HIS #22 | Street Photography | Leica M6 | Taipei | Kodak Tmax P3200 | Vision 3 500t

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

Комментарии • 163

  • @adamtitchener2864
    @adamtitchener2864 6 лет назад +15

    The best street photography channel on RUclips. Always incredible. The launderette photos is perfection. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @winfcad
    @winfcad 3 года назад

    You are one of the best in developing vision3 film stock that I have ever seen.

  • @bnf82
    @bnf82 6 лет назад +12

    The 3200 wasn't that bad, at least what was shown. But man, the colors of that 500t... amazing. At what iso did you shoot it in the end, 1600?

  • @paparuzzy77
    @paparuzzy77 5 лет назад +1

    Great work for all. Your 's Still photo & video edit are Awesome. .... Love it !!! 💕💕💕

  • @KrisKaos13
    @KrisKaos13 5 лет назад +1

    I love the black-and-white photos those were amazing

  • @teekay989
    @teekay989 6 лет назад +11

    The Vision 3 500t colors are great!

  • @renklo-fisketching8462
    @renklo-fisketching8462 3 года назад

    I really like your intros, the music choice and synchronization

  • @イケイビン
    @イケイビン 6 лет назад +1

    Finally!! The both of films are beautiful ~😍😍

  • @NoSomosAmigos
    @NoSomosAmigos 6 лет назад

    Both films. Nice video Robin.

  • @nicksucio
    @nicksucio 6 лет назад

    Tmax3200 you said shot at box speed, did you shoot at at 800 or push it to 3200? & what did you end up pushing up to on Kodak Vision?

  • @truncatei
    @truncatei 6 лет назад +1

    So sweet end👏

  • @alfredbass
    @alfredbass 5 лет назад +2

    You're like a invisible behind the camera! Ha! Its awesome! 😬

  • @LeeAchim84
    @LeeAchim84 6 лет назад +4

    To be honest... The grainy bw pictures look really interesting! But the vision3 pictures are just amazing.

  • @CamMead
    @CamMead 6 лет назад +1

    So awesome man, loved the colour film with that neon glow atmosphere, video has gone up a level with the slo mo and editing techniques.. seriously nice!!

  • @martinwilsonphoto
    @martinwilsonphoto 5 лет назад

    Some great work. Love that grain!

  • @Colombogringo96
    @Colombogringo96 6 лет назад +1

    I cannot get over the colors that the 500t produces! I haven't been able to get my hands on any but it's certainly at the top of the list of films I want to try. As always, amazing pictures, Robin and the editing was superb!!!!

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Juan! Hope you'll be able to try it out asap! ☺️👌

    • @Colombogringo96
      @Colombogringo96 6 лет назад

      I'll try to make it work with my broke college student budget hahaha :')

  • @edwassermann8368
    @edwassermann8368 6 лет назад +1

    nice video. probably not but did you use a filter for the 500t?

  • @juniovitorino
    @juniovitorino 6 лет назад +1

    In first place congratulations on other awesome and pleasant episode. Now I’ve to say that I definitely got myself impressed in how fast do you’re able to focus a rangefinder camera at night. I also have an M6 and I gave up on using it at night because of focus issues. Any tip is very welcome and again congratulations these two films are very beautiful.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Junio! Practice as often as possible and if you're shooting into a light source try to block out the light with your hand to get rid of the lens flare in the rangefinder. 👍

  • @ldbass62
    @ldbass62 4 года назад

    I really like the results you got with the Vision 3 500t. It is a great look!

  • @beatoperator
    @beatoperator 6 лет назад +1

    Like many other commenters I also think that BNW grain was a blast! Great stuff. Cant really tell which film looks "better", but the pic of the guy sitting waiting for his loundry (I think) was aweesomee. 5star pic.

  • @coreychen5644
    @coreychen5644 6 лет назад +1

    Hi Robin, I must say, your video is such a relaxing thing to enjoy. If I'm not mistaken, the vision 3 500t requires ECN-2 processing, and the cinestill 800 is the emulsionless (if you know what I mean haha) version of it right?? Just want to ask how do you actually process the 500t? and what are your thoughts on how its different from the cinestill 800? thank you!!

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Corey! Yes, the CineStill is lacking the remjet layer which makes it easier to have it processed in a lab. I have a video on how I process vision 3 film stocks. It's very simple and that's why I prefer vision 3 films. They are a lot cheaper and the results are nicer because you won't get these sometimes nasty halos that CineStill might give you. 👍

  • @dawn8106
    @dawn8106 5 лет назад +2

    I’m a Taiwanese, it was not until this moment I know that how beautiful my hometown is!

