Spider-Man Finally Quits
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Spider-Man faces off against the famous foes of Spider-Man 3, Venom (eminem) and Sandman (not eminem). Will he be able to defeat them? Or will he, like, just not be up for it anymore. Idk I'd get kinda annoyed at a certain point bro.
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Even in a skit, Solid JJ still agrees that sandman’s forgiveness was a beautiful scene.
Literally everything about sandman in this movie was amazing, & that's objective fact. Spiderman 3 was all over the place, sure, but that wasn't Raimi's fault. That was Sony's for trying to force in Venom.
This is incredibly evident by the fact that sandman is written SO much better, because HE was supposed to be the focus of the 3rd movie. Every sandman scene just leaves me in awe. Such a beautifully tragic way to reinvent his character.
@@CaptainCFalconvenom was perfect. Deal with it
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii You can enjoy something while admitting it is poorly executed on an objective level.
Venom has never received a good live-action characterization, let alone perfect.
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii I like Raimi's Venom too, but it's in no way an accurate adaption, it's perfectly fine to have your opinions, just don't go around rage baiting.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Fun fact, the word venom is never said in that entire movie.
"I'm gonna turn into sand now goodbyeee"
That gentle "goodbye" made it awesome
....... alright things aside that was beautiful
@@shattereddiamond1030
NO! YOU DON'T GET IT, _YOU_ DID THIS!
*_YOU'RE_** THE VILLAIN!*
@@manoluigisupershow1411dude we were photographers at the same place let me tell you our salary this is not an adequate reaction
@@kamenrideruniter4503
I used to be a normal guy before all this
You turned me into a monster
"Alright things aside that was beautiful." and "Holy shit was that James Franco?" are just two just perfect lines that show why solidjj is hilarious.
3:01 that part killed me XD
And James Franco
This feels like a smiling friends episode
I mean with how much the writers hate him, it was inevitable.
2:31 i like the callback to the green goblin video where he just says "i havent thought that far" after peter joins him and asks what theyre gonna do lol
1:45 “you deserve to pay” was so deadpan 😭
I believe Venom made a point to not harm civilians actually, in the comics of course. If I remember right, it was when Spidey saved someone that he realized that he may have been wrong.
Please keep the carnage for... well Carnage.
Venom in the comics is more of an antihero, especially these days
Peter Parker: The colored Spider-Man is evil
Miles Morales: 😱
The funniest part is that if the movie had come out 6 months later Eddie's motives might have made a lot more sense.
Your Toby Maguire voice saying "knock his shit out" made me spit up my Arizona ice tea
It could've been a lot worse for eddie. I mean peter makes cracks about his razor sharp teeth, but could you imagine if the symbiote just like swallowed eddie whole? Like not even bond to him, just like consume all of his flesh and organs and stuff and there would be nothing left of eddie except his skeleton and the symbiote's just using eddie's remains as a vehicle for it's revenge. That would be messed up if that happened.
“Pretty much Spider-Man 3 in a nutshell”
This is some of the best work on the channel.
An entire movie deconstructed perfectly in under a minute, the rest is bonus!
1:02 alright things aside, that was beautiful.
Venom made him crash out, start tweaking, go bonkers, etc.
“You obviously feel much more strongly about this than I do.”
-Spider-Man, probably.
2006: finally we are getting Venom in a movie!
2024: please stop putting Venom in movies
back then it was surreal to see someone want other person dead over them having a argument and now its the usual twitter user experience
The ending slayed me
To be fair he revealed that he had faked a picture and that is a career ender for a photographer. Then again he could have just found a new job
Dude these videos have no right being so funny
Meanwhile in the SSU:
“…holy shit, V.”
*”Eddie, always remember, no matter how bad our situation is, neither of us is as big a loser as THAT ASSHOLE!”*
Sandman randomly peacing out like that was so fuckin funny.
it was the evil spiderman u know... the black one...
Spider-Man learned his lesson from that one time with his Spider Sense. 💀
The dialogue is just great. 😄👌
The best villains are sometimes the most blunt ones.
