from the Main speakers to the Main Listening Position?
2) Did you use the Arendals with a sub or full range?
3)Did you consider the bigger series (1723/ 1723s)?
4) Did you buy the bookshelves? If yes , how does it sound compared to the monitor?
Thanks a lot!
Hi Nikos
My room is 15x22 ft.
Im at 11 ft from my front stage.
We just did two channel listening at full range. No sub.
I did consider the 1723s series. However a bit more in price. After hearing the 1961 I am sold.
Dont have the bookshelfs. However I will be getting the atmos speakers soon.
The monitors are goin to be my side and back surround speakers. The 1961 towers in front with 1723s for my center. Atmos in ceiling then. Probably 1723 1v sub.
Hope this helps.
Hi again! How do you like the 1723s center compared to the 1961 monitor?
@@Nickceid It is fuller in sound because it gets a little deeper in hz. Im glad I went with it. If someone went with the 1961 monitor center, they will still be happy. There stuff is just great.
Did you make measurements with REW for example to see what frequency response you had at the listening point ?
I am talking about putting both loudspeakers in the same location and in
height.
Written with translator
Greetings
I dont have REW to do any measurements. Erins audio corner actually has some measuring on his you tube channel. Thanks for watching. Have a great day.
@@htnorthman6234 If you do not have measurements of the speakers in your room, it is impossible.
compare a product objectively.
A clear example, if the Magnat in your room at the main listening point has a different frequency response than the Arendal and vice versa, the result is not objective.
Hence my question about REW measurements.
Thank you for your kindness in answering.
Regards
If you want a speaker by only measurements thats up to you. I chose which one sounded best to me. In the end that is what you need to do. Listen to the speakers. See which ones sound better to you and nobody else. I did my research way before even getting to this point of purchase. Im not selling or making any money with my one video dude. Just an opinion. I guess we cant have opinion in this world anymore. Jeez.
@@htnorthman6234 Of course you can give your opinion, but be objective.
If you ever make measurements with REW you will understand.
I am sure that the Magnat and Arendal have a different frequency response at their main listening point.
at their main listening point and hence the subjectivism in your comments.
Aren't these Magnat more for movies ... they are THX speakers
They also sound good with music.
Arendal look better, I owned magnat years ago in the end 80s (ALL RIBBON 10) and both tweeter was blown. .. btw, you wife is mega tall 😮
The Arendals are a lot nicer. Lol, she is all of 5’1” tall.
@@htnorthman6234 she is at least 6,6ft... btw i will built diy with FOCAL ACCESS 30A4 + ACCESS 165AS huge LCR ..a full 7.0 setup of 3 WWMttMWW, for center, left and right speakers (+4 surround) W=12inch, M 6,5 inch, tweeter, 1inch... the LCR will be 6ft long. i have 16 focal access30 and 6 kits access165as for lcr and surround... i,am lucky to be in France when i see the cost of this drivers in USA
THX . but have you ever been to an actual professional THX cinema and if so list the cinema the films , film type . as most just buy THX have 0 clue what to expect , since THX designed to go beyond the substandard of cinemas that had poor sound up til 1983 and maybe few was okay ? i seen same film print 70mm in standard Dolby ABC 1 bournemouth and same 70mm again in THX sound system , way , way dB huge difference , 'indiana jones and the last crusade' at CIC Empire Licester Square
and since then wanted JBL professional even the same pro THX sound system .
seen many of same standard and in THX and THX pro spec
but can those speakers THX play 'star trek 6' opening music credits before the explosion and can you set them up using manual EQ 1/3 octave eq . and keep those speakers behind the screen in a baffle wall at middle height of the screen . and do them as x5 using five screen wide, no nothing do with front wide . 70mm todd-ao SDDS 8 five screen , that is what i mean . I'm ex projectionist UCI cinemas and warner bros .
if i was testing those speakers i know what classic Dolby Stereo 70mm to test them with . I can recall how a movie sounded like and felt like in THX 32 years ago and certainly even Sensurround , earthquake '75 aged 8 . scary sub bass .
I have never been to an THX cinema. Would be nice. That sounds like a great job. We watched Dr Strange 2 and there was no LFE. Disappointed.