  • @qipeizhang7323
    @qipeizhang7323 6 лет назад +1

    Hello, could you kindly tell us how you travel/fly with film? Especially with the high sensitive iso3200 rolls?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      A video in that topic is already planned! ✌️

  • @FoxKoit
    @FoxKoit 6 лет назад +1

    Everything can not be perfect, but the last roll it was cool... I like it :) I hope you make more soon :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      😁 Thank you! No worries, more is about to come! 👌✌️

  • @zhouyang5036
    @zhouyang5036 6 лет назад +1

    Great video. I’m in Taiwan right now and this was super inspiring being a Leica shooter myself

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you! I really liked shooting in Taiwan, have to go back there one day! 😁👌

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam 6 лет назад +1

    That grain on itself was kinda art. Loved it, not for many rolls of film cause then it looses its magic. Not bad at all.
    The rest of the video was great, as usual, magic from the orient .
    Thanks for sharing (also love the frame change in the video where the screen turns around)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much! I'll shoot the tmax again but then with less grain for sure! 😁

  • @RickieBeubie
    @RickieBeubie 6 лет назад +1

    Man ! this made me so nostalgic about Taiwan and Taipei, this is my favorite country and a blast to photograph there :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      I had a blast there, definitely worth going back to Taiwan at some point. ☺️👍

  • @bulagasrafael9528
    @bulagasrafael9528 2 года назад

    Love all the photos! What was the ISO setting for Vision3 photos?

  • @DarrylCarey
    @DarrylCarey 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Robin, I must have just missed you in Taipei. I came from a cold autumn in NZ and wow the heat was crazy in Taipei and Taichung. Awesome video and photos as always :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you Darryl! When I was there the weather was almost perfect and not as crazy hot and sticky as it seems to be right now. 😁

    • @DarrylCarey
      @DarrylCarey 6 лет назад +1

      This was my 43rd time to Taiwan and May was a crazy hot month. Hope you enjoyed your time in Taiwan :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      😲 you're basically living there! Had a wonderful time and will probably go back again at one point.

  • @_Sisyphus
    @_Sisyphus 6 лет назад +1

    You have a keen eye. Very entertaining! Gut gemacht!

  • @BSF111
    @BSF111 6 лет назад +1

    *I actually love the grain, great shots and fantastic b-roll!*

  • @kevinpilz6057
    @kevinpilz6057 6 лет назад +1

    Great video, the transitions are so damn great!! Also thx for sharing that you messed up the developing of the TMAX Film. Sh*** happens :-) I have one question about the Kodak Vision 3- is Cinestill 800t some kind of the same film stock? Or did I mix something up?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Kevin! CineStill is based on Kodak Vision3 500T with the Remjet removed. Wait for the next episode. 😉

  • @VirtualGuth
    @VirtualGuth 5 лет назад +1

    Nice video. Did you rely on the built-in meter in the M6 for these shots?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  5 лет назад

      No meter was used. I'll publish a video talking specifically about that topic very soon!

  • @javier_canada
    @javier_canada 6 лет назад +1

    Amazing colors withe the Kodak Vision. Did you develop it at home as well?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Javier! Yes, developed at home. 👍

  • @bradmiller9993
    @bradmiller9993 6 лет назад +1

    I really like the context that the video gives to the stills. Very cool. What camera do you use for the video? Thanks!

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much Brad! I am using a GH5. The gear is listed in the video description if you are interested. 👍

  • @tempest01100
    @tempest01100 6 лет назад +1

    Another interesting video - thanks for posting. Which film do I prefer? As an old B/W shooter, I've always loved the grain given by TMAX so I guess I'm bias in saying that gets my vote.

  • @joshb1334
    @joshb1334 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, makes me miss Taiwan! The photo at 9:10 is especially moving!

  • @shunliyang9589
    @shunliyang9589 6 лет назад +1

    The video seems perfect!So does the color of vision3 ! While there is only a little light at night, is the focusing zone skill like setting the aperture at f4 or 5.6 still useful? Or you have to push the roll several stops?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you! I pushed it by two stops. There was no way to stop down the lens, all shots were taken wide open. ✌️

    • @shunliyang9589
      @shunliyang9589 6 лет назад +1

      the_real_sir_robin Really accurate focus in wide open!The photos are sharp and nice.

