Time stamps for the three arguments for the immortality of the soul: 1. The Cyclical Argument: 34:58-42:05 2. The Recollection Argument: 42:06-54:48 3. The Affinity Argument: 57:47-1:15:01
1:17:47-1:21:10-The objection of Simmias “The Attunement Argument” 1:21:40-The objection of Cebes 1:34:30- Socrates’ refutation of Simmias’ “Attunement Argument” 1:44:40-Socrates’ Refutation of Cebes’ objection
I genuinely appreciate you having these videos, I struggle a lot with looking at or reading a screen for long periods of time but being able to listen to it makes my life so much easier and I can’t say home much this helps me
Really happy to hear that it has helped you. I believe that this is the best way to take in a dialogue, with the text and audio together. Be sure to check out the other Platonic Dialogues. 🙏
Lewis Kirk Absolutely! I’ve been working my way through the dialogues for my Philosophy 210 class and I can’t say enough how much each of these have helped me
Thanks so much, this recording is a god send! Its also nice that the recording is the exact same translation as in the complete works of plato so i can read along.
Hearing this with an Orthodox Christian perspective is really interesting! “The foreigners are many as well” and he says to seek someone who can charm away the fear of death among them. He also speaks of the mystics who teach that life is a preparation for death, which is what our own Orthodox monks teach. Plato also says that joy in the afterlife will be a result of seeking Wisdom, which for us is the person of Christ who fulfills the proverbs about Wisdom being contrasted with the seductress of worldly pleasures that leads to hell. I don’t interpret this in any perennialist, way but I think Plato had glimpses of what was really true Edit: Plato/Socrates
its more interesting to see the similarity's in what plato wrote and what would later be beliefs in the Christian doctrine. Its believed by scholars the original writers of the new testament were Greek speaking Christians which seems to explain why there is that similarity
@@ia2625 because Perennialists believe that all historical traditions are valid interpretations of a single truth/source. Christians believe that Christ is Truth Himself and that His teaching is the only valid one. My idea in the og post was that Plato was getting at a Christian/universal truth even if he didn’t know it.
Nietzsche was the author that really got me into philosophy. It was so fascinating trying to piece out exactly what he was saying I was compelled to go back and read about those who he often criticized like Plato, Kant, Buddhism, the English Utilitarians.
I am really grateful for these readings. Having the words to read makes them wonderfully digestible. And they are very nicely read. For free. What could be better?
I'm glad you are benefiting from the readings. I agree, text and audio is the best way to digest the information. The only better way would be a matrix type upload of the dialogue. Which I can't help with. Thanks for the comment! 🙏
Even now after my fourth rereading I cannot help but cry at the ending scene. I believe Socrates’ final words are a deliberately delayed reply to Crito’s question a few pages back on if there was anything that he could take care of for him. I feel this individually unserious and confusing remark when put in context was chosen by Socrates as a sort of comical and blissful farewell to his lifelong friend Crtio and to his other interlocutors, as to quell any last remaining doubts if he, Socrates, is truly at ease and in fact even excited to die and go be with the gods. It at the same time cheekily makes an answer to Critos question, while also making the obvious point that he is cured from this sickness which is life by offering a tribute (rooster) to the healing god Asclepius. Maybe this is a cheesy and romanticized interpretation but I don’t care, I think it makes sense and is a very poetic ending to the end of a great dialogue and to the life of a great man.
Thanks for recording these! I’m working through reading all of Plato, and these are great to keep moving forward when I’m out on a run! Hard to run with a book in your face. :-)
That's great, and your welcome! I can't imagine anything more beneficial than going for a run while listening to Plato. Has to be the best multi-tasking activity ever. Good luck with your studies! 🙏
You are welcome! I agree, engaging both the sense of sight and hearing helps get the information deeper into the mind. Happy to hear you enjoyed it. Be sure to check out the other Platonic works in the playlist. 🙏
Thank you so so much for these!! I watched a few of your Platonic dialogues and I feel like I'm going to ace my Philosophy exam now. Very well done and easy to follow
@@lewiskirk8289 no problem! I just feel it's important for anyone not reading along to catch that essential point! I can't believe you responded so fast lol
@@lewiskirk8289 I left my parents home when I was 17 because I was eager to read Plato's while they expected me to focus on textbooks. It feels great to reread them again now.
You are very welcome. Be sure to check out the rest of the Platonic dialogues in the playlist, and the other books on the channel. Thanks for the comment. 🙏
This is good, the one thing I’d recommend is more fluctuation in your voice and trying slightly different voices between the characters. Thanks for this :)
Time stamps for the three arguments for the immortality of the soul:
1. The Cyclical Argument: 34:58-42:05
2. The Recollection Argument: 42:06-54:48
3. The Affinity Argument: 57:47-1:15:01
Thanks! 👍
I appreciate your time into creating this audio! This has helped me so much in school. THANK YOU!!