Like Rhino or Venom.
Just want to piss of people.
Venom: "You know how hard it is to get a job these days?"
Spidey: "Dude, you can literally turn yourself black. That's like 10 points up in this leftist shithole city."
I don't think blackface will get you hired ANYWHERE you would want to work.
Reported
I like that this Peter's voice is literally just JJ's Donatello voice.
Course in reality Venom is a jaded EX who can't get over their first love...
Not sure if that actually improves things or not!
EBJ/Venom: You did this to us, getting us fired for actual journalism fraud and breaking up with the symbiote that made you aggressive and shit.
Peter: How is any of that bad? “Oh, no, I have integrity and don’t want like roid rage.”
Venom: Yeah, the only reason I’m so mad was because Eddy was mad.
Eddy: Am I the asshole?
This video is why some adaptations of Spider-Man make Eddie and Peter close friends so that their beef goes beyond “you got me fired.”
i dont like how sandman says goodbye xD W, wahat are you?! fairy mother!!
At least in the two cartoon series they showed eddies life slowly unraveling bit by bit until he had almost nothing left (mostly due to his own actions but still) so you get how desperate and angry he was when he met the symbiote.
This version of Eddie… deliberately written to be petty and self entitled.
“I just got fired from my job because someone ratted out my bad ethics, well I better go wish bad fortune on that person and hope that I will get some alien goo to give me powers to kill him” yes it was definitely Parker’s fault
Peter also took away Gwen from him. Took his job, his camera and his girl. So he kidnapped Mary Jane as he's gonna take away something from him to.
When even Sam Raimi can't save a film you know it's really, really bad.
one of the best vids in months I fucking loved it! xD
edit: not that the others were bad, this one was just incredible xD
The fourth wall breaks never fail to amuse
Dude, you can’t just upload the entire Spider-Man 3 movie on RUclips.
Am I the only one who was partially expecting the symbiote to suddenly chime in? Like it would try to convince Eddie that what he was doing is justified while Peter just disects his motivation and all that, or it would just make references to being a bitter ex.
Ahh so this is why we didn’t get a Sam Raimi Spider-Man 4
Venom sound like Kaiba.
"....normal stuff..."😂😂😂
To be fair Peter did expose him for his fake photos which honestly ruined his professional career as a journalist/photographer and stole his girl i can see why hed want to kill him
This incarnation of Eddie Brock is more similar to Cletus Kasady/Carnage than the original version of Venom, aesthetically and personality-wise; such as being a hardly redeemable sadist, referring to himself in single pronouns due to having bonded completely with the symbiote, and being lean instead of muscular.
Not to mention the fact they were both very bad people even before getting their respected symbiotes (albeit that Cletus was a far worse person then Eddie due to being a serial killer).
Since the two are comparable to each other that way, it led fans (specially the ones who take into account Robbie's mention of Eddie in the first film as part of their personal canon) to speculate that the Eddie mentioned in the first film is dead, and that the "Eddie Brock" who appears in the third film is actually Cletus Kassidy, who killed the real Eddie and took on his identity to possibly hide himself from the rest of the authorities, who were, despite being neither mentioned nor shown on-screen, heavily implied to be searching for the real Eddie's body and for evidence of any other crimes the self-proclaimed “freelance photographer” committed, that were also theorized to be so terrifying in a unthinkable way, the authorities refused to inform the public of said crimes, since they’ll only cause mass panic.
James Franco reporting for his cameo & death duty!
DTOP SPYING ON ME, INTERNET!
"Hey, I'm here because I saw a meme video four months ago."
I have no idea what I was referencing here.
ah, since maguire quits, then next is garfield's spider-man?
imagine your opp being Eric Foreman 🤣
Well, at least look at the bright side, it's not One More Day
MJ screams off-screen in lack of a voice actress
"The uh...Colored one" 🤣
If it was now Brock would have a point. Getting a new job would be hell, every job asking for new hires and not hiring anybody.
his spider man vids are the best
Eddie is right, the job market is really tough these days
Bad guy praying for a good thing😄👍
Exsisted....but i totally thought the Dave Franco fail was hilarious as $###.
