How to Setup the Canon R5 and R6 for Video - Don't mess this up!
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Clog LUTs Updated for Clog 3 - geni.us/ClogLUTs -for Canon R5 and R6
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The Canon R5 is a great camera. Despite the overheating issues I know plenty of pros using it daily. I've put it through lots of tests, so here are several important video settings that I think will help you out.
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Remember that Clog 3 base ISO is 800, not 400 like regular Clog. I've noticed a bit more noise in the shadows for Clog 3, but I do like that it you can shoot in Cinema Gamut which more closely matches the Canon Cinema line.
Hey Matt! Any updates for the ClogLUTs? I'm having a hard time loading this page linked in the comment/description. Thank you!
@@TheOliveBungalow Hey, sorry for the trouble. Where are you located? We've been having some issues with certain areas
@@thefilmpoets No worries at all - I just checked again it loaded fast! We're in southern California. Stoked to use these!
Nice well working LUTs just tryed in Premiere 👍
Thank you for sending the clog 3 luts out. Can you do me a favor and make them to up to -3.00 stops in 1/3 increments instead of -2.00? I shot some footage this weekend and exposed to the right and did not clip but I believe I was closer to 3 stops over so I need to counteract that with -3.00 for clog3 cinemagamut to rec709 10bit
Had't seen the peripheral illumination correction setting before, thanks for that tip! One thing for those running into overheating issues in HQ even with the new firmware: if you shoot in normal quality 4K but with crop mode enabled it's actually upsampling 5.1K down to 4K and looks nearly identical to the HQ. The advantage is there's no overheating issue in this mode. This does change your crop factor though, so if you need to shoot ultrawide (say 15mm full frame) then switch back to HQ in those instances to get your wider shots.
You're the man! This is exactly the information I've been looking for for the R6. Thank you!
As usual - fantastic, educational - and priceless!
Thank you so much for sharing this info! I plan on upgrading to the R6 within the next few weeks so I’m hoping some of this will apply to that body. Either way, I feel like I understand the need to adjust certain settings better than I did before 🙌🏼
Thanks so much! I purchased your LUTs.
Shot a couple weddings in CLog3 and had no idea what I was doing. Didn't know about the native ISO 800 thing. Will do better next time!
Zebras tip for skin exposure is a game changer! Never thought of doing that! Thanks Matt!
You have so much knowledge.
Great videos. Very helpful!
Great video! I appreciated the tips!
Thanks ! This is very helpful .
Thanks for the share!
Thanks dude!
After watching this video over a year ago, I always wondered why you said to set the zeros at 45 IRE for skin tones, when good exposure for lighter skin tones is between 60 and 70 IRE. After about a year of shooting in CLog3, and always accidentally overexposing, Even though I had my zebra settings to appear at 65 IRE, I found thatmy footage would always come out over exposed, and I couldn't wrap my head around it until I did a bunch of testing and compared it to the histogram. FINALLY I found that exposing skin tones at "proper exposure" according to the zebras in camera is actually overexposing. I finally landed on 45 IRE, and bam your video makes sense now!
Yea good zebras should measure before any display LUTs are applied. Glad you’re all set
Your new cut + beard is looking good Matt!
Thanks TJ. My son cut it for me. He's 5.
Hey Matt, thanks for another incredibly helpful video! I've been shooting stills almost exclusively since I picked up the R5. I can't wait to get out and make some more video content. As-usual, your content is right on. I hadn't considered lens whacking yet, but that looks really amazing... also, I appreciate your LUT pack is focused on correction and not a "look"-your Mavic distortion correction and DLOG luts are essential, and I'm sure these will be great too. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
Thanks
Nice video...
Wow. You literally hit every important question i had for my new R6. I’m pretty sure your voice lowered my blood pressure a bit as well. Subscribed. Thanks.
Thanks Ted. Enjoy that R6, it's technically better image quality than the R5 because every mode is oversampled.
I use a teleprompter in front of the camera. Do you think the teleprompter could be reducing image quality or sharpening of the camera?
when are u releasing the colorgrading masterclass?
Great Video. Thoughts on the R6 as a more budget friendly option? Wavering between Sony and the Canon R6.
R6 is a beauty bro
Just dropping a comment for anyone using 3rd party lenses like Sigma/Tamron, DON'T use the Lens Correction options like Peripheral Illumination Correction, Chromatic Aberration Correction or Distortion Correction. Turning those features on with 3rd party glass is known to cause communication errors with these lenses and can even hurt AF performance. I personally keep them all "Off" and adjust them in post when colour correcting, if needed. Everything else noted here is a nice tip and for those of you who can't be bothered with C-Log, the classic Prolost Picture Profile setting is still tried and true, even on the latest Canon cameras. Combined with Highlight Tone Priority, Prolost will consistently produce nice, semi-flat easy to grade, neutral images straight out of camera so long as you nail your exposure.