  • @MrBillboeing
    @MrBillboeing 6 лет назад +1

    Nice video as always. I liked the color film a lot. The grainy film was still pleasing for the eyes. What is your typical aperture during those shots? Beste Grüße aus Miami

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Dankeschön! ☺️ I shot all photos wide open at f/1. 7

  • @blaxton2
    @blaxton2 6 лет назад

    I’ve done that (with HC 110). It makes choosing between the two films difficult. I’ll only say that I like the pictures anyway, as always.

  • @alexcasaresOracleAZ
    @alexcasaresOracleAZ 6 лет назад +1

    Black & white was my favorite 👍📸👍

  • @bradmiller9993
    @bradmiller9993 6 лет назад

    Oh and I liked both film emulsions; I'm going to try the 500t myself

  • @fredrikwardhoff
    @fredrikwardhoff 5 лет назад

    Colour..... I love the look of that film..🤪

  • @mvooo
    @mvooo 6 лет назад +1

    Great video! But please, tell me where do you get 500T in europe!

  • @LucXL
    @LucXL 6 лет назад +1

    I liked both but I think the grain worked OK on some shots (the skateboard, the girl staring at her boyfriend with helmet) but much less on others (the guy sleeping on his load, the girl and dog on scooter). Excellent video, as always! Thank you Sir!

  • @magazine8731
    @magazine8731 5 лет назад

    Hi, robin. Did you take a picture without looking at the finder?

  • @groovesme
    @groovesme 6 лет назад

    Out of curiosity did you use a lens filter on the 500t to color balance or just adjusted it in post while scanning?
    I think I preferred the 500t. But certainly it varies shot by shot. Sometimes B&W just works better.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      No filter was used since the 500t is for this kind of lighting environment. A filter would also cut down too much light which would have an issue. 👌

  • @mateoguevara1153
    @mateoguevara1153 6 лет назад +1

    I almost always prefer color, so for me the 500t is easily the winner. Loved the colors in that laundromat shot

  • @1OnionHead1
    @1OnionHead1 6 лет назад +1

    Die Fotos mit dem Tungsten Film sind wirklich super. Hast du den selbst entwickelt? In 120 gibts den nur als Cinestill Version ohne Remjet oder?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Danke dir! Ja, entwickeln den selbst, Video dazu gibt's auch auf meinem Kanal. Den gibt es auch in 120, siehe nächstes Video. 😊

  • @northernrider780
    @northernrider780 6 лет назад

    I don't know how many will agree, but I kinda like the grain in some of the photos.
    I guess they don't always need to be super sharp to be nice.

  • @ZdenkaDarula
    @ZdenkaDarula 6 лет назад +1

    very interesting video to watch. I am strictly digital photographer never shot on film so that is why is very interesting for me to watch. Also never tried street photography which I really want to try so I looked at few videos like yours to get the feel of it. I've tried all kids of photography in 13 years I am doing this but I really don't know why I never came across to it... I guess you just need to sort of grow into that... thanks for sharing.. awesome video.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you! 👍 Give it a try, it's a lot of fun! 👌

  • @rasmuskokholm7044
    @rasmuskokholm7044 6 лет назад +1

    Great video, and great photos. Well composed and interesting. I don't mind the grain on the P3200 too much, but did you shoot at box speed? Likewise with the 500T, was it shot at box speed? It had so little grain and looks beautiful!

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Rasmus! My intention was to not push the tmax because it was my first roll with it and I wanted to see how it looks. The vision 3 was pushed by 2 stops. The key is to give it as much light as possible to avoid underexposure. When shot in 120 it's even better! 😁👌

    • @rasmuskokholm7044
      @rasmuskokholm7044 6 лет назад

      the_real_sir_robin Thank you for the anwser Robin. A quick follow up question for the 500T: Do you overexpose by to stops and develop normally, or do you overexpose and then compensate and push it in development too? :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Actually I shot all the photos at around 1/60 or sometimes even at 1/15 and pushed the film two stops in development.

  • @bagazheful
    @bagazheful 5 лет назад +1

    Streets are so full of light there

  • @ianhand5006
    @ianhand5006 Год назад

    Great video. Tschuss!

  • @Potentstylo
    @Potentstylo 6 лет назад +1

    Very nice edit. What was the lens focal lenght you used?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you! For the photos? I was shooting a 35mm lens on the M6. It's my go to lens! 👌

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny 6 лет назад +1

    I actually thought the grain of the p3200 was fine. The color film was very nice, this would be my night-time film combo. Cheers!

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Shawn! The 500t is so nice for night time shooting, highly recommended! 👌

  • @jaredmtennant
    @jaredmtennant 6 лет назад +1

    Fantastic shots!!