You're welcome. It makes me happy to know that it has helped you with your studies!
1:17:47-1:21:10-The objection of Simmias “The Attunement Argument”
1:21:40-The objection of Cebes
1:34:30- Socrates’ refutation of Simmias’ “Attunement Argument”
1:44:40-Socrates’ Refutation of Cebes’ objection
I genuinely appreciate you having these videos, I struggle a lot with looking at or reading a screen for long periods of time but being able to listen to it makes my life so much easier and I can’t say home much this helps me
Really happy to hear that it has helped you. I believe that this is the best way to take in a dialogue, with the text and audio together. Be sure to check out the other Platonic Dialogues. 🙏
Lewis Kirk Absolutely! I’ve been working my way through the dialogues for my Philosophy 210 class and I can’t say enough how much each of these have helped me
This was posted 4 years ago but thank you so much for taking the time to record and post these!
You're very welcome! 🙏
Thanks so much, this recording is a god send! Its also nice that the recording is the exact same translation as in the complete works of plato so i can read along.
You are welcome Oscar. Be sure to check out the other dialogues on my channel if your interested. And please subscribe and share the word. 🙏
Will do! Im a philosophy and literature double major in college and I'm sure these dialouges will help my friends at school out
That's awesome. I plan to continue producing the rest of the dialogues in the complete works of Plato in the new year.
Forgot to say, there is a link in the description to the PDF version of Plato's complete works for anyone who may not have it.
@@lewiskirk8289 oh wow that's really nice i will let them know. Thanks again!
As an ESL student, this audio has helped me a lot to learn how to pronounce unfamiliar and old English words. Thank you :)
Hi Kasandra. You are very welcome! I’m glad it helped you with your English studies and your Platonic comprehension. 😀🙏
I love that all comments start with gratitude and appreciation. Me too, Thank you for this!
Hearing this with an Orthodox Christian perspective is really interesting! “The foreigners are many as well” and he says to seek someone who can charm away the fear of death among them. He also speaks of the mystics who teach that life is a preparation for death, which is what our own Orthodox monks teach. Plato also says that joy in the afterlife will be a result of seeking Wisdom, which for us is the person of Christ who fulfills the proverbs about Wisdom being contrasted with the seductress of worldly pleasures that leads to hell.
I don’t interpret this in any perennialist,
way but I think Plato had glimpses of what was really true
Edit: Plato/Socrates
its more interesting to see the similarity's in what plato wrote and what would later be beliefs in the Christian doctrine. Its believed by scholars the original writers of the new testament were Greek speaking Christians which seems to explain why there is that similarity
curious to know why you dont think thats perrenialism
@@ia2625 because Perennialists believe that all historical traditions are valid interpretations of a single truth/source. Christians believe that Christ is Truth Himself and that His teaching is the only valid one. My idea in the og post was that Plato was getting at a Christian/universal truth even if he didn’t know it.
motion4000, you hit the nail on the proverbial head. You are very smart thank you🧠👍👍
Thanks so much for this! Really helped my last minute philosophy homework :D
Happy to help Zach! Glad you could get your homework done 📚 👍🏼
"Let us beware of saying that death is the opposite of life. The living being is only a species of the dead, and a very rare species" - Nietzsche
Nietzsche was the author that really got me into philosophy. It was so fascinating trying to piece out exactly what he was saying I was compelled to go back and read about those who he often criticized like Plato, Kant, Buddhism, the English Utilitarians.
I am really grateful for these readings. Having the words to read makes them wonderfully digestible. And they are very nicely read. For free. What could be better?
I'm glad you are benefiting from the readings. I agree, text and audio is the best way to digest the information. The only better way would be a matrix type upload of the dialogue. Which I can't help with. Thanks for the comment! 🙏
These recordings are causing me to really appreciate Socrates!
Thank you for making these text accessible. I greatly appreciate your dedication and time you have put into these!
Glad you like them and find them valuable. It’s my pleasure 🙏
Even now after my fourth rereading I cannot help but cry at the ending scene. I believe Socrates’ final words are a deliberately delayed reply to Crito’s question a few pages back on if there was anything that he could take care of for him. I feel this individually unserious and confusing remark when put in context was chosen by Socrates as a sort of comical and blissful farewell to his lifelong friend Crtio and to his other interlocutors, as to quell any last remaining doubts if he, Socrates, is truly at ease and in fact even excited to die and go be with the gods. It at the same time cheekily makes an answer to Critos question, while also making the obvious point that he is cured from this sickness which is life by offering a tribute (rooster) to the healing god Asclepius. Maybe this is a cheesy and romanticized interpretation but I don’t care, I think it makes sense and is a very poetic ending to the end of a great dialogue and to the life of a great man.