Nice tips on the third party lenses. Illumination correction is supposed to only work with Canon glass. Also, for picture profiles, I always love Marvels Cine. It's essentially prolost with an extra bump in the shadows. Thats the profile we used for the last 9 years with every 8 bit Canon body. -Matt
When recording to 8K RAW, does the R5 still get image stabilization? If so which ones? Lens IS? Sensor IS? Digital IS?
what about Clog3 and color space? still using bt_709? also when you have zebras at 35% you want them to be on the face like the are triggered or just before they get triggered if that makes any sense?
I'd love to see how you shoot with the C70 :)
I want to make a full video for the c70. Been using it all year!
When adding these luts in premiere. What would you suggest is the best workflow? Add these as technical or creative luts in lumetri pro?
Technical lut section. Also called basic input lut. You should be able o select all the clips and do it at once if you like
What happens when recording ProRes Raw on a R5 or R5 C? ProRes Raw is Clog2 with cinema gammut. So it will have the same color issues because it's cinema gammut color space in prores raw? Thank you.
Thank you for your video.
Where do I get the LUT bt709_Clog_bt709_WideDR?
you can get the original, single lut from Canon's r5 page on their website, under downloads. You can get the entire set at www.thefilmpoets.com/edu/store/canon-r5-clog-exposure-luts/
Hey Matt! Such a helpful Vid! Is the Native ISO for the R6 400 as well? Also, I have an EOS R but can't find anywhere (google or YT) the Native ISO for the R. If you know that, could you share? Thanks so much!
Yes all Clog 1 profiles are ISO 400 in the R series cameras. Clog3 is iso 800.
@@thefilmpoets If not shooting in C log profiles would the native ISO change?
@@ScottFilmCompany Yea you can shoot at any ISO if shooting normal profiles. Going below native on clog will cut off some highlights and lose dynamic range.
From a video standpt. I wish I could be sold on the r5 but I just cant!.
Great vid, Matt. How to the Zebra settings change for CLog 3?
zebras are the same for clog 3, though they'd change if clog 2 were ever implemented.
@@thefilmpoets Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.
i love your pullover hoodie! what brand is it (shameless question, sorry lol)
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Nice video! I don’t think the 4K hq mode is available for the R6 is it?
Everything is HQ in the R6 - Non HQ on the r5 is a pixel binned mode, Hq is oversampled. on the R6, everything is oversampled included 60fps 4k.
@@thefilmpoets cool thanks for that!
Hello ! Thank you very much for this great video ! I have an R6 and I'm going to get into the video. If I’m using c-log 3 then I will have to install a variable nd filter. So, how many stops do you recommend for shooting in broad daylight, with average brightness (Norway in February) ? 2-5 or 6-9 stops? Thanks for your help ! Best regards ! Vanessa
Don't worry about the amount of ND used, just be at the lowest ISO possible - minimum (800) for Clog 3, choose your aperture, then add the ND until you're properly exposed.
@@thefilmpoets Thank you !
6-9 stops if you're shooting f2.8-4
@@benjamin.kelley Hello, thanks ! I finally did it without any ND filter !!!!!! ruclips.net/video/3eVYNSL45JE/видео.html
Nice tips! Sony stole me tho--but hey when's the next wedding film for public release?
Thank Larry. They're all so good nowadays. A7sIII colors have improved a lot.
We actually have a lot of great weddings that haven't been shared. I've been waiting for a good time to roll them out.
@@thefilmpoets I think everyone here agrees with me, that now is a great time to roll them out haha. Let's see some R5/6 goodness!
what is the maximum iso you use for R6?
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Hey brother, which sharpness setting do you use in clog 3?
All the way down, which is the default I believe. I stay away from any in-camera sharpening.
@@thefilmpoets thanks. I use a teleprompter in front of the camera. Do you think the teleprompter could be reducing image quality or sharpening of the camera?
hey Matt do you use your Sierra luts with the R5?
Yea, so you apply the Clog Lut first, then blend in Sierra LUT until you're happy. I like it at about 60%. - www.thefilmpoets.com/edu/store/sierra-lut/
are the conversion lut usable for r6? it says it is for CANON EOS C70 & C300 III.
these work with the R6 - geni.us/ClogLUTs
what about zebras on skintone on standard profile and not on LOG? is it higher ? like 70%? thanks anyway nice video :)
Did you find an answer to this, I'm trying to figure out the low rating he suggests for skin. Is it because of Log?