  • @paull3466
    @paull3466 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent video! Nicely edited! Can I ask, what lens were you using on the M6, please?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you Paul! 😊 I was using the Voigtländer 35mm Ultron.

    • @paull3466
      @paull3466 6 лет назад +1

      Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to reply :) I thought it looked like an Ultron. I've got a Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 in M mount but have been thinking of trading it in for an Ultron. The Skopar is so compact, but the Ultron is just a little faster...

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      I was thinking about adding the 35/2.5 to my kit. 😁 The size is perfect for traveling.

    • @paull3466
      @paull3466 6 лет назад

      I can definitely recommend the Color Skopar 35mm f2.5. It's a sharp, contrasty lens. I mostly shoot B&W and I think it renders wonderfully on B&W stocks. It's compact too: using it on my M6 or M4, I can easily fit my camera in a jacket pocket. Build quality is good as well. Some reviews complain about the aperture ring being too easy to adjust accidentally when focusing, but focusing with the tab, I've never had that problem.
      Here's a link to a portrait I shot with it, using Ilford HP5 pushed to ISO 800, on a recent documentary project: paul-a-j-lewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/ALBION.jpg (The image is compressed for viewing on my website, but it'll give you an idea as to the characteristics of the lens.)
      I sometimes crave something a little bit 'faster' for shooting in low light, but as a 'street' or landscape/travel lens, the Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 is pretty essential (imo) :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      Will probably get one or maybe a 28mm, not sure yet. 🤓

  • @marksuryaharja
    @marksuryaharja 6 лет назад

    What lens did you use on your leica m6?

  • @AlexScene
    @AlexScene 6 лет назад +1

    I hope you got to go down south to Kaohsiung! I was amazed by Kaohsiung. The people are the best.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks for the recommendation Alex. Unfortunately, I am not in Taiwan anymore but maybe next time! ☺️

  • @VanDan
    @VanDan 6 лет назад

    8:53 love the color panel !

  • @ninniciotta1960
    @ninniciotta1960 6 лет назад +1

    Congratulation for your video and shots. Very nice!!!

  • @Richardsumilang
    @Richardsumilang 5 лет назад

    Definitely preferred Vision 3. Btw, you can get Tri-X 400 and push to 3200 with less grain they say

  • @Swade99
    @Swade99 6 лет назад +2

    Love your videos, Robin. Always have. They're a big reason to do with why I now love to shoot street. BUT, I have to say, I'm not a fan of the shot of the guy sleeping on the street. If it was a doco on rough sleepers and it treated such people with dignity, telling their story, then OK. It felt like a bit of a cheap shot here. On a brighter note, that colour film is gorgeous and gets my vote.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +3

      Thank you Steven! Usually that wouldn't be a subject I am after. However, when shooting for RUclips there are a certain time constraints and I can't be too selective to finish the roll. In this case it was about the reflection and less about the guy.

  • @olympus2OM
    @olympus2OM 3 года назад

    Nice shots.

  • @puffseed
    @puffseed 6 лет назад +1

    Hi, welcome to Taiwan. I love your photo. Hope you can shoot more in Taiwan. 👍🏻

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you! Unfortunately, I am not in Taiwan anymore but I had a great time. More videos from Taiwan are coming! ✌️

  • @commandermegatron5469
    @commandermegatron5469 6 лет назад

    hey sir robin,hope someday you will come to China Chendu and have some wonderful shoot,maybe i can be a video guy in your China trip!

  • @checkpointlab
    @checkpointlab 6 лет назад +2

    Like the color film better, the grain was indeed a little high. Nice work!

  • @myoung48281
    @myoung48281 6 лет назад

    I like the grain in the BW shots and prefer them to the color shots by far. The color was distracting and added nothing to the images. I used HC110 also, it's nice because it doesn't go bad in the container, last years but switched to Acufine .

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Color or not is very subjectiv and everyone will have a different opinion. Will use HC110 for a while now to get a better feel for the results. 👍

  • @sebastianfrank2875
    @sebastianfrank2875 6 лет назад

    How did you push and process the 500t?

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Simply by letting it longer in the developer. Instead of 3:15 I let the film sit in there for 5 minutes.

  • @MadManchris
    @MadManchris 6 лет назад

    Dude man! These edits keep getting better! Too bad about the BW, let's just pretend that was an artistic choice to make it more vintage! The 500t looks dope!

  • @DonFather
    @DonFather 6 лет назад +3

    The grain wasn't bad at all, but that 500t was magical. Nicely done.