And in later news, sony planning another reboot of Spider-Man....yes i screamed F### in church.
Sandman was real for that.
Yeah, Venom's just kind of a jealous ho, and _Spider-Man 3_ made Eddie's reasons their pettiest yet even before the symbiote uses him as a rebound to go after the ex who had just scorned it.
I should've bought that Biden Gamer Supp before the agencies took it down.
Gonna turn into sand now, bye
Why does Spider-Man kinda sound like Joker?
0:44
Bro didn’t have anything to say an just
Nuh uh
To be fair, he prayed for spiderman to die and then a fuckin' goop came outta the statue and gave him superpowers. Its like you praying for someone to die and the cross opens up to reveal a fucking sword, its divine will at that point.
Plus this version of venom unequivocally messes with your head and makes you more aggressive, Doctor Connors discovers as such while Peter is in his weird emo dork phase. So give aggression enhancing superpowers to a guy so desperate and petty that he is praying to God for a guy he dislikes to die. This version of Eddie Brock is NOT a good person, or even a very smart one, but he was basically doomed as soon as venom got him.
Explain that atheists!
@@strongerthanever2039easy. He rolled well on his RNG. 😂
@@timothycarney9652Thats whats all about,venom is the worst peter could ever be,an egoistical version that only uses its power for the most selfish and petty reasons,someone with no bounderies,just someone out right bad,the anti spiderman,you get it
@@usuario15965Spider Man 3 understood how to do Brock properly in a way these shams of a Venom film series never had. Stan Lee himself said he was the "shadow of Spider Man; all the power and even more, with none of the responsibility".
There is no Joke here.
This is just the plot of Spider-Man 3.
In a nutshell
You'll get your joke when you fix this damn door!!!
You say this as if the plot of _Spider-Man 3_ isn't a joke already, especially given Raimi's dislike of Venom but being forced to use him anyway by execs making the movie what it was.
But where is MJ feeling that Peter doesn't give her attention? Or Harry's amnesia and evil plots? Or the other 13 subplots?
@@HMNCLunar in the Not Important zone
People forget the symbiote was pissed too. Peter broke up with him without even telling him why.
Pretty sure it was in fact told why. That wasn't this symbiotes issue, this one is the raimi symbiote, it slowly kills weaker hosts(body isn't strong enough to resist), and without a strong host it will eventually die. This one also didn't adapt to peters bad thoughts like most versions of venom, it's just extremely aggressive.
Note: the weak host thing is also why his teeth are like that, it was literally physically changing him and not molding itself around him. Honestly don't blame peter for leaving this venom to die.
"All I wanted was to help you. I only wanted to help!"
@@almessasorrow4950 that's a lot of bullshit, that's not how symbiontes work
It was too clingy, and a bad influence 🤣🤣🤣
He really did have *MANY* choices to not become a villain. Eddie did that to himself 😂
Hahaha, and now HE NOT HAS A GIRLFRIEND BUT A VENONFRIEND...AND A VENONHORSE
In defence of Eddie, Peter had the Daily Bugle retract the paper with the fake Spiderman images and the Daily Bugle issued a paper with an apology for Spiderman AND the name/identity and picture of Eddie Brock on the front page, listing Eddie as the "faker." So Eddie Brock's reputation was ruined by Peter asking the Daily Bugle to... admit that Eddie Brock lied. Yeah, it's still Eddie's fault for ruining his own reputation but he still blames Peter for... asking the Daily Bugle to be honest.
Yeah, I don't know where I was going with this comment.
He also blamed Peter for stealing Gwen away. Dude, it was one coffee date and she was never yours to begin with. Get over it and find someone else.
@CyanRooper basically that Eddie was a scumbag from start to finish and deserved no sympathy.
The other Raimi villains had something.
Norman was pressured to rush a super soldier serum to avoid losing a military contract and his board members went behind his back and tried to sell his company. Adding the split personality escalated things.