@@elcasanelles5806 no never got an answer 😅
@@sardanapalos from what I could gather from other sources, 65-70% wold be right for skin on a standard profile.
Hey man, downloaded the r5 CLOG 3 lots. Not sure why but the skin tones seem super red every time I apply it
hey, sounds like you're using the wrong gamut or the footage is shot in clog and using there clog3 lut. everything has to match the settings used to shoot the footage
I just recently updated my R5 to the new firmware with clog3. I bought your lut pack earlier. Will it still work for clog3 or do I need a new one?
I'm updating the lut pack to include C-log 3 and will send out a free update soon.
@@thefilmpoets that's good stuff. Do you think in the meantime I should continue shooting in clog at 400 iso instead of clog3 800 iso until you finish it or will the current lut package get me close enough?
@@JapaneseMonster I don't think clog 3 is a big gain at all, I'd stick with clog 1 for a bit. Theres a bit more shadow noise with clog 3 and very little DR gain, at least on the R5. I think it's because the regular Clog was already so good
@@thefilmpoets People are saying that but clog3 offers 1 stop better highlight retention when you expose it correctly (don't overexpose) with ISO 800. It also doesn't clip blacks as aggressively as clog1 and you can also us cinemagamut in clog3 mode. I would recommend using clog3 as it is a good match for the R5's 12-bit 8K readout.
4k HQ is it better on my macbook pro IPB or All I?
All I is better for playback but it's much larger than IPB. Personally I shoot IPB for large projects and make proxies for editing.
Congrats on an excellent useful video. I have a question that you or someone else might be able to answer. The 45% settings for skin tones seems a lot lower than the 60-70% range recommended, that I have been able to find, by other sources. Best thing will be to test myself and find my number, but any clues as to why such discrepancy?
I believe It's reading the IRE from the LOG image, which is lower and will be moved up to about 65% with the LUT in post.
Hi,
Will your canon r5 lut pack work on Lumafusion ?
Yes LUTs work well with Luma Fusion. See this video - ruclips.net/video/ul5wRv1p3s4/видео.html
and order at geni.us/ClogLUTs
@@thefilmpoets thanks a lot.. are these updated for the latest 1.0.3 firmware for the Canon R5 .. also I am from India .. so I hope buying this is not region specific ? Also how will I get them if I purchase .. there is no LogIn section on your store
@@agarwalamit662 Hey, yep they work with the new clog 3 update as well. You get a download link. super easy.
@@thefilmpoets thanks 😃
Hello, sorry for my ignorance: why setup 400 ISO to recording?
Thats the base ISO for Clog 1. It means that to get the most dynamic range out of that profile, you need to be there or above. For Clog 3, lock it at iso 800 or above.
Why choose BT709 over BT2020?
Right now there are very few SDR BT2020 workflows that make sense. Also almost no rec 2020 external monitors are affordable for R5 shooters.
But if you're ready for a rec2020 workflow go for it, you just have to keep all cameras at rec2020 and timelines. Also the end user is likely to still see only rec709 because of the lack of rec 2020 support in displays.
So you're spreading 10bit color across a wider gamut and then that gamut will get clipped right before anyone sees it. I'd rather stuff all 10bits into the color space that will be seen to the end user. Remember you cant stuff color's outside of the color gamut into a smaller gamut.
But I do think it's a great feature for the future and want to test it more. -Matt
@@thefilmpoets thank you for the explanation! I'm using the R6 and was always confused by that option.
Where is the setting to turn off the overheating? 😂
Yea for real. There is a simple trick if you run into problems - just swap the date and pull the battery. It resets it. But honestly I've only run into problems when shooting tons of 4k 120p. That really cranks up the heat.
@@thefilmpoets So you aren't seeing the countdown timer when shooting longer sessions or ceremony/speeches in HQ?
@@screammachineman So I'm using this as an A cam that is 1 of 4 cameras. I have an Eos-R with a speed booster in 4k for ceremony coverage. The R5 is the gimbal cam / reactions at a ceremony. For speeches and such I shoot in FOV mode, which doesn't overheat.
Simple method is:
Creative work - HQ mode
Documentary coverage - FOV mode
Not ideal but overall image quality is still better than the 1dxII
@@thefilmpoets Just snagged an eos-R after seeing this comment, looking forward to integrating that into our setup! Assuming then that Clog 1 from the eos-R plays nicely with the Clog3 from the R6? Any tips on bringing the image from those cameras as close as possible?
@@briansikich They won't match exactly without some play, but both will be in the ballpark. Id just push colors a tad on the eos-r until they match. I had to remove a touch of green from the r5 to have it match my c70 and now its really
what the fuck is that background seperation
so nothing regarding the r6 lol
Just use the exact same settings.