Thanks for sharing! It’s a profound ending and show what a great man and Philosopher Socrates was 🙏
Thanks for this great reading; it's one huge treasure in a pitiful world.
You are welcome. Yes, Plato is a light in the darkness. 🙏❤️
Thank you so much. ❤❤❤. You really saved a life by these videos. This is my third and I intend to finish all of them. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
You're very welcome! Enjoy 🙏
Thanks for recording these! I’m working through reading all of Plato, and these are great to keep moving forward when I’m out on a run! Hard to run with a book in your face. :-)
That's great, and your welcome! I can't imagine anything more beneficial than going for a run while listening to Plato. Has to be the best multi-tasking activity ever. Good luck with your studies! 🙏
thank you! this has helped me so much. there's just something about hearing it aloud while reading along that makes it much easier to understand.
You are welcome! I agree, engaging both the sense of sight and hearing helps get the information deeper into the mind. Happy to hear you enjoyed it. Be sure to check out the other Platonic works in the playlist. 🙏
Thank you so so much for these!! I watched a few of your Platonic dialogues and I feel like I'm going to ace my Philosophy exam now. Very well done and easy to follow
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed them and that they helped you to learn the material. Good luck in your Philosophy exam! 👍
@@lewiskirk8289 They’re amazing and thanks a lot!!!
Literally using this to cram for a quiz. Thank you so much
Good luck. You’re welcome. 👍
Thankful to have this resource available.
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Truly greatful for this! You're the best!
You are very welcome 🙏
Love your voice thanks for the audio Lewis !
Happy to hear that 😃 thanks for letting me know Eriniis. Be sure to subscribe and check out the other Platonic dialogues on the channel. 🙏
Bookmark 1:31:45 page 78
Accidentally said "the SOUL is most like that which is human, mortal, multiform[...]" at 1:03:46
(Obviously it should read "body")
My apologies 🙏
@@lewiskirk8289 no problem! I just feel it's important for anyone not reading along to catch that essential point! I can't believe you responded so fast lol
I cant even tell how much i thank you for this
You're welcome. Anyone who enjoys Plato is a friend of mine. 🙏
Thanx alot, Lewis.
such a feast!
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it 🙏❤️
@@lewiskirk8289 I left my parents home when I was 17 because I was eager to read Plato's while they expected me to focus on textbooks. It feels great to reread them again now.
So helpful for my studies! Thank you!
You are very welcome. Be sure to check out the rest of the Platonic dialogues in the playlist, and the other books on the channel. Thanks for the comment. 🙏
Thank you for your effort!
You are welcome. There is a playlist with several other dialogues if you haven't seen it. I am currently in the process of producing the Theaetetus.
Farewell, Socrates
What a great man! 🙏
Why farewell if his soul is still here today and we are listening to his words?
This is good, the one thing I’d recommend is more fluctuation in your voice and trying slightly different voices between the characters.
Thanks for this :)
1:45:13 Bookmark 🔖
1:48:56 bookmark
Just finished this one too, do you know if any such videos of Cicero exist?
Not on my channel, no. And not in this AudioEbook form. I may get round to other philosophers later.
Thank you! Great audio
You're welcome!
you, sir, are a godsend
🙂🙏
Bless you for this!
You are welcome! 👍
1:03:45 the words are "whereas the body is most like " and the audio says soul instead of body.
❤❤thanks Lewis ❤❤
You are most welcome 🙏
1:03:46 Reading error
This one will need to be relistened to and reread until I better understand it 😂
You and me both! All of the dialogues have a greater depth with each reading. Especially the Phaedo. 🙏
@@lewiskirk8289Certainly, thank you for posting this audio combined with the writings itself, it’s very useful!
thank you lewis!
You are welcome! 🙏
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Thank you so much!!!
Hi. You are most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it. 🙏 Be sure to check out the other Platonic Dialogues on the channel. 🙂
18:59 spot on
Thank you very much
You're welcome! 🙏
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Thank you
You are very welcome! I always appreciate someone who appreciates Plato. 🙏
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Thankyou
You’re welcome 😊
thankyou .x
You’re welcome 😊 🙏
Raymond moody brought me here
Am i incorrect in believing it is pronounced more like fade-oh?
I think you are probably right.
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Of course it is, that's why it's important
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Thank you so much
You're most welcome. My pleasure 🙏
Thank you so much!!
You are welcome! 🙏
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You are welcome 🙏
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