Otto's attempt at science ended badly and his robot arms manipulated him.
Marko was desperate to save his dying daughter.
Eddie was just butthurt over being called out.
@@hellstrom4209This is why this is the best adaption of Eddie. Thats who hes supposed to be. Stan Lee called him "the power of Spider Man with none of the responsibility". Eddie literally graped Mary Jane in the comics which is why she demanded Peter to get rid of the cloth Black Suit because of the trauma from that.
Eddie was a scumbag, it took him having to fight a serial killer, having what he did to MJ completely retconned, and getting cancer to even start his redemption arc. Eddie being uwu nice boi in the Venom films is entirely unearned.
Idk if professional victim is the right word for Eddie here but it perfectly encapsulates who he is and why giving him the symbiote is such a recipe for disaster in terms of the threat it makes him.
In the comics after Peter got him fired, Eddie lost his fiance and his apartment, which... still isn't worth KILLING over, but when a bitter alien symbiote gets their hands on you....
an apartment, in New York City?
@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber With the $200,000 a month he must have saved in rent he really should have thanked Pete.
And to be fair,there are A LOT of characters with worse reasons to become supervillains
Peter didn't even get him fired on purpose. Eddie accidentally interviewed the wrong guy posing as Sin Eater and he published it before the real guy got caught by Peter.
And he found out he had cancer. But it was the symbiote making him look like he had cancer so he wouldn't throw it away.
Spider-Man beats up Black Spider-Man!
-JJJ
Miles: 😳
@@gazem_3211 Canon Event.
-Miguel O'Hara
@@justinn8541akaDrPokemon🤣
THAT'S racist!!!🤣
Peter: "The other colored one.."
Eddie: "The black one?
🤣
Lmao 😂😂😅
The pink one 🥴
@@Protanly We don't talk about the pink one 😟
Spider of color
Ultra senti, Ultra senti, Supaidāman
I love how SolidJJ has kept the same voice for Spidey no matter the context
And how it's James Stewart.
A little thing called "consistency"
There are other voices for Spiderman for different versions.
His version of Spider-Man exist somewhere in the spiderverse for me.
@@HitoshuratdnThe only one I know of was from the 90s Spider-Man parody where Peter gaslights the Sinister Six into believing Chameleon is the real webslinger.
Don’t blame Peter, Venom was a better girlfriend than Mary Jane ever was.
Silk is still best girl for Peter.
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire no
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFireNo, dude. They're only in it from the spider hormones. They're more like family than anything.
Yes @@skipS899
charlie cooper is the best, shes legit the only one who tried to expose that spiderman is doc ock, aside from cap of course but he quickly give up
While Topher Grace was a big comic book fan and had read the first Venom stories as a boy, he found the suit he had to wear as Venom extremely unpleasant. It took an hour to put on (and four hours to apply the prosthetics), and it had to be constantly smeared with goo to give it a liquid organic feel. Grace also had to wear fangs, which bruised his gums.
While being in the Venom costume, Topher Grace didn't drink any water during his breaks because he couldn't use the bathroom with his costume on, making the experience even more unplesant.
did he at least get paid well?
@@nicholas-dv1mg probably not
Kinda sad that everyone hated him
@@Deathmare235yep, even while his venom is still more comic accurate than Tom Hardy’s MCU-ified version. Really sad.
@@DarthVader0001 Tom hardy’s venom looks good, I’m gonna watch the first film and while I heard the film sucks I heard that venom was pretty good and I guess it’s more comic accurate now since venom is an anti hero
"Dude, let me tell you, our salary is not - this is not an adequate reaction" 😂😂😂
I mean, if the choice was to find a different job or wear an alien bio-suit that gave you powers, which would YOU choose?
I feel like the powers given to you by the alien power suit would help you get a new job.
Well lets be fair, Eddie didn't CHOOSE to wear the suit, it desperately grabbed onto him after spiderman ripped it off, and THIS version of the symbiote definitely messes with your head. Toby Spiderman's "evil" is very dorky, but it is scientifically proven to make you more aggressive- so add that to a guy that was as desperate and petty as this version of eddie brock, him trying to kill spiderman makes total sense. Its not a great plan, but it is certainly one that that person in that situation would make.