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you! Wait for the next episode! 😉

    • @DonFather
      @DonFather 6 лет назад

      How did you meter for the 500t? Just the M6 in camera meter? Meter for shadows? Thx.

  • @ALVINIUM1
    @ALVINIUM1 6 лет назад +1

    Niiiice!

  • @olympus2OM
    @olympus2OM 3 года назад

    Nice music too.

  • @joehsu6975
    @joehsu6975 6 лет назад +1

    P3200, like the Ilford Delta 3200, they are all the same type that been officially push to 3200, original asa@800, better performance at asa400 tho... but waste of an ultimately high speed film

  • @louisbiergans2479
    @louisbiergans2479 6 лет назад +1

    Hey:)
    Habe vor ca. 1-2 Jahren eine M6 günstig von einem Bekannten bekommen. Habe mir die eigentlich nur gekauft weil es Leica war.(Hört sich sicherlich komisch an, war aber echt so😁) Da ich davor wirklich gar keine Ahnung hatte von Fotografie (digital/analog), bin ich zum Rossmann gelaufen und habe mir dort den Kodak Process C-41 Film gekauft:) war denke ich mal echt günstig im Vergleich zu anderen Filmen deswegen habe bisher immer mit dem Fotografiert:) doch jedes mal wenn ich deine Videos schaue sehe ich das es zwischen Filmen so extreme Unterschiede gibt. Das hätte ich am Anfang nie gedacht:) deswegen bin ich mal in ein Fotogeschäft in der nähe gegangen und habe mir mal einen anderen Film gekauft. Jedoch hatte der Laden nur einen zur Auswahl und der war auch nicht wirklich anders als der vom Rossmann, außer dass er mehre als das doppelte teurer war... ich wollte mal fragen wie du die Filme besorgst? Ob du die übers Internet bestellst und wenn ja könntest du mir eine Seite empfehlen? Wäre nett, da ich bei Amazon nicht fündig werde:)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Hallo Louis! Kann dir z.B. Macodirect oder Fotoimpex empfehlen! Viel Spaß beim Probieren von neuen Filmen! 😊

  • @francisbombus3949
    @francisbombus3949 6 лет назад +1

    Sehr, sehr cooles Video! Kanal direkt abonniert.

  • @olympus2OM
    @olympus2OM 3 года назад

    The Leica M6 is the best.

  • @tesshu2000
    @tesshu2000 6 лет назад +1

    Einfach Grossartig ! Ps: Vision 3.

  • @TheBenchapman
    @TheBenchapman 6 лет назад +1

    Colour colour colour

  • @acidsnow5915
    @acidsnow5915 6 лет назад +1

    Again a great video i loved watching. Great shots with the m6 :( and those transitions! Stellar!

  • @nicksucio
    @nicksucio 6 лет назад +1

    10:28 would have been a good shot :)

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Wasn't shooting anymore, but hey it's on video. 🤗

  • @zhiji2149
    @zhiji2149 6 лет назад +1

    it's always hard to focus my Leica in night street

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад +1

      It's easier during daytime but when you practice a lot you can get good at it eventually! 😊

    • @zhiji2149
      @zhiji2149 6 лет назад +1

      the_real_sir_robin yea it's always a pleasure!

  • @sebvz89
    @sebvz89 5 лет назад

    i wonder how do you take that pictures without permission. Sorry for my english

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  5 лет назад

      Why would I need a permission? It's a stupid mindset that a lot of people have these days that need a permission for almost everything. Life is complicated enough, why would you want to make it even more difficult? 😉

  • @Edmundttw
    @Edmundttw 6 лет назад +1

    welcome to Taiwan

  • @davidlewis1787
    @davidlewis1787 4 года назад

    No more wobbly loop based jazz on film photography channels...it’s infuriating!

  • @rogerauclair1670
    @rogerauclair1670 3 года назад

    Very nice pictures but some of the music was not so good.

  • @rjw_inc9477
    @rjw_inc9477 6 лет назад +1

    Nice clip, shame about the Tmax. Did you end up pushing the Vision 3 two stops, if so what did you add on in developing time?
    Here are some photos I did over May to music, hope you enjoy.
    ruclips.net/video/oximZoqe5Zw/видео.html

    • @therealsirrobin
      @therealsirrobin  6 лет назад

      Thank you Martin! I let the film 5 minutes in the developer instead of 3:15 but the developer was already a little depleted. Will check out your link later! 👌

  • @utschWU
    @utschWU 5 лет назад +1

    Nimm den TMax bei 800-1600 mit dem Pyro510 ;)
    bG Udo