@lnsflare1 I mean yeah, security detail would be a pretty easy trade to pick up when you're bulletproof.
Naw! I've read the What if-?s!
I don't think him having the suit is the problem here. It more of... You know... The things he did with those powers instead of finding a new job. That was the real choice here.
It was originally planned for the Symbiote to reveal Eddie's smoking skeleton when Peter separated them, meaning that the Symbiote drained it's host's life (similar to it's What If... Brave New World incarnation); Venom was also going to talk and say the line, "Never wound what you can't kill", before trying to merge with Peter again. Spider-Man would put an end to the Symbiote by repeatedly striking the steel pipes caging the Symbiote until it's form dissipated entirely. This was reshot because the test audience deemed it too dark for younger viewers, but was kept in the novelization.
The skeleton props were also made, with Eddie's skull in particular having a resemblance to Venom's face.
When Eddie jumps towards the Symbiote during their deaths in the explosion, for a few frames, his skeleton briefly appears around the same time the ball of nuclear energy is released after being pulled in. This is the only part that still remains of the original scene.
>hires horror movie director to direct movie
>gets surprised when horror movie director wants to add horrifying scene in a movie
@@CyanRooper and it’s even weirder because Raimi already has scary scenes in these films, like the Doc Ock hospital massacre. Why not let him leave things a bit more frightening? It’s a creepy mind altering goo alien, play with it a bit
In the video game Venom falls from the building and gets impaled by metal rods. I always thought that scene was horrific as a kid and I wondered why the game differed from the movie.
didnt the first movie had green goblin blowing up ppl into skeletons???
Dang test audiences, that would have been awesome!
Snapped like batmans back
Gwen Stacy reference would have been too obvious?
@@mas8705 Well, he was trying to make a reference to a previous SolidJJ video about Bane repeatedly breaking Batman's back so I think we can let this one slide (like how Peter Parker's marriage slid into the freaking gutter after Mary Jane met Paul).
@@mas8705 dunno what you mean on that
@@lololordjrThe famous scene where Gwen Stacy when is throw off a bridge by Green Goblin, Spider-Man accidentally snaps her neck trying to save her and so she dies anyway.
@@lololordjr In the Amazing Spider-Man 2 Spiderman tries to save Gwen Stacy from falling to her death but he fails to catch her in time and she hits the ground hard breaking her neck and back.
I do appreciate Sandman being entirely reasonable about his revenge.
1:02 Love how Peter just takes a moment to appreciate the beauty of Forgiveness
Goodbyeeeeeee…
I like when goblin said “it’s goblin time” and bully Maguire told him “how bout you start goblin deez nuts”
Truly a moment of all time
cant wait for the '' uhm yeah no. that didnt happen.''
@@EvangerLarsenBut it did, wtfdym?
Dead meme
@@EvangerLarsen Well, you ruined it. I hope you are pleased with yourself.
1:50 "I've invested so much time into this I can't just turn back now!" One of the worst feelings in real life situations.
That's known as the sunk cost fallacy, and because it feels so bad is often used to get people to continue doing things they rather wouldn't just so they can justify all the time and effort they've already invested. TV series and live service video games use this tactic to keep people watching, or playing even after the show or game is no longer any good, and people end up continuing just because they've already put a bunch of time into it.
@@NRSGuardian Makes sense. I'm currently trapped into something similar but what's worse is it's a passion project/hobby from 2012 that began with a grudge but after my significant finally told me she genuinely doesn't care anymore about our conflict I'm left with hundreds if not a couple thousand dollars at this point spent on something built on a foundation of artistic glory throughout various types of media and genres all to prove a point to her.
@@StyleshStormWHAT POINT WERE YOU TRYING TO PROVE?
@@legoverse1412Yeah this has a backstory I need to hear lol
Solid jj never fails to rip my limb apart one by one as I scream in excrutiating pain and agony meanwhile my consciousness slowly fades away
Nah fr
kinky
Stupid unfunny nonsensical meme
Sounds like your blood sugar is low
Low iron huh
Spiderman has every right to snap
(Only ogs will remember when this was named “Spiderman finally snaps”)
Solid JJ has finally voiced Venom, I can rest now
That wasn't Venom that was Forman.
0:59 Tbh even in meme form, that scene still gets me.
Peter: "You know, I might've gotten you fired, but you have this cool new alien suit that gives you superpowers because of me, right? So, we're even, ya know? Like, just go rob banks in a city without a superhero, like go to Austin or something, and just like, take it easy. If you look at it that way, I've just given you an early retirement! When life gives you lemons, ya know?"
"I'm going to turn into sand now, goodbyeeeee" he's literally me fr fr
Unlike most versions of the character, who refer to themselves as "we" (i.e. both Brock and the symbiote), this version refers to himself as "I", implying that Brock is in total control of the symbiote and being evil of his own free will (as he even claims he enjoys being evil), though the symbiote did allowed Brock to do so after discovering within him the same negative personality traits that it brought out of Peter while the latter was under its influence.
He does say "we" in the GBA version of the game adaptation, however.
To prepare for his role as Venom, Topher Grace worked out for six months, gaining 24 pounds of muscle. He based his performance on alcoholics and drug addicts.
Actually, the original ending of the movie would've revealed that Eddie was dead basically from the moment that the symbiote got onto him at the church, and was merely puppeting his hollowed-out corpse. When Spidey tries to kill the symbiote by stabbing it with a metal rod, the symbiote would then reveal Eddie's fucked up and deformed skeleton.
This was changed somewhat late into production because test audiences didn't like it, so I imagine the fact that Eddie said "I" instead of "we" was a holdover from the original ending. In that case, that meant that this Venom using "I" was going to be the hint that _something was wrong._
@@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733Welp now the "I" speech is way darker than i thought it would be lmao
@@kiernanhowell-mackinley1733Tbh that's effectively disturbing and horrifying, but I prefer Eddie showing what Peter could be if he had the Power but no Responsibility instead of just being a flesh puppet. Also it's not consistent with stuff like framing Spider-man.
@@LordVader1094 It is if you consider the symbiote has a grudge against him, too. He dumped it.
Eddie: "God, please kill Peter Parker. He easily exposed me as a fraud after I framed Spider-Man. He also went out with this girl I got coffee with this one time. He deserves death, God! Please!"
TOAA: "Stop it. Get some help."
0:18 MATPAT??!! It's all coming together now, he's hidden his true self from us for far too long....
Venom was originally not planned to be in the movie as Sam Raimi wasn't initially a fan of the character, stating the character "lacked humanity" in comparison to the previous villains. Instead, he planned to have Vulture as the main villain of the story. However, he was pushed by Avi Arad to replace him with Venom, as he felt that the series was relying too much on Raimi's personal favorites instead of the villains that the fans like.
That being said, fans disliked this iteration of Venom, particularly because Brock does not become Venom until towards the end.
In other earlier scripts of the film, the Lizard and Electro were planned to be the antagonists, rather than Venom and the Sandman. The Lizard would later appear in The Amazing Spider-Man movie while Electro appeared in the sequel. Vulture also appeared as the main antagonist of the first Spider-Man movie from the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Misunderstanding of Venom aside. Having him out was the right call. There were too many antagonists in the film. Sandman, the falling out with Harry and then Venom. Plot was all over the place.
@THENemesisXX99 why would you out venom? One of the most brutal Spider-Man Villain ever needs to be in Spider-Man 3. If anything remove, sandman or Harry. Venom was perfect
@@THENemesisXX99why would you out venom? One of the most brutal Spider-Man Villain ever needs to be in Spider-Man 3. If anything remove, sandman or Harry. Venom was perfect
I mean obviously he lacked Humanity as Venom is a sentient goo like alien that feeds on others to survive. But lacking Humanity is not really a good reason to cut someone out as there can be evil for the sake of being evil as you don't always need villains that can be sympathized with. Just look at Skeletor from He-Man he is a fan favorite and his evil for the sake of being evil and even The Joker from DC comics is just evil for the sake of being evil there is no Humanity which is fine, but how they did Venom in the movie is just plain wrong.
Venom is one of those things where to introduce him in the first half you have to set up then at the 2nd half either don't show him and wait for the next movie for him OR be only about Venom as again he is one of those things in movies you have to set up for
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii I think the story that was told with Sandman was much better than what they came up with for Venom. Honestly I'm tired of the symbiote arc being contained to one movie or game. Peter should spend a little more time using the suit. Having an actual arc and then you can contain a big movie for Venom's debut. Venom deserves better is what I'm getting at.
Spiderman 3 is the only movie I wanna see the actual Director's vision. No Venom, just Spidey and Sandman's dramatic life.
So you don't like venom?
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii No, originally Sam Raimi wanted the movie to only have Sandman, saving Venom for another thing or perhaps not using him at all. But the popularity of Venom was such that executives forced him to include the character in the film regardless. As such, the movie is often criticized for having a very dense plot and underutilizing Sandman.
@alexrexaros9837 I don't see how it's bad thing, considering people got what they wanted. 20 yrs later no Spider-Man vs venom was made
@@Iiiiiiiii69iiiiiiiiii I didn't say I thought personally the movie was bad. I just wanted to see what Raimi wanted to do with Sandman only.
@@alexrexaros9837 and we wouldn't get venom forever
Spider-Man was much more prone to snapping like this in the earlier comics, love when he has a backbone
He wouldn't really snap, he just got into back and forths with Flash and seethed about how easy it would be to knock Flash's block off.
@@morgantodd3748basically he just acted like an angsty teenager in the earlier comics
The Black Suit never changed Peter, it just brought his darkest desires to the surface.
The way the PS5 game portrays it was perfect to me. You're hearing "Peter's" intrusive thoughts; but really the symbiote is speaking, and adapting itself.
One thing that people don't understand is that the symbiote itself wanted to be a "hero," it wanted to be a better Spider Man. :/
@XXMatt0040XX Actually, the black suit in the comics never actually brought up anything he was acting normal
@@XXMatt0040XX I like the Spider-Man 3 iteration way more.
Venom is merely a parasite who doesn't have his own intentions and is therefore not a real character. He merely amplifies his hosts charactersitics overall.
Peter in Spider-man 3 is not your ideal goody two shoes. He lets his fame and power go to his head and kisses another girl in front of his classmate. So when he gets the symbiote he just becomes more of an overall jerk.
In the video game venom has his own intentions and plans. He bends the hosts will and minds and sets them to his own intentions. However this clears our boy Peter of any wrongdoings since it clearly was not him.
Peter: "Y'know, you keep saying I got you fired. What, uh… what were you fired for, exactly?"
Eddie: "… I, um… I doctored one of your photos to make you look like a criminal."
Peter: "Yeah. You see why I'd take issue with that?"
If there's anything i like about Spider-Man 3, it's showing how fucking pathetic Eddie was when he first got his boyfrien- i mean the symbiote
He was pathetic the entire movie. Like, no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Oh yeah, that’s the point. Eddie is a complete sleaze with like no good traits; no self-awareness, intellect or remorse. This guy wanted to frame Spider-Man for robbing a bank so he could get the Bugle job before Peter and thought it would be a brilliant idea to edit one of Peter’s own photographs. He’s a pathetic man who would literally rather be blown up than be separated from the symbiote because it’s the only thing that made his life meaningful.
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@@HMNCLunar he was fun to watch. Like Dork vs. Dork.
Love that you touched on the ‘going to church to ask god to kill someone he didn’t like’ thing. That was always a weird change since… OG Eddie was at that church asking forgiveness the night he got the Symbiote. *Because he was going to kill himself.*
Studios really like ballsing up Venom’s backstory, even the closest one they pulled was way off